Is he right? Should you not use a DE and do everything on the terminal?
>>83826055do you guys all not have jobs
>>83826062Yes I do. I derail threads with blacked porn. I'm a very proud American.
>>83826055Use whatever the fuck you want, don't let a bald schizo tell you what to do! :)
Why not both?There are things you can do on the terminal and other things that's better to do on a GUI. Just do what's better for you.
>>83826079But he said it's better for productivity and recently I've found a way to watch anime on the terminalhttps://youtu.be/4kVJA1CEXp8
>>83826055No, he's an idiot. He doesn't even know what a "terminal" even is.
>>83826101Can you name things that are quicker to do on the GUI?
>>83826111GNOME's built-in file search already does that much better and with 0 configuration needed.
>>83826128Posting on 4chan.
>>83826159scrolling threw an assortment of images, browsing the internet.
>>83826144But I don't want to Download anything, you can just type the name of the anime, select the episode and it will stream from the website to you video player, much easier and faster than either browsing or downloading
having a DE like KDE + a tiling WM is peak comfy
>>83826128Blender, Krita, GIMP, a DAW, anything artistic basically.
No, it's a meme. They both have their use cases. Installing packages? Terminal. Editing videos? Gui.
>>83826055Just use pop OS
>>83826055You shouldn’t even use a display manager. Richard Stallman doesn’t use one unless strictly necessary. But the clown OP posted doesn’t even know how to use Emacs.
>>83826055imagine taking tech/IT advice from a langfag
>>83826192this assumes you already have the files downloaded.also if you're downloading anime even dubbed anime the file names are going to be in Japanese language in latin script literally no one remembers what the names are let alone able to spell it correctly. sure it works for things like naruto but anything else you're not going to be able to just type what you need
>>83826111It's better for productivity if all you use is a terminal emulator lelelelel, otherwise you're genuinely making your live harder just because.
>>83826128Maybe not quicker but more practical.You prefer using Gimp or ImageMagick?
>>83826224>You shouldn’t even use a display manager. Richard Stallman doesn’t use one unless strictly necessary. That's because he grew up in the 70s and 80s and is nostalgic for that era. There is no advantage to terminal-by-default for anybody.
>>83826213You can edit on ffmpeg
>>83826128photo editingvideo editing.3D modeling video games.also web browsers are GUI
>>83826256you can make minor adjustments on ffmpeg but even then its a shit way to edit video
>>83826269You can use links, but lynx or browsh. But on the modern web isn't practical
>>83826309But the post asked: Can you name things that are quicker to do on the GUI?not: name things that have no alternative other then GUIlynx and terminal based web browsers are horrible for browsing the internet. they might be "faster" but how much does that matter if you are seeing a botched page or not even loading the whole thing
>>83826229Just watch the video, the script he's using scraps from some anime streaming website, you don't need to download anything and it's faster
>>83826342>lynx and terminal based web browsersThese aren't CLIs.
why would anyone listen to Smith on productivity? He's never had a job and he has never produced anything
>>83826269>photo editingImagewizard>video editing.Ffmpeg>3D modelingYou don't really need to do it>video games.You need to be 18 to post here>also web browsers are GUIThere are terminal based browsers
>>83826250>That's because he grew up in the 70s and 80s and is nostalgic for that era.not really. it's just that if you're an emacs poweruser, you don't need to leave the program too often.
>>83826224Emacs itself benefits from being run in a real graphical environment. You have everything the ncurses frontend provides, plus many more features including, but not limited to:>proportional/variable width fonts>images/documents>better mouse support (you can turn the menubar into a context menu, saving more space)>multiple visible frames>more colorsStallman, like everyone else, is free to do whatever the fuck he wants on his machines. That doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.
>>83826345look at the options>next video>previous video>exitthe moment you need to go back/foward a minute you're fucked
>>83826359He produces many things, just browse his site
>>83826055>Is he right?No Emacs>DE/Terminal
>>83826401>>next video>>previous video>>exitLet me guess... you "need" more?
>>83826390>Imagewizardnot able to do what photo shop can>Ffmpegyou can make minor adjustments on ffmpeg but even then its a shit way to edit video>You don't really need to do itthis is a cope.>You need to be 18 to post hereanother cope lmao>There are terminal based browsersBut the post asked: Can you name things that are quicker to do on the GUI?not: name things that have no alternative other then GUI
>>83826432>X fails while I'm watching anime.>need to go to 14 minutes into the video>Let me guess... you "need" more?is this the power of the CLI?
>>83826358Nobody is discussing CLIs alone.The "terminal" encompasses CLIs and TUIs, which lynx and others are.>>83826309Links and Lynx are great mostly for looking at the arch install wiki when you forgot something and don't have X installed yet.I haven't used browsh yet but I have little hope for any TUI browser.
>>83826401It plays on mpv, just use your keybindins for that
>>83826128grand theft auto san andreas save loader
>>83826523At that point moving the mouse to the location on the timeline is faster then skipping ahead
If someone is obsessed with TUIs then they're usually a larper. Using some for specific tasks is mature
>>83826111>Indian accent no sorry I don't care what he has to say he is wrong and I will now do the opposite
>>83826256And this is where we get into meme territory. Not a single sane video editor would ever edit a video without even being able to even see what they're doing. Grow up. Get a job.
>>83826652>Not a single sane video editor would ever edit a video without even being able to even see what they're doing. Grow up. Get a job.Seems like a skill problem
>>83826907Tell me about what kind of video editing you do.
>>83826055Luke spic is a dumb lazy Mexican who shouldn't be trusted
>>83826055Why would you memorize countless unintuitive program specific commands and flags? The only reason I can possibly see is being LE 3P1C H4XX0R
>>83826948I edit videos for YouTube
>>83827061Because it's faster and improves productivity
>>83826055tried i3.stayed with kde.
>>83826055the longer luke smiths facial hair gets, the more gays you know he has gobbled off in shopping mall toilet cubicles
>>83828203he's gotta earn that greencard somehow, I guess his YouTube grift went down the drain.
>>83828362Any proof that he's a spic?
>>83828511no, he's a kike
>>83826062My job *is* working in the terminal
>>83827260What do you produce?
>>83828713Posts on /g/
>>83826055 (OP)>>83826062I write software at a FAANG company. I do all my work in neovim, tmux, and command line utilities. lf for a file manager. I watch our build system with newsboat and some utilities I wrote myself. Neomutt for email. We have an IRC bridge for slack. All our build/deploy/code review automation is cli.At home I do creative work and use GIMP, Blender, OBS, and Inkscape.Sometimes I use ffmpeg for video editing, but only for repetitive tasks that I've already scripted. I'm not in the terminal farting around with ffmpeg for one off tasks.There is work you can do in the terminal only, but the question is why do you care? My priority is minimizing mouse use and automating workflows. I could give a shit where it actually runs.
terminal is good for many things, but for others it's pointless. I disagree with his aversion to emacs as I think having everything in one place is a cool idea though.
imho tiling only works well on terminal applications, and tmux does all the tiling I need to manage said applications, not to mention tmux is a godsend if you ever work on remote servers. for regular desktop use I use a DE like a normal person, my desktop runs KDE well, I used to run XFCE on my laptop but eventually found out you can take 3 minutes to set up Openbox to do everything XFCE does but better and with fewer resources.
>>83826055this guy is such a loserhe couldnt even finish his meme liberal arts PhD program from a shitty state school and now is anti-science
>>83829557Spot the söyentist, read against the method
>>83829476Tiling wms can do floating just as well, you're just lazy.
>>83830265GUI in general is just for people who are lazy
>>83826055No, I watched one of his videos on how he uses his computer. Everything he does is painfully slow, this guy is full on retarded.
>83828362>Speaks Spanish>Is Catholic>Doesn't work>Lives in Florida>Functionally retardedSounds like a spic to me
>>83830952Post your workflow, let's see how fast you are
>>83831020So... No actual proof?
>>83826589Pretty much this.Simple tasks like basic text editing? I use VIMComplex shit like R and gene alignment, where visuals matter and I need to see lots of shit? I'll use a GUI program like RStudio or MEGA
>>83831657faster then u, buddy
>>83826907no its a software problemffmpeg doesn't edit it makes minor adjustments
>>83831020He's not catholic though he's a baptist
>>83826062Does your job seriously dictate what text editor you can use?
>>83831020He lives in Georgia IIRC
>>83826062I use Emacs for my job unironically. I started using it at first as a joke but now I can't live without it
>>83826055Only if you are trying to go as minimal as possible or fucking hate widget/mouse-oriented GUIs for whatever reason.If you want to use a particular standalone window manager, may as well do it on top of LXQt instead of stringing together a bunch of apps, scripts, and configs just to do what it already solves.
>>83832838The (((Guardian))) wrote an article on him and claimed to have found public records proving his house is in Florida.
>>83826055It's now seven years or so since I switched to Linux. There are very few tasks I do with any frequency now where using a GUI is faster than a terminal.Once you start learning how to decompose tasks to solve them in a terminal / shell, your productivity will increase multiplicatively.
>>83832738Why does he talk about catholicism all the time then (in a positive manner), he even made a compilation of papal encyclicals against modernism
>>83826585Goal post moved again
>>83829181>FAANG>not FAGMANYou gotta go back
>>83829181do others think your weird for using neomutt, tmux ect ect?
i use i3 for years, now i cringe at the thought of a wm instead of using KDE plasma
>>83833243idk ask him he has livestreams where you can
>>83826101most based post ITT. Some tools are better in CLI but not all.>>83826390FFMPEG is good for converting shit to another format or cutting part of a video, if you want to EDIT it's more practical to use GUI programs
>>83826401>right&left arrow keys>shift modifier if I want to be precisewow holy shit that was so hard. Also there's a video bar by default in mpv so even if you hate keybindings you still have options.
>>83833541At that point moving the mouse to the location on the timeline is faster then skipping ahead
>>83826055>Terminal>DEonly advanced terminal included into far2l
>>83826055Ctrl+Alt+F1, or just open your desktop's terminal or some shit
>>83833341No one knows what I use because I don't talk about it. I just do my work.I think tmux is pretty common in linux and OSX shops. We have a few dozen vim users that I'm aware of and a handful of spacemacs users.There's zero evangelism for any kind of tool, editor or whatever. People just submit their change requests and no one cares what happens before that.Ops guys larping as devs are the only ones I've seen talk about their tool preferences at work. The announce they use vim at every opportunity."Ackshully you can do that with a simple vim macro I have in my dotfiles repo!"
>>83828629same, and I like my job
>>83827061I put in a little effort upfront to learn good tools to make the rest of my career easier and more effortless. Now I spend seconds doing things that take my coworkers minutes
>>83834660This.Learning vim and more recently emacs has probably saved me hundreds of hours every year.
>>83833356Yes, it takes time to setup upfront, but once you have crafted a system for yourself, it is portable to any hardware and boosts your productivity exponentially
>>83826055No. Wolfgang is right.
>>83835080What color are your nails today?
>>83835155Same as my terminal color scheme.
>>83835361Using pywal I see
>>83826055this guy is the literal definition of Dunning-Kruger, nothing he does or claims to do is in any way useful except to make him try and seem smart to his 105IQ audience
>>83835698Why is he so beloved here then?
>>83835730this board is the primary example of the dunning-kruger effect
>>83835749What are you doing here then
>>83826390Just because you can do it in a terminal doesn't mean it's effective. GUIs are faster for video editing, music production, artistry.
>>83834420>>83829181Im seriously interested to know WHICH letter of FAGMAN do you belong oni want to work thereplspls
>>83834420This is very true and the exact same thin I noticed in multiple companies.People who actually get shit done just do the work with whatever tools they want and don't care about the rest. Different people may have different preferences, yes, but nobody, and I want to stress, NOBODY is going to give a shit as long as you get the job done.Only LARPers (and worse of all """industry""" LARPers) insist that you have to use some specific IDE/whatever otherwise you're an idiot. They don't actually program (let alone do anything), they just virtue signal on the tools themselves without getting any real work done.
>>83837646My company actually advertises in the new job postings that you are free to use any OS, tools and IDE as a developer.
>>83826055Luke Smith is a larping retard
>>83838001That's a surprisingly smart move considering that many people would be unironically willing to change jobs just for that.