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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR
Convenient lister: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
State budget and region

>NEWS
Intel 12th Gen Alder Lake available November. Ryzen 5000 3D Cache refresh Q1 2022. Intel Arc GPU line launching Q2 2022.

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: Athlon 3000G, Pentium G6400/G6405
Budget Gaming: i3 10100/F, i3 10105/F
Mid-range Gaming: i5 10400/F
High-end Gaming: R5 5600X
Mid-range Multicore: R5 5600X, i7 10700/F
High-end Multicore: R9 5900X, R9 5950X

>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVEL
Budget 1080p: Used GTX 1060 3GB, RX 470/570 4GB
1080p: RTX 3060, RX 6600 XT
1440p: RTX 3060 Ti, RX 6700 XT
2160p: RTX 3080, RX 6800 XT

>RECOMMENDED RAM
Capacity: 2x8GB or 2x16GB
Speed and CAS Latency: 3200/3600MHz CL16
Beware: Some Intel motherboards (e.g. B460) are limited to lower speeds

>RECOMMENDED COOLERS
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
Basic Web Browsing: 400-450W
Gaming: 500-850W depending on GPU (aim for 50-75% at load)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
Value standouts: WD SN550, ADATA S50 Lite
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARD INFO:
AM4 B550/X570 - CPU-less BIOS flash feature advisable if pairing with Zen 3
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=RzdbjX

FAQ;
When will GPU prices normalize?
idk cheers mate

Previous: >>83805270
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First for POOZEN
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I spent weeks researching watercooling in depth, all the best manufacturers, tubing choices, fan controllers, specific cases, fittings, loop planning, different pumps...
I'm just going to get a new case and go full air cooling and even ditch my current AIO. Fuck liquid. Fuck radiators. Metal will never betray you, don't let the water jew tempt you like it tempted me.
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>>83816182
t. templet
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What's a good storage drive? Been a while since I replaced mine and want something that will last a while again.
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>>83816123
Honestly I would love that GPU for my Velka 3. Too bad those sized GPUs are akin to unicorns though.
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>>83816182
Based.
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>>83816194
Consumer HDDs are in a race to the bottom. If you want your data to be secure you need to use redundancy. Alternatively, if you just want a pack mule for films, television, and Gurren Lagann fanfiction, then the Barracuda 2TB is usually a good choice.
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the new RX 6600 is the most efficient cryptomining card released yet.
> Currently, we found leaks stating that RX 6600 performes in the similar range as its older brother RX 6600 XT, which is at around 30 MH/s with power draw of around 50W. If this proves to be true, the efficiency of RX 6600 will be the highest of a consumer GPU at 0.6 MH/J

I snagged 6 preorders already with my bots so I am pretty excited
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>>83816123

I got my 3080 I ordered over a year ago.
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Hello gamers..

I have a chance to buy a 5800x from a seller and hes willing to take my 3700x with money on top...

Is it worth it? Do you see a major performance bump at 1440p 144hz? Using a 3070..
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>>83816294
nice larp
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>>83816304
3700x with how much money on top?
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>>83816298
never too late anon
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>>83816314
hes selling it for 350, i would give him my 3700x and 150 on top. the 5800x has only been used for 3 days and hes selling bc he got an R9
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>>83816298
cool at least you will have it for a few months before RTX 4000.
Sad thing is that the card you ordered a year ago wasn’t LHR and what you received most definitely will be
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>>83816332
sounds jewish to me
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>>83816189
You get perfectly good temps with mid range air cooling, lower temps are completely useless
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>>83816345
Im not a shitcoin fag, so why would i care
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Installed new GPU + PSU, computer doesnt work anymore, stuck on Dell logo

PC: Dell XPS 8700
GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6600
PSU: PowerSpec 500W Switching power supply


Just bought a GPU and PSU today, installed both of them onto my PC. When I turn the PC on, the fan in the power supply and my motherboard start spinning. GPU fan also spins. However, then my monitor only shows the Dell logo. I tried pressing F12, F8, and F2 separately but nothing happens.

And the monitor doesn't display anything when I have my HDMI plugged into the GPU, it only displays the stuck Dell screen when I have the HDMI plugged into my computer's non-GPU HDMI port.

How the fuck can I make my PC work again and go back to gaming? I just wanted to upgrade my GPU. Any help will be SUPER appreciated. Thank you.
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>>83816356
because it is a less valuable component since it has had its hardware gimped
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>>83816400
i dont mine shitcoin, im not a tranny like you
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>>83816378

You plugged the 8pin power connector in right?
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Idk which is the appropriate place to ask this question, but since it's hardware related I'll try ask here:

If my monitor is 75Hz, do I set the ingame refresh rate to 75 or 60 if I capped the game's fps to 60?
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>>83816264
>Alternatively, if you just want a pack mule for films, television, and Gurren Lagann fanfiction, then the Barracuda 2TB is usually a good choice.

bingo. Well mostly roms and isos but same idea. Thanks.

Was really hoping drives were in a better spot but guess not.
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>>83816426
I plugged in the 4 pin on my motherboard to the 4+4 on my external PSU. Motherboard is 4 pin instead of 8.
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>>83816450
WHAT

THE

FUCK

ARE

YOU

SAYING
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>>83816450
Maybe upgrade the rest of your dogshit PC
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>>83816450
Post pics of the inside of your PC brainlet
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>>83816411
you may not be a tranny but you seem to let them live rent free in your mind.
Btw gaymers are the real tranny feminists. Enjoy you pozzed Cawladooty and Battlefield Rehashes on your crippled GPU
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>>83816479
>>83816465
>>83816458
1/2 this is a picture of the inside, the external PSU is set up on the bottom right so that's where the wires are coming from
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>>83816530
jesus christ
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>>83816479
>>83816465
>>83816458

This is the 4-pin connector from my PSU to my motherboard.

>>83816465
Not an option
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>>83816442
Honestly I don't think HDDs today are any less reliable than they were 10 years ago. The trouble is that they're so reliable that individual failures are basically background noise/ More importantly, long-term studies, a la Backblaze, aren't being done on consumer capacity HDDs any more so we're in the dark for hard data. That's why I advocate redundancy. Nobody can say for certain that drive X is more reliable than drive Y. On the other hand there's no widespread reports of specific drives failing so we can tell that the current crop at least meets basic durability standards. 2X, however, is certainly more reliable than X or Y.
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>>83816567
>>83816530

Don't use cables that aren't for pci-e just because they have the same amount of pins.

What the fuck is going on here, this is above /g/'s paygrade. We don't do this broke as shit here.
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>>83816587
the problem is SMR makes drives work 5x harder to read and write which is why they have shorter warranties
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>>83816646
you are talking about gaymers here. The lowest and most gullible gaggle of retards in tech
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>>83816646
I've attached the designated PCI-e cable to the GPU.
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>>83816669
Writing is more costly on SMR (assuming the drive has been filled somewhat beforehand) but reading is the same as on CMR. Thus they are well-suited to WORM type storage use when redundancy isn't worth it. Frankly, this is the last remaining use for traditional (non-redundant) consumer HDDs so it makes sense that they're all moving to SMR.
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>>83816264
>Barracuda 2TB

That better then a WD blue? Also anything a little bigger?
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whats the best drives for mining chia?
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redpill me on the 5950x
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>>83816920
>That better then a WD blue?
About the same. Both are SMR (at 2TB - the 1, 3, and 4TB Blues are CMR). We don't have long-term reliability data for either. Buy whichever is cheaper.

>Also anything a little bigger?
Plenty. As I insisted they're all still a lottery. If you want reliability, go redundant. If you want cheap, sort by lowest price.
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>>83816964
good but going to be obsoleted by v-cache
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>>83816964
not really worth the $200 premium over the 5900x unless you really actually do professional work
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Would a 1050 ti work fine with a 5600X or should I just get a 5600G and a good GPU later?
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I fell for the amd meme with the phenom vs 2600k gag. I won't fall for it again. games are made for intel. I'm not some dottering retard however, so I'd appreciate you changing my mind if you can
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>>83817270

AMD was never said to be widely competitive in that era. What literature were you reading to believe that
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>>83817283
2010 budget pc infographs and threads from /g/
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so I got my hands on 10 3060 Tis. How do I build a mining rig out of it?
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>>83817297I have already notified the Parisian authorities. Remain where you are.
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>>83817294

>budget

well yeah, if you're going to be a cheap fuck expect substandard results.

Does AMD look cheap to you right now lmao?
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>>83817305
I don't want to hitch a bet on the loser's side just because a fluke briefly won them some respect. Wisdom tells me they got a lucky tech breakthrough that won't last due to marketshare differences, market hedging, price manipulation and greater tech innovation coming from intel soon. As in things are going back to the way they were before this recent amd stuff; that amd is the clear worst choice for games. That I would be locked into a substandard ecosystem that has a minimal lifespan compared to Intel.
captcha: drntr
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tomorrow a lot of us will try and fail again at getting a gpu from the amd website. i would like to wish good luck to all the triers/criers
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>>83817297
get a motherboard with 6 PCIE slots
A cpu that can handle the PCIe lanes
8gb of RAM
6 pcie mining risers
A PSU capable of powering it all
a flashdrive with NiceHash OS
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>>83817383
>NiceHash OS
>not hiveos
other advice is sound though
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>>83817357

AMD has been dominant since the Ryzen series.

Now there is currently no reason to rush into an AMD machine if you can wait a month. Alder Lake numbers will be released first week of November I believe. At that point you can make your decision.
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>>83816123
>1080p: RTX 3060, RX 6600 XT
You had one job OP, one job. Your picture is even the 6600 non-XT
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>>83816345
>RTX 4000
In a year at the earliest.
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>>83817453
>6600 non-XT
miner's card, shit otherwise
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>>83817425
i was trying to be n00b friendly
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I want to build a pc but I don't want to pay 700 euros for a 3060
I'm unironically going to buy a laptop
fucking jews
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So 5800x or 5600x? Mostly gaming but also with multiple monitors and like 30 tabs of firefox/discord open? Also to survive until like the second or third generation of ddr5.

Microcenter prices is $100 apart between them.
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>>83817552
5600x is great but $100 isn't that much in the scope of 3 years, I'd go with 5800x.
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>>83817552
5600x if you game
5800x if you game and do professional workloads

5600x is going to be all 99% of the world needs for awhile
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>>83817507
enjoy your low TDP CPU and GTX 1650 level of performance. Retard.
Why dont you desperate gaymen just buy a PS5 and get it over with?
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>>83817564

Does the 5800x under perform compared to the 5600x in any way? Like its higher single core clock rate as well right?

>>83817568
>5600x is going to be all 99% of the world needs for awhile

Why I'm still leaning towards it even if I don't really have a budget.
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>>83817582
>5800x under perform compared to the 5600x
No, in the absolute worst case scenario (case with terrible airflow, stock cooler, high-end GPU heating the case, bad VRMs) they would be matched in single core perf with the 5800x still pulling ahead in multi core workloads. In more realistic scenarios the 5800x will pull ahead by a little even in single core.
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>>83817610

Dang. Looking for a reason not to go for it. Well I guess not wanting to pay more for a bigger cooler but I already normally over provision in that regard.
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Thought I'd ask you guys for some advice. My graphics card has been shitting the bed for the last 3 weeks and causing my computer to crash. Thought it was the c: drive but after hooking up an older card of mine it's definitely the GPU.

Up to date drivers everywhere. Healthy c: drive,Win10 is up to date, plenty of wattage, no heat, yet it just up and dies even if I leave and come back just to move the mouse an inch.
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>>83817792
try doing a complete fresh driver install for the graphics drivers, I heard updating the driver on top of older versions may cause issues
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>>83817792
Also, that case isnt doing you any favors either, it absolutely chokes gpus
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is this shit worth it? fuck the jews
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>>83817829
no, just wait
or buy 2nd hand gpu
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>>83817849
wait until when, 2025?
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>>83817859
buy xbox with gamepassu then when you get a reasonable gpu you can donate it to your niece
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>>83817582
>Does the 5800x under perform compared to the 5600x in any way? Like its higher single core clock rate as well right?
No. AMD doesn’t make 6 core silicon. They make 8 core silicon and disable 2 cores. The 5600X are 5800X dies with flaws. Cutting it down to 6 cores is a way to save wasted silicon
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>>83817978
>Cutting it down to 6 cores is a way to save wasted silicon
wtf is this true?
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>>83817859
no, probably not. i would bet any amount of money that 1 year from now the gpu holocaust will be over.
i'd also bet good amounts on 9 and 6 months...
basically you're waiting for the crypto bubble to pop or ETH to go POS. the crypto bubble has been going on since the start of the year, a bit more perhaps. ETH going POS is scheduled for Q1 '22.
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I'm going to buy a 5800x tell me why I shouldnt
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>>83818073
it's not an optimal purchase.
if you want it for gaming, an 11400 will be much cheaper, a 5600x will also be cheaper but not as much.
both will perform more or less the same as a 5800x in a reasonable gpu constrained situation(so, not on 1080p with a 3090)
if you want it for productivity/multicore perf, go 5900x, its much faster, obviously.
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>>83817805
Just uninstalled my older drivers, hit it with an install and factory reset in Radeon through Safe Mode. I'll report back if else should happen, but if I don't: Thanks for the help bro

>>83817821
My first build with that gpu was contained in a Node 202 case lol, wouldn't be the worse it had to deal with currently.
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>>83818094
What if im getting the 5800x for $360

im going to use it for games, vm's, and maybe gpu passthrough/looking glass
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>>83818166
or you could get an 11600k/11400 and use the extra $100 on a sweet new monitor
or like buy some cocaine
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i have a rtx 3090, what cpu do i pair it with? haven't kept up with any news at all, don't know if I should pick amd over intel
serious answers only please
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>>83818166
if you want to play with VMs, i'd advise stepping up to the 5900x. you can give one ccx to the vm and another to the host os.
also, do the math on $/core. you will find that both the 5600x and the 5900x are cheaper per core. at least, that's how it is for me.
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>>83818166
look you have already made up your mind to piss your money away frivolously. Like the old saying about a fool and their money.
You are buying the worst value CPU during the worst possible time. Mere weeks before a whole new Pc architecture drops.
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>>83818202
wait for alder lake and spend $1200 on a 12900k and $500 on a z690 motherboard
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>>83818202
what cpu do u have now? if its anything even remotely recent, i would advise you wait until the alder lake launch. in all likelihood, alderlake + 3090 will be the top of the line build until amd releases zen4. and if intel drops the ball, you can just go 5900x or wait for the 3d cache zen3+ chips to drop in q1 '22
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Hi /g/
What’s the best build for a Jew?
I am going to use some of my Bar Mitzvah cash to build a PC. What can I get for $8000?
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Is a 2600 good enough for 1080p gaming? I could get a 10th gen i3 for the same price. Then the 3600 and i5 are like 100% pricier.
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>>83818255
shop around for pre builts but personally i wouldnt spend more than 5k
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>>83818211
>>83818220
thanks guys
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>>83818267
yeh
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>>83818255
Go buy a prebuilt from B&H
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>>83818267
see if you can find a 3300X in your price range. They are really good
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>>83818267
>Is a 2600 good enough for 1080p gaming?
yea, probably, but its noticably worse than more recent stuff.

>I could get a 10th gen i3 for the same price
that would probably win in gaming workloads (but lose on multicore perf)

>Then the 3600 and i5 are like 100% pricier.
wtf? that shouldn't be the case

imo the optimal strategy if you are broke is to wait for alder lake and when it drops, buy a 11400. its better for gaming than the 2600 or 3600 and close enough to the 5600x to not be noticeable.
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>>83818325
I'm dumb and just noticed the 10400f is much much cheaper than the non-f version.

is that close to the 5600x in gaming performance? idk why AMD cpus are so fucking overpriced. at least with Intel's you get the "it has integrated graphics" excuse to justify a 50% increase.
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>>83818255
make sure you get intel
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>>83818339
>is that close to the 5600x in gaming performance?
in a realistic scenario you will be gpu constrained, so yea, it will be close.
if you benchmark it at 1080p with a 3090, you will see a measurable difference.
imo the 11400 is the current budget gaming sweetspot, the 10400 should be pretty close in perf. but then again, they should be close in price too, so go 11400 if you can.
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I feel like this not a great value for a 6600 thoughts? Already have a 3070, 20 mins left
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>>83817479
>>83818396
Oh
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>>83818396
I wouldn't unless you're gonna try to scalp it
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>>83818396
>warranty & services
LMAO
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>>83818426
A friend wanted to see with that price when he asked but yes I took it off already since he said no
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>>83818396
it’s a great crypto card. Just mine with it. Or dont buy it and maybe Newegg will offer it to me
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>>83817453
op here, at worst i forgot to put the release in the news part. it's too early to put it in one of those tiers, not to mention it's apparently a very underperforming card even for its price
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>>83817443
>since zen3*
ftfy
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My GForce 760 died, anything on par with it that I can substitute in the meantime, or is a budget of $250 just peanuts now a days?
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>>83818536
my 1050 2gb can run Rise smoothly

My ti died but thankfully I always buy 2 cards during BF. Sucks that the ti I got years ago was the last one in Best Buy. It was less than 200 for both cards so it's current price blows my mind.
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>>83818536
1050 ti?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274760831827?epid=28031984310&hash=item3ff9059353:g:R9wAAOSwJuBg812d

can prob find cheaper used
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https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDzc2V
Is this an acceptable build?
I already have storage and a GPU lying around so I just need to get everything else
Budget is around the range you see and I'm a yuropoor
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>>83818572
>https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDzc2V
why 5600G?
do 5600x for like $13 more
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>>83818572
>https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDzc2V
the 5600g is an APU, you don't need integrated graphics if you have an actual GPU.
so change it to a 11400f if you want to save money
you will also have to change the mobo to a b560
get some better ram if possible, 3600mhz cl16
get a better case, wtf is that chinkshit, recommend the phanteks p500a digital (the one that comes with 3 fans)
get a better psu, wtf is that chinkshit, evga/corsair/seasonic 650w gold rated
if you buy cheap chinkshit parts they will fail and you will end up spending more in the long run
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>>83818585
Sorry anon I meant to put a 5600X there, you're right
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do you expect the last AM4 refresh to give us better temps?
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>>83818560
>>83818565
THIS WILL WORK, BLESS.
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>>83818653
no
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>>83818012
It's very common, with this new ultra small nm size of shit fabricators fuck up a bunch more
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>>83818438
>>83818417
Well it gets here in a week so I guess I'll figure out which of these I want to do
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>>83818653
why do you care lmao
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Good cooler for 5800x? So use to just slapping nh-d14/15 on things but not sure if it needs that.
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>>83818585
>>83818609
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/fxbg2V
Is this better now?
Thank you for helping me anons I appreciate it
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>>83818653
my 5900X runs hotter than my 3900X so I doubt it.
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>>83818786
high dolla case, can find better if tryin to budget
ur call
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>>83818773
"need" is a relative albiest garbage trap
chads use these
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I want my gf to play Valorant with me.

>2500K ($40)
>GT 1030 ($66)
>Some cheapo Z77 or H61 board ($50)
>can give her 4GB of DDR3 RAM from my old build
>some cheapo PSU 450W ($50)
>could probably repurpose her old PC case for the build
>give her my G400s mouse
>need to buy a good keyboard, probably a used G710+
>could use her 32" TV to play

She has never played games in her life other than Claw, Road Rash and the like and uses a laptop that has a garbage first gen intel i3 340M and runs slows as molasses.

I'm at an impasse. I can't afford top-end hardware, but this seems to be great for someone who mostly uses the PC for work and general use rather than a full on game machine. My other idea was an Athlon 3000G build, but it runs like shit for Valorant.

What do?
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>>83818773
picrel is literally all you *need* and it is a fuckin shame that AMD no longer includes it.
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>>83818786
>https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/fxbg2V
yea, much better.
maybe spend a little more on the mobo
also wtf that case price, i was recommending it at 100-120euro, fuck that $250
have a look at gamersnexus on youtube, he has some very comprehensive case reviews. every review includes comparative graphs for temps, so watch the latest one and bring a notepad
he also makes "best of" vids with recommendations, but i think the last one was a few months ago, still, probably a good idea to check it out.
ideally you want something in the 70-100euro range, mesh front, comes with 2 front + 1 back fans (getting your fans with the case is a v. good way to save money)
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A couple months ago I was planning on upgrading to a 3600x or 3600 from my ryzen 5 1600 since that's what was recommended at the time.
Now I see this newer 5600x chip being recommended instead and for a similar price. So is there no more reason to even look at the 3600 series anymore?

Since I'm also looking at mobos I was going to wait for holiday sales in the hopes I can save something with prices being what they are right now.
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>>83818786
samefag as >>83818924
check out the be quiet 500dx, comes with 3 fans (move the top fan to the front), its 90 euro for me
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>>83816182
>t. Filtered
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>>83818965
>So is there no more reason to even look at the 3600 series anymore?
its not worth the $50 you save. If you already have a 3600 or can get one for less than $100 then maybe worth it. But if you are going to spend $220 then why not just spend $250-270 and get the best?
A few months ago the reason to buy a 3609 was because the 5600X was as scarce as a GPU.
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>>83818965
wait for alder lake, it may be a good buy or not, but will almost certainly drop prices on whats available now
currently the budget gaming sweetspot is the 11400. cheaper than the 5600x, pretty much same perf in realistic gaming situations.
so that would be my plan, wait for alder lake, if its epic buy it, else buy cheaper 11400
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>>83816488
You seem poor
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>>83818982
Sounds like he attained enlightenment to me. Waterfags are retards. It’s aircooling with extra steps. Like driving an EV powered by coal or LNG generation
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>>83818907
Your gf would rather do ANYTHING besides play Valorant with you
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>>83819006
Water cooler more effectively than air. You seem like a brainlet who doesn't understand heat transfer
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>>83818907
use the money for a new gf that actually plays games
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Should I do it /g/? I really really want to. What would you change? Keep it under $350 USD.
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>>83819037
Nope. You are literally adding additional levels of power consumption to get ~2c cooler temps. You are the brainlet who doesn’t understand
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>>83818983
Thanks a bunch.

>>83818988
Well I'm waiting for holiday prices and I want this upgrade done preferably before the year ends. If they announce that thing next month then it should line up nicely.
And thank you also for the rec. I tend to stick to amd CPUs but I really shouldnt try to ignore good intel options either.
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>>83818907
break up with the gf.
use the money you saved to upgrade your own pc and play 4k/144hz valorant with raytracing on an OLED!
fuck bitches, get money
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>>83819068
its a fine upgrade, but i have 2 objections
1) spend just a tiny bit more to go 11400/b560. should be ~$50 more
2) wait for alder lake, it might be worth buying. if not, it will drop prices on current chips. only a few weeks away
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>>83818907
kill your gf
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>>83819074
More like 7 or 8 degrees C, faggot. Remember that C is way more significant than Fahrenheit.

Power draw doesn't matter to me because I'm not poor and can buy a good power supply and pay an electric bill.

Hang yourself
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>>83818907
sell your gf and buy an upgrade
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>>83818840
>>83818924
>>83818969
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/fxThW3
I think this should be it, right?
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>>83819266
yup, thats the one
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>>83817552
you can get a 5800k for $360 on the antonline ebay store
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>>83819318
>5800k
n-nani
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>>83819292
Thanks again for all of the help anon, I'll see to it asap
In the meantime I'll check the channel you recommended and see if anything inspires me, so thank you for that too
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>>83819326
I fat fingered the x
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>>83819346
enjoy that shit fren
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>>83817507
Just do your research and buy a higher tdp card
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>>83818282
GPUs are dead. The price of this just doesn't make sense for anyone. This is supposed to be the bottom of the barrel GPU, but the price is that of a upper mid range GPU.
My RX480 was $370 ($390 after inflation), so I was hoping that I could get a 6600 to hold me over until the 7000 series but nope.
What are we supposed to do if our GPUs die?
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>>83819068
Damn, son, you literally do not give a shit about practicality. Yeah upgrade your CPU.
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>>83819074
>~2c
Keep telling yourself that
https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/blog/does-pump-flow-rate-affect-water-cooling/
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>>83819421
can't believe console master race is real now
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>>83819493
those are sold out too
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>>83819493
>console are chea-
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>>83817362
>consider it
>google "6700 xt driver timeout"
>still an issue
Yeah naw, I'll Just Wait™
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>>83819496
dunno where you are, but i can get msrp ps5 and xbox series s right now. not the series x, yet, but i guess that won't be long either...
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>>83819421
>What are we supposed to do if our GPUs die?
buy a console is the best option. buy a scalped gpu is the worst option.
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>>83819507
im trying to get a 6800 non xt
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>>83819496
>>83819504
It's priced well and has decent stock in my country but too bad it has no games.
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Crypto near ATH again. Brace yourselves
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>>83819568
and you cant alt-tab to e621 while waiting for a league que
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>>83816434
you want to match your monitor refresh rate to your fps, so you want to cap your monitors refresh rate to 60hz
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Should I wait for Alder Lake or should I start a build now? My desktop is now 6 years old and even then it was a budget build
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>>83819150
Rich people never call people poor. That is a poor person’s fantasy. You betray to this entire general that you are poor and probably bought your entire rig on credit.
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Why do people keep buying Nvidia?
>more expensive
>uses more power
>worse drivers
>performs worse
>>B-but much RT
RT is a meme for this generation. Barely any games use it and the games to do incur such a large performance penalty that it's barely playable.
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>>83819588
fucking awesome to be a cryptochad right now. My wallet grows by the second
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I had no idea I would be this excited. I just bought all the parts I need to upgrade my 2010 computer. Only 1k. Only things I didn't buy were GPU and storage devices. I'll wait to see if times become less retarded in the GPU market before I upgrade. a 1060ti is good enough for what I do, but it is fairly low powered and I would like to upgrade it within the next.
I also have the 144 1080p 24.5" anti-ghosting BenQ monitor coming. This is upgrading from a shitty 5ms 1080p I found for less than a hundred dollars in Best Buy around 2011.
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>>83819719
>a 1060ti is good enough for what I do, but it is fairly low powered and I would like to upgrade it within the next.
within the next few years.
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>>83819719
>I had no idea I would be this excited
thats called dopamine, anon
women and faggots get it from shopping and from “likes” and “upvotes”
It’s the same feeling one gets from actual achievement. But in the end it it is nothing more than consuming.
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>>83819669
Because they don't have driver issues that never get fixed.
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>>83819751
>thats called dopamine, anon
My antidepressant must be working
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>>83819759
Every nvidia gpu I had was like this constantly.
I have never had an issue with my AMD gpu, but that's probably because I also run linux
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>>83819719
don't listen to the demoralizing trannyfaggots anon.
enjoy your new shit.
hopefully within a few months the gpu clusterfuck gets resolved.
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>>83819759
it's pretty bonkers that despite insane prices drivers only get worse
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>>83819759
>Because they don't have driver issues that never get fixed.
Thats brutal anon. I don’t think RDNA could’ve been fixed. It was fundamentally broken. Polaris was excellent. With that said, my RTX card has crashed twice since I got it in July.
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>>83819772
>trannyfaggots
/pol/ really needs a new meme insult. This one lost its edge already
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>>83819817
tranny detected. deploying countermeasure.
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>>83819831
>t.you
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>>83819450
How so??
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>83819817
YWNBAW
pick up the phone, and dial 8
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Yeah so i'm going to buy a GPU at some point after Christmas
Will the rtx 3070 still be 850-1000€ and unobtainium in, say, march?
It's not bc of budget concerns per se but this is retarded.

I have a feeling it may get even worse though
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>>83819817
ironic since your only insult is "/pol/" ">>>/pol/" or "incel".

>>83819857
this
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>>83819867
2bh your obsession with trannies says everything we need to know about you.
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how's the GTX 1660? I picked up the last prebuilt they had at Costco for $1K and it has this card.

Is this best I can hope for without getting anally rekt or waiting for months before I can actually put together a decent PC?
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>>83819861
>it may get even worse though
maybe, if ETH hits new all time highs before POS is announced with a concrete date

>Will the rtx 3070 still be 850-1000€ and unobtainium in, say, march?
completely depends on when ETH goes POS and/or when the crypto bubble pops. whichever happens first will cause the gpu flood on ebay and the retail prices to collapse
the bubble popping is completely unpredictable, crypto has no real fundamentals to allow you any forecasting.
ETH is scheduled to go POS sometime in Q1 '22. delays are possible. but at the same time the announcement of a certain date for a merge will also have a big effect
so yea, who knows
1 year from now it will be over for sure
9 months, very very likely
6 months, pretty decent chances
earlier than that, its impossible to say
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>>83819882
we aren't obsessed with trannies. lots of people dislike them because they are mentally ill people who prove to be huge annoyances no matter where they are or what they are doing. They have bad opinions because they are mentally ill. I personally attack all tranny material on 4chan simply to help gatekeep. I want you and other undesirables to be uncomfortable. It isn't obsession, it takes almost no time to do and it is mildly funny to me, meanwhile it might sometimes do some good by keeping at least a few of the trash out.
It's only practical.
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>>83819890
its better than the 1050ti
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>>83819906
sounds like a cope to me.
Totally and completely obsessed
You are either scared that you will become a tranny. Or you have already started wearing your mother’s things and despise yourself for it
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>>83819882
and your obsession with /pol/ speaks volumes about yourself, tranny.
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>>83819930
I completely recognized what you are doing several posts ago. I only post any of this because I am waiting for my Hell Let Loose queue to come through. I just want to say that you are transparent, that I am smarter than you and that it won't work on me.
Any accelerationists I find irl get treated badly. I make their lives a little bit harder if I can, but I rarely can.
Don't reply.
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>>83819905
Read your pasta already
Idc if it's some lhr stuff either and that shouldn't be influenced by crypto as much i'd guess but i don't even know in this fucking Clownworld
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>https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-confirms-ryzen-cpu-refresh-with-3d-v-cache-early-in-2022/
>This refresh will make use of AMD's 3D chiplet technology, specifically 3D V-Cache, to bolster the amount of cache on the chips.
>Dr. Lisa Su promised "we'll be ready to start production on our highest-end products with 3D chiplets by the end of this year."
>Highest-end
So this probably means the ryzen 6600 most likely won't have v-cache? It's a mid-range chip.
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>>83819719
>upgrading 2010 PC
sounds like a bad idea, everything got better since then, you'll need to replace all parts
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>>83819952
yikes
schizzo!
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>>83819968
LHR is just marketing to offset the negative press from gamers.
if nvidia meant it those cards would not mine at all, not mine at 50% (recently up to 70% with specific miners)
anyway, listen, it doesn't matter so much. assuming you're a functional adult with a job, spending a few hundred shekels extra is not the end of the world.
if you can wait, do so. if not, well, rip your wallet i guess
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>>83819980
>ryzen 6600
never heard of it
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>>83819994
Tranny!
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>>83816123
>getting my last neetbux backpay install sometime around March's end
>never going to have that much money again in my life
Will GPU prices be normal by 2022 march/april? I feel like a 3.5k budget should be able to get something better than a 5800x & rtx 3080.
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Made a shit ton of money from Shiba Coin, well not a shit ton of money, lets just say enough to not care about scalper prices for GPUs on eBay.

I bought a MSI RTX 3070 Ti Gaming X Trio for $1250 shipped. I did a ton of research and I read this has basically the best heatsink and fans.

Could I have gotten better pricing? its $999 MSRP at Best Buy(lol).

Should I pair this with a 5600x or 5800x?
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>>83820021
i built mine for 3k
5900x + 6900xt tho
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>>83819861
There should be a new gen by that time. The 3000 series is already a year old and there's usually a new gen every 1.5 years (roughly march 2022)
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>>83820037
I'd advise the 5800x, consoles have 8 cores 16 threads now and games are going to be made with that in mind.
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>>83819994
>assuming you're a functional adult with a job
I am, it's just that I'm irritated by the current prices

I was going to wait till after Christmas anyway so whatever.

Let's just hope for the best.
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I know fuck all about computer building. I genuinely only intend to play in 1080p 144hz, and will essentially only be fucking about in Black Desert Online & Path of Exile. Is the exorbitant price of a 3080 worth it for that? Or would AMD shit be better than RTX?
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>>83820021
Get the 3080ti but not the 3090.
>march/april
logically speaking should be the best time to upgrade the CPU, and maybe GPU because of Intel launch?
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>>83820054
Huh. That could drop prices indeed. Thanks for pointing that out
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>>83819999
>Ryzen 5600
What do you think the refresh will be genius
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>>83820091
>Is the exorbitant price of a 3080 worth it for that?
no, definitely not
the 3080 will do anything in 1440p, will do pretty well in 4k too.
look at the 3060ti
as for amd, they are overpriced compared to the already overpriced nvidia cards, imo ignore them (unless you can get them at msrp from amd.com)
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>>83820110
don't listen to the dumb illiterate uninformed tourist nigger, nvidia and amd already confirmed the new GPU gens are coming at the end of 2022.
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>>83820122
Ryzen 5600XX
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>>83819980
Probably not. They've the option of refreshing and discounting the current lineup as the lower tier products while the vcache parts are sold as the new halo products
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>>83820101
I'm getting the totality of the computer in March/April of 2022 with the aforementioned neetbux. Will a 3080ti even fit in a 3.5k budget? Will this meme shit end by then?
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>>83820149
You sound completely clueless and should read the OP If you want an advice.
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>>83820021
>never going to have that much money again in my life
>Doesn't start saving up but squanders whatever little money he gets
Welp if your gonna waste your money atleast weigh the cost to performance and not be a good little goy.
Pick value options
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>>83820173
That's what an ABLE account is for, anon.
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The 66xt is so bad it barely beats the worst gpu amd ever made https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Radeon-VII-vs-AMD-RX-6600-XT/4035vs4117
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>>83820122
you never know with AMD.
but then referenced article was regarding 3d Vcache on AM4. Nothing about AM5
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>>83820208
>userbenchmark
fuck off retarded mongoloid
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>>83820130
>Ryzen 5600XX
That sounds stupid but it's a possibility I guess.
>>83820137
I've got an b450 mortar and 1600 so I might as well wait for the slight price drop or store discounts on 5600x and get my upgrade then hey?
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>>83820217
Cope it's slower then Vega 64/56/vii and 5700xt stay mad gay faggot
T. 2080ti
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>>83820180
>That's what an ABLE account is for, anon.
Mental disability? Checks out
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>>83820234
Who else would come to /g/ for stuff :^)
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>>83820126
>new GPU gens are coming at the end of 2022
Source?
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>>83820258
>https://www.techradar.com/news/next-gen-gpus-could-launch-october-2022-from-both-amd-and-nvidia
>Next-gen GPUs could launch October 2022 – from both AMD and Nvidia
Not him but Google is your friend
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>>83816378
Use your on board graphics to navigate and install the updated drive software for your GPU. Other than that, maybe check power requirements. Good luck man
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>>83820268
Fucks sake, I don't want to spend 200% MSRP on a 1 year old GPU and I don't want to wait another year for new stuff. I'm afraid my rx480 will die before then.
When will this nightmare end?
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>>83820305
the nightmare is only beginning
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>>83820312
shut the fuck up tranny
the crypto bubble will pop any day now
RTX 3090 will be less than $500
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>>83820325
i wish i lived in your reality
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>>83820325
>imblying
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>>83820330
just be a closet tranny in denial and call everyone else a tranny in denial
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>>83816378
This is the price you pay for getting OEM builds.
They fuck around with the bios so much I wouldn't be surprised they broke something.
Though this is fud on my case.
Good luck m8. Keep researching.
Maybe CMOS reset can help
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>>83816123
Why hasn't Buildzoid done anything for GN anymore?
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>>83820370
>Why hasn't Buildzoid done anything for GN anymore?
It was always a Collab. When the next mobos release maybe we'll do something but they were always separate entities
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>>83820325
>crypto bubble will pop any day now
>Bitcoin just rallied like 30% last week
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I put a fan under my GPU blowing into it and it increased the temps. Do PSUs really generate that much heat?
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>>83820397
Put the intake fan on top of GPU
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Will Intel new GPUs make a difference in the GPU market? Place bet!
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>>83820442
It'll give more people the opportunity to buy 710s.
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>>83820416

The top is covered by a DH-15
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>>83820397

What do you mean you put a fan under your GPU?

LIke intake fans?

That should 100% help, are you sure you don't accidently have it in exhaust?
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>>83820546
you're out of luck then, ledditfag.
The only way to improve temps is to put fan blowing directly on the back of the GPU
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>>83820397
post a picture of your build
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>current pc is 1060 6gb, 16gb ram 3000mhz, R5 3600, 1080p 60hz screen
>want to upgrade to 1440p 120+ hz
>better mb to house new gpu, more ram, a bigger cooler to squeeze an overclock out of the 3600 and a bigger psu
>noctua cooler, same ram as the current system
>want top notch screen so i go for a Rog 27" screen with all bells and whistle
>might as well go rog on mb and psu as well
>total without gpu: 1200€
>gpu would set another 1200-1500 with current prices
>stumble on rog laptops
>3000 for a R9 5900X, 32gb 3200 mhz, 3080 with 2 m2 ssds 1tb each
Really tempted to bite the portable pill now. Are these things shitboxes or actual good systems that i could use as a makeshift desktop if i connect a screen as well and provide enough cooling?
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>>83820397
>Do PSUs really generate that much heat?
Is your psu under your GPU?
Are you saying your blowing the PSU exhaust air into your GPU? Plus wouldn't putting a fan under your GPU mean your GPU fan is fighting your case fan now? Somewhat neutralising any airflow?
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why the fuck is the nh-d15 so fucking big
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>>83820628
i dunno lol
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>>83817080
5700g is $300 at microcenter and can be price matched with bestbuy

go that route or 5600g
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>>83820628
Otherwise it can't compete with water-cooling
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>>83816123
this shit would be $200 any other gen lol wtf AMD
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>>83820932
it doesn't compete with air cooling regardless.
just get a fuma 2 it's only slightly weaker than an NHD15 and doesn't have the retarded oversized form factor
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>>83820037
holy shit what a retarded waste of money lmao
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>>83820037

>I don't care about prices
>could I have gotten a better price?
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>>83820935
not anymore, even AMD is changing pricing based on performance
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What's a good noctua (or similar) fan to replace my 2200G's stock wraith cooler fan?
Preferably something that isn't too huge because my case is pretty small (matx).
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>>83821259
liquid freezer 420
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>>83821278
Is there any that's more newbie friendly? I don't know anything about water cooler.
Also it would be great if it costs less than $70.
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how do i get over my fear of buying used components? i feel like it's not merited since i've never had something used die on me but my reasoning is 1. no warranty 2. theres no way to know if they were straining the hardware (e.g. shitty thermals, a shitty OC)
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>>83820442
They won't be any more available for purchase than anything else. 100% zero difference.
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besides using an ssd, is there anything else I can do to make my laptop faster? it is from ~2014 and its processor is from the 2000 U series I think
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>>83821678
im using i7-2720m with 6gb ddr3, nothing else you can do to it. we are sad and outdated
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>>83821678
put it in the back seat of a Ferrari
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i have a 3070ti that takes 2x 8pin and a 6pin connector
Can I run it with just the 2x 8 pin or is the 6 pin necessary as it's really difficult finding a way to connect it all up and look nice
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>>83821336
I bought a used old gen cpu (bulldozer) and it came with some crashes. you might face problems. I wouldn't buy a used CPU or PSU, I would be wary of GPUs unless they were new lower end models like 1060; because that makes them more likely an upgrade loss cut than a problem being shifted on to you. There is also no reason to buy used storage devices since prices are so cheap, that's simply a risk that isn't worth the gain. Therefore cases, monitors, cables, some GPUs, coolers, fans, and motherboards are decent to buy used. Note that motherboards are very complicated and can be severely damaged by electrical problems without obvious signs while in use, but as long as it's a generally expensive motherboard and is one that is about one socket generation behind, and you can see that there are no burn marks on the pcb, it is likely a loss cut.
if you are smart, you can get any of these parts while minimizing risk. but literally just wait a month and save up more money or suck mommies clitty for a little more savings and buy new.
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my setup
>r5 3600
>rx 5700xt

would upgrading the cpu to the next gen's equivalent bring more than single percent performance gains?
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>>83821789
I mean cpu and gpu
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>>83821803
I have a 5700xt and with the gpu prices i'd feel like an idiot if i bought a new gpu
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>>83817571
>GTX 1650 level of performance
Lol
Lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1sCLpkOkhY
Get out of your own ass, caveman
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>>83821820
>sell 5700xt for 800
>buy new gpu for 1300
>paid 500 for new gpu
not that bad of a plan
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>>83821848
or you could pay 0 and keep the 5700xt
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is it worth the extra $100 to choose a 27in 1440p monitor over a 24 in 1080p? like is 1440p that good? i never experienced one and knowing me ill probably never know the difference
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>>83821914
just stick to 1080 unless you want a higher refresh
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>>83821931
>unless you want a higher refresh
144hz is what im choosing
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>>83821942
get the 1440, youll have a lot more space
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>>83818914
this
I use it on my 5600x and even on bigger loads CPU stays below 70 C
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>>83821914
if you have a shit video card, no. if good, absolutely
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>>83822002
trying to get my hands on a 3070, until then im dealing with a GT 710
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>>83822037
>GT 710
Wtf
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>The key difference will be target >market, which shapes how the >chips are designed. As Intel itself >says, Rocket Lake chips will be >primarily aimed at gamers and PC >enthusiasts who want the absolute >best performance on offer - but it'll >likely have a price to match.

>Alder Lake looks like it'll take a >different approach, in order to >appeal more to everyday >consumers. Unlike Rocket Lake, it >looks to focus just as much on >power efficiency as performance, >"combining high-performance >cores and high-efficiency cores into >a single product". The latter should >lead to big improvements in battery >life, so long as there aren't >wholesale changes to the rest of >the chip.

"Wait for alder lake anon!" "It's going to be faster anon!"
Turns out It's a shitty efficiency targeted product for laptops
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>>83822064
welcome to my world
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>>83818036
You're delusional as fuck.
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>>83818036
Looks like the nocoiner poorfag gaymer is back.
Good. I needed a form of amusement.
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>>83818907
Do you consider having sex with her instead?
Its cheaper.
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>>83822037
>GT 710
>not gts 250
you dumb richfag
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>>83821259
>>83821296
>46-65W
don't do liquid it's overkill for that APU
if your dead set on noctua nearly anything they have would fit the bill. I'm also assuming you mean the whole cooler and not just the fan.
https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail
NH-L9x65 or the smaller one should fit unless you have some tiny thin case.
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>>83821873
well that was my question to begin with - is the new hardware that much better that it would give me more than single digit percent of better performance or am I just fine.

bf 2042 ran okay - 70-80fps on win11 and pretty high settings
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>Big on emulation
>Buy ryzen CPU cause it's supposed to be superior
>Learn like two days ago that AMD has shit OpenGL support which is needed for most emulation standards

Am I gonna have to save up for Alder Lake
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>>83822313
OpenGL is a GPU technology, retard
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>>83822301
Going from 5700xt to 6700xt is quite a jump let alone any gpu that's even more powerful

But you can also wait until the next generation of gpus come out too
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>>83822275
I didn't mean I need noctua exclusively it's just I don't know any good fan brand except that.
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>>83822323
ah yes, wait (TM)
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>>83822343
Nothing is stopping him from buying a 6800xt or something right now though
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>>83816123
Hi so I will be paying half of the sum of a gaming pc tommorow. The place I'm getting it from usually uses water cooling but I don't want to have it as I fear it will break. Should I ask him to put one or two more ventilators instead or what can I do?
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Is a 3060 non-ti worth it for $500? Will it bottleneck significantly on a 2600 at 1080p?
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Why is G.Skill so economical?
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>>83822313
>big on emulation
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Should I feel stupid about buying a 1080p, 144Hz monitor in late 2021?
I'm on a laptop with a 5600m, so I don't think I could run 1440p. And I doubt I'll be getting new hardware any time soon.
And 1080p looks bad on a 1440p display?
If I were to get a 1080p, is 27" too big?
Maybe I could get a 4k/60 and use integer scaling in big games, and native res in older/indie titles?
Dunno what to do. Thought monitors would be dead cheap by now.
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>>83822232
ey, i tried to get whatever the cheapest GPU was just to display things and play super low end games with in the meantime and everyone told me to get a GT 710 which was 43 bucks
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>>83822471
27 inch is too big for 1080
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>>83819150
>Remember that C is way more significant than Fahrenheit.
what the fuck does that even mean you fucking retard
and if you can have completely decent temps with air cooling, the lower temps you get with water cooling will not give you anything more.
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>>83822706
not him but should've gotten an R7 250 then, the 710 is a piece of shit
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>>83822367
do you have more details like a parts list?
I'm assuming they use an AIO (all-in-one water cooling solution) on the CPU, in which case it can indeed be replaced by an air cooler (heatsink + fan or fans).
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>>83820594
Pls repond

I need to know if it's a bad call or what.
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>>83822417
New games suck anon...
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>>83822313
>he doesn't know Intel is the king of emulation
>he doesn't know Intel mobos literally have a switch to activate emulation in BIOS
Sucks to be you.
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>>83818339
>10400f
>integrated gpu
That's exactly the version without any enabled integrated gpu.
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>>83820595
Well, time to switch to linux
Im not using the dogshit that is windows 10 and 11



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