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ELON MUSK WAS (AND PRESUMABLY STILL IS) A CODELET!
HAHAHAHAH
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>>83388758
Musk is an agent of the NWO. A high level mason. He's just an actor like Trump, Biden, and so many others.
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>>83388758
No shit, musk is a businessman, a scummy one at that
He is not an engineer
He is not a computer scientist
He is not a programmar
No matter how much he pretends to be, he is nothing but a snake oil salesman. But I have to hand it to him, he sure manages to sell a lot of snake oil to the retards.
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>>83388783
but his twitter memes are pretty funny and he has a rocket company
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>>83388758
>just teach yourself how to code bro
>>*writes horrible unoptimized spaghetti code*
>duuuuuuuuuuuuude

reminder that you're a shit programmer if you don't spend literal years learning the META for your specific applications

>but i learned all python syntax in a month bro
fuck you, you're shit.
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elon musk is a fraud
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>>83388827
There is an inherent difference between programming, and program architecture design.
How you design your program is much more important than knowing the syntax.
You need to know the syntax/ways of implementation to design the architecture, but 'self taught programmers' lack the design architecture and just do whatever without structured plan of tackling a problem.
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Yeah, and he is the billionaire meanwhile these computer scientists are his employees.
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>>83388872
You know who else was a billionaire? Hitler.
So musk is literally Hitler.
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>>83388859
yeah, that's almost exactly what i was trying to say

it makes me cringe when i hear about a self-taught/bootcamp developer bragging about getting a job within 3 months or something quick like that

i just know for a fact that they're shitting up the work process with their inefficient practices

it's one thing to know a language
it's completely different ball game to know how to use that language effectively

you can do the former in a day
it takes years to do the latter
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>>83388758
>thinking the faggot that wanted to get the paypal servers to switch to running on windows instead of linux is anything but a brainlet
retard
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>>83388827

u mad
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>>83388816
>>83388827
>>83388855
Why are frog images always so low quality? You can see visible JPEG artifacts on every single one and not a single one is transparent.
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>>83388894
>i just know for a fact that they're shitting up the work process with their inefficient practices
Honestly that wouldn't be their fault, but the project leader/supervisors fault.
The more experienced/higher ups should give the juniors smaller parts of the program that they can then implement independently. They shouldn't depend on any input into the structure from the juniors.
i.e. "junior, program class X that does Y, talk to your colleague about how it interfaces with class Z he is building"
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>>83388886
the left will agree with this
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>>83388943
tl;dr If you put junior devs in places where they can mess up the architecture, you have failed your job as a project lead and architecture designer.
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>overhyped scammer is not as smart as his fanboys believe
Shocking news, OP.
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>>83388913
better?
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>>83388758
yeah but he has all that Afrikan blood diamond mine inheritance so it doesn’t matter. Musk is just a younger trump with a better hairstyle
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>>83388827
>BRO LEARN THE META
>>>/v/
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>>83388758
Good, codemonkeys have no soul
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>>83389028
sure
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>>83388816
>but his twitter memes are pretty funny and he has a rocket company
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>>83388758
More proof that the least important thing in programming is being able to program.
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>Tesla started accepting wait-list applications for the 2020 Roadster in 2017. The cost of application was $50,000.
>To date, 0 of these Roadsters have been delivered.
This simple fact never gets posted because surface-level Musk haters don't know that much about his companies, but once you start looking into them more it gets way funnier.
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>>83388943
I absolutely agree with this. I don't know why OP is so mad about self taught programmers getting jobs. I think the requirements needed to be a professional (as in "work for money") are different for different levels of the enterprise taking place (in this case, building software). So, it's not crazy a self taught programmer can meet the requirements for some level of participation.
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>>83389524
He is delivering some stuff to space, though.
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>>83388758
elonfags are retarded. all he's good for is blowing up rockets and killing people with cars.
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>>83388758
>BREAKING NEWS!
>team of computer scientists more skilled in programming than single self-taught programmer
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>>83389524
I think we can all agree that 2020 was a crazy year, and we still haven't recovered from it.
I also think we all know that Musk's timeframes are very optimistic and people don't go into preordering hit shit without accepting that.
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>>83388758
and yet the most performant architectures, whether enterprise or not, are monolithic
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>>83388767
NWO exists since the 17th century and it actually is the foundation and existance of US as it was thought by the British founders, "the return of Saturn's reign" at it is called
Go read a book or something
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>>83388758
He’s the richest man in the world and you live in your mom’s basement
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>>83389662
There's a bunch of Falcon Heavy launches on the books over the next few years.
That shits gonna be fun to watch.
Also, the Falcon 9 is nearing 100 successful launches in a row (counting the pad failure of Atmos 6 as a launch failure), which is crazy reliable. It has had more consecutive successful launches than Atlas V (but Atlas V has been 100% reliable).
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>>83389524
it is posted though
but if you remember back then people complained about scale and impact, which he did and thus abandoned this toy car shit
you can't be both, you have to compromise either in product or in time
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>>83388783
>He is not a programmar
He programmed “Blastar” at age 12
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>>83388767
I believe you, take me down the rabbit hole, I want to learn more.
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>>83388886
Cool. I love Hitler.
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>>83388827
Self taught codelets hated him because he spoke the truth
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>>83389705
According to /g/tards, self taughts are even better than MIT graduate students with 4.0 GPAs. Really shows how many people have an inferiority complex kek.
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>>83388758
>Self taught coder only produces shit
Now that is really surprising
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>>83388816
This is what she said
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>>83388758
>new hires
Were obviously people with industry experience or had done case studies at least. New college grads are some of the worst I've seen, worse than even bootcamp monkeys. And they get worse every year.
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>>83390725
even worse, he was a game dev on a few titles for sega cd
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>>83388758
>big, monolithic hunks of code that could go berserk for mysterious reasons.
>tfw AI goes on a sexually-crazed berserk mode
...
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>>83388767
all the inventions are stolen from the previous advanced civilization.
makes you wonder why people restarted back to bronze age and gone past iron age real fast because of the remnant resources.
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>>83388816
>but his twitter memes are pretty funny
go back musklet
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>>83389524
It's a free market, baby
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>>83388886
Just like drumpf
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>>83388758
>nu devs writing "less lines"
>not creating giant hunks of code that is turing complete so you can salvage the code to create new code if you get stranded in exoplanets and had to use spare parts
nudevs ngmi
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>businessman turned CEO has limited technical background, news at 11
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>>83390788
Source: your loose asshole
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>>83388767
His role is to sell the public on transhumanism and cryptocurrency
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>>83388783
You realize "scummy" is a compliment to a businessman right?
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>>83388758
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>>83389524
Imagine if they had put that money in Tesla stock in 2017 lmao
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>>83392657
Musk was unironically right.
Especially back in 2000.
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>>83388758
>paypal mafia
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>>83388913
People who post the uncomfortable pepe are filthy normalfags who deserve to die
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>>83388783
LMAO. You seem upset.
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>>83388758
>nu devs abstract everything away for no reason making the codebase unreadable
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>>83392748
No, I think he was wrong. Tying an evolving software project to a vendor like that, amounts to taking on technical debt where the creditor has future leverage over the entire operation.
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>>83388783
> nothing but snake oil salesman
> dominates electric car market
> dominates space industry

take your meds anon
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>>83389524
I guess Google are scammers because they have 1000s of projects in the graveyard.

You are a retard. 90% of projects fail. It's the 10% that matters and Musk has more than one major success.
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>>83394042
This. I bet Musk's code was more efficient, and none of their "future-proof code" even exists today because PayPal was rewritten from scratch 10 times anyway.
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>>83388758
>trap for self taught
Only because huge corporations forcing codemonkeys to work on code nobody has any idea what it does exist.
Musk never needed to write code for a company and he actually made it, unlike majority of codemonkeys who couldn't even teach themselves if they wanted to.
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>>83394212
enh, idk about that, if they only needed a fraction of the LoC even with abstracting everything then Musk's code must have been real shit
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>>83394098
Yes, Musk only fucked up by picking the wrong people to work for him, his ideas were solid. Hence why people like Thiel never got as far, they are emotional crybabies that put emotion over function.
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>>83394327
Levchin* I meant, not Thiel
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>>83394315
>more lines of code = bad
The highest performance software has code to optimize for specific hardware. Generic and imported solutions cannot compete.
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>>83391948
Exactly

>>83391210
>all the inventions are stolen from the previous advanced civilization.
I believe it.

>>83389823
Read Bill Cooper's book then watch how he interacts with other people. It becomes obvious once you know what to look for.
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Would you like a flamethrower? We're out of hats.
>Seems like a pretty cool guy to me.
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>>83394134
He didn't found Tesla, just came in to bank roll it with the money he made by spending his inherited wealth on Paypal stock on the cheap in the dotcom crash.
He didn't design the rockets, the talented engineers he pays do.
He's was a idiot millionaire who lucked into being a billionaire by betting on the right stock, but keep worshipping his cock you peon.
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>>83394327
>emotion over function
retarded
>>83394352
steve jobs chose bsd and unix to develop osx from, so they wouldn't be anyone else's bitch down the line
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>>83394419
>Would you like a flamethrower? We're out of hats.
>>Seems like a pretty cool guy to me.
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>>83394362
Beginner detected. How’s that python scripting coming along?
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>>83393521
he's not uncomfortable he's just dubitative
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>>83394894
Python is the perfect example of my point. 1 line of code to make a Hello world that needs 7 MB of RAM to run

Theoretically you could also use Python to create native code and still keep the multiplatform aspect by optimizing for each operating system. Dozens of lines of code but runs 10 times better.

But you told me fewer lines = good?
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>>83394170
>Google asked customers to put up $50k for a product they never delivered

Okay buddy retard
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>>83394964
>Google asked customers to put up $50k for a product they never delivered
Where is Resident Evil for Stadia? How much money did they make from Stadia thanks to that vaporware announcement?
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>>83394993
It was Silent Hill exclusive for Stadia
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>>83388758
that's what hires are for. when you're this powerful you can't be bothered with such things. it's good to code at your leisure
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>>83388758
>ELON MUSK WAS A CODELET!
do you understand that programming is the ultimate tinker job? tinkering is sad and pathetic, programmers are losers, musk clearly isn't a loser, but you are, anon
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>>83394042
have you considered that rather than the code being "unreadable" you're just too retarded to understand it?
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>>83395037
>programming is the ultimate tinker job?
Just import all your solutions lmoa
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>>83395069
performance is objective, readability isn't
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>>83395069
yeah don't worry bro, everything may be 8 namespaces deep, inheriting from 3 different classes, broken up into generic factory objects and implementation files but I swear it's far more readable
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>>83394929
He had more locs not because he optimized but because he can’t solve problems efficiently in code. The common problem of self taught devs is that they know nothing about the underlying hardware and good code design principles.
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>>83395037
>it’s like solving tiny logic puzzles!
>it’s pure problem solving
>copy pasted solutions from google
Redditors out
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>>83388758
everone who works with physicists on a software project knows they are all like that
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>>83388758
>self-taught can't into programming example #1289217218743234
nothing new under the sun, the rule stills holds
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>>83388758
Is anybody actually surprised by this? He's a businessman, much like Jobs. I don't know why you would trust anything he says.
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>>83388758
Why do people have so hard time understanding the simple word "capitalism"?
In that system your merit is the amount of capital you own.
Not the skills you have.
Media raving about how smart billionaires are is just PR targeted to the poor people.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>83395387
He's right.
Programming is engineering.
The more sophisticated and "by the book" it is the more boring it gets.
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>>83396396
Oh, and that's why good programmers are paid so well - it's a repetitive, boring and mundane (yet still mentally taxing) work.
It's no fun whatsoever.
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>>83388758
>classic self-taught coder trap
as if self-taught coders are in general somehow inferior to those who studied it in a school
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>>83388783
Worse than the musk shills are you nerds obessed with musk. Get a life!
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>>83388783
teslatoddlers BTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>83394134
>dominates electric car market
What electric car market?
>dominates space industry
Lmao you must be cucked out of your simple feeble Musk-worshipping mind. SpaceX at this point is just a contractor. NASA is the one sending rovers and helicopters to Mars and involved in all these numerous big-budget cool projects like their participation in the International Space Station. So Musk lied about "disrupting" the space industry by cutting launch costs by X% or whatever percentage he pulls out of his ass, launched a car into orbit, and replicated the DC-X self-landing rocket which happened over 30 years ago. If you Muskcels think this is "domination" it's no wonder you idiots get bamboozled time after time after time after time by the King of Vaporware.
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>>83389061
i will gladly steal vidya terminology
META = Most Effective Tactic Available
it's a great word
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>>83388758
Fucking hell, that sounds like my boss. He just shits out incomprehensible spaghetti at an astounding rate and uses copypaste liberally. As a result the codebase is complete cement shit with bugs everywhere. And he just keeps on doing it. Everyone on dev team thinks he should just stop but well he's the boss and by now the only person with even vague understanding of how it works. 82K QUALITY ERRORS IN 300K LINE CODE.
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>>83397608
he should switch to Ada it literally wouldn't be possible, the compiler would never let him get away with it
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>>83389820
When I was 13 I programmed a game where you turn into a horse and rape girls in my school using visual basic 4.0 (pirated).
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>>83397648
Oh oh and if he writes a comment it's redundant waste of space like
// returns the list
return list;

WHAT IS IN THE LIST???? IS IT ORDERED?? YOU FUCKING DOUBLE NIGGER!!!! and he be like "well you can see it from code" pointing to the 168 LOC method he shat out half copypasting it to random place.
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>>83397670
based
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>>83397608
run a linter on it and just batch clean them up
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>>83395037
>tinkering is sad and pathetic
WHAT did you just say?
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>>83397608
>chad tech lead making virgin juniors clean up his code smells
B A S E D
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>>83388783
He wrote commercial software
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>>83397910
So? Do you think proprietary commercial software is actually well written? Why the fuck would it be, it just needs to hit the bare minimum of merely working.
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>>83397935
Still means he was a programmer (even if not very good)
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>>83394929
>7MB of memory to print a line of text
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>>83388758
>guy cant do something learnable in an afternoon
>HAHAHA

what
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>>83394170
How many of those projects did the users put 50k down on?
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>>83388758
I've always suspected Bill Gates is too. I'd be surprised if he knew how to hello world.

Elon Musk is a literal nobody whose aggressively taken over every company he's invested in and taken the credit as a genius as if he was the line planner
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>>83388758
>>83388783
How do I shill myself with a similar image to him to boomers/billionaires pls?
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>>83388758
A students ALWAYS end up working for C students.
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>>83388886
Hiler spend most of his life in abject poverty.
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>hah! I spin the human hamster wheel better than the boss!
Yeah that's why he's the boss and you're the code monkey
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IT'S THE HECKIN SCIENCE GUY
TESLA IS SO AWESOME
HE POSTS MEMES HE'S ONE OF US
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>>83394582
He promoted it into a big thing. This is what businessmen do.
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related
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>>83400160
>>83388758
so basically billionaires code like chads, while the incels that never became rich care about best practices, lmao
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>>83400160
thats a chad move
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>I can code better than you
Vs
>I have more money than god and can do what i want.
I am sure he is crying about coding experience not being on his Resume.
The line above is sarcasm you autistic fuck.
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Every coder thinks they are the best software engineer in the world and enjoys shitting on others yet maybe only 1/100 actually has accomplished anything of note. It's worse in engineering, specifically SE and ECE, than in any other field.

Since everyone is a fraud that's why SE jobs have 20 hours of interviews just to get hired now. Everyone just lies and lies until they collapse under their own weight.
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>>83397394
DC-X is not in the same class as a F9. Not remotely. SpaceX dominates the launch market, and they're outcompeting lockheed martin, boeing, CNSA, ISRO, and ArianeSpace. Are 2 of the largest government space administrations, and 3 of the largest aerospace corps in the world also vaporware?
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>>83388758
someone (not a programmer) at work once told me that steve jobs is genius god-like level programmer and bill gates is a n00b programmer.
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>>83388758
Well getting the bare knuckles is what a rocket/auto manufacturer should do.
You don't expect him to have the details down pack. That's why he employs people.

The problem is more when he doesn't even contemplate this, like with CEOs of other industries.
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>>83388758
He is still richer than you
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>>83388758
>what developers call hairballs
Nobody calls it that
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>>83389808
reminder that space is useless and caring about a dried up planet is moronic
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>>83394212
paypal now is even shittier than paypal 10 years ago, lol
especially their new crappy gui where even history of purchases is removed
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I helped maintain an asp.net website for work, and a couple times a week, the production instance would stop being able to connect to a backend inventory server's API, with a bunch of SSL errors. And we could only fix it by rebooting the affected webservers.
Eventually I discovered that the code inside paypal's dll that we used for payment shit would molest the global TLS settings whenever a user went through the cart checkout.
Fuck paypal.
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>>83400160
Wew who knew that just getting shit done makes you gorillionaire. Virgin compsci fags eternally btfo
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>>83400179
>>83400193
Basically. They recognize it's a tool to accomplish a goal. Not an art form to attach his identity to.
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>>83401234
was gonna say that. I have never heard that ever.
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>>83401127
That's probably a hill they'd die on as well. Some people are just fucking retarded.
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>>83394929
Tell me how I know you aren't an accomplished engineer

Who cares about printing a line. You'll never do so in real life unless you're useless and still learning how to code and care about such things. Real engineers compare performance on realistic terms.

Instagram runs on python.
Go ahead and tell me they're wrong and you're so much more intelligent.
Retard
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>>83397608
Clean it up, codie
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>>83392657
Based Elon BTFO'ing freetards since 2000
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Mf still sold his company to compaq for 300 million. How can I trick these rich plebs to pay millions for my stuffs?
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>>83388758
He's an investor, not an engineer.
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>>83388816
>twitter
consooom harder faggot
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>>83388827
> Teaches himself how to code
> Becomes a giga billionaire

Seethe academics
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>>83388758
As a self-taught myself this is why I had to step back from the "bro, just do it" mentality. I realized most of my code was just a mess of for loops and if conditions. Now I'm learning about algorithms and data structures and it is very interesting, I think it will help me create better solutions.
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>>83405200
>> Teaches himself how to code
>> Becomes a giga billionaire
>Seethe academics
yea because his rockets and cars were just
>coooooooded
into existence. had nothing to do with the teams of engineers and man hours spent trying to research that shit. nope it was all elon just coooooooooding. cope harder brainlet
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It was good enough to sustain his business before he hired people better than him.
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>It was good enough to sustain his business before he hired people better than him.
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>>83388894
big question, if you're the worker who actually did the work in university and you really, really, know your shit, how do you present like that so that employers and other people can differentiate you from the boot camp kiddies? especially if you do something obscure like embedded

I got a new job recently and it's all well and good, it pays, I get to work remote, and I knew what I was getting into when the company didn't even give a coding test in the interview process, but it seems like companies or job postings where they do actual interesting work aren't interested in me because I don't "look" the part
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>le wojak bot
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>>83388758
Sounds like someone from /g/. Musk's strength is probably more having many different talents, creativity and a good sense of business. Also if I was in a position where I just have to implement a prototype and then have a ton of employees to optimize it for me I'd probably write sloppy code too because it saves time and someone else can fix it.



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