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>tfw in the 00s Anonymous and other hacker groups were about fighting corporations and messing with cookie cults
>tfw in the 20s is all about attacking registars who stay neutral and do not follow the policies of the government or major corporations
The fuck happened /g/?
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>>83381717
Everything got derailed.
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“Anonymous” never existed as a group and the people who thought it did were giant faggots.

Now those giant faggots are doing giant faggot things. Who would’ve guessed?
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Its crazy how Defcon required a vaccine passport to get in lol. Literally need a government id to enter a fucking hacker con.
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>>83381740
Also the "Anonymous" people on reddit were never smart or noble. Remember when the doxxed the wrong guy for the Boston bomber?
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>>83381754
That's why I skipped it this year. The double speak is getting hard to handle desu
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>>83381740
spbp /thread
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>>83381717
Anonymous never existed you moron, it's just state sponsored hackers
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>>83381754
Wouldnt it be in the spirit of defcon to come with hacked vaccine passports?
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>>83381717
Because its not random hacker groups but Jews from ADL working with FBI and NSA
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>>83381805
Sure but that'd be unethical or whatever the fuck excuse they'd come up with if someone actually did that.
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its a lot harder than it used to be and you have to be way more careful
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>>83381805
>hacked
just decompile the apk and make it always pretend that passport is active, with realistic dates and shit, that's not even hacking at this point, just finding correct line to put x = y in the code
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>>83381717
they got caught and the FBI told them, you work for us now unless you want to go to prison and get raped by AIDS-ridden negros.
So, now they hack whoever the govt doesn't like
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>>83381717
You fell for the oldest trick in the book:
>what gets them the most recognition/money/whatever happens to align with what I like, so they must be the good guys
Now that what gets them the most recognition/money/whatever has changed, you're hurt and confused.
Understand that there are no heroes.
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>>83381717
They got old, fighting corporations and shit is great in your 20s but that shit gets old when you have a house and family to suffer with. It's the same trend where super liberal commies become conservative when they're older.

I mean shit some of anonymous biggest shit was what 10 years ago now? Hell even Occupy Wall Street is 10 years old now.
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>>83381717
>>83381754
I always thought we can rely on free-thinking hackers but I'm not sure about this anymore and it's perhaps the most depressive thing I can think of because I will never be smart and tech-savvy enough to take on governments and big corporations.
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>>83382040
free thinking hackers know that they should do what's profitable and dip
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>>83381717
The same thing that happens to anything.

It's because the original intent gets corrupted by identity politics and social hierarchy games.
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>>83382324
forgot the picture
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>>83381717
>in the 00s Anonymous and other hacker groups were about fighting corporations and messing with cookie cults
and here's a comprehensive list of their achievements:
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>>83382349
"Fighting corporations" is not just a hobby tho.
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>>83382375
The idea still stands.
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>>83382384
it doesn't
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>>83382324
that would never happen to any of my own projects
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>>83382375
It is, only NEETs care about things like that
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>>83382419
It does tho. You're just not wanting to see it.
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>>83381717
>Law 2. Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.
Robert Conquest was massively ahead of his time.
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>>83382719
>sooner or later
always was, all propaganda and muh appeal to feefee is leftard bullshit
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>>83381717
theres always anarchists, anon, but now money is a thing so there's competition.
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>>83382746
Anyone who call themselves anarchists but support deplatforming and other shit the Globohomo elite supports is no Anarchist to me.
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>tfw in the 20s is all about attacking registars who stay neutral
>literal right wing schizo and terrorist garbage including how to make bombs hosted, as well as revenge and child porn.
>neutral
Kys rightard
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>>83382734
True. It's just defending the status quo now instead of attacking it, because they got the status quo they wanted.
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>>83382757
well first
>muh platforms
secondly agitating both sides against each other is legit as shit.
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>>83381740
Spbp
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>>83382774
>you shouldn't know how to make a bomb, only we are allowed to carpet bomb children okay?
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>>83382803
>>you shouldn't know how to make a bomb
No. You shouldn’t.
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>>83382774
>leftist anarchists spend 60 years distrubuting bomb-making literature, but it's no biggie
>rightists do it and it's suddenly a big fucking deal
I'm not sure who the real anarchists are anymore.
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>>83382823
Too bad I do, and I made more than several dozen throughout my life
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>>83382824
its only bad when nigger haters do it
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>>83382824
>distributing literature
also bombing things, lefty terrorism was all the rage for a while
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>>83382832
Die terrorist chud.
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>>83382866
>could be send to jail for a though
Is it only China and USA thing?
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>>83382866
I have a blast mine but sure tranny
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>>83382866
When the pendulum swings back to the right you trannies will get the rope.
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>>83382845
Good thing I only hate commies then :-)

>>83382858
Yes, but lefties will argue that their groups didn't do anything wrong because most of them were let off on technicalities, and I don't feel like having that debate right now.
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>>83381740
trufax. No one who claimed to be part of an anonymous group/movement was anonymous, and like any group founded on a flawed premise, identity politics did the rest.
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>>83382944
commies would send the baboons to gulag mines first
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>>83381740
They do, we are Anonymous on 4chan
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>>83382944
everyone else thinks this thread is for debate. bombs are cool and governments are shit. simple as.
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>>83382986
Based.
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>>83381717
democrats are fascists under the disguise of anti-racism
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>>83382944
The name of the game is "it's ok when we do it". Not that there's anything wrong with saying that, it's just how it goes.
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>>83383131
That part about them fucking children while telling me that lolis are bad is pretty annoying.
When pendulum swings back we'll get their kids and set lolis free
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>>83382866
>knowing how to make a bomb is a crime in burgerland
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>>83383330
nah lots of explosives dont even need any sorts of license or tracking or nothing
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>>83382823
Fuck you bootlicker.
Live free or die.
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>>83382866
Announcing reports is a bannable offense you absolute retard.
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BASED
Anonymous fighting the government
FUCK TEXAS
FUCK TEXANS
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>>83381740
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>>83382783
>secondly agitating both sides against each other is legit as shit.
Lol no ones doing that, these fags just LARP as “anarchists” when they’re really just neo-liberals going through a punk phase. Imagine thinking an actual anarchist would ever support a vaccine mandate from the government/corporations, or any “mandate” lol
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>>83383390
Lol thanks for the tip, anon. The best part is the retard tranny literally saw the option while reporting haha
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>>83382824
The same people who supported the Weatherman Underground and Black Panthers are the people crying about "right wing extremism" and domestic terrorism today. There are no real "anarchists," anarchists were just the vanguard to communism in the 20th century and the vanguard to globohomo in the 21st century.
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>>83383636
Anarchism is one of those things that remind me of nihilism.
Retards sperg out a lot about it but in the end just show that they don't actually understand it
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>>83383330
Someone in Britain was just sentence to jail for having a pdf of the Anarchists cookbook. I don't know who deserves the title of "Cuck Island" more, Britain or Australia.
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>>83381754
it's a totally corporate event now. CCC is probably better but it wouldn't surprise me if they required covid passports also being germanics and all.
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>>83381717
anon, you've picked a very deep topic. Security is way better than it was 20 years ago which is killing the original hacker ethos which gives rise to talentless complainers who go after registrars. so much to say on this topic.
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>>83383702
North America is a definition of a cuck island
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>>83383702
no. he was arrested for doing other crimes the book was probably not even involved in sentencing. same as everything.
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>>83383330
It's not, the tranny is just seething
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>>83381825
Ethical hacking is such a meme. "Hackers" dox boomers on Gab or Parler for the SPLC and Bellingcat while never touching billion dollar corporations.

I swear everyone on hacker or infosec Twitter is a fed at this point.
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>>83383795
no, but they are on twitter and so their personal opinions should be completely discarded.
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>>83383795
why does that make ethical hacking a meme? an ethical hacker is basically paid to find issues for corporations.
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>>83383795
I hate that boomer companies like Gab and Parler refuse to engage with white hats to try to fix their security issues.
The issues they had were so easily exploitable they must have a full retard dev team.
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>>83381717
She’s chubby AF IRL and eats way too many carbs. She uses angles to her advantage.
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>>83383826
People on the right are highly distrustful of outsiders, because everything they do and say is picked over with a microscope by every institutional power. Means a lot of competent people get overlooked because they’re just not trustworthy enough.
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>>83383810
>working for corporation
unethical
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>>83383932
If you were truly competent I wouldn't have issues trusting you
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>>83381740
/thread
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>>83382419
>he doesn't know
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>>83384023
alright you got me with that one.
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>>83383705
CCC is probably worse, they've always been pozzed up to the eyeballs.
trans and communists everywhere.
preferring obvious shit talks because woman speaker, that sort of thing.
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>>83384038
It’s not about trusting their work, it’s about trusting them not to be rats or moles.
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>>83381717
you got to enjoy the brief period when a piece of new technology was cool and fun. Just like the early decades of cars or film.

Honeymoon's over. Time to go back to the real world.
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>>83384146
Again, competent people aren't rats or moles
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>>83381717
corposhills
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>>83384147
The cool and edgy technology right now would be 3d printers and especially 3d guns. "Hacking culture" is lame now and filled with commies and feds.
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>>83381717
Remember: raiding is banned here now, it didn't used to be. It's pretty lame, kinda sterilized 4chan. Take it up with chinkmoot and his jannies.
Groupthink anons are reddit, happened after Chanology. Not 4chan, they operate offsite thank fuck. Their faggotry isn't welcome.
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>>83384215
nah that shits facially retarded and always has been pure media invented moral panic stuff
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>>83384159
Based retard
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>>83381717
Fluoride, vaccines and mass media unironically brainwashed the masses into consumerism. Now people think corporations love them. We will never recover.
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>>83384422
>y-you're retarded
a fake faggot is going to slip, its pretty easy to test, by simply providing wrong information that was discussed before with actually trusted members.
3 tier trust system of
newfaggot -> newfaggot "trusted" -> trusted can weed out even dedicated autists.
Tell them that as a newfag, they need to pass a trust test over certain period, which is just some bullshit phase to let them get familiarised while not giving any sensitive info and doing nothing in general
Once its up, you tell them that they pass (kinda same way you tell your trans friend that they pass), that's where you start giving them information, which is actually fake, and you simply observe what you do with results
3rd phase is never announced to the newfag, as he thinks there's 2, while there's actually 4
>inb4 what's 4th
I'll tell you later newfag
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>>83384506
you should use a tripcode
so I can filter your drivel
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>>83384506
You don’t get how leftoid moles work. They have no problem just making shit up, simply to slander the person or business in question. Just getting hired grants enough validity to any claim they make that it would put that group in a quagmire of bad PR for weeks. Media leaps at the opportunity to “expose” some business for being wignat wrongthinkers that they can sic legions of retard virtue signallers on. Truth is irrelevant, and clearances are irrelevant. It could be an intern that worked there for 4 days, who then goes to CNN with some expose. That’s all it takes these days.
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>>83384664
>getting hired
we're talking about a group of people that would put against the wall every single CNN Jew without thinking twice, if they could.
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>>83382866
based troon
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>>83381770
Sam Hyde? He's evil
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the entire infosec sector is top clown world. a bunch of deluded mentally ill passive aggressive egos who cosplay as anarchist hackers, whilst telling others what is right or wrong and enjoying being on big corps payroll. sickening and disgusting.
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>>83383543
LARPers!
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>>83384403
Literally a fed/Jew, he was rallying against Assad and shilling for intervention in Syria.
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people who pride themselves in hacking and attach themselves to questionable political movements are 9 times out of 10 feds. don't trust them.
>>83383810
it's the people who took "ethical" to mean "current day american politics" instead of security work for companies that make it a meme, if that makes sense.
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>>83383702
>Anarchists cookbook
More like AnarchDUDS Cookbook. Save your money and don't follow anything it says, the guy who wrote it was a gullible ass teenager who wrote down rumors and what made sense. He even lists Bananadine as a drug you could make.
There was a collaborative effort to make a more valid Anarchist's Cookbook by people on the internet some time ago, I don't know how that went but even something like that, made by random people on the internet, has more credibility than some pre-Internet American teenager swept up by the times and given voice.
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>>83385154
that's the fun of the cookbook, anon. if you want an actually useful terrorist handbook all of the USGov publications are public domain
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>>83382930
>le pendulum
Doesn't exist. History marches leftward. Leftism is quite literally the sociological equivalent to entropy or death: you can't fight it.
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>>83382866
>announcing a report
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>>83385287
>history marches leftward
Except for all the parts where it doesn't.
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>>83381754
Yeah because hackers are totally about whether or not public health is up to some hacker's opinions on the government or government IDs.
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>>83382349
What failsafes can prevent this degradation?
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>>83385374
becoming trans
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>>83385354
Name five. If you say NatSoc Germany I will laugh.
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>>83385374
/pol/ unironically. Just watch how much it makes all those undesirables seethe. And also how much it takes their time and effort to "combat it."
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>>83385374
None, the hobby doesn't belong to you and the fact that you wanted to share it in the first place indicates that you want outside opinions to have a say.

There's going to be some contrarian bullshit about "but I didn't want to share it" but you really did. This really boils down to you not understanding that social situations are governed by society.
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>>83385397
>Reaganomics
>Tatcher
>Hungary currently
>Islamization of former liberal nations in the ME

also
>If you say NatSoc Germany I will laugh
dont_say_4_though_I_want_a_real_answer.jpeg
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>>83385430
None of these are good examples. Especially the part where you ran out of examples so you resorted to Hitler anyway even though he's the biggest example in modern world history of history moving to the left.
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>>83385451
>None of these are good examples.
you are embarassing
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>>83385374
Cunnyposting has been the most effective deterant.
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>>83385458
None of these are good examples. Especially the part where you ran out of examples so you resorted to Hitler anyway even though he's the biggest example in modern world history of history moving to the left.
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>>83385459
this. it makes every single newfag and tourist seethe
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>>83385397
If we characterize leftism as a tendency towards global economic equality:
>the fall of the soviet union
>the rise of the Roman Empire
>the entire middle ages
>the entire age of sail
>the gilded age in the US (1880-1910 or so)
All resulted in massive transfer of wealth to the existing ruling class.

If we characterize it as a tendency towards "progressivism" instead:
>the rise of islam
>the middle ages
>the age of sail
All resulted in a major loss of human rights for a wide variety of people.
So only rougly 2/3 of recorded European, American and Middle Eastern history.
In fact, name five times where leftist reforms lasted more than 100 years. Hard mode: no slavery.
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>>83385481
None of this is true, either. You're just shooting out factoids like "global economic equality" as standards as though that means anything. The right talks about stuff like that way more often in the first place, that's definitely not a leftist ideology.
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>>83385521
>Marxism, an ideology built around minimizing economic inequality and preventing class divisions, is not a leftist ideology
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>>83385540
I dunno, dude, the left never talks about what you're talking about. It only seems to come up when you bring it up uninvited. Weird.

Like, look at the left talk about Afghanistan right now. Economic equality doesn't come up at all. It's stuff like women being barred from playing sports and the like.
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>>83385565
So you're talking about progressives, not leftists. There's a major difference; they sometimes overlap (AoC is a bit of both) but in the US true leftists largely don't exist.
I gave you 3 examples for progressives, and I can give you far more.
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>>83382970
>we
I know you're a newfag
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You're a zoomer faggot, OP. There was no "Anonymous" as a unified collective in the 00s. We were just a bunch of teenagers posting trash to make each other laugh. Stop rewriting history, you little cunt.
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>>83385481
>this modern political idea created during the specific context of a specific power struggle between a vestigial class and a newer class is somehow applicable to all of human history
the absolute state of STEMtards. no serious historian would apply the concept of the left-right spectrum to anything pre-1789. at most they would compare these modern ideas to ancient ones
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>>83382866
>iphone filename
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>>83385593
>So you're talking about progressives, not leftists
No, and I didn't read the rest of your post. I have, for the third time now, pointed out that you're just bringing up shit because it's convenient for you (which is weird. I wonder who could be behind these posts if your only goal is to stuff words in other people's mouths repeatedly. Hmmm). And then we get to the next part where your opinion falls apart despite you putting so much effort into it once the cornerstone of your post, the words you're stuffing, are no longer relevant.
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For a second, I thought I was in /pol/. A thread died for this cesspool. What the fuck happened /g/?

Install gentoo
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>>83385654
>/pol/
no, /g/ is /v/ now
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>>83385614
That's the point I'm trying to make. Saying "history marches left" is retarded because the entire concept of modern leftism doesn't exist before the French Revolution. Saying "the last 200 years of history marches left" is more accurate, but still retarded. A lot of progressive and leftist reforms weren't permanent, and globally more wealth has been concentrated in the hands of the elite since 1789 than before it.

>>83385621
Then tell me, what do leftists believe? I was originally operating off of the principles of European left-wing parties, but you said those didn't apply. So what do you think leftists believe, if the European left isn't leftist?
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>>83385662
>Then tell me, what do leftists believe?
Nobody has to. You volunteered some obvious bullshit, that's all the conversation has to include to conclude it.
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>>83385661
>/v/
Since when did those mouth breathing toddlers learn words like "leftism", "Marxism", or even "read"?

What is /v/ now?
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>>83385696
/v/ has been worksafe /b/ since June 2006, anon.
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>>83385666
>history marches left because when it doesn't I change the definition of leftism
Nice b8 m8. I'll stick to the academic definition of left wing politics though.
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>>83385696
probably just quoting a cawadoody
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>>83385709
You'll just stuff words into people's mouths and then get mad when it doesn't work.
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>>83385696
Unironically 2014, when Gamergate happened
>t. was there
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>>83385741
lol no? The whole contrarian right wing movement was well alive on /v/ back when original /new/ was still on 4chan, /v/ was basically the second board where they colonized.
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>>83385754
this is 2nd+ zoomer copycat wave for sure
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>>83385777
zoomers were the final nail in the coffin for 4chan. Generation of brainwashed little worms that ate what was left alive.
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>>83385733
I don't think I'm the one stuffing words into people's mouths.
>"[left wing politcs] claims that human development flourishes only when excessive differences in status, power, and wealth are eliminated."
>Prof Barry Clark in Political Economy: A Comparative Approach
I'll trust a professor of political science over a random anon.
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>>83385800
>I don't think I'm the one stuffing words into people's mouths.
Then read any post you've made.
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since we're off topic
Whats up with that infrastructure bill?
3 trillion?
Are you serious?
How is that money going to be spread across states?
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>>83385797
eh, if there were few enough to properly immerse themselves in the culture they'd probably be as welcome as anyone. just too popular for that now, too much FBI and google filtering posts.
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>>83385818
The posts where I cite the academic definition of leftism? How does citing the formal definition of an ideology put words in someones mouth?
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>>83385831
I didn't read your post, everyone can clearly see the part where you said
>[I'm a faggot I'm wrong]
in greentext after stuffing words in peoples mouths for an hour or so.

You've been debunked, mate, how's that feel? It clearly bothers you, since you're still trying to invent replies.
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>>83385844
I ain't mad m8, I'm just glad I'm in academia (and STEM at that). People actually have an idea of what words mean, and don't change their definitions to weasel out when debunked. At least I only have to deal with people like you online.
You're still replying too, so you're clearly as invested as I am.
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>>83385884
>People actually have an idea of what words mean
Yeah it means what people say is what they mean, whereas you have done nothing but stuff words in other people's mouths.

And this clearly bothers you when it is pointed out.
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>>83385899
>what people say is what they mean
So if I repeat what those people say, I'm not putting words in their mouths.
It's pretty obvious you have no clue what leftism means and you're just scrambling to hide it.
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>>83385924
>So if I repeat what those people say, I'm not putting words in their mouths.
You've done none this, just word stuffing.

You've tried to define terms for other people, define what is academic, fell back on the faggotry of "if not my failed opinion, then you must provide an alternative argument" when none is required all in one conversation. You're the pure definition of "can't make an argument so stuff absurdism in someone's mouth".
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>>83381805
human life is a joke to you?
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>>83381717
they got cia-ed
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in 2006 limitless freedom expression in digital realm was the american democratic party talking point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP_3WnJ42kw

see i told u the dems are teh REAL racist!!
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>>83385402
IDK this seems like the approach Indian revolutionaries took when they asked the citizens to poo in the streets so all the major cities would stink and the british would come to hate living there..
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>>83385404
Then why are niche communities so comfy? I think there's a local maximum beyond which it becomes "cool" and the normies flood in.
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>>83381717
they were bought, simple as
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>>83386879
>normies
subhumans like you are ruining 4chan
>inb4 4chan is niche
then why do reddit tourists like (You) shit it up constantly?
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>>83381717
I decided to disconnect from the internet recently because of what OP talks of and more.
In the 90s and some early 2000s internet was fun and truly random, there were niche interests and in depth interests that were catered to.
With commercialization the collection of websites one used to visit either dissipated or couldn't compete for eyeballs and has shut down or been abandoned.
Then something else started happening, because there was so much money to be made from advertising EVERYONE jumped on the internet and flooded it with basic info sites that provided nothing more than wikipedia already provides but they make money and with that search became useless because all the good websites with good info vanished.
People have become conditioned to think social media is a good thing and useful (how?) along with mass adoption the internet becomes real life.
Add to all this the commoditization of sex, the proliferation of sex and its pervasiveness through out the internet and society basically means that its all about attracting bitches and nothing else matters. If you have trouble with fapping and attempt nofap, it is almost impossible without disconnecting from the internet because it is such a freaking casino you almost have no control over yourself.
So while the internet before was for the outcasts today the internet is for those who would call you an outcast back then.
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>>83387680
>In the 90s and some early 2000s internet was fun and truly random
Simply make people fun and truly random.
>there were niche interests and in depth interests that were catered to.
Simply gather niche people.
>collection of websites one used to visit either dissipated
Ads dried up.
>or couldn't compete for eyeballs
You don't need eyeballs, you need niche people. Or perhaps you want a couple normalfags sprinked in...?
>EVERYONE jumped on the internet and flooded it
There is no "it". Perhaps you're referring to google search results? Perhaps you're referring to hyperlinks?
>and with that search became useless
I knew it! Google is what you define as your... "internet".
>all the good websites with good info vanished
Just get people to bring them back again. What's the matter? No ad money? No eyeballs? No search results? Controlled atomized dummy. Get some links to your page.
>People have become conditioned
"People"? You mean the niche people who catered to deep interest??
>all about attracting bitches and nothing else matters
Normalfag problems.
>it is almost impossible without disconnecting from the internet because it is such a freaking casino you almost have no control over yourself.
You must not be a niche person.
>the internet before was for the outcasts
The internet was built by the outcasts, it wasn't built for them.
>today the internet is for those who would call you an outcast back then
"The internet" is a phantom. You want it, you make it.
Get some links and join a webring.

PLEASE refute me. I believe "the internet" dried up because the community models it ran on weren't elastic enough and couldn't gatekeep/sort normalfags to proper places enough. That and the attraction to the sweet honey that is convenient and centralized search results.
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>>83382774
There is nothing morally or legally wrong about sharing bomb making instructions.
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>>83385995
kys
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>>83383826
>dev team
Our dev team exists of 1.) a bunch of women who can’t code “project managing” 2.) some niggers as equity hires who have trouble using email and lack basic computer use skills 3.) a load of Pajeets who do half-ass lazy work that always comes in late and over budget. 4.) a few white guys who are over worked and clean up all the messes.
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>>83381717
The brilliance of ZOG is that they create false impression of who's in charge and make people conforming to the power structure feel like rebels fighting the powerful, when they're just attacking the enemies of the people actually in charge.
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>>83383826
What were their issues?
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>>83385287
leftism nearly completely died to liberalism
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>>83388374
Liberalism is the fake alternative to leftism the powers that be prop up in order to try to prevent it from gaining a foothold. The right is too dumb to understand this and screeches furiously about anything to the left of Ted Cruz.
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>>83388398
You have no idea what leftism is, yet continue to shill it. Disprove me by posting your definition. You won't.
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>>83388668
I really don't care what you think it is or isn't. If I wanted to argue over shit like that I would be on Twitter right now.
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>>83381717
The right can't netsec.

Too busy angry about trannies and vaccines.

Anyways, Epik wasn't neutral and the CEO is an open neo nazi.
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>>83388690
>doesn't define it
Genderqueer homofluid commietard strikes against reality again
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>>83388707
What's the point anon? Either you think seizing the means of production is a good idea and your boss should get the wall or you're desperately trying to prevent people from talking about such things. Endless arguing about what is and isn't in "left wing" spaces is what usually takes place instead and it suffocates the life out of it all.
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>>83381740
this
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>>83388731
The point is that you will never be a woman and your ideas only lead to poverty and self destruction
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>>83382349
>incels, the comic
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>>83385374
gatekeeping
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>>83382349
Name 3 (three).
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>>83385374
Being explicitly right wing
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>>83388756
That's fine because I never aspired to be a woman. My continued existence would make you rage regardless of what I chose to do. Poverty isn't an issue because I'm paid well for my work, at least something close to the value I create for my employer. I think you should be too even if I hate you.
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>>83388815
Then you're just immature, got it. See you in 10 years hanging commies together.
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>>83383932
>we can't trust this professional security consulting firm audit our security!
>it's probably fine, don't worry about it
Good old selective right-wing paranoia
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>>83388889
>t. left out
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>>83383705
Nah mate the CCC is a fucking goner too. Full of trannies and as the other guy said cherry picking shit talks because they're by a black lesbian toilet over actually interesting talks.
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>>83385995
OK Vaers denier.
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>>83383932
I'd be more afraid of you retards accidentally doxing me due to your already proven incompetence than you should be about me ratting you out but what to expect from a schizoid poltard.
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>>83381717
>>>/pol/
>>>/k/
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>>83381717
>registars who stay neutral
i chuckled
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>>83384102
>>83389848
there are so many tracks it's your own fault if you don't go to the actually interesting ones
>trans and communists everywhere.
boo hoo, i guess you need a safe space to keep you from getting triggered
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guess i deserve it for trusting the default runescape character. shouldve learned after i got scammed for my cannonballs
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>>83381740
well as I remember it, it was strictly a comedy/ironic thing that later became srsbzns
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>>83390280
just like /pol/ today
it's a giant larp but not everyone is aware that they are playing
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>>83390146
What the fuck kind of mental illness do you have going on there bucko and much more importantly why should I care exactly?
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>>83385356
wow, really?
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>>83385397
How do you define leftward or do you mean progressivism?
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>>83381740
it was just dudes dropping a LOIC download link in the OP on /b/ and designating a target for the lulz

I'd do it again desu it'd just be drowned in cuck FB/IG le WWYD le socials le BBC supremacy le gay stories?? le incest threads
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>>83390741
If you got into the /i/ boards it was a bit deeper than that. They kept banning us on /b/ so we had our own thing going at 7chan and 420chan.
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>>83388777
>>83385374
this, don't let people participate unless they're serious, make it invite only and don't be afraid to punish people who complain too much (criticism is important to fix errors and improve things, but excessive complaining is a sign this just suit that person in general, and changing things to suit anyone and everyone is how you destroy things)
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>>83385374
gutting women like fish
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>>83388776
I know right. I've seen it many times over the years. Nothing I've ever seen more correctly illustrates the incel persecution complex. That's not what they were going for.
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>>83390354
>being able to enjoy a tech conference without worrying about the other attendants political beliefs is a mental illness
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>>83390820
The only thing you're going to cut up is your own wrists after you read a /r9k/ post that finally convinces you it's time to end it all.
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>>83389889
>LET ME INNNNNN
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>>83390850
seethe harder beta male, go shave and launder your bedsheets, you reak
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>>83390869
>reeeeees at women and posts violent fantasies about cutting them up on 4channel.org
>calls someone else a beta male
lmao the audacity of this neutered yapping little lap dog. Your inferior genes shall not be passed on. You're a genetic dead end and I'm glad you're as angry as you are. It has to end somehow and all paths lead to you dying.
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>>83382783
People become more statist when they're scared. If you were really an anarchist you'd want people to feel safe. You'd want less violence.
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>>83390909
bet you felt smart and strong writing this

I'll let your daily life bring you back to where you belong
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>>83390932
Nice reddit spacing you worthless ball of rage and failure. If you knew what my daily life was like you would be even more of a little seethe machine than you already are.
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>>83390952
off-topic but I'll gut your daughter on her tenth birthday
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>>83390968
You aren't going to gut shit schizo. Whatever you do it either ends in death or the penal system lmao. Success isn't for you anon. Follow your dreams and what do you find? A man's dick penetrating your anus in a prison shower or a hasty suicide when you come to your senses and realize it's all that awaits you. You are nothing more than a genetic malfunction. The human equivalent of feces. It's too bad your mother shit you out of her cunt instead of having the sense to abort you.
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>>83381717
>The fuck happened /g/?
The left took over as no one opposed them when it was necessary.
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>>83390844
I don't give a fuck what they do in their free time the picked talks just are lower quality.
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>>83385967
Not him but pretty obvious you’re trying to weasel out of it he gave examples of rightward movements in history. Only a retard would claim history marches in any particular direction anyway because history isn’t over.
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>chanology
yep, cancer
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paradox of tolerance
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>>83391528
Well? What's in it?
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>>83391758
dolphins
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>>83381740
so 100 percent of 4chan isn't the alt right?
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>>83392279
No. Some of us are actually leftists.
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>>83392306
unfortunately, although the number does decrease.
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>>83381717
Sauce
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>>83381717
>Anonymous and other hacker groups were about fighting corporations
Bullshit.
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>>83391356
Pure cancer indeed. Much like Gamergate. It's done nothing but make narcissists come out of the woodwork stroke their egos and then look like giant lolcows in the long run because like always the movements are about THEM not about the movements themselves or caring for anyone elses culture.
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>>83390328
Unfortunately accurate. It's a fake game that no one is winning but people use to benefit themselves with the larp.
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>>83382930
Mate they give the rope to themselves.
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>>83385995
Only yours.
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>>83382349
This is more a reference to social dynamics - any one thing that exists for period of time goes through those stages. The name sticks, but the core is removed.

>>83385374
Do not invite new people, or filter them somehow. Take a look at organizations that stay in power over centuries. Any political structure in the west, religious structures/cults. For example it takes a long time to even become an archbishop. And they go through a lot of filters. Same with politicians, if they're able to be bribed and are consensual with the leading party members over time. If you're not, you're not going to reach positions of power. Any group larger than 30 people that wants to retain its core values needs this system in place.
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>>83382324
>>83382349
The original intent of 4chan was based on an essay that said forums(which were popular back then believe it or not) could only attract small groups of losers because they had a registration process and displayed post count and date of joining next to a person's name.
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>>83388029
That's the deviousness of them. Whenever I tell people IRL about who truly run the roost their minds explode.
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>>83391356
Jesus fuck, this guy us pure Cancer. Like this nigga knows so little that he thinks that faggot Kirt was one of us. Kirt has always been a fag cuck.
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>>83394712
Well the fact that a fag like Francis became Pope is sign that even a rigid hierarchy can be subverted.
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>>83381843
they way they check the passport is by scanning a barcode through their official scanning app and the result must be linked with the governments database. You can even fake the barcode because they verification with official key would fail
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>>83395440
you cant* fake the barcode
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>tfw in the 00s Anonymous and other hacker groups were about fighting corporations and messing with cookie cults
Wrong, the actual Anonymous in the 2000s was a bunch of /b/tards pulling pranks like plastering gay porn on hacked Myspace accounts and making swastikas in Habbo Hotel. The idiots who fought >muh corporations and >muh scientology were always newfags.
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>>83388398
>>83388668
The death of leftism is actually rather new.
Somehow, a billionaire Republican (Donald Trump) ended up being more pro-worker than any Democrat in the last 50 years - running on things like immigration control and trying to end the outsourcing of jobs (and globalism) through tariffs.
This disrupted the precious Neolib/Neocon globalist+military industrialist uniparty - and thus they ramped up the propaganda into overdrive.
They made pro-worker, anti-globalist rhetoric "politically incorrect" and "racist" - taking over the Democratic party and purging the leftists and buying out leftism by planting grifters like AOC.
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>>83381717
The main idea with anonymous is that it could be anyone. And it is still any man. Its you your neighbor, that weird guy next door. The cashier at the grocer. It has become a recognized name that is being used to broadcast fascist propaganda. All the while working elements are not drawing attention. All as planned.

>>83395434
That's what most people seem to fail to see, the face of an organization is not the one pulling the strings. In this case, the cardinals have way more influence. The same way a president or the CEO of a company is not actually in total control. They are merely the face.
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>>83387840
You went beyond faggotry. I award you the title of Big Faggot.
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>>83385356
If you're being serious then you're a fucking retard.
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>>83391563
What does the state have to do with this? This was a vigilante action against a private service.
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>>83381754
you're a moron
it's an event with lots of people in an enclosed space, you should be vaxxed up AND wearing a mask just on principle
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>>83382349
the most funny and sad thing about this isn't that it says women are bad, it says that men who care about women in any way are bad
ergo anyone who believes this shitty comic is a massive faggot
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>>83387923
bullshit
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>>83383131
there's everything wrong with saying or thinking or acting on that you hypocritical doofus
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>>83383636
why would you oppose something that's good for you and the people you care about? it's like demanding your water not be filtered and cleaned before it gets to you
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>>83381754
Defcon bas been compromised for many years now. They slurp agency and bigcorp cock too much.
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>>83386879
>Then why are niche communities so comfy?
because you're an introvert and you don't want to be around lots of people, most people here are introverts, why do you think they do fucked up things like post child porn and advocate for Trump? they have little social structure telling them it's wrong and what they do have doesn't matter to them
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>>83385481
I think you're mixing up leftism and liberalism, lots of leftists are conservative, look at the Soviet Union
liberalism has massively changed over the years and has it's own pros and cons while leftist economic and political theory is pretty steady in what it advocates, ironically
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>>83387680
>People have become conditioned to think social media is a good thing and useful
Wow you're really deep in the rabbit hole.
People didn't have to be conditioned for anything. They participate in social media because they want to, and they want to because their friends are there- that's the purpose, it's right there in the name, you use it to be social.
If you don't like other people (and I really think you don't) then yeah it makes sense you wouldn't like social media.
Also people are more honest when they don't face in-person rejection so more stupid opinions and false statements of fact come out, like vaccines causing autism, so you're more likely to find out your friends and heroes are fucking morons or don't give a shit about the welfare of others, but I see that as a good thing on balance. You shouldn't be friends with or look up to morons or people who are not kind.
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>>83395620
fucking underage newfag election tourist closing down immigration isn't inherently good for the rest of us, and perhaps more importantly, he didn't do jack shit to actually accomplish that
yeah a bunch of people were sent back but most of them are still here and they'll remain here no matter who's in charge, and that dumb fucking wall will never be built
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>>83395620
also the right and conservatives have been stealing the language of the left and talking about helping the common man for decades, revealing how little you know
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Anyone remember when they threatened to unmask cartel members only for cartel members to turn it around, dox them and threaten their life?
I wasn't here yet but I read an article about it. I'm curious, was that real or a larp? Someone might have been kidnapped? Boomer media was pretty vague about it
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>>83385397
Turkey
Afghanistan
Iran
Morocco
Tunesia
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>>83396742
You can be in favor of something like vaccinations and still be against the government coercing their citizens to get one.
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>>83385397
Giuliani's cleanup of NYC in the 90s.
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>>83397224
No such thing.
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>>83381740
This. The most hilarious examples were the recent thing where a YOUTUBE VERIFIED "anonymous" channel threatened Musk and I don't know if anyone will remember it but some years back a bunch of dentistry students were on hot water because of some rape jokes and people claiming to be anonymous threatened the dean if he didn't throw them to the wolves.
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>>83396861
What you defined as liberalism I called progressivism. All of the time periods I mentioned for declining leftism (not the second progressive section) featured massive amounts of wealth concentrating into the hands of a small class of elites, which is pretty much the opposite of what economic leftists desire.
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>>83396967
Social media isn't really social though.
It is anti social, you are not interacting with people most of the time in fact most of the time you are avoiding real contact with people by being online.
Social media provides the illusion of a social interaction and connection nothing more.
The ills of social media are pervasive in society today, you would know this if you experienced a time before social media, it used to be people would gather together in person and hang out and actually socialize, now they primarily don't and just pretend to socialize online.
The primary goal of social media isn't even to be social it is to data mine people to turn them into a commodity to be sold to the highest bidder, which is why the most successful social media platforms use an algorithm to provide an endless stream of dopamine response reward mechanisms that are quick and easy to accomplish in rapid fire. It takes almost nothing to like or upvote but it feels like your voice has been heard and when you receive an upvote the dopamine response in your brain tells you you are successful and that people like you.
Using social media has demeaned people to act like lab rats so their life can be sold to special interest groups.
Other than the scam being based on providing false social interactions and the illusion of human contact how can we call "social" media anything other than antisocial.
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>>83397502
People said the same shit about talking on the phone not being "real socialization" once upon a time and they were wrong then just like you're wrong now.
You're also focusing on how these sites make their money rather than what they do, and you're pretending what they do is unique. Most sites sell your data, and before there were websites that did so lots of time and money was already spent figuring out who will buy what and how to get them to buy it, it was just more behind the scenes and running on more guesswork instead of hard data.
I have experienced a time before social media because I'm over 30, and I can tell you I socialize a lot more in person now than I ever did before because now I can find people that actually want to be around me.
I also dispute your claim of it being antisocial, it does not inherently discourage interaction, be it online or in person. I will admit that a lot of people feel their needs met by it and don't make the effort to do more, but is that actually a problem? If so, it's a problem of the human psyche being soft and easily appeased, not a problem of social media.
I would also reiterate the point you didn't address, that this is not some nefarious plot, people are engaging with these sites because they want to. As long as they want to, capitalism will provide them with a means to chat over text and like each other's posts and reply with emojis and all that. It's all at once impractical, uneconomical, and unethical to get in the way of what the people desire, so long as it doesn't cause physical destruction.
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>>83385374
>What failsafes can prevent this degradation?
There's no failsafes. You have to meticulously be aware of how social interactions take place and moderate them, which will eventually lead to either leading with an iron fist, or failing and the tihng happening anyway.

It's either that, or not allowing any influence into the system. Like, there's no one messing with actual real life physics, is there? Or in art, if you don't give a fuck about what people want, but create according to your vision, then your vision will be manifested.

This is why multi-culturalism, politics or any other kind of 'integrating' different kinds of conclusions, ideas and the products of minds usually never works. Science works because it's trying to uncover reality. Anything else is just bullshit.
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>>83388789

>Comic books, videogames, basically many forms of entertainment
>Social platforms (facebook, twitter, twitch, reddit), they all eventually become cesspools of people trying to use the platforms for climbing the hierarchy
>literal social institutions like universities

Your turn.
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>>83395269
I don't get it.
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>>83383543
>literally wearing a nintendo shirt
Hitler was right indeed
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>>83396569
this is what we would say in civilized countries, but sadly the right has brought the underlying stupidity to the forefront. They're saying the quiet part out loud.. the OTHER quiet part.
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>>83395620
oh my god you're so ignorant. The Democrats have never been leftist you mong. They were the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Any shift "left" was simply aesthetic. You should stay away from /pol/ and start reading Marxists.org's archive if you want to understand things better desu
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>>83381717
Cyberdefence is real and more sofisticated than we thought.

They don't do it with code monkeys and they don't need any spies. It is happening right here on imageboards and the general web by directing attention to ultimately meaningless shit.
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>>83381717
i "know" that girl, i follow her on ig
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It's hard for me to imagine the sort of people that made up, say, slashdot 20 years ago going full Commie. I just think that ethos of Gex X hacker is dwarfed by the millenials and zoomers to the point they don't culturally matter.
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>>83399378
I'm a millennial and my parents are gen x. I grew up on that version of the internet and I'm familiar with the mindset of people the same age as my parents. Very few of them had ambition or motivation outside of making money, putting food on their table. Many but not all of them are very passive and apathetic people. Things happen to them not because of them.
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>>83398659
>People said the same shit about talking on the phone not being "real socialization" once upon a time and they were wrong then just like you're wrong now.
Because you think that those people were wrong does not make me wrong.
>You're also focusing on how these sites make their money rather than what they do
I focus on it because that is their business, not creating a social platform, you are the product, if they could get money by eschewing the social interactions they would (and for the most part already have).
>I also dispute your claim of it being antisocial, it does not inherently discourage interaction
It does though, most people do not actually interact with people through social media they passively read something and like or upvote, that's not social interaction thats market research.
>is that actually a problem?
Yes, not my own personal problem but it is a societal problem, much like heroin addiction and alcoholism, on fact the problems created by social media are really similar to the problems associated with addiction.
>unethical to get in the way of what the people desire
I generally agree I didn't suggest we force people not to use social media, doing so would be meaningless they have to see the danger and know how bad it is for themselves.
>so long as it doesn't cause physical destruction.
That said social media is responsible for destruction but I'm not some hero and I don't care about the meaningless destruction of others, that is their problem not mine
>this is not some nefarious plot.
It is a part of the public record that facebook was designed the way it was specifically for social control, that the people involved knew exactly what they were doing and that they even experimented with affecting users mental state by altering their feeds.
Whether that counts as nefarious is up to you I suppose, as for me I am glad I am no longer affected by antisocial media.
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>>83392279
Alt-right was originally a term that the media coined to target politically independent people who unavoidably shared some opinions that went against the grain. Nobody was alt-right until edgy redditor types started unironically identifying with it. People seriously need to stop thinking in terms of isms before it's too late.
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>>83397210
>look as the rich urbanites that wore western fashion while living under dictatorship[s
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>>83382324
Sounds like firefox to me
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>>83398953
>noooooooooo you can't just put black people in video games that's political nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>83399092
the left and right are an issue.
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>>83395434
lmao catholics have always been shit so has any christcuck desu
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>>83381717
>thinking anonymoose was a real hacking group
Anon, you know that shit was just for the lulz, right? Anyone using that name now is 100% either a retard LARPing, or a fed.



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