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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR
Convenient lister: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
State budget and region

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: Athlon 3000G, Pentium G6400
Mid-range Multicore: R7 3700X, i7 10700/F
High-end Multicore: R9 5900X, R9 5950X
Budget Gaming: i3 10100/F
Mid-range Gaming: i5 10400/F
High-end Gaming: R5 5600X

>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVEL
Budget 1080p: Used RX 470/570 4GB
Mid-range 1080p: RTX 2060, RX 5600 XT
High-end 1080p : RTX 3060, RX 5700 XT
Mid-range 1440p: RTX 3060 Ti, RX 6700 XT
High-end 1440p/2160p: RTX 3080, RX 6800 XT

>RECOMMENDED RAM
Capacity: 2x8GB or 2x16GB
Speed and CAS Latency: 3200/3600MHz CL16
Beware: Some Intel motherboards (e.g. B460) are limited to lower speeds

>RECOMMENDED COOLERS
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
Basic Web Browsing: 400-450W
Gaming: 500-850W depending on GPU (aim for 50-75% at load)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
Standouts: WD SN550, Samsung 980 non-Pro
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARD INFO:
AM4 B550/X570 - CPU-less BIOS flash feature advisable if pairing with Zen 3
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=RzdbjX

Previous: >>82640318
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Intel is shit.
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>no 2070
nooooo you will trigger the monster
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how much could i sell my PC for?

MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming
evga 750w
i7 4770k
GTX 780ti
16gb ram
125mb SSD
1TB HDD
g710 keyboard
razer mouse

bought for $450 used off ebay. seems to have done the job.

could i get $300?
might sell to my sister for my nephew
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bought 3 years ago for $450*
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I think the parts I bought will arrive tomorrow. I've never assembled a PC before so I'm afraid of screwing up (as far as I've seen, the biggest risk is bending the processor pins).
I'm also in doubt whether to install Windows 10, since apparently Microsoft has already released Win11.
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>>82647271
You might be able to get the full $450 for it just because of the card shortage. 780Tis are going for $150 or so on ebay.
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>>82646820
>>82646846
so is it all about the ram height?
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>>82647152
>High-end 1440p/2160p: RTX 3080, RX 6800 XT
fake and gay OP where's the real autism
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>>82646938
bump
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>>82647465
might try $450 listing for a week

that would be wild to get my money back after 3 years.
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>>82647482
The /minimum/ distance from the CPU to the RAM is standardized. It's called the Keep Out Zone. Since fast RAM needs a short distance to the CPU for electrical reasons the maximum distance is also effectively standardized i.e. maximum = minimum.
The RAM height will be important if the CPU cooler hangs outside the Keep Out Zone. This only usually occurs with large air coolers like the D15. Very unlikely for a water block to violate the KoZ. If it does you likely have grounds for a refund since the parts are not obeying the manufacturer's standards.
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I don't want to join dumb discords just to get alerted for msrp cards reeeeeeee
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>>82647549
Way I see it:
CPU: $100
Mobo: $100 (may be hard to sell)
PSU: $50 (maybe keep this if it's a good one)
Card: $150
RAM: $50
SSD: $10
HDD: $20 (can keep this too?)
Peripherals: No idea. Keep these too if you like them.
That brings the total to about $450 if you part it out. More hassle but usually a better return if you're willing to wait.
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>>82647610
thanks for the breakdown

gonna give it some thought today
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How many ram do I need for my video game? I do not like to call attention,,, sometimes I lag, can new PC fix this??
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How many colors does my screne need for new game
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How many games can we fit on 15 inch laptop??
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Is buying a gaming laptop any viable now?
I need to constantly move between two places and having a mobile PC would help a lot.
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>>82648272
It's always been viable just a completely terrible value proposition compared to a desktop. Naturally you still trade portability for performance and don't expect to actually game when it's on battery power.
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good fan hub with awp/argb headers? also if the hub connects to the psu via sata cable does that mean its powered by the psu and not the mobo header?
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>>82648302
Nah i don't expect to game on fly. It's that i move between few places and stay for few days and all i have now is the shittiest laptop in existence and an outdates, 6 year old desktop PC.
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>>82647539
5 isn't bulk. You're not getting discounts.
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what's a good minimal server build with decent performance that's cheap and not a powerhog?
regular SBCs are too weak, and powerful SBCs are more expensive than a PC build.
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>>82647579
I did it and got a card for msrp. it's worth it.

>>82648272
build an ITX pc and keep a monitor, mouse and keyboard at each place.
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>>82648412
go ask /hsg/, they'll know more than us
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Gonna use a meshlicious for my next build.
Is it worth spending the extra for the pcie 4.0 version?
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>>82648427
for the pcie riser? no. the performance difference is around 2 to 3% for a 3080, so pretty much negligible.
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daily reminder that installing malware on your computer to save $3 is actually a smart thing to do
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>>82648493
Neat you've saved me some dosh anon.
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>>82648412
I take it you don't have an old PC lying around? That's usually the cheapest option. Failing that something like a 10100 would be a good start but you can certainly go cheaper. The other components are going to be dictated by your requirements.
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>>82648412
i just use paper and pen and a filling cabinet for all of my server needs
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*I need advice re: Electrostatic discharge (ESD)*

I'm about to build my first PC. All parts here and ready to go.

BUT

I can't get my head around the advice about ESD. There's so much conflicting advice, and it seems like most amounts to 'turn around three times clockwise and touch your head twice' type skitzo bullshit without any science behind it.


So the real options seem to be:

- Can I plug the PSU into the wall socket, turn off, and then simply touch it often? (i'm in Poland and the plug is 'type C' - Picrel - DOES THIS EVEN PROVIDE A GROUND?!)

- Should I touch the case instead?

- Should I put the PSU into the case, screw it in, plug it in, turn off and then couch the case often?


Halp /g/
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>>82648397
5 is a lot for a private purchase. Where else do you buy parts?
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>>82648715
I freaked out way too much about ESD during my first build too.
as long as you aren't running around your fuckin carpeted living room wearing socks it shouldn't even happen, but touching your case every once in a while is good enough if you want to be safe
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>>82648189
You can stack quite a few boxes on an 15 inch wide laptop, but for performance, i'd go with taking out the CD disks and stacking them on top of one another
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>>82648788
so just touching the bare case (no PSU but literally a heavy bit of metal) is fine?

It really feels like some OCD level stuff that is getting spouted on /r/buildapc (im not a redditor, its just what comes up in google when i search it)
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First build, is it any good?
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>>82648715
What sort of chinkshit do you have that the PSU cable doesn't have ground? Every normal PSU should have this.
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>>82648715
>Can I plug the PSU into the wall socket, turn off, and then simply touch it often? (i'm in Poland and the plug is 'type C' - Picrel - DOES THIS EVEN PROVIDE A GROUND?!)
Yes. I think those sort of plugs "ground" off the neutral. It'd be worth reading up on your local code, however.

>Should I touch the case instead?
This won't do much.

>Should I put the PSU into the case, screw it in, plug it in, turn off and then couch the case often?
This will work but might make assembly more difficult if you have a modular PSU and don't know what cables you need.

If you're paranoid, buy a real antistatic wrist strap (the kind that plug in).
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>>82648834
no its the type-C electrical plug that I'm worried about

note: i'm an Aussie expat in Poland.. i got no idea how these plugs work etc, but from what i can tell they don't have a ground plug

regarding the PSU: i have a: be quiet! Straight Power 11 650W 80 Plus Platinum
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>>82648855
>it'd be worth reading up on your local code

this is where i completely fail as i don't speak the language here (in poland)

> buy a real antistatic wrist strap

i think they have to be connected to something grounded too i.e. the same problem as above
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>>82648272
I've had a gaming laptop for these past 5 years along with a stationary pc. The laptop served me very well, it was able to play most of the games I was interested in except the more obnoxious aaa titles like cp77, ass creed adn such.
It had a 1070 and a 6th gen i7. Of course a stationary pc will give you more power fro a dollar spent.

If you settle on buying a laptop, stick to 1080p is my advice. And try getting G-Sync or freesync screen with mux siwtch.
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Best budget/price 144hz monitor?
My options have always been XG2405 and XG2705. Are they good choices?
AFAIK they are 1ms gtg and IPS.

I really dont mind that the 27' is FHD because I have my screen 70cm away from me.
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>>82648833
i would get 3600 ram

also i have no clue what you intend to do with this build but it looks like gaming.

if you're stuck on the 11700 then stay with the b560

personally i would go 11600k + z590 and overmeme it
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When is the 5500xt going to be sub $250?
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>>82648880
Do you have access to this sort of socket?
https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plugs-and-sockets/e/
I'd feel hesitant to run a computer off an ungrounded plug.
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Anyone know if these G.Skill modules are dual rank or not?
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820232724
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>>82648965
Very unlikely but impossible to tell for sure. Without having them in hand, at least.
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>>82648862
You should have CEE 7/7 plug, not type C. Ground on these sorts of plugs isn't M, it's F and/or grounding metal bits on top/bottom. Read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEE_7_standard_AC_plugs_and_sockets
The socket on the PSU should be IEC 320 C14, the cable C13 on one end and CEE 7/7 on the other.
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>>82648963
Actually YES. you bloody beauty

the socket in my 'office' has those third prong already in the socket
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>>82648984
so plug in the PSU, turn off, and then touch that (and it/I will be grounded) ?

actually, the socket specifically in my office is this type which DOES seem to have a ground

https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plugs-and-sockets/e/
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Where do you buy your computer parts without getting scammed by crooks and China?

Newegg became ebay and you never know what you'll end up with once it arrives, if it arrives, and usually used.

Amazon is hit or miss with parts and pricing but at least they take care of returns should something be a problem.
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>>82648987
the sticky outy bit is the ground.

just watch this video:
https://youtu.be/m54ifTCgtN4
it will be interesting for misconceptions about touching the case or the psu.
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>>82649012
i got my gpu and cpu from newegg
motherboard from evga's website
the rest i touched grass all the way to microcenter
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>>82649008
The grounding pin in the wall socket (or on extension cord) is grounded (duh), you can just touch that, it will be more reliable than touch the case (which is probably painted anyway).
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If I'm going to get a 3070 or 3070 ti should I also get a new motherboard. I want to get a Ryzen 5800 and some new ram later on, but with DDR5 around the corner, would I be better just to get the GPU? My motherboard is an X-470-F.
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>>82649048
Thanks for the advice guys, i really f'ing appreciate it
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I just want an evga 3080
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>>82649012
Ebay isn't really that bad, and newegg if you only buy products that are shipped and sold by newegg it will most likely not be a scam. With ebay you only buy from someone with a lot of feedback and accepts returns, and their feedback isn't something shitty like below 95-96% anything below 99% though with lots of total feedback and you know they're not as competent as they should be.
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>>82649065
Early DDR5 will likely not be worth the hassle (and expense). There's no sense in buying a new board either (assuming yours has a Zen3 BIOS) - PCIe 4 doesn't do shit for gaming performance on current gen graphics cards.
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Any criticisms?

Not for gaming: I have an old 1060 6GB I'm throwing in it. Intended to be a workstation for coding, etc. Only glaring imbalance I see is how good the SSD is, but I'm willing to pay for that performance. Already have 32GB in my current build, and I'm not downgrading. Upgrading the 5600x doesn't seem worth it as I don't really need the extra cores. More concerned about single-threaded performance.

Thoughts?
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>>82648983
That's what I'm thinking too. Now I get to play the guessing game of whether to go with CAS 16 single rank or 22 dual rank.

Not super interested in gaymen much on this laptop, so maybe the lower latency is better, as I don't see myself going through gigs of memory, but softer cache misses might be better for my workloads. That and most of the dual rank kits are 16 per card, and I don't feel like paying 3-6 watts of power for the extra unused memory just for it.
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Question to gaymers
What games are you even playing that requires you to get 30xx series? All those fucking movie games? Everything is so fucking boring nowdays
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>>82649194
I take it the IMC isn't good enough for C16 dual rank? At a guess I'd say C16 single rank will be more performant than C22 dual but it'll depend on the workload and processor.
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>>82649214
i like VR and do am learning some 3d shit for vr
other than that i play runescape 99% of the time
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>>82649177
You could knock off ~$100 by getting a crucial p5 1tb instead like you said. If you care about reliability and longevity you could get an air cooler, but that's more a personal preference option.
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>>82649177
Looks fine to me. If you compile locally you would benefit from moar coars but the budget is the budget.
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>>82647928
dual rank 16gb is the standard these days
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>>82649177
I would get a better PSU if you plan to use it for gaming eventually.
Also, since its going to be a workstation. This is a personal opinion, but wouldnt it be better to get a mATX motherboard and a mATX case?
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>>82647535
Seems like a lot of games are getting TAA based upscaling, FSR, or some other kind of upsampling these days, so DLSS is less important at 4K which isn't too hard to upscale to, considering the high number of pixels / amount of information that a base resolution of 3/4 of 4K has. Additionally, a lot of retards are actually buying at 2x MSRP, and the Radeon cards are cheaper than their Nvidia counterparts, at least on marketplaces like eBay. Not too sure about r/etail, but at least in the US there are basically no cards in stock of either brand, so fairly irrelevant.

Would I buy Radeon if it's even close to the price/perf of a competing Nvidia card? Hell no, but buyer beware. In my opinion the 6700 XT at MSRP is a terrible offering relative to the 3070 at MSRP, to say nothing about the 3060 Ti at MSRP, but 4chinz isn't about baby sitting and I've had the 6700 XT in the OP since it released. It's just terrible, not unacceptable. Until recently the 6800 XT has been unacceptable relative to the 3080 for 4K, and it's still terrible, but again 4chinz isn't about babysitting.

>>82648833
Check the price on the MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD. Not really what I'd build, but it's fine.

>>82648893
>1ms gtg
The actual usable response time must be experimentally determined. The number on the box is marketing

>>82648926
Never, your only hope is a 6000 series card filling that slot and also hitting MSRP

>>82649065
>My motherboard is an X-470-F
Depends on what CPU you have now. Mobo swap is unnecessary, and I definitely wouldn't get the 5800X if you're chasing high end performance. 5600X now, then maybe a DDR5 platform later. This is of course assuming that you have a high refresh rate monitor.

>>82649214
>requires
I'll probably check out RDR2 when I get a 3060 Ti or 3070. Otherwise I just want to play PUBG at 50% GPU utilization.
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>>82649313
I don't want to pay any more than $299.99 for a card, I currently have an RX 590 but want a 2nd system, I was hoping to at least get the same performance as an RX 590, and I got that one for $230. The sub $300 price slot has disappeared entirely and is never coming back? I'm hoping once bitcoin goes back to $8-10k then there might be hope. It's already showing signs that it's heading to <$30k.
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I can't take it any more.
I'm gonna buy a 5700g when it launches and stick with low req games and hope that by 2022 everything will be okay.
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>>82649374
>is never coming back?
On a long enough timeline it'll come back. If you really want to build a second system now at about the same performance level, you can get a used Pascal card like the 1060 for fairly cheap

>>82649385
>5700g
Just get a 5600G
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>>82649227
Ye, I'm fine with paying extra for more SSD perf, and fine with possibility of liquid cooler failure

>>82649238
Not a lot of compiling going on. Sometimes with small Rust projects but I doubt it matters much in that case

>>82649304
Am considering a better PSU. Why would a workstation want a smaller case/mobo?
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>>82649217
I'm unsure about the IMC, but I'd rather run stock power for battery reasons. I can't find much tighter than CAS 22@3200MHz without XMP asking for more voltage apart from that g.skill line I posted.

I just don't know the right people to ask to find a Goldie locks dual rank module that will take tighter timings on 1.2
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>>82649385
it wont be
it will never return to normal
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After the big Founder's Edition Best Buy drop last week, can we assume the supply chain is at least improving and that we might see similar retail drops more often?
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>>82649531
Yes. It seems CPU prices are turning to normal as well, and will keep dropping until then.
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>>82649567
Beautiful. Looks like things are getting back to normal after all
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>>82649497
The laptop RAM overclocking community must be pretty small. I think you're over-emphasizing the power draw difference in your analysis - any time the RAM will be in heavy use the processor/graphics will be getting hammered as well which is going to have a much bigger impact on battery life than the RAM. Consider a mitigation strategy, like buying another battery or designing a low-power XMP profile, instead of agonizing over memory kits.
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>>82649531
It was a nice drop and all, but I wouldn't get hopes up if you are expecting a huge change before the end of the year. FE cards are the only reasonably priced ones, in this market, and they are still in wildly high demand from scalpers and the like. It's clear that people are still more than willing to pay inflated prices for GPU's, especially after having been blue balled for so long. A $2000 3080 pre-built is still considered acceptable, and possibly even great value, to lots of people who have been waiting for damn near anything to show up in stock. Until we stop seeing people camping outside businesses at the slightest whiff of some 30 series pussy, the only reasonable assumption to make is that demand will be higher than supply for the foreseeable future.
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>2600x
>sapphire 580 8gb
>75hz freesync monitor
So do I make sure freesync is working and whatnot? Do I just enable freesync in the radeon settings and forget about it? What about enhanced sync and vsync options in-game and in the control panel? Why does this shit need to be so confusing?
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I'm not holding my breath for the 5600x to drop under 300€ considering the 3600x is never dropped under 260€.
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>>82649662
I'm more worried about at idle, not activation. But yeah, it's a bit overkill. I like doing it, though
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Alright, which of these three monitors would you want?
>MSI Optix G273QF 27"
>ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQ 27"
>ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ1A 27"
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>>82650082
The 3600X was $210 in summer last year. At the time the 3600 was like $160.

>>82650126
At idle the difference will be milliwatts.
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>>82650164
Not here. Though, 300€ is with tax, I don't know if that's the case where you are.
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>>82650174
I forgot about VAT. At 20% it'd have been ~$250 in the US.
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>>82650194
Sounds about right. We never seem to get quite as low here. I'm not sure why.
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>>82650209
The nations of Europe have implemented a more pure form of American communism.
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>Deepcool steam castle
It's so cute, why isn't there full ATX variant of this shitbox
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>>82650396
that seems awful as a case. the looks can be alright if you like old juke boxes I guess.
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Do you guys think the R5 5600X will end up a lower price this year? Like at least 250$?
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>>82649385
>>82649531
you think companies are just going to voluntarily start charging less money now that theyve seen people will eagerly pay wildly high prices?
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>>82650079
>understanding things is hard
Basically you enable Freesync from Radeon's settings / control panel, then disable V-sync in game. The problem with your monitor is that it's only 75Hz, so the Freesync range will be limited, usually 48-75Hz. So if your frametimes drop below that, you'll get tearing. Also if your framerate exceeds 75FPS, you'll need to enable V-sync if it's way above or framelimit using internal or external means if you're fluctuating around 75FPS.

>>82650157
The MSI has the best motion handling probably. Check the list of monitors in the OP

>>82650417
It's slowly declining as we speak, sub MSRP in the US. Zen 3 will also have competition from Alder Lake in the Fall. Who knows how low the 5600X will go, but I wouldn't fret over a few dollars. Just upgrade when you need to.
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>>82650460
they can't stop producing GPUs because you book samsung/tsmc facilities years in advance and you only have a certain time window to sell a generation of them. the demand is not infinite either. so yes, companies are going to voluntarily charge less money because the market conditions change. retard.
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>>82650079
Also you need to make sure that the monitor itself is in VRR mode
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>>82650526
>I wouldn't fret over a few dollars. Just upgrade when you need to.

The thing is the only way I can get it at a decent price is through Amazon international shipping. I don't know what fucked up exponential formula do they use for shipping cost but every few more or less dollars can change drastically the total. Right now it's like 100$ shipping
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>>82650526
>understanding things is hard
It kind of is when there is no single comprehensive source you can trust. Some answers on forums are great but are also 3+ years old and a lot has changed in the AMD settings menus in that time.
>so the Freesync range will be limited, usually 48-75Hz. So if your frametimes drop below that, you'll get tearing. Also if your framerate exceeds 75FPS, you'll need to enable V-sync
That's a good example of things that aren't mentioned in the driver menus or mentioned in forum posts I've read.
The whole freesync thing isn't new but theres a fuckton of people who still have or are only just upgrading from a standard 60hz monitor.
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Turns out I can only really fit one radiator in my 5000D. Unfortunately I had to use violence to both 360 AiOs in it now. The CPU radiator is missing one fan because it wont fit otherwise. Doesn’t really seem to make a difference temp wise but still feels bad man.
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>>82650417

Its possible. Legitimate discount cpu/mobo bundles are starting to become a thing with boards that aren't total garbage.

I'm hoping that Intel 12 gen comes back roaring and causes zen3 prices to drop to the bargain bin.
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https://streamable.com/gtv2mn
>that sound
It's fucked isn't it?
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>Finish putting pc together
>Everything is stable and the way I want it
>Notice small paint chip on case
Fuck.
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>>82651123
Good, it needs character
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Prices of hard drives are stubbornly high. I used to buy them at NewEgg, but they don't seem to have more than 5% sales any more.

Where do you go to buy hard drives that won't break the bank?
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>>82651181
Shucking WD drives
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>>82649487
>Am considering a better PSU. Why would a workstation want a smaller case/mobo?
I personally prefer it that way because i dont have much space, and as a workstation it shouldnt go on too high temperatures nor need such a big airflow.
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>>82649313

I have a 2700x and a 144 hz monitor I recently bought. I don't want to replace the GPU until at least winter, if not beyond.
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Where can you get retention clips for PCIe slots. Mine has always been tight and I fucked it up when I was taking my GPU out to replace the fans.
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>>82650961
Is it even readable?
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>put new build together
>no signal to monitor
>no beeps
>fans spinning fine
>optical drive (kek) working
>take everything apart
>notice weird shadow in CPU socket
>ENHANCE!
Could this little fucker be the cause of it? Never had any issue with pins before and I've put dozens of builds together.
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>>82651419
Is that an entire pin thats missing? If so RMA.
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Looking to upgrade to an ultrawide 21:9 monitor. Wanting like 144Hz refresh rate. Thinking 3440x1440p would be good.

Would a GTX 3080 or RX 6800 be enough for that? Is there any point in getting a high refresj rate if I'm not going to realistically get over 100 fps? Is there a difference between 100 to 144Hz?
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>>82650858
AIO rads take more space than custom loop ones yeah.
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>>82647579
>>82648415
what discord is good for this
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All the bubbles are gone from my loop! c:

>>82645568
I really had no interest in making my PC look industrial or symmetrical. It's supposed to look magical.
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>>82651530
>Would a GTX 3080 or RX 6800 be enough for that?
Well the 3080/6800XT is about the best you can get so if that's not good enough then nothing else will be.

>Is there any point in getting a high refresj rate if I'm not going to realistically get over 100 fps?
Sure. 100FPS is noticeably better than 60. At least to my eyes.

>Is there a difference between 100 to 144Hz?
Yes. Although there's diminishing returns. You'd have to be looking for it. YMMV of course - for me anything over 100 is gravy but maybe you're a CS pro with calliphoric reflexes.
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>>82651611
fuck off with your off-topic faggotry >>>/g/guts
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>>82651685
?????????????????????????????

Are you telling me to go to /guts/ or to post the /guts/
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>>82651628
thanks homie.

I'm thinking maybe just getting a 2560x1440p 27" 16:9 monitor instead. It just looks like ultrawide is still hard to run.

Been playing on a 2560x1080 for a while now so it should look much better. Just gonna miss the FOV 21:9 offers.
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>>82651579
>custom loop
Too afraid my build will end up looking like >>82651611
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>>82651611
remove everyone except poppy and it'll be way better
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>>82651827
use soft tubing for babby's first loop, or just dont be a lazy faggot like that guy was.
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Gonna be building my first ever PC in 10 minutes. This part list was assembled with the help of /pcbg/ and deals posted on r/buildapcsales. Would have been $400 cheaper and included a 3080 in more reasonable times, but it is what it is. Thanks for all the help, anons.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nNd8Vc
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>>82651853
Will look into it, thanks
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Hello guys. Yesterday an anon said I was retarded to want to use my 1080p/60Hz monitor for a PC I set up with an RTX 3070. He said I should look for a 1440p with better refresh rate.
Does anyone know what more important factors I need to take into account to choose the right monitor?
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>>82651778
Up to you really. I think the 3080 is capable of driving most games to >100FPS at 1440p ultrawide. Especially with tuned settings. Going from 1080pUW to 1440p seems like a pretty small upgrade.
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Opinions on I5-11400? How good is it? How long it'll last me?
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>>82651864
good luck remember to rub your feet on the carpet to build up a good charge and then insulate yourself from the floor while you build your pc. have fun!
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got my crucial ballistix ram today boys, damn, these shits are fucking tiny
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>>82649313
Oh hey, I knew you'd still be in these threads. I just got a 6800 XT this week and it's running games at 4K just fine. I figured you'd like to know.
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>>82651864
>3200 cl16 RAM for $80 when 3600cl16 is only $10 more and lets you run memory and fabric at 1:1 ratio for
ya dun goof'd
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>>82651907
screen type (avoid TN) and latency.
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looking for a wired mini keyboard trackpad/trackball combo. any recommendations? must be smol. makin raspberry pi cyberdeck
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>>82651842
That is unironically the best opinion I've read on this general.

>>82651853
I don't understand where the laziness insult comes from. Is it because they're not all parallel? My build is not only beautiful but I managed to pack 780mm worth of radiator, 6 140mm fans and 3 120mm fans in a Strix Helios, while also giving myself an entire liter of thermal mass.

My GPU can pull 400W for 2 hours and never break 65C. I'm pretty happy with both its appearance and performance, and a lot of thought went into both.

Let's see you manage 40+ cables for RGB on a case this size.

>>82651827
Then buy the Lian-li case that gives you perfectly straight tubes on all your runs and you'll have a loop that looks like literally every other custom loop in the world.
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>>82652361
>everything is crooked and uneven
>"I don't understand where the laziness insult comes from."
guess you're retarded as well as lazy.
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>>82652380

The loop would look worse to me if they were all 6 parallel. I chose to do the 2 x 2 x 2 being parallel and off slightly because I thought it looked better.

Lets see your build.
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>>82652431
>uniformity would look worse than limp-dick low effort uneven tubes that are all off at different angles
get out
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>here's your hard-tube loop bro
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in a newish game i get about the same % of cpu and gpu utilization, but the game likes to stutter and when that happens cpu% spikes. could that mean a cpu bottleneck that can be fixed with an upgrade?

ryzen 5 2600 - 1060 3gb - 16gb 2400mhz

maybe a ram issue since it tends to happen near loading zones? besides the stutters i get 80-100 fps
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Last night I managed to snag a 2060s refurbished by asus for $400. I've wanted to make a computer for over a year, and I finally got decent GPU for close to MSRP. I was so giddy, I couldn't sleep, I just spent the whole night looking up builds and comparing parts. I settled on a mini-itx build with a small footprint, how's it look, /g/? Is it future proof?
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>>82652531
looks good, not sure what future proof means though
what are your plans for fans?
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>>82652459
>>82652459
If I got a case with a distro panel on the front and rotated my graphics card 90 degrees, I could literally have 6 perfectly-straight tube runs with zero bends and zero effort.

Yes, I think a uniform industrial-looking design would look worse in a build that's supposed to look magical. If anything I'd like to get crazier with the tube-bends but I ruined too many tubes attempting them.

>>82652503
>holy shit look at this build bro
>the tubes are so straight I've literally never seen a build that looked like this one before
>truly one of a kind
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>>82652573
it doesn't look magical, it looks like you don't know what the fuck you're doing. but then again for someone who uses thousands of actual rainbow lights in their computer I wouldn't expect you to have working eyes.
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>>82650961
Nah just gotta shake the thing a bit
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>>82652587
>looks like you don't know what the fuck you're doing

Let's see your build then
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Is IPS still the most desirable panel?
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>>82652562
>looks good, not sure what future proof means though
Sticking a 6800xt in it when they're not scalped to shit
>what are your plans for fans?
Two blowing up to the GPU from the bottom and Two venting out from the top of the case to help the Fugen. To be honest, I'm a novice when it comes to building PC's, this is my first. I'm afraid this small PC will get toasty from insufficient cooling.
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>>82652573
>basedface.png
you again. thanks for outting yourself once more. you can stop posting and go back to your gay corner and fap to your shitty loop alone in your faggot-cave where you belong
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>>82652594
not sure what that has to do with anything, since I don't have a hardline loop, but sure.

>>82652603
yeah that's probably the best setup for air cooling.
make sure the P12 fits under the gpu, I think it's quite close to the gpu, so if it's too thick you might need slim fans. a 2060s isn't usually very thick though, so you'll probably be fine, it's probably more of a problem with custom 3080s.
everything in your build sheet looks good. the cpu is definitely good enough to handle the upgrade to a 6800XT. choosing a motherboard with two m.2 slots is good too, many cheaper ITX only have one.
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>>82652658
Why don't you have a hardline loop and why'd you just post a picture of your PSU cables lol

>>82652651
Outing myself "once more?" This is literally my second time posting on this board and it's only because I'd just filled my new loop.
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>>82652603
>2 intake bottom, 2 exhaust in the top
wont be good unless you can rotate scythe's mounting system 90 degrees so it's pushing air up, which i doubt you can.

>>82652698
you're the only faggot posting that. same retard bullshit every time. just stop.
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Looking to build a 2k / 60+ FPS gaming rig. Not particularly interested in 4k or ray tracing, nor am I concerned with editing or streaming.
I'm looking to play DOOM Eternal, Witcher 3, and Final Fantasy 14, preferably around "high" settings but I've no problem tweaking for better performance.
I've been out of loop for years, don't really know the standards anymore, so I'm running off of the OP recommendations. I don't have any preference for manufacturers. I'm only concerned with whatever's the best deal for my target performance.
Hoping to get 2~4 years at 2k/60+ but I have no idea what's viable anymore.

Would the i5 listed bottleneck the RX 6700 XT?

I'm not at all certain what mobo to go with. I don't particularly care about the bells and whistles so long as it performs well.

Is 16GB RAM sufficient for 2k/60+? I don't expect to be running much more than a game, web browser, and media player simultaneously.

Monitor isn't set in stone. I want 2k/60+, 27", preferably with at least 2 HDMI ports for my consoles and 1 Display Port for PC. Audio out is nice for routing console audio but not necessary. Curved is inconsequential. Don't know if panel type makes that much of a difference.

I've never dabbled with overclocking before. Would it help keep the system performing at or near my target for longer? Don't know if a 650W would be sufficient to do so with current build.

Thanks in advance for what, if any, advice / insults you have to offer.
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>>82652716
>mid-end stuff for high res gaming
i hope you're willing to upscale or you're going to have a bad time.
also biostar is trash.
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>>82652698
>Why don't you have a hardline loop and why'd you just post a picture of your PSU cables lol
because I have a small PC and because I have a small PC
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>>82652711
If you were actually an enthusiast you wouldn't be such a nasty and rude person. I don't think I've ever reacted to someone who was participating in the same hobby as me (especially a creative one) with the kind of vitriol you and that other guy are coming at me with.

Even if I don't like someone else's creative direction I'm not an asshole about it completely unprovoked.

You're both poor and deserve to be poor.
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>>82652698
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>>82652768
you sound like you would be more in your element in a hugbox like reddit, if you're looking for validation for your half-assed build that you somehow are willing to defend.
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>>82652778
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>>82652743
I've been seeing 2k regarded as mid-range. If that's high end what does that make 4k?

I haven't looked into the i5 but the RX 6700 XT seems to perform well at 2k on high in many benchmarks. If that's insufficient what would you recommend?
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>>82652814
My build doesn't need to be defended from people with dollar store shoebox PCs.
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Does a 8k monitor with 60+ refresh rate exist?
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>>82652843
>>82652843
https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-ultrasharp-32-8k-monitor-up3218k/apd/210-alez/monitors-monitor-accessories?gacd=9646510-1025-5761040-266794296-0&dgc=st&ds_rl=1282786&gclid=CjwKCAjwruSHBhAtEiwA_qCppgCe1fmUyCW5eZ_9n5999uo61aoF-PKumXA4-aXMoAdmhffrep3X7xoCofoQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&nclid=tPNKNt-3Y9P3DdvVAahBg4mMevZ-N48W-bCP9hVkn0YPgY9yCfNDWeHyQXABE5Iu
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>>82652875
>First review I come across says right off the bat it's 60 hz
Thanks man but I don't think it exists
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>>82652908
60+ doesn't mean "more than 60" anon.
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>>82652843
i think bofa made one earlier this year. havent read any reviews though
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>>82652923
you should go to reddit with the other retard and his garbage hardlines
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>>82652940
imagine seething this hard cuz you can't hardline a decent a pc on neetbux
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>>82652594
>NOOO YOU CANT SAY I DID A BAD JOB UNLESS YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING BETTER YOURSELF!!!!!!!!
dilate

>>82652768
if YOU were an enthusiast you wouldnt have crooked tubes, faggot
>MUH CREATIVITY
kek, now that's some next level cope from a lazy bug-eyed retarded faggot.

>>82652815
neck yourself, cringelord.
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>>82652958
imagine projecting so hard because you cant pull off straight lines even when you supposedly have so much money you could afford a laser leveler and have to cope so hard you pull out every fallacy in the book
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>>82653002
if i had to live on $400/mo i'd be unreasonably hostile to strangers on the internet too

do your parents take a cut?

>>82652979
Your entire criticism of my build is that the tubes aren't all perfectly horizontal when its obvious they were never meant to be horizontal.

Your justification for this is that all builds have to be perfectly horizontal with all of their tubes or the builder is compromising.

Meanwhile, you assembled shoebox PC with absolutely nothing original about it and want to discount my effort and my creativity. Wow.
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Would an RTX 3070 and AMD 5900X for $1500 USD be considered a good deal?
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>>82651611
>>82653072
I've seen first time virgin pc builders do a better hardline job than your supposed "enthusiast hobbyist".
>plebbit spacing
go back
>Inb4 B-BUT IT WAS A MEME ON 4CHINZ BEFORE PLEBBIT EXISTED
dilate

>Your entire criticism
>Your justification
you're so fucking butthurt someone dared criticize your shitty job you have to deflect by calling them poor, non-enthusiast, and using fallacies like "LETS SEE YOUR HARD TUBES THEN"
stop stop posting
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I don't understand how the RX 470 or 1660 Super are low end cards. Wtf are you guys even playing that those wouldn't give good performance on? Shouldn't they handle 1080p 60fps in just about any game no problem?
Who the fuck cares about anything more than that? Legit curious if you guys think you get a lot out of your 1000hz 9080p setup or whatever the fuck it is these days.
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>>82651611
stop posting your disgusting ugly garbage you worthless underage trash.
Nobody wants to see it or talk about except to shit on it.
Why are you still not getting the signals that nobody likes your shitty loop and nobody likes you?
Leave and never come back
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>>82653104
modern AAA titles with high settings above 1080p res
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Is there any point in upgrading this? Poorfag build out of eBay parts in the spring and I don't game enough to stress the GPU.
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>>82653104
you dont even know what you're talking about if you put a fucking rx470 in the same bracket as a 1660super which is about 75% faster than a fucking rx470.
1660S is upper low-end or lower mid-end. RX470 is absolutely a low-end card because it can barely play a modern big title with decent frames at 1080p unless you turn down a fuckton of graphics settings. i know this because i have a fucking RX570 myself.
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>>82653098
>I've seen first time virgin pc builders do a better hardline job than your supposed "enthusiast hobbyist".
This is my first time doing hard line tubing and I've never built a PC before. You entirely missed the point of that paragraph, but I suppose whatever brain damage you had that resulted in your personality probably affected your reading comprehension too.

>you're so fucking butthurt someone dared criticize your shitty job you have to deflect by calling them poor, non-enthusiast, and using fallacies like "LETS SEE YOUR HARD TUBES THEN"
stop stop posting

You're butthurt by my build existing because you're jealous I have the money to enjoy your hobby more than you do. If you had the chance I'm sure you'd get your front-mounted distro plate and 6 perfect tubes that you don't even have to bend and have the generic watercooling loop of your dreams. You wouldn't be able to tell pictures of your build from the one on every single amazon listing and you couldn't be happier.

>>82653138
I'll leave in the morning when I go to my job where I make more in two days than you make in a month of neetbux. Seethe more.
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>>82653204
no one cares about your shitty build.
stop deflecting and stop posting and go back to dilating you coping bug-eyed butthurt retarded faggot.
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>>82653185
unironically no
thats a very solid build
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>>82653221
>no one cares about your shitty build.
You're still seething.
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for some reason my display is now showing up as if it is oversharpened, yet everything is pixelating in front of my eyes.. i initially thought it was my gpu but i switched over to integrated graphics and i am still experiencing all graphical issues. i also tried to buy a new hdmi cable and that is not the issue either.
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>>82653204
Dude your computer looks fucking awful and I didn't read this entire wall of cope, but it's objectively retarded to put liquid anywhere near your machine. We don't need confirmation that you're a faggot by you talking about being a wagecuck
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>>82653237
stuff like this border is happening, along with video stuttering/glitching, etc.
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>>82653232
>ur still seething
t. guy that starts calling people poor and saying they cant criticize him unless they have done something better themselves

you're beyond retarded. you sad pathetic loser.
boo fucking hoo, go post on plebbit if you cant handle having your feelings hurt.
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>>82652361
>My GPU can pull 400W for 2 hours and never break 65C. I'm pretty happy with both its appearance and performance, and a lot of thought went into both.
My entire supercomputer complex (made out of servers, not raspberry pi numale shit) pulls 300 watts at load because I'm not a retarded faggot using pajeet hardware marketed towards gaymers
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>>82653244
>but it's objectively retarded to put liquid anywhere near your machine
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>>82653275
You don't have a unix timestamp in your filename, you are filtered by this board.
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>>82653274
>My entire supercomputer complex

That's really cool though. What do you do with it?

>>82653273
>act nasty to someone online
>they act nasty back

"S-stop being such a snowflake!!!"
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>>82653294
dont post your fucking shit on this site if you cant handle it you fucking manchild.
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>>82653202
Post full PC specs. the 470 should be able to handle anything at 1080 high settings if it's not being power or heat limited and is paired with a good CPU
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>>82653307
>act nasty to someone online
>they act nasty back
>cry about it then post smuggie meme
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>>82653324
get a fucking clue and check a fucking benchmark yourself, you retard, it was a mid-end card back when it was launched in fucking 2016.

>>82653327
>post your ugly ass shit on 4chin
>people say it's shit
>get so fucking butthurt you start sperging, deflecting and projecting for over two fucking days straight
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>>82653294
>That's really cool though. What do you do with it?
I use it to install gentoo, of course.
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>>82653327
>act nasty back
no, you're just being a sad fucking butthurt retard because someone hurt your feelings by calling your lazy build ugly.

cope and dilate.
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>>82653339
why are you so mad about a dude's tubes?

chill the fuck out man.
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>>82653385
why are you so mad someone called your shitty build shit, samefag?
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>>82653390
not him but ok. i'm just trying to ask a few questions but you keep seething over some trivial shit and derailing the thread. how does that build trigger you so much? bc it certainly isn't the fact the tubes aren't straight.
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>>82653354
I don't really know what a supercomputer is or what it does. You install gentoo on it then what?

>>82653339
I'm like legitimately surprised at how much you're triggered by a rainbow-anime build on an imageboard entirely built around anime.

>>82653366
>lazy build
>over 40 RGB cables that had to be managed
>9 fans, a distro plate, and 2 full size rads in a cramped space
>custom RGB basement paneling made by hand

This coming from someone who ordered some cheap parts online and screwed them together without even caring what it looked like in the end.

>>82653390
>samefag accusing others of samefagging

You're literally seeing red over the fact an online-stranger's tubes aren't parallel like in your Linus videos.
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>>82653437
you're right, it's because he keeps posting his shitty fucking pc here instead of the e-peen threads >>>/g/bst >>>/g/guts
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>>82653456
>all that shit
>but didnt bother doing straight runs
yes, that's lazy, just like dumping unlimited money into a full battlestation and rig and not managing your cables, or cleaning your fucking house but not dusting the shelves. lazy.
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>>82653461
ok i can buy that. criticism warranted
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>>82653461
it's my first PC build
/guts/ doesnt exist
/bst/ is for your entire battlestation

I wanted to talk and show people the (p)(c) i (b)uilt. hmm where would i talk about that kind of stuff and talk about the build process and benchmarking?

>>82653478
I do not want straight runs. Show me something that isn't like what literally EVERYONE else is doing and I might feel inspired to fuck up 4 more meters of tubes. The tubes are parallel in slightly-off-kilter pairs and it's intentional to give a bit of casualness and levity to the presentation.

It's also why it's on rainbow and why there are anime girls in and on the case.

You are entirely missing the point of what was attempted and are instead getting angry because I didn't do something I had no interest in doing at all.
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>>82653544
we get it, you're not straight, you're a gay tranny, but you will never be a woman, now fuck off. we dont give a shit.
make the fucking thread if it doesnt exist and take your off-topic garbage and fuck out of here.
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>>82653552
>we get it, you're not straight, you're a gay tranny, but you will never be a woman, now fuck off

Imagine being this mad that a stranger's computer doesn't look like your newegg ads.
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>>82653565
imagine being as retarded as you. see >>82653461
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>>82653570
>responds in 42 seconds to call me a retard again
>ISN'T mad
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>>82653591
how can i be mad when im eating a tasty egg sandwich?
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>>82653237
Maybe a borked NVIDIA control panel config? Try to reset to default.

Also update drivers and reset monitor config.
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>>82653544
Regardless of the intention, regardless of what you were attempting, the end result is bad. it doesn't look casual, it doesn't look "magical", it looks bad and it looks lazy. If it's your first attempt, that's fine, but accept the fact that it looks bad and lazy and quit trying to justify it with poor excuses.
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If you guys want to see shitty guts then take a gander at this nightmare. Crammed 5 fans and a HDD into this tiny poorfag case with stock power cables, a fistful of zip ties, and a pocket full of dreams.
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>>82653712
no we dont, go post in the guts thread.
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>>82653716
Have you not realized that the entire reason all of this is happening is because there ISN'T a guts thread?
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>>82653734
you dont have enough braincells to make a thread yourself?
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>>82653759
Why am I responsible for it?
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>>82647152
so are prices still falling? any risk of them going back up?
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>>82653766
why do you think "there's no thread" is a valid excuse for posting off-topic shit in other threads?
you're dumber than a fucking amoeba.
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my fucking holes on the motherboard won't line up completely with the case to screw in. i have the IO shield as flush as I can get it and the screws are still misaligned. any help? i've watched videos online and it just slides into place ezpz for everyone else. i am able to screw in some holes, just not all of them. case is ATX and so is motherboard
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>>82653778
>>82653759
>>82653716
There is no guts thread.

This is a PC building thread.

Custom watercooling loop building and cable management are, by definition, /pcb/ when the loop and cables are inside a computer.

What's so hard to understand about that?


>>82653687
I just hard disagree that it looks anywhere near as bad as what you're saying. There are things I'm going to improve on it when I drain it for maintenance but it'll be to make the 2 x 2 x 2 off-kilter parallel thing I mentioned more apparent, and better-executed. "I don't like what you were going for" is fine because weeaboo RGB isn't for everyone, but to come right out of the gate with "lazy" just goes to show that you have no idea the kind of effort a build like this requires because you've never attempted it before.
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>>82653828
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>>82653828
unscrew the others and start with that one. just push against the IO shield, it'll give with a bit more force. had the same issue on my ITX board.

>>82653840
>no thread
make one
>pc building thread
yeah, not a show-off thread, retard. go make a fucking thread for yourself to show off your e-peen, i mean axe-wound.
>more plebbitspacing
go away already you fucking retarded tranny. YWNBAW, your excuses are shit, you butthurt faggot.
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>>82653857
>force with all your strength against the bulkhead until the screw holes align
>screw it in
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What reason is there to get a mid to high end B560 when you could get a good Z590 in the same price range? Genuinely wondering.
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>>82653778
Did you know there's more than just me and you on this website?
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>>82653865
>show off your e-peen, i mean axe-wound.
>more plebbitspacing
>go away already you fucking
>retarded
>tranny.
>YWNBAW,
>your excuses are shit,
>you butthurt faggot.


t. anon who is most certainly NOT mad
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>>82653870
none

>>82653875
and?

>>82653878
t. anon who certainly is not a butthurt retard
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>>82653878
are you implying swearing and lack of diverse fancypants vocabulary is a sign of something?
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>regular 3080 2k$
>LHR 3080 1700$
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>>82653882
>and?
And that means I'm not making every other post in the entire thread. There's like, a bunch of other posters.
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>>82653867
i'm trying bro, i swear this as flush as it gets. if you imagine a matrix where each number represents a screw hole, such as
>1 2 3 (top row of IO shield)
>4 5
>6 7 8
Numbers 1, 2, and 3 remain misaligned no matter how hard i try to force the IO shield deeper into the case. the rest are totally fine. i'm gonna kms
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>>82653938
and how does that change the fact that other people are posting offtopic shit and are too stupid to make a fucking thread they can fuck off to?
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>>82653882
>butthurt retard

I repeat: anon is NOT upset

>>82653906
words have meaning anon. stringing together a series of inflammatory words can be done for many reasons, but given the context it's obvious to all that anon is NOT MAD.

>>82653923
>nvidia splits their silicone between LHR and miner-only cards
>4 years later
>miners can't see their burnt-out graphics cards on the second-hand market because people dont want GPU card without video ports on them
>price of second-hand cards remains high enough to convince people to shell out a little bit more to buy new instead

this is the future nvidia wants
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>>82653840
I know exactly how much effort goes into it and that's exactly why I don't do it myself. It's a colossal pain in the ass and not worth my time. But I don't have to be a master pc builder to say that a low quality job is low quality. I've never painted a car before but if I see one with orange peel and runs all over it, then I'm going to think it looks like shit, and if the guy who painted it tries to tell me that I just don't "get it" and he made it look bad on purpose because it's supposed to be casual then I'm going to think he's an idiot.
It's okay to do a mediocre job. As long as it's functional then that's good enough. But don't jump through a bunch of hoops and come up with this twisted logic to try and justify it. You never progress that way. You're like those morbidly obese women who write "I'm beautiful" on their bodies in marker. You're not beautiful, you're fat, hit the gym
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>>82653947
Because you told ME to go make the thread. How short is your attention span that you can't remember more than like 3 posts into a chain?
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>>82653963
i repeat: projecting butthurt tranny
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>>82653942
I would honestly mandhandle the fuck out of it and force it to fit, even if it causes the case to deflect a little. You can get it to fit because the material of the case is likely weaker than you, and once the screws are in place eventually the case will just permanently settle right up snug against your motherboard.

But if you don't think you can do it an angle that doesn't risk snapping the board, then don't. I'm not there to make that call and its not my hardware at risk.
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>>82653942
take out the mobo and bend the standoffs into place then
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Any reason to buy MSI Z590 Torpedo over the Z590-A Pro?
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>>82653988
>>82654011
thanks guys, i got it. i think i just needed to vent
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Do I really need to drop half a grand for a 5700 XT in 2021?
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>>82654079
maybe. there's still 6 months left of this year for prices to drop.
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>>82653964
Peeling paint is as material defect and renders parts of the car without weather protection.

What does throwing a bunch of fittings to pointlessly make my runs all parallel do?
>additional head loss to the loop
>more points of failure
>more traps for nano-particles that come out of solution

The benefit or necessity for every single build on earth to have 6 perfectly-parallel tube runs is completely subjective. "Because it looks like the PCs on my newegg ads" is not a valid argument as to why it has to be that way.


>>82654079
>5700 XT

I don't really like the AMD cards in general but a 580 goes for like $200 online and can run almost all the popular games at max settings in 1080p. If you're really concerned about budget and you aren't playing things like Warzone or Apex Legends then a $200 580 will meet all your needs.

>>82654020
Torpedo has an extra M.2 slot if you plan on running 3 M.2 drives, and it has more I/O ports. Other than that I don't see a huge difference performance-wise, especially if you're not planning on overclocking anyways.
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>>82654110
>cant even understand an analogy
>still refuses to admit he's lazy and did a poor job even after over half a dozen people told him
>still making up excuses
christ anon
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>>82654020
Honestly no reason unless you just don't like the styling of the pro, jesus they made it ugly as sin but that's not the point of the Pro I don't think
Torpedo has an extra LAN, I guess to have the 2.5g for your NAS and still have the 1G for WAN. Odd addition desu

>>82654110
>Torpedo has an extra M.2 slot if you plan on running 3 M.2 drives
Pro has 3 M.2 as well
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Is it wise to get a 256gb wd black(sn750) for OS and 1 or 2 games and 1tb wd blue (sn550) for more game storage Both m.2 of course. Or the other way around get the sn550 for os and the sn750 for game storage
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>>82654110
>Peeling
Did I say peeling?
>What does throwing a bunch of fittings to pointlessly make my runs all parallel do?
Make it not look like shit.
If you had actually read what I wrote, I said as long as it's functional then you don't have anything to worry about. But don't post pictures of it if you're not emotionally capable of dealing with the criticism. It's very obvious that you've put a lot of effort into making visual to show it off. RGB lights and stickers don't improve your functionality either. So you can't say that you don't care how it looks because you clearly do. And if you want to show it off and people call it bad, then either fix it or don't show it off. But don't say we just "don't get it". You're only trying to justify the time you spent getting a poor result when you should just learn to take responsibility.
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>>82654110
>a 580 goes for like $200 online
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>>82654195
both are stupid waste of money and slots. just get the single biggest better drive you can afford now.
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>>82654195
In short; no. Check your mobo but must don't support 2 NVME drives. The other one will probably be ran on SATA and then there's no point in not saving money and just getting a bigger and cheaper SATA SSD.
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>>82654237
there's no price difference between sata, m2 sata and qlc nvme
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>>82647152
>Budget 1080p: Used RX 470/570 4GB
>Mid-range 1080p: RTX 2060, RX 5600 XT
>High-end 1080p : RTX 3060, RX 5700 XT
>Mid-range 1440p: RTX 3060 Ti, RX 6700 XT
>High-end 1440p/2160p: RTX 3080, RX 6800 XT
Which one of these applies for 4k/60
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>>82654274
high-end, maybe even 3090 or 6900 if your games dont support DLSS or FSR.
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>>82654298
3080ti*
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>>82654237

2tb sn550 then ?
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>>82654308
a regular 3080 will work retard
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The autist derailing the whole thread because someone rightfully made fun of his ugly build that he has been spamming for days now is the reason we can’t have nice things
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>>82654237
>Check your mobo but must don't support 2 NVME drives
Huh? Z590 should have 3 M.2 slots, at least.
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>>82654328
>EVERY GAME WILL RUN 4k 60FPS NO MATTER SETTINGS ON A 3080 !!!!!!
kys retard
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>>82654370
same can be extended to the 3080ti as its only 4% """"better"""""
right back at you, retard
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>>82654201
It is a bit frustrating that a 4 year old graphics card still sells for its MSRP in 2016 but it could be worse.

>>82654147
>half a dozen people
>not just the two angry schizos losing track of their own posts

Ok

>>82654199
I'm not sure how I'm "not handling it" just because I said your opinion is bad and you're acting like an awful person. it seems more like you can act like an asshole online but youre practically begging me to lay off you for it.
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>>82648715
It depends on the climate where you live whether or not it's even a concern. I live somewhere where it's usually humid so I don't worry about it much, but if it's very dry where you are you may want to take precautions. If you do get one of those grounding straps, it should have an actual wire to clip onto a grounding point. Otherwise like the other anon suggested it's probably easier to just touch the ground pin on the socket every now and then.
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>>82654390
>not just the two angry schizos losing track of their own posts
there were multiple new posters replying to you, but keep living in your little bubble of denial.
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Is "8gb RAM is good enough" the biggest lie in PC building? My PC uses 3.9gb just with background processes like Steam and RTSS; I wouldn't be able to run shit with just 8gb.
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>>82654430
>"8gb RAM is good enough"
this hasn't been true since like..... ddr3 came out?
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>>82654430
it's not a lie unless you play one of the handful of games that require more like Tarkov or the two flight sim games.
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If dg2 doesn't push down gpu prices the inflation will be permanent.
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>>82654430
Windows memory management is a joke.
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>>82654465
>dg2
AyyMD 6600 card most likely undercut Novidya as usual
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>>82654430
it all depends on what you do on your pc. 8gb is perfectly fine for a media center rig. if you're gaming you want more than 8gb since fucking cemu can take 8gb just running botw.
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>>82654430
Depends on what you're doing with your PC. Most normies don't need more than 4GB, it's just that modern software is super bloated.
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>>82654430
>64gb of RAM
>league of legends client still takes ~5-6 minutes to load after the end of a game
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I am not spending 1000 dollars or more on a GPU for my new build. No fucking way. The only GPU intensive games I will play are Code Vein, MS Flight Simulator, and heavily modded Oblivion. I want 1080p 60fps only.
So.
RX 470 used for 200 bucks, or 1660 Super new for 500?
I will have a Z590, 850w PSU, and a full ATX tower with airflow so OC is on the table.
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>>82654721
doesnt make a difference if you have a 500MB/s SATA SSD or a 8500MB/s NVMe drive either because how the OS and the game is programmed.
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>>82654794
neither are good options but the 1660s is almost twice as fast than a RX470.

>850W and full tower for those parts
geg
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I've just been watching the spin and the bubbles for almost an hour. Look at all the colors. Send help.


>>82654794
Rx 470 and 1660 super are not even comparable. I would not spend $200 on a 470 considering 580s can be easily had for that price.

You will be able to run many new games at the highest settings on a 1660 Super. You will be able to run very few games at the highest settings on an Rx 470. You will not need a

1660 super for Code Vein or Oblivion, but it will do you a lot of good on something like MS flight simulator.

>I will have a Z590, 850w PSU, and a full ATX tower with airflow so OC is on the table.

Neither of these cards are worth overclocking. Take it from someone who rigged up an Rx 480 with $150 in HEAVILY customized cooling in order to set records on it, and the thing was still basically unusable. I ended up getting like ~10 extra frames in Heaven in exchange for nearly double the power consumption, and a GPU that was hilariously unstable and would crash at the drop of a hat. The Rx 470, 480, 570, and 580 all have very low voltage limits that cannot be overridden and very shit power delivery systems.

I cannot speak to the 1660 Super but I would not bother overclocking something like that anyways.

>>82648715
>work for major nuclear engineering firm
>get tasked with replacing a $160,000 mezzanine card
>convince my supervisor that ESD isn't required
>everything works out

I've never had or seen an actual ESD at work nor do I know who's actually experienced lightning hands zapping their $500 CPU. I never use a strap if I can get away with it and I just rest my hand on the case every so often for peace of mind but thats it.
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>>82654873
Trash it and get an AIO
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>run cinebench
>cpu max temps were at 59c
>mfw
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>>82654845
>>82654873
I play mostly older, CPU heavy games. Korean MMOs, Arma 3 for instance. I'm looking to build the best possible machine for those games, not shit I don't even play right now.
That said. The 850w PSU is just in case I do decide I want to play new games in high res and then I can just stick any card I want in there without having to swap another component.
I already bought a used RX 470 on ebay, I think I'll just try it out and if I can't achieve 1080p max settings in 60fps on anything I play I'll just get the 1660 Super.
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>>82654954
why do you even post then? just go do it ffs.
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>>82654794
Full towers nowadays aren't worth it unless you need the space for a custom loop or have 10+ HDDs

5000D airflow is a great case with space for custom loops too
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>>82654954
The 1660 Super will basically max you out on those kinds of games. The Rx 470 will waste your time and again, the power delivery system is absolute trash and overclocking is not an option for gaming. Only reason you'd overclock a 470 is for it to stay powered on just long enough to finish a benchmark before crashing miserably.

How? I'm wondering if I did a bad paste job on my CPU. I used a screen to make sure there was a VERY THIN layer of TIM across the entire die but I'm wondering if I used to little. For reference it's being cooled by an EK Quantum Velocity and its only running at 4.8 Ghz/1.355 volts.
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>>82654993
mine is a 5600x at stock so this explains the low temps
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>>82655073
forgot to add
cooler is a NH-U14s at max speed
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>>82655083
>>82655073

My CPU can't saturate my loop even with all the fans at their lowest speed setting. The two things working against me are:

>10900K is an extremely hot chip for no reason
>I possibly did not use enough TIM

I've been told there's no point in delidding a 10900k since the IHS is copper and it's already soldered to the die, but I'm not entirely sure how to push it's performance. At 5.2 GHz 1.36 volts it immediately throttles so I'm a bit frustrated my CPU can't do 200W while my GPU doesn't break 60C at ~400W.
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Which of these should I get?
https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-super-gtx-1660-super-gaming-x/p/N82E16814137476?Item=N82E16814137476&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-super-gtx-1660-super-ventus-xs-oc/p/N82E16814137475?Item=N82E16814137475
Only difference in specs listed is the MSI Gaming card is almost 2 inches longer and has 15mhz higher turbo speed.
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>>82655207
check reviews that compares temps, including vrm, compare warranty. i've often heard ventus card called out for shit temps.
if you dont care get the cheapest one.
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>>82655207
None because they're overpriced as fuck. That's a $260 card.
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Can I get some insight into why I've lost control of my fans? I recently bought a 3 pack of case fans and a CM fan controller, I followed the directions, what little there were, and all the fans work but spin at what sounds like 100% and it doesn't show up in my bios anymore. It connects to the header on the mobo with the included cable, and it says "connect port 0 first for pwm" which I did.
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>email from EVGA
>o shit o shit
>it's about some new power supply
pain
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>>82654430
5 chrome tabs, steam, qbittorrent
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I'm still rocking an i5 4690k that has served me well for 7 years.

Is now the time to upgrade to a current ryzen? Or should I wait?

Also my GTX1080 is still fine for a while longer right?
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>>82654492
More like it's aware that you have an over abundance of memory and does nothing to flush dirty memory pages to swap

For what reason should windows do anything to lower the memory foot print of a given process if you don't have anything that would otherwise need that RAM?
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What is best for mining with free electricity?
2 rx 570 4gb
or
1 1660 super 6gb
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>>82655719
>free electricity
Give it back, Jamal.
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best alternatives to Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case for a midtower with excellent airflow?
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>>82655611
>For what reason should windows
For the same reason the batshit insane MemCompression behavior is not enabled by default on Windows Server. So you can actually predict performance instead of "gee golly I wonder when the bufferedio is going to sneak up on my processes and rape performance to death".
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does LHR have impact on gaming performance at all?
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>>82655808
meshify 2, p400a
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What GPU should I get if I want to run ableton live 11 and game, looking at cheapest and best, currently thinking a 3060ti?
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>>82655903
no just give you a minor balls shrinkage
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Whats the deal with the ryzen apus? Are they worth of the money or you're better off getting something else for around the same value? Im dirt poor right now so the plan is to get a real vcard in a couple of months.
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>>82655903
It only cucks you when there's another crypto boom
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>>82656031
3200/3400G: ~GT 1030 performance stock, somewhat (60-70%) near ~gt 1050 performance with OC and high end XMP RAM

5700G is supposed to do better in both regards but it probably won't reach full gt 1050 performance even with OC.
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>>82656173
5600G will be the goto entry-level gamer choice when it's released IMO
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Should I spent money on ID Cooling SE 207 XT or on razor blades? I did not get a good deal on the CPU cooler btw.
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>>82655560
I went from the same cpu to a 5800x
It was worth I guess
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At this point, I've just kinda given up on making a new PC. I genuinely believe that the shortage will go on for a few more years, not forever, but for another generation. I'm not sure what I would do if my PC suddenly dies, since there really isn't much I can do
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>>82652716
I don't know how graphically intensive FF14 gets in raids and whatnot but I'm thinking a 6700 XT will be sufficient if you're only targeting 1440p60. It will handle Doom for sure, and you'll probably never drop below 60 in Witcher 3 as well based on benchmark videos I've seen.
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Want graphics but no can buy
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>>82656598
There is that guy that was coordinating GPU lottery in one of the biggest chain of stores in my country and he said "you're going to be pleasantly surprised in August"
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GPU market status?
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>>82656667
>"you're going to be pleasantly surprised in August"
Is he Qanon?
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What are some recommended GPU cheaper than used RX 470/RX 570?
My sister has a limited budget and all the auctions I'm finding are more expensive than she wants
She wants to play LoL and maybe Skyrim and stuff like that
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>>82656707
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>>82657004
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