fuck your CPU/GPU fanboy recommendations edition>CPU - 10th gen intel or ryzen 3000 or later depending on pricegaming entry: 4 cores gaming: 6 coresenthusiast or streaming: 8 cores+>GPU fuck everything lmoa>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITORPart lister: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)State budget and region>RECOMMENDED RAMCapacity: 2x8GB or 2x16GBSpeed and CAS Latency: 3200/3600MHz CL16Beware: Some Intel motherboards (e.g. H410, B460) are limited to lower speeds>RECOMMENDED COOLERShttps://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/>RECOMMENDED PSUsBasic Web Browsing: 400-450WGaming: 500-850W depending on GPU (aim for 50-75% at load) https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/>RECOMMENDED SSDsOS Drive: NVMe with TLC NAND + DRAM cachehttps://ssd.borecraft.com/>MOTHERBOARD INFO:AM4 B550/X570 - CPU-less BIOS flash feature advisable if pairing with Zen 3https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/
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RGB GANG RISE UP
waitfags always lose
For NVME/HDD, which brands are best?From what I read online, Samsung was the go-to for NVME's, whereas for HDD, some say Toshiba, others say Western Digital (7200RPM)
>>82640421Intel 10900k on a Maximus XIII Hero motherboardSamsung 2TB M.2 SSD64GB Corsair Vengence RAMNvidia 3080 Ti FEEverything is currently running at factory clock due to a bios reset.
>>82640318>mpeg cardDamn, taking this old timer back.
>>82640449hope you enjoy it i use my dream machine to shitpost on 4chan
I havent bought a gaming rig in like 12 years so nor have i kept up with parts. Not looking to spend more than $1200 at most. Anything i should change or add? I havent picked a mobo because pcpartpicker keeps mentioning something about incompatabilities.
>>82640491overpriced cooler with shitty mounting system.3600CL16 RAM is 10 bux more.You can get an SSD with DRAM for about the same price.1030 isnt even better than a fucking APU, it's not worth more than 30 bux.Meshify C is outdated, get the Meshify 2.>buying windows
>>82640491>100 bucks for win10do normalfags really
>>82640318at least it's not the other one
>>82640318What's the best GPU to pair with a 5600x, and what would be the appropriate power supply for it?
>>82640553Depends on monitor
>>82640433Samsung and WD are the only ones I trust
>>82640556I have a Seasonic 620w so not far away then. Do you anons recommend undervolt for both GPU and CPU?
>>82640585GPU probably, CPU probably not. your PSU should be fine.
>>82640491>buying windows>>>/g/get/>hyper 212 for 5600Xget a scythe fuma 2/mugen 5 rev b, your CPU deserves betterget a Meshify 2 Compact
what do you guys use to clean cum off of monitors?
>>82640834no that doesnt work that just adds more cum on my monitor
>>82640839You're supposed to put Turtle Wax on when it's brand new so that the cum will bead right off
>>82640792my twink boyfriend
>>82640901i dont have one of those
>>82641029last i heard that its was delayed due to deez
What is this supposed to mean? It's an ASUS 5700 XT. I can't find any documentation on it. Just a solid light, not blinking. It came on after I installed some PSU extention cables. I'm afraid to power it on.
>>82641070That's odd enough that i wouldn't risk powering the card up before emailing asus support.
(not in america) Upgrading from an RX480, I'm really struggling to get a 3070 that isn't several hundreds over priced, but I can get a 6700XT for about what I'd normally expect to pay. Should I just do it? Would the 3070 be worth waiting for at 1440p? Are AMD drivers bad now?
>Tried to enable XMP profile on previous build>Black screen, no post, killed my PC so hard it destroyed the boot partition>Tried to enable XMP on my new machine>Black screen
What is the AMD equivalent to the Nvidia 1060 3gb?Not just in terms of gaming performance, but also in terms of HEVC encoding. I am tired of dealing with the Nvidia blob driver on Gentoo, but have a feeling to get equivalent HEVC encoding I will have to shell out for 5000 or 6000 series card.
>>82641070i tried using extension cables once and it wouldn't allow my computer to boot then i took them off and used the regular psu cables and it worked dont know why this is
>>82641123Check your motherboard vendor's webpage QVL for ram compatibility.
>>82641172>extension cablesI'm weary of these. There's no way they are produced to the same level as psu cables.
>>82641206i think it was something to do with total power draw. when i did it i plugged them into a titan. hit the power button and only silence. it didn't harm anything that i am aware of. but it was a waste of 30 bucks. i still have those cables in my room somewhere.
>>82640792monitor cleaning liquid and microfiber cloth.>>82641029>>82641043no such thing will ever exist. AM5 is next socket. and if you mean CPU it's Zen3+ or Zen4>>82641070power delivery error.>>82641172stop buying chink cables>>82641216i hope you're not daisy-chaining your fucking shit from the same connector...
I haven’t paid attention to monitors at all for the last few years and have an opportunity to upgrade, but I have no idea where to start.What 2560 monitors would you guys buy now if you could get whatever you wanted?
>>82641194Guess I'm retarded and will not be getting the max performance of the RAM. Board doesn't even list compatibility on the website, even though it's obviously compatible. I will accept my losses.
>>82641271the fuck is a 2560 monitor>>82641277the fuck kind of shit tier board did you buy?>>82641289cringe samefag
>>82641277Yeah the ram should work at basic JEDEC spec, but for XMP, the mobo vendor needs to assure that each model will run at the specified speed and timings. Just check the QVL in future when you choose a mobo and ram to ensure everything works first time (we've all been there)
>>82641313>the fuck kind of shit tier board did you buy?Z590-E>>82641318PC still runs fine so I'm counting my blessings.
Putting together a cheapo everyday browsing pc for a cousin this is good enough right? No gaming at all. For psu I have a spare gold rated one from evga lying around. I was considering the i3 10100 and lga 1200 build instead but only found an F model so no graphics at all
>>82641277>board doesnt even list compatabilityhttps://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-z590-e-gaming-wifi-model/helpdesk_qvl_memorysorry but you really are retarded.have you even tried updating bios?
>>82641346I just control F through the memory section of corsair and did not find>CMH32GX4M2D3600C18I just updated the bios attempting to troubleshoot another issue a couple days ago.
>>82641336>1600 for $150nope. get 1600AF (12nm) for $100>CM Q300Labsolutely terrible case, avoid.>8GB 3000what? is it a kit? what timings? doesnt seem like a good price for 8GB 3000mhz when you can get 16GB 3600CL16 kit for $80-90>>82641070>the i3 10100 and lga 1200 build instead but only found an F model so no graphics at allthat ryzen CPU doesnt have graphics either,...
>>826413132560x1440I already have two but I got them like 7 years ago so they aren’t ips and don’t have hdr and other new features. I have an opportunity to upgrade to whatever I want, but I don’t know what’s good anymore
>>82641371what you mean to write then is "i did not find MY MEMORY in the list", retard>>82641384>2560x1440so 16:9 ratio 1440p...
>>82641373>1600af for 100Where? And I'm getting that one because 2 day shipping. Built in the Q300L before and that's not an issue for me
>>82641251>i hope you're not daisy-chaining your fucking shit from the same connector...im not dipshit im literally the only one here who has actually built a computer and the rest of you are just braindead larpers
>>82641391Yes, that's what I said>Board doesn't even list compatibility on the website (for my memory)Don't get anal over something so trivial. The implication was there based on the previous post I was replying to in which the topic was RAM compatibility.
>>82641391I’ve never seen anyone refer to them by aspect ratio before, but if that makes you feel better then whatever. Did you want to actually answer the question?
>>82641398dunno where, might be hard now, but at least get the 1600AF for the same price since it's just a rebadged 2600 which is way better than a fucking first gen ryzen.>i built in it beforeso? it's still a fucking trash case with zero airflow
>>82641405>implying>>82641412>I’ve never seen anyone refer to them by aspect ratio beforemost dont, but literally no one says 2560 when they're talking about a fucking 1440p screen either, which is what everyone writes when they're talking about 2560x1440 screens
>>82641448>implyingAnon, what the fuck. I literally quoted my own post word for word with the implication in parentheses...
>>82641405if you cant see a fucking difference in>it doesnt list compatabilityand>it doesnt list compatability for my ramyou're fucking retarded and need to go back to school and learn basic fucking english
>>82641466>learn basic fucking englishHow sheltered are you that you've never read a news article or an interview in which something is said in that manner? Don't take your autism so goddamn literally - although the people who writeup interviews do tend to fill in the "missing" information so autists can understand.
>>82641448>but literally no one says 2560 when they're talking about a fucking 1440p screen either, which is what everyone writes when they're talking about 2560x1440 screensBut then someone will come back talking about ultrawides and I don’t want those
>>82641465see >>82641466and stop posting, retard>>82641490you didnt say it in that manner, you said "THERE IS NO COMPATABILITY LIST FOR MY MOTHERBOARD"how fucking retarded are you?
>>82641497I would cry if I wasn't laughing at your genuine autism. Anon, I'm so terribly sorry that you couldn't infer from the previous post discussing RAM compatibility that I was talking about my RAM not being listed in the compatibility section. This is the last (You) you're getting. I may have fucked up with RAM but at least I'm not a turbo sperg like you freaking out over something stupid like this and derailing the thread.
>>82641517it would be funny if it wasnt for the fact you wrote "THERE IS NO LIST" instead of "MY RAM IS NOT IN THE LIST" , retard.fuck off back to school you fucking summerfag
Can you guys stop making fun of the autist and help me at least get a couple different monitors to compare?
>>82641528what resolution/refresh rate?
>>82641491then specify the full resolution or ratio, literally no one uses only the width when they're talking about screens
>>82641429It's 46 bucks you simply can't argue with that
>>82640520If it's a full retail copy then he could use it again when he builds another PC. At least until 2025.Also no one wants to be that guy who>builds $2500 PC>too poor to buy windows
>>82641578then why dont you buy a 200 dollalr CPU, it's only 50 bucks difference>>82641579>too poor to buy windowsthat's a weird way or typing too stupid to pirate windows
>>82641579Microdick needs to pay me for using win10, not the other way around.They were begging for people to upgrade. You can still upgrade for free easily.Paying 100 bucks is top fucking retarded shit, you don't belong here If you think otherwise faggot
current rig2600b350 mobo5700xtpcie gen 3 riserlooking to get5600xb550 mobois my gen 3 riser going to pose a problem since the b550 is gen 4 or is the bios going to default to gen 3 because of the 5700xt?basically im asking do i need to buy a new riser cable or the one im using should be fine?
>>82641682no, just set it to 3.0 before you use the riser.
>>82641595Pinching every penny here for this build that's why. I could get a 2600 instead of the 1600 but again the guy needs it in 2 days and is just gonna browse the web with it maybe play runescthe, don't really care much just asked here to verify that the cpu and mobo are compatible and I don't need to update bios or something
>>82641704why are you not getting a $100 APU then?
>used market>rx480 is being sold for more than I bought it four years agoWhat the FUCK is happening here?
>>82641704> just asked here to verify that the cpu and mobo are compatible and I don't need to update bios or somethingread mobo compatability list.and even a 100 dollar intel chip with iGPU would be a better option than a fucking 1600. i dont see why you were talking about the intel K sku not having GPU when you have a fucking AMD without GPU in your list....
The GT 630 I salvaged from an old PC fucking died on me after two days of use. I was hoping not to buy anything since gpu availability and pricing is absolute ass here in the third world. FML>Even fucking GT 1030s are $15 over priced
>>82641859>only 15 dollars overpricedwhat are you crying about? they're like 1,000% overpriced in burgerland
>mfw my oldass GTS250 still workstruly a blessing
>mfw my 3090 is still working great
>>82642037if you bought a good brand like Asus you’ll be fine
>>826415622560x1440p at 144hz or higher.Also this is going to sound stupid, but is the listed physical dimension a diagonal measurement or width?
>>82642061Worst case they just have to give me a new one
how do i know if im leaving performance on the table by getting a 165 hz monitor? should i settle for 144hz in 1440 or go for 165? is it noticeable? I have a 1070 ti
>>82642085that's not how it works
>>82642090ok explain plz
>>82642102you dont get any different performance just because your monitor have a certain refresh rate
>>82642111oh thanks that helps a lot
>>82642114also there's no negative effect of running variable refresh between 144-165hz vs maxing out 144hz, especially if you have freesync.
which PCIE should I buy? will mostly be used for vms and i'm choosing between :Kingston NV1 2TB NVMe PCIe Samsung 1TB PciEmobo can only support Gen3 though. I'm thinking if I should buy the 2TB one for larger capacity but I've read better reviews from the Samsung onethanks
>>82642208heard nv1 isnt great.and "samsung 1TB" doesnt mean shit, post an existing model.also it's called NVMe not PCI-e.
Alright, which of these three monitors would you want?>MSI Optix G273QF 27">ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQ 27">ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ1A 27"
>>82642240here you go kingSamsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 1TB NVMe 1.3 PCIe Gen 3.0
>>82642332that one is good.>>82642307whichever has highest refresh with IPS and lowest latency and highest resolution
>>82642412They are all IPS, 1ms, 2560x1440p, one at 165hz and two at 170hz
>>82641579>>82641595>>82641619i've bought my last 3 win10 pro licenses for literally 3 euros from those faggot cdkey websites and they all worked without any problems. just pick one where you can use paypal so you don't give the russian carders your card number.
Is the coolermaster hyper 212 a bad budget cooler anons? Its ranked pretty low on the LTT but pcpartpicker and amazon reviewers didnt seem to have many gripes. I'm going to be using a i7-10700k.
>>82642065Diagonal same as TVs
what two 8gb sticks of ram should i buy for a 5600x?
Time to upgrade?
>>82642497get a corsair one and a gskill one their combined powers will give you unlimited fps the corsair one should be 2666 and the gskill should be 3600. 3600+2666= 6266Mhz of pure power
>>82642538if i nix the rgb is that raw powerflops more?
>>82642425least gaymery looking one then or best warranty>>82642465it's not bad if you pay less than 30 bux for it. if you pay more you might aswell get something better in the first place.there's a dozen copies of it all going for under 30 bux too like gammax 400 and freezer 34 etc.with an unlocked i7 you should get something better tho.>>82642533yeah, install hwinfo
Got about five months on my poorfag eBay parts build. Seems like a winner.
are there any options for tower cases with carrying handles or am i stuck with gamer shit like Cougar Panzer MAX? or shit like Cooler Master HAF XB EVO? i need something i can move around that won't get destroyed, with space for a 6900xt, for projection mapping and other on-site projects where i'm not gonna buy a fuckin laptop that goes obsolete in 2 years
>>82642608or you could get a carrying case or strap...
Is the h610 a mistake? Airflow seems shit, but its cheap, spacious, and has everything I need (multiple drive slots, great cable management, and a bunch of psu space.
>>82642677you mean h510? cant find shit on h610. yes, it has bad airflow.there's a fuckton of better alternatives like 500dx, 4000D, lancool ii, meshify 2, p400a etc.also keep in mind how many fans cases come with stock cus many only come with 1 front intake and 1 rear exhaust which will increase total price.
Is purchasing a soundcard really necessary?
>>82642711Not at all. I like them because I’ve always used them, but onboard should do just about everything you need.
>>82642701Made a typo in the worst place, apologies anon. I've been looking at the 4000D for a while now. I'll consider it much more heavily. Thank you
>>82642739it's a good case, tho i think it doesnt come with that many fans which will increase the cost a bit if you want to add some more (which you should), also the closed front version isnt terrible since the slits are diagonal instead of 90 degree angle to the side. the mesh version is ofc still a bit better
>>82642465Anon... You buy yourself something good for a K-series, or trade it for something else
>>82642307the one available in physical stores near me so I can save myself time and check before buying and not after
>>82642456you're still an idiot because you payed money for it.
>>82642711No. And people would rather use external DAC instead.r8khh
>>82642677get a cooler master nr200
>>82642456I hope you realize you're basically paying for volume license windows key, which is basically the same as pirated ones anyway since you're getting no support from M$ if shit gets fucked.https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/are-cheap-windows-10-pro-oem-keys-illegal-to-buy/b0e63446-7b24-4102-93f7-00c571fc9b76
Wait for Zen 4 or upgrade now from Haswell?
>>82642896wait for alder lake
>>82642911Might as well upgrade to Zen 3 if you're going to wait for Alder Kek.
>>82642911>>82642922Big Little sounds like shit
>>82642946it's faster than 5950x
>>82642965>new things are fasterThank you, Captain Obvious.
>>82642986i remember AMDrones saying alder lake wouldn't even beat Zen 3
>>82642965>>82642946lakefield is already discontinued after ONE year. there's no hope for intel.
I bought this "used" PC for about 500 bucks, according to the seller. It was never used and just opened for pics. The most likely scenario is that it was a prebuilt with the GPU removed for resale. My question is, was it worth the price I paid? This is my first Desktop PC and I plan to wait for GPU prices to drop before getting one. Here's the specs:1. Processor: Core i5 7400 3.0 GHz2. Mother Board: Asus Prime B250M-A3. Ram: 8gb SH Hykins4. SSD M.2 Intel 256gb + 32gb Optane5. HDD : 1Tb6. Corsair Carbide Spec-Delta RGB7. Cooler master liquid cooler with Radiador8. PSU XZEAL XZ650W 80Plus Bronce
>>82642991dont forget that 2 horsepower chiller and 1600W PSU you'll need to run it.>>82643074not really. you can get an old optiplex with equally good CPU for half that price.and that PSU is a housefire hazard.
>>82643074>$40 mobo>$30 RAM>$30 SSD>$25 HDD>$50 case>$50 cooler>$30 PSU>$100 CPU>total $355and like >>82643088 said you can get an old office PC with same CPU for $250
>>82642986>new things that use more than twice the amount of power is fasterfixed
if i put too much fan for the mobo plug and go above the 1A limit, does the mobo will shut down or limit the fans RPM ?
>>82643074Its garbage. The CPU, motherboard, RAM, SSD, and PSU are all terrible.This is an overpriced office computer worth maybe half that.
>>82643287You don't need more than 6 case fans
>>82643287It should limit the current to 1a and the fans may not run at the proper speed.
I can get a prebuilt right now with:MSI X570 Tomahawk Wifi5600X3070ti16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600mhzAnd the other stuff of course but they're pretty basic and would need upgrading ASAP. I can get it for $1900.Should I pull the trigger? I can't hold on much longer.
>>82643549Is it custom prebuilt or one with proprietary mobo and shit tier PSU?
>>82643549go for it>>82643572>x570 tomahawk>"is it proprietary mobo?"really nigga?
Is this a good cheap starter build? I have no idea what I'm doing.
>>82643627Get at least 16 GB of ram.
>>82643074Ignore these nerds shitting on it, that PC is pretty nice for modern games, it's good enough for now
>>82643627>>82643646OkayDo they come assembled or do I still have to put them together? I plan on throwing my 1030 2gb for now. Is that fine?
>>82643672cope retard, it doesnt even have a fucking GPU.
>>82643682I feel sorry for your circumstances
>>82643682I have no idea. You'd have to look that up on newegg site yourself. That being said, assembling a PC is easy as fuck nowadays so might as well do it yourself.>I plan on throwing my 1030 2gb for now. Is that fine?If you have no other choice, of course.
>>82643688Captain obvious reporting
>>82643682This is what I have right now and it can run mgsv at 30fps pretty consistently with everything on high at 1080p. How much stronger is the one Im building would you guys say?
>>82643707thank you captain retard. now go back and learn what the fuck old used hardware is worth before you post again.
>>82643715Your 1030 is going to be the bottleneck but I have no idea how much since I'd never even considered using it.
>>82643728Its just temporary. whats a good gpu for this kind of build?
>>82643755why are you still posting? the fucking PC he bought is still not worth even close to what he paid, and it's fucking unusable.retard
>>82643741Whatever you can get your hand on that wouldn't require you to sell your organs.Bare minimum is probably something like GTX 1660, or even 1050 ti. Don't know what AMD's equivalences are so I'm not going to comment on it.
>>82643776Your tears fuel me, thanks
>>82643771Thanks dude but that set up i picked willl work you think? do the parts go together?
>>82643813Yes. Only thing you should be worrying about regarding compatibility is getting mobo with correct chipset for the CPU, which pcpartpicker already handles for you anyway. For the rest of the parts just make sure you get them for reputable brands with good warranties.
>>82643074you got scammedhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/cZLVNP>>82643780it's still not worth more than $350
>>82643861Yes sir. Thank you.
>>82643886He didnt have to pay nerd tax at least(knowing every part +labor)
>>82643915>implying he couldnt have just asked someone here to do it for him like everyone else>implying paying $250 retard tax is bettercope
>>82643975Plumbers will charge you 150 bucks for an hour, who's getting ripped here?
>>82643861>>82643861Wrong person lol I can always uprade the harddrive a most of the parts right?
>>82643998What kind of games will I be able to play with this pc?My monitor is only 1080p and I don't mind 30fps.
>>82643984>plumbers charge 150 an hourok, and? so do i during night shift.
>>82644048I'm just saying, learning about PCs and putting them together is $$$ wasted, which you didn't factor in
>>82643998CPU and mobo always come and go together. The rest can be easily upgraded provided the motherboard isn't too ancient.
>>82644057>implying he has toit's lego, and there's always people here to spoonfeed him, and there's also people he can pay 50 fucking bux to assemble it for him, retard.
>>82644096Time is money nerd
>>82644102>time is money>give solution to waste less money that doesnt take more time>TIME IS MONEY NERDholy shit you are beyond retarded.
>>82644069Will I need any special tools to put it together?
>>82644145you only ever need a philips screwdriver to assemble a computer
>>82644145A single small to medium sized Philips head screwdriver should be enough.And don't forget your epic gamerfuel.
>>82644131You are incorrectThere is no way your solution is better than just buying the PCAsk anyone making it as a PC user, they don't need to know all this stuff
i’m really going to have to pay $1500 to get a 3080 aren’t i?fuck me man
>>82644161>>82644150No thermal paste or nothing?Thanks guys I do home remodeling so I think I'll have one lol I just ordered it everything but the power supply will arrive torromow.
>>82644187what do you need a card for? prices should definitely go down in the next few months
>>82644222CPU Cooler usually comes with a tube or packet of thermal paste. You don't need anything special to apply it, just squeeze it on the CPU and slap the cooler on.As for the quantity and how, people will never stop arguing about that shit so just watch this video instead and see how it barely matters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUWVVTY63hcIt's 15 minutes longer than it should be but I can't be fucked to find shorter and more concise one right now.
>>82644261>>82644261Okay! Once it all gets here can I run some questions by you guys here?
>>82643313>>82643315well thanks anyway i mess up with the fans and plugs and my CPU is 8°C coolerfucking noctua industrial draw so much watt, they were capped at 30%
are portable monitor worth it?i just want to get it so i can play my switch on a bigger screen thats allmy current monitor doesnt have a speaker so i cant use it with the switch + sound it looks like a gimmick with the touch screen and how it can mirror some android phones but besides using it for my switch i have no idea what i would use it for. price of it is similar to buying an entry level 75hz 24inch 1080 monitor
>>82644290No I forbid it.
>>82644290Yeah, sure. I might not be here but other people will probably be able to answer you.My advice, read the fucking manual. Especially the motherboard's one which tell you what all those scary connectors are for and where to plug shit in. Though shit's basically lego™ nowadays so it'd be very hard to plug stuff into incorrect socket.
>>82644300buy a small tv
>>82644303As you wish.>>82644326Okay I dumb but hopefully I can do it lolImma go to bed I'll be back when the parts get here thanks guys first build!
Comments on my new current fans setup?Good to go or any changes?
>>82644473why intake on top?
>>82644473Why top intake?
>>82644473Your top intake might be doing more harm than good. Consider testing your temps with it running and off.
>>82644473remove the top intake
>>82640383YWNBAW>>82640491>buying winshit>gt1030>nvme drive
>>82644495>>82644510>>82644513>>82644577thanks, will remove the top intake
>>82644732Test it first. It might be beneficial given your downdraught cooler.
>>82640408>intel has 7nm products in 2021what the fuck is this?
>>82644473Like others said, remove the top intake.If you really want to maximize this build, make sure the intakes are pressure optimized fans, and the exhausts are flow optimized fans.
>>826411203070 and 6700xt are both around a 2080ti. And will get about the same fps give or take 5 percent. 6700xt does have more vram though which will help it in 1440p if u plan to keep it for a few years. 6000 series cards are rock solid on the driver front.
>>82641123You're an idiot, it didn't destroy anything. If your motherboard, or cpu mem controller can't handle the xmp ram speed's, it just won't post, you will get a black screen. All you have to do is clr cmos to get back into bios, and manually enter in the ram speed's and timings until you find settings that will boot.
>>82641124Rx 570 would the closest in price/performance
>>82641251>>82641313Multi reply fags are cancer to this board
>>82641466I understood just fine what he meant.Maybe your just an autistic scizho
>>82642863it takes me significantly less time to make 3 euros than to do some faggot shit with upgrading from 7 or looking up how to hook it up to a KMS server or whatever bullshit. not everyone is a NEET subhuman retard like you. >>82642885if what shit gets fucked? what would i possibly ever need from fucking microsoft support you retard?
>>82645279you're a clueless retard who can't do a simple research and rather pay money to some shmuck to rip you off. No wonder you only take 3 euro per blowjob
>>82645287you can't dispute the fact that it took me less time to get rid of the windows activation watermark than it took you with your "research". you also can't dispute the fact that you are a coping poorfag who's objectively a worse person than me in every way that matters.
>>82645287actually, post your method of cracking windows so we can look at how much efficient and better it is compared to mine. i know you won't because you just realized i am right and you will keep pretending you won and deflecting instead.
>>82645307kick rocks retard, I'm wasting my time to read all that faggy shit you typed, go suck more cocks in case your shitty key won't work again
>>82643074why the FUCK would you spend 500 bucks for that trash?
>>82645329>i know you won't because you just realized i am right and you will keep pretending you won and deflecting instead.like clockwork. thanks for playing you poor faggot.
>>82645329do you think I'm some kind of retard whos going to spoonfeed a dumb bitch like you?make an effort once in your worthless pathetic life you subhuman trash
>>82645344you are in a state of such blind rage and butthurt right now that you can't even see which posts you're replying to. i don't need to be spoonfed because i have a BETTER way of activating windows than you. you are the one claiming there is a better one but you won't post it because you know you are full of shit and lost. worthless loser faggot.
>>82640318Is this a good time to buy a Mini-PC? Are there good ones? I'm trying to see if a portable pc that runs on batteries is viable, since there's no laptop that has what I want. Some have non-ISO keyboards, some are too weak, some are too expensive. I have a 38x28x4 volume to fill so I thought maybe it could work
>>82645393why not buy a steam deck at that point?
>>82644182what part of having autists here do the work and then paying someone else to build it is any different than you, except your retarded suggestion costs $150 more for the same fucking result, you fucking braindead nigger
>>82644796not when the other one is exhausting hot air right next to it.>>82645156dilate>>82645279>>82645324you dont need research when all you gotta do is get fucking mstoolkit and run it
>>82640383>Not a single tube lined up>crooked bends>RGB puke>AnimeCongrats, this is probably the most infuriating build I have ever seen
>>82645490>mstoolkitenjoy your malware because you are so poor that 3 bucks is not the same as free to you
>>82643074is this b8
>>82645661>malwarestop being retarded and dont download from a fucking russian site, dipshit
>>82645407Instead of a Mini PC? It's a nice device but it has a bunch of stuff I don't need, like the game controllers or the small screen. I want an ISO laptop-sized keyboard and a big screen. I was looking at the hp elite folio, but it's weak, expensive, and has a crippled enter key
>>82645713>just blindly trust this random piece of software someone made on the internet, it should be fine since it's not from russiamust be so nice to live as a retard
>>82645742clearly you are too fucking retarded and clueless you dont even know about MDL forums. stop posting
>>82645732>ISO layoutYikes. I didn't know that there were people that unironically enjoy typing on that abomination.
how are other anons holding up in this gay gpu market? I've been planning to upgrade my rx 580 for quite some time to a 3060 ti or 3070.However I absolutely refuse to pay mr shekelberg or some scalper tranny above mrsp even though I would have cash to spare.anyone else here /strongmind/ and playing the waiting game?
>>82645772My 1660ti will be soldiering on for another year or two. Especially considering there's no interesting AAA games coming on the horizon.
do modern cases allow cd drives and floppy drives to be installed?its mainly for retro gaming (not everything is dumped or emulated)
>>82645837Most don't but you can certainly find cases that do.
What are your thoughts on Team, Silicon Power, ADATA, OLOy, and GeIL memory?Whenever I search for memory on partpicker these brands are always listed as the cheapest options. Are they truly shit or am I giving too much credit to other brands like Crucial and GSkill and Corsair?
>>82645749ah yes, you're right. some piece of shit software being stickied on a forum where poor faggots go to share their strategies on how to save $3 is basically a security audit. it's not even open source. not that you are anywhere close in intelligence and knowledge required to decide if the code is safe or not in the first place. just cope after cope after a display or absolute ignorance. keep it going retard.
>>82645914They all use chips from the same 3 manufacturers. Team Group and Adata aren't even particularly "obscure" manufacturers. I will warn you that when you sort by lowest price you really don't know what you're getting in terms of memory modules so don't expect much manual OC headroom if that's your thing. If you're just looking to turn XMP on and leave it then they're fine.
>>82645929>NOOOO YOU CANT POSSIBLY VERIFY IT DOESNT DO ANYTHINGthanks for showing your ignoramus levels once again, you fucking brainlet. stop posting already.
>>82645447Alright Mr.Fixit, fix me a water.
>>82646019let me fix your brain first
>>82646008you are so fucking braindead that you don't understand the simple difference between us is that i cannot afford to risk installing malware from faggots because there is actual valuable shit being accessed on my system and it would have real life consequences if it got compromised while you have a net worth in the range of a used car and all you are risking is your anime collection and a steam account by being a retard who copes himself into thinking it's a smart thing to let strangers on the internet run code on your machine because $3 is too much money. keep screeching retard, there is nothing i enjoy more than your impotent copes.
>>82646042holy shit nigger you just moved the goalposts to another continent, and you're still a clueless faggot that dont know shit about computers, no wonder you keep posting your inane bullshit that has no basis in reality.kindly fuck off and never come back.>copekek, seethe and dilate you braindead nigger, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about and you have no clue about computers or anything related to them as you've shown multiple times by now
>>82646070>deflect, ad hominem bla bla bla i called this shit 10 posts ago, you can't refute a single point i made because you are a dumb piece of shit. enjoy the life of poverty and getting cucked by people smarter than you. but hey at least you saved $3, that's almost half of a burger you can stuff down your sweaty piehole you neckbeard fag.
>>82645772Even new AAA games will still run on my 970, even at low settings, because it's still so popular so the devs still have to keep it in mindEven most VR games run well with a Rift SEven before the GPU shitshow, I decided to wait until the end of next year, because my current setup still worksI'll probably get something like 4070/4080 with a 1440p ultrawide and a new headset because Oculus is gay and will force me to make a Zuccbook account
>>82646093>doesnt know about MDL forums>doesnt know about network monitoring>MUH FALLACIES>I CALLED IT>IM TOTALLY NOT RETARDED GUIZ
>>82646093>cant afford three dollars, poorfag?Funny you try to point out fallacies while using them yourself.
What are we fighting about?
I finally figured it out. High resolution monitors are just a scam. I'd been thinking for a while about why some people are so passionate about resolutions even though we used 1080p for years and never had a problem with it. The reason why you're seeing such a huge push for 2k and 4k gaming is because "they" want you to keep buying new products. If you bought a 1080 5 years ago, you'd still be able to play any game coming out today, at high if it not max settings, and still get 60fps. But that's bad for business, so they get shills to go online and start pushing this 1440p meme. Games aren't getting more graphically intensive enough fast enough to justify buying a new card every 2 years or so like they want, so they figured out they can make older cards artificially obsolete by just increasing the amount of pixels. And the monitor companies love it too because they can sell a 1080p monitor for $150 or they can sell some retard a 4k monitor that cost 10 bucks more to produce for $500.But ask yourself if the extra 300 lines resolution was really worth spending an extra $600+ on new equipment when your 5 year old card and 5 year old monitor worked just fine.
>>82646154Retards who don't know the value of money.
>>82646116>doesn't know abhout MDL forumsyou decided that this is a true statement as a cope while in reality i was a poor teenager retard once too who had to look up how to activate windows with KMSPico and god knows what garbage. feel free to pretend that this is not true so you don't have to kill yourself. >>doesnt know about network monitoringanother cope, altho this one is at least funny because it suggests that a retard like you would be able to notice anything beyond the most obvious shit. altho probably not even that.>more low IQ copingok retard. i think it's time to stop giving you attention. back to your pathetic life of misery you go. bye bye>>82646140that is not what i am saying at all but i wouldn't expect the geniuses of /pcbg/ to understand text in the first place.
>>82646169No, it's called increasing standards with time passing...
>>82646174you decided anything anyone else says is a false statement because you're an ignorant retard that doesnt know shit about anything tech related. get off this board
>>82646185said a mongoloid who installs malware on his computer because he doesn't have $3. epic stuff.
>>82646198said a retard that thinks he knows shit
Would be 650w psu enough for this build
>>82646207tell that to my CCNP you greasy basement nigger
>>82646220>NO THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN CHECK IF IT'S SAFE>IM KNOW STUFF IM NOT DUMB>hypocritical retardimagine being you
>>82646179No, higher resolution doesn't accomplish anything for the average gamer. If you work with AutoCAD/Blender or something else that actually benefits from higher resolutions, then sure, you could make a case for that, but they don't require high end GPUs in the same sense and for gaming it's just a waste. 24-27" screen is pretty much the optimal for desktop use and at those distances and sizes, 1080p is well enough. t:different anon
>>82646248>MAYBE IF I TYPE THIS TRUE STATEMENT IN CAPSLOCK AND ADD LE EPIC MAYMAY IT'S SOMEHOW GOING TO MAKE ME RIGHTjesus christ man, i didn't want to break your brain this bad. i apologize.
>>82646259Tsk Tsk Tsk, people want as sharp a picture as can get.Hence reality goggles and shit4k is the future1440p is great
>>82646268maybe if you werent a fucking retard you'd grasp the fact there are far more smarter people than you out there and that mdl forums is the biggest place for cracking windows software and your CCNP means jack fucking shit since you cant even believe someone with actual knowledge can monitor a fucking windows box to see if it's infected. crawl out of your own ass you fucking braindead insecure projecting faggot.
>>82646290>>82646268oh and your MUH THREE DOLLARS is a fucking moot point aswellkys, retard
>>82645754Go to hell, heathen. Your words are as dirty as the keyboard layout you typed them on.
>>826461691080p is high resolution, hypocrite.
I've got a 3950x and a 420 AIO artic cooler, but with summer it hit 80°C at full load, it's kinda noisy.What should i do, try to build a custom loop (later), or 80°C is fine ?
>>826463171080p is literally stone age resolution
>>82646342kek, i know i should
>>82646343I agree. There's probably diminishing returns for typical desk sizes and/or viewing distances but 1080p/24" is not there yet. Once Windows gets fully integrated fractional DPI scaling 4k/27", and maybe even higher, will be viable. I'm not holding my breath though; ~100ppi has been the standard for a long time and Microsoft seems more worried about including enough brown people in their ads than actually advancing the state of the art.
>>82646406Wrong, for immersion 1080p is not cutting it anymore
>>82646417I'm agreeing with you anon.
>>82646423That wasn't me
>>82646213Yes though you're kind of getting close to the edge should you heavily stress both the card and CPU at the same time. Should work though, don't OC too much as this can significantly increase power consumption.
I have a 1TB SSD with windows installed, a 500GB SSD, and a 2TB SSD.How do you guys suggest I organize stuff?I'm using the 1TB SSD for everything, but I dont know what I should put in the 500GB SSD... Maybe some games?The 2TB HDD I'm going to move to a home server because windows is always accessing it and slowing down everything.
>>82646486Thanks, I wasn't planinng to oc, should work fine.
>>82646280>people want as sharp a picture as can get.Do they? Or have they been brainwashed by marketing companies into thinking that's what they want? 4K to me is no different than the big 3D push from 2010. It's a gimmick with no real benefits, it doesn't make a better viewing experience in any way, but it's a way to get people to get rid of their old stuff and buy new stuff. 4K just happens to be sticking to the wall better than 3D.
>>82646549Mmm it dependsMost real world games in 3D break immersion at 1080p in my eyes
>>82646290you are so fucking retarded, poor and tech illiterate that it's sad because you actually seem to base your personality on this shit. pathetic beyond words.
>>82646608>gamesI meant more like TVs in general. You don't remember when Avatar came out and 3D was going to change the world? CES 2010/2011 was like 95% 3D TVs.
>>82646290you are opening your OS to a complete stranger on the internet to save $3 and you trust this complete stranger because a forum full of hackers says it's fine. can you guide me through this thought process where you are not an absolute fucking drooling, windowlicking, mouthbreathing mongoloid in this case?
>>82646549Better specs is the last thing effective marketers want to use to sell their shit. It commodifies your product to the point of fungibility. Creates a race to the bottom where margins are razor thin and nobody actually makes any money.
>>82646669Yeah I guess, 3D was cool and I dunno why we didn't follow it, I guess the VR goggles are better
>>82646290>>82646685and the most fucking ironic thing about all of this is that you don't actually need any fucking mstoolkit bullshit to activate it. you can just call some faggot kms server and never run any potentially malicious shit on your machine. but again, looking up how to do that would take more time than making $3 unless you flip burgers. but of course you don't even know about that while claiming that you know about tech. fucking poetry.
>>82643074You fucked up. If you follow sales on new hardware you'll see brand new desktops with i5-10400s or whatever selling for ~$400. In used computers I'd be expecting to pay about $150-250 for that thing you bought, but I wouldn't because you could get a Dell with an i7-6700 for the same money.
>>82646750Alternatively you can run kms.
>>82646750I thought the free upgrade stopped years ago
>>82646762windows copies are cheap.
How to get legal Windows 10 for free: Scrape a W7 license sticker off an old computer being scrapped. Install Windows 7 on your new computer and activate it. Run the free Windows 10 upgrade tool. Presto, you now have a licensed copy of Windows 10 forever hardware locked to your computer.
>>82646697Unless the """better""" specs aren't actually any better and don't cost hardly any more to produce but have a grossly overinflated perceived value that means you're actually making ass tons of profit per unit. As long as no one breaks the pact and starts making reasonably priced ultra high res monitors then it's easy money for the whole industry. But eventually someone will and then the price will fall out and they'll find some new gimmick to sell new products. But you're a fool if you don't believe bigger numbers are the king of marketing. You can't nearly as easily get people to buy a new product that's better than the old one just because it's better, but if the number is bigger then they'll fall over themselves trying to get it. They don't know what type of panel it has or what the viewing angles are and even though they just stream low bitrate content from youtube and hulu, they see 4K 240hz on the box and think "those numbers are bigger than my numbers, i gotta have it!"
>>82646763Nope. They just stopped automatically rolling it out. If you run the upgrade tool yourself it's still in effect.
>>82646765KMS is cheaper.
Is the distance from the ram slots to the processor socket standardized? (AM4 mobos) if not what's the best way to check if a CPU cooler/AIO pump will block the closest ram slot or not?
>>82646780They need to recover from the costs associated with advancing resolutions, eg. manufacturing the denser screens with micro sized pixels
gonna sound retarded but i just got my parts can i just socket what I have now into my mobo to save time doing it later? I can't plug it all in and move it into my current PC case (using my current GPU/hard drives) until SaturdayJust wondering if essentially slotting everything into the mobo before putting it into the case will make it fucky to plug in all the wires or not
>>82646820google cooler name + ram clearancefigure out how tall your ram is
>>82646646>>82646685>sad pathetic retard refusing to admit he's wrong and that there are people smarter than him out there>>82646706>NOOOOOOO DONT USE MSTOOLKIT YOU CANT TRUST IT>use kms instead , totally more trustworthy you guizfucking kek
>>82646780>4K 240hzUnironically the end all be all desktop resolution and refresh rate
I would like to build 5 fairly top-end computers. I tried calling places like Newegg and TigerDirect, etc. to try and get bulk discounts, but they won't give me any. I know about alibaba. I see some cards, ram, mobo's, etc on there. Some parts I can find for way cheaper, some parts are listed way more expensive than if I just bought on scamazon. I'm more concerned with the reliability of these parts, and whether or not they are genuine. For example: AMD Ryzen 9 5900XI can find this part for $950 on Alibaba. But on Amazon it lists for $570. Going through the list of info, it seems to be the exact same product on Alibaba. So why so much more expensive? There are some reverse examples of that, too. So my question is how to build my computers and get discounts on bulk buying 5 of everything I need?
Alright, /pcbg/. I have a Ryzen 1600 with a B450 mobo, 1060 6gb and 16gb of ram running at 3200mhz.I want to emulate the Switch with Yuzu and Ryujinx, as well PS2 and PS3 at good speeds.I plan to wait for 5600x prices to go down which should be by end of this year. I estimate that AMD will mark it down to $200 or less.Do you think it is a good choice to wait?
>>82646938>Bulk>5Is this bait?
>>82640520>>82640509professionals who make their money with tools pay money for the tools instead of stealing them, yes
>>82646949you can already emulate PS2 at nearly the best speed, because pcsx2 is ass and doesn´t quite take advantage of multithreading iirc.As for the switch, I recall it being still fairly new and not very optimal. Dunno about PS3.Personally I would definitely buy a 5600 if it gets cheaper, regardless of emulation
>>82646869>use kms instead , totally more trustworthy you guizhahaha you don't even know what KMS is. if you had 10% of an idea what a clueless nigger you are you would kill yourself out of embarrassment. please stop humiliating yourself, this is self harm at this point.
>>82646780Well sure but we're talking about increasing pixel count which absolutely costs more to produce. Specs sell, for sure, but they don't really get you ahead in any way because they're too easy to compete on. LG releases an 8k monitor, how does Samsung compete? They up their own resolution. That costs money both fixed and ongoing. The effect? We're all using 8k monitors which, regardless of your opinions on the matter, are objectively better in at least one way. Samsung and LG have just blown a load of money on R&D but neither significantly improved their position in the market. If Samsung's marketers has been a little more clever they might have "proprietized" the 8k resolution. Called it SamCinema or something. How the fuck does LG compete with that? They can't - SamCinema means Samsung. That's true genius marketing. That's the kind of marketing that put Starbucks in every town in the country - they didn't sell you better coffee they sold you 20 minutes of feeling like you're in the ruling class. That's the kind of marketing PC component manufacturers wish they could use. Sometimes they even do. Apple is the obvious example, Retina to be specific, but Corsair also manages it closer to our own area. PSUs are a commodity but people here, tabula rasa, want a /Corsair/ one. They don't even make anything and they're worth $240 million. That's good marketing.
>>82646970Yes, enterprise software developers do not exist and software development is 100% games
>>82646869>refusing to admit he's wrong and that there are people smarter than him out theredid you ever consider that there's smart people out there trying to fuck you over? by let's say using a honeypot of MUH FREE SHIT? you are obviously way too fucking dumb to assess any risk or analyze anything, you are clearly just giving strangers online keys to your house for no other reason than not having $3. i am not sure how to get this point across to your two brain cells. maybe it's just not possible.
>>82647008I'm looking for better IPC in single-core performance and also in multi-threading productivity. I frequently do video editing as well, aside from emulation.
>>82647051I do none of those and the 5600 still looks pretty juicy, sadly I have an old mobo with no support, so I may get a 3600 or 3700 in the future, as a last upgrade. And some 3060 or something.
>>82646952More than 1.
>>82647131You get free shipping (on the other 4)
>>82646949Do you really think the R5 5600X will go down as low as <200$? I'm planning to upgrade too but the cheapest way possible of getting a new CPU from my country is a Amazon, and if something is above 200$ they end up charging you like another 100$ of importation fees.
>>82647157Why don't you just say "I don't know" and be done with it?