Reports of GPUs Being Bricked Surfacehttps://wccftech.com/beware-amazons-new-world-mmorpg-brick-your-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-card/
nvidiabros, we got too cocky.
>>82631552>$2000 GPU>doesn't have a temperature safeguard
There are actually people who bought these 2500$ cards for something else than mining?
>>82631552They deserved it for buying overpriced garbage
>>82631642This, but also who the fuck buys a $2000 GPU and cheaps out on everything else to the point where your GPU hits 100*C+?
>>82631552>gamers getting ass rapedhilarious
>>82631552>buy 350W housefire>correction buy 450W custom turbohousefire>act surprised when it literally cooks itself
>all websites use same tweet>OP article links to windows central>which links to reddit asking about it>it's all EVGA cards>it’s an EVGA 3090 FTW3>Encountered same issue, EVGA 3090 FTW>I have 3090 not evga and no problems. Girlfriends has 3090 Evga FTW and she crashed twice. >Add me to the list. EVGA 3090 FTW3 - ran fine for about 30 mins > black screen game audio still going > fans shot up to 100% right after black screen > hard reset and now no video
Amazon makes games now?
>>82631552nvidia: the way youre meant to be played
they deserve it for playing that trash game
>>82631828>>82631836Nvidia should have gone the route of AMD and just not release cards in the first place
>>82631724people who expect a $2k gpu to not fucking combust on their own??
>>82631552Can't have nvidia GPU without nVidia GPU bricking itself.
>>82631552Is the anticheat killing gpus just like riot vanguard?
>they didn't buy the **50 seriesyikes!!!If I wanted better I'd go AMD
>>82631801I got the FE for 1500 and never had any problems
Remember when StarCraft 2 used to brick GPUs because the menus ran at 10000+ fps
>>82631552It's Fermi all over again
>buy a scalped GPU for thousands of dollars>capacitors are trash and it bricks at 100% load
>>82631552AIBs are scumWhy the fuck do they exist?Most of the problems occurring with Ampre goes back to AIBs adding their "value" and "enhancements"
If software can brick hardware, that's the hardware's fault
AMD has tools to limit gpu tempsWhy does it take having to download MSI Afterburner just to do the same for NVIDIA?
>>82634661The issue probably isn't temps, but a design fuck up or bad batch of components.GPUs since Fermi have been able to throttle or forceably reset the driver
>>82634367remember how the manufacturers always send out the paid damage control squad everytime something like that happens>muh power virusto deflect from their shitty engineering
>>82631552>>82631585Good riddance, amplel is retarded housefire garbage. Nviggers BTFO
NOVIDEO HOUSEFIRE STRIKES AGAIN
>intlel is pozzed housefire trash>nshitia is pozzcap 600w housefire trashARGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>82631552Honestly with the way they have been selling I would not be surprised if QA went put the window and they just threw whatever components together that they had. There will probably be more bad cards this generation than in previous ones due to scarcity and the high demand. They don't have to worry about bricking your card because they know you'll buy it anyway.
>>82634779Shut up goy
>>82633571This post is very antisemitic.
>>82631836You can ONLY consoom new NVIDIOT cards everything else is racist driver overhead doesn't matter exploding capacitors and power surging to 600 watt on novideo literally does not matter please just wait for NEW LOW END do not ever buy pascal architecture get a 250gb ssd that cannot fit 2 remux films on it please build around your display because that somehow makes fucking sense and do not BOTHER if not MUH GAY-SYNC xaxa
My intel hd 3000 has no such issues. It just works.
>>82634596The power of jewsen $3000 600w spiking housefire gpoo.
>he fell for amplel nuclear reactors
>>82634919>They don't have to worry about bricking your card because they know you'll buy it anyway.kek the absolute state of nvidiacucks
>>82631552Card manufacturer is liable. Should be designed to withstand any digital input.Hopefully the hardware can be restored.
>got laptop with amd apu>gpu drivers are still absolute garbage>have to swap laptops mainboard with an intel one to get rid of amd junk>intel one just werks
>>82635385>Hopefully the hardware can be restored.Nah, /g/ knew pozzere is housefire garbage, anyone who bought 3090 or even a 3080 deserves it.
>>82635419I just want a 6800xt for a decent price, please god. We're in this weird situation where AMD are actually better cards but they make fewer of them. It sucks.
>>82635403Keep coping chaim, inlel will always be inferior pozzed housefire garbage.
>>82635437Its ivy bridge so not the recent housefire junk
>>82635450>ivy bridge>jizz TIM which makes it way hotter than sandy bridge soldered cpuslol
>>82635498Even worse. Laptops get hotter even quicker than desktops.
>>82633733so assoomers just throw money into a problem and just assoom it will fix everything? what a bunch of retards
>>82634508Fermi peaked at ~300W though.
>>82635610Almost. Goddamn modern cards are literal space heaters.
>>82634560I have ampere which i bought for ML that has also paid for half it's price already while mining. I'm doing fine, granted it's a bit loud at 80% fans, although it's rare to reach those fan speeds unless ambient temps are 30+
oh noooo that suuuucks
>>82635561Do you realize your argument is that it's acceptable for a discrete gpu - sold as a complete unit - to not actually be a complete unit, which needs other parts just for the discrete gpu to function as advertised (read: at all)?Are you just a shill, or are you a do-nothing idiot so up-your own ass that you're defending scummy corporate behavior because of some unearned sense of superiority? I legitimately can't tell.
>>82635883lol sick burn
Did the beta with my asus 3090, nothing happened to mine. This was a while ago though, so either its the EVGA cards as others have speculated, or has to do with a recent patch.
>>82635856>granted it's a bit loud at 80% fansYIKES
>>82635883more likely is that he's intentionally posting stupid shit to get people like you to angrily respond
Apparently it's caused by the menus running at a stupid high framerate and it's overheating the VRAM. The GPU should throttle this at a BIOS level but it seems like EVGA cards forgot about this so it runs until it pops like how old AMD CPUs used to run until it physically melts the socket instead of shutting down after 100C.
so.. THIS is the power of PC gaming..
how do you prevent malware from destroying the GPU
>>82635843>people made housefire memes nonstop for this
>>82631552>buy overclock=overheat toy>adorn it with LEDs like a temple>surprised toy literally becomes an oven
>>82636355by having firmware level protection aka don't buy a shitty brand
>>82631552I have three 3090s, my main rig is an EVGA one, and the living room and my wifes are ASUS. I need to get on to EVGA and return my main rig card before it cooks itself in that case.
>>82635746You wouldn't nakadashi Shimakaze's bussy
>>82636481are you that frame chasers guy?
>>82631739ThisHallelujah, praise god!
>>82635491>TIMhuh>>82636355by not using it>>82635450don't reply to them, they clearly have brain damage>>82635403based. even on linux or bsd intel just can't stop winning.bonus: amd+novideo/ati junk has screen tearing and frameskips on linux while intel on linux with just igpu can decode h264 fast (and h265 1080 24fps) even with a fucking core solo processor.
>>82636463EVGA is shitty brand?
>>82631665consoomers get a nice nerve impulse in their prostate every time they buy an overpriced, overhyped thing
>>82635403You happen to be using an open source os like linux or whatever? If so, it most likely defaulted to a shitty open source driver. Tell it to use a proprietary one and it'll work fine.
>>82636522for the 3000 the FTW3 isn't as good as it was.
I don't even understand how it's possible for a card to die from a game unless the driver somehow goes full retard and overvolts the everliving shit out of it, which I'm almost completely certain isn't happening here since voltage control doesn't depend on the particular game running. Any decent card can easily handle full load, so the only explanation I can see is that the card design is shit. If something literally popped, I'd guess it's a VRM MOSFET which was likely poor quality or insufficiently cooled, it's actually fairly common for VRMs on graphics cards to either not be actively cooled at all or at least not connected to the main heatsink.>>82636522If boards are literally popping due to running a video game, then yes. There is literally nothing a video game can do to break a properly built/designed card. Didn't EVGA have 2080 Tis frying themselves and black screening a few years ago as well? I remember there was some scandal around the Turing launch as well, even though the reference boards for those cards were overbuilt as fuck.
>>82636512intel works better because there is no pajeet-made opensource driver for it. amd wont release proprietary blobs afaik, so they have to use pajeetshit.
>>82636782>There is literally nothing a video game can do to break a properly built/designed cardTechnically every frame render cycle causes a transient spike, having several thousand 500w+ transient spikes per seconds can't be good for power delivery components.
>>82636848All modern GPUs made in the last 10 years require proprietary firmware blobs, Intel included.
>>82631801Remember when evga 1070 were literally burning with fire because they forgt thermal pafd? Who the fuck still buying them?
>tfw too poor to afford anything more than a 3060 anywayAt least my house will never burn down
>>82636148Nah just novidya fucking up.
>>82637024but nvidia is the way it's meant to be played, so it IS the power of pc gaming
>>82631552play shit games, win shit prizes
>>82637072i dont know what that means
>>82636463how do i enable this? is there some kind of read only switch/pin on the GPU what if malware can just use NVflash just like bios rootkits
Wow, that'd be terrible if I could actually buy one
we did everything right... we did everything right
>>82636958If they're undersized and cannot handle the power delivery demands of the GPU or if they're not cooled properly, sure. It's also very unlikely that the GPU is drawing shitloads of power if it's rendering at several thousand FPS, that means that the amount of work it needs to do for every frame is minuscule (or it would take longer) and in such a situation it's very likely to hit a CPU bottleneck before you hit a GPU bottleneck, so at least on average the card will probably not be power capped and will be drawing less than it does at much lower FPS in a very demanding game. Sure, it's possible for VRM transistors to die due to transients but if that happens that just means the choice of transistor is crap and inadequate for the load the card puts on it.
>>82635843Yes, but also no. A modern high-end card might draw more power, but it still gets far more performance per watt than the 480 did.It's not like you'd just get 480 performance if you limit a modern GPU to 250 watts.
>>82637343Well the game does do something that pushes temperature beyond what furmark can do so something is definitely happening on the software side of things that the hardware cannot cope with.
>>82631739They finally get what they deserve for ruining PCs.
>>82636457But muh 3% over referenceSeriously the bullshit AIBs do to leg up on another needs to be reigned in.It was hilarious when Nvidia completely blocked factory tuning on 1070 Tis, I ain't never seen GPUs so price competitive in awhile.I fully expect if this isn't handled correctly Nvidia will do some "reallocation" of silicon
>>82637388All that means is that these cards are poorly built or poorly designed. Other cards don't seem to be dying despite running the exact same game, obviously some cards are just shit.
>>82636714>You happen to be using an open source os like linux or whatever?No it was windows 10
>>82637379500W is still a space heater no matter how "fast" the card might be.
>>82637862A 500W space heater is a shitty space heater, even more so if it mostly runs at 360W and only spikes to 500 for less than a second at a time.But if you don't like it just buy a lower powered card. It's still going to be a shitload faster than a GTX 480.
>>82637862you're like the same kind of retard that would complain about a car's fuel tank being over 10 gallons of capacity, no matter how much fuel it consumes.
>>82637902>A 500W space heater is a shitty space heater400W space heaters are not that uncommon
>>82637905No it's more like even if your mother goes to church every sunday sucking 10 cocks a day still makes her a skank.
>>82637998hows the weather in mexico?
>>82638059Que te jodan
>>82635610Cooling solutions when Fermi was a thing where WAY worse.
gpu manufacturerz really need to stop skipping out on basic shit. its one thing to design the card badly, but its even worse to design it for the sole reason of cutting costs. the shit costs thousand(s) just fucking make it properly the first time. its gotta be cheaper than RMA'ing every fucking fried gpu.
>>82637983Being common doesn't make them good, just cheap. A good space heater can put out at least 1.3KW of heat.
>>82634560At least you would use a good meme with soul. But no, you are just a newfag.
>>82638308A standard cheapo space heater in Europe will commonly be 2 KW.
>>82631801more like EVGA 3090 FML lmfao
2080ti bros this is our time!
>betaYou get what you deserve
>>82638367Here you go
>>82638440>EVGA 3090 FMLNovidya = pwned
>>82631665PyTorch and Tensorflow via CUDA
>>82631552That's why you let people beta test this shit before you buy things
>>82631552>>82631642>>82631739Well fucking deserved. These gamers ruined the crypto mining market
>>82631552Kinda sad seeing all these GPUs that could have been put to good use mining cryptos being fried because gamers are too lazy to install a fan on their PCs.
>>82631552this is why I always go with asus
If you're not gaming on a Radeon HD 7850 y-you don't know what life is, bud. Human eye can't see graphics past that, anything more is just excess.
>>82635883I don't feel bad for consumers anymore. I think it's funny
>>82636148If you can' handle us at our worst you don't reverse us at our best
Why do people think they need to run games at 300fps to enjoy the experience? Isn't vsync enough?
>>82640913anything below 144fps is literally blurry and unplayable
>>82631552> As for what happened, the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 graphics card ran the title but fan speeds jumped to 100% almost in an instance followed by a black screen. On the second try at running New World, one of the components on the graphics card popped followed by the PC unable to POST. The user also encountered the same issue with a second EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 graphics card which died while attempting to play New World. Another user reports that his graphics card was completely fried while running the game.now that is very interesting. I wonder if someone can find out what is causing it. It would be the greatest of additions to malware to add a video card frying routine that bricks nvidia cards in mere seconds.>>82633733>people who expect a $2k gpu to not fucking combust on their own??you'd expect so, but then there's that pesky shit called software drivers, which i'm sure will end up being part of the reason why these cards were able to get bricked in the first place. these are the same cards that were hell popular and used for 24h/7 days a week as crypto miners. something isn't adding up.
>>82640913>Why do people think they need to run games at 300fps to enjoy the experience? Isn't vsync enough?nah, it's one of those things where you can't really go backward and appreciate it. the high resolutions and framerates are truly fuckin marvelous.
>>82640999>something isn't adding up.If the issue wasn't because of the power tuning by the retards over at EVGA or others I would be very surprisedRemember the whole poscap VS MLCC retardation? That was a red herring for the real issue which was VBIOS tuning being way to aggressive for a a card that was already being pushed hard.
>>82641068>If the issue wasn't because of the power tuning by the retards over at EVGA or others I would be very surprisedmost likely.>Remember the whole poscap VS MLCC retardation? That was a red herring for the real issue which was VBIOS tuning being way to aggressive for a a card that was already being pushed hard.yeah, i remember that.
>>82640913>doesn't realise vsync is 144-280hz these days
https://twitter.com/JayzTwoCents/status/1417996717153165313?s=20it's not just nvidia who's getting bricked
If Nvidia this is why you buy EVGA. You'll have a replacement cross shipped to you ASAP.ASUS makes godly cards, but I will never in a million years buy one due to the fact that a situation like this would royally fuck you.
>>82642282lol of course jayztwoshills comes in to save nvidia and evga
>>82642304iirc due to the shortages lots of people are only getting cash refunds
>>82631552Can't handle the heat
>>82634560>>82635189What's wrong with his hat?>Captcha: 4YAGP
>AMD and Novidia create some 300+ W meme cards while totally forgetting about real use caseswhen will I get a card that beats my 2060 and runs at 50W max ? this industry is retarded
I told you niggers to wait and not be a beta tester.Look it up in the archive I told you fucking faggots to never get the first GPU of a console generation.
>>82642587He literally did a video stating the original problem with the 3090s, the tweets are follow ups to warn people the problem isn't limited to Nvidia. The only shill here is you.
>>82640935This but unironically
>>82642788Nvidiots already seething their shit driver overhead software shits the bed compared to AMD drivers on linux. Nshitia legitimately has the shittiest drivers on both windows and linux now.
>>82642773Thanks to nshitia now it's considered "normal" to have GPUs consuming 500-600W
>>82633571I'm afraid this post is not very kosher, we will have to delete it, sorry goy :)
>>82631801The FTW cards have unlocked power limiters, don't they?
>>82643603What was there?
>>82644141more like FML lmoa
>>82644215Nobody is buying AMDshit
>>82638367that meme's pretty good but the drivers on AMD are better than nvidia, except for ROCm which is goddamn AIDS
>>82642282lmao is this a parody account? there is no way someone can unironically post this not as a joke.
>>82644522>havent had amd cpu/gpu since 2014>reluctant to get back since people are talking about driver issues>get 6700xt/r5 3600 because theyre available during shortage>update chipset/gpu/bios>everything just werksI honestly have no idea what people are freaking out about, the way people write about amd software here I was going to consider myself lucky if it booted
>>82644694>he fell for nshitia shill posts
>>82644607>>82644615What did the goy mean by this?
>>82644621Back to you, Steve.
>>82642861how's the new merch?
>>82637072>>82637948bloody hell i'm retarded.thats hilarious actually, i havent been on this forum in a while :D
>>82645685t. jeff the killer
>>82637441Ruining PCs? They have been a huge contributers to the advancement of them
>>82645840>replying to b8
my gigabyte 3080 overheats under stressmy friend's gigabyte 3090 also overheats under stress.i fixed mine with more thermal pads, his wasn't fixed even with the pads.my question is how the fuck do you ship a product that doesn't even work out of the box? thermal throttling at the slightest load is not fucking acceptable. i don't know if this is a problem with nvidia or gigabyte
>>82645918>my question is how the fuck do you ship a product that doesn't even work out of the box? thermal throttling at the slightest load is not fucking acceptableNjudea goyim cattle would buy even a literal pile of shit as long as it has the nvidia logo on it.
>>82641906You mean 240hz
>>82645918It is because 3090 was a meme-tier SKU that Nvidia threw-up at the last minute because they were genuinely scared that RDNA2 was going one-up them hard back in 2020. It turned out that RDNA2 merely competes against Ampere at gayming workloads. 3090 quickly became silly and is quietly being discontinued for 3080Ti (Their original pitch for ultra-high, customer-tier GA102)
>>82631552how else would they sell them new stocks of gpu
>>82645983>thinks 280hz doesn't exist>360hz exists
>>82636974Except nvidia with nouveau, ironically enough.
who plays shitty chink MMO's with a 3090???
>>82646347It is mostly streamers from what I have seen.
>>82645918Sounds like you have a shitty case. Mine never goes past 75C running at 100% even when my room was 30C.
>>82646347>who plays videogames anyway
>>82646108280hz doesn't exist, it's a meme.
>>82646347>amazonIt's a pajeet mmo
>>82647140no its made by Amazon Games you fuckface
>idiots thinking paying massively inflated prices for GPUs means they are somehow magically higher qualitylmao no it's the same trash as always, you're just paying 4x as much as you should be to begin with.
>>82635843>my current graphics card is on that list
>>82647650He's right thoCustom GPUs and motherboards have gone up in price but I have yet to see where there is an increase in quality
>>82647650My 8gb 580 that I paid £200 new for is fine thanks. My point still stands.
>>82647942I don't see prices ever going back to what they were a couple of years ago when something in the £250-£300 was more than enough for 1080p 60fps gaming. Media portraying a slight decrease in prices as going "back to normality" are just normalising these prices.>200% price increase>heres 20% off>thx i'll take your entire stock
>>82637085It means you have to go back
>>82631642a $0.1 PTC costs too much, gotta save those pennies!
>>82640999Mining will run these cards at like 50% power for maximum efficiency. A game is the exact opposite, where not locking the frame rate will result in pushing your GPU to its full limit and making it run as hot as possible.
>>82631665Bought one for Machine Learning
>>82648278They easily will and it won't even take that long, but gaymers will still complain about>[CURRENT YEAR]>1080p@60
>>82649919What did they machine learn?
>>82649960>>[CURRENT YEAR]>>1080p@60What's wrong with that? 1080p 60fps should be a piece of cake nowadays and not cost much at all to run.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-vs-amazons-new-world-design-caused-evga-problem/It's not RTX 3090 thats dying, it's EVGA shitty fan controller IC that's dying for whatever reason and since only EVGA uses that shit, their cards are dying
>>82650068remember when nvidia cucks were trying to blame shoddy CAPs on EVGA? Why is EVGA the company to pick on?
>>82650051Noting, I'm just saying that even if prices go back tomorrow, gamers won't be satisfied, because they now NEED 1440p@120
>>82643568They always had them from the get go. People need to stop letting these companies bend them over and fuck them under sheets with these shitty fucking cards.
>>82650162I would be happy with a moderately priced 1440p@60hz card right now. I went from an nvidia 560ti to an amd 380 and now 580 and it never cost me more than ~£200-250 and gave me solid performance for a while.I still have the 380 but with a dead fan and another one rattling. I'm planning on fixing the fans because 380s are going on ebay for ~£160-180 which is only a little less than what I bought it for a 6 YEAR old card. The last few years have been insane.
How though? I thought cards throttled before allowing themselves to overheat
>>82650088No FE cards have died, only EVGA cards died because their fan controller IC died and there was no caps problem, Nvidia fixed it with a driver updateSTAY MAD, AYYMDPOORFAGS
>>82650068The article goes under the premise that only EVGA cards are dying, which isn't the case since there's a few reports of 6900XT dying too.>>82650331Badly implemented protection won't help you, that's why you see reports that have cards blackscreening once then dying after a reboot, the blackscreen is the protection doing it's job.
>>82638406>>82637983standard cheapo space heaters in the US are 1.5kW~13A at 120V
>>82650623>there was no problem, which nvidia then fixeduh, anon..?
>>82631552it's actually good practice to take a massive man dump on people excited for trash that degenerates the industry. They're called slaves that drag every other customer down because the standards have been lowered by them. They are complicit. This is part of the reason why it's honestly hilarious there's no consoles or gpus for sale anywhere. It's great. The gaming community is getting what it deserves for years of supporting trash that has no mod support, is bloated in size so it's the only thing you play, is riddled with Microtransactions, is built with psychological exploitation in mind, spies on you and sells your personal information, etc. And now, what little supply there is, burns. smells incredible
>>82645840buying modern games makes you an active anti consumer slaveeat shit and die
>>82640876You're laughing. Two GPUs are in critical condition and you're laughing.
>>82639595kek, glad I got my mining farm set up early before faggot gaymers could get their hands on my precious gpus
>>82631724>miners underclock, undervolt, use power limits, and sometimes even swap out thermal paste on garbage-tier aibs to ensure stability>gaymers "trust the company" and expect it to just werk
>>82631552fucking bullshitso ONE gpu got fried for god knows what reason, all the others reporting it are just trying to get some attention or a new cardfuck them
>>82634878The perfect platform for win10 chrome posters.
>>82652149>>gaymers "trust the company" and expect it to just werkI'd expect it to just work as a regular consumer Of course the difference between me and gaymers is I don't create a cult of personality around a the brands that supply PC parts.Companies like EVGA, Asus, MSI, corsair, etc can never do no wrong, they will never go out of business. No one will ever call them out on hardware that shits the bed, people will be angry for approximately 5 femto seconds until next gen comes around.I guess this comes from the new generation of builders who treat their PC like the tuner car they never had and that general unreliability and breakage is just accepted as part of the cost of having a high-spec PC
>>82631552Why does EVGA still have the elite gamur reputation? That stopped being a thing after GTX 295... Asus surpassed them a long time ago.
>>82652823ROG Strix is hands down the best. But some people still day 1 buy muh EVGA because they think they are getting the best. I bet they use Razer gear as well.
>>82631552looks like a nice marketing gimmick by amazon
>>82653347strix is king atm. they weren't always though.they've got the best cooling in the game, with only MSI coming close. but god forbid if you ever have to go through their RMA process.
>>82653387This, literally never heard about it until now.
>>82652434>>82653347>>82653416EVGA is fucking shit terrible quality, but they have astronomically better customer support and respect than anyone else. That's why people keep going back to them.