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READ THE WIKI! & help by contributing
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server

>NAS Case Guide. Feel free to add to it:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server/Case_guide

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a pfsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin to replace Netflix, nextcloud to replace googlel, ampache to replace spotify, the list goes on and on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a homeserver?
/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your /g/ skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.

>Links & resources
Server tips: https://pastebin.com/SXuHp12J (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)
https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted
https://old.reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.labgopher.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
List of ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yl414kIy9MhaM0-VrpCqjcsnfofo95M1smRTuKN6e-E
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Let's see your setups and discuss what you do with them. What projects are you working on?
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>>81461466
pure sex. what case? i've wanted an older cm stacker and do that for a long time but ended up just reusing my old graphite 600t.
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>>81461466
post racks
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>>81461505
fuck
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>>81461505
That's a ZALMAN MS800 fren :)
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>>81461578
truly the most glorious era in pc cases
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gonna spend around $500 on a good refurb and load up OpenStack :D
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>use Backlaze's speedtest
>get 80Mbit/s upload
>buy license
>upload speeds are now 3Mbit/s
>i have 16 terabyte of data

How do I optimize backlaze to use my 10Gbit/s network?
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>>81461511
here you go.
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>>81461466
Now that's a hsg OP image.
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>>81461623
do yourself a favour anon and consider getting a 4u barebones cassis and buying all your parts separately.
the dells are getting a bit long in the tooth now, and 1/2u's are loud and noisy. remember a server is just a computer, don;t be scared to build your own.
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>>81461791
Lol. get fucked.
You're at the mercy of their ingest server, you can normally avg 100 mbit up if you leave it long enough.
>16TB
Gonna be waiting a few months for that, is it the $5 tier? b2 storage is a lot faster from what ive heard.
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>>81461466
can this be used to mine chia?
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>>81462512
anything can be used to mine chia. if you've not plotted over 40tb already then you're not going to make any money before the price crashes.
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I'm looking to set up ZFS on a debian system with 2 hard drives for redundancy. I'll store all my media and backups on it and access them with Jellyfin and the likes. Is this the way to go to keep my data safe / backed up?
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have been reducing some sound on server setup. trying to replace the 40mm fan in my switch. got a noctua 40mm 3 pin, which the switch has a 3pin as well. however the fan will not spin up and the switch shows a fan fault. i have tested the old and new fan, both are good. what am i missing here?
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>>81463946
do they have the same pinout
do they have similar power requirements
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>>81464049
pinout yes, the new fan is half the amperage, same voltage.
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anons i'd love to host my website and email on my own server. but it seems like punching a hole through my home's firewall and exposing its local network to the internet seems foolhardy and really scary.

in light of this, is there any good reason to not just use a remote VPS? and if so, what VPS would you anons recommend?

Or alternatively, should i just climb the learning curve and figure out network security and take the risk and host stuff from home anyway?
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>>81464351
>but it seems like punching a hole through my home's firewall and exposing its local network to the internet seems foolhardy and really scary.
I wouldn't call it foolhardy, but it's definitely a risk. You may be able to greatly reduce the risk by creating a separate network for your server, but not all routers support that.

>in light of this, is there any good reason to not just use a remote VPS?
Not really, no. Unless you want to host something that uses a lot of resources that would be expensive to VPS, but that's not common.

>Or alternatively, should i just climb the learning curve and figure out network security and take the risk and host stuff from home anyway?
If your goal is to learn shit, then it's definitely a useful learning experience. Other than that, the practical value is limited.
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I just installed OMV to serve some Win10 and Android devices, so it's going to be mostly SMB shares. What I don't get is the difference between "Permissions" and "ACL". I only messed with it for a few minutes but as far as I can tell, "permissions" doesn't really do anything and "ACL" gives me the access control I want. What is the actual intended use for these two things and how are they different?
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>>81464393
https://wiki.debian.org/Permissions
There is a section on ACLs at the bettom aswell.
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>>81461466
case?
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>>81464658
the oh so terrible case of not reading previous posts
Here you go: >>81461578
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>>81464058
Your fan is probably fried then.
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What's a good SFF option for Unraid? My Optiplex 7010 shit out on me and need a replacement. I don't have a server rack so need something somewhat small in tower form compared to a 1U or 2U
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>>81464968
it's confirmed working on another PC, also old fan works in switch. both fan and switch should be good.
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>>81464388
thank you for replying mate. it does seem like an added risk that doesn't quite seem justified for my use case (having own mail and internet facing digital home-site that makes no money) . i'll just use the VPS for now i guess.

It's really crazy how in the world of computing, good interfaces that help users manage security are few and far in between. there really ought to be a set of "hardening scripts" that prepare a local device for facing the internet by letting the user configure it easily. if such an interface is sold to normies it would make so much money because of its capacity to empower people to do/host things themselves easily instead of having to rely on corps.
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>>81465055
did you try the noctua fan again in a pc after trying it in the switch?
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>>81465778
yes. still works it's not fried, and switch fan works in switch and in pc. noctura just doesn't work in switch. nothing makes sense, only reason i'm asking. wasn't sure if anyone has incountered some sort of impedence or inductance sensing fan ports.
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>>81465844
might be overcurrent protection in the fan.
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Bought 1 of left and 2 of right
Going to try RAID for the first time.
I'm doing RAID 5.
Yes I do have 2 other 2TB, since I know raid 5 requires at least 4 drives.
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>>81465873
RAID5 only requires 3 drives.
And are you sure that thing works fine with RAID?
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>>81465858
a motor shouldn't draw more than it needs correct? it's an inductance load.
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>>81465903
It better,
Plus, isn't RAID on the software side
All the drives have to do is show up in the /dev/ and my Arch linux will take care of it, right?
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looking to start out, want to put my college learned skills to the test
other than movie streaming, what kinds of software would be useful day to day given a functional setup? looking for something to show off, i guess
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>>81466063
>software would be useful day to day
i use guacamole a lot to remote to vm's on my server. it can be fun to setup and serves a very practical purpose if it's somthing you need/want.
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>>81466023
RAID can be both software and hardware, but it's not made for USB, you might run into issues with overhead. That's why USB RAID enclosures exist.
Theoretically, yes, thats all they gotta do.
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>>81466093
Why do you use it over a regular VNC/RDP client (through a VPN, if required)?
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>>81466136
just seemed nice to have windows/linux vm's all in one interface that was laptop and tablet friendly. plus if i'm somewhere else i only need a browser.
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>>81466093
interesting and practical, thanks anon
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>>81465873
FYI, RAID 5 requires only three drives. Also it is a terrible idea with large slow SATA drives and was deprecated for this reason about a decade ago. Making a comeback because SSD and rebuild speeds, but you will be 100x better off with RAID 10 with SATA spinners.
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>>81463097
If you can store everything on 2TB, sure. ZFS as root is fairly straightforward. Maybe consider proxmox to fuck around with containers and stuff. Proxmox is Debian based.
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>>81466463
>2TB
2 drives.

What the fuck is wrong with my brain today.
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is there an hsg recommended alternative to untangle?
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>the ceyptofags came for CPU price and I did nothing because I didn't need a powerful cpu
>the cryptofags came for gpu prices and I did nothing because I am not a gaymer
>the cryptofags came for the hdd and there was no one left to help
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Also speaking of this chia nonsense. Does it actually have any significant read/writes after plotting? If not I might as well buy a bunch if drives ill eventually need anyway and farm on them until I need the space.
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>assclowns are buying my 16tb shuck drives to mine crypto
Bru it ain't cost effective fuck off.
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>>81465031
hp elitedesk or prodesk
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>>81467087
>Does it actually have any significant read/writes after plotting?
No, farmers can be low powered, and can use remote harvesters that actually contain the plot files
>>81467280
Dumb as fuck considering 16tb drive is like what 150+ k32 plots, and that's going to take like 1500+ hours total unless they can plot multiple in paralel, which they can't do unless they also buy some 1tb+ nvme
To fill 16tb with plots reasonably fast they're going to need 4tb nvme or more, and even then it would take a week - 4tb nvme fits ~10-12 k32 temp spaces, closer to 10 because temp space varies depending on stage, unless their cpu has avx512 the plotting process is going to take 10~ hours total, resulting in ~20-24 plots per 24 hours
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>>81461466
Ive been wanting to build a media server to store photos/music/movies .

Why?
a.) I dont want my photos out there unnecessarily,
b.) Not all my favorite movies are on one of the many streaming platforms I subscribe to.
C.) Looks like fun to build one.


Why do ya'll like home servers?
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>>81467393
>building servers IS fun
>practice for work/hobby
>have spare hardware lying around
>control over your data
>can serve media to yourself & friends
take your pick
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Are white labels still decent? Is quoting Magnuson-Moss really enough to get WD to honor their warranty on shucked drives?
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>>81467393
i like building computers
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>>81463946
What switch do you have? Fan and the switch very unlikely to have same pinouts even though the connector is the same. Usually pin 1 and 2 are swapped. Some switches just will not run a fan that doesnt get to full speed so you might need a resistor to trick it, but most likely its just trying to run backwards which is fucking up the tach signal and it doesnt want to spin it at all in that case. Try looking up a guide, someones likely done it.
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>>81466126
oh well then, I hope no issues will come about
since I plan to connect it to my raspberry pi through usb
maybe usb 3.0 might help?
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>>81466347
what was deprecated, raid 5? is it really that slow?
why, it seems to be really useful, because you only lose 1 drive of storage capacity for any n >= 3
I really wanted raid 5 because 75% storage for 4 drives
I'll try it first and if its too slow ill downgrade to 50% with raid 10, thank you anon.
>>81463097
wait anon, so you're saying ZFS gives me redundancy for free?
in my case i have 4 2tb drives, which I guess doesn't matter
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>>81467701
Zfs isn’t free, it’s got a fair bit of overhead and you lose 25-50 percent of your drive space but it’s got good redundancy built in.
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>>81467669
>maybe usb 3.0 might help?
it should, hopefully

>>81467701
>what was deprecated, raid 5? is it really that slow?
he didnt even mention the speed...
>wait anon, so you're saying ZFS gives me redundancy for free?
are you retarded?
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>>81467717
obviously not for "free" as in no space used
thats why its REDUNDANT

explain more about raid 5 and hdd speeds though
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What is better to have for cold backups, more smaller disks or less but larger?
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>>81467765
>zfs
>REDUNDANT
you might want to look up what the fuck you're talking about before you post again.
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Last month I passed on a $400 deal for Exos 16TB drives (5yr warranty, ..0001, SATA). Now I could only find ..0002 and for ~$530+.
Am I stupid?
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>>81462427
>don;t be scared to build your own.
servers are not gaming computers, they have to be built to a better spec and are literally designed to last for years without major failures and in the case of them, easy maintenance for low downtime, enterprise hardware is in fact superior that consumer hardware.
And 2u's aren't that loud, depends on the model and what CPU's you put in it but 80W TDP os usually pretty good for heat/performance.
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>>81467897
Drives that big are scary, I'd rather run RAID10 with a bunch of 4TB drives than deal with shit that dense.
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>>81467800
LTO 6
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>>81467956
I currently have 4x4TB in a 4bay nas and 4x2TB in a custom "server".
I thought about replacing 2 of my 4TB ones and just mirror them.
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>>81467897
>>81467986
Just go a nice middle ground and get 8TB drives, twice as big as 4TB but half the time to recover.
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Say hi to Waimak
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>>81467986
I also have 4x4 in RAID5. It's my media storage so it's reads 80% of the time. My OS and games are on 256GB and 2TB SSD.
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So I'm trying to get UID remapping for bind mounts to work in proxmox, and I'm running into two issues.

First, I can't write to the mounted directories. I have no idea why this is the case. I have the UID remappings configured. I can read the contents of the mapped directories. I just can't write to them.
lxc.idmap: u 0 100000 1000
lxc.idmap: g 0 100000 1000
lxc.idmap: u 1000 1000 1
lxc.idmap: g 1000 1000 1
lxc.idmap: u 1001 101001 64535
lxc.idmap: g 1001 101001 64535


Second, I can no longer write to the home directory within the container after the UID/GID remapping.

chown -R to the remapped UUIDs doesn't seem to do anything either.
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>>81467995
My math:
4x4TB in RAID5 = ~11.1TB real capacity
2x4TB mirror + 2x16TB mirror = ~18.6TB real capacity for $800-$1100
2x4TB + 2x8TB = ~11.1TB real capacity for ~$700
4x8TB in RAID5 = ~22.3TB real capacity for ~$1300-$1400

and I trust mirrors much more than RAID5. Aren't large drives supposed to be more reliable?
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>>81467701
RAID 5 is not reliable enough for serious use. The failure people are worried about goes like this:
>one drive fails
>replace drive
>start resilvering
>one of the remaining drives has a read error due to a bad sector
>it's in something important

For a first array RAID 5 fine. It is a lot more reliable than a single drive so you are still improving your situation.

RAID 10 is faster and more reliable than RAID 5. However you have to give up more storage.

I don't think the slower speed of RAID 5 is an issue for you because you're going through USB and it's going to be slow either way.
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>>81468078
usb is quik
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Managed to get a few HDDs before the disk space crypto stupidity got into full dumb.
But I still haven't decided on hardware. Need ECC, otherwise I'd use an old LGA 1150 board I had lying around. At least I'm pretty sure Z97 didn't support ECC ram. I shouldn't sit on this decision considering everything is going to continue to get fucked.

>>81468073
>Aren't large drives supposed to be more reliable?
No. More platters and heads to have something go wrong. Longer to rebuild when something chokes.
The only reliability you can ensure is through redundancy and backups.
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>>81468389
C H I A
Starting plotting progress into temporary dirs: /chia_nvme/temp/33 and /chia_nvme/temp/33
ID:
Plot size is: 33
Buffer size is: 10000MiB
Using 128 buckets
Using 4 threads of stripe size 65536

Starting phase 1/4: Forward Propagation into tmp files... Tue May 4 20:51:27 2021
Computing table 1
F1 complete, time: 923.128 seconds. CPU (67.790%) Tue May 4 21:06:50 2021
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Time for phase 1 = 38961.182 seconds. CPU (125.170%) Wed May 5 07:40:48 2021
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>>81467388
not power. Disk usage/wear and tear.
Basically the idea is when I need the drives for my actual array I just preclear them and add em.
afaik it just writes them once then does a low volume if reads.
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Can anyone tell me if I can simply move a software raid from a windows server into a synology or qnap NAS without problems?

I cant backup these drives right now and I couldnt find an answer whether I can simply throw these drives into a dedicated nas
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>>81468742
nope, synology and qnap run their own shit. you might have been able to do it if you were running linux and the exact same RAID managing software as the Syn/Qnap.
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>>81468742
Storage spaces? No.
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I want to make a personal git/backup 24/7 server but the hardware that I have (2 motherboards, 2 PSUs, the drives anf fans) is too noisy for my room and most likely drains too much power.
What are some solutions that avoid these downsides?
Thank you for reading.
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>>81468761
buy more efficient hardware.
swap out the fans.
put drives in a noise dampened box/case.
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>>81468761
Raspberry Pi. Schedule a git clone or something.
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>>81468742
yes, don't listen to the scrubs
tihihi
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>>81468742
If it's ancient enough dmraid will work.
If it's storage spaces then regardless of ntfs or refs it won't.
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>>81468770
I planned to use what have seeing as I just spent some money on network-related hardware.
I will look for some cheap options, especially regarding the fans, then.
>put drives in a noise dampened box/case.
I don't know why this did not cross my mind. Thank you.

>>81468784
I have never used such devices. I heard from this board that they are "too expensive for what they are and also pozzed".
Are they really worth it, in your opinion?
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>>81468807
>Are they really worth it, in your opinion?
don't listen to my opinion and don't trust me
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>>81468742
No. You'll have to copy the data over to the Synology/QNAP array, the on disk format is different.

>>81468761
Odroid N2+ or RPi4 will do just fine.
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>>81468829
Well, I don't trust anyone, but I'd like to hear your opinion.
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Thought this was doa when i tried it in my desktop, turns out it just needed tape on pins B5 & B6
Stupid smbus
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>>81468858
Tank you. I will look into these.
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Is keeping OMV installed on a USB stick a good-enough long-term solution? Do the failure rates increase keeping it on a USB stick?
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>>81469036
you shouldn't
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>>81468770
>put drives in a noise dampened box/case.
>>81468807
>I don't know why this did not cross my mind. Thank you.

For what reason? In order to kill them?
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>>81463164
elaborate
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German here. Just got a proper modem for my home (tc4400) and want to get a good all-in-one router.
Is Ubiquiti Dream Machine still good or is it obsolete by now?
My current router is FRITZ!Box 6591 and the UI/routing is pretty bad.
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>>81469510
poc1 baby
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I'm using prometheus and grafana with the node exporter. How can i show the Bytes transferred in a selected time frame as a single number. E.g. 4.3 TB per Month?
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>>81469096
>For what reason? In order to kill them?
Please elaborate. Why would it?
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Is softraiding HDDs that are in an external enclosure (pic related) and connected via USB a good idea or is that going to cause performance/stability/bottlenecking issues?
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>>81469620
Shitty airflow --> hot drives
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>>81469631
I couldn't get it to work reliable. They often disconnected under load and where basically unusable.
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>>81469632
I do not know if it would get hot enough to cause a significant life-span decrease with my use case
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>>81469738
This has been my experience as well. The only thing that has worked well was one of those tiny 2-drive 2.5" USB-enclosures. Never disconnects, gets over 200MB/s sequential with spinning drives.

>>81469631
I know you don't want to shell out money, but what you could do is find a dead intel CPU specced QNAP(or equivalent) with the 3.3V signal bug and fix it, like I did. Only takes a 100 ohm resistor.
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Cases are more expensive here than in USA, I can get a Define R5 for ~$120 USD or Define 7 for ~190 USD, which should I get?

I'm going to build a NAS/misc server, I know I'll start with 6 3.5" drives but not sure how many more I will go to.

Pic related, each can take 2 more drive not shown in pic
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>>81469523
>want a good all-in-one router
so why did you get a modem?

>>81470081
how the fuck should we know? only you know and can decide on how many drives you want to be able to stick in it.'
>each can take 2 more drive not shown in pic
not without modding the R7. only the R5 has 2 more 3.5" bays than shown, and those on the mobo-tray are 2.5" only. but you can also stick some in the 5.25" bay.
keep in mind you have to pay for the extra hdd trays too (at least for the 7).

>>81469632
dont be fucking retarded and put a fucking fan on it then you moron

>>81469766
it does if you dont have any airflow at all, but even a single 80mm fan is enough.
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>>81470650
>so why did you get a modem?
Because German Telekoms are retarded and the only reasonably cheap and fast option is Unitymedia/Vodafone.
And that one uses Coax, which significantly limits the router options.
To be able to get an AIO I wanted, I needed a modem.
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>>81470789
absolutely cucked.
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Want to start a Chia farm. Figured SAS HDDs are cheaper than SATA. Do they have any disadvantages? What motherboard should I get that will support them (plus some connectors for SSDs)?
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>>81470998
If you need to ask these retarded questions then it's not for you
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>>81470998
>Figured SAS HDDs are cheaper than SATA
did you even compare prices?
>>81471011
this
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>>81468078
>>it's in something important
RAID is not backup solution, retard.
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>>81470809
What can you do.
I miss my Russian internet for 600 rubles a month too.
But back to the question, is UDM the "best" option today or is it too old?
I'm mostly interested in performance and routing capabilities.
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>>81471019
Yes. SAS is 400 Euros, SATA is 650 Euros.
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>>81471049
Wow, you're even too retarded to realise there are more than one model of each type of hard drive, or mention the model number of the specific drives you are referring to
Fuck off retard
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>>81471079
Exos Enterprise X16 ST16000NM002G (SAS) vs ST16000NM003G (SATA).
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>>81471139
To be fair, that's only the case due to recent shortage and people being less interested in SAS drives.
I should have bought more last month.
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>>81463946
there's 5v and 12v variants of that fan. sounds like your have a 5v pinout and a 12v fan.
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>>81466689
pfsense
>>81466896
hdd's are still plentiful, stop sperging, you'll get a boat load of cheap HDD's once chia gets on a market and people realise how useless the rewards are.. like every other stroage based crypto
>>81466347
>raid 5
>deprecated
wtf are you smoking?
>raid 1 uses twice the space of raid 0 for parity, therefore deprecated!
that's your logic.
>>81467936
you're taken the wrong pill anon. components on gaymin mobos are the same as enterprise hardware, some are even superior. when you have a home server you don;t care about meeting SLA's and minimising downtime. it's in your house. your consumer electric and internet supply dictate your level of availability. you'll learn this one day.
Also to clarify i didnt say use consumer components, i said buy your parts separately. buy your supermicro motherboard, ecc ram, xeons/epyc's, hba's/raid cars, sseparate
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Moving my servers under the stairs next weekend and wondering what I could use to make them easier to slide around? It's a 650mm deep rack case and a fractal design tower on top of each other, not rackmounted. The rack case is pretty heavy and want to make it easier if I need to pull it out.
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>>81468531
your buffer size is too big anon. read the wiki.
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>>81468876
why did you need to tape the pins? it's a pci-e slot. they are all the same.
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>>81467393
>feels good to have services my family/friends can use
>other streaming services restrict content availability by country, mine doesn't
>helps me survive on private trackers
>makes nice noise
>learned plenty of sysadmining
>is fun and not boring
>>81468023
hi
>>81468807
>too expensive for what they are
I mean, you pay for the zero tech knowledge required to set it up. If you build your own server, it can get significantly cheaper, but you usually have to set it all up on your own. Now, I found this very interesting and pretty entertaining - many people do not, hence they pick Synologies/QNAPs.
If you want a mix of cheaper and more idiotproof, you could consider running Synology's DSM software on your own hardware. https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/9392-general-faq/
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>>81471535
There is indeed always a price for convenience, it seems. I do find it an enjoyable endeavor, but, as you mentioned, a mix of idiot-proof and cheapness will most likely suffice, seeing as I am not tech illiterate, but also don't have that big of a power-level. Thank you for your answer.
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>>81471472
No, anon, you read the wiki and realise everyone is using a higher buffer than the default amount. Read my post and realise it's a k33
>>81471489
Imagine being this retarded
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>>81471444
what's the hsg go to hardware should i use with a pfsense box
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>>81465925
Correct. Were you able to control the switch fan spped on the pc? Can you put two noctuas in the switch to incerse the current drawn at given speeds?
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>>81471489
Theres some weird PCIe "standards" out there. I have a bunch of fiber cards that need pin... 3? taped in normal motherboards because it causes a bus conflict on boot otherwise. I cant remember the exact details but with more esoteric hardware it is a real thing you have to do sometimes.
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>>81472255
Tape is commonly required for lsi hba cards too
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>>81471637
3.3aux is optional, so not sure why you're taping pins to get it to work, please educate me.
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>>81472417
because it doesn't work without the tape, simple as
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Reminder that this chia business is a scheme to sink the market and increase demand while lowering supply.
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>>81472461
What mobo you pluggin it into?
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>>81472476
hp 8200
waiting for plots to finish before i put it in my server
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>>81472505
>hp 8200
do you have your smbus drivers installed in device manager?
Never heard of non-vendor locked ssd moaning about smbus, seen old dell raidcard refuse to work without a comms link but always thought that was dell just being dell and trying to lock thier hardware to thier own systems.
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Anyone here using a quadro or similar GPU to do NVENC transcoding for Plex? Was thinking of doing this to free up some CPU overhead.
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>>81472505
>>81472630
also how much did you buy that from cex?
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>>81472635
https://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=Plex-Hardware-Transcoding
had a 1060 doing transcoding and it worked nicely, you can unlock the 2 stream limitation so its acts like the quadro
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>>81472630
Drivers have got nothing to do with it
Computer does not post because of the smbus interrupt conflict
Add the tape to the pins and the computer boots
>>81472637
125 bingbongs, out of stock now
https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=sssdintp360012tb
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>>81472470
dumb conspiracy fag, it's just a standard pre-mine scam backed by intelligent marketing. people will eat up anything crypto related so bram cohen and friends jumped on it and now sit on 21 million premined XCH while news sites, reddit and chinamen give all of it value
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>>81472128
yes, i'm going to attempt two fans in parallel tonight. someone on /diy/ brought up that some fan ports expecially in things like switches do have current sensing capabilities and perhaps the .12A vs 0.05A is to much of a difference. also the possibility that the noctua fan has a higher starting voltage if switch is trying to throttle via voltage, i haven't confirmed starting voltage, but figured the lower power fan would have a similar if not lower starting voltage, going to confirm tonight as well.
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>>81472995
I already told you that very likely the pinout is different, if you would tell us which switch you have you could save yourself a lot of guessing.
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>>81473151
>expecting a zoomer to provide the information required to help them
you're wasting your time, anon
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>>81473151
>>81473195
pinout was confirmed before first installation. positive/ground/tach are in the same positions, have even double and trippled checked. confirmed with volt meter and powering fan with a 12v power supply.
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>>81473441
If you power a fan backwards it just spins backwards. Pin 1 and 2 are generally flipped in every single piece of enterprise equipment. Imagine typing this out and still not even saying what switch you have. Good luck. I hope it catches fire.
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I've finally set up my first home server with ubuntu LTS. I've never done anything with networking, and am currently mostly trying to get my feet wet, so I installed paperless-ng via ssh and got it to run as well as nginx.
In the end I'd like to be able to have access to the files on my server from outside my home (local network) and make it easy to move files to and from the server via the local network. No syncing or anything yet, for that I'll set up nextcloud, but just be able to send files to and from the server and have a webinterface. Isn't that what a NAS is? The pastebin suggests OpenMediaVault, but from what I can see that's an OS, and I want to be able to do other things with the server too. What software would you guys suggest?

Secondly, how should I structure that? Have a single folder that all files go into and attach that to the network? Do I need to have it be a fixed size?
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>>81473688
I use Samba but it doesn't have a web interface.
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>>81473745
Samba seems really interesting, thanks for that already. I'm reading up on it at the moment.
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>>81473688
>pic related
Sounds like cope to me. For starters you should subscribe to an ISP that uses IPv6. Also you should be using a domain name regardless of whether your server's on IPv4 or 6.
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>>81474203
That pic is part of a meme. The format are basically shizzoposts. The point is to take reasonable stuff and make fun of it.
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>Estimated network space: 2288.575 PiB
BIG chia
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>>81474630
Haha aweseom dude! Would be even more awesome-er if it was actually real!
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>>81473745
Could I theoretically just use samba for access via windows pcs from my local network and also run an apache server as a open directory?
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>>81474824
What's not real, you fucking retard? That's the estimated size of the chia network
How are you so fucking dumb?
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>>81474630
what's that, your time to win has blown out to years? just buy more storage!
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>>81474981
t. plotlet
It hasn't changed, don't listen to the shills, the estimated time to win isn't years even with 1 plot
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>>81475000
time to win with a single k32 is over 8 years
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>>81475014
Nice claim, now prove it
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>>81475032
make a plot and find out
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guys
guys
hey guys
i think the business board was the other way
You can indeed mine Chia on a home server, but here you usually don't see threads about mining other crypto on computers.
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>>81475050
So you can't prove anything, got it
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>>81475069
i can, but i'm not going to go wait for a plot solely to win an internet argument
if you want to see the size of the chia netspace you can always look anywhere chia-related though
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>>81475093
Ah, so you don't even have any plots at all. Why are you making things up about something you have no involvement in?
>see the size of the chia netspace
I already did, look, here's the post I made about it >>81474630
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>>81475122
of course i had plots, how else would i know how long the estimate is
i don't have hardware to plot in any reasonable timeframe so i stopped when i saw the ETAs on low farms
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>>81475138
You don't know how long the estimates are, you're literally making it up
>i don't have hardware to plot in any reasonable timeframe
So what you're saying is that you're a hardwarelet who's mad at chiabros for being able to generate plots
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>>81475177
of course i know what the estimates are, i just told you
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>>81475194
If you could prove your claim, you would. You are making it up, the estimated time to win with 1 plot is no where near 8 years.
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>>81475213
why don't you just plot yourself and look
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>>81475244
I have, that's how I know you're making it up
Why don't you plot yourself and prove the claim you're making? I don't mind waiting 20 hours for your shitbox to plot a k32, all you have to do to prove your claim of 8 years is plot one k32 and show the output from chia farm summary
Afraid to prove yourself wrong?
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>>81471044
Bump.
I really want a “good” all in one router.
I thought about mikrotik, bu their consumer line is a bit lacking.
Though OS is great.
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>>81475297
i don't need to prove myself anything when i already know what the estimated times are
if you're that desperate then you can plot one yourself
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>>81475323
If you want anyone to believe your claim then you're going to need to prove it, simple as
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>>81475302
>I really want a “good” all in one router.
For what exactly?

SFP+ with some kind of fiber 1GBE or 10GBE to your ISP plus 1GBE or 10GBE copper or fiber SFP+ in your LAN? Wifi6E support? Or is it more OpenWRT support you want? Or maybe some enterprise managed software?
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>>81475375
i don't care whether you believe me or not, all that matters is that when someone goes and plots they'll be presented with 8+ years to win
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>>81475402
>they'll be presented with 8+ years to win
Except they won't
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>>81475384
>for what
1 server (2 ports), 1 pc, 3 laptops (WiFi), 2 phones.
I also need proper port forwarding and drop rules.
Preferably a “guest network” with usage access.
Also support for DDNS and VPN.
Wifi 6 would be a nice bonus.

Oh, and access by SSH is alway a plus.
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>>81475450
i'm afraid they will
the only case in which they won't is if estimates rise higher and they get 9+ years instead
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>>81475479
No need to be frightened little lad, that's not going to happen, if you plot the big scary k32 yourself you'll see that there's nothing to be afraid of, you're not going to wait 8 years for a win
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>>81475546
you should really plot one yourself if you're so out of date with estimates
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>>81475470
So maybe just some TP-Link Archer C7 with OpenWRT or such?

Your laptops probably won't use Wifi6 much or at all and a solidly OpenWRT supported device sounds more useful.
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>>81475557
I have, I'm not out of date with estimates
Why don't you plot one yourself and prove yourself wrong?
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>>81475580
i'm not wasting my time to see something i already know
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>>81475592
You don't know anything
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>>81475580
not him but mines still show 5 months to win on K32. where are you getting 8 years?
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>>81476043
>>81475580
oh, thats on 34 plots.. i get you now, 8 year per 100gb plot, is that what you're referring to?
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>>81461891
>zero UPS load
looks like you're doing some serious work anon
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>>81468876
God I wish my CEX had p3600s, I've only ever seen 750s in them (I did manage to get a 750 1.2TB for £250 a couple of years ago.)
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uh oh
please let this not be a thing
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>>81476512
they'll work out how to mine crypto using fucking optical drives next.
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>>81472653
Thanks a lot. That's a great resource. You can only do GPU encoding if you have a plex pass, is correct?
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>>81476884
Lmao
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>>81476884
you could technically put blocks on a bluray drive if you wanted
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I want to get something for a NAS. Been looking at just desktops stuffed full of drives and actual servers with tons of bays but I cant decide.
Whats the best thing to buy here if I want 12+ drives? I dont care about noise, I do care about price. Everything I look for on ebay is expensive but I had the same problems with switches until I found specific models to look for.
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>>81477102
if you want the most bank for buck a few hba cards and a used pc is prolly the way to go. Just stack the dives on top of each other. second would be get a 12 bay desktop case, 3rd would be the 4/5/6u storage chassis
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>>81477102
a cheap server with tons of 3.5" bays would probably use so much power that in the long run you might be better off spending a bit more upfront for something more efficient. it really depends on what you can get new vs used in your location.
check ebay for old storage rack servers and old hp/dell office pc or office servers or a used fractal R5 or something
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>>81477536
>>81477214
When I was looking at switches I eventually found Dell N series which are priced insanely low off-lease, i picked mine up for 130 bucks. Is there anything like that for storage?
When I look on ebay for "dell 12 bay" or whatever, all that comes back are things that cost like 500 bucks.
I'm not too worried about power draw, it will only draw what it uses. First thing I'd do anyway is strip out all the shit I dont need, fans included, and replace with something more efficient where necessary.
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>>81476512
That's just the backplane right? No disks?
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>>81476512
I picked up one of those with drives for $200 last month, is it worth selling now or should I hang onto it?
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>>81478456
Wait a few more months for it to moon, then sell it to some FOMO fags for $1600.
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>>81477905
If you want a storage server in rack format, each vendor has it's own naming nomenclature to tell you what type of server it is (dell is XD at the end i think for storage capacity)
Check out bargain hardware for models and then get googling.
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>>81467936
*sucks dick*
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>>81461466
I have a hp elitebook g2 that I'm retiring as my daily laptop and would like to turn it into a server. Can I put a WD Red 1TB in it, install Debian, plug it into ethernet, and use it as a small server? I just need a central location to store my work, pics, and files.
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>>81479040
sure, why not. have you considered cloud storage(not joking)
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>>81478552
It has 24 600gb SAS drives in it, should I remove those and just sell the backplane or sell the whole thing in one go?
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>>81479064
nobody really buys those capacities anymore so you might struggle to sell them individually, that being said most buiyers wont be keeping them either so they wont bid you their value.
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>>81479059
Would you recommend cloud storage over a laptop home server?
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>>81478685
>bargain hardware
perfect, thank you, this site is exactly what I needed to find the models and gauge a reasonable price.
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>>81479086
Yeah that's what I was worried about.
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>>81470650
I was also looking for info on stuff like how good the cases are to work in, airflow, etc.
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>>81471011
what was retarded about his question? We're all noobs here
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>>81479673
What do you mean “we”?
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>>81479040
Yup, you can. Laptops even *usually* have a fairly ok power consumption if you turn off the screen
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>>81461511
heres something that was not taken for instagram likes
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>>81479064
Gut it and say you have 24 in your listing. People will buy however many they want until you sell out.
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>>81461528
Why would you put the reset switch there
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>>81474630
why cant they ever make the crypto garbage do something useful? its always about dealing with garbage data
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>>81479625
fractal is generally very good to work in, but define series is silent and run a few degrees hotter than all "mesh" cases.


>>81480483
>tfw no folding@home cryptocurrency
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>>81480483
It's mind boggling to think that GPUs and hard disks are worth more doing literally nothing productive than if they were actually being used for their intended purpose.
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how do I fit another hard drive in this? Optiplex 760 I'm using as a file server
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>>81481172
those are wagecuck office machines, not storage servers
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>>81481172
Get rid of the CD drive and put another hard drive in the slot.
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>>81480169
thank you anon
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Chances of house fire/10
also rate my literal rack.
Ran and term'd my first cat6 cable though today :^)
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>>81481186
>NOOOO YOU CANT USE AN OFFICE PC FOR STORAGE!!!!!! basedrage.png
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>>81481924
meh/10
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>>81481967
Alright, I somehow like those SFFs. What would be the best solution for using, say, 8 drives with such a machine? 2x 4 bay USB enclosure? Using some sort of HBA card and some DAS?
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>>81482031
only if it has usb3.
you can fit a few internally if you get a 5.25" bay converter and another in the floppy bay but that might need some modding.
getting a low profile HBA card with an external connector lets you just slap a drive bay/cage or hot-swap case ontop or next to it. either route the needed sata power out from the case or get another psu or some wall outlet to sata adapter
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what sort of hotswap bays does /hsg/ recommend
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>>81482246
I personally have used the Vantec EZ Swap 4, been great. Pretty expensive tho to be fair.
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>>81482246
dont know if i'd recommend any since i only have two, but they work. got a used old chieftec 4 drive bay and a 5bay silverstone bay (which seems to just be a rebadged chink model)
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>>81482246
I like the ones from Icy Dock
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>>81461466
Convince me not to get 10 3tb sas drives for under $25 a drive
I have room for 8 of them in a case and them being SAS makes them cheaper than a sata of the same capacity for some reason. I'll be using a sas hba anyway
I'm a poorfag and want to get a storage pool going before the Chia blood suckers come to roost
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>>81480358
That RESET button is for the fan/temp alarm on the SATA backplane, not the computer.
I have two backplanes like that and it's pretty fucking useless. In fact I modified mine to remove the fans (silent) and permanently mute the beeper and red warning LED. Need a few jumpers on the undocumented option pins on the back.
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>>81466093
seedbox, matrix homeserver, videogame server, NAS, The options are limitless really
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>>81468023
hello
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>>81483222
lewd cheek peek
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>>81483222
Those cheap drives tend to be well used if you browse the photos you can see they all have manufacture dates of like 2013. I don't know much life drives like these have left but they are already 8 years old it would make me paranoid.
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>>81483439
>remove the fans (silent) and permanently mute the beeper and red warning LED
HOUSEFIRE
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>>81483685
That's my only thing
I posted because I was wondering if there was anything better in terms of $/TB. A single 10TB portable drive you can shuck is already close to the cost of the some of the drives I'm looking at and would only get half the usable space.

If it makes it 2 years ill be happy,
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>>81483885
If you use conservative RAID settings you'll be fine. I would do RAID 6 with a hot spare. Test the array thoroughly before you start storing data on it. Check the SMART logs and run the
SMART tests. Be prepared to throw away one or two of the drives if they show any errors.
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>>81483923
Ohh trust me
I don't trust any storage with any real data until I get atleast several months of operation without a hint of fuckery.
Got a drive in my desktop with pending sectors right now and the only thing it holds is some virtual drives for VMs that could be wiped tomorrow without too much sorrow.
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>>81484002
If a drive is broken it'll make that obvious within 200 power on hours. After you pass that hurdle it's smooth sailing until 50k.
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>>81480296
>i frew up
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Boys, does anyone use Emby for their home media servers?
I'm having trouble remotely connecting to it. It only gives me an IPv6 for WAN, but I need IPv4
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>>81485591
Check if your ISP assigns you an IPv4 address.
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>>81471444
>consumer electric and internet dictate availability
in other words, your uptime will be limited when your router or mains transformer explodes and [local utility monopoly here] have to drag their sorry asses out and replace it
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>>81481172
gut it, put it in a larger case you found on the side of the road, screw SSDs to cooling grilles with big washers and put HDDs in floppy/optical/HDD bays
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What's the proper way to securely expose syncthing to public so I can sync when not at home? (Not using a vpn to the home)
Do I just setup the web gui behind nginx as a reverse proxy, then forward port 80 and 443. Then I just gotta forward the port syncthing needs for syncing in my router?
Or do I not forward the syncthing port in my router, and should do something else with nginx?
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>>81485980
>reverse http proxy instead of VPN
you're asking to get anally annihilated by chinks, just use ze VPN
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>>81485829
Yeah. Its a normal dual stack.
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>>81485980
https://docs.syncthing.net/users/firewall.html
No need to forward the GUI port, the only one necessary would be the sync port (22000 by default). Even if you didn't forward it the sync would work, either Syncthing on all your devices would attempt to do UPnP, or if it's not possible the traffic would go through one of the relay servers.
>>81486025
Well then, are you sure the 8096 port is actually forwarded, and you're not behind CG-NAT? As for the former, please use a reverse proxy instead, so that you have HTTPS.
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still going strong
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im about to finishing hooking up a batch of 10tb drives with some old hardware in a new case to store mostly anime. Does anyone that uses Taiga have experience with this? Im wondering if Taiga will see files over a network, will it track stuff if im using open media vault, etc. Or if there is a better solution.
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>>81486084
i guess it doesn't really matter, I can always just share the drives and store the anime by year of release. It just is going to make it strange spreading the files over multiple drives, what to change if one drive fills up faster, how much free space to have on each drive, etc
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>>81486041
Got it to work. Disabled IPv6 on the network adapter. Restarted it. Then enabled it again.
Weird, since I had all IPv6 connection blocked internally anyway
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The eternal question - if I want to access my files on my homeserver in a more stylish way (so streaming of videos and series I have saved. I'd mostly stream on my local network, but like to have the option to stream from away from home and never more than 2 accounts at once (99% of time just one).
Plex sounds bad because I dislike subscription models and it feels like it'll try to make you subscribe at every opportunity it has.
Then there's Jellyfin, Kodi & Emby of which Jellyfin and Kodi seem the best.
Anyone use Jellyfin/Kodi? Why did you choose one over the other?
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How often does Windows Server need to restart because of updates? Surely it's not like normal Windows, right? Because that would be absolutely ridiculous for a server.

t. thinking about Windows Server because Linux is annoying me. OMV on my Pi fucked up again and now I'm having to do a fresh install for the 2nd time in just a couple of months.
Linux shat the bed again with all its repositories and packages and dependencies and stuff duplicating and fucking up, and now updates are stuck in a fucking loop. Ridiculous. Including the original install this is now 3 installs total in 5 months. So much for 'just werks'. It doesn't 'just werk', it's a fucking pain in the ass!
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>>81486872
>Jellyfin
Media server, can supply media for Kodi.
>Kodi
Media player, can play from various sources.
Different tools. I run Jellyfin, occasionally using Kodi as an alternative player.
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>>81487281
Oh that makes so much more sense. I've looked into it and people seemed to talk differently about the two. Thanks a lot! I'll install Jellyfin then and look if I like it.
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>>81483222
Depends on the manufacturer, I have 10 hitachi 3tb, dom 2013, running 24/7 since I got them 3 years ago and no failures
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figured the fan out. switch was delivering about 6v, assuming this is the "low" setting. stock fan would spin up as low as 4.5-5 volts, noctua fan wouldn't spin up until almost 7.5v. if the switch got hot enough it starts the noctua. replaced with a different model with a larger hub that had a lower starting voltage. nice and quiet now.
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>>81480296
nice Reeperhaus
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Getting started with Docker, is creating an account mandatory or are there any benefits in doing so?
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>>81486047

Nice anon
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>>81481924
based
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>>81478169
Yup, no disks.
They sold for 200 used a few weeks/months ago.
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>>81486047
VM life is where it's at
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>>81479183
if you've got nothing set up and only want to store 1 TB or less, yes, I'd recommend cloud storage, going to tick all your boxes and it just werks.





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