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>NEWS
Substrate shortage to affect all foundries

>UPGRADE ADVICE
Post complete specs including monitor

>BUILD ADVICE
State budget, region, and monitor specs
List use cases (e.g. gaming, editing, rendering)
Assemble a preliminary parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
HTPC/Web Browsing: Athlon 3000G
Mid-range Multicore: i7 10700K, R7 3700X
High-end Multicore: R9 5900X, R9 5950X, i9 10850K
Budget Gaming: R3 3100, i3 10100/F
Mid-range Gaming: R5 3600, i5 10400/F, i5 11400
High-end Gaming: R5 5600X, i5 11600K (Gear 1)

>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVEL
Budget 1080p: Used RX 470/570 4GB
Mid-range 1080p: RTX 2060, RX 5600 XT
High-end 1080p : RTX 3060, RX 5700 XT
Mid-range 1440p: RTX 3060 Ti, RX 6700 XT
High-end 1440p/2160p: RTX 3080, RX 6800 XT

>RECOMMENDED RAM
Capacity: 2x8GB or 2x16GB
Speed and CAS Latency: 3200/3600MHz CL16
Beware: Some Intel motherboards (e.g. H410, B460) are limited to lower speeds

>RECOMMENDED COOLERS
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
Basic Web Browsing: 400-450W
Gaming: 500-850W depending on GPU (aim for 50-75% at load)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
OS Drive: NVMe with TLC NAND + DRAM cache
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/

>MOTHERBOARD INFO:
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=RzdbjX

Previous: >>81445041
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Asking same thing here then
>>81460947
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I'm thinking about turning my desktop into a headless server and just docking my Thinkpad and controlling it via the network if necessary. Can I run games using the server hardware piped over the network to my laptop?
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Is installing a RAID setup worth it for home desktops?
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>just buy the 65W cpu bro it's less power hungry than the 125W one
Why is intel TDP such a meaningless number?
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What AMD card could I realistically get with the money made by selling a 1080? nVidia's Linux drivers make me want to gouge my eyes out.
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>>81461049
You might be laughing but intel CPUs are way easier to gauge power draw. The advertised power is usually the steady state power draw according to intel guidance and for the first 28-56 seconds, it'll be in PL2 mode, which is usually around 2x the advertised power draw and in the case of the 10700, it's 224w. If that guidance was disabled by the board manufacturer or by yourself, it will stay at its PL2 level power draw, which isn't advertised anywhere but if you have basic googling skills you'll find it easily. AMD on the other hand is some weird calculation that doesn't have power draw anywhere in it's formula. If you keep it cool enough, it'll draw as much power as it wants and even a 65w chip can end up drawing in excess of over 90w. Don't get me wrong though, power efficiency is way better on AMD chips, but Intel chips are easier to limit. If you specifically tell it to only draw 65w, it'll throttle itself enough to only ever consume 65w. Performance will be shit but it does what you tell it to do.
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Are there any companies that specialize in Tranpartent plastic towers? I would love to have my Rig glow lighting up the area around it instead of just in one direction.
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>>81461207
65W x 3 = 195W
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>>81461155
Most AMD cards are unfortunately better at mining than older nvidia architectures like pascal, so you'll have to downgrade or pay a little extra. You should be able to flip it for around $500-600. You should be able to get a 5600xt or vega56 for around $600-700. This is all based on ebay, so if you have a local trading website you can use, use it. Local prices are usually better.
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so i was looking to get a GPU a few months back and eventually decided to put the project on hold and revisit in a few months
now this is the cheapest rx580 on newegg
I want off this ride
also, what's the end game here?
Is mining actually that profitable that miners are buying faster than manufacturers can make these things?
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>>81461236
>usually around 2x the advertised power draw
>in the case of the 10700, it's 224w
read
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Red always goes faster.
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>>81461207
Zen 2 and 3 chips have a hard strictly enforced limit to power draw. It's just not what they list as TDP. The 65 watt CPUs are capped at 88 watts stock. You can change a bios setting to set that cap to whatever you want. It won't ever go more than a few watts over.
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>>81461366
AMDchads, I kneel...
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>>81461436
uhhh vegabros?!?!?!
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>>81461353
>also, what's the end game here?
Buying money printing machines
>Is mining actually that profitable that miners are buying faster than manufacturers can make these things?
It doesn't need to be all that profitable. Even at the current scalper prices, GPUs breakeven after 3-6 months, after that it's all free money. Money printing machines have infinite scalability, the more you have the more you make.
Of course this won't last forever though. Mining difficulty has already increased by more than double since this started (a good indicator of how many people are mining) but so far the increase in ethereum price has managed to offset the losses through the increase in difficulty.
This is a good write up that describes why miners should and probably will start flipping their cards and cashing out soon: https://old.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/n3g5s2/future_mining_profit_model_charts/
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>>81461353
Its a top-down problem-reaction-solution scheme. Its also why xboxes and playstations are unavailable. They are going to take people’s games away until the public outcry to ban cryptocurrency is great enough for them to do it.

It may take a year or two. Get into retro.
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>Lian Li Q58 SFF case
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fhardwarecanucks.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FLian_Li_Q58_ITX_Case-17.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fhardwarecanucks.com%2Fcomputer-cases%2Flian-li-q58-review%2F&docid=VqLRtHCZeHuO9M&tbnid=GBUPdgXSqR66rM&vet=1&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim

half mesh half glass sode panels, hopefully they become removeable so you could opt for dual mesh panels. thoughts
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>>81461436
Now do the same for CPUs
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>>81461536
https://youtu.be/kmFEwdchnoE
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>>81460973
>Budget Gaming: R3 3100, i3 10100/F
R3 3100 is significantly worse than the i3 10100 and significantly compared to the i3, Drone

>Mid-range Gaming: R5 3600, i5 10400/F, i5 11400
R5 3600 is significantly worse than either of the i5s while being more expensive, Drone

>2160p: RTX 3080, RX 6800 XT
6800 XT is garbage for 4K
https://youtu.be/9ek4izeJIvM
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>>81461353
'they' are coming out with mining dedicated rigs that supposedly going to be more powerful than +30 indivudual gpus combined. dont know when though
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>>81461595
The more you seethe the closer we get to a Ryzen-only OP. Again.
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>>81461637
Funny world where "seethe" means "assrape drones." Maybe learn English before posting
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>>81461668
Whatever helps you cope at night.
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got my new system up and things are great!
thanks for all the help /pcbg/
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>>81461680
Hard /pcbg/, hard life, drone
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>>81461595
yes, but the 3100 and 3600 are still fine options for those who might want the upgradeability of the am4 platform, the slightly better performance in some non-gaming applications, or who want to be able to overclock a little even if just for the sake of it
let people look at the various options and decide for themselves what's best for them
also local pricing yadda yadda
t. r5 3600 and would probably go for an i5 11500 if I had to buy now
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>>81461690
Dilate.
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guys. i have two corsair psus.
rmi750 gold
rmi850 gold
i have gotten them cheap from a friend, because i wanted to do a meme open itx build with a motif monument clone that supports atx psus.
i have since decided to go with a closed sff chassis that uses sfx power supplies.
what should i do with the two psus i have leftover? selling them doesn't seem worth it desu
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>>81461436
unequivocally BTFO
Tesla chads, we won
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tourist here
seen a bunch of people going on about how this one new cryptocurrency (on top of the chip shortage) is gonna drive up SSD/HDD prices and cause shortages, is this true or just sensationalism?
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>>81461685
your parts selection is shit, cringe, cope, dial-8
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>>81461783
it'S true
not sure if it will cause shortages, but prices will go up for storage.
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>>81461783
Prices have already gone up in China. That being said, it's a shitcoin that won't survive. It's only gone down since you could start exchanging it. Everyone trying to dip out while they're ahead. I think it won't last.
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what cheap video card can i buy to replace my old gtx 750 ti?
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>>81461830
did it break or do you want to upgrade?
it's a shit time to upgrade, that being said
where i live the 1050ti is sold for a decent enough price that i am going to get one.
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>>81461588
AMD ========
Intel ====

AMD wins again
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why are there people shilling for amd or nvidia or intel? are you guys being paid? if not then it's pretty cringe. because fuck every single one of them.
go to the videocardz comment section, there is some nigger who shills for intel and a tranny that shills for amd. you can have a blast there :)
but let /pcg/ be a comfy thread
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>>81461853
upgrade
cant play games like genshin and valheim with a decent fps
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>>81461395
Wasn't aware of that one, thanks for the info. In that case though, it's basically the same situation, just that AMD is still a huge way ahead when it comes to efficiency. Advertised TDP doesn't mean shit. Just look up a table that actually describes the hard power limits for your CPU. I guess intel's is still worse, because people who have no idea about any of this could put a power hungry CPU into a cheap motherboard, thinking it won't matter because it's just 65w, all the while frying their motherboard.
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>>81461907
what i do is i check the used market and have the techpowerup gpu database open and use my current card as reference and keep checking cards that will outperform mine for a decent price. that's how i landed at the 1050ti since my current "card" is the igpu of a 2675qm
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>>81461732
>projecting
What was it like to be born a faggot?

>>81461722
>the slightly better performance in some non-gaming applications,
Such as? 11400F (can also buy non-F for iGP, which Ryzen lacks even as an option) is $175, while the R5 3600 is $250.

>might want the upgradeability of the am4 platform
Niche, not what OP says. OP says gaming without upgrade

>>81461884
I wish, but there's a couple of particular brandfaggots who shit up these threads, one of them being OP
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>>81461830
>>81461933
Have you looked at the 470/570 4gb? They cost about the same on ebay ($150) but the 470/570 is a lot more powerful.
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I need a new computer. I slapped this together, any suggestions?
Do AMD zen APUs support dp 1.4 and DSC? I know any Intel cpus older than 11th gen do not. That's the most important thing. DP 1.4 and dsc.
I was really surprised to see just how poor shape the case market is in. There were very few options for micro atx/mini micro atx tower or ITX(if I spent another 30 on itx mobo instead) and this is the case I liked most and I don't like it. any ideas there? , no side windows under any circumstances ever.

Can you believe this thing has hyper threading? I shit myself when i realized it. My cpu only has two cores and four threads, I have an i3 4330. This thing has twelve. 70% faster single thread 275% more overall throughput. lmao. Zen 3 threadripper must be like 1420% faster.
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>>81461979
i checked them and in europe they are pretty pricey. usually double the 1050ti.
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>>81461978
Huh, 11400 is a bit better than I thought, was mostly thinking of the 10400F vs 3600 for application uses.
>niche, not what op says
what's in the op might not exactly be what the reader wants
there's absolutely no harm in mentioning other alternatives, people will find out on their own that the gaming performance is worse and will be able to decide whether or not that matters to them more than other factors they might've considered
yes, the 11400 is a better cpu for gaming and I stand corrected in that it is better in some application benchmarks (although the same video will also show a slight advantage to the 3600 for stuff like code compile and a tie in premiere pro), but it's just not the only one people should consider
there's also the whole used market, considering how very common the 3600 was and still is, that might be an option worth considering even if the op doesn't necessarily mention used, the OP doesn't have to mention every single detail everyone should take into account when using their brains to make their own decisions
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>>81462069
>using their brains
that's very optimistic :D
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>>81461208
You can get specialty all-acrylic cases but they're usually SFF. It might be more economical to find a design online, get a shop to laser cut you the panels, and build it yourself.
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>>81462030
What's DSC?
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>>81461595
>R3 3100 is significantly worse than the i3 10100 and significantly compared to the i3, Drone
I don't know what benchmarks you are looking at, but it's about on par. It's included because they're both valid options and people should shop around and pick the cheaper option.
>R5 3600 is significantly worse than either of the i5s while being more expensive, Drone
It's slightly worse than the 10400+b560 and significantly cheaper for someone already on the AM4 platform.
>6800 XT is garbage for 4K
It says high end 1440p/2160p and only a small minority of games actually feature DLSS as an option. If you don't happen to play any of those, then the 6800 XT is a good option. That's shit you can discuss once they ask about their builds.
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>>81462121
Display Stream Compression

https://www.unigraf.fi/resource/fec-dsc/
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>>81462079
hey I'm hopeful that the average /g/ anon has at least double digit iq and a moderately developed ability to look up things in order to make decisions on their own
it'd be a shame to give someone who does video editing on top of gaming a 10400F instead of a 3600 since it performs worse and the upgrade path is much worse, and it'd be just as stupid to recommend a 3600 over an 11400 to a pure gamer seeking higher refresh rates or someone who has other application workloads where the 11400 is better
>>81462132
eh, doesn't the 6800xt perform observably worse than the 3080 at native 4k in a fair amount of cases due to the infinity cache getting saturated while ampere gets carried by its gddr6x or something along those lines?
although one could make the argument of the extra vram maybe making it the better choice in the long run, idk
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>>81462069
>there's absolutely no harm in mentioning other alternatives
I have no patience for people like OP who have to recommend something because its his favorite corporate cock to suck. Notice that brandfaggot OP didn't add in the G6400 next to the 3000G even though it makes far more sense than either the R3 or the R5 relative to the i5s. You know why? Because he's a shithead, braindead, corporate cocking weakling.

>the OP doesn't have to mention every single detail
Which is why, right now, the R5 3600 and the R3 3100 should not be included, as they do not make sense under almost any circumstance. Perhaps we should include every chip in existence and let anons "decide" which ones are better. No, the OP is a shortlist, and right now a lot of the Zen 2 chips don't make the shortlist.
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thoughts on this psu lads?
its A tier in the psucultist list
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does anybody know when the passive x570 chipset mobos will be announced?
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>>81462040
i got mine from the chinks (used one)
it's actually cheap and working fine at the moment
https://spanish.alibaba.com/product-detail/original-used-amd-rx-590-rx-580-rx570-rx470-4-8-gb-4g-8g-pc-4gb-8gb-gpu-gaming-graphics-cards-62577785389.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_image.1b4d6ad6lHRBPG
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>>81462211
looks decent.
psus are made by a 2-3 companies anyway, even if it says nzxt on it it's probably made by seasonic or some other company that knows what they are doing.
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>>81462171
I'll give you the G6400, but I do think the 3100 and 3600 are still relevant enough, again, because of highly fluctuating local pricings, the used market, and niche cases. I'll give you Zen+ and Coffee lake being completely irrelevant by now outside of some edge cases like cheap 9700Fs popping up every now and then, but I find the 3600 and 3700x to still be worth considering here (especially considering the 3700x has dropped back below 10700F prices here in baguetteistan), and the 3100 might be depending on price vs 10100 wherever it's available. And I don't think wanting the AM4 upgradeability is that much of a niche use case considering it's always been one of the main pro-Ryzen all along
>>81462211
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nzxt-c-series-850w-power-supply-review
seems solid for the price if not perfect
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>>81462225
>buying used cardsfrom insectoids
you are not going to fool me, Chang
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i asked this yesterday and got two responses, maybe it should be its own thread idk but

are ultrawide monitors worth or are they just memes? I'm hearing that more video games are supporting ultrawide monitors which sounds really cool to me, also desktop productivity is enhanced from what people say
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>>81462211
It's a Seasonic, so I'd say go for it. Whenever you're shopping for a PSU, google "<PSU model> OEM" to find out if it's actually good or not.
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>>81462255
david does tech stuff ordered a bunch of gpus from china, while he got scammed on the nvidia ones, the amd one he ordered was a legit sapphire card.
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>>81461884
The mass-replying shill got so assblasted he removed 6800xt even from 1440p

>>81461978
Dilate troon
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given video cards are damn near unavailable, I am seriously considering just buying a customizeable prebuilt system instead of building from the ground up like normal

wanting to go amd/ati this generation because fuck nvidia

have a bunch of SSDs and HDDs already, monitor, kbm etc
monitor is 2k 144hz

right now I'm looking at Dell and HP options
dell gets me an r5 5600x and rx 6800xt for $1700
hp gets me the same processor but an rtx 3060 for 1600$

anyone got a better suggestion? refuse to pay scalper prices or wait 6 months for gpu availability
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>>81462255
the RX 580 i got from them 6 months ago is working fine so far
problem is it took around 3 weeks to arrive at my flat
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>>81462141
I mean that sounds neat but 100% a niche use case. Like 0 budgetary limit niche.
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>>81462267
i dont have personal day to day experience with it, but i used an ultrawide at a friends house a bunch of times an i can tell you this.
in games, if it works it's great. if it doesn't work its a hassle to make it work and you will have issues with missing huds and stuff.
for productivity while it seem like an enchancement it's just not wide enough.
i did some cad work on his monitor and it wasnt wide enough to have the drawing and a cad program open. two monitors or a super ultra wide would be better. the latter of which my friend has gotten now, he has the odyssey g9 now
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>>81462335
it's for high end shit, like the new asus 4k 144 hdr mini led monitor, it supports dss because of hdr 4k 144 10 bit signal
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>>81462162
>eh, doesn't the 6800xt perform observably worse than the 3080 at native 4k in a fair amount of cases due to the infinity cache getting saturated while ampere gets carried by its gddr6x or something along those lines?
Yeah, something along those lines. It's usually a bit slower at 4k, but faster at 1440p, and the OP specifies "1440p/2160p high end gaming", so if one is better for 1440p, it should still be on there imo.
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>>81462361
That's what I mean, why would you try and get an APU or settle for in Intel iGPU? Best case scenario you get a 4750G. Kinda stupid with a screen like that since I'm sure the screen would cost at least double.
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>>81461759
AMD released an 9800 card a few years ago and Ati did it more than a decade ago.
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>>81462404
yea, that asus montior is like 3000 usd or something insane like that.
he probably wants an htpc and watch 4k hdr movies or something.
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>>81462424
ATI did, not AMD.
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Is it worth paying for a premium gpu over a basic reference card?
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>>81462607
no
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>>81462615
unless the reference is a blower, then get the cheapest non blower card
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>>81462607
yes if the reference card is a blower
also yes for the 3090 unless you feel like changing the absolute garbage thermal pads yourself
maybe yes for the 6700xt since the reference cooler is mediocre but it's not terrible either
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>>81462404
Because the only way to get HDMI 2.1 is with an adapter that uses DSC over dp 1.4. My display needs HDMI 2.1.
>>81462404
What do you mean why? I just need a computer that I can connect to my display. Adapter specifically states it works with 11th gen intel igpu.
>>81462426
It's not an HTPC it's just gonna be my computer. A desktop computer. I use a desktop all day every day and need to replace mine.
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>>81462713
It just seems like an overkill display for a PC that isn't that strong. I mean no disrespect, just seems odd is all. Like you have a screen that demands more than you are giving it.
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>>81461930
> I guess intel's is still worse, because people who have no idea about any of this could put a power hungry CPU into a cheap motherboard, thinking it won't matter because it's just 65w, all the while frying their motherboard.
A cheap motherboard is more than likely to have power limits enforced with no real option to disable it
They are supposed to last just as long as the "good" motherboards
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Cardboard case guy here, got the shit together, booted it by shorting the pins and it didn't make it to Unraid, I'm unable to see the bios at the moment to see wtf is going on. Infact, I don't even know if the PSU had enough juice to power 5 hard drives.

I guess I'll insert the 560ti and see what is going on.
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>>81462776
kek, wtf, you'll burn down your house m8
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>>81462754
The monitor is the most important part of the computer and I wanted one big one not a bunch of tiny ones and 120hz for me is non negotiable for desktop use. Not games, which I odn't play, but web browsing and typing and shit. I mostly use my computer for web browsing but also chatting, music, torrenting occasional movies, etc.
So I just need a good computer that can do dp 1.4 and dsc. Almost all video cards can but I don't need a full blown video card and they're not obtainable anyway so an iGPU will be fine.
It's not clear anywhere which version of display port the amd APUs like the athlon 200ge use or the 3500u use(theres a barebones mini pc with it for $360 but id of course prefer to build my own like i always do.).
It's not DSC so much as HDMI 2.1 that I need, which I can't have because only amd 6 and nvidia 3 series cards have it so I'm going to use the club3d CAC 1085 adapter.
also almost all TVs this year will accept a 4k 120hz signal over hdmi 2.1. there's a sony one that's 43" in their budget line and accepts it. This is going to be much more common use case for desktops in the future as monitors become more and more outdated and shit compared to "tvs".
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3700X is 65W TDP and 5800X is 105W TDP, but noctua's chart says its lower profile coolers "cannot handle base clock" on the 3700X but are OK for the 5800X. what gives?
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>>81462776
based
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>>81462776
>>81462821
Two of the HDD lights are not active, this is not a promising sign. I think this is just too much draw for an old shitty PSU like this. One of the original wires on the HDD enclosure got cut by rubbing on a fan so I'm actually concerned that the drives are shot now. The PSU on the old NAS also died at the same time so I've not been able to determine these kind of details and I have no money to dedicate towards replacement parts and cases.
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>>81462776
>>81462897
dude, at least screw in the standoffs for that mobo and only plug in your fucking boot drive for starters
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>>81462860
TDP means fucking nothing
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>>81462958
The USB is the boot drive, I can't see whats going on since I have no video output so this $0 recovery build has ended.
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>>81462607
reference is very solid this gen
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>>81462318
i'd easily pick the dell from those two options.
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>>81462860
AMD's TDP calculations are reverse engineered to be similar to Intel's, slightly less but still, meaningless numbers. In reality the CPU will simply cut boost until it achieves a temperature within spec (usually 90-95°C). Still, if you can possibly avoid using such a low-profile cooler you should do so. Even a 120mm AIO would be better.
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>>81462897
Don't see what people are freaking out about. I ran a PC like that for years. Even worse because I removed the PSU and CPU fans. Couple drives on pieces of foam and an ancient SSD for the OS. Computer hardware doesn't need to be pampered.
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>>81463285
Pampered hardware Ironically is the stuff most likely to give up on you
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How do I buy a 3080
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>>81463494
very carefully
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Why is the mark up on the 6700xt less severe than other cards I see? They are selling for the same as the 5700xt on ebay.
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my odyssey g7 arrived
i think i like it
the curve is werid, but i think i'll get use to it
i prefer it over my lg 32gk650f for sure
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>>81463593
cause who wants amd lmao
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>>81462318
that's not even a question is the 6800xt is massively superior.
and that's a sick price. that's less than just a 3080 costs for a card that will be better than it when they're done with the bios editor and flasher and you get anice cpu.
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Should I just buy a 1060 super or a rx 590 and wait till the market stabilizes a little more or just go all out and wait to see if I can get my hands on a 30 series.
follow up question what would be the next step up in cards after the 1660 super and the rx 590?
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>>81462659
all 3090s except the kingpin have bad thermal pads and vram cooling
the FE isn't unique there, and has a better cooling system and power limit than most cards
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>>81461345
Damn, that's sort of what I feared. I have a couple of other spare parts and random junk I've been meaning to sell off for a while, so I might be able to sell those and "break even". Thanks for the info.
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Why?
Also what can I get the is about the same as it but cheaper?
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>>81461001
about 35%, yes, yes
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>>81463690
yes, probably, maybe, depends really
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>>81463664
>when they're done with the bios editor and flasher
can you elaborate on what this means exactly?
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>>81463777
chia
>>81463690
I would buy cheap and wait to stabilize next year. rtx2060 or 5600xt
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>>81463593
youtube reviews were salty because no stock. no nvidia meme tax.
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Best MINING GPUs?
Im looking to buy a few dozen. I dont mind used...
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Oh also a monero CPU
thanks
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>>81463979
3080/3060ti
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>>81463979
This is honestly a bad time to start mining. Profitability has been going down, despite ethereum prices going up. If you insist though, everything from the 3000 series, navi/vega are all really good. Polaris is honorable mention but too overpriced.
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>>81462275
NZXT just uses rebranded Seasonic PSUs?
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Does an NVME compete with the GPU for the PCIe bandwidth?
Sorry if dumb question but I read once that M.2 SATA drives actually compete with the SATA_0 port on the mobo. Basically meaning you couldn't use both at the same time
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>>81464130

no.
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>>81464053
Profitability has actually gone up a bit in spite of decreasing payouts just because of the price increase.
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>>81464088
All PSUs not made by Chinese bootleggers are made by a handful of OEMs.
Most NZXT PSUs are Super Flower, actually.
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Canada. Looking for a build <$1000. My old system died so looking to get one asap. Primary use is for games and blender. I currently have a 1050ti which I think I'm going to use until the price of cards goes down to a reasonable amount. I have two monitors a 1080p 144hz and a shitty 900p monitor. Here's what I'm currently thinking of getting https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/WJ6fLP
Concerned about the Mobo and PSU choice the most.
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currently have a rig with a GTX 1070. is it worth waiting for the 4000 series, or should I just go for the 3090?
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>intel 11th gen
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>>81462607
I dunno, i really like FE because of the aesthetics.
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Is having 4 x 4GB RAM better than having 2 x 8GB, or is it basically the same thing?
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amd driver's are such hot trash holy fucking shit
amd radeon software has stopped opening up again after a restart
holy fucking shit fuck this bullshit
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>>81464358
I'm new to /g/, but i couldn't help notice that 11th gen launched last month, and 12th gen launches in September. Effectively making 11th gen 5-months long. Wtf?
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>>81464404
Unless you have quad channel there's no point afaik.
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>>81464405
I installed ryzen master when I got my CPU thinking it would be convenient or useful for something. Big mistake. Awful software. Uninstalled it and went back to doing everything in BIOS.
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whats the chepaest cpu/mobo to mine with? i already have other parts.
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>>81464053
nuh uh
i recouped my investment in 2 months
but admittedly it was
>a used card
>before the shortages
still, bretty good. I can sell it at twice the price but i dont see why id kill my chicken that lays golden eggs. It prints money!
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acdf
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The 5800x at 419.99 looks so fucking good.
Finally might be time to upgrade from my 1600.
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So cryptoniggers are really coming for SSDs too huh

Gas All Cryptoniggers
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Anyone have some budget webcam recommendations?
I need one for an online course I'm taking soon and have no fucking idea what I'm even looking for.

Budget would be like 100€ max I guess.
Should I just grab a random cheapo Logitech?
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>>81462225
I feel buying used card from the chinks is like a coinflip, but goddamn $150 for an used RX 570 4Gb is tempting
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>>81464672
If you really want to save money, there are some Android apps which allow you to use your smartphone camera(s) as a webcam over a cable or a wifi network.
The hard part is getting the phone to stand up
Otherwise, just get a cheapo Logitech.
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>>81464627
why not get like literally anything else
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Post good pre-built.
Budget can go to 2700 Dorrah
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>>81464780
>good
>prebuilt
pick one (1) and only one (1)
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>>81464789
Say that again while posting gpu prices which would take my entire budget alone.
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>>81464419
becuase its a massive flop.
>huge energy demand
>big temps
>performance not better than a 9th gen
>costs more all around because le epic intel exclusive socket
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>>81464841
>flop
T. Radeon shill
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>>81464404
You can get 8gb sticks with great frequency and timings.
4gb sticks seems to top out at 3200mhz and 16-18-18-36.

But in an imaginary world where you could get 4gb sticks with the same great timings as 8gb sticks then 4 x 4gb would be dual rank dual channel.
Contrasting against 2 x 8gb which would be single rank dual channel.
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>>81464419
Nothing's really clear about 12th gen. Some people have claimed that September 2021 is just the launch for the mobile CPUs, which is in line with how intel has release the previous two generations, so it wouldn't be out of character. They also claim Q1 2022, is when desktop 12th gen will actually launch.
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>>81464419
In reality it's more that it is completely redundant and the Intel 10th gen are pretty much equal or superior to it. 11th gen has no 10 core equivalent nor does it improve much.
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>>81464780
The good ones are OoS.
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>>81464331
The 3090 was the worst value of all the new cards out of the box and it's still getting scalped for like double the price. No it's not fucking worth it.
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>tfw finally get selected for newegg raffle and it isn't the GPU I wanted
Guess I shouldn't always just check it all. I got selected for the 6700xt but I already have a 5700xt. Not a big enough bump for the combo price.
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>>81464587
>Uninstalled it and went back to doing everything in BIOS
Yeah Ryzen Master honestly does more to get people to using and learning what the Bios. Doing Ram OC's in it is legit hell.
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Will 12th gen use the same socket as 11th
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>already have 2070 super
>got a buy link for an rtx 3060
>bought it so I can resell it

Paid 400 for it, how much of a return should I aim for? I don't want to be that bad of a scalpcuck.
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>>81465063
No. LGA 1700.
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>>81465063
No.
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compare these for me please.
https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-shiva-0210-ne/p/N82E16883289096

https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Chronos-Gaming-Desktop-Motherboard/dp/B08M6F6NN3

https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Siege-3-0-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B08JFHQJ9B/ref=pd_di_sccai_5?pd_rd_w=4oGaz&pf_rd_p=c9443270-b914-4430-a90b-72e3e7e784e0&pf_rd_r=JZ4R9AFWDWAEF4PPX9P7&pd_rd_r=b4624420-9cd5-4a5a-8cdc-2dfa22674962&pd_rd_wg=PbUN1&pd_rd_i=B08JFHQJ9B&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Legacy-3-0-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B08M7J1L8R/ref=pd_di_sccai_4?pd_rd_w=4oGaz&pf_rd_p=c9443270-b914-4430-a90b-72e3e7e784e0&pf_rd_r=JZ4R9AFWDWAEF4PPX9P7&pd_rd_r=b4624420-9cd5-4a5a-8cdc-2dfa22674962&pd_rd_wg=PbUN1&pd_rd_i=B08M6GX9KB&th=1
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>>81465083
they sell 1k on amazon, sell it for 600 if your a slight moralfag and sell it for 800 if you just don't want to feel bad about it but neither good.
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>>81465083
The price bump is based off of opportunity loss mainly. You charge them how much you would have made if you properly mined on that new card for X amount of months.
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>>81465163
Kill yourself bitcoinnigger
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>>81465128
Thinking about asking for 699 on craigslist, and requiring that the buyer prove they're a gamer. I want a little bit of pocket cash but I also want to reward people who won't use this for mining bullshit.
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>>81465170
You do know you can mine and do other stuff with a GPU asides from gaming?
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>5900X
>6900XT
>5 case fans
>4 SSDs
>Sound Blaster AE-9
I guess I can't go wrong with a 850W psu.
However I am still unsure about single vs multi rail.
I think the additional protection provided by multi rail would benefit my soundcard, SSDs and fans.
>Ion+ 860W (single rail, FD not known for psus) - 170$
>Dark Power 12 750W (multi rail, apparently has severe qc issues in 2021) - 229$ (or 287$ for 850W)
>Straight Power 11 Platinum 850W (multi rail, same qc issues, only 5 years warranty) - 188$
>HX850 80 Plus Platinum 850W (multi rail, old --> PSU released 2017, based on 2014 platform) - 220$
>RM850x 2018/2021 850W (single rail, only gold, new version is louder because of worse airflow) - 166$
>Enermax Revolution D.F. 850W (multi rail, only gold, seems to be cheapis and unproven) - 137$
What's the best PSU?
Noise is important to me, so the more silent the new PSU will be, the better.

Also, I am not trying to cheap out on this point, but what PSU has the best value and suits my system the best?
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are there raffles other than newegg.com/product-shuffle?
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>>81465338
i actually won a 3060 today
free upgrade for me because im going to sell my old card for about the same price

thanks covid
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Reminder than only npc's win raffles.
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looking for a good 1440p 24" monitor with good response time. any suggestions?
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>>81456268
>>81451106
Reporting in

>>81460642
Wait what. Do you have any screencaps of this option or at least a update package id? I need to see this before I update.
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how can I tell when I should replace my psu? I havent had any power problems but my pc has seen a lot of unexpected power cuts (room used to randomly lose power like twice a week, good now) and Id rather make sure I have a good psu that wont fuck my pc one day before I install anything expensive into this
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https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-shiva-0210-ne/p/N82E16883289096

is anything wrong with this computer?
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>>81465471
doesnt come with gentoo installed
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>>81464984
worst value has very quickly become best value, as it has the lowest markup and is the easiest to get at MSRP still, allowing it to pay for itself better than any other card
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>>81464987
Why would you upgrade from a $400 previous gen gpu? Seems insane
oh well I guess it's probably worth more than 6700xt msrp right?
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At what point does a stock cooler become not good enough? It's fine with an i3, right? How about an i5?
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>>81465108
>>81465111
Why is incel like this
Fucking jews
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>>81464331
sit on it. it's not worth upgrading with prices inflated. it's not like there's any games worth playing right now anyway. a 1070 runs genshin impact just fine
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>>81465636
Always been that way. 2 generations per motherboard and you're out. Apparently they are planning to support 3 generations on LGA1700 (thank AMD for this) but we'll see how that will play out.
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>>81465608
Poorfag here. The stock fan of my poorfag i5 has been working fine for many years
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>>81464283
Honestly i'd consider a prebuild. Lots of people buying pre-builds to get the video card and dumping the system at value cost. If you can find an ABS system, or Alienware or other prebuild you can save a good chunk of change. I recently picked up a Alienware Aurora R11 with i5 10400F, 16GB XMP2 and 512GB nvme for $500. The previous owner literally bought it just to extract the video card it came with.
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Is there a benchmark with a competently done OC 5800x or 5950x(I think those two have the best silicon?) vs intel 10 and 11?
gamersnexus is running rocket lake at like enforced intel stock settings. How's the 11700k with max oc and good ram? The 11600k oc looks great on gamersnexus and I cant imagine the 11700 is worse. Not saying rocket lake is good just wanna know how it zen 3 and 10900k do relative to each other when each is shown in the absolute best light with the best ram for each.
I have a full water loop with a thick 280, 360, and 140 radiator. Looking to replace my 6700k so I can use it and my mobo and ram with igpu as a second pc for my workshop.
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>>81465735
Is there a benchmark you would like me to run on my 11900k?
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Ironwolf Pro 4tb for 132€ a good deal?
Also, before they crush the market, is 500gb nvme enough just for OS and softwares, no other file ever?
If so, your to-go 500gb nvme?
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post the best SFF case
I'll wait
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>>81459265
huh? i looked up enterprise ssds and they seem to have a lower TBW than the ones in my pcpartpicker liszz.
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>>81465735
>https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/10900k-vs-11900k/1
This is 10th vs 11th but they're both OC'd to the edge of what's possible with expensive ram and good silicon. 10900k wins vs the 11900k on average.
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>decide to clean out case
>dust headsink
>re-seat
>fire it up
>fans, hdd, graphics card power up, but no signal from graphics card out of any port
>aside from all the hardware whirring away and power light on mobo, no other signs of life
>lights on mouse light up briefly when moved, then remain dimmed.
fun times are currently being had
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>>81466218
over or under mounting pressure?
I've had a hell of a time with slightly worn out stock Intel and AMD coolers, getting them to mount properly.
>>81466122
Do you have an answer in mind already?
I think the answer changes depending on preferred volume, CPU cooling solution, etc.
but each category/tier definitely has the most logical choices. All other alternatives are wastes of money.
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>>81465554
I got a 1440/144 monitor cheap a while back and really want to max it out on ultra settings. If I could get a 3070, I would upgrade for the dlss.
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>>81466218
bro your mobo error code numbers? how about some basic trouble shooting. it's probably something inconspicious like ram not mounted properly or 4pin cpu power connector loose. in either case refer to the mobo error code.
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>>81466297
mostly asking to see what people's choices are for a SFF case
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>>81466312
>would upgrade for the dlss
Doesn't that make the image look slightly worse because of the AI?
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>>81466421
I've got a bias but for me it's the FormD T1.
Other SFF cases have marginally superior airflow and thermal performance while being larger and louder.
If you wanna go full watercooling for both GPU and CPU, I'd look somewhere else.
As hardware gets hotter and hotter, I wouldn't recommend a single 240mm rad for both your GPU and CPU, and dual-rad setups in the T1 might be 1) too janky and 2) already at their performance limits.
Otherwise, the T1 is perfect for an all air build, or an aircooled GPU and a 240mm watercooler for your CPU, or vice-versa.
GPU compatibility is excellent, being able to fit some of the largest cards out there. The size compatibility on the website is incorrect (on purpose) - for reference, I've got a MSI 2070 Super Gaming X in there, a relatively taller card.
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Bros i wanna build my first pc and in the shithole where i live there is a 40 dollars dif between Ryzen 3400G and 2400G ¿Is it worth the price? Wich one is better if i want to add a nice gpu in the future (I want to edit, stream and play games like Squad)
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>>81462162
Ampere pulls ahead due to FP32.
There is no noticeable dropoff in IC/memory with N21 at 4K.
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>>81466534
I want to do the T1 or a similar clone like the Ghost or Meshlicious, but I'm worried about my 3090 backplate being right up against a flat surface with no room for fans or heatsinks.
How insane/stupid would I be to construct a slide-out PCIe bracket?
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>>81466589
what's your budget? rather than buy new parts you consider parting together something from used parts? in general under $1000 you can put together a 5600x or 3700x build.
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>>81466665
I'm guessing you're talking about the FE 3090?
Yeah, I'd look elsewhere. You've probably already seen Optimum Tech's video on the subject.
I don't think it's too stupid to build a bracket - it'll be a stopgap for now, and who knows what kind of GPU you'll buy next time around.
Then the T1 (or whatever clone you get) will do just fine.
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>>81466589
Ryzen APUs are pretty good nowadays, just go for the best possible one you can afford. rest should be cheap enough. Get 16gb @ 3200.
you can cheap out on the motherboard imo.
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What ever happened to Intel's video cards? Would more GPUs on the market drive down the price a bit?
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>>81466672
Like 1000 dollars max, i was thinking of buying new parts and thought of getting the 3400G beacuse the prices are crazy here, the R5 5600X is 300 USD and a Gtx 1050ti is 450 USD

>>81466752
I was thinking of a gigabyte b450m ¿Is that okay? lol
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>>81465392
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>>81466817
don't buy a video card right now. buy a good system and run integrated until gpu prices stabalize. 5600x $300, 16GB 3200 DDR4 $100, Case $80, 800W Gold PSU $120, 590x value chipset mobo $150, 512GB NVME $100. etc You can build a decently GOOD system which is value/performance optimized with that budget. Remember that you will be using it a long time, so get good parts now so you don't wind up spending more to upgrade midcycle in the future.
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>>81466920
>buy integrated
>proceeds to list cpu with no igpu
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>>81466817
>Gtx 1050ti is 450 USD

Only a retard would pay that much for a $80 card. These things were targeted at the $120-150 segment when they were NEW.
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>>81466589
>2400g vs 3400g
2400g is Zen.
3400g is Zen+.

There are probably going to be a couple of games you'll play a lot.
I'd look on youtube to see how those games perform on these APUs.
I'd go with whatever APU reached good enough + small margin.

>>81466817
>gigabyte b450m
Here's an old graphics about how much power mobos can push.
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>>81466949
Gigabyte 2060 for 700€.
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>>81466939
there's no shortage of GT710's at their ACTUAL msrp of $50. just suck it up and buy one of those to use in the meantime.
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Just bought a new GTX1080 for 600€.
Life sucks.
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>>81466751
I have a partner 3090 (Zotac), but all of them get pretty toasty on the back. It's just fundamental to the design.
I want a case I can take around in my backpack, but I don't care about the footprint when I'm not on the move.
maybe I can try one of those adjustable diagonal PCIe brackets?
Or maybe if I can put some thermal compound between the backplate and the spine and stick some heatsinks on that?
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>>81466961
1.5x the msrp of a 3080
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I'm thinking about buying a 1660 super OC from shopblt for around 270. It'll probably take a couple of months to actually ship, which I'm fine with, but I'm afraid during that time the prices of RTX cards will stabilize. What do you guys think?
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God, moving from old PC to newly built PC is such a pain in the ass.
I wish I had just cloned my fucking OS drive and be done with it. I mean, is installing 'fresh' worth it at this point?
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>>81465328
If your worried about noise get the passive 700w unit from seasonic
It will surely let you know if it's not enough power plus the warranty is like 12 years
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God i wish i had a 20XX series founders edition.
they look so cool bros
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>>81467041
It's 270$. That's only 50$ over MSRP.
If you are that worried about 50 fucking dollars you should not be looking at 30-series cards to begin with.

And no, if you are waiting and expecting prices to come down anytime within the next year, maybe even two, you are an idiot.
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>>81466958
Im retarded ¿Does that mean that i shouldn't buy the B450M Ds3h? ¿Wich one then?
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>>81467150
You can start by learning English.
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>>81467150
Graphic says that it should be able to handle an overclocked 3600x, or a stock 3700x.
Which is probably as far as you're likely to go in terms of future upgrades.
Though other mobos might be better.
This mobo is still probably fine.
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>trying to emulate on yuzu
>6800xt is running like fucking shit
Fucking amd. Can't believe opengl drivers are such shit still.
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>>81467154
rekt lmao
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>>81467182
Thanks bro i'll look more into that then

>>81467154
S-Sorry anon i'll try to do better
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>>81467012
Gotcha. Pretty tricky then.
I don't know the exact bracket/cable/riser situation with the Meshilicious, but it does support 4-slot cards, so you might be able to offset the riser mount to have your 3090 one-slot away from the motherboard.
I dunno how a diagonal bracket would fare in these tiny sandwich cases. You'd be blazing a trail because I haven't seen anything like that yet in the sandwich SFF community.
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>>81466534
How do I actually buy one of these? I've signed up on the website to get stock updates, but I never actually get them. I found out like a week late that they were going to be in stock last month and I completely missed my chance/didn't get any notification.
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>>81467131
>And no, if you are waiting and expecting prices to come down anytime within the next year, maybe even two, you are an idiot.
How do you figure?
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>>81467316
It's manufactured by Lian Li so stock will probably be leagues better than other boutique SFF cases by this design team.
https://ssupd.com/pages/wheretobuy
I guess keep checking regularly. The design team also communicates the most consistently from the SSUPD subreddit.
Good luck.
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>>81466534
>200$ small-formfactor case
dude what the fuck
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>>81467339
Sorry, I meant the FormD T1, I should have been specific.
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>>81467316
>>81467339
>>81467370
oh shit wrong reply. That was my bad.
They've stopped production on the V1.1
V2 is coming eventually.
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>>81467330
have you been living under a rock anon
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>>81467356
Yeah, it's pretty steep. The colors other than black or silver have even higher prices.
It's a combination of super low production volume and CNC aluminum production method.
The V2 is apparently supposed to be designed with more affordable construction in mind.
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i've been using an i5 2500k at 4.5hz and a 1060 for like 20 years or something, what will happen if i put a 3080 ftw3 in there? i managed to get one recently from evga. would there be some crazy bottleneck? will i have to just build a whole new pc with a different cpu to benefit from the 3080?
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is it justifiable to buy a ps5 from a scalper but not a gpu?
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>>81467489
the only thing justifiable to do to a scalper is curb stomp them
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>>81467462
Make sure you have a 750W PSU ideally. You might be able to scrap by with a 600W - depends on the make and model.
CPU will definitely bottleneck you.
At this point, it's time to do Extreme Home Makeover.
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>>81467390
People are starting to get vaccinated in America, so that should drive down demand somewhat, right? I don't know shit about crypto though.
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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-rmx-series-rm1000x-80-plus-gold-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-black/6459246.p?skuId=6459246
Yessss finally found something in stock. This is a reasonable buy right?
>>
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>>81466958
Eh no entries for b550m
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>>81465408
get at least 27 for 1440p
ips is the best of VA colors and TN response time
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>>81467562
amd destroyed intel but nvidia is going to be a whole other animal.
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>>81467524
nigga there's a substrate shortage in Taiwan (aka where TSMC is, the kniggas that make your cool shit) so supplies will be limited for months, maybe a year or two.
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>>81467660
Is the back log really that big? Shit..
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>>81467690
I was on the 3060 wait list for EVGA on day one in february. I just got my email today. Gonna resell it anyway kekekek
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Just sold my 6700xt for $850. What's the feel for this?
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>>81467732
You're driving home in a cadallic, from your shitty office job feel
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>>81467732
Seems cheap
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>>81467524
There's an unprecedented silicone shortage going on right now, it's not just GPUs that are fucked but everything that needs chips, GM can't make enough cars, Phillips is struggling with their smart fridge production, etc.
Doesn't help that Chinese mining farms buying up estimated 80% of all GPUs straight from the factory either.

This isn't just some short term price fluctuations because more people want to build PCs my dude, this is a large scale world wide crisis that won't stop until there's a lot more fabs up and running, which won't be possible for actual years.
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>>81467762
after fees. got fucked there
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Will the day ever come when software is so unbelievably bloated that an i5 2500k won't be able to open simple applications and everything chugs like it's running on an Atom N270?
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>>81467774
Well you can make anything bloated, just depends on how retarded your coding is.
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>>81467766
Where can I read more about this?
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>>81467787
The news?
Like what the fuck, did you just lock yourself away from the world for the past year without internet or television or anything?
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>>81467804
Yeah actually. I stopped using the internet since December. Just got back online about a week ago.
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>>81467774
I think it's more likely for an architecture change to happen before that does, so x86 just won't be able to open new programs.
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>>81467212
Should've listened to the sheriff while you had the chance to
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How is this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Ktst8
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>>81467777
But there's an acceptable level of bloat that devs are willing to put out into the wild, that has gone up with time, but how much time?
>>81467851
Like when firefox stopped supporting cpu's that lacked sse2. It's reasonable that they could depreciate all the instruction sets, but a change away from x86 so software is no longer supported on it is more likely to happen before that?
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>>81467970
You can buy better ram at that speed with lower latency for a couple dollar more. If this rig is just for gaming you definitely won't need that overpriced ssd; just buy a gen 3 TLC ssd for around 100.
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Just installed my 6900 XT to replace my 980 Ti, feelsgoodman. I have a 5950x with a Celsius S24, 64GB 3600 MHz, and a 2TB M.2 SSD arriving tomorrow. Is there anything more top of the line I can get?
>inb4 cable shit
I stopped caring a long time ago about aesthetics, it just works
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>>81468070
crosshair viii dark hero and 1600W titanium psu
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>>81468028
The atom was already low performance when it released but the 2500k is the opposite.
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>>81468050
like?
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>>81468098
For what purpose
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>>81468137
To flex on the poorfags
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>>81467562
but i thought we were faster AMDrones...
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Anyone with b450m (more specifically gigabyte b450m s2h)? I can't see where would I put a wifi card in
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>>81468194
Pcie x1 wifi card in one of the two x1 slots. You can get wifi 6 pcie cards for pretty cheap.
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>>81467552
Please respond
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>>81468210
Nice. Can I just plug this thing that I salvaged from a dead laptop?
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>>81468308
>>81468210
Sorry i mean this
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>>81468308
the laptop card probably is not pcie, if you can buy a different mobo you can get one with wifi, but it seems you already bought it, USB is an option too if your GPU is blocking ports.
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>>81468104
This probably isn't a good analogy, but windows xp actually runs pretty decent on an atom, but windows 7 feels pretty bloated and slow to run on an atom. Windows 7 runs fast on a 2500k, and so does windows 10. I think that there is a peak bloat that is going to be reached at some point other than increasing standards like 4k and 8k video editing which aren't so much bloated, just big for the fact of what they are, and that same thing goes for games. Games aren't made bloated on purpose, but they are trying to match hardware capabilities with level of detail of the environment. But the programs that are bloated for no reason are what I think will reach a peak. Maybe if they start integrating machine learning into every facet of an application bloat will continue on, I guess it's naive to think that bloat will ever stop.
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>>81467462
Literally nothing if you don't switch to a 4k monitor. Your CPU already bottlenecks your 1060, a 3080 will be just the same.
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>>81462346
but you do think an ultrawide is worth if its basically the same as 2 monitors or bigger? im just worried about losing 144hz on a monitor that big
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>>81468330
No, that is a different form factor. Something like https://www.newegg.com/edup-ep-9636gs-pci-express/p/0XM-00X2-00027?item=9SIAH19BBJ6920&cm_sp=SH-_-389148-_-8-_-1-_-9SIAH19BBJ6920-_-Edup-_-edup-_-1

That card is just an intel wifi 6 card under the heatsink.
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>>81468330
Usually the antenna is built in to the frame of a laptop. You would need some sort of alternative. I am also not positive but I vaguely recall mini pcie needs an adapter so you would have to Google around or see if it fits
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my old craptop died and ive been saving up for a pc
im currently looking at gtx 1060 since those were popular from steam hardware surveys, but is that really recommended?
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>>81468565
for 1080p gaming at mid-sometimes high settings at 45 to 60 fps. yes.
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dicks cord with a bunch of nerds, linux users, and just tech people overall

really comfy

invite:
fever
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Last time I checked Intel fell behind when AMD released the Ryzen 3000 series. Has Intel come back with an answer yet? My 1700x is slowly starting to show its age.
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>>81468822
we'll see when alder lake drops, rocket lake was a big turd for anything above their 6 core offerings
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I have the latest AMD driver but no option to record, it is gone, what happened?
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>>81461353
What? I have a Nitro+ 4GB version with 1400MHz stock and I have paid 160 Canadian bucks in 2020
what the fuck?!?!
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>>81469168
amd fucked the drivers again lol what's new
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>>81469168
either its disabled or your retarded chose to do the "minimal install" when you updated.
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>>81469168
Did you choose minimal install?
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>>81469244
>>81469248
No, full package. Will try again
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I am currently using a Athlon 3000G and a RX 580
when I use both GPUs my game Sekiro crashes after loading, why? No matter what GPU is used as primary. DS:R, DS2, DS2 SotFS and DS3 run fine
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>>81468360
thats the thing, an ultrawide isn't like two monitors.
a SUPER ultra wide, like the odyssey g9 are like two monitors.
i personally wouldn't get an ultradwide but i do think that they are nice.
check a monitor review of the model you would like to get first in order to not regret your decision.
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>>81467552
yes, you can never go wrong with corsair psus.
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can a graphics card kill their pcie slot?
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Fucking shortage
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Where the fuck are the 3060 Ti's?
Even if they are overpriced, I still manage to see 3060s, 3070s and even the 3080s sometimes in stock, but I don't think I've seen the 3060 Ti since the week it launched.
It's all I need for my R5 3600 1440p build.
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>>81469833
they are probably cut down 3070s and probably yields have been decent and the 3070s fly off the shelves for more money than the 3060tis.
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>>81469833
3060 Ti is made from trash dies that can't cut it as a 3070. Yields are probably pretty good and the 3070 is already slightly cut down so they aren't forced to make many. As long as they can sell all the 3070s they manufacture there's no reason to make any extra 3060 Tis.
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What did you buy instead of a new GPU. I'll start.
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How bad is this build? My current computer is over 6 years old and in the market to get a new one. In the UK and my budget is about 1.5k
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>>81469893
instead of 32gb 2666 get 16 gb of 3200-3600
buy peripherals seperatly because SI mark up keyboards and stuff and you can get better stuff for less.
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>>81469893
Bump processor to 3600 or better.
Bump ram speed to 3000mhz or better.
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>>81469889
3d printer, 990s, custom mech keeb, custom watercooling loop, new mouse, new monitor, didn't need a new gpu as bad as i thought i did
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>>81469889
nothing (i am poor)
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>>81469943
Based
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>>81469920
How big of a difference does RAM speed affect?
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>>81469979
quite much, especially for gaming and stuff.
get the fastest 16gb ram you can and adjust your fclk accordingly. you can look up on youtube how to do it.
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>When I was young a Gerofrce 6600GT was like a couple hundred bucks max

>The current lineups midrange card is like well over a thousand

How the FUCK should this be allowed? PS5's are absolutely value for money right now what the fuck
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LG 27GP850, Gigabyte Aorus FI27Q-X or hold out for a decent quality high refresh 4k monitor (hopefully) later in the year? Main uses would be light gaming (nothing current or AAA-tier), media consumption and content creation; would be driven by a 6800xt or better. Not sure if the $700 for the FI27Q-X wouldn't be better spent on a monitor that's more """"future proof""""", i.e. 4k high refresh. I feel like high refresh 4k + good panel for under 1k is probably a pipe dream at this point though.
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>>81469999
its "free market" capitalism
the market will absolutely correct itself and corporations will in no way create a siituation like this in the future to exploit even more...
pic related
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>>81470006
depends on what size you want.
the actually only thing you can future proof is your monitor.
lg will release their 42 inch 120ht oled tv later this year. according to "market anal-cysts" its going to be sub 1k usd.
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do you guys think intel will do a multi-gen socket like am4 anytime soon?
i'm tired of buying and selling mobos every upgrade
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>>81469979
Depends on the game, but a few fps.
It's worth spending a *small* premium on, but not that much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH3qq_mSxTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IY_KlkQK1Q
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>>81470061
i doubt it very much.
amd will probably jump on to the multi mobo bandwagon as well.
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>>81469999
You can still buy cheap cards (or even use integrated graphics) and they run games fine at slightly lower settings. Hardware lineups and graphics settings both scale higher than they used to. Doesn't mean you have to go along with it.
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>>81470006
pipe dream? what about the gn950?
it has a fan though, that might get annoying in a few years.
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>>81460973
Do drive bays slow down connected SSDs or HDDs?

I want to be able to easily swap OS SSD without opening the case and playing with cables but not to slow the SSD down.
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>>81469988
Is Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 3600 MHz CL18 okay?
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>>81470164
patriot is really good. check if there is potentially curcial ballistix in the same specs available that might be cheaper
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>>81470052
>lg will release their 42 inch 120ht oled tv later this year.
Well fug.
Unfortunately, I'm a desk/spacelet so 42 is likely going to be way too big for my setup. Ideally I'd like to avoid going over 34" if I can help it, and even then, 34 is pushing it. Realistically, 27-32" is the sweet spot for me, which I know limits panel options for 4k in that price range. What's the best way to keep up with monitor news/releases?
>>81470110
>gn950
Well, I thought it had the same panel issues as its 1440p nano-IPS brethren, but after double-checking just now it has a much better contrast ratio than the GL/GN/GP-850 so clearly I was mistaken. I think I was initially somewhat turned off by the price when I first looked at it and had since put it out of mind. Now that I'm looking at it again, it's actually a pretty good option. Not a fan of the fan, though.
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>>81470238
tftcentral.co.uk is what i keep checking. they are usually quite up to date and for reviews i usually check
hardware unboxed, they also do round ups every few months for the best monitors.
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>>81470238
it's still ips, we'll probably have to wait another decade for oled to trickle down to mainstream monitors
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>>81470249
>hardware unboxed
Yeah, Tim's my go-to guy for monitor reviews. If he hasn't reviewed it, I pretty much don't even consider it because I'm an absolute brainlet when it comes to the nitty gritty of monitors and Tim keeps it simple and easy to understand. Will check out tftcentral, thanks for the link.
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Noob here. Got an intel i5 4460. Do current motherboards still support it? What are my options?
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>>81469889
A nice new laptop.
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i just bought a used Xeon E5-2690 v2 to upgrade my pc
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This build alright for general gaming shit?
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>>81470006
a cx 48 is literally cheaper than 32" 144hz ips 4k new meme monitors will be, and not the local dimming thousand million zones meme ones just the regular ones too
>>81470061
lga1700 will probably be 3 generations or something
mobo change shouldnt be a problem because every generation upgrades is stupid anyway....
>>81469979
cpu limit games alot but you have to tweak manually at that point
4 ranks of ram at xmp 3600 is pretty much sweetspot without tweaking, 4x8 2x16
>>81467462
horrible bottlenecking
>>81467212
>Can't believe opengl drivers are such shit still.
>still
you are speaking like they havent given up on it and arent even working on it...
>>81470585
based laptopchad
>>81470916
>hdd in 2021
>dvdwriter
>unlocked cpu on locked mobo
so many weird things but it has a new cpu and a new gpu so.....
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>>81470916
yes, but at what cost?
>>81470522
>Do current motherboards still support it?
Nope, need to find a motherboard with FCLGA1150 socket
>>81470129
if its sata ssd than it doesnt slow down I think
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Anyone successfully used the BIOS flash button on their MSI x570 mobo to make it compatible with 5000-series ryzen?

Still not working for me after following the manual and looking at yt vids
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My screen tell me there is no display but I can boot and see my bios, it just won’t go into windows what do ?
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>>81471892
do you have an igpu and a discrete card?
if yes, plug into the gpu and in bios set it to use discrete graphics.
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>>81471912
I have a 1070 and it was working fine yesterday. When I go into bios I see my windows ssd, hdd and everything else. Might it be my display cable?
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Grabbed a WD20EZRZ, did I do good?
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>>81471947
i had an issue like that and what worked for me was what i said in this post >>81471912
and in the monitor menu there was an option for "deep sleep" so my monitor didn't wake up in windows but i still saw the boot screen and shit.

try a different port? do you have an igpu? if you do then try plugging it in there and see if the issue persists, might be your gpu giving up the ghost.
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>>81471957
>hdd
no...
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>>81471523
Is your usb stick formatted correctly ?
Did you download the right file ?
Did you rename the file to the correct thing ?
Did you put it the correct usb port ?
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>>81471967
I think it was my cable, just swapped dpi one with an hdmi and it’s working fine… thank you for taking the time to help me, cheers !!!
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>>81472094
yea you're welcome, glad its only your cable because a dying gpu these days would fucking SUCK



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