Who's side are you on?!
Apple. Nothing good comes from gamers and they’re always wrong.
>>81456932Crapple has like billions of dollars for their legal defense. We all know how this is going to pan out and their iSheep are going to lap it up like always.
Epic is a chink company so fuck them
>>81456955>"I'm an adult! I don't play children's games, I play with mens cocks instead!"
>>81456932Epic at least they try to fight monopoly.>>81456955what good came from Apple since Steve Jobs died?
Epic, I want to be able to easily sideload apps on my ishit device.
>>81456957Epic is also a gorillion dollar company and there's definitely diminishing returns at a certain point.
I'm more a seize the means of production kinda guy.
>>81456932Let them fight.
>>81456974>what good came from Apple since Steve Jobs died?A dead Steve Jobs
>>81457005So you use an iPhone 12 Pro Max?
>>81456974>Epic>fight monopoly>EPIC>FIGHT MONOPOLYNigga wtf you talking about
AppleIt's their fucking platform Epic gay is chink bullshit now so fuck em.
>>81456932>Epic is chink cancer trying to bring exclusivity garbage into PC gaming>Apple is the devilI'm unironically Apple, iFags deserve to have whatever cock their overlords seem fit up their asses.
>>81457043they fight steam and apple, both have monopoly.
>>81456932Is there a way they can both lose?
>>81456932Unironically Apple's.They're correct that having the ecosystem closed and completely sandboxed is what keeps it safe.I like having a choice. If I want to have a safe, curated ecosystem, I can go with Apple, if I want something more open, I can go with Android any day.Epic unironically wants to take away people's choice because making 70% of billions is too little for them.
Apple is a private company. They can evict whomever they want from their rose wall garden. Don't like it? Use android.
>>81457032No but also irrelevant >t. consoomer
appelandjeets need gassing
>>81457065Epic is going to lose. Apple has too many lobbyists and lawyers to lose.
>>81456932Epic, i love free gaymes.
>>81457062epic games:>provide sub-par service>use monopolistic practices to try and increase market share (exclusives, undercutting, ...)>chinasteam:>provide good product -> get users>$$$>cool dudes>no china
>>81457062>steam badOk Winne the Pooh. Steam doesn't have a monopoly they just have a large market share because they have a better service. It's not like they pay developers to not release on other platforms thereby actually creating a monopoly. LIKE EPIC DOES.
>>81456932I hope that both lose
Both sides are the same Walled garden assholes one makes shitty computers the other shitty games
>>81456932Apple of course
>>81457196Kek I always think of that welcome to the cum zone deepfake when I see that pic of Gaben.
Apple epic is just being ridiculous +i hate fortnite
>>81457167basedfuck tim and fuck chinks
>>81456932It's like asking whose shit sandwich you would want to pay for and eat? It's like asking which testicle / breast you would like cutting off with a blunt carving knife? It's like asking which house nigger you would want to rape you in prison, Deqwan or Shauntrese? If you have expressed a preference to the OP's question then you're a one ball/one tit, shit mouth with a sore arse. Now fuck off.
>>81456932Fuck them both. I hope these cancerous companies die. They begin to resemble late 70s car companies more and more every day.
>>81456932Epic. Fuck them but fuck Apple more.
>>8145693230% isn't something court can or will rule onto, every other claim Epic has is weak AF.
>>81456932Fuck all companies, I'm on the side of reason.If Apple wants to have a walled garden it's their good fucking right and they should be able to make any sort of stupid rule they want. Customers can tell them to fuck off if they don't like it since there are alternatives but a 3rd party should never have any fucking say in it.>>81457914He'd be a boring centrist in any civilized country.
>>81456932Epic is shit, but taking 5 bil from Apple is a win. So, Epic
>>81457163steam just launched in china idiot
>>81458068exists in china = chinese govt. owns 40% stake in company
>>81458068Who is in charge of Steam China? Protip: It aint Valve
im certain nearly everyone in this thread is a tourist to this board
>>81458271No its just american being americans
>>81456932in this particular lawsuit? epicgenerally? nobody
>>81456932>Who's side are you on?>Literally the two worst companies in existence
>>81458327honestly, this. if I had to pick. Le Epic for the win because then Apple cucks may be forced to have an "F-Apple" to go with F-Droid.
epic. don't care about video games but I hate walled gardens.
>>81456932Neither.They're both companies on the run for who steals the most
>>81458663So just don't use them? I don't get the fucking autism of trying to destroy something that has zero effect on you. Do you randomly walk around smashing cars because you don't like them either?
>>81458692Yeah bad things that are influential should be destroyed
Both are wrong
>>81459344Fuck off, centrist.
>>81456974It's not a monopoly.
>>81459464>You must pick a side, goyim!!
>>81458692So just don’t install stuff outside the App Store?I don’t understand the logic of controlling what other people do just because they wanted to use iMessage.
>>81459616>Just sit back and grill, goyim!
>being on the side of a corporationI'm on my side nigger
>omg!!! brand versus brand! my favorite brand are looking out for the little guyz!>i dont like other brand because they want to make money!
>>81459618The possibility of being able to do it without tons of extra steps is bound to make the amounts of malware in the wild explode.
It is completely unfair that apple assumes authority over what software is available on their OS. It defeats the purpose of the product but because phones are made for proletariats and plebeians alike, no one gave a shit. Now a massive company (epic) is challenging a system (Apple) that denies developers and consumers the freedom of their own software so that their massive company (epic) can make even more money. Apple isn’t just taking fractions of peoples and companies profit, they are selling customers through their device, a device that has been popularized by the music industry and commercialized social media. It’s really unfair that apple’s consumers are stupid enough to fall for these gimmicks and will collectively destroy industries like headphone manufacturers because they’re autistic enough to think AirPods sound good.
>>81456932Neither I'm just gonna watch and laugh at two big companies have a fight over money.
>>81459646I'm sitting back and laughing at you and there's nothing you can do about it. Stay mad
A 30% cut for literally anything or any service is complete extortion.
>>81459688>It is completely unfair that apple assumes authority over what software is available on their OS.Why? If I make a phone OS it's my good right to decide what works and doesn't works with it. You know it when buying the product and can get something else if you don't like my rules.
>>81456955fpbp I'd rather be on the side of the smirky apple cunt than a g*mer
>>81459732that's okay just do it yourself then
>>81459734Phones today are more specified than PCs 20 years ago but 20 year old PCs are still more capable of doing so much more than what a phone can do and you could still make your own software then for said machine on said machine. Phones are made arbitrary because they are for an even more general public.
>>81457068Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the only thing they seek to achieve to allow in app purchases without having to pay commission to Apple? The content remains the same, just the payment method would exclude Apple from getting a cut. That doesn't really change the walled garden ecosystem from a user perspective.
>>81459831Of course it does. If everyone is allowed to push for their payment system, there will be more scams going on and no universal rules for how the returns works and the likes.
>>81459916Fair point. I can see this potentially being a pretty big problem especially with children.
>>81459820Who gives a shit about a specific system? If I release laptops with anon-OS and it only works with .anon software that has a 500% markup when devs have to pay me five for their first million, it's my good right to do so if I'm open about it all. The customers and devs can then choose whether they want to join the party or not.
>>81459686>doesn’t know about the iOS malware distributed in App Store apps as dylibs.Fucking /g/ man
>>81456932two nigger faggot globocorpos fighting over money? sure it is a great thing to give a fuck about
>>81459688>It is completely unfair that apple assumes authority over what software is available on their OSHow? Its their hardware. That's like saying its unfair that you can't run xbox game pass on PS5.
>>81457068None of that is even true and why should anyone receive a fraction of your profit for what you made. Apple is essentially extorting their customers as if they own them. If you were to want to browse the internet, it wouldn’t make sense for apple to be able to dictate what you are and aren’t able to browse. The same thing should apply to the OS itself. It should be free to use.
>>81460066Nobody said it's perfect, it's far from it but opening more doors to malware would create a mess like Android or Windows. People who want that ... can use these.
Ideally they'd both go bankrupt
>>81456955on one side fpbp, fuck gaymerson the other hand supporting fagple is like stuffing your smelly boner into an ant colony
>>81460089If it’s there hardware then what am I being charged $1k for?You’re supposed to get *paid* when someone fucks you in the ass not the other way around.
>>81460118The right to use it. You made the choice yourself when you could buy something else.
>>81460098Then why doesn’t the mac have this problem?
>>81460143Much smaller market share. And they are starting to get more and more with their market share rising.
>>81459831Yes the issue is solely about money. Epic want all of it, Apple want some of it. Apple make $54 billion from their 30% store fee, Epic doesn't want to add to that number. The issue is you can sideload apps onto android, which Epic tells people to do so they get to keep all of the money and google can't do shit about that, but that's not the case with Apple where you can only do that if you jailbreak it and if Epic went around telling people to jailbreak their iphones they would be sued to death. Epic just doesn't want to pay. Everywhere else it's been able to get around it. When it comes to Apple, they can't. Fortnite is on the switch, Nintendo charge 30%, they don't care, 60 million switches is nothing compared to 1 billion iphones. All those store fronts charge 30%, except Epic who charge 12%. In my opinion, fuck epic.
>>81460160>we’re all too stupid to handle a personal computer and need to be sucking Tim’s cock at all times.— /g/
>>81460052WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING ON /g/ GET FUCKING READY BUDDY, IM LITERALLY GOING TO KICK IN YOUR DOOR AND SHOOT YOU AGAINST THE WALL MYSELF BUD.
>>81460185What about the users who would like some of the computer they paid for?
>>81460189Apple doesn't make products for you if you mind their restrictions. Shit's pretty simple.>>81460251If they aren't retards they research what they buy first.
>>81456932I only pledge allegiance to myself.
>>81460287>just accept the restrictions or be excluded from social groups, it’s that simple.Fuck off you dumb shill.
>>81456932Neither don't care
>>81460323Basically every exclusive business works that way. You're not getting into a high class restaurant just wearing your boxers either.
>>81456932Apple door the simple reason that they are in the right and Epic's in the wrong.>read platform terms and conditions>break platform terms and conditions>get kicked out of the platform>cry like a little bitchCase closed, fuck off.
>>81460356Going to a high class restaurant doesn’t require the waiters sharing a bed with me either though.
>>81456932The popcorn one. I hope they both get fucked hard with legal fees.
>>81456932>implying I have to be on a sideGet your false dichotomy shit out of here, neither one of those shit companies deserves any support at all.
Apple is a real company who releases real products. Epic is a children's toy company who is trying to leverage fortnight money into making themselves a big boy company and its not working.
>>81460423Shit tier: Supporting one over the otherBad tier: Supporting neitherGod tier: Supporting both
>>81456932Apple.Epic are just reeing and seething because they aren't Apple. They would do the same.
>>81460468I too am an egotistical retard.
epic is the lesser of the two evils and is pretty based for calling out apple.
>>81456932Is it possible for both parties to lose a lawsuit?
>ITT: One of the few times /g/ sided with Apple, of whom they try to make fun of every momentUn-facking-believable
>>81456932epic because it makes iniggers seethe
>>81457068>They're correct that having the ecosystem closed and completely sandboxed is what keeps it safe.And Android is compromised because its open? Low IQ take.>>81458447pretty much this>>81458692"just mind your own biz"... until those practices become a monopoly and you wonder how it could've happened to you
>>81461782>until those practices become a monopoly and you wonder how it could've happened to youMost people wouldn't care. It's the reason they can preach such bullshit in the first place. As long as there's something to consume, they will be content.
>>81456932iOS dev here, I don't really side with either because the arguments from the lawyers on each side have shown that neither really care about developers. Although, I do hope something changes, maybe even if it's for the worse, because these fucking markets need to be willing to change more rapidly. I want to see indie software devs be able to thrive most easily than indie game devs, which currently seems to be the opposite trajectory.