Portable EditionHow to request:>Location>Budget>Open or closed>Over-ear or on-ear>Intended use/music>Preferred sound profile>Measurement graphshttps://crinacle.com/graphs/headphones/https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/wiki/index/list_of_presetshttps://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/https://headphonedatabase.com/oratory>Reviews and opinionsAll are shit, just judge it by your own preferences, don't let some audiophool shill faggot on the internet tell you what to like.>How not to become a Audiophoolhttps://youtu.be/IiZqYnd5g8Mhttps://youtu.be/cIQ9IXSUzuMhttps://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2012/04/what-we-hear.html?m=1https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5016825/https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-19.htmlhttps://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/ending-the-windows-audio-quality-debate.19438/For anything about earphones, earbuds or IEM's, refer to >>>/g/iemg/Previous thread: >>81428873
fuck oratory, fuck crinacle, fuck amirmeasure your headphones on your own with the bakameasurement system with the gears you already own!ear simulator: cardboard, with a slot to allow phone go throughmicrophone: iphone se built-in microphone, placed close to driver as possiblesound source: laptop internal soundcard, white noisepic related, hd58x frequency response measured with the bakameasurement systema pinna gain correction is applied due to ear simulator having no pinna
>>81447387comparasion with oratory data and harman targetbass is slightly bloated due to environment noise, could compensate thatoverall the baka measurement system performs much better than i expected!
>>81447360Bring back the px200
reposting >>81446262 >>81437313want to pull the trigger on a l700MK2. is it worth it?
>>81447387>>81447402This shit really needs to get more affordable. There are already chink copies of 711 couplers, headphones when.
>>81447414not needed when you have this
Got an Asgard 3 on the way for the best Beyerdynamic headphone.
just blew cash on a l700mk2, how bad did i fuck up staxbros
>>81448823Ull be fine and welcome to the stax cul- i mean club!
Would Koss ESP/95X be the most recommended mid budget headphone if applying EQ is the norm, or is there some tuning issues that simply doesn't go away. I'm asking because I don't have one
>>81447360any suggestions for a set of headphones in the $300-$500 range? Preferably closed back but I will consider open back.
>>81447387who has an iphone. lmfao.
Do I truly need an AMP to make these run properly on PC? I mean I'm getting it nice and loud, but am I missing something? or is that as good as they could sound? Don't get me wrong it sounds very nice.
>>81449701it's only your loss if you're missing superior linear response for microphone
>>81447387Holy shit, the cope.
>>81447360Australia, looking for over ears mostly for commute, study and while at work, happy to throw 900 max if place uses afterpay, 400 if not, extremely excellent noise cancelling and capability preferred
>>81449718If it is nice and loud your computer audio might be just fine.
>>81447360let me guess, you need more?
What store/website would you recommend I look for headphones or any other stereo equipment?I don't know what exists anymore or if they're all just the big box stores that don't really specialize.
Looking for a recommendation for the best headphones I can get with strong noise isolation, independent of price. Location: Can/USBudget: Less than $2kProbably closed backs or IEMs if someone can convince me
>>81450515those purple pads on the ksc75 holy shidd
hopefully I'm not still banned for basically no reason. I really must have made a janny butthurt for that one post.>Locationusa>Budget100-150 that I've got in eBay gift cards, plus maybe and extra 100 for a cap of 250 if it looks interesting>Open or closedI don't own any proper closed headphones, so I'd like to give that a try, but open is good, too>Over-ear or on-eareither, but I already have some grados, ksc75s, porta pros, etc. I don't know what other on-ears are out there besides that triple-driver one with the car logo>Intended use/musicanything, but if there were something like the thx pandas in the low price range, that would be cool>Preferred sound profilegood imaging. neutral, but somewhat diminished bass like the ksc75s are good, toohonestly, I'll buy anything. not even headphone-related. I just need to figure out what to do with this gift card before it expires
post your endgames
>>81450880based, who's top tonight?
>>81451292this headband on >>81450515 that's it baby
>>81449718I'm gonna say yeah. My modern laptop can't even power a DT 770 80 ohm properly.
>>81447360Planning on getting the ATH M50X (or maybe M40X, still undecided btween them), but anyone know how well they'd work with the FiiO m3k (if at all)? Thought I'd ask before buying it. Don't have much money and don't give enough shits about music to spend over $300 aud.But mostly planning on listening to metal, rock, and synthwave if that's any help.
>>81447387>>81447402Finally, measurements we can trust.
>>81447415I used to own them before moving on the Focal Utopia. Your question is hard to answer if we don't even know what kind of sound you like. If I have to summarize the L700 MK2, they are pretty bright headphones with forward midrange and airy sound. Their upper mid is kind of harsh but I think the biggest weakness is the bass which lacks punch. Great resolution and speed, as typical of an electrostatic. I prefer these over the HD800S but they seem to be playing around the same level to be honest.
>>81452188I seem to miss this >>81437313. Imaging wise the HD800S are definitely better but their detail retrieval lost to the L700 MK2.
>>81452188is the focal utopia an upgrade to the hd800s in your opinion?
Does anyone else have trouble controling the volume and inflection of their own voice when talking with closed-back over-ears?If so, how to fix? I've been thinking about monitoring my voice back through my headphones.
Should I bother doing the detachable cable mod on a pair of DT770s if all I have accomplished so far with my soldering "skills" is replace a bunch of mechanical switches and solder a few LED strips together?Also, if I were to do this mod: Should I do it the same way everyone does it, by opening a hole and putting the jack there, or instead leave a bit of cable hanging outside the headphones, cut it and just use that instead like pic related? I saw an old ass video of Zeos saying this was probably more convenient.
>>81453127>how to fixopen back
so what DAC are you guys using
>>81453418Tempotec Sonata HD Pro with the Sonata BHD firmware
>>81453340Ask yourself if you really need it. Personally, I would not bother with that unless the original cable started shitting on me
>>81453340If it ain't broke don't fix it. And if I had to do a cable mod I'd go with the opening the cup and adding the 3.5 port
halo, in a croosrad i find myself>LocationSapin>Budgetunder 50 euros>Open or closeddont mind>over-eari prefer over ear> intended useis for study, something confable, i have huge ears.>prefered sounfd profiledont mind, something nice i guesthaks bois
>>81453418Douk dsd1796. It's ok, I bought it three years ago and it does the job fine.I also have a LG G5 Hi-Fi Plus Module that I got used (payed like 30 euros for it) and I use itwith my laptop and occasionally my phone. Don't really need more
>>81453552finereally to much excitement she will relax
>>81453546Superlux HD 660
>>81453552my bad, the location Spain. its been a rough morning
>>81453546Any superlux headphone with a pair of nice pads (you'll have to buy pads separately) will do the job for you
>LocationLeaf>BudgetUp to around 300cad if you think they're worth it. Willing to buy used.>Open or closedBoth, Either? I'd prefer closed because I don't live alone, but if the difference in presentation and imaging is worth it, then I'm willing to try. >Over-ear or on-earOver ear, unless there's some secret on-ear beast I don't know about>Intended use/musicI want something versatile and comfy. If I had to pick a genre I'm pickiest about, it's vocal EDM/electropop (if it sounds bad with yunomi, Hayden James or cashmere cat, it's a dealbreaker) but I still need those orchestral OSTs and local indie bands to sound good. If possible, I'd like to be able to game in them too. >Preferred sound profileI loved my Final E2000 to death, so something close to that. Definitely not neutral, but not too warm either. They don't sound as bassy as they look in the graph, but it's very present. Mids and treble were even and smooth but not lacking energy.
I have some unfortunate news. Yesterday my wh1000xm3 fell out of my head while carrying my dog after he headbutted me in the face and it fell onto concrete. It looks fine physically but it seems like right side driver is a bit more quiet now. I am going to miss listening to them daily... I am now a bit worried that the next wh1000xm3 I buy sounds a bit different due to unit variance. Does anyone know if sony has good qc?
>>81453924Oh i just realize the biggest factor to sound differences would be the pads. I have many hours of wear on my current one over the past 3 years...I hope I love the sound of an unworned wh1000xm3. I've forgotten what that sounded like
>>81454113If you like the sound of the worn in pads, why not just swap them out for your old pads?
>>81453924Before buying a new pair, disassemble the broken ones and check the wiring, it can be a really easy fix.
There's this frequency that produces a shrill in my HE400i 2020s and it really hurts my ears. Example is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMFHUTJ13Ys starting the 0:40 mark, the part in the instrumental that sounds like keys. Can anyone help me EQ this?
Looking for a new pair of headphones. The whole wireless market is not making it easy for me, i could use some recs.>LocationEurope>Budgetaround 300€ >Open or closedPreferably Closed>Over-ear or on-earPreferably over-ear>Intended use/musicPC / Phone, All types of music, no Amp>Preferred sound profileHard to tell, I guess neutral ? Last pairs were Sony MDR R1 and Sennheiser Momentum. I liked these.Ideally, a closed pair that can function simply by hooking the jack to my phone without any kind of battery required. Also I like having a cable. And I don't like bluetooth BS.So far my research pointed me towards these :AKG 702 - heard good things about it but don't know if reaquires an ampMeze 99 Classic - but might be a case of "good looking but bad sounding"Sennheiser Momentum 3 - Just because I like the sound of the Momentum 2, but I'm afraid of the Wireless part.Sennheiser HD600 or 650 - heard good things but semi-open and maybe requires an amp idkWeeb reaction image for your thoughts please
>>81454270If you mean the "bicycle ring" then don't try to EQ it, it sound sharp and awful on everything. (I think it's 8-10k)
>>81454372K361 are really close to neutral and really easy to drive.
Ended up ordering some Superlux HD668B's, heard good things about them and they're cheap so figured what the hell. Was it a good purchase? A lot of people say you should get different pads as well but I'm not sure if I need to.
>>81454465good sound for the price but chink build quality and uncomfortable.
>>81454403Yeah it's that one. Some pop songs have it. I'll just play them on lower volumes I guess. Thank you!
>>81454417and built like garbage
>>81454372I have the K361's but don't really like them that much. They can't handle busy tracks, they have peaky treble and even $15 earphones beat them when it comes to detail, imaging and isolation.
>>81454372Austrian Audio Hi-X55
>>81454480This. They're pretty good sounding for $30 but aren't durable. EQ the trebles though.
>>81454551no wonder, it wasnt developed or manufactured by AKG
>>81454372what genre do you listen to?
>>81454584Basically, but then why do so many people shill it? From reviewers to /hpg/, I really don't get it. Same goes for K371 as it's the same driver but slightly different tuning and better housing.
>>81454603Imma hit hit you with the classic "a bit of everything", without a hint of pretentiousness.Rock, Post rock, art rock, blues, symphonic orchestra, rap, hip hop, pop, dreampop, electro, EDM...I guess that's why I'm looking for something neutral.Usually when testing out new headphones I use a few "measuring tunes"Waters of Nazareth - Justice for the bassReckoner - Radiohead for the high pitchesI Miss You - Björk for the voicesIt gives me a good idea of whether or not I like the sound signature.But I moved to a new town, and the electronics store don't have much to offer :/
>>81454465you will need pads
>>81454768I had a pair of K371s and I couldn't like them not just because of the driver, but how uncomfortable they were. They didn't seem to seal all that well with stock pads, they need constant readjustment (something I heard it's better on the K361s, not sure), the headband padding is thin as shit and normal replacement pads made clamping worse. I bought them for half price and returned them.
>>81454988I haven't had problems with comfort or adjusting on the K361, only clamping and my ears heating up after listening for a while. If the sound was fine I could live with that, too bad I don't find the sound worth it for the price given that I have earphones 1/4th the price that beat them hands down.
>>81454768Well because the build isn't that bad, I know I use k361 as a commuter headphone. And the peaky treble is normal for a lot of headphones and it doesn't bother majority of people.
>>81455085I will say that the build is alright, no problems there.>k361 as a commuter headphone.I tried this, but they have almost no isolation. This might be because I'm coming from Etymotics, but I couldn't use them anywhere with even medium background noise.
i fucked up my audio jack and it doesn't work correctly should I just install a soundcard and call it a day?
>>81455143Well I don't need full isolation, to many close calls so I want to hear when someone is trying to run over me.
>>81455160If it's a pc then why not use the front port or straight in to the mb (depends on what jack is fucked)?
are the sony mdrzx110s good enough for using on public transport? im not expecting super high quality but how good are they?
Pardon my autism but I'm really paranoid about caring for electrostatics, is this a good plan to keep the diaphragm as mint as possible?>store them in sealed anti-static/ESD bag when not in use>store them with desiccant packets, particularly in between the two earpads, to preserve earpad odor and absorb humidity>glue or tape a light acoustically transparent dust and moisture blocking mesh/material on the grills for further protectionIs there anything I'm missing? Is putting them in an anti-static bag a bad idea? I know that most e-stats have a internal dust cover but they don't have any out-of-the-box protection against humidity
>>81455212They're cheap pieces of crap that wont rape your ears at least
>>81455171Makes sense then, I only use them on the bus and take them off when I leave so for me isolation is the most important.
>>81455249Dude they're like $10 and from a decent name brand. About as good as youll get for that.>>81455212You could do worse, but I'd get something better and spend a little more.
>>81454768because their cult overlords told them tosame reason why people shill for philips or sony
>>81455187front port is fucked as well sound only comes out of the left phone
>>81455305>$10 = cheap pieces of crap>from a decent name brand = wont rape your ears at leastYou just repeated what he said...
>>81455305>decentthey sound like dogshit and are cheap plastic
>>81455320Then a sound card is the way to go, get a usb c apple dongle (usb c to usb if no usb c on pc) and an adapter for your headset to trrs, If you use a headset and all of that should be under 20-25$
I'm trying to choose a wireless IEM (I know, I know)-Jabra Elite 65t-Jaybird Vista-Beats FlexI'm considering the Flex for its apple device integration as I have an iphone but not much else. What should I choose among these or should I look elsewhere? Should I just go for Airpods? They seem very expensive.
>>81455775Airpods Pro (batteries not replaceable even by a professional so they will die), any of the Galaxy Buds except the beans, Sony WF1000XM3, or Lypertek Tevi.Jabra has QC issues just look up Jabra not working/broken or read the r/Jabra plebbit page. Jaybird Vista is just plain badly tuned and you can get much better for the price.
>>81455862Does it make any difference that the Jabra and the Jaybird are on sale for ~$70. That's the price range I'm pretty much working with.
Oratory1990 has new presets for the Sundara 2020 revised earpadsHe already had a preset for the revised earpads, and in my opinion the new preset sounds worse than the old one. The differences are minor overall but the tonality feels slightly wrong. The sad thing is he doesn't have the old preset anywhere anymore, he replaced it with the new one.Anyways here is the old preset he had for the 2020 revised earpads, incase anyone wants to use it instead of the one he published 3 days ago.
>>81455913Also I may have added the 2db peak filter at 28hz myself at some point, I don't remember for sure
>>81455906For 70$ I'd get the original Galaxy Buds, actually well tuned and easy to repair should the batteries ever die on you.
>>81456186the original galaxy buds suck
>>81456309Why and compared to what?
leather or cloth earpads?
Ok fell for the meme guys. Just bought some dt 770s, hooked it up with a similar priced amp, using flac audio, all configured etc. Completely don't give a shit about how different this sounds to my $15 earphones. I wasted like $270 on this shit ffs.
>>81456508I'm not into beyers, but you have to use a headphone consistently for at least a few days and then comparing to your old ones to be able to judge them properly. Your brain needs to get used (and there is always EQ to fix headphones).
>>81456508That's actually a good thing, this is your stopping point. Some retards spend thousands to get to this point.
>>81456508it takes like a month to notice the difference
>>81456508what was your previous headphone? Let me decide if you are retarded.
>>81456508IEMs are lower distortion and usually have a smoother response, don't listen to retards who say closed back headphones are worth buying.
>>81456508>bought beyer instead of sennheiser your fault.
>>81456567Literal generic $15 earphones like sony whatevers and once had a HyperX Cloud headset. That's my entire history.
>>81456597then you are obviously lying.
>>81456561What the hell, I can put the same headphone differently and it would sound differently.
>>81456547>>81456561Equally couldn't you say your brain needs to re-adapt to your old shitty $15 earphones and then they'll sound better if not the same again. I'm not getting anything of a transcendent listening experience I imagined. My imagination w/ a pair of cheap standard quality earphones does 90% of the work.
>>81454465They're awful if you have a large head. You'll also need new ear pads.
>>81456508>Completely don't give a shit about how different this sounds to my $15 earphonesSo what? Send them back and call it a day. Nobody gives a shit about your subjective impression of them.
I messed up my 3.5mm jack when cleaning it on my iphone, and since I didn’t want to buy a new one just yet I went out and got dongled to hear my podcasts at work.The sound is better/louder than the phone was by itself. Does this thing have a dac in it? If it does it’s a better dac than the phone itself? Isn’t it stupid to be selling dacs when the phone already has one?
>>81456632They'll sound more listenable over time, but not better because you'll know what to look for in comparison to better headphones. Bad headphones sound like all the instruments and voices merge into a giant blob.
>>81456724I'm just saying this entire general is a meme. Buying better than cheap standard earphones is only maxing out the experience by like 10-15% tops.
>>81456759There are good IEMs for like $20 that barely even need EQ but you swapped garbage for garbage and probably don't even know what you're looking for in a headphone.
>>81456777So the dt 770s are no better than cheap IEMS?
>>81456808The cheapest headphone I could find that was as good as IEMs for my music is LCD-2 classic. Might be different for your music - that's what I meant by "don't even know what you're looking for in a headphone".
>>81456436compared to $3 earphones
This entire general is a meme. I tried some HD800s at a store and my Beats sound 100 times better.
>>81456842I never get that point since I listen to practically every genre at times. Industrial, Electro, Rock, Jazz, Folk, Classical.
>>81456963Dude don't listen to them, you've won, every new headphone will be meh to you. Just stop and enjoy the music.
>>81457059Yeah music >>> headphones/thread
>>81456963Some genres need accurate instrument positioning, some genres need subbass, some genres need low distortion, etc. Then there's non-musical factors like plain convenience of wearing them. Buying headphones before trying them is a recipe for disappointment.
>>81456759You know not everyone here is a staxfag. There are objectively better headphones and they're WAY cheaper than some of the memes posted here.
Got the sennheiser 450 BT a while ago. They're good for traveling and all but I expected them to sound better when wired, but instead they sound exactly the same when either wired or bluetooth, or maybe wired IS better but it still sounds magnitudes worse than my other headphones so I'll probably won't be using them on the desktop. Remember to click like and subscribe and leave a comment.
>>81457352bluetooth headphones don't really sound better when wired, it's wired headphones without bluetooth that sound better because they don't have as many compromises during manufacturing to support bluetooth.
>>81457352>>81457462Bluetooth headphones usually sound WORSE when wired since they don't apply DSP to fix their shitty frequency response.
>>81457462>>81457482I see, don't even know where I got the idea that they might sound a bit better like that, probably a snake oil poster somewhere.They're still good company for my phone though, iPhones really must have the shittiest audio out there because whenever I tried proper headphones with them I was horrified to find how inferior the sound was on some tracks with the very same headphones I used on pc. As someone who always looked down on audiophiles, being able to notice the difference between headphones feels like slowly turning a monster I swore to fight.
>>81453127yeah, it sucked. for me the best is monitoring *and* open back headphones.
checked and their isnt a general for the other audio generals, so ill post here.ive been using the razer hammerheads lately as my bluetooth audio option, but i want to upgrade to something higher quality. one of my biggest issues with the hammerheads is that the sleeve that goes on the outside came off so easily that i eventually lost them, so now my hammerheads are quite uncomfortable to wear. im not even willing to consider some god awful option like airpods.anyone have any input on these? i thought about just taking a shot in the dark. budget is $200. as long as they sound good, ill be satisfied. i'd prefer some base if possible since these in ear options dont have much of it, but its not going to turn me off a purchase.take this anime picture as a thanks for reading my post.
>>81458689WH1000XM3 with EQ is endgame-tier
I'm forced into using SFX/MFX in EqualizerAPO to make it work with my motherboard. I would greatly appreciate if somebody could tell me what the difference is between LFX/GFX and SFX/MFXI wish the recommended method worked but it didn't and I have no idea why. Motherboard has realtek audio.
>>81458781Do you have any sound related OEM niggerware installed? A lot of audio drivers come with stupid audio shit that may conflict with EQ APO.
>>81458803The only thing that I have installed that was installed automatically is the windows realtek app "Realtek Audio Console"
>>81447360bros will a 230-240v power supply have problems with my amp if it previously used a 220-230v? all other specifications are correct and I can't find anything else.
>>81459051no, since its probably rated up to 240v
>>81456727>Does this thing have a dac in it?yes, that's exactly what it is. an external DAC + amplifier>If it does it’s a better dac than the phone itself?yes, because its not limited as much by other components and specifications >Isn’t it stupid to be selling dacs when the phone already has one?that's why they stopped putting a DAC in their newer phonescongratulations, you just find out why apple removed the headphone jack
>>81447387>>81447402>a phone mic and a cardboard somehow are comparable to a human earjesus christ just kys already
>>81458730ill probably buy those within the next few days due to your suggestion, but im mainly looking for something like pic related. its nice having that full over the ear setup, but im trying to buy something that i can wear while driving without the cops getting all uppity.
>>81459836Why can’t they do those without the fag shaft
>>81459883i dont know. i got my set for a really good price because my local gamestop was closing, and a friend who worked there told me about the deal. the uncomfortable fit without that outer piece that comes off really easy is enough that im considering just buying another set.
>>81459883They can, he's just posting random shit.>>81459836If you're looking for bluetooth IEMs galaxy buds(all except Live) and lypertek tevi are the only decent choices.
>>81459921Those are in ear the ones he posted are ear buds
>>81460032Earbuds should be illegal.
>>81459329Noice. Was hoping there would be some leeway. Thanks m8
>>81460038So should yo mammas fat ass begging to be fucked but that ain’t happening
>>81459921alright, did some looking and im probably going to pick a set of these uphttps://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wireless-improved-Charging-included/dp/B083KVM9VWif you think they are shit, let me know. i specifically avoided the live version, as per your advice.
>>81460068These are good. A bit brighter than original buds but it could work for your music.
>>81459883They can, but it's a better idea to leave them on if you're doing touch controls, that way you can grab the buds without fucking with the volume or whatever.
Reminder to clean your ears with peroxide.
>>81460099im not exactly sure what "a bit brighter" means in this context, but i appreciate all the help you provided. here, ill provide another anime girl image as thanks.another question though, i saw some people in the reviews for the WH1000XM3 complaining about it not working well with laptops or desktops. is that reviewer just a retard or do they not work well with computers? ive never actually heard this being the case for other products, which is mainly why i ask.
>>81460192Brighter means stuff like vocals is more pronounced. Bluetooth audio on PC is trash in general: you can't even choose what codec to use(aptx at best but it's still terrible) and the audio itself could stutter. Or it may not stutter but could stutter after an update.
>>81460170>Needing to clean your ears everI use Etymotics almost exclusively and rarely have more than a tiny bit of earwax on them, since earwax is secreted near the outside of the ear canal this isn't because I clogged my ear canals but just because I have lucky genetics.
Huh, Thomann.de has retired all HiFiMAN products from their store.Also, are the Sundaras good enough for mixing and mastering?
>>81460319Trust me, there may be little earwax outside but enough of it inside to even affect how you hear the music. Even if you aren't using IEMs. Not with q-tips - with peroxide.
>>81460369Ok, I'll try it some time. Perhaps I'm losing out, even if it's a little bit.
>>81460315that makes sense. honestly i was just opting for bluetooth because i unintentionally yank the hell out of every wire i use on my computer, and if i do go wired, i have to run it through a usb sound card because there's some stupid shit with my motherboard where it will make popping noises every few minutes. couldnt ever actually find the source of the issue.
>>81460546*yank the hell out of every wired headset ive used with my computerstill not exactly sure what causes the popping issue when im directly wired to my motherboard. its been at least a year since ive hooked something up to it, and ive moved the room my computer was in so maybe it isnt happening anymore.
>>81460546>there's some stupid shit with my motherboard where it will make popping noises every few minutesIf you think that's bad my headphones used to electrocute me. That's exactly why external DACs are a thing.
>>81460613i may have to look into getting a set of headphones with one of those then. i used to really like hyperx for headsets, but:- the newer cloud models hurt my ears after up to a few minutes of being worn- the alphas are fantastic, but the detachable cable pisses me off so much that any positives about them are immediately negated- the fit on the flights is shit and its just their cheapest headset, but made wireless and ~100-120 dollars more expensiveive been using the steelseries arctis 1 wireless, but i want to upgrade sometime to something with a bit more depth to the sound. they work great for the price, but i'm really curious about the uncharted waters that include high quality sound.
I'm a total noob when it comes to headphones. If I plug a pair of $50 headphones with a 3.5mm jack into an audio receiver with an adapter would it sound better than if I plug it into the pc with the 3.5? They're not high powered and work on the pc I'm just wondering what difference it would make if any.
>>81460965No, if you have a modern pc and modern receiver, they will sound the same quality wise. May be the receiver will be a bit louder.
>>81447360Asking in every thread I can because I'm desperate.I have a Zishan z3 that I have been using as a dac lately but every time, I have to go to settings and check the dac mode and reset the device. I have to reset it every time because it looks like it looses the config. Can a zishan anon help?
I got a headphone amp but it only works in the Headphone 3.5 not the l out. Is this intended? want to have speakers plugged in 3.5 with RCAs to the amp but now i have to do the reserve and now my headphone amp is amplifying speakers when i unplug headphones and i dont think youre suppose to do that.
>>81462207im retarded. i can just use two different 3.5 jacks and switch with windows
>>81459921What's wrong with the live ones?
>>81460613electrocute means it succeeded at killing you, but that was probably static electricity.
>>81462399There is no industry standard rig to measure earbuds so not even their creators know what they're supposed to sound like. Very poor audio quality.
>>81454130i didnt know they were removable desu. thanks for info>>81454147i might as well anon. thanks
to the l700mk2 anon. did they arrive yet?
>>81448088i keep seeing that the dt 880 600 ohm is the best Beyerdynamic because it uses a driver that weighs less. Is that true?
>>81462782Where did you hear that? lol
>>81462782no, its because its the most neutral, at least for a beyer
>>81462812i saw when i browsed reddit headphones
>>81462782The best beyerdynamic is t70.
>Sennheiser HD650 for 300€>Sennheiser HD660 for 400€Which one should I go for?
At long last, the DT770V pads arrived for my Superlux HD330s. Ultra comfy and look pretty nice. But sound is boomy cuppy and hollow, however I dislike the stock sound with any pads.With EQ tho, I like these A LOT. I got them sounding very clear and there's plenty headroom to play with bass. Treble actually sounds very very good, compared to other luxes anyway.I just can't stand the HD681s now no matter what I do to them, the treble just sounds so awfully cheap. I have absolutely zero clue what's up with that.Im gonna finally say it, if you're buying Superluxes, buy the HD330s with DT770V pads. Not only do I think the sound is superior, they're also built more sturdy.
Grados Hemp or Argons?Need something for everything but classical and jazz that pairs well with Sundaras
Me and my dad compared his Sony XM3 to my Sundara todayHis Sony have a lot more bass impact, even with a +5db bass shelf (Harman) the Sundaras don't punch even near as hard as the Sonys do. It felt like being kicked to the chest on them.But everything else was night and day. All the lower mids were muddled on the Sony and the instrument separation was really bad by comparison. My brother tried the Sundara and he immediately spotted the instrument separation issue, and then my mom tried them (she's a normie) and she thought the Sony had more bass but the Sundara sounded real, like the singer was really there.
>>81463226You can go way harder than +5dB with the bass shelf is your amp can follow though. The oratory guy recommends anything from +5-+12dB or do depending on preference iirc. They just eq that well. I have eq presets for 7-12dB for different music myself
>>81462975Probably 650, i have 650, 550, 560 and so on 650 slightly clearer sound but not much. Also sennheisers lack bass cause they are open not the optimal for rock or heavy music
>>81462975I have an irresistible urge to punch that pig in the stomach. Just imagine how surprised and scared it would be in that split second. Lil cunt
>>81463226well yeah the wh1000xm3 isnt going to sound as competent as most headphones but i still love it because of its incompetencies.
>>81453340that dongle thing on superlux headsets is its achilles heel. Amazing sound quality for the price but the build quality on them is ass due to that dongle
Best noise canceling headphones under 100?
>>81463791Anker 30 or something
whats the best set of headphones i can get for 300 bucks for using on my PC? i dont want something open
>>81463800theres no point in spending more than €150 on closed back headphones unless you have specific needs
>>81463800get an iem they destroy closeback headphones desu
thoughts on the edifier h880?the left speaker on my h850 is coming apart after 3~ years of use and was thinking of getting a new one
>>81462782I doubt the driver weighs any less but it is the best.>>81462923No it isn't. The best Beyerdynamic is the DT880 600 ohm headphone. It even dominates their own flagship.
>>81463933 if it only lasts 3 years, why would you want to but anotherstop buying consumer garbage
>>81449718I have the pic rel DT770 300 ohm. No way in hell you are going to be able to power it from onboard audio.
>>81463916are the new features on the XM4 good enough to justify getting them over the XM3's, or should i just stick with the XM3's?
>>81464030get neither and buy a good pair of isolating wired headphones
>>81464030just stick with xm3
>>81447360Thoughts on the Fosto FT58 headphones? They're Chinese Amazon brand I think
i know it might be taboo to say this but i think utopia BTFOs hd800s and majority of headphones. just sounds so good. i know this headphone is considered a meme but honestly can't think of another headphone that sounds as "dynamic" as the utopia. it is also a very good portable headphone. best portable headphone ive heard. i regularly use it on my phone and it just blows away any other iem or headphones ive tried on the phone.
>>81464079>buy a good pair of isolating wired headphonessuch as?>>81464161https://www.4chan-x.net/you need this extension for browsing this site. major quality of life
>>81464293>you need this extension for browsing this site. major quality of lifethank ill check it out :)!!!
>>81464143trash chinkfi. a lot better options available
>>81447360>LocationUSA/Use for home>Budget$100 - $250>Open or closedClosed>Over-ear or on-earOver-ear>Intended use/musicListening/some music production, vidya>Preferred sound profileNeutral or slight bass
Recently my DT880's finally broke after many years. I enjoyed their sound as i like a neutral sound but there were a few differences I'd like on my next pair of headphones, mainly for my next set I want the cable to be detachable because my DT880's cable started getting stiff and splitting so a detachable cable would be easier to replace and I think I would like to try closed headphones this time. Ideally I don't want something with inferior sound though, I want it to sound similar or better then my DT880's.From what I seen a highly recommend headphone that matches my requirements is the AKG K371. Is this a good choice? I don't really want to spend too much more then DT880's cost.
>>81455913what program is this again? i had it at some point but forgot the name
>>81465218peter's equalizer apo i think
>>81448088Still waiting for my Asgard 3 to amp up the beast of a headphone known as the Beyerdynamic DT880 600 ohm version!
>>81465513gz man enjoy experiencing the best dynamic headphone on planet earth.
which one brosI'm not a millionairecurrently use the M50x
>>81465868Dt 880 should decimate the other two
What does EQ stand for?
My Yaxi Pads came with some weird brownish looking "stain". Should I be worried? They are new and I have no idea what this blemish is supposed to be.
>>81466055It's on both pads.
>>81466031i think equalization
>LocationUS>Budget$150-200>Open or closedclosed>Over-ear or on-earover>Intended use/musicCasual listening >Preferred sound profileWarmComfort would be a big plus
>>81465868HD6XX if you want a reliable relaxed headphone.
Has anyone ordered Stax from staxaudio.com? It's Woo Audio's STAX store. I was just wondering how long shipping took and if the store was kind of dead or if it was responsive.
>>81466150i ordered my 2nd sr007mk2 from staxaudio. it took about a week for it to arrive
>>81466150i didnt contact the store at all so idk if they are responsive
is there somewhere I can go to try amps with my headphones
>>81466604with amazon you should be able to buy and return shit with no penalty. at least until a certain point. idk what amp you are looking for tho. amazon doesn't have every amp available.
Zoomer here.Is it stupid wanting to buy physical music in 2021?I was thinking of starting to buy some CDs, maybe ripping them into FLAC with EAC
>>81466704not stupid at all.
>>81466704Nope. It’s more entertaining than digital imo
> LocationPhilippines> BudgetUnder $100>Open or closedClosed>Over-ear or on-earOver-ear>Intended use/musicPC / Phone, All types of music, Phone Calls, no AmpCurrently using the Grado SR80e and I want something more comfortable with a closed back. I'm looking at the Takstar Pro 82.
Sennheiser HD 558s used on eBay for $60, working condition. Should I cop?
>>81456597You might just have bad ears my friend. Beyers absolutely sound better than cheapo Sony's and gaymer headsets
I got a pair of these bad boys, but I seem to be having an issue with them. No matter how tight I set them to be on my head, if I lean back and look upward at all they slide backwards completely off my head and go to the floor. How the hell do I fix this and make them stay the fuck put?
>>81453418Right now I'm commited to hunting vintage units after discovering that a DAC made in the 1995 absolutely brutalized my much newer Topping D50.
>>81464161Yeah, the Utopia are really special. I knew the moment I heard them for the first time that they were quite a bit better than my L700 MK2 and I definitely prefer the way they are tuned compared to the SR-007 or SR-009. They are just so balanced sounding with minimal sins of omissions.
>>81466055>>81466073its an artifacf from the extrusion, you should be fine
Just got my dt770. I thought the vocal would be recessed since it have a v shape signature but it's still sound clear as my neutral 598cs. I really should have bought the dt770 from the start.I thought neutral was the way to go since it's accurate reproduced the music and I like the mid for the vocal. But the dt770 v shape sound just as good with more bass.
I can differentiate 320 and flac, I'm 18 and hear up to 19khz. Need something that really makes the high ends shine.
>>81468727>I can differentiate 320 and flaceveryone can, even people with severe hearing damage
>>81468727>>81468998Post results. http://abx.digitalfeed.net/lame.320.html
Suede pads are fucking incredible, try them.
>first recabling ever, fucked up the heatshrink placement by covering the jack's outer shell as well>all it took was not noticing once, and pulling by the cable itself instead of the jack to break the wireOh well, live and learn. Back to the soldering station it is
>>81470015>his cables aren't replaceable
anyone have know of a good way to open JBL Free X headphones? I need to replace something on the inside.
>>81470274Thanks, the seam in his headphone is a lot wider than mine, I can barely fit a piece of paper inside it
>>81470015cant wait for you to end it all
>>81465868Meze 99 Neo if you are into lots of base and want something portable.
>>81467706You should be able to bend that metal band a bit if it goes all the way through the headband.
Are these good? They look good. Was thinking about getting this or the Fiio K5 PRO
>>81470167these are disposable, you can'tonly third worlders would attempt a repair
>>81471522>$200>dispoableZoomers really are the most retarded generation.
>>81471753you're the retard here for buying overpriced consumer trash, instead of simple, durable and easy to repair headphones
Hey faggots is the Fiio K5 Pro compatible with Windows 7 64 bit?
>>81471488>>81471790yes its compatiblebut don't, just buy JDS Atom or Pro-Ject Head Box
>>81462901The voice coil is thinner, but i never heard, that they're lighter in any way. That wouldn't even make any sense.
>>81471811Why not? a JDS Atom stack is double the price(even a little more due to tax and shipping) also I don't need 600 ohms, I only need at most 300 ohms to power up my HD600
>>81471857you don't need a DAC anon, just an amplifier
>>81471790Ok I downloaded the driver from 2019 and it still doesn't detect it. Maybe it's the USB cable.
>>81471811>Pro-Ject Head BoxWhat is this flavor of the month bullshit?
>>81467909>tfw my TDA1541S1 just made static noises when I put it in the black box I bought for itNow I'm looking at PCM1794/PCM1704/PCM63 balanced DIY kits on Ebay and Aliexpress.
>>81472085its just the euro equivalent
>>81464776Yep, they're great
there's a special promo by my local shop on m40x for 99bnd (75USD ~), is it a good headphone for the price?
>>81471790Yep this brick doesn't work even after I changed the cable, should have known considering they're repackaged. I have 2 weeks to try to get it to work, after 2 weeks I can't return it anymore, but I'm wasting my time. My motherboard doesn't have s/pdif to bother using the other connection.
>>81453924Never had any QC issues with the sony's. My friend had that rare case and returned them , got a great unit back.
>>81454555Can you elaborate how these are ? Esp how the bass response is, I am looking into these or the Fostex t40's
>>81469040My limit seems to be telling the difference between 256 and 320. Not 320 and flac tho unless the flac version has better mastering.
>>81472211Eh, it's missing the 3.5 input so not really equivalent.
>>81466600I ordered l700 mk2 about a week ago. Emailed and got a response next day. They said it's on the way and I should get it first week of June. They seem good.
>>81473403use an adapter you troglodyte
>>81471811>Pro-Ject Head BoxWhich one?
>>81473933the normal version, i think its called the S2
>>81473914It's not about adapters you dumbass. It's about having more inputs that I can change with a switch.
>>81473966why would you want that?unless they have different output impedance, it is completely redundant
>>81467994Yeah, it sound like HD600
>>81473986One input for my external dac (e10k right now) and the other to connect a turntable.
>>81474080I want to start collecting some of my favorite albums in vinyl, since there's no point in getting CDs when flac exists.
>>81474110there's no point in getting vinyl when flac exists
>>81452188based focal user.
>>81455320Or you could just get a cheap usb amp/dac that sits on your desk and not bother putting in a soundcard.
>>81464293>you need this extension for browsing this site. major quality of lifeWhat does it do excatly just out of curiousity.
>>81474054B-but Utopia is a little bit better
>>81474054oh, do they? i've been wanting for a while to get something that sounds as close as possible to HD600s but with nicer materials. should i look at the utopias for that?
>>81474584Try them out if possible because you'll be paying through the ass for one.Don't be that guy who drop $4k on a pair of headphones only to hate how it sounds
>>81457352I put mine wired through a sabre DAC and the sound opened up quiet a bit. The stock cable is complete shit and any chinese aftermarket cable will be much better.
>>81474626that's a good point. i really wish sennheiser could just give me a $600-800 tarted-up version of the HD600s with less cost compromises on the materials.
>>81458730Still sucks with detail and resolution, but the ANC and portability is comfy. Is the battery user replaceable on them ?
>>81447360I bought Koss Porta pros just to test them out because they seem to have a following, I can't tell the difference between my gaymer headset, the HyperX 2s.
>>81474445it adds a lot of quality of life that you are only going to be able to understand from using it. if you think its a virus or something, go use it in a virtual machine.
>>81460339They have qc control issues anon. Meze's are ok for mixing except for the elevated bass.
>>81474273Im a big fan of focals myself
>>81474584high tech carbon version?
>>81474870getting closer. i can't find any for sale, nor any measurements to suggest they are substantially identical to HD600s (though i suspect they are) but that's exactly the kind of thing i have in mind.
>>81474054>Utopia>like HD600as if hd600 had bass kek
>>81447360What is the benefit of a balanced cable?Would my ATH M50x benefit from one?
>>81448088>>81463961So I have a pair of 600 ohm 880s I bought on a whim, and have been driving them through a Adcom GTP 500 II preamp (has a dedicated 600 ohm headphone channel). How much will I benefit from getting a different preamp?
what're the most comfortable headphones?both my K701 and my portaPro get uncomfortable after a few hours if I wear them with glasses.
Does window sample rate and bit depth matter? I can't hear a difference between my Sundaras and el cheapo ATHs. Fiio 3k is the dac, ATHs are undaced
>>81476603>sample rateBest case - no effect, worst case - degraded sound quality due to IMD from unfiltered ultrasonics. I've actually discovered one use case for higher sampling rates today - you can reduce FIR EQ latency. Useless/harmless otherwise.>bit depthLower theoretical noise floor but no device in existence can actually provide 24 bit dynamic range. If you hear no difference that means no hidden DSP is degrading your audio. With DSP + digital volume control you could actually lose a couple of bits of precision and the noise floor would become audible.
Recently bough vmoda crossfade 2 codex wireless.The bluetooth sound constantly emits a hissing while audio plays.Is this just a bad product or is it faulty?
>>81476738Garbage amp, like 99% of bluetooth devices have. Not faulty, just defective by design.
>>81476763Oh, well at least it's not my fault.Might be a little more than this general, but could I mod it and put in a proper amp? Obviously voids warranty and all that, but feasible?
>>81476848The kind of amp you could realistically diy is bigger than your entire headphones.
>>81476848just return it under the cooldown period
>>81474676>>81474626>hate how it soundsEQ can fix this to some degree. Another benefit for trying out a headphone is comfort. Some headphones like the Audezes or the Heddphone are heavy as fuck for me while someone who used to wear steel helmets in the army won't even notice the weight.
>>81474852How do you like the clear?I'm in the market for high end headphones and i could get anything between a DT1990 to an LCD4, but I'm gravitating towards the Clear. Maybe the new MG version, but the final run of the original is only $990 so might be a good value - if you can even talk about 1k headphones as 'value.' Hopefully can try a few cans out over the weekend. Pairing with an element ii dac/amp and looking for something that doesn't look like complete shit (HEDDPHONES, SR1a, etc).
>>81476901I'm using a clear professional (no difference in sound except you get different cables and an extra set of earpads) and I like them so far.
>>81476675I guess my ears just suck then, cheap taste and all
>>81476933But I just explained how it means you have everything working correctly...
>>81476881>>81476882Well, obviously not what I want to hear, but that's life I guess. Thanks for the help.
New thread: >>81477025
How good or bad are these kind of headphone anon?https://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-EX15LP-BLACK-Headphones-Tangle-Silicone/dp/B076MHX9YRI do not understand a shit about headphone and also my economy can't let me spend $600+ in one.Thanks you in advance.
>>81476931Amp? What did you use before and how do the clears compare? I've heard some people describe the clears as 'clinical' but I'm not an audiophile so not sure what that even means. Thanks anon.
>>81476976There's an anon that has sony xm3 here, ask him whether it hisses. Otherwise you can try replicating my setup: some headphones with replaceable cable, short cable from aliexpress and qudelix 5k(optionally fiio btr5). This has no hiss whatsoever.
>>81477042Not sure about that specific one, but IEMs are great for blocking out outside sound so I like them for the gym, work, and public transit. They also don't look flashy so you probably won't get mugged for them. If you're a poorfag, Koss makes some cheap non-IEM headphones like the porta pros, kph30, and ksc75 that people seem to love. Can't compare sound since the last time i heard music through a porta pro was when I had a walkman.
>>81477126using porta pros right nowtheyre alright, great value for money
>>81477048>amptopping dx3 proI used a HD650 for years and years before deciding to upgrade. Clinical means accurate but less "fun" I think.
>>81477042They died on me after a month of use.