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>NEWS
Substrate shortage to affect all foundries

>UPGRADE ADVICE
Post complete specs including monitor

>BUILD ADVICE
State budget, region, and monitor specs
List use cases (e.g. gaming, editing, rendering)
Assemble a preliminary parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
HTPC/Web Browsing: Athlon 3000G
Mid-range Multicore: i7 10700K, R7 3700X
High-end Multicore: R9 5900X, R9 5950X, i9 10850K
Budget Gaming: i3 10100/F
Mid-range Gaming: i5 10400/F, i5 11400
High-end Gaming: R5 5600X, i5 11600K (Gear 1)

>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVEL
Budget 1080p: Used RX 470/570 4GB
Mid-range 1080p: RTX 2060, RX 5600 XT
High-end 1080p : RTX 3060, RX 5700 XT
Mid-range 1440p: RTX 3060 Ti, RX 6700 XT
High-end 1440p/2160p: RTX 3080

>RECOMMENDED RAM
Capacity: 2x8GB or 2x16GB
Speed and CAS Latency: 3200/3600MHz CL16
Beware: Some Intel motherboards (e.g. H410, B460) are limited to lower speeds

>RECOMMENDED COOLERS
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
Basic Web Browsing: 400-450W
Gaming: 500-850W depending on GPU (aim for 50-75% at load)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
OS Drive: NVMe with TLC NAND + DRAM cache
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/

>MOTHERBOARD INFO:
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=RzdbjX

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Anyone used the cheap optanes as dedicated pagefiles? You can get $10 16GB optanes as alternative to buying expensive DRAM.

Vs using regular SSD.
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>>81444922
>they're sure hard to come by aren't they?
Yeah they sure are, I've been trying (half heartedly) to get an MSRP 3070 since launch. My high refresh 1440p system would love it

>cultist simulator
If there's one thing really holding you back, no real shame in looking that specific thing up. E.g., I couldn't figure out how to get Contentment, so Despair killed me on a couple early runs. Looked that up specifically and it really opened up the game for me.

If you want to recreate that writing style, you probably just need to read a LOT more occult lit
https://mega.nz/folder/jlEwhYyJ#iK4mVC4y5iwk_cr3eIpX4g
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Thinking about buying the RX 6900 XT Strix Liquidcooled one and was wondering.
Can I put the rad infront of my meshify C TG case which has already fans infront for a pull and push config or will that not work?
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>>81445097
Can you even use them like a m.2 nvme drive? For example on ryzen?

From what little I think I understand, only some intel chips contain an IP block for operating an optane module which is why not every intel chip claims optane support.
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I can't seem to get any higher than 70 frames in Fallout 76 even with 2k resolution and a 3090 and a 5900x. What's going on here?
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>>81445399
Run hardware monitoring with MSI Afterburner + Riva Tuner and see whether the GPU is fully utilized
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>>81445399
3090 is trash for 2k resolution because of driver overhead, but the resident eternally seething mass replied goes "nvidia dindu nuffins despite the fact that it only affects their trash cards.
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>>81445399
>3090
>2k resolution
Another gullible anon who fell for nshitia marketing. Their cards are seriously fucked for lower resolutions because of their driver overhead problem, which only happens on nvidia, but seething room temperature fanboys will always shift blame to anything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLEIJhunaW8
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reminder 6900xt is actually a good card along with the 6800xt 6800 and 6700xt and all should be considered along with the games you play
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>>81445608
You were already owned here >>81444448 >>81444513. Pretty sure Fallout 76 is DX11, where Radeon has worse driver overhead
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hello gamers
>A320M
>Ryzen 5 2400g
>16 gb RAM DDR4 2666 mhz
>RX Vega 11 within Ryzen
r8 my poorf*g build /g/
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>>81445873
Can do some gaming / 10.
Going to get an ssd?

What's the price difference of slightly better ram?
eg: 3000mhz+ 10ns latency.
igpus like memory bandwidth.
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just realized i ordered an nas hdd, will it work in a non nas system?
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>>81445955
Yes. I have two of them in my PC
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>>81445951
yes there will be a smoll ssd, 120 gb, i have never needed more than 80 gb except when i wanted to create a local mirror, hoping that i won't need more after chia joggers takes over the market. i will see with the happy merchant if he can provide better ram though, thanks for the advice
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>>81445873
>16 gb
2 x 8gb for that dual channel goodness.
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>>81446266
it might get a little pricey (might be 25 dolla difference but that stings quite a bit in the turd world), i might buy one 3000mhz 16 gb stick now and then add another later down the road
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>>81446413
I can't figure out how overpriced things are at your end.
Could you post the prices for the following.
>cheapest 2 x 8 gb kit - any speed
>cheapest 2 x 8 gb kit - 3000mhz or faster
>cheapest 2 x 16 gb kit - any speed
>cheapest 2 x 16 gb kit - 3000mhz or faster
>cheapest single 16 gb stick - any speed
>cheapest single 16 gb stick - 3000mhz or faster
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>>81445221
Of you use as optane cache it requires intel support. Otherwise, afaik it's a standard nvmd ssd
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>>81445760
>muh dx11
Go back to 2011 and seethe some more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD6-Y2a1XbE
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>>81445751
Tell that to the permanently seething mass-replying coping nshitia fanboy who seethed so hard he removed 6800xt for 1440p.
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>>81445041
I've built an old computer for the intention of running mid 90's-2006 games. It's been great, but the onboard audio drivers for xp are horribly laggy. I don't know if they're shit drivers, or xp. My question is, what were some popular soundcards during this time with good drivers?
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>>81445873
Shell out some more for a 3400G (or just wait™ for 5300G) and 2x8 gb 3200 ram
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>>81446984
Braindead, you literally just responded to someone playing a DX11 game that Nvidia's driver overhead is the problem when Radeon has more overhead in DX11. This is why you're called AMDummies. Lowest of the Low IQ, which makes sense because you're also usually poorfags

>>81447051
>he removed 6800xt for 1440p
I didn't though, I removed it for 4K. A drone tried to sneak the 6800 XT in the 4K category by including 1440p, not going to work
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>>81447115
The big names the era were
Sound Blaster 16
Sound Blaster AWE32
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Get a cheap external usb $2 audio setup from eBay.
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>>81445041
>I bought (…) for $3000
>with your money, dad
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Brainlet here, I have no parts other than a Ryzen 5 3600, what parts should I get? My setup is so old theres nothing worth reusing except the RAM sticks maybe
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>>81447537
What are you doing for the gpu?
If you pretty much need to buy everything then your best option is to buy a prebuilt.
That way you won't pay scalper prices.
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>>81447600
For the GPU I’m gonna try to find something for gaming (1080p) but other than that I’m trying to find anything that I can buy without taking too long or getting ripped off, prebuilt is probably out of the question since I already have a CPU
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Building a mixed workstation/gaming rig. Want an M.2 for my boot drive. Looking at the WD 850, should I get the 1tb or 2tb version? I intend to put the OS and commonly used software on it.
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>>81447716
>WD 850
Don't think it makes a difference in terms of performance.
See review.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd-black-sn850-m-2-nvme-ssd-review
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>>81446568
haven't really checked which ones are legit so im giving you a range of what i have seen
>>cheapest 2 x 8 gb kit - any speed
R$ 400,00 - R$ 500,00
>>cheapest 2 x 8 gb kit - 3000mhz or faster
R$ 520,00 - R$ 709,00 (3200 mhz)
>>cheapest 2 x 16 gb kit - any speed
R$ 899,00 - R$ 1120,00
>>cheapest 2 x 16 gb kit - 3000mhz or faster
R$ 1491,00 - R$ 1590,00 (3200 mhz)
>>cheapest single 16 gb stick - any speed
R$ 449,00 - R$ 500,00
>>cheapest single 16 gb stick - 3000mhz or faster
R$ 543,00 - R$ 799,00 (3200 mhz)
>>81447177
thought about it, but the extra R$ 600,00 (that is around 110 dolla) just gives 2-3 extra frames on any vidya, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Bx9thyL_A
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I've heard that Ryzen doesn't play nicely with Corsair RAM sticks, is that true? Should I just stick to Gskill?
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>>81447260
You're fucking retarded, even if the game is dx11 it won't change the fact that 3090 is really awful for 2k gaming, your fanboy feelings are irrelevant, seethe forever.
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>i totally didn't remove 6800xt from 1440p bro!
Nvidia fanboy has alzheimer's too.
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>>81447264
Too old for xp era, I use dosbox and other emulators when it comes to games before xp.
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>rocket lake total shitshow
Will alder lake save intel?
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>>81447789
>2 x 8 gb kit -vs- single 16 gb stick
They cost about the same.
2 x 8 gb is the better buy and will give you twice the performance.

>R$ 400 2 x 8 gb 2666mhz ?
>R$ 520 2 x 8 gb 3000mhz
>R$ 709 2 x 8 gb 3200mhz
The 3200mhz looks too expensive.
I'd go for the 3000mhz if it's within budget.
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I'm about to trade my Gigabyte Radeon 5700 xt for a Sapphire 6700 xt

What could go wrong?
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>>81439069
OP pastes used to consistently say "plan your build around your monitor/display".
I personally believe that it is extremely sound advice, and that failure to remember this during planning builds or future upgrades, is a big part of why people are feeling regret over their new GPUs.
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>>81448250
you could die tomorrow
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Got all my parts but the GPU, comes next week.
I was going to build it now and then just plop the GPU in when I get it, this is my first time building a PC any tips?
Like is there a best order to do this or anything? I'm using an air cooler so I think I need to put my M2 in first right?
Do I build outside of the case or inside of it?
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>>81448356
>regret over their new GPUs
I think the regret is more general than that,
and I think the picture in OP captures some of that sense.
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>>81448356
I disagree completely.
Plan around what monitor you eventually will want to get, not what you have right now.
The later will just make you waste shitloads more money as you will inevitably bottleneck yourself and have to do an almost fully new build when you get your new monitor.
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>>81445041
this image hits close to home
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Ye thanks for OP image. It's partly that you get that awesome system together, then realise there are very few games worth playing on it that you couldn't play on a system that cost half the price. Ok so you'd have to turn down graphics settings, but even then you could probably get more out of learning dwarf fortress than the latest AAA+ ZOMG graphics showroom games
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My uncle bought this apparently without realizing how big it was, so he asked me if I wanted it
I usually don’t turn down anything free, so I loaded it up and am now staring at it
Worth slapping components in it and making something or utter junk? Anyone familiar with this brand or even this particular Tower?
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Is there an easy way to choose a mobo? Why are there so many?
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>>81448562
Holy crap. You could make a very nice watercool build in there, but fuck it. Stick an air cooled mini atx in there and call it the coffin
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>>81448563
Figure out your price range. Autistically spend 2 weeks reviewing specs and user complaints about options in that range. Finally decide to buy one. Find there are only 2 of the boards that you ever researched available in your reach. Get the cheapest one because reasons. Eternally wonder if you should have got the other one.
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who would actively buy amd?
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>>81445041
>build cutting edge pc
>tfw realize how shit the gaming industry is
>$3k pc for stuff i can do on a 2009 shitbox
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>>81448625
mine was $9k at least
hahahahaha
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>>81448618
who would actively buy anything ever?
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Is this going to run on a 650 w power supply?

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12g-gddr6
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>>81448876
Just about yes, but the fan in the PSU will add to the screaming
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>>81445041
My new build just failed
> 600w Gamer Evga 80
>Hyperx Hx432c16fb3a/8 (2 sticks)
> Asrock B450m Steel Legend Am4
>Ryzen 7 3700x
>Cheap GT1030 for testing
POSTed correctly,
entered bios
suddenly blank screen
I moved everything into an Amd Prime A320m-k
Still nothing
I have no other AMD processor to validate ram sticks, whats the probability of being both ram sticks and not the processor ?
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>>81448976
Use 1 stick?
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>>81448994
>Use 1 stick?
already try them individually
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>>81448976
>Asrock B450m Steel Legend
Needs bios P2.10 or later to support Ryzen 7 3700x
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>>81449026
>Needs bios P2.10 or later to support Ryzen 7 3700x
I was able to enter into the UEFI the first run, even the processor model and 16Gb for ram was displayed then got blank screen.
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>>81448572
Yea it’s meant for water cooling
I actually have a business idea I’ve been working on, thinking about using this as my main server case but I’m not even sure if it would be a good way to use it
I hadn’t gotten to the hardware part of the planning yet but like I said, I don’t usually turn down free stuff
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>>81449086
Well it's thermaltake which isn't a bad case manufacturer at all, probably cost a fair bit. If you've got the space for it, may as well use it
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cQvQQD
Looking for advice on my in progress build for gaming and some editing, 1440/144hz monitor. Will add a pcie gen4 m2 drive once cheaper.
Is it worth it to get a 750W psu since its only $10 more than the 650W?
Main thing I need the help with is the motherboard, I have 4x8GB 3600 CL16, and I remember some anons saying you need a board with a good mem controller. Any advice on a good B550 for that, or is the one I selected fine? Thanks /g/entlemen
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>>81449199
Usually you want to aim for your PSU to be at around 60% capacity under full load. Add up your CPU/GPU loads, add a bit for motherboard/drives/fans. See where that leaves you.
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>>81448563
>what mobo
- Something that won't over heat when you use your processor.
Processors with more cores and/or that run at higher frequencies draw more power.

Watch mobo reviews by Hardware Unboxed to see how mobo performs.

- Something that you can plug everything into.
Enough SATA ports for your drives.
Enough PCIE slots for your cards. GPU, HDMI capture card, etc.
Enough USB ports. Keyboard, mouse, game controller, usb drive of games/videos/porn, thumb drive, webcam, etc.
Video out ports if you're getting a processor with integrated graphics.

Basically make sure that the mobo has the features you need.
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>>81448976
Unplug storage and do a cmos reset.
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>>81449228
Yeah I might as well get the 750W, thanks
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>>81449267
>do a cmos reset.
I did it
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Back for my seasonal visit to ask if the market has gotten any better at all or if it's even worse than last time
I feel like I know the answer but I have to ask anyway
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>Minimum 650 Watt Power Supply
Am I risking anything by having exactly the minimum?
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>>81449590
No, but if you add up your total load, depending on your CPU and other power draws you'll have a hot PSU which means PSU fan noise and potentially a PSU that dies a bit sooner. A PSU can run at 75-80% capacity no problem with voltages, it's within range, but it's like running a overly hot cpu or gpu, it shortens life span.
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>>81449615
I have a factory OC ryzen 3600x, 3 case fans, 1 hdd and 2 ssds
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So what about recommended installs for these new computers,such as codecs, apps, etc on win10. or is this hardware only?
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whens the next big sale
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>>81449574
It's still a scalper's market.

>>81449639
>recommended installs
Check out the OP of the friendly windows thread.
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>>81445751
Can confirm
6700xt for half the price of the cheapest 3070...
Recommendations should be made for current price per region, not for which card gets 5 percent more fps at 4k...
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>>81447488
lmao i have easily spent over 3k on my "gaming station"
and honestly I am actually pretty satisfied so far, the depression doesn't stop but it's at least better than the 20 dollar fucking shit I had before LMAO
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what are the chances I'll be able to snag a 3080 or 3080 ti soon?
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>>81449635
Ryzen 95w, 3 case + 1 cpu fan approx. 6w, hdd 6w, sdd x2 6w, motherboard say 45w = 158w before you drop the graphics card in. If you're same anon as before, 260w max, so 418w. Puts you at 65% of a 650w PSU, a bit on the high side but not terrible
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>>81449692
1 out of however many hundreds of thousands are trying to do the same as you.
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>>81449703
Cool thanks
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>>81447260
Other then A few outliers, the 6800xt and 3080 are within 5 percent of each other at 4k. Recommending one over the other regardless of price is just stupid. I bet you're the same guy who claimed an overclocked 2080ti beats a 3080, and put that in the 4k tier....
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>>81445041
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>>81448250
Your comp will finally be stable...
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>>81449664
ah it was in the archives thanks!
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>>81448562
Looks bad ass!
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>>81449729
>>81447848
Cope, your amd trash is fucking terrible.
Get over it.
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BITCH WHENS THE NEXT SALE. MEMORIAL DAY?
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bought this today, is it good I read online that evga quality is bad now?
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>>81449692
non-existent. you can't even place pre-orders in places like europe anymore. =
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>>81449853
EVGA ranges from good to meh
What you are looking at is defiantly in the "meh" category
There are better options if you insist on being cheap like a seasonic S12III
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>>81449914
>defiantly
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>>81449914
just got it because it was on sale, will try to cancel or return it and get a better one ^_^
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>>81449944
psu is the one part you definitely ("defiantly") dont want to skimp on since it can fry everything else in your pc
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>>81448451
That I would agree on.
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>>81449853
I know everyone else is bashing it, but I've never had problems with 750w evga bronze psu's. Fan noise kicks in if you overload them but they keep going fine.
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>>81449944
The fact it's originally like ~$65-70 when there is better options with longer warranties for less money makes me question what EVGA is smoking
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>>81450012
its defiantly fucked up.
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>>81449914
seasonic used to be the budget brand to avoid like the plague. shitty components I haven't bought one for years
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>>81450057
seasonic was defiantly good in like 2013. i dont now about know.
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>>81449199
any thoughts on motherboards?
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>>81450057
Really?
I've ran their absolute cheapest in many of PCs and needless to say not one failed and have outlasted the rest of the systems they where in like these two
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>>81447676
Try to put together a preliminary parts lists. Graphics card could be used RX 570 4GB. Don't forget a high refresh monitor

>>81447848
Funny that you're calling me retarded when you're clearly the retarded one considering your ass backward anti Nvidia FUD. Literally giving bad advice (as described in the post you replied to, #81447260) because you hate Nvidia for some unknown reason

>>81447864
Shithead, I removed it from the 4K category. If you want to lump 1440p in with 4K, you're going to get your pet I'm-too-poor-for-this-but-I-love-Radeon-anyway card removed

>>81448356
>OP pastes used to consistently say "plan your build around your monitor/display".
Yep, that was before an AMDrone changed my OP into the current one because the older one wasn't aesthetic enough, despite being better on multiple fronts and containing more information

>>81448451
>what monitor you eventually will want to get, not what you have right now.
Only if you're getting the monitor relatively soon after the rest of the build, and of course that's what "plan your build around your monitor/display" means. If you're getting the monitor two years later you should be at least changing the GPU

>>81449729
>the 6800xt and 3080 are within 5 percent of each other at 4k
Simply false.
https://youtu.be/9ek4izeJIvM
DLSS is a simple plugin for Unreal now, and will be for Unity by the end of the year

>I bet you're the same guy who claimed an overclocked 2080ti beats a 3080
Lost your bet, pay up
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Should I just get an AMD G skew when they come out since it doesnt seem like I can get a normal X skew?

ALSO

Should I get a 3070 TI since I cant get anything else?
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>>81450317
go to tpu and check their latest review that has both 6800xt and 3080, go on see how close it is kek instead of just looking at your gaytracing games
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>>81450482
That's not gaytracing shithead, that's DLSS.
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P1 Crucial 1tb or 1tb 860 Evo for boot drive?
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>>81450536
860
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>>81445041
My grandma told me she want some decent gaming PC. So we end up with this: processor 5800X, msi torpedo motherboard for amd processors, 32 gigs of amd gaming ram, 5500XT graphics card. All hardware was already paid up and combined together. How bad this setup is? The last time I asked this question - no one was able to answer normally.
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>>81450841
>5500XT
It's bad. Why do you hate your grandma?
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>>81450862
I don't hate her, it was the small budget. I wanted to buy 3090 and give her my trusty 2080ti in this year - but that wasn't happened(because freaking miners).
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>>81450841
At least post the PC Partpicker link.
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>>81450317
>Other then A few outliers
>proceeds to post one benchmark of gaytraced dlss
Autistic twat
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Do any of the monitors on the general give you the option to turn off Displayport hotplug? Hate that my windows and my icons get shuffled when I have to turn off my monitor. Looking at the 2k - 144hz monitors.

Most people dont give a shit about that option in reviews but it drives me up the fucking wall.
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what are my chances of getting bamboozled by buying a chinese gpu new (not a miner card)? I was thinking of buying one of their zotac or colorful brand cards.
Do you think they have malware on them? Or tracking software?
Should I not bother and wait in the breadlines for a used USA brand gpu?
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>>81450862
5500XT = RX580. It’s fine.
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>>81445041
I'm a fucking retard who made a thread on V and G, while I could have asked here, but please indulge this numbskull.

So I'm trying to build a decent desktop to play my favorite games (Soulcalibur VI, Bad Company 2, and Dolphin emulator), as well as light video editing and Music Composition as I am a professional Jazz musician.

What if I buy one of these
(link to Dell Optiplex 7010 SFF Quad Core i5 3.4GHz (3.9 overclock) 4GB RAM 500GB HDD Windows 10 that 4chan thinks is spam)


and pop one of these in there

https://www.newegg.com/biostar-radeon-rx-550-va5515rf41-tbmra/p/27N-002J-00015?item=9SIAMHYEBY8582&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-_-video%20cards%20-%20amd%2Fati-_-biostar-_-9SIAMHYEBY8582&source=region

will I have a decent experience??? Anyone have any better ideas? I understand once I get it, it will be like piecing together legos
tw here are the requirements for SCVI


CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz or AMD FX-8370 4.1GHz
CPU SPEED: Info
RAM: 8 GB
OS: Windows 10 64-bit
VIDEO CARD: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB or AMD Radeon RX 480 4GB
PIXEL SHADER: 5.1
VERTEX SHADER: 5.1
FREE DISK SPACE: 60 GB
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 4096 MB
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>>81451082
I am from Russia and this setup was bought in DNS as parts(I know this is not the best electronics shop, but whatever).
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>>81451101
>gaytraced
You're stupid
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>>81451134
DON'T BUY RADEON ITS FUCKING DOGSHIT
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>>81451212
THAN WAT DO I BUY INSTEAD IN THE SAME PRICE RANGE THAT WILL RUN SC6 AND IS COMPATIVLE WITH THE DESKTOP I LISTED???
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>>81451134
I purchased, yet haven't received to test an AMD FirePro W5000, it looks like a shit card on the outside, but in reality it's better than the iGPU of the 3400g, and gives the rx 550 a run for it's money, downside is that it only has 2GB of vram, upside is they can be had for as low as $50 on ebay (I got it on sale), look at the reviews and benchmarks of it on youtube for a better idea of what you're getting though. The FirePro W5000 can handle GTA 5 on highish settings, so if you want a more modern card you have to shell out for an RX 570/580 4GB or a 5500xt, which is the true budget option, the W5000 is just a very cheap alternative to an iGPU or RX 550.
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>>81451134
nah m8, I did a little leg work, SCVI's min requirements as listed on the steam page suggests a gtx 1050, here are benchmarks comparing the rx 550 and 1050
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+1050+review
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+RX+550+review

it will probably launch and run but the experience is gonna be ass. also the prebuilt you're suggesting only has 4gb of ram and it suggests 6gb minimum, so it's really gonna be sucktown on that system.
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>>81451238
>>81451238
so would a 570 be compatible with the OptiPlex I listed?? Do i just pop open the thing and snap it on to the mother bored?

I just got 3500k in stimulus and as long as I don't spend over 500 for a PC I'm good (already have mouse, keyboard, pirated OS)
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>>81451276
This is the listing, it says 8
https://www.ebay.com/itm/333925731263?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item4dbf864bbf:g:x4kAAOSw0HtgVCaw&amdata=enc%3AAQAFA

>>81451276
>mother bored
Just kill me before I blow myself up trying to put this thing together lol
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>>81451258
in retrospect I typed the wrong listing, but the 4gb ram is 100 dollars cheaper, wouldn't it just be better to by the 4gb ram version and just install another 4 gb for like 20 bucks??
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>hmm should i get the 6700XT for 680 Euro or 1370 Euro

tough choice
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about to put my first pc together, any tips?
this better be as easy as people were saying i have no idea what anything even is
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To the fag who's been whining about Nvidia driver overhead, here's another example of Radeon driver overhead
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>>81451303
you will enjoy the more expensive one more
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>>81451303
The 680€ one is only listed as pre-order because they didn't get around to wiping their database yet.
It will never be in stock no matter how long you wait, infact they almost definitely won't even let you go through with the pre-order process.
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>>81451303
>a card that exists vs a card that doesn't exist
Yeah, real tough choice you got right there.
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>>81451288
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/333925731263?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item4dbf864bbf:g:x4kAAOSw0HtgVCaw&amdata=enc%3AAQAFA
Any full height card will not fit in that case, pci slots come in full height, and low-profile height (which is what the sff dell has), so you would need a new case (If that dell motherboard will even fit in a standard atx case), or do some serious hacksawing to get a 570 to fit.
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>>81445041
This image speaks the truth.
Spent tons of money on setup for gaming - running everything at max settings and after about a week of having it, I realised what a waste it all was.

Needless to say, I sold my parts (fortunately, for more than I paid for them due to demand).
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>>81451329
Do you have any baseline desktop that I could just shove a mid-tier graphics card to play Calibur, Mario Party on dolphin, and light video editing/music software as well??

Really kind of confused lol
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>>81451311
>a graph with no context...
Err...thanks buddy!
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>>81451301
yeah definitely, but it kind of depends on the configuration dell is giving you. I don't actually know, but it could be something like a mobo with only two ram slots and two 2GB sticks, so adding a 4GB stick will only get you to 6GB.

thing is man, we're in the middle of the graphic card apocalypse and everything north of "acceptable" is scalped to hell, I really can't recommend a GPU that meets or exceeds a GTX 1050 within your price range as sad as that fucking is.
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>>81451348
This is what you would have to do to put that card in, you need a full size case for the card to fit. You can get an optiplex that's a desktop and not SFF variety. The keyword for optiplexes is mini-tower, not micro tower, they are much wider.
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>>81451355
RX 6900 XT loses to a GTX 1660 Super at 1080p.. what more do you need to know? :^)
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i got a 6900xt for the linux support
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i built my computer 6 months ago but i still cant use it, guess i have to wait until eth crashes in price
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>>81451311
Did you just draw this up or something to bait? It doesn't make any sense. At least I know not to buy nvidia, because the only benchmarks that win are fake ones.
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>>81451456
>OHNONONONONO the post, but unironically
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>>81451474
Thanks for confirming.
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>>81451478
Yup, you've been confirmed for retarded.
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>>81451474
Thanks for doing you absolute fucking best to elevate discussion on /g/ to shit-flinging levels, retard.
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>>81451490
Quit samefagging and bow down to your better, retard. I post data, you post drivel
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>>81451368
https://www.ebay.com/itm/254965479723?hash=item3b5d20792b:g:KPQAAOSwc~dggxRd

So this would work

>>81451361
would you say a GTX 1050 is good for my needs?
Would also like to play a bit of Nier Replicant (didn't care for Draken Gaurd 3 or Automata, but the OG Nier is one of my favorite games of all time)
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>>81451411
Like, idk. everything else?
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>>81451513
Yes, that desktop is a good start, no SSD in it though you'll live with a slow HDD. Just look up someone playing the game you want to play with the card that you think will work on youtube, and check the description to see what CPU they used as well. Or check the minimum system requirements for the highest demand game you'll play and design the build around that. If the i5 3770 of that optiplex isn't listed as the bare minimum for a game, there's no upgrade path other than an ivy bridge i7 for that optiplex, which is hardly an upgrade, it won't do much good if the game says you need something like a 9700k minimum. 1050 is still better than the firepro w5000, and 1050 is not better than a rx 570 4gb, but pretty close I guess.
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>>81445041
so like are ultrawide monitors a meme? feel like they're cool for some gamin
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>>81451543
https://youtu.be/nIoZB-cnjc0
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>>81451556
Generally how can you tell if a graphics card is compatible with a gpu? like with the desktop i linked?
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>>81451513
the 1050 is the minimum, if you're going to spend the money try and get a gtx 1060, or a gtx 1650. Both shit on the 1050.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
The 1060 is actually the most common GPU in use among steam users. You can bet developers have taken notice and it'll probably be the standard for optimization and minimum sys requirements for some time.
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>>81451604
Any gpu that uses pci express will be forwards and backwards compatible with any motherboard that uses pci express, or at least in the x16 speed. Also that optiplex probably lacks a gpu power plug with it's power supply, so you might need to upgrade that too, or find out if it has one, or get some janky sata-> pci power converter. Really old gpu's use agp which has been out of production for a long time, those will definitely not work, but any graphics card (gpu) released in the last 10 years will work with any other motherboard in the last 10 years.
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>>81451604
graphic card is a gpu. we've been interchanging jargon, but they're the same item. As far as compatibility, there's more to it, but basically it's become industry standard that graphic cards fit in the x16 PCIe slot and pretty much every desktop motherboard has one.
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>>81451671
The difference between PCI and PCIe is also important to note, consumer gaming motherboards to my knowledge no longer come with PCI slots and it's all PCIe slots, or there are none that I have seen. The PCIe standard (PCI Express) is the replacement for the PCI standard. It stands for Peripheral Component Interconnect, or Peripheral Component Interconnect Express in the new standard. Sometime around the era of Core 2 Duo and Phenom II is when PCI express was guaranteed to be on a motherboard. Any motherboard that uses an i3,i5,i7 cpu is long after core 2 duo and will also use PCIe.
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>>81451556
>>81451513
Yeah, sorry I'm pretty high, so that optiplex already has an i7 3770, which is maxed out as far as the cpu goes.
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>>81451826
So its good?
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>>81451582
4 year old video...
Got a time machine to?
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>>81451867
I'm sorry sweetie, was the video too hard for you to understand?
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>>81451850
Good for the price, it meets or exceeds the minimum requirements in the cpu department for Soulcalibur VI.
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>>81451887
I didn't watch it
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>>81451887
That's video might be nice but no one is buying rx480s in 2021, a whole generation or two ago. To say that a comparison between hardware+software stacks also applies to the hardware+software stacks today is intellectually dishonest. Next you will recommending intel which was the go-to chip back then.
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Sisters... I can't take it.
>6900 xt
>Can get at msrp, but shit vs 3090, which is impossible to get.
>Intel cpu
>Can get at msrp
>Everyone says only 5950 now any thing else is trash
>Can't find a 5950
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>>81452355
>no one is buying rx480s in 2021
And? As you can see from gamegpu benchmark, the CPU bottleneck occurs right at the 580 performance level, so there's virtually no difference between using a 580 or a 6900 XT in NieR Replicant even with a 5900X, to say nothing of a weaker CPU that would bottleneck Radeon GPUs below what's shown in the benchmark.

The point of the GTA benchmark is the difference in CPU limits; where there is no CPU limit, the 480 and 1060 should be equal, but you can see that Radeon suffers a 15% performance penalty when in DX11 CPU limited situations

Overall your post is nonsensical, especially considering the i5 11400 is the go to CPU for most people right now.
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>>81451671
>graphic card is a gpu. we've been interchanging jargon
I'd just like to interject for a moment, the gpu is just part of a fully functional graphics card...etc
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>>81452501
And my point is that there's no reason to put those charts side by side in your image. Read my post again, I said it was intellectually dishonest.
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>>81452645
>I said it was intellectually dishonest.
Alright well I could say that there's kittens shitting on the moon and it would make as much sense as your comment. If you think the image is dishonest you don't understand the topics at hand, which is clear from your post
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>>81448562
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>>81452758
Let me spell it out for you moron. There is FIVE YEARS of driver development between those two charts. So is your comparison valid? Not all. It is not a like-for-like comparison. If you the second chart wasn't from five years ago I would have belive. This is coming from someone who had an nvidia card back then.
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>>81451563
I thoguht the same thing too but it feels like they offer muhc more for productivity. Some of the real good UW screens are really hard to power.
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Hello I am the guy who was whining about Zen 3 boost yesterday. Turns out the correct solution is just to turn the fans down and let the thing thermal throttle. I am now running my 5900x at 90°. Runs fast both single core and multi core and the fans are very quiet. Thank you AMD.
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Is the 3070 pretty meh versus the 3060 ti and 3080. Like the 3060 ti isn't that much weaker then the 70 and honestly I feel like the sku stack is missing a 3070 ti.
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>>81452989
You can actually buy the 3070. I got mine in a month while some people who ordered the 3080 on launch day are still waiting. This is all that matters in the current environment.
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>>81446785
>>81445097
>>81445221
Using optane as SLOG in ZFS on "incompatible" cpu, doing wonders for database workloads.
Optane is just a drive m8, intel "software" outside of enterprise servers is a joke outsource to 3rd world countries.
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talk me out of buying a 6700xt for double msrp
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>>81453146
just go to your nearest gayclub and spread your buttcheeks, there are better ways to get fucked in the A out there than buying AMD.
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Is using the 8 year old AX760 in this build cutting things a little fine? Not sure whether it's worth it to buy a 1000w platinum+ PSU in a few months or not

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BhNHF8
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>>81453258
your power supply should be fine
what's the story behind that storage setup though
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>>81453258
if you get spontaneous shutdowns when cpu + gpu is loaded then the answer is yes
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>>81445399
Fallout 76 is badly optimised and your FPS can literally drop by 40% just by turning your camera a few degrees.
Decrease draw range (esp for shadows) and things like that. There will be no perceivable difference in the image, but you will gain more frames. Google the settings if you want them spoodfed to you.
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do i go for a single 24" 1080p monitor or two 22" 1080p monitor

24" samsung s24f350
22" philips 223v7qhsb

they're both used but i can get two 22" for the price of one 24"
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>>81445041
tfw I have a multi thousand dollar 4chan machine
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https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/WtTTfP
No games, just for werk.
The work itself doesn't require much graphics at all, still i have no idea what to pick. Budget up to 1k (((euro))), so i have something like 200 euro left if don't cut on something else (psu mby, ram?).
I want it to be quiet and be able to run two 27" 2k monitors, and more than 10 browser bookmarks.
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>>81452435
Literally no one is telling you to get a 5950x and 3090...
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>>81452501
>DX11 CPU limited situations
OH NO.! Not driver overhead on outdated games that run on any literally any new hardware regardless!!! Better buy nvidia to play mah games from 2012....
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>>81452551
Fag
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>>81452972
Yes that is exactly how pbo works. It will just keep going till it can't go no more
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What info do I need to post for advice on buying a second monitor? I've had my PC for almost a week now and would like to get a second monitor.
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What is the realistic performance gain (or better said, FPS gain for video games) if I am running a 3600x with a 3000mhz RAM and switch the RAM to a 3600mhz one for example?
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Ordered a noctua u12s 2 months ago and it keeps getting delayed, should i cancel order a hyper evo 212 v2 or what?
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>>81450317
>I removed it from the 4K category
Lmao mass-replying Alzheimerfag, don't care about your retarded cope, next time keep your braindamaged fanboyism to yourself.

>>81450482
Don't bother he's mentally ill and also has Alzheimer's. That explains his retardation.
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>>81453906
That's all the mass-replying retard can post anymore, dx11 and 2012 games to just go full "whatabout AMD"
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So i have one ssd and one m.2 ssd, any reason to install my OS on the m.2 or should i just keep it on my normal ssd, besides booting time does it benefit me in any way or is the extra space better for files and games
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>>81454153
>besides booting time does it benefit me in any way
Don't think so
Even then the difference should be negligible
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I need the cheapest possible Display Port 1.4 + DSC (so nv turing or nv quadro rtx or ice lake, iris plus, 11th gen uhd) OR hdmi 2.1(cheapest way to get seems to be 3060 but i don't see them anywhere) so I made this.
I just need a new computer thats gonna work with my new display because my old one wont.
I use it 24/7 but all of this modern shit is so insanely fast that I don't think performance is even relevant because I wont be able to tell the difference.
I gotta order in 2 weeks, my friend will be back from vacation and will need his laptop back.
I just had the idea of a laptop with a broken screen or like a replacement laptop mobo that I could jerry rig.
Any ideas? The i3 10100f won't work.
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>>81453977
Probably like 5%. Ryzen is pretty optimized for 3000-3200mhz. At that point it's more important that you get a decent CAS latency, like CL14.
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>>81451101
RTX subhumans seething nobody cares about their memes and gimmicks.
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>>81454192
also is there any way to passively cool a 11400? i can lower the power limit a lot idc its got fcuking 12 threads so itll still be fine. that would be idel.
too bad m1 mac mini doesnt have hdmi 2.1 that would be perfect for me
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>>81451106
>Hate that my windows and my icons get shuffled when I have to turn off my monitor.
You have a laptop ?
And the monitor you are plugging into is higher res than the panel on your laptop ?
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>>81452972
>Zen 3 boost
For people who have historically run their processors cooler, it feels a little uncomfortable to allow your processor to hit 90°C.
Even though that's the temperated that's listed on their website.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-5900x
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>>81453131
>Using optane as SLOG in ZFS on "incompatible" cpu, doing wonders for database workloads.
Thanks.
I'll take the plunge myself and get some modules to play with.
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How will I get a 3070 Ti when it comes out
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>>81454983
Zen3 behaves like a gpu under load and should be treated as such. It's fine for it to be pegged at its target temps and clocks to vary according to temps, power and current.
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>>81445041
Are WD blues 2.5" good? Photoshop (and scratch disc) and storage for photos and files that might be there for years.

They cost around 80$ right now
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>>81453803
Do check out the reviews on the mobos.
The few channels I follow pan the recent mobos asrock has put out on the intel side.

Otherwise the build looks solid enough.
>6 core 12 thread processor
>good enough ram
>ssd
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>>81453955
>would like to get a second monitor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leaDHuKlke8
They have in-depth reviews on individual monitor on their channel.
Try watching a couple of the most recent ones to see what they are about.
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>>81447848
it’s literally the best card you can buy for any resolution
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reminder that AMDelusionals will call Nvidia cards being faster at all resolutions "seriously fucked for lower resolutions" because they are delusional
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What aircooler for 5600x do i get if i have a corsair carbide 200r
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>>81448154
Intel's profits (not, revenue but profits i.e. earnings before tax) in 2020 was $23.7billion (https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/INTC/intel/ebit), AMD's was only 1.4billion (https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMD/amd/ebit). Either those numbers in that chart aren't representative overall or the server and laptop market where Intel still holds far higher market share, are way more profitably than the DIY desktop market.
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>>81453292
Just drives I've collected over the past 5 years and didn't see any reason to get rid of
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>>81455119
2.5" drives perform very poorly. They're fine for storing data but don't use them for anything you care about reading or writing quickly.
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>>81445041
I bought 2000 USD samsung laptop with 1650 last year, regreted buying overpriced shit. Today I googled graphics card prices just for fun and...
>GTX 3600 is 1500 USD
WTF happened?
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>>81455716
Crypto is back and it's damn profitable.
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>>81455412
Cope, nvidia is garbage.
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>>81455716
my laptop has a 2070 in it and it was only $1500
do you also have to manually breathe?
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>>81455588
99% of their profits get eaten up by diversity hires and their shitty fabs in order to operate, Overall AMD profits are higher.
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>>81455796
Miners increases demand but scalpers are the ones running checkout bots and gobbling up stock as soon as it arrives. Death to scalpers
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>>81455815
are you sure you want to post benchmarks from that website where Radeon gets trashed across the board?
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>>81455716
How the fuck did you get fleeced that bad? I bought a msi laptop with a 2070 two months ago for like $1350 lol
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how do i get a gpu, plase helkp
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>>81455899
ive gotten 3 gpus from ebay and they're just sitting on my desk
i got my 3090 from newegg though
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>>81455827
Why write something so inane if you don't understand what earnings before depreciation and tax means?
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Does the amd website ever updates?
Everything is always out of stock, even cpus that I can get locally without problem
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>>81455827
>>81455938
You can argue that AMD actually has growth in profits and massive ones at that unlike Intel where it's declining. They have better profit margins and better ROI, but overall profits in as a numeric value are way higher at Intel, which is only natural because it's a company that's orders of magnitudes bigger. The numbers still indicate that AMD is doing better relatively but Intel is still a way bigger company. How deluded do you have to be to not understand that?
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>>81455910
Why not sell them?
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>>81456031
i make incredibly cheap computers for people (mostly friends) that need an upgrade because they do work and shit on them

last one i did they were upgrading from a shitty $200 laptop from 2012
it was a titan x +10600k build for about $800
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>>81455850
Nvidia will always be garbage.
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>>81455716
*Checked again, laptop was 1200 USD. got confused
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>>81456140
then why did you post a benchmark where nvidia wins as an example?
you need to apply a massive overclock to a 6900XT to match a 3090 at stock
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>>81456072
That's really nice. You keep doing that.
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>>81454764
No, desktop. It's the fact that when you have one monitor on HDMI and the other on DP, it kind of fucks things up.
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I have 6 case fans, but my mobo only has 5 sys_fan connections. Since my CPU cooler is connected to the pump_fan, is it possible to connect the 6th case fan to cpu_fan? Is there any repercussions to doing this?
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>>81456156
3090 can't be overclocked.
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>>81456679
All the PWM connectors should be the same. On my board the pump fan only has DC control and not PWM. That's the only difference.
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>>81455122
Yeah but what about gpu? No gpu-heavy tasks at all, but the integrated graphics sucks.
I also considered amd APU/CPU before making that list (but it was 6c/12th so not a big deal i guess).
Again, 200-250 euro left.
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>>81456679
it really just depends on bios software and if the fans are pwm or dc. on my msi z170 pc mate all of the fan headers are all functionally interchangeable and it doesnt matter if its pwm or dc but on my current EVGA FTWK the 2 CPU_FAN headers dont work with dc fans and three case fan headers are fixed speed. only one header lets you use a dc fan with a curve.

read your motherboard manual kids
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>>81457145
I thought you were just going to be running with the integrated graphics.
If you're also looking to get a discrete gpu then I would consider getting a prebuilt system instead.
You could also look at the price of GTX 900-series cards and 4GB RX 470/480/570 cards on the used market.
Not sure about the situation where you are, but where I am everything more powerful than a GT 1030 is out of stock, and so you have to look at the used market and scalper prices for cards with 6gb of vram or more.
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>>81456914
lmao what the fuck
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Is an i7 9700k worth upgrading these days?
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I just build in a NZXT H210 and the way the HDD is screwed on the bottom of the frame makes it a bit noisy, meaning that I get a constant (although rather silent) humming sound which disappears if I lift the case just a bit. What would help in this case? Anything like rubber pads or stuff like that or do I look for something specific?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xfyd7X
I'm planning on building my first pc after buying a prebuild around 2014.
I want to use the 1070 from said prebuilt alongside the RAM sticks and storage but replace everything else. Also want to put it together in a be quiet! Silent Base 802.
any thoughts on it would be great since im a first timer
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>>81457539
The slower your gpu
the less getting a flagship cpu matters.

>>81457612
Unscrew hdd.
Screw back in wiith rubber washers between hdd and frame to absorb some of the vibration before it get to, and amplified by, the frame.
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Does pirated W10 still update like a legit version?
How easy is the installation process? I just put it in a pen drive right?
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>>81445041
>pic related
This is me. I want a new PC but at the same time I feel it would just make me feel empty. And part of me hates consumerism and technology
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hello niggies I'm going from a 1060 3gb to a 2080 tonight. Can I install my new nvidia drivers right now or should I wait? Shit is Windows 10 x64
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>>81457539
do you need it for gaming or productivity? My wife's 9700K is awesome for gaming but I could see where it would fall behind a 5900X in productivity easily
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

This is the current build I have now. I have everything I need except a power supply. Thing is, I don't know if I need a 600, 650, or 700 watt power supply. The TDP for the 11400 is listed as 65, but if you enable MCE in the BIOS settings for more performance the TDP usually jumps to around 100-120 as the benchmarks show. I may or may not enable MCE, but I'd like to have the extra power in case I want to. Tips?
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>>81458791
Wrong link
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6ZHTfP
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>>81458791
Anon why not future proof it with a 700 in case you ever want to go 3080 or 3090? I put a 550W in my machine a few years ago and regret it.
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>>81456914
>upscaling from 720p to 1080p
>using performance setting
Quality setting for 4k looks great, not sure about 1440p, but everything outside of that looks terrible with DLSS.
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G'day /g/, rate my build
Ryzen 5 1600X
Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050 TI 4GB
Gigabyte A320M-H
2x8gb HyperX Fury 2666MHz DDR4 Ram
Kingston 480GB SSD
Bought for 700 dollars (from pln) because the pc market in Poland is fucking inflated
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>>81458550
>Does pirated W10 still update like a legit version?
KMSpico here, yes.
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>>81457797
>5900x for gaming
>360mm rad
>$370 motherboard
>2.5TB nvme
>16TB HDD
>$80 for fans
Do you just like burning money?
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any recs for a decent 2nd monitor under 23 inches? my shitty 1080p is going to die within the next week.
I use this just watching media while I work. Maybe a higher resolution would be nice, but no reason to have a higher frame rate.

Of course I'm a cheap bastard though.
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Do I just pay scalper price and mine on the side to offset getting ass raped or just suck it up and Wait(tm)?
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>>81458848
That's what I thought with my last build, but I never ended up upgrading.
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>>81457797
What's your budget?
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>>81458998
Which card and how many are you buying?
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>>81458998
fuck waiting
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>>81451563
They arnt worth the hassle and extra bit too run but at the same time I can never go back to a non ultrawide avoid the trap before it's too late
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I hope Newegg burns to the ground
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>>81459052
2500 Euros, the link in my first post is about 1950 euros if you convert it.
>>81458956
it's not just for gaming, I do a lot of 3d modelling and that HDD i was mostly planning on using it to store movies and shit. chose the motherboard for the 3rd M.2 slot if i ever decide to get another ssd.
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>>81459180
I'd switch out the M.2 SSDs for enterprise SSDs. You can find a 1 tb one on ebay for around the same price as those two Samsungs. They're read and write speeds are on par with a gen 3 ssd, but they have a much higher TBW and also have extra capacitors in case of power loss.
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>>81458791
Everyone enables the higher power target in the bios.
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>>81458886
It's a computer / 10.
You should be able to get some 1080p gaming out of it.
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What is the best case for a filthy person like me? Instead of taking basic care of my environment, I'd rather have a case with good dust filters and continue being degenerate.
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>>81458791
Look at MCE the same way you look at an overclock. You don't need it right now with the 1070 so it's only unnecessary additional power draw, but you should probably enable it once you upgrade the GPU and the CPU starts nearing its the end. That being said, a 11400 with MCE enabled can reach as high as 140w, the 1070 will only reach an average of 150w and the rest of the system would probably consume up to 50w, so you're looking at around 360w power draw. Unless you intend to upgrade to a 3080, I don't think you'll ever come anywhere near 600w power draw.
>but power spikes
Don't listen to people who say this. A quality PSU is able to sustain power spikes far beyond its advertised power for limited times.
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>>81447051
>6800XT 650$
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>81458886
Don't you have used sandy, ivy and haswell office PCs in Poland? I could've built a PC that can max out the 1050ti in any game for the equivalent of $300 here in Switzerland even during this fucked up situation. Unless you did it for fun though, in which case, just enjoy it and don't look for strangers approval on the internet. We always will find something to shit on.
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>>81459505
To be fair, all those prices are literally out of a fairy tale
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>tfw I have to dump my money into eth just to double it and keep up with pc prices
Time to play a game of chicken and see what comes first, the crash or me pussying out and taking profits.
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>>81447051
>Huang Blood
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>>81459577
I mean you can occasionally buy a 3080 or 3070, even custom ones.
But I have never even seen a Sapphire 6800XT, not even from the big tech YouTubers. They don't exist
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M2 NVMEs are like the most awkward thing ever to get in right
I nearly screwed it in only half connected until I happened to realize I could push it a bit further
Like who the fuck designed these slots, this is straight up horrible, I still don't know if I connected it right
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>>81445399
Most likely your RAM being too slow and bottlenecking your CPU hard.
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is it fine to have my case fans running at 400-500RPM at idle and then having them ramp up accordingly when needed?
i'd rather have it as silent as possible when it doesn't need cooling anyway
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>>81460046
yea it's fine.
i had mine setup that all my fans except cpu cooler stopped when i did webbrowsing and youtube stuff and then start ramping up aggressively at 60C
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Is water cooling worth it if I want my pc to be as quiet as possible?
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>>81460086
that's good, thanks anon
do you know if it's possible to not have them running at all?
if i'm adjusting from BIOS then the 400-500RPM range is the lowest it goes
it's barely audible, but also useless so they might as well not run
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>>81458998
If you really want to mine / become a coinfag then you pay scalper prices, otherwise you suck it up and wait if you have anything usable

>>81458973
Any $50 craigslist IPS

>>81458649
Wait, use DDU during the swap.
>Run DDU with setting for card swap
>PC shuts down
>swap cards
>reboot PC

>>81458550
>>>/g/fwt
hwidgen

>>81457797
A single 16TB HDD seems like a huge failure risk. I'd always recommend running RAID or having another drive that you use for periodic backups

>>81454192
>>81454256
Honestly not too sure. I think B560 boards have a lot more power features. You can at least lock to stock, so that's 65W. I think it'll only throttle if it does happen to hit its temp limit if you're running 7z or something, so your task will just take longer to complete. Not sure about decoding 4K 120FPS video on it while passively cooled though
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>>81459882
That's true. AMD obviously had way lower stock than nvidia and still allocates more silicon to their CPUs because they're more profitable for them.
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>>81460114
depends on your manufacuterer and type of fan and the mode they are set to in bios.
in pwm mode there is no fan stop functionality.
in dc mode there is usually a check box that says stop fan or something like that.
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Is a 1650 super for $250 worth it?
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>>81460165
just Jewgled DDU. thanks anon I'll be doing that tonight for my swap.
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>>81460240
also use nvcleaninstall
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/

to install as little nvidia bloatware as possible.
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>>81460227
It's around $100 more than it should cost new right now, but comparing it to scalped cards costing $800-1000 more than msrp, this looks downright reasonable.
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>>81458882
>Quality setting for 4k looks great, not sure about 1440p,
>but everything outside of that looks terrible with DLSS
UW like 3440x1440 looks great; obviously it's about the base resolution. By "everything else" you just mean 1080p which doesn't need DLSS to hit whatever framerate target you have (although DLSS providing good image quality at 1080p would be nice for the poorfags). Even so, if you're unable to hit your framerate target as a poorfag in some game (let's say 60FPS 1080p with a 3050 Ti), the lesser of two evils might be using DLSS as opposed to turning off all shadows etc. Who knows, probably a pick your poison situation.

>>81456914
Reminder shills like to use Ultra Performance at 1080p to make DLSS look bad. DLSS is the best graphics tech that's come out in a long time. A life saver for 4K with great image quality. If Red Media is singing its praises, you know it's good
https://youtu.be/MjKFhT8YMHE?t=932

>>81454078
Liar, some of the most played games are DX11 (GTA5) and of course NieR Replicant is less than a month old. Those are also the type of game where you're more likely to run into a CPU bottleneck. DX12 games are usually GPU intensive enough that you don't hit a CPU bottleneck. There are many, many more games that will have trouble with Radeon driver overhead than there are that will have trouble with Nvidia driver overhead, e.g. >>81445399. As a reminder you're too stupid to know that Fallout 76 is DX11 so you moronically diagnosed the problem as Nvidia's DX12 overhead, which is obviously impossible.
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>>81460227
if you NEED a new GPU (as in you have nothing, not that you're upgrading) then it's a pretty good price considering the situation
if possible though don't buy it, of course
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>>81460305
Yeah there's literally no reason not to run DLSS on every single game it supports.
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>>81460307
I mean I could sell my 260x for 100 on eBay although I’m not sure if it would justify the marginal performance.
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>>81460381
Are you sure you can sell your 260x for that much? The 1650 super is around a 3x increase in gaming performance.
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>>81460330
At 1440p and above, yes, any game with DLSS 2.0 should be played with DLSS on. It's free performance at virtually no image quality loss. The only people salty about that are the drones, because of course it's sour grapes for them.
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>>81460100
if you are gonna custom watercool your gpu too then you will probably get down noise overall
if you are talking about aio on cpu then it will probably be on par with a large air cooler but your gpu will probably be the noisiest part still?
>>81459448
you would probably get better gains vacuuming your room than letting your pc suck in all the existing dust all the time
just any case with intake dust filters?
>>81458791
>>81458798
>>81459460
a 11400F with unlocked power limits will draw like 230w (total system)
+100w from the stock
they draw a lot of juice
>>81456914
>ghosting
>blur filter
>lagging imagery before the signal has been processes
maybe for singleplayer games or some shit, but seems like a bad meme still
>>81453977
0 if gpu bottlenecked
>>81460330
wrong neggah
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>>81460305
>>81460330
You will never be a real resolution
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help me decide between running a:
xeon e3-1225 v3
core i7-3820

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-E3-1225-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3820/m12983vsm739

I have both on their own motherboards which are comparable. Which should I use?
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>>81460506
What game doesn't have ghosting and blur already? TAA is completely ubiquitous. All the flaws in DLSS are even worse in TAA. Your only alternatives are no AA and SSAA which are unusable.
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>>81460512
You will never have enough money to buy a 6800 XT
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ha ha I didn't even burn my house down!
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>>81456268
>>81451106
It's fixed on recent Windows 10 update, not sure if it's out for everyone doe
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>>81460606
Already have, not going to buy a Radeon though, because it's worse in VR
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>>81460506
>+100w from the stock
This isn't 2003 anymore.
>b560 chipset 6w
>2x8GB DDR4 at 1.5v 8w
>SSD ~2w
>HDD ~8w
>4x140mm fans 12-15w
How the fuck are you getting 100w for the rest of the system components aside from GPU and CPU?
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>>81459882
I got one don't fucking ask me how
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>>81460381
if you really can sell it for that much it's a great deal
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>>81460420
I believe so. They’re going for around 90-100 on eBay right now.
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Someone explain PCIe 4 to me. Is it only in 500 series chipsets or will it work on a 400 series with BIOS update and 11th gen CPU?
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How much worse is the 6700XT vs 6800XT and if I could get my hands on a 6900XT watercooled one for 1400euros would that be a good deal and if so would my PSU of 850w be enought?
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What is the feasibility of just running the motherboard inside a cardboard box? This is doing NAS duty and I don't really feel like buying a new case.
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>>81460752
Both your CPU and motherboard need to be PCIe 4.0 to enable you to use NVMe and PCIe devices with PCIe 4.0. The 400 motherboards, with the exception of some z490 boards, were not build to the PCIe 4.0 standard, so they will never work with PCIe 4.0. Additionally, the H410 and B460 boards got no bios support for any 11th gen CPUs, so they don't work anyways.



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