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>NEWS
Substrate shortage to affect all foundries

>UPGRADE ADVICE
Post complete specs including monitor

>BUILD ADVICE
State budget, region, and monitor specs
List use cases (e.g. gaming, editing, rendering)
Assemble a preliminary parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
Budget Workstation/Web Browsing: Pentium G6400
Mid-range Productivity: i7 10700K, R7 3700X
High-end Productivity: i9 10850K, R9 5900X
Budget Gaming: i3 10100F
Mid-range Gaming: i5 10400, i5 11400
High-end Gaming: R5 5600X, i5 11600K

>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVEL
Budget 1080p: Used RX 470/570 4GB
Mid-range 1080p: RTX 2060, RX 5600 XT
High-end 1080p : RTX 3060, RX 5700 XT
Mid-range 1440p: RTX 3060 Ti, RX 6700 XT
High-end 1440p/2160p: RTX 3080

>RECOMMENDED RAM
Capacity: 2x8GB or 2x16GB
Speed and CAS Latency: 3200/3600MHz CL16
Beware: Some Intel motherboards (e.g. H410, B460) are limited to lower speeds

>RECOMMENDED COOLERS
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
Basic Web Browsing: 400-450W
Gaming: 500-850W depending on GPU (aim for 50-75% at load)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
OS Drive: NVMe with TLC NAND + DRAM cache
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/

>MOTHERBOARD INFO:
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=RzdbjX

Previous: >>81039636
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build now with a 4650g or wait for 5700g?
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>>81046879
>Mid-range Gaming: i5 10400, i5 11400
>High-end Gaming: R5 5600X, i5 11600K
Would you add "(gear 1)" to the end of 11th gen CPUs for gaming?
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>>81046901
I thought about it for the 11600K at least. Haven't decided yet.
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in what situation would 32GB ram help versus 16GB for gaming
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>>81046897
I'd say wait™ but availability might be shit
>>81046955
If you want to do some extra stuff while gaming, and I'm not talking about watching youtube videos or fagging up discord.
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Can someone recommend me a good board for an 11400? I heard that asrock was shit, but it feels like my choices are either Asrock or paying $200+.
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>>81046955
Dual-rank (32 GB) performance at 3600 MHz is better than single-rank (16 GB) performance at 3600 MHz. On Intel CPUs, single-rank performance will equalize somewhere past 4400 MHz. AMD Ryzen 5000-series cap at 3600-4000 MHz for most scenarios.
https://kingfaris.co.uk/overclocking/ram/intel
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>>81046976
any ideas when 5000 series apus will drop?
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Can't decide between a 10850k or a 5800x.
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>>81046992
If you have a locked processer no real reason to go for an expensive z series board
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>>81047009
Nvm just realized I have a SN850. Gonna go with a 5800x.
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>>81047009
10850K needs a more expensive motherboard
5800X needs a good cooler because it gets pretty toasty
Factor in both and reach a conclusion based on the price. Performance differences should be negligible.
>>81047002
No
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>>81046992
Minimally acceptable and the only other Z590 board below $200: MSI Z590-A PRO $179.99

$200-$250:
MSI MAG Z590 TORPEDO $229.99
Gigabyte Z590 AORUS ELITE $219.99
Asus TUF GAMING Z590-PLUS $239.99

I wouldn't consider other boards in this price range.
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Are ultrawides a meme if you're just mainly going to be gaming? I would love to have the extra space on each side, but I heard you might run into some issues trying to play games that don't support 32:9.
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is it safe to order from newegg?
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>>81047048
Why do you keep recommending Z boards for locked CPUs?
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>>81047051
no, shipment will explode
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>>81047051
newegg sells factory rejects
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>>81047050
>shoveldog
MOOOOOOOODS
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>>81047050
went to best buy today to see ultrawides in person because i was thinking about going with a 34inch over a 32inch 4k and fuck me are they narrow. no way i could use one.
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>>81047051
If the the price is worth it yes. If you can find the same price on best buy or amazon then go that way.
Newegg charges restocking fees and has horrible customer service.
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>>81047078
What do you mean?
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>>81047050
feels good to be in this shoveldog timeline again.
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>>81047050
I just got an ultra wide this monday and it's been great for me. Granted I came from a shitty 60hz tn panel to a 144hz va but I've got no complaints. I'm still waiting for my gpu to be delivered to really put it to the test but I've been playing starsector,minecraft, and isaac all without any problems in full screen.
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Is this trash for $1280?
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>>81047109
I'm more worried about older games though
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>>81046605
The 6800X or whatever it'll be called is likely going to be a good enough CPU to last you 5 years, so no.
Also DDR5 is likely going to be very slow (poor latency) and expensive when it comes out. So "wait for AM5" is likely going to be a wait until 2023 until you can get a good value build.

Also don't forget that first gen AM5 will probably have teething issues, so even more reason not to adopt it on the first year.
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>>81047122
I build something similar for a relative (with 8GB more RAM) last year for ~550 bucks. So, yes, it's terrible
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>>81047122
Yes absolutely what the fuck.
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>>81047094
i honestly think the 13inch tv i had as a kid had a taller screen hieght. just imagine like two and half 12inc 4x3 moniters next too eachother but maybe somehow worse idk i just couldnt do it. if you can go to a store and see one in person before you buy.
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>>81047122
Trash tier.
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>>81047122
You can get a better laptop for $1000.
That should be like $700 max.
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>>81047126
A valid point. I just fired up deus ex to test it and it's running fine for me at full screen. It's just something you'll have to risk if you want to go wide. Shit just wasn't that big back then.
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Is infinity fabric worth bothering with?
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>>81047138
What's a decent prebuilt pc for around $1200? Does this even exist?
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>>81047178
To add to this. I fired up geneforge and it unsurprisingly isn't supporting ultrawide. It's perfectly playable and looks fine but there's the black areas on the sides. Still looks better than my old garbage monitor.
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autism update: returned 10700K, ordered 10700 for $50 cheaper
may swap 10700 for 11700 within 30 day return window
thanks for reading my blog
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I kicked a 7 year smoking habit but cannot stop upgrading shit I don't need to upgrade on my pc.
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>>81047178
>>81047208
So older games just play at 16:9?
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>>81047246
From my experience and what others have said online, yeah.
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>>81047297
Alright, thanks for the info.
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>>81047121
What can I change to get 375 pts in Cinebench R15? Does it matter if I have 2 DIMMs or 4 DIMMs installed, when the IMC is set to auto (unganged) anyway?

>3800 MHz CPU
>1.5875 V CPU
>1.4 V CPU/NB
>2000 MHz HTL & NB
>Stock DDR2 DRAM settings

I broke Windows 10 twice with CPU/NB Voltage 1.25 V and 1.5750 V CPU with these settings, both times had INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE and had to reinstall the OS.
1.5875 V CPU, 1.3 V CPU/NB is memory unstable with these settings half-way. May be the heat wall.

>3700 MHz
>NB 2200 MHz
>HTL 2000 MHz
>CPU Voltage 1.5000 V
>CPU/NB 1.3000 V
No crash. 2400 MHz NB is stable with 1.4 V CPU/NB, crashes halfway Cinebench run with 1.3875 V.
2200 MHz HTL is not stable.

>3600 MHz
>NB 2400 MHz
>HTL 2400 MHz
>CPU Voltage 1.4625 V
>CPU/NB 1.2625 V

is stable for Cinebench R15.

Trying to beat these scores on air: https://hwbot.org/benchmark/cinebench_-_r15/rankings?hardwareTypeId=processor_1765&cores=4#start=0#interval=20
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i7 4770 anon from last thread. I've been doing a lot of reading about the intel 4th gen chipsets and have come across an MSI H97M-E35 LGA1150 for 75 dollars (including shipping).
Is this a good buy? I'm not sure if I would need to update the bios or anything of that nature, otherwise, I guess I will be buying one of the chinkshit boards and a battery.
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>>81047320
Can find better Z97 boards for $50-$125.
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>>81047359
Why are they better? Are they more likely to be compatible? I've only found more expensive Z97 boards and from what I've read they're for overclocking and things like that. I don't really need to overclock and if the H97 board is compatible without a bios update then that seems like the best deal. I appreciate the help either way.
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>>81047218
The PC expands to meet the needs of the expanding PC.
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>>81047126
>>81047246
>>81047301
Check out wsgf.org for widescreen workarounds for games without official support
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>>81046866
Thanks- I'm looking at the 10900 currently, and for motherboard probably the AORUS master x570 for a motherboard. Does that sound alright? As far as I can tell there wouldn't be any issues
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>>81047186
Laptop prices can be okay.
I think you can get like a 5800H + 2060 for like $1200.
Not a good price for a desktop, but still okay for a laptop.

There was a 5600X+6700XT for like $1250 the other day. Still expensive... but better than $1000 for a GPU alone.

>>81047214
Buying any intel CPU that's not the 10400/11400 means you're a retarded intel fanboy, sorry. All other choices are objectively bad.
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Any micro ATX case recommendations? I don't care what it looks like, I just need USB/audio on the front and airflow for retards.
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The LED strip on my motherboard flashes blue when starting up but then turns and stays red. I have the whole computer set up now and it works fine but I'm not sure why it does that or if that's indicating something is wrong. I believe it's just for aesthetics, but the switch from blue to red confuses me. Motherboard is MSI B450 Tomahawk.
Any insight or is this a non-issue?
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>>81047697
Doesn't the motherboard have error LEDs? I wouldn't worry if those LEDs don't lighten up.
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>>81047602
X570 is for am4 amd cpus anon. Z490 or z590 is what you should be looking at for a 10900/k/kf.
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>>81047697
RTFM
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>>81046879
what dis picture
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>>81047889
Oh yeah, I'm stupid. I think I'll get the z490 in that case, thanks.
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Need to replace a very old laptop with something for heavy browsing/multitasking, including gaming and HD/4K playback, but also occasional A/V editing and encoding. SFF builds preferred for some degree of portability while still being efficient enough for a power user.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FNpNHz

Would this build work with Windows 10 LTSC 1903?
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>>81047612
never bought intel before but i need the igpu and 8 cores, would have probably bought amd as usual if they'd released the 4750g retail
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>>81048166
Tray 4750g availability is pretty good though probably not worth it at the moment.
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I just realized my PSU is about 11 years old. Am I in danger?
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>>81048207
Just clean out the dust, and you'll be fine.
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>>81048207
Depends what you'd call danger. If it's a good PSU, no. It might die on you at any moment but won't do any harm. If it's a bad PSU then you should be impressed that it lasted that long and evacuate immediately.
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>>81048232
No problem, I'll open it up and do just that.

>>81048255
Is Ultra known as a good brand?
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>>81048267
>Ultra
Never heard of that brand. Which means either means they're a cheap chink brand or out of business. Both possibilities don't exactly boost confidence.
>I'll open it up
Don't touch any capacitor.
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>>81048166
the other guy is retarded or trolling
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First new build since 2010.

Can I get a rating?
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>>81048462
Gaming? Basically everything in it is overkill. Workstation? Get a better SSD.
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>>81048490
>Basically everything in it is overkill.
I just wanna hoon the fps on that ultrawide.
From what I gather the 3090 just barely makes 4k-ish run at normal fps.

>Workstation? Get a better SSD.
My work is just text editing.
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>>81048462
Don't get a HDD, even for data. Yes SSD will be much more expensive but it's worth it and from I can see you don't have money issues.
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>>81048462
drop the hdd and go for a 2tb samsung 980 pro
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>>81048525
*from what
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>>81048525
Isn't an HDD more durable and stable over the years?

I say this running an early Intel SSD from 2010 that still runs like a champ lol.

>>81048537
Third guy telling me to upgrade the SSD.
Guess I'm sending the Intel back lol.
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>>81048462
>>81048552
The x570 aorus master has boot issues. Not sure about the aorus pro, but I would avoid it anyway. Get a decent msi/asus board.
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>>81048552
Modern SSDs last forever as well, go either Samsung or Crucial MX 500.
HDDs are slow as fuck, you'll be constantly waiting for shit to load. It's jarring.
And your system will be much quieter.
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Any chance the average person will be able to get a 3080/6800 at msrp by the end of the year?
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>>81048552
>running an early Intel SSD from 2010 that still runs like a champ
Probably because it's SLC NAND. NAND got increasingly shittier over the years.
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>>81048576
What about the ASUS TUF?
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/All-series/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS/

>>81048622
So SSDs aren't as good/durable now?
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>>81048651
>So SSDs aren't as good/durable now?
Basically, NAND flash got worse to make SSDs more affordable. The controller chips got better, though. The SSD in your PC Partpicker pic is QLC flash with has a guaranteed life span of 200TB write cycles.
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>>81048651
That was a great board for the price back in late 2019 to early 2020, but it's obsolete today because of the x570 tomahawk and x570 unify
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>>81048462
you should get two of the video cards and run them in SLI
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>>81048462
Like others said. Get a better PCIe SSD like the Samsung 980 Pro or the WD SN850. The Samsungs offer similar performance for less money. For now.
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>>81048723
Is the Aorus pro I selected less obsolete than the TUF?
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>>81048723
My vote for the Unify or Tomahawk. I have a X570 Unify and and it's sweet. Better OC'ing and more features than anything else in it's price range.
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Anybody know what brand this is? The guy who's selling it said he got it off his pre-built.
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>>81048812
Probably a 580x.
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>>81048774
So is the Aorus pro I selected less "obsolete" than the TUF?
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What's a better size for a 1440p monitor? 27" or 32"?
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>>81048812
影驰
http://www.szgalaxy.com/
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>>81048462
>5400rpm 4tb hdd
are you insane? drop that shit, dude
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>>81048945
It's meant for long-term storage that I won't use much.
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Posted some stuff last thread, Cpu/RAM/Motherboard all new and the rest is on an old system. Just wanted to see if anyone thinks anything could be different/better or if I'm retarded

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900 2.8 GHz 10-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490 VISION D ATX LGA1200 Motherboard
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO Video Card
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: XFX Core Edition 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" 1920x1080
External Storage: Samsung T5 500 GB External SSD
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>>81048886
27"
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>>81048594
none whatsoever, marketwatch analysts expect shortages to last at least 1.5 years before supply meets demand, add another 3-6 months for prices to fall down. by that time RTX 40 is here. all of this assuming covid goes away, which it won't, more lockdowns will come, more tyranny will follow. more people at home = more shortages. new fabs won't be up and running for 3-4 years. enjoy the new normal.
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>>81048980
>all of this assuming covid goes away, which it won't, more lockdowns will come, more tyranny will follow. more people at home = more shortages. new fabs won't be up and running for 3-4 years. enjoy the new normal.
What makes you so confident in saying that, anon?
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>>81048957
Your CPU and board are mismatched - unlocked board with a locked CPU. Either change the CPU to a 10850k (and buy a cooler), or change the board to B560/H570.
CPU and RAM are potentially mismatched - the 10900 is more a workstation chip but 16GB implies a gaming rig. If your workflow doesn't need more, fine. If it's a gaming rig, you could drop to a 10700k with negligible performance loss.
You need an SSD for boot+programs. Or did you shuck that T5?
>Buying Windows
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>>81048957
Also, your card is really overpowered compared to your monitor. Something to think about later on.
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Is his a good build?
CPU:Xeon E3 1230 V3
Motherboard:AsRock H81M-HDS
Ram: Should I go ECC or normal?
Storage:1TB HDD
Video Card: What is a good used amd gpu for 1080p gayming?
Power Supply: EVEGA 500W 80+
Monitor: I need a cheap 1080p moitor
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>>81049132
>>81049153
My monitor, SSD, HD etc are old/will be replaced later, and I already have windows but just threw it on there. I do use the SSD for boot.
I think you're right about going down to a 10700k though, I will be using it for gaming so that sounds better. Do you still think I should get a cooler for it in that case? I'm assuming yes.
Thanks for the advice.
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Where am I supposed to buy a graphics card better than a 1660 if they're all sold out?
>>81046955
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friend wants to sell me his old pc
specs:
some random lga 1151 mainboard
core i5 6600
8GB DDR3
GTX 950
some random case
what would a reasonable price for these parts ?
he said between 150 - 200 €
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>>81048980
>what ist ETH 2.0
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>>81049856
eth 2.0 will fuck miner in the ass anon
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is the 5800x really that bad? my desktop legit broke tonight and I have to get it fixed in the next few days for my uni assignment, I mostly do productivity stuff, I study architecture, all the 5900x's are sold out everywhere or massively overpriced, what do?
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>>81049872
yes and therefore decrease gpu demand
+ used (miner) gpu get thrown on ebay
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>>81046879
Reminder.
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>>81049851
>150 - 200 €
take its a cheap
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>>81050032
>cant have coreboot
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>>81049960
It's not bad. The 5800x is a good deal when compared to 11700k/11900k but a scam when compared to the 5900x.
It's not a bad product but it can be hard to cool as amd pushes the clocks really hard on the 5800x.
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>>81050209
well all the 5900x are sold out everywhere otherwise it'd be an easy pick, I heard the only reason they run hot is because the tdp is set to 145w out of the box but its supposed to run at 105 w, so if you manually reset it to 105 then you wont have issues, idk if thats true though
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is it good ?
it cost me 1200€
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>>81046997
so 2x16gb is dual rank? or is not every 16gb dual rank?
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>>81046762
Finally done with my build. Man, this cooler is a bitch to install. I was afraid I'd break the processor or something. Surprisingly, I didn't fuck up too much this time. Also deep cleaned and replace the thermal paste on my old GPU. Just need to get two 140mm fans for the intake and more storage and I'll probably be happy with this.
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>>81050280
what do you need a 16 core cpu for ?
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>>81050445
gaming and more importantly mining
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>>81050470
>monero mining
is that even profitable ?
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>>81050300
Most 2×16 GB kits are dual-rank > 3000 MHz. Micron Rev.B (found in Crucial kits) may be single-rank.
Dual-channel is a different thing, two DIMM slots installed. Not to be confused with dual-rank, where there are memory ICs on both sides of the PCB of the memory DIMM.
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>>81050488
not as much as an ethkike, but i have a 10yo cpu, and it was time to change anyway.
And ROI is about 1 year 24H/24H, and i want to keep this CPU forr another 10years.
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>>81047182
nah. safe to disable it
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>>81050563
thanks i am looking to upgrade towards end of 2021

will keep my eye out for dual rank 2x16gb
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>>81046879
I bought a cooler master elite v3 600W PSU the other day and it's unbearably loud during operation... It shouldn't be so, right? The seller is telling me they don't want to replace it due to noise level being "relative", but even during idle state it's terrible
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>>81050407
that is a beautiful machine, my man
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>>81048552
>Isn't an HDD more durable and stable over the years?
Na not any more even QLC is similar reliability to HDDs on average. Don't have to worry about SSDs being damaged from being dropped and shit.
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>>81050407
Looks comfy and tidy. Good job.
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>>81050407
as much as I like lights (when it's set to a proper colour scheme and not unicorn vomit) this is super clean, well done lad
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Should I pull the trigger and buy 4 Noctua NF-S12A for my P400 case?
They are half as quiet as the stock fans(PH-F120SK) at 17.8 db(A) vs the stock fan's 27 db(A).
They also have better static pressure and airflow.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! WHY CAN'T I BUY A GPU!!?? I'VE BEEN F5ING EVERY PRODUCT PAGE FOR A MONTH AND EVERYTIME ONES IN STOCK I CAN'T GET TO THE CHECKOUT IN TIME!!! AWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

>AHHH!!! OH GOD, IM GOING INSANE!!!!
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>>81051443
dont they let you preorder it?
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>>81050229
105W tdp ryzen parts boost to 142W of power at stock configuration, by design. Setting the power limit to 105W is gimping the cpu from stock. The 105W figure is about thermal load that your cooler should be able to dissipate, not electrical load power.
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>>81049224
You will have to as the 10700k doesn't come with a stock cooler. If you're upgrading from a recent Intel CPU then the stock one should fit. Although if I were going to blow that much on a PC I'd get myself a nice cooler just for noise reasons.
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>>81051443
I can sell you an RTX 3090 for $5000.
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>>81051314
Get A14s if anything (or A12s if 140s don't fit). The S12A is only good for completely unrestricted situations which is very far from the P400 non-A.
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>>81051017
>>81050953
>>81050922
Thanks anons. Unfortunately I can't find a way to disable the RGB on the cooler. I just assumed I could just download something and turn it off, but nothing like that. Is replacing the fan the only way to do it without buying an RGB controller?
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I'm sorry, I meant P400A
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>>81052043
You can either not plug in the fan's RGB header or if you don't want a stray header cooler master has their Masterplus program which would probably work since the hyper 212 black's fan is the SF120R which is compatible, if you have extra zipties then yeah you can just keep the RGB header unplugged
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>>81051443
if youre in europe check out mindfactory
they have some gtx 1660 super (500€) and rtx 3060 (800€) in stock
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>>81051920
I'm sorry, I meant P400A.
I tend to forget there's the P400 non A exist.
So are the S12A worth it for the P400A?
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>>81051443
>tfw I got a RTX 3060Ti for 430US$
feelsgoodman
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>>81052162
Even then I'd take the "A" variants. Although frankly the stock ones are plenty good enough - just tune them down if the noise is distracting you. If you bought the non-digital variant then maybe 1 additional 140mm for intake would be reasonable in a setup like pictured.
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>>81051846
yeh but I heard theres some problem with the design so it cant actually dissipate enough heat and thats why some peoples cpus are running at like 80+ degrees under load even with decent cooling, I also heard that reducing the tdp doesnt actually reduce the performance that substantially in real world applications, in any case my previous cpu was an intel 4790k so I think anything I get will be a decent upgrade
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I'm having an issue with RAM speed. I'm on an MSI B450 board with a 3700x CPU. My RAM is 3200Mhz, but both BIOS and CPU-Z only read it as 2133Mhz, even with XMP on; it defaults to 2133Mhz. Manually trying to set it to 3200Mhz in BIOS results in an immediate crash, and I have to set it back to Auto, which obviously goes back to 2133. When I built the PC back in July, I remembered reading that there was an issue with either Zen2 processors or Ryzen mobos in general (can't remember which) that was causing RAM issues, so I largely forgot about it until now that I'm trying to OC my CPU. I've already updated my BIOS and updated my chipset drivers both to the latest stable release, but I'm still having the same issue.
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>>81052126
Okay, I'll give that a try. I didn't bother with Masterplus since 212 Spectrum is supposed to work with MSI Mystic Light but for some reason I can't control it via that program. Thanks.
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>>81052199
Good afternoon fellow 3060Ti at close to MSRP enjoyer, what are the tidings for today?
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>>81052349
I'm currently playing Yakuza Kiwami 2, the cabaret grand prix has me hooked.
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>>81052254
I'm buying the S12A then, thanks anon.
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>>81052320
"Problem" isn't really the right word - any chip that small on a high-density node will run hot. There's nothing they can really do about it short of sanding the die a la 10900k. On the other hand smaller process nodes can tolerate higher temperatures so anything <95°C is within spec for 24/7 use. You can certainly try setting an offset voltage to bring temps down but it will likely result in some loss of performance. Depends on how well your particular CPU did in the silicon lottery.

>>81052415
I meant the _A_12 not the S12_A_, sorry. Even the mesh front presents a pretty restrictive intake for such an airflow-optimized fan. In general SP-optimized fans should always be preferred for PC use. Apologies for r*ddit but this gives a good overview.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/6c3cla/discussion_sp_vs_af_fans/
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>>81052457
But the stock fans have shitty static pressure, the S12A would be an upgrade, look at pic >>81051314, the stock fans have 0.96 mm H2O vs Noctua's 1.19 mm H2O.
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Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my 2x 1TB HDD. The first drive is encrypted and full of porn, and the other one is for movies and TV shows. Would buying a 4TB 5400RPM WD drive and partitioning it into two halves for the same purpose be a good idea?
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>>81052507
Different companies measure SP and AF differently. You can't compare the numbers. Best to look for benchmarks. On the whole, however, case fans are pretty unimportant for system temperatures - as long as they're there and spinning fast enough. A fan on a cooler needs to keep the flow even, with the right amount of turbulence, over a heatsink so design is relatively important. A case fan just needs to bring in fresh air past some sort of obstruction; it doesn't really matter what the air does after it's in the case because the heatsink fans are the ones that actually direct it. Obviously this analysis has limits but they don't really apply to your enclosure. I suspect the S12A would do just fine but the A12/14 would be better for the same money. Is the noise from the stock fans actually bothering you or do you just have a case of upgrade fever?
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>>81046879
>Budget Gaming: i3 10100F
Why not add the 3400G? It even has somewhat decent iGPU.
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>>81052591
No AMD in the OP, drone.
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>>81052582
I already have the case and yes the stock fan is bothering me that's why I thought the S12A was a good choice because of the 17.8db(A) noise level.
The A12 at 22.6db(A) would be quieter than the stock's 27db(A) but still too loud I think.
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>>81052599
But there already are AMD CPUs
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>>81052625
Try tuning your stock fan curve first. If they're hitting 100% at load, or are too reactive, you can probably get them down to a good point while only sacrificing 1-2°C. I rate Noctua highly but don't go spending money you don't have to.
I hope I'm not condescending to you here but dB is a logarithmic scale - a reduction of 5dBA will roughly half the perceived noise level. Lower is better but I suspect the noise floor of your study is over 22dB.
Additionally, the SP fans will be able to operate at a lower speed (and therefore lower noise) than the AF ones because static pressure itself depends partially on RPM. Furthermore, if you go with 140mm fans you can get the same airflow at a lower RPM because of the increased blade surface area.
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>>81052398
Niiiice. for me it's just my usual survival/sightseeing suite with Space Engine, No Man's Sky and taking a walk in a minecraft achitecture server with memeshaders along with engineering games like KSP, """Engineering""" games like Garry's Mod, and stuff chock-full of graphics mods and I also use memelearning stuff on the side and do heavy editing/rendering, very hype for KSP 2 and S&box
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I need some advice about choosing a monitor, I have been using a Samsung SMT22A550 for roughly a decade now and I have been meaning to use it as a secondary monitor while I get a new main one.

The problem is my country has a piss poor variety of choices and I haven't been able to clearly choose a best option from the 24' 144hz+ monitors I have found.

These are some of the models I picked to try narrowing things down, I also gave my local prices as relevant info:

LG 24GL600F - TN - LED $ 1140
AOC 24G2/BK - IPS - LED $ 1390
Samsung Odyssey FG73 - VA - QLED $ 1690

Then there's models like these that go for roughly 3k, are they really worth it going double the price? 3k here is roughly 550$ US.

Benq Mobiuz EX2510 - IPS - LED
Alienware AW2521HF - IPS - LCD

Finally, I'd also like to point out I'd rather have a nicer image than the absolute lowest response times.
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>>81052599
But, there's a lot of AMD in the OP

>>81052591
Out of stock or extremely overpriced and has been for months. The graphics on a UHD 750 chip like 11500 isn't as good as Vega 8, but they're not really that much different since we're talking about about GT 1030 performance for the 3200G. At least with the 11500, you can just drop in a better graphics card when you can find one. But if the 3200G or 3400G were available for cheap, I'd definitely put them in the OP.

>>81052628
He's just trying to take back the word drone so that it doesn't hurt as much, kind of like the fags did with faggot

>>81052329
Could be that the RAM is faulty. If you can, set it to a slightly lower speed, like 2933; that might be the best you can do. A phone call to MSI support might not be a bad idea either

>>81050910
You can try to RMA it with Cooler Master directly. "The seller" meaning you bought it used? If it's new I'd think you should be able to return it if you want to unless you live in some third world shithole

>>81052691
Purpose?

>>81052756
24G2 is the best of the bunch
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>>81052802
>purpose
playing old games, some AAA and possibly start streaming
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>>81052834
>>81052802
Also, not playing FPS games
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>>81052738
I have to have them at 100% because my RTX 3060Ti throttles if I don't.
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>>81052885
What case fan configuration do you have? If you're running it with 1 intake 1 exhaust (which I think is standard) you might just need another intake at the level of the graphics card. Might as well be a Noctua but either way you're going to need to tune it properly. I'd also take a look at what your card is doing - throttling at stock settings in such an open case is a sign of either the wrong fan curve (some cards have the option of silence or performance) or a faulty card. Worth tuning that with Afterburner too. Running your case fans at max to lower GPU temps is sort of like replacing your back box to get more horsepower - it'll technically work but the real restriction is further upstream.
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>>81051891
Thanks. If you're still there do you have any recs?
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>>81053036
It really depends on how far you want to push it. If all you want is to unlock the turbo limits and have it be reasonably quiet then a 120mm tower would do (212 is de rigueur but there's plenty out there). To push higher clocks with manual OC you could look at a dual tower 140mm or 280+mm CLC (D15 or Freezer II 280 get my vote). For a milder OC, or silence focus at stock, then look into dual-tower 120 or single-tower 140mms like the Fuma 2 or DR4. There's a tier list in the OP; anything Tier 5 or better will be able to handle it at stock and, basically, as you move up the scale in quality, and price, you're buying noise and frequency in some proportion of your choice.
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>>81053027
I have the case with 3 intake fans and one exhaust(rear).
The 3 intake fans are the ones that came with the case:
https://phanteks.com/PH-F120SK-DRGB.html
The exhaust rear fan is an old 120mm corsair one.
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>>81053345
Hmm, you should still look into what your graphics card is doing because it really shouldn't be throttling below base clock in such an airflow-focused case. By all means replace the intakes with Noctuas, whether AF or SP, but I doubt it'll do much more than mask the true problem.
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10600k or 11400
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You know what? fuck GPUS and fuck this new build. I'll just buy a god damn PS5 and be fucking over with it, at least that's not overly inflated as fuck.
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>>81053966
10600K if the price is similar unless you need a lane of PCIe 4.0.
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>>81053976
You sure about that anon?
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>>81054010
Watch them start checking IDs and putting them in a database to limit purchases
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>>81054010
$800 from where I live
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>>81054029
If only. Sadly, this was a known solution since the debacle of the 3080 launch and retailers have done jack shit. At least with a Best Buy, when you get a card into your cart, you actually have time to check out.
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Reporting on my MicroATX build using an AMD Ryzen 5 3400G APU. Had to buy an older Athlon 200GE to update the BIOS. Turns out I bought a newer version of the motherboard. Other than that, it was a pretty smooth ride. Thanks to the guys that looked at my parts list and approved. Runs fast as fuck and can confirm everything works out of the box on GNU/Linux, including WIFI and bluetooth. 10/10 would build again.
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are there any good alternatives to the g502 lightspeed? i love heavy mice and my wired g502 has been great for the past 2 years, but i've wanted a wireless mouse for a long time.
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>>81054290
Have you considered the g502 wireless with the logitech powerplay mat?
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>>81054335
g502 lightspeed + charging mat is definitely my top choice, just wondering if there are any alternatives i should consider before i buy anything on a whim.
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>>81054010
PS5s have dropped to the 600-700 € region here now.
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Requesting upgrade advice.
>i3-6100T, 16 GB RAM, all in a Dell 3040 Micro. No monitor.
What would keep the power consumption similar, but have better performance while torrenting via OpenVPN? Current setup seems to max out at 30MB/s (download), but I have a hunch that torrents with bigger piece sizes (8-16 MB) reach 60 MB/s. Improving upload speeds (from 5 MB/s to ideally 60 MB/s) would be great too.
>inb4 WireGuard
Not an option currently.
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So can anyone comment on the RX 6900 XT?
I was just able to check out on the AMD drop that's happening. Originally I had only been looking at nvidia, but in a moment of desperation one of hte following streams I have been watching for cards just told me about the AMD one. The reviews as far as price vs performance don't seem the best, but the benchmarks seem pretty good? Is the >no drive meme still valid? Should I cancel? I'm not interested in trying to scalp it.
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>>81054656
Listen, if you got it anywhere near MSRP, you probably should cash out your chips and call it a day. Unless you want to go back on the grind to get a 3080 or something and resell the 6900 XT at a profit, it's just not worth the time to think through options that really don't exist in this market.
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>>81052834
>>81052871
Not sure why you think you need an upgrade. What are you looking for? If you want to keep the same resolution, your options are limited. Most monitors would be a sidegrade until OLED monitors arrive, although you can get a higher refresh rate and slightly better image quality by paying over a grand

>>81053966
Toss up

>>81053976
"Lole"

>>81054656
You could probably trade it if you want to. Basically the 6900XT and 3090 are super overpriced even at MSRP, but then again beggars can't be choosers
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>>81054726
>>81054727
That's what I'm thinking. it was MSRP from the amd direct site just a few minutes ago. I guess I don't know how I feel about risking a trade since I live in a shithole and don't feel like being shot, so I might just count my blessings even with the cost diff to the 6800 (at msrp)
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>>81053707
I’ll change the thermal paste and thermal pads on the card to see if anything changes.
If that doesn’t work I’ll get the Noctuas.
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>>81054984
Check the fan profile before you go voiding your warranty - it could be set to some sort of low noise mode which will cause throttling at high load.
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So I been using HP Pavilion 2009m Monitor for years. My brother wants me to get a new monitor. I am kind of torn between Dell S2421HGF 24 Inch FHD TN, Anti-Glare Gaming Monitor or ASUS VY279HE 27” Eye Care Monitor. I don't have a lot of money so I am trying to just something okay to use.
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>>81055092
What's your budget? Use cases? Video card? Viewing distance? Do you specifically need something without flickering?
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>>81046879
For two nights in a row now, my PC crashed from a "hardware" error, showing the white VGA light, implying it's the graphics card. But so far, its only in the dead of night, and seems to only happen after I turn off the display on the monitor.
Will it get worse? I'm scared of trying to fix it and accidentally making it worse.
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>>81055138
Around 200 dollars I guess since I am trying to get a new cpu at some point. I do not use cases. As for video card right now it's Nvidia GeForce GTX 745 (OEM) which I know is trash. 11.5inches or 29.21 cm for viewing distance. I prefer without flickering since I don't remember struggling with that even on my pavilion.
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GPU SUPPORT BRACKET?
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>>81055337
>I do not use cases
He means, what do you use the monitor for (gaming, watching movies, browsing, etc). If you're not gaming, just get a 24" 60Hz IPS monitor from the trash somewhere. I got a nice one for $50 from craigslist like three years ago. Otherwise,
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#xcx=0&r=192001080&P=2,4&sort=price&page=1&F=381000000,622300000
IPS if you want more vibrant colors, VA if you want deeper blacks / more contrast
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>>81055337
>I do not use cases
I meant "what are you going to do with it?". Given the anaemic video card I'm going to assume you don't do much in the way of gaming.

>11.5inches or 29.21 cm for viewing distance
That's very short. Do you have poor eyesight or is it just preference?

Given this information I think you ought to be looking at either a 27" 1440p or 24" 1080p monitor. Panel type should probably be VA for the contrast, although IPS would also be acceptable, especially if you do colour work. A quick look at productchart.com gives the Dell S2721D (1440p, IPS) at $239 or ASUS VA24EHE (1080p, IPS) at $115. For VA the Acer ED242QR ($149) might be worth a look. Neither of your original options are particularly suitable for your use; the ASUS is 27" 1080p so the pixels will be very visible at your short viewing distance and the Dell is a TN which aren't suitable for human consumption.
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>>81055780
>>81055586
Yes I do game a lot and browse, but it's been getting harder to play things even on bare minimum. Family wants to get me something since I don't really ask for much. Yes my vision is bad. I think it doesn't help my desk is very small which I am going to get replaced as well.
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https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cooler,6352-2.html
So this is actually the best in its class?
What is the issue with compatibility?
I have an R5 5600X but will it be a problem if I move away from AMD trash?
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>>81055883
Why the hell is it Tier5 here?
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/
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>>81055865
For gaming ideally you'd want something like the VP249QGR except with a better stand. OP has a list of some 1080p high refresh monitors, and of course there are others that are acceptable. Having said that a 745 isn't really a match for the monitor. I can't imagine trying to play games on a 745. You'll have lot better experience even on something with the performance of an RX 470 / GTX 1060, which during better times can be had for around $100 on the used market. Either one is a fine match for a 1080p adaptive sync monitor
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>>81055865
Well you should pick your resolution and refresh rate based on what video card you're going to get - recommendations are in the OP although he seems to have omitted the high-end AMD cards for some reason. A GT745 isn't going to be able to drive much of anything so it's not really worth worrying about it at this point - just run windowed or upscaled. Since your vision is poor it does open up the possibility of 1080p@27" for the sake of text size (although scaling is an option).
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>>81055991
>>81056014
Thank you for the help regardless I appreciate it.
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>>81055000
I already checked the gpu fans with riva, both speed up at nearly 100%, besides dissembling your gpu doesn't void your warranty, at least not were I live.
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>>81055908
Because it's not as good as a 360mm AIO. It's class would be "120mm single tower" and I'd certainly say it's among the better offerings in that category. Best? No, because the U12A is in that category despite its much higher price.
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>>81056035
That is very odd. You really shouldn't be experience "true" throttling, i.e. below base clock, with the fans at 100%. A repaste+pad is certainly in order. Especially if it doesn't void your warranty.
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The evga queue is a scam isn't it?
I'm never getting my card am I?
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>>81056041
Apparently it comes with paste
Do I have to buy one of those solutions shit to take the old one off or can I just use a piece of paper?
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>>81056139
You can get away with rubbing it off dry but a little iso alcohol makes it easier and more thorough. Should be available at the chemist. The compatibility problems are somewhat of a moot point because both AMD and Intel are set to specify a new socket for their next processor lines. We don't know about forwards compatibility for either but it's likely they'll be similar enough that you can send away for new mounting hardware when the time comes.
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>>81046879
>>81047933
this
google images turned up nothing
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>>81047933
>>81056289
https://zeptobars.com/en/read/Nexperia-NXP-BCV49-BJT-NPN-Darlington
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It won't be the end of the world to install a mobo without an i/o shield for a month, right? I bought a used motherboard for an old processor but it didn't with the shield so I have to order the shield from China and it'll take a few weeks to get here.
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Is it true that Crucial rams are just overclocked, because someone told me that I can just overclock a 3200 cl16 to a 3600cl? I've never done overclocking before and not sure if a nooby like me can do it, but I can find the 3200 in stock but not the 3600 ones.
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>>81055908
because that is a retarded list for zoomies who only use aios.
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>>81056568
cope airfag
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>>81046879
i would add i9-11900k for top end gaming. it outperforms even the 5950x in games.
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>>81046879
Thoughts about Ryzen 5 3600XT + RX 5700XT for 1080p gayming?
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>>81055497
GPU HAET BRACKET
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I got thermal paste stuck between the transistors next to the gpu die. Its nearly impossible to remove. How fucked would my gpu be if I just left it there?
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Had to bite the bullet and pull the trigger on a 3060/5600x combo because my old PC died and I really needed one fast. Does anyone have any hands-on experience on how it will handle 1440p gaming?
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>>81056834
If the paste is non-conductive you'll be fine
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So I've never had a gaming pc before so this is all new to me. I bought a prebuilt, ran speccy and it says all my temps are very high. 90,97,90 and or 32,36,32. The thing is I'm not even running any games or doing anything.
Also the fans on my graphics card (3060ti) aren't even moving even though it's supposedly running hot. Do I need to update my drivers? was something plugged in wrong? please help.
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>>81056513
RAM can be overclocked like any component with a clock cycle. Most Crucial 3200C16 is probably Rev. E (8GB sticks) or Rev. B (16GB Sticks) which are both decent overclockers. With that said the silicon lottery will absolutely come into play with any kit so don't be surprised if your kit isn't able to go above 3466 at 2V.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke_JgL8gxsA
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>>81056875
Why not go look at some benchmarks? The 5600X is top tier as a gaming CPU so you won't need to worry about it holding your FPS down. IIRC the 3060 is a decent 1440p card; able to do 60FPS average in any title with the settings turned down a bit.
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>>81056927
Speccy is deprecated. Use HWinfo64.
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>>81056927
Can you post a screenshot of speccy? Or explain what cpu and cpu cooler you have, also fan layout in the case
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>>81056990
I did, made sure to check that it was paired with the 5600x too, but the results varied quite a lot. In 1440p I saw 63 fps in RDR2 / 61 in Valhalla in one video and in another both got around 51-52 fps with pretty much the same clock speeds. Same with Cybermeme, one video had it at around 55 fps, another at 43, raytracing settings were the same in both. That's why I asked, at least most of the time I can rely on the shit I read here and not have to trust some shilling youtuber fag.
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>>81057004
I'm using a corsair H100i AIO and the case is a Lian Li with several fans. And cpu is a ryzen 5600x. I still don't get why the fans on the GPU aren't moving.
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>>81057003
Other programs are pretty much saying the same thing temp wise.
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>>81057110
The benchmarked FPS can vary due to a number of factors. Many of which are outside of the control of the review outlet. Some examples include:
>Driver version
>Part of game benchmarked
>Windows version
>Windows settings
>Telemetry software choice
>Background services
And so on. Combinations of these factors, and others, can add up. Even something as picayune as the temperature of the bench lab can now affect boost clocks and therefore performance. Note also that a review company may actually choose to leave some of these factors uncontrolled in an attempt to present a more realistic FPS number for the consumer e.g. benching with the "balanced" power plan since most users will never touch that setting.
You happened to pick two of the most demanding titles available for your comparison but even then the minimum FPS of 43 in CP2077 means that you would quite easily be able to get it up to 60 by disabling RT or downgrading other settings so don't sweat it.
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>>81057156
The fans on the GPU aren't moving because they're set to not activate until it reaches a certain temp. And your temps are fine, pretty low even.

The temp that will start causing you problems is 90°C, did you think that it was 90°F, you meme
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>>81057172
Those temps look fine.
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>>81056954
So then should I just hold out until I can buy a 3600 ram then, and before I you ask want 32gb so there is a reason I can't buy the 16gb.
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Whats a good fan for a 5 3600? Not looking for some meme gamer shit thats over priced because it has red lights on it.
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>>81057286
>did you think that it was 90°F
Yes, because thats literally what is says hen I set it to fahrenheit.
>>81057296
Guess I'll take your word for it.
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>>81057325
It's your call. The RAM doesn't have to be Crucial btw. RAM is highly commodified - any kit will be guaranteed by the manufacturer to work at its XMP settings provided your mobo supports that speed.
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>>81057366
>Anon learns about temperature scales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_units_of_temperature#Graphical_representation
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>>81057371
I heard that Corsair uses some cheap shit and I don't know anything about the competitor's ram other than Crucial.
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>>81047050
If you're a richfag yes, otherwise no. Ultrawide in itself is great but not if you can't afford to get 100+ frames, and you'll likely want gsync or async for it too. If you cheap out its not worth it.

But they are great, couldn't go back. Far more real estate and they are great for films and certain tv shows too.
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>>81057388
I just thought 90F was high for a idle cpu. Guess I was wrong.
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>>81057366
>90°C - performance problems
>90°F - no performance problems

You're looking at the temperature in F and expect the performance problems you'd get with the C temp.

To get the performance problems most parts get when reaching 90°C you'd have to reach 194°F. That's how temperature scales work.

You do know the difference between Celsius and Fahrenheit, right? I mean, I assume you're older than 12, but I probably shouldn't make wild guesses like that.
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>>81047126
>>81057412
If a game is old you might not get widescreen support, but so far everything I've played that wasn't backed in 2D hand drawn stuff (eg like old adventure games or whatever) work. And even when one or two don't, you still just 'put up' with some black borders which you won't even notice after a while.
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>>81057396
Watch the video I linked. There's only 3 major manufacturers of memory chips (4 soon if Chyna Stronk). All of them make some types that are good for OC and some that are bad. Crucial is pretty wedded to their Revisions E and B which, like I said, have decent overclocking potential; subject to binning and silicon lottery. Corsair buys modules from all three manufacturers so you really don't know what you're getting if you're not "in the loop", so to speak. That doesn't matter to the user who will toggle XMP on and leave it at that - it matters only to the manual overclocker. If Corsair has 3600C16 kits in stock but Crucial does not you can safely buy the Corsair kit and enable XMP. If it doesn't work then they will replace it with a functional kit that conforms to spec (subject to you having a board that is specced to handle 3600MHz).
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>>81057361
Scythe Ninja 5
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>>81057429
30C is about 10C over ambient which is perfectly normal for idle. Good, even, considering that your system likely isn't at "true" idle; background processes etc.
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>>81056641
>likes bloat
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>>81057361
Why do people ask about cpu fans when the answer is and always will be the Cooler Master 212?
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>>81057511
I see, didn't know that.
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>>81057156
Your temps are fine, nothing to worry about. People usually use celsius when talking about temps.
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after 4 months, my 5950x is FINALLY being shipped soon. I need a decent motherboard. Current one is a MSI Z 170A platinum and I hate it. Of course that motherboard isnt compatible.

>budget
$1000

Here is my current set up without the motherboard https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bdPDdD
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>>81057632
I need to upgrade my ram and gpu. Current gpu is a 980ti. Current ram is corsair DDR4 16 gigabytes.
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Goddamn I just want to buy a AMD GPU, when will it all be restocked?
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>>81057632
>$1000 budget
>For a Zen 3 CPU
>Cooled by a 240mm CLC
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Is it worth the effort to try to "debloat" windows 10? Does it make a noticeable difference?
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>Build
5600x / 3070

>Monitors
Option A: 2x 27GL850 (1440p, 144hz, 27") for $1000
Option B: 2x 27GN950 (4K, 144hz, 27") for $1,600

Am I going to have buyer's remorse if I go with option A?
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>>81057700
yeaaaaaah I've been needing to upgrade my fans and anything related to cooling. I've had the Corsair H100x for 7 or 8 years? My power supply that I currently have has lasted the same amount of time too.

my budget is $2000 then. Need a motherboard, case fans, cpu cooler.
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>>81057767
The 5950X cannot physically pull more than 300A even under LN2. Likely less than 200A under even the most potent of AIO coolers. To that end you'll have to choose based on features although most of the "high-end but not halo" boards have more than you could ever need. Something in the $300-350 bracket would do you well; Unify, Aorus Ultra, Taichi, Strix, although even the $200 X570/B550 boards will be able to do some decent PBO on a 5950X. For cooler, Liquid Freezer II 360. For case fans, Noctua A14s and A12x25s. Beige only.
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>>81057969
>Likely less than 200A under even the most potent of AIO coolers

would it be better to just ditch the AIO and get a air cpu cooler instead?
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>>81046879

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yZMxK3

I'm building my first pc. I was originally going to go with a 3600 build but going Intel actually saves me around $200. A few questions:

>does this support pcie 4.0 if I want to upgrade in the future?
>does ram speed matter for Intel? Is the ram I have picked fine?
>hows my ssd choice? Should I spend the extra $45 to get a 97 evo?
>I want to upgrade to a 3060 ti/3070 down the line when they become more available, is the 550w psu enough or should I get a 650w? Its $35 more

Thanks in advance/g/.
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Where can I get a GPU bracket/brace to support it and prevent sagging?
I have a Corsair Airflow 4000D case
All the options I've found are garbage zoomer lightup shit and with shitty chink """brand""" labels tacked on
This is the only reasonable option but there are no clues as to whether it will mount on my case
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Cases/Carbide-275R-GPU-Support-Bracket%2C-Black/p/CC-8900230
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So I've seen someone get 5.4 ghzall core on a delidded 11900k. With ddr4 5400 it would then be the fastest gaming cpu for 1080p 360hz right?
I got a 6900xt but my 9350k is choking in some games. Already have the ram.
Only games and web browsing. Nothing else demanding ever. $1k budget for cpu and mobo
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>>81058959
No. Intel are just for budget CPUs now. Ryzen if you want high end. Go look at reviews.
>9350k
Yeah we could already tell you were a dumb memer before saying that.
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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144397?Item=N82E16813144397
I need a 11th gen mobo and anything cheaper than this seems unusable, but this one has no real reviews. Is it alright? Should I bite the bullet on it?
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>>81059213
If it has the features and connectors you want, why not? The B460 board was well received too so take that for what you want. It's not like MSI is a no name manufacturer.
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Hello /g/, I pretty much have zero knowledge on PC building so I'd really appreciate if someone can help.

I've been using an old desktop Aspire TC-860 with the following spec:

64-Bit Windows 10
4GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 720 GPU
i5-8400 @2.80GHz CPU

I want to play Apex Legends with my mates, so this is definitely under the minimum specs.

If I were to upgrade to meet the recommended specs of:

8GB RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 / AMD Radeon R9 290
8GB GPU RAM

Is it worth it? (If it's possible to upgrade at all since this is a pre-assembled desktop PC) Or should I just build everything from zero?

P.S My budget is definitely not high, under $600
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>>81058959
Definitely not worth. You're going to be running that RAM in Gear 2 anyway. A tiny OC like that can't make up the significant advantage that Ryzen has in some games, especially at high refresh rates. You'd have to look at particular games, and of course the Zen3 can also be slightly OC'd

>>81058450
3600CL16 RAM is barely more expensive right now, and that monitor sucks because pixel transitions are slow IIRC. Check OP for a list of monitors

SSD is fine

If you're going to upgrade to a 3060 Ti you can get away with the 550W PSU, but it wouldn't hurt to get a 650W.

>>81057736
27GL850 is better for the 3070 for sure, and where the fuck are you getting an $800 27GN950? The upgraded version of the GL850, the GN850, is likely cheaper than the original model. Spending less is definitely better considering all monitors suck compared to what will exist when OLED hits the market. Also graphics cards (like your 3070) are pretty weak for 4K so there's no reason to buy that res anyway

>>81057699
Your best bet is to catch a drop directly from AMD, and there was one recently, so probably not for a while

>>81057632
Nice, I have the XB270HU. Just stopping by to say that
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>>81059327
my xb271hu has had its issues. I wouldnt recommend it, I need to get it replaced.
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>just bought 5600x at msrp

Feels good. Now to wait for a 3070 and get back to playing doom and making spreadsheets
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>>81057366
Alt + PrtSc takes a screenshot of the window only, tech illiterate

>>81056990
>IIRC the 3060 is a decent 1440p card; able to do 60FPS average in any title with the settings turned down a bit.
Not in my opinion. I understand that you're replying to an anon who had to buy one, but a 3060 Ti is the minimum if you're buying new. It's barely 60FPS in some titles and significantly stronger than a 3060

>>81056875
It'll be fine. I'm (still) using a 2060 6GB at 1440p and it can play 99% of games out there. Probably will want to upgrade sooner rather than later though

>>81056780
That's a no go. 3600XT isn't strong enough for the 5700 XT in a lot of games
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>>81059316
The main issue from what I see is the 300W FSP PSU will limit the GPU you put in. I definitely wouldn't put anything that would require power outside of the PCIe slot like a GTX 1650. If you put anything like a 970 or 290 in there, you will need a higher wattage PSU. Since your case is ATX and not an SFF desktop, you should be able to do a swap easily with any old ATX PSU on the market. Suggest probably something like a 600-700W 80 Plus Bronze minimum for what you are doing. Any GPU that meets the requirements of Apex will work then.
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>>81059371
>I wouldnt recommend it, I need to get it replaced.
Of course not at this point, but for its time the XB270HU was one of the best. If I were buying now I'd be betting the Samsung Odyssey G7, probably. Honestly probably not worth upgrading your monitor until OLED hits the market
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1610344427
>In two separate statements to FlatpanelsHD, LG Display confirmed that the mention of 20-30-inch displays above are in fact OLED displays.
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>>81059316
You can easily throw in another 4GB stick (or even ditch your current RAM and use a 2x 8GB kit). CPU is fine. The problem is the graphics card, which is hard to get right now (best bet for something cheap is a used 4GB RX 570, which is slightly above the recommended specs you listed). If you are going to get a 570, you'll have to make sure you can power it, which means checking to see whether your PSU has the right wattage + connectors, which judging by a cursory search, it does not. Which in turn means that you either need a new PSU (which might not be easy either, if there is a proprietary connection between mobo and PSU, though I'm not saying it can't be done with adapters+ingenuity) or basically a complete rebuild (new platform + PSU).
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>>81059316
A 1660 super or RX 5600 would be enough and work on that PSU assuming it has 6+2 pin power connectors.

And you should probably just purchase a new 2x4GB or 2x8GB RAM kit and sell the 4GB that's in there. It's probably slow as fuck RAM and adding a new better stick would end up downclocked to make it dual channel.
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I know that gpus are in short supply, but what about cpus in terms of AMD, because I already bought a B550 mobo? Will the supply be good for the 5600x?
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>>81059723
No one really knows, but you can walk in to microcenter and buy one at MSRP, so supply has probably almost caught up to demand
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>>81059723
If you are patient you can find 5600X for MSRP still.

It's a good CPU at MSRP. But not if you're paying more.
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>>81059814
Online demand is still high enough that stuff is out of stock, but yeah, 5600x and 5800x are in good enough supply at MSRP at Microcenter that you don't need reservations anymore for them. You can get 5900x and 5950x at lesser known Microcenters, and I got a 5950x from one in Ohio where I had a relative buy it for me and they had 25+ in stock at that time. It took around 1 week to sell out.
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>>81059723
Newegg has them in stock at msrp right now. I just grabbed one.
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>>81059450
I see, so a better (and compatible) PSU should be top priority before the graphic card then, thank you !

>>81059605
>>81059628
About the RAMs, after an inspection of the motherboard, I see 2 slots, 1 black (which is where the 4GB stick is) and 1 white (empty).

Is it safe to use a kit of 2x8 in it? I have some doubt since a few google search showed that different colored slots is used to differentiate between pairs, but since this is only 2 slots and not 4 I'm not sure what to do.
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When is someone going to make a cool looking aftermarket NVME heatsink? I want something that matches my D-15. picrel is the coolest heatsink I've seen but you gotta buy the whole drive.
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>new at building PCs
>oh cool, this MSI MOBO has pretty rgb lights!
>set up all the drivers necessary to make my MOBO bright green
>it doesn't work
>also all the garbage from MSI makes my CPU spike to 100% for no reason
Learned my lesson to check whether all these frills are in fact garbage, problems with CPU stopped as soon as I uninstalled whatever the fuck those msi "utilities" were.
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>>81059723
There's stock alert channels that make it easy to find them when they go up for sale, unless you're in a region the usual online stores don't ship to.
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>>81060051
Look up the motherboard model number and make sure it supports dual channel memory under specifications. It is weird that the slots are different colors when there's only 2 slots.
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>>81060118
Is the Sabrrent Rocket one not good enough? The copper color on the black would match the D15.

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocket-Heatsink-Silver-SB-HTSS/dp/B07TN2RX2K?th=1
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>>81059946
>>81059814
>>81059883
>>81060171
I can't get it now since I don't have enough money, but I'm hoping they'll still be around next month or two.
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>>81060387
That one probably has great performance but the aesthetic doesn't do it for me. I want dozens of thin fins rather than a chunk of extruded aluminum.
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>>81060122
dumb nigger
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Cable management is doing my nut in and I'm starting to get impatient. What's your process in hooking everything up?
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>>81060859
Yes, yes I am.
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>>81046879
I have a b450 motherboard, what's the max cpu it can run in it? I don't want to buy b550 this close to the end of am4 and the advent of ddr5.
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>>81060942
Your case can kinda limit how well you can cable manage, but some common sense and a few zip ties go a long way.
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>>81046879
Do I get some new 1TB TLC+DRAM SSD or do I go for a gently used Samsung PM963 enterprise drive for the same price?
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>>81061016
>Heavily used ssd
You should definitely go new. I got a dramless 1tb drive and it's completely fine. Just disable swap and use 32gb ram.
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>>81061092
You can find ones that aren't worked to death and they have a TBW of like 1300 anyway
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>>81061092
what does 32gb ram have to do with it
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>>81061214
Swap on a dramless ssd will wear it the fuck out.
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>>81061154
Fuck hunting, I want that fresh warranty.
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>>81046879
I found an old Windows XP machine, its got an AMD Sempron, 1.5GB of DDR1 Ram and 80GB of storage.
The VGA port looks like someone tried to disconnect it without unscrewing it and just tore the entire port off, so it's just sitting inside the case on the bottom, Its got 3 PCI slots and a AGP slot.
My plan is to install Windows 95 / 98 onto it, get an AGP card to use as the display output and use this machine as a MS Paint shitposting machine or as a retro game machine. What card should I look for and what are some other upgrades I should put in it.
I know its a shit setup, running only 1 core and 1 thread is fucking horrific but I suppose it should be enough for shitposting in Paint and trying out weird shit in Windows 95 / 98 (I haven't decided which one yet)
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Finally I have the last piece of the puzzle. Not going to lie though, I'm tempted to just resell it for a profit and try and buy another one.
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>>81060942
>he bought windowed

>>81061391
>DLSS.jpg
Just kidding, enjoy
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I managed to get my hands on a 2700x and I can't work this thing out, considering that I've been stuck with an old Sandy Bridge cpu for years. What maximum processor state do I set it to? if its on 100% it randomly boosts the fan to max and its fucking annoying, if its on 99% it stops but won't boost to high clocks, if I edit the power mode to best performance and 99% the voltages seem to stupidly spike up to 1.5v max and I doubt thats good, how do you set this thing to work optimally
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/mmo525/msi_releases_agesa_1202_bios_for_x570_b550

So the bios patch did absolutely fuck all for the USB issues and lots of people are still having the same exact fucking issues.
What the fuck AMD?
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All i want to say is fuck AMD I had a card in my cart today at step 2, it 503'd, i tried refreshing and then the server blocked me for refreshing.
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>installed mobo without io shield again
Why do I always fucking do this
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>>81061732
There were about 20 fresh drivers after Navi launched, all of them claiming to fix greenscreens, and you can guess how that ended
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>>81061712
you just have to learn to live with its behaviour that no major reviewer felt was necessary to point out
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>>81061712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ8zdprzEjI
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Looking at dell prebuilts. G4 or G5, whatever the call the builds targeted towards gaming. If I add a high end card will they delay my order?
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>>81061732
works on my machine
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>>81061995
>adding anything to a Dell prebuilt
large kusa
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>monthly payments are being offered for graphics cards
what kind of hell planet have we entered?
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>>81061997
Please post details then since there doesn't seem to be even a single soul that provided them that had it fixed by this.
Pretty fucking hard to take you serious if all you say is "works for me xdd".
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>>81062012
Elaborate please
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Why did Nvidia gimp the 3070 by giving it only 8GB's of VRAM? It's genuinely a good card but even midrange AMD cards have 12+GB's of VRAM now. Will the 3070 ti have more?
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I just bought an evga clc 240, what am I in for anons?

ps I know the fans are trash Im using BQ fans with it
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>>81062024
i updated to 1.2.0.2 and it fixed my usb cutting off all the time. dont use onboard sound so cant comment on that. not much else i can say
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>>81062114
disappointment and random fan rev noise unless you just plug the fans into the mobo
AIO was a mistake, return to air
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>>81047122
fucking trash piece of shit
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>>81061732
I usually avoid clicking virus links, but checked this. There's some posts saying the update fixed it, some who fixed it by setting OC > Advanced CPU Configuration > AMD CBS > Power Supply Idle Control > Typical Current Idle in the BIOS, 2 still having USB problems, 1 complaining vaguely and possibly didn't get it installed, and lots of people with boards that aren't on the list complaining about how they haven't gotten patches yet.

>>81062024
>I am a radiologist and we use the Nuance Speech Mic. I used it for two call days two weeks ago and it was miserable. Disconnects multiple times on EVERY case. Probably 1000 disconnects over two days. I applied the patch and dictated a bit the other day. No disconnects. So at first glance it appears this patch fixes my problems. Yay!
>So far it seems to have resolved the audio static/stuttering/clipping issues I was getting with my G6. Since applying this latest BIOS update and setting my 3090 to gen4 I have not experienced any issues. I used to be able to completely recreate it but now it seems to be working perfectly. /knock on wood
For the Typical Current Idle workaround:
>Um, that worked. All this trouble since December and this fixed the 7-14 error with the Reverb G2 using the rear USB C port. Thank you! Update: still have to disable PCIe 4 down to PCIe 3 for audio to work, but this is progress. I'm still using 1.2.0.0 as well (x570 Tomahawk)
>I’ve encountered the USB connectivity issue with my B450 Tomahawk Max and Ryzen 5600X with 1.2.0.0. I’ve fixed the issue in the BIOS, but they should still fix it themselves.
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>>81061930
Which is likely because reviewers don't actually live with the hardware they review
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What would give me better performance on VR, a GTX 970 or a GTX 1650 KO? i know both are worse than my P5000 but it will be busy doing something for 3-5 days in a row.
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>>81062370
>>81062370
>>81062370
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>>81062062
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IghcowGhRBc
nvidia doesn't want you to keep your card for >5 years
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>>81062676
there's literally nothing wrong with that. Consoles hold back game engine development, at least GPU manufacturers are actively pushing it forward
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looking for cpu that would
run a VM smoothly, even maybe 2 and not struggle much
and run most emulators (inc. rpsc3)
what should i focus on (one core power, num of cores, clockspeed..)
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>>81063589
5900x or 5600x depending on budget.



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