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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads and specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

Modern models:
>X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light
>T420/T430 - 14", 900p (1080p w/mod board), Ivy Bridge support on T420 w/coreboot, quad core upgrade possible, old keyboard swap on xx30 series
>T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quad core models
>T440s/T450(s)/T460(s)/T470(s) - ultraportables, good battery life
>T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last ThinkPads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)
>T480 - last "real" ThinkPad, battery bridge system, excellent performance/battery life, getting cheaper

Upgraded models:
>X210 - X200/X201, i5-8250U quad core
>X62/X63 - X61, i5-5250U
>T70 - T60, i7-7700HQ
IPS displays, USB 3.0, M.2 x4, MiniDP, no dock
https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=117

BIOS replacement:
https://coreboot.org
>Most models from xx30 series and older, X131e, X1 Carbon (1st Gen) & T440p

Additional resources:
https://biosimage.booru.org
https://1vyra.in

UEFI patches:
https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patches

Thinkpad discord:
https://discord.gg/Ybdz7AS

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>>81032109
>Order from eBay a week ago
>Seller rating 100%
>They still haven't shipped
How much longer do I have to wait
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>7 row keyboards
This is stupid. There are many useless keys that can be hidden and used with fn.
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>>81032534
>7 row keyboards are stupid, use fn instead
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>>81032652
Agreed, 7 row keyboards are stupid.
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>>81032494
I hate when sellers do this shit, whenever i sell anything i send it same day. Its complete bullshit tho its like
>if i knew youd take this long to ship i wouldn't have bought from you
ebay should have some sorta punishment in place for these cases
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thoughts on T15/T14 series?
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>>81032807
I intentionally wait a week to ship expensive things, then when I get a negative feedback I lie and blame it on health problems to make them feel bad and change it or look like the asshole that gave the cripple a bad feedback for being crippled.
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>>81032696
>use fn instead of 7 row keyboards
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>>81032534
>>81032696
The absolute state of /tpg/...
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>>81032817
don't bother with the intel version. just get the amd one.
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IPS screen for my 440p has been siting in Liege for a week now, lazy Belgians all took Easter off I'm sure.
Pulled the trigger on the broken laptop to salvage a i7-4712MQ, only need to get some thermal paste (was thinking Noctua NT-H1 based on a recent TomsHardware review, will see what is available at an acceptable price locally) and rubbing alcohol before it gets here.
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Opening my x220 to replace thermal paste. There's a card missing here right? What is it supposed to have?
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>>81033540
Talking out of my ass: WAN
Which is optional so it's not "supposed" to have it.
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>>81033540
>>81033551
Yup, WAN: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/videos/pd022687-wireless-wan-removal-movie-thinkpad-x220
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>>81033538
I got thermal grizzly kryonaut on my 4800MQ in my T440p, works great. Noctua NT-H1 should be fine.
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>>81033540
That screw in the pic won't budge, I've tried the rubber band trick and all my shitty screwdrivers, my actual set is at uni so idk what to do...
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>that feel when you touch your motherboard and you get static shocked
fuck i'm afraid to turn it on
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>>81034556
That's what you get for giving a shock to your system.
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I need advice.

I already have a X220 with 8GB RAM, 300GB HDD but it's too slow for my tasks. I found an offer for another ThinkPad:

W520
i7-2820QM
8GB RAM
1000GB HDD
Quatro 2000M
~190 USD

I could get 4GB RAM from my X200, sell my old thinkpad and add few bucks and get the W520 with combined 12GB of RAM. Anybody owns that thinkpad and can give me a quick rundown on it's performace?
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>>81034974
I'm retarded. I would take that ram from X220 not X200
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>>81033540
Instead of using a wan card, you can plug a msata storage there.
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Which BIOS should I flash my x220, 1.43?
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>>81032109
can i upgrade the screen from an e480 to a fhd one?
the e490 has the same dimensions and a fhd variant, so it should fit, i guess. but would it be compatible?
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Is tripcode kill?
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>check out laptops on jewtube
>the only thing people talk about is productivity and gaming
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>>81036746
This is him now:
>>81036758
Feel old yet?
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>>81032807
I had a guy send me an angry message that I didn't ship his item USPS the day after his purchase. he bought it on a Saturday at 8PM. he still left a bad review lol
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>>81036849
I've never left a good review. Excellent service gets neutrals, everyone else gets negatives. What are you going to do, refuse to sell to me? That's against the rules. :^)
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Having trouble setting up my fingerprint reader on a t470 in debian. I'm following this guide:

https://brod.co/articles/enabling-the-fingerprint-reader-on-a-thinkpad-t470-in-fedora-31

The trouble I run into is with the windows 10 vm part. I enabled usb passthrough and installed the windows driver for the fingerprint reader on the virtual machine in Vbox. The device shows up in the USB settings menu (the one from the VitrtualBox windowed mode footer). But If I click on the checkbox to enable it, it disables itself almost immediately (I actually hear the windows device plugged/unplugged sound).

What am I doing wrong? (apart from not installing gentoo)
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>>81035360
Is it worth getting one of these?
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>>81035673
PLS RESPONG
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>>81037264
msata drives can be as expensive as 2.5" SSDs brand new and they use sata 2 instead of 3. If you can find them for super cheap then sure. I
bought one for like 15 bucks but it's only 64gb and I mainly use it to install odd ball stuff separate from my daily driver Fedora installation
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>>81037443
what difference does it make, lol
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>>81037134
Jesus christ, getting basic functionality from your hardware is a nightmare in linux.
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>>81037443
>>81035673
why don't you just flash the 1.46 modded bios?
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>>81037532
it works out of the box in ubuntu
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>>81037504
Okay, thank you.
Maybe I get one of these if I find a decent one for cheap.
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I'm looking to buy an x200 or x220, but here in europe I can only find versions with ISO keyboards, is it possible to switch the keyboard out for an ANSI usa keyboard, or is it incompatible?
Is using keyboard stickers on an x200 a sacrilege?
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>>81037544
will it have specter and meltdown mitigations? Should I even worry about that?
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>>81037620
it does
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Im a complete outsider to thinkpad upgrading but have always wondered, do you guys use actual graphic cards or ones built in with processors?
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>>81034974
get a w530 instead, it runs cooler and has better battery. you can replace the keyboard with a mod
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>>81037606
>is it possible to switch the keyboard out for an ANSI usa keyboard
yes
>Is using keyboard stickers ... sacrilege?
not really
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>>81038956
Thanks!
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does this mean it has a second internal battery for swapping the external?
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>>81038268
I don't really care for the keyboard but I found a W530 for 390USD. The only problem is that it has a 1366x768 resolution. It that really possible. Seems kinda low with 15,9" display
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>>81037777
Onboard CPU graphics or soldered GPUs, mostly. ThinkPads didn't make much use of the MXM socket, unlike Dell and HP.
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>/tpg/
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>>81037620
Yes, it will. Just don't let your operating system load the latest microcode at boot, disable mitigations and you'll be good.
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>>81039930
thanks. I'm a brainlet, should I coreboot?
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>>81039981
If you have something you can use as an SPI flasher and absolutely want free firmware, sure. If you just want to remove the wireless card whitelist, use 1866MHz memory, run macOS or get additional options, just flash the modified BIOS.
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Anyone put a i7-940XM in a ThinkPad W510? I got one from China off eBay and the system does not post with it at all. Could it be a BIOS lock? Stock chip is back in it for now.
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rec me a good, full sized keyboard laptop, 17 inch minimum, I really need it for statistics and charts.

4-5k range, looking at Dell Precision 7730, should I pull the trigger bros?
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>>81040482
Precision, P series thinkpads, they all work fine
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>>81040516
thanks
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My t440p has an internet connection dropping problem, I see a lot of people expeirnce this.. My other laptops internet work fine but my 440p drops its connection every hour or less..

Anyone run into this before?
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>>81040038
Thanks
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>>81036746
i wanna kill his ass with my cock
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XPS 15 9500 vs Thinkpad X1 Extreme (Gen 3)

which one?
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Hey guys I have an X230, which is pretty beat up

>some random keys on the board don't work
>seems like it has an internal problem (some random horrible sounding whirring from time to time.

Keep in mind that I have no experience in fixing computers would it be difficult to fix this?
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>>81041744
Buy new keyboard - they are very easy to replace. Look up videos online.
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>>81039173
Yes, the T400, T500, W500, and T400s-T430s all support 3 cell ultrabay batteries, they aren't all that good, and they are by default drained first so they often have tons of cycles on them.
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>>81042137
This does not have that it have a cd drive
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>>81042245
are you sure? must be a funky glitch with windows, there isn't an internal battery on the t400.
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is there a single laptop or thinkpad made within the last 5 years that doesn't have a crappy flat keyboard? Something like the t60 keyboard where the keys are kind of sloped out.
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>>81040594
yeah my t440p also having random wifi drops (but its rare enough to not bother me too much)

>>81041661
i'd say xps but make sure you understand what you're buying (there are qc issues, most common ones are wobly trackpad and speaker distortion on high volume). trackpad is diy fixable but sound is not
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Okay /tpg/ why should I buy a thinkpad for gaming? Which models would you recommend?
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can someone ID this hp lappy? I'm assuming it's an elitebook but it didn't have any name on it.
>>81042659
you shouldnt
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has anyone re-celled thinkpad batteries? I wanna re-cell an 81+ 6 cell battery with some 3600mAh cells to give me ~80Wh of capacity for my t430s
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>>81042659
IMO you really shouldn't. There are videos of people playing on old T430s and even T420s and performance is about what you would expect from a 10+ year old laptop. It can play CSGO on low settings and minecraft with optifine on low settings but not much beyond that. If you want gaming get a desktop or if you're a poorfag get a ga(y)ming laptop.
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My thinkpad carbon (6th gen, i5) just arrived, would it run faster if I installed windows 8.1 on it instead of windows 10 which it has now?
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>>81043006
Not really. Try getting Windows 10 LTSC from the friendly windows thread.
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>>81039460
The W530 goes as low as 1366 panelwise, I can only assume it'll look like rancid dogshit at that size though, but I've got a W530 with the nice 1920x1080 panel so I don't get to know such evils.
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>>81043006
There's not w8 drivers anyway so no
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>>81043057
>Windows 10 LTSC
>>81043133
Thanks, also I really like using the mouse nipple thing, I've never had a laptop with one so I'm wondering if I'm only going to ruin or wear down the sensor if I use the nipple exclusively
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>>81042734
looks like this:
>https://notebooks.com/2011/02/21/hp-elitebook-2740p-review-12-convertible-tablet-for-business-users/
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Is there a way I can increase the mouse nipple's sensitivity past the maximum setting on my 6th gen thinkpad carbon? I just got this thing and I prefer using the nipple, will the sensor wear out after a while?
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>>81042659
You shouldn't, but if you're going to do so anyway you're going to want to familiarize yourself with your options for GPU-equipped models and which Quadro chips equate to which GeForce chips.

And even then, this is probably the worst way to go about sourcing gaymen hardware, Thinkpads with GPUs are meant more for the development/creation side of graphics wizardry, not the real time playing side.
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Is there any models out there that will run something like Android Studio decently? The most I'd pay is $600 but at that point I feel like I could just find a new laptop for that price that will do fine.
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>>81036509
an i7 8550u+16gb RAM, radeon rx 550 2gb, m.2 ssd+sata ssd and a FHD screen would be the perfect notebook?
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>>81037601
They either don't work at all, or only some makes/models work. Someone said you could do it so I got a 128gb one that wouldn't work, and I got called a faggot when I asked for help in the general
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>>81041623
His bf beat you to the punch
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Anyone running popOS? I have a x1 Carbon 6th gen kinda thinking about running Linux on it just wanted to see if anyone is running it atm
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Do they not sell slice batteries anymore?
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>>81047476
Isn't popOS literally just ubuntu?
https://streamable.com/9zkidj
>>81042876
Open the plastic casing first.
You'll need to connect the newly purchased cells in series with a resistor to balance the voltage. Leave overnight then solder the new cells in parallel with the old cells then remove the old cells. This is to prevent tripping a fuse on the controller. Finally flash the controller if you used higher capacity cells as otherwise your OS will report the wrong battery level.
>>81047916
not for models past T440p iirc
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Is it safe to buy shit off of ebay? I'm kinda worried about buying a laptop and then having to return it because of a single dead pixel or some kind of hardware issue that's hard to reproduce without using it intensively
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>>81032534
the PgUp button being above the PgDn button has improved my experience a lot, also the Esc button being 2 rows tall is great
fuck you
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>>81048734
there are plenty of refurbishing sellers on ebay with an extensive history of buyer feedback. Just check the feedback. Otherwise, you can always try your luck at an office recycling center in your area as those are typically also ebay sellers and you can see the machine in person
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Hi there boys
Where can I get a floppy drive for one of these bad boys? think I can get debian installed on it?
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>>81048734
dead pixels resolve themselves 100% of the time. i hate people like you who waste people's money and time returning expensive items because you can't wait a couple months for it to go away.
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installing a new touchpad cover on a X220 without replacing the whole palmrest or even the buttons: yay or nay? how difficult is it?
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>>81048882
>installing a new touchpad cover
it's just going to get glossed over and gross looking again in short order. put a sticker over it, you can buy the ones they make for t520s and t420s and just cut them to fit.
if you insist on replacing it though, it's not tough at all once you get the palmrest off.
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>>81048734
I've never had very bad problems buying things used off of ebay, but I'm the kind of guy who buys something broken and tries to fix it. Chances are if you have some problem that takes months to come up or isn't noticable right away, it's about as likely to happen on a brand new device.
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>>81048895
well it wasn't me who wore out the dotted texture but the previous owner, I rarely use the touchpad
>it's not tough at all once you get the palmrest off.
thank you
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>>81048849
t. ebay garbage seller
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>>81048734
I'm quite sure the seller I bought my pad from didn't spend more than 5 minutes testing it out before selling (fortunately the product was great). Sure, things like dead pixels might go unnoticed all the times but it's not like it's inherently worse on eBay than other places, quite the opposite I'd say. Buyers reviews are quite helpful. Stick by the usual rules: prefer sellers who put high res photos, detailed descriptions, have good reputation etc.
>>81049024
lol
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>>81032109
offtopic but
>that fireplace
you are one cozy motherfucker, ain't you
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>>81049205
it looks like one of those fake ones that just light up and spit out hot air, but any night in with a riced retro thinkpad is a good one.
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>>81049230
>it looks like one of those fake ones that just light up and spit out hot air
It's a real flame, the picture just looks shit. gas not wood unfortunatly tho.
I have some better pictures
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>>81049300
>>81049205
>you are one cozy motherfucker, ain't you
yes
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>>81049300
is that a G40? nigger you've got me mad jealous.
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>>81049312
>is that a G40?
yea, I have 7 of them not including parts.
Not the best thinkpad but definitly my favorite.
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>>81049354
sell me presicly 1 (one) of those.
how much would you do for your shittiest working one?
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>>81032109
Laptops are still extremely useful and much better at multitasking but how the hell do you deal with the shitty screens? Cheap tablets and phones have screens that are light years ahead of laptops, it actually hurts my eyes going from one to the other
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>>81049660
By getting one with a good screen?
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Any tips on self repair? I have a palmrest for a X250 coming in because my touchpad got fucked. I've read the service manual thrice and watched 4 different disassembly videos.
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i seen 2 thinkpads for $8 at the thrift store yesterday but they were windows XP and dirty as fuck, didn't bother to buy them, should I go back and get them today or not worth it?
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>>81049300
very nice
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>>81049660
OLED screens (what they put in phones) are much easier to manufacture in small sizes and therefore much cheaper than the big ones that you would put into a laptop. If you really want OLED in a laptop you can get them, just expect to pay a pretty penny. Not sure about availability in thinkpads tho, usually businesses don't care about the screens very much.
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>>81050048
Yes
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>>81033540
Based retard
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>>81041623
>i wanna kill his ass with my cock
Based faggot
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>>81050048
dude it's 8 dollars i can pay for them if you want
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>>81037532
This is a true statement of you’re a retard, retard.
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>>81050493
its the fact that it had dirt on the keyboards so idk if they'll even work lol
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just ordered my first thinkpads

T400, P8600, 2x2GB, WXGA+ LED
T400, P8700, 2x2GB, WXGA LED
T61, T9300, 3GB, Intel Board, 14" XGA

what am i in for?
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>>81050734
Old hardware that serves no purpose in 2021 other than nostalgia.
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>>81050839
in what way? my office desktop has similar specs and is perfectly usable
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>>81050734
why did you order two of the same model?
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>>81050976
one is for me mom
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>>81050999
Thanks for the 13 year old computer, son. I look forward to taking 10 minutes to load up internet explorer
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>>81051072
I have that same CPU on my X200, and with a lightweight Linux distro, it'll handle web browsing and streaming just fine.
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>>81051072
if it's that bad i can still donate it to the local activity centre as DMX controller and Music Player but i'm quite optimistic
it's an upgrade from her previous machine spec-wise and she never complained
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>>81049311
Out of curiosity, how long did it take to load that image in irfanview.
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>>81046471
i'll just fuck him too.
i'm a fag.
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where to buy x230 case?
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What laptop would you get your girlfriend if you had one?
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>>81051355
i'm a tranny and i have an x260.
if they're autismo just get them an x series thinkpad :)
if they dont care about tech it's either cheap acer trash or a macbook.
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>>81036746
No her website is still up, just not taking order
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>>81051355
T480s. It's the best laptop I've ever used. I think people who say new thinkpads are shit haven't actually used them.
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>>81051355
i got my gf a m1 macbook air for xmas. shes in her early 20s and super hot btw
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>>81041623
Why have this much cognitive dissonance? Is it not just easier to call her a woman?
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>>81051586
Because it's not good to glorify mental illness.
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My retard cat just pissed on the left corner of my T60, right where the top left hinge is.
It left a 1x1 cm drop on the top left corner.
The heatsink vent (both side and rear ports) smell like piss.
It seems to have dripped outside the case, the keyboard is unaffected. It dripped down and the top left rubber foot was in a tiny (5x5cm) pool of piss.
Now I'm afraid to turn on my PIsspad.
Should I turn it on first or full dissassembly.
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>>81051897
blast the cat piss out with human piss. at least human piss won't give you brain-eating parasites.
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>>81051897
n-no more piss pls.
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>>81051909
Meant for you:>>81051970

I'm not trolling, I'm the current owner of a literal Pisspad.
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>>81051987
Cats are disgusting creatures. I wasn't joking about the brain parasites either. Power wash the Pisspad and have your cat put down.
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>>81052011
>have your cat put down.
I love my retard cat. No way.
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>>81051586
tripcode isnt trans
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>>81034974
Seems pretty good. The performance is gonna be pretty much what you except. Dont except anything from the quadro though especially on linux its gonna be shit. Maybe it can be useful for some CUDA stuff but i would personally disable it. Also consider coreboot. You can put in ivybridge cpu's with 4c/8t and since its a smaller lithography its gonna run cooler and better. Also you can overclock ram if you're into that kind of thing.
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what's the best possible ssd for a laptop? i hear pcie and pcie nvme and nvme and m.2 nvme and some don't even state which one it is, just "ssd"

what should i be looking for?
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>>81052124
well first of all you have to check what drives your laptop can even take. not every laptop has a nvme slot, etc. most older ones have a 2.5" ssd slot.
google can help you figuring out the differences between a nvme , m.2 and sata ssd
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>>81052203
Google's so pozzed that I have to look through 20 different websites to get a clear answer.
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>>81052268
no i think you are just retarded
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>>81052274
Google it yourself, retard. It's nothing but advertising brands with no actual information unless you want to sift through an entire article.
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>>81052286
>unless you want to sift through an entire article.
??? isnt that what you want to do? Get information about different technologies? Watch a fucking YT video about it then. I'm sure Linus Tech Tips got you covered you mentally ill zoomer.
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>>81051897
>full disassembly
I’ve done this for less
I think you should do it too
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>>81052286
Not him but... You have to phrase your queries precisely with any search engine. The better the query the better the results.
In your case I would query:
>{model name} hardware maintenance manual filetype:pdf
This gets you the actual hardware maintenance manual which has all the data you need.
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>>81052315
Yeah I guess I have no choice. Dissassembling my Pisspad now.
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>>81051390
"She" hasn't posted anything since the Texas ice storm :(
I start to worry about tripkunk
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>>81052011
Cats are great pets, they just need to be kept outdoors. People who keep them indoors are just asking for problems.
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>>81052420
Isn't she British though? How would that make a difference?
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>>81052421
my cat can go in and out when she pleases and she never felt the need to do the deed indoors
she'll attack the furniture sometimes but that's ok
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>>81052543
What? No she's near Austin Texas. What makes you think she's british? She has a pretty clear US / Texan accent
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>>81052624
He looks like Paki Chan.
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>>81052624
I don't think so considering minifree is UK based and she runs this website https://transit.org.uk/
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>>81052765
You're getting Leah mixed up with Tripcode.
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what is the best possible CPU upgrade I can do for my T440p?
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what's the most future proof / up-to-date thinkpad for someone who likes good computers and also wants something i can keep upgrading for many years to come?
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>>81051349
aliexpress for everything
>>81051273
maybe 3~5 seconds. That's with the image scaled down to be within the sceen resolution.
larger images can take over 10s to load.
>>81050272
ty
>>81049644
>how much would you do for your shittiest working one?
honestly speaking i'd part with one for just $45 but shipping this fucker is too much of a hassle for me to bother with anything other then a local buyer.
They do come up occasionally on ebay now and then. prices are all over the place but shipping costs will probly double that.
>>81049860
>Any tips
hope that you don't have leftover screws at the end
>>81048823
>Where can I get a floppy drive for one of these bad boys?
you need the correct cable connector and the floppy drive.
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Floppy_Connector#701
then a 21mm drive
>>81053356
>best possible CPU
pic related
for many reasons i don't recommend it tho, maybe unless you pair it with the dual pipe dual fan mod and keep a fire extinguisher next to you.
>>81053409
>most future proof / up-to-date thinkpad
T14 amd or one of the varients
>something i can keep upgrading for many years to come?
most things like cpu will be soldered down so there's a much bigger cap compared to something like the T440p.
you can still change storage, battery, etc. but fundamentally your hardware will remain stagnant
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>>81036746
>>81052420
>>81052543
That's dude, man.
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>>81052765
retard, watch any of his videos when he speaks. He's American. I think San Antonio, TX.
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is this a good clip for flashing coreboot? it seems to have good reviews and looks like the pomona ones
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32300047786.html?
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>>81054005
no, you should only buy a genuine pomona clip
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>>81054024
do you have a link to a good one?
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Not long bought a x240 to replace my Macbook. Is there a way to lessen the action on the mousepad left/right click or make it more sensitive. The amount you have to depress it is too much.
Thanks, chaps.
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>>81054401
Clicking action on thinkpad trackpads is dogshit. I'd recommend just using tap to click.
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>>81054465
he got the X240 so he deserves it
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>>81054465
Thanks mate, I've been doing that, my gripe with it is when trying to select a section of text, like pic related. It can be hit or miss.

>>81054478
Hey, you cheeky bugger!
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>>81048710
>Finally flash the controller
I should have the gear to flash the controller, I thought the calibration could be done by the OS but it makes sense to flash since the battery reports capacity too, do you know where I can find the flash? does the discord have it?
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>>81054024
Why? There's many people that did it with knock off ones, for example:
https://invidious.xyz/watch?v=ktcvWkEVBE0
https://mikini.dk/2019/06/librebooting-an-x200-using-a-ch341a-based-programmer

Cable length seems to be more important.
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>>81054784
of course the cheap ones will usually work ok, but they have a greater chance of not working compared to the pomona clips
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I think I messed up with my keyboard. If the blue thing fell down it's over?
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>>81036746
Who's that? They're pretty cute.
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how does /tpg/ deal with oxygen deterioration? plastics and the hardware slowly getting weaker and weaker until it crumbles.
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>>81051586
Trip is just a femboy
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>>81054779
For a different thinkpad battery pack but i think it should be the same process.
https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=124273
>>81055187
If you're worried you can store/seal your thinkpad within an inert gas like nitrogen. that way your thinkpad won't come into contact with the oxygen in the atmosphere and subsequently deteriorate.
>>81054922
>If the blue thing fell down it's over?
?
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I'm looking for a new mobile workstation.

I need something not too big but still powerful which is why I'm considering getting a P14s.

Anybody used such machine for software development? (vsstudio) and also does that one works with old docks or only shitty usb-c docks?
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>>81055486
I would recommend a p53 anon the p14 is somewhat of a downgrade in the hardware department, they've sizeably reduced the roll cage as part of their efforts to be more environmentally conscious (magnesium) and have mixed the fiberglass construction with hard plastic. It just doesn't feel as solid.
That being said it does use newer generation of processors that is marginally faster
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>>81051897
Pisspad anon here.
I cleaned up the T60 from pee. It's running smooth.
>>81052315
Thanks for your advice anon, took a few hours but worth it.

I'm trying to restore this old T60. Now i ran into a problem. The old HDD is shot, it's a 2.5 SATA HDD that was probably stock with the T60.
Now I pulled a 2.5 drive from a newer thinkpad and it won't recognize it. On further inspection it's got four extra pins on the side. I tried switching AHCI to Compatibility mode in the BIOS but no luck.
Anyone know how to get this HDD working?
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>>81055658
Based Queen
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Opinions on the L14 Gen 1 AMD? In particular, the version I'm looking at has a Ryzen 5 Pro 4650U, 8GB of RAM, and a FHD display 250 nits. Is there any significance difference with the T14 in terms of build quality? Specwise it doesn't appear to be much different, and I'll be using it mainly at home. Worth it? Or should I put up the exstra money for the T14?
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>>81056240
Pretty sure its the new thinkpad edge. Expect poorer build quality all around. If it works for you though and you dont drop it go nuts.
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>>81042245
Why not just yank the battery out and see if it stays on and drains just 1 of 2 batteries
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>>81052044
Sorry bro, just being a dick. Be sure to give your cat some love and kitty treats.
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>>81055486
Forgot to mention I'd pick the AMD version not the Intel one. Any downsides for software development?
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Which one should I choose. Leaning towards the first option. X220 chokes and dies when I launch Android Studio while tinkering with Xamarin and the drivers for OpenGL on Win10 are nonexistant (using Mesa3D as replacement).
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I have around 1000 euro. What's the best thing I can get?
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So I picked up an old thinkpad today and took a look under the hood. I have to say it seems to be of a good quality.
Redpill me on libreboot and coreboot please.
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>>81032109
Can the Left FN and Control keys be swapped on the T60 in the bios?
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are there any reputable after market battery brands? the last one i blind bought off ebay has been utter crap
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>>81041661
Should we expect X1E Gen 4 to come soon this year? I assume it would have 16:10 as well?
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why are all the new thinkpads dropping the microsd slot?
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>>81056899
Physical media of all kinds is dying
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what do you guys think of the t450s?
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Toasting in an epic bread.
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>got an x200 for around $120 last year
>thought it was already kinda overpriced but that's what I get for being late to the party
>x200 now goes for $200 and even the less powerful x200t is not $120-$170
holy fuck I never thought it would get this bad.
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>>81057401
*is now $120-170
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>>81057234
It was the best cheap thinkpad for quite a while
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>>81048734
I've had pretty good experiences with ebay sellers. Just check that they have lots of good feedback and you'll be fine.
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>>81056849
kingsener
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can I flash an x230 using an rpi zero? I've heard people say that it worked for them but also that it couldn't draw enough power, but I don't have much need for an rpi and would only be using it as a pihole so I donnt wantt to spend more money than needed.
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>>81056899
It's not really a critical necessity on a laptop of all devices, and on the off chance the world might come to an end unless you can read a file off a microsd card then there's a shitzillion ways to connect a card reader.
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>>81051355
my ex GF got a p1 at my recommendation, my ex before that used my x230t
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>>81055711
those 4 pins don't do anything, they're for programming the firmware at the factory, is the new HDD DOA? is it compatible anyway? what drives are you using?
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>>81051355
i refuse to date anybody who doesnt take steps to remove themself from the botnet. my bf got an asus c201 with higher ram and storage, I corebooted it for him and installed mint and he's happy with it. he also got a pixel 3 and I installed lineageos with gapps. he's pretty feminine and that factored into his choices of tech so if I had a gf id suggest the same.
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I'm looking to buy a mobile workstation but not a huge one, something I could travel with so P14S seems to be the best candidate.

I saw that the AMD version was much faster and efficient than the i7 version but I'm wondering: is there any downsides of using AMD for doing software development? I basically do C# in Visual Studio and work on embedded systems at the moment.

I just want to make sure I won't want to throw it by the window a hour after receiving it. I'm so tired of swapping machines.

I read good stuff about it. I don't mind the newer keyboard or feebler construction. I want it to WORK, be EFFICIENT and not to crash every day. Simple stuff, but other manufacturers are so fucking clueless atm it seems nobody can build a premium machine that WORKS.

Any advice? I'm open for suggestions but the point of the thread is to talk about the P14s

Also extra question: does that laptop support old docks? I have a T570 here with a dock, could I re-use that same dock? Or do I need to use an USB-C one? that would SUCK though. I fucking HATE USB-C docks.
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>>81058889
newer thinkpads don't support old docks. the best you could do would be creating a dock yourself that physically fits the laptop and holds the usb c dock in place, with a cable just long enough to plug in while docked.
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>>81056390
Good to know. Thanks anon.
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>>81056698
No.
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what do peopledo with pic related? so far I've only seen 3 things
>m.2 drive
>usb ports
>sd card or tool storage
anything I'm missing?
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>>81058469
The new drive works in an external USB enclosure. It's a SATA HDD drive.
I can neither recognize it in the BIOS or booting into Ubuntu.
It did get dropped at one point (which is how the original drive got damaged, but it occasionally recognizes that drive), so I'm starting to think it's the connector to the motherboard. I may have to get one of those DVD SATA enclosures, or replace the MOBO.
Thanks for the help anon!
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I want to fall for the thinkpad meme but I'm not sure which one I should go for. I want to be able to use it to compile c++ projects and run emacs on it.
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>>81055098
That's Trip-kun he makes comfy ThinkPad videos. >-< I want a Trip-kun bf

https://youtu.be/qBzjh_vkOgs
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>>81059270
wireless card maybe
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>>81056698
I think therez a bios mod for that.
>>81059270
theres the gdc beast, it hooks up through expresscard and adapts it to a full sized pci-e connector for gpus and shit. I used that for the longest time with my t530 and a gtx970. you can use it with shit other than graphics cards too.
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>>81032109
i'm living a little dilemma
there's a guy selling an e480 [i7 8550u+8gb+2gb rx 550+240gb m.2 ssd]
and other guy selling an L380 [i5 8250u+8gb+120gb] - obviously cheaper

the i7 probably runs hotter, because of the higher frequency, but obviously is a bit faster.
with the price difference i can put 16gb in the cheaper one [something that i will eventually do on the i7 one]
the seller of the i7 one says that its battery is lasting more than 7hours "watching netflix"
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>>81037264
if you really need the extra storage
had one in a t420 and it does get hot 55c
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i hate using my ThinkPad. battery lasts like 15 minutes and the trackpad is shit

a replacement battery costs more than the fucking thing too.
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What are the last generation to work with old docks? I fucking hate USB-C docks and would rather buy an old Thinkpad just to use the old docks. Also I need a similar laptop to the P14s in term of form factor also the more performance the better. Any suggestions?
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Kiddo stepped on the screen of my t440s. Can someone recommend a screen and place to buy it? Would like to upgrade to 1080p IPS.
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>>81061534
what model anon? if you get your money out of it then its worth it.
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>>81061722
one of the AUOB140HAN01 models.
aliexpress
>>81061653
>What are the last generation to work with old docks?
what dock?
>>81061032
>E/L series
personally i woundn't spend anything on either of them but if i was forced i guess the L480.
>>81059395
T480
>>81059270
TV Tuner
SSD
NVME adaptor (https://thinkmods.store/collections/all-mods/products/expresscard-to-nvme-adapter)
USB adaptor (https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=127819)
eGPU
firewire
PCIe slots
SAS
Mouse
eSATA
CF card adaptor
serial/parallel port
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>>8106234
i guess i'll go with the E. i couldn't find batteries for the L, and a screen upgrade is not possible(at least i couldn't find no FHD display that could fit).
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>>81062438
>>81062346
quoted wrong.
but why wouldn't you spend money on an E or L series? their build quality is still way better than any asus/acer/sony shit
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So trannies, I found my chinkpad that I was fixing up ~5 or so years ago. T61 with t5100 or something and 2 gigs of ram. Should I genuinely fix it up? I already have a main machine, I think this will make a nice shit posting computer.

Parts needed:
Hdd/ssd
Screen
Battery
Keyboard
Hopefully more ram

Is it worth it? I'm not selling it for parts, it werks.
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T14 vs T14s vs P14s?

WHICH ONE FFS HALP
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>>81062807
What do you want out of a laptop anon? it depends.
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>>81036746
Did Trapcode really die during the winter storm in Texas?
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>>81058889
dis
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HP EliteBooks any good? I like the aluminum build looks better than the plastic stuff.
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I found a T400 for 91 dollars, should I buy it anons?
CPU -> core2 T9400
RAM -> 4gigs
looks clean, I couldn't find any cracks.
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>>81064808
forgot to say, there is no shipment cost.
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are the trackpoint buttons supposed to be spongy?
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>>81052103
expect* retard
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>>81061534
>a replacement battery costs more than the fucking thing too.
should have bought a nicer thinkpad and stop being so poor.
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a bird just wrapped a scarf around my thinkpad. what the fuck?
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>>81066608
>>>/a/
back you go
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>>81066665
/g/ is just upside-down /a/.
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>>81066678
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>>81064808
Sounds like a good deal plus you can coreboot it.
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>>81066925
thanx fren
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>>81066608
Check your %PATH%s son.
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What's the benefit of libreboot?
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>>81067177
If you're wanting to use a 5 year out-of-date, buggy build of coreboot, then it would be beneficial. Otherwise you should use coreboot.
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>>81067196
What's the benefit of Coreboot?
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>>81067216
It's an open source BIOS replacement that removes the Intel and Lenovo spyware.
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Is a t440p i5-4210M with 8GB ram and 500gb hdd with backlight a good deal in good condition for £250
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>>81067236
Nice. Can you flash your SPI chip with an Orange Pizza (or any old ARM SBC with a GPIO header)?
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>>81067249
during these times I think it is fair but maybe not a great deal. The cheapest laptops you will get with similar specs would probably be more than $350USD new, but that's without the resilient hardware. You would also probably want to upgrade that HDD to an SSD so you may want to consider those extra ~£20 for a cheap SSD
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>>81067283
You should be able to. I used a CH341A which is a little bit more simple to setup.
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Views on thinkpad X230i? i can buy it for 220euros, intel i3, 4RAM, 320HDD, no optical drive, refurbished.
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>>81067360
seems a bit pricey for an i3 x230 and not even an ssd
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>>81067342
I don't mind the learning experience and have some SBCs lying around already, so I just need those clamps. Can you get those in any electronics store?
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>>81067456
true. do you know if I can update to 8RAM?
how's x230i generally speaking? is it worth for less than 200euros?
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>>81067360
thinkpad something i
into the trash it goes
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>>81067465
You'll need either a Pomona 5250 or 5252 clip depending on whether the BIOS has an 8-pin or 16-pin SPI.
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>>81067543
okay. how so? any particular reason or smth i should look out for?
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>>81067566
Thanks.
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>>81067572
They all look the same (e.g. x230 - x230i) but they are generally weaker inside. I think it just doesn't worth buying, but it is my opinion (shrug)
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>>81067534
>do you know if I can update to 8RAM?
yes but he probly did the smart move (for him) and got you 2x2gb sticks so you'll need to buy 2x4gb sticks which will set you back a bit extra.
>how's x230i generally speaking?
see >>81067543
>is it worth for less than 200euros?
imo you're paying triple price.
>>81067105
more importantly, it's a sign that he needs to leave his window open
>>81065148
depends on the keyboard
>>81062466
>Is it worth it?
no because it's a T61 wsxga unless you have a personal interest.
>>81062461
>their build quality is still way better than any asus/acer/sony shit
not really, since they were designed to compete with them directly a enough corners were cut so that exen tho the outside looks like a buisness laptop the internals and overall quality is pretty much just about acer shit level.
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>>81067534
>>81067534
yes, those have two dim slots but if yours comes with 4gb of ram it may have one stick or two 2gb sticks. Thing is, if it is 2gb sticks and you want to upgrade to 8 then now you have to purchase 1 8gb or 2 4gb sticks which can be another 20 to 40 USD for example. I think you can do better somewhere like ebay A quick search brought up an x230 (not the i) with an i5, 8gb of ram and an SSD for about the same price.
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>>81067661
anon can you look at >>81064808
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>>81067720
another anon already gave an answer right?
anyway the price is average. the no cost shipping is what makes it more tempting personally.
not sure what else you'd want me to add
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>>81067640
>>81067661
got it, thanks
>>81067701
got it. my problem is that ebay ships to europe with a lot of expenses + possible extra expenses at the boarder. i used to buy from UK (on ebay) but now even UK is a no go.
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>>81067751
where are you from. typically in europe it might be worth a look to find a private seller on thinkpadforums or thinkpad-forum.de if you live in germany
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>>81067787
greece. i can find some refurbished deals, and there's also a nice forum with some occasional good deals.
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>>81067823
considering it's Greece you might not have access to such good deals as the UK so it might be as good of a deal as you will find. The i3 is not too bad but it may be a good idea to look for forums for your area or maybe buy it off of someone in another country in the schengen area if that'll make shipping cheaper. If that x230i is coming from a private seller and looks in good condition and you absolutely need a cheap laptop I'd go for it. I too come from a country with expensive electronics and would happily put up with an i3 third gen to get through college.
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>>81067898
okay. I've also found an X240 with i5 4RAM 500HDD. i don't mind the HDD, but I'd like to upgrade to 8RAM. 240euros. what do you think about that? I want to use it as backup laptop, maybe try experimenting on it, try writing drivers or other low-level without worrying about ruining my system.
I wish I could buy from uk. it has some sweet deals indeed.
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I have Thinkpad X1 Extreme gen1 and I was wondering if i can replace my screen matrix to glossy one. On the internet I did not find any valid information. What do you think?
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>>81067948
considering the 20 euro difference that sounds good going from an i3 to an i5. If it's for tinkering then at that point it depends on how much power you want. I'd go with the x240 but I've never used one from that gen so I'd like to see what others have to say about it
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>>81068234
okay, thanks
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I'm loving the T500. The ATI 3650 Mobility HD is beast for old games.
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yo, I have a corebooted T400 but I can't seem to put a bootsplash image
I mean, it works if the image is 640x360 or 1024x768 but it gets discolored and it doesn't cover the screen
also, the T400 is 1440x900
the VGA Options ROM doesn't work, so I'm using libgfxinit
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>>81056240
>Is there any significance difference with the T14 in terms of build quality?
That is one of the most significant differences; better materials and construction with the T14, but the L14 has been an improved departure from previous T-series models.

The other one is the L14 has two DIMMs whereas the T14 has one and one soldered RAM stick and one DIMM. So you can max the T14 at 48 but the L14 at 64.

If 48GB of RAM isn't enough for you I can't help you. Considering I've been hunky-dory with 16GB for years I doubt I'll be hurting for more than 48GB anytime before I end up buying another laptop anyway.

Otherwise it's pretty much slightly worse in most categories:
>Ports
>Screen
>Battery
>Battery life
>Weight
>Dimensions

Wouldn't call it the poor man's T14, that would be the E14 (which offers slightly inferior AMD CPUs), but it's the wannabe T14. I am waiting on my T14 I ordered during their annual March sale using the Coke link and came out to round about $917 after tax ($848 before):
>Ryzen 5
>Low power 400n screen
>16GB onboard only

Everything else was stock/lowest spec. I can add memory cheaper than what they offer and upgrade the storage if I need to but I really don't use much. I am at 112GB used as is on this machine and haven't managed my storage at all. I could probably uninstall and delete stuff and get well under 100. That's me though. The L14 can be upgraded as well.

If you are willing to wait and are in the US sign up for their newsletter, they will likely have another sale on Memorial Day or Independence Day. Be prepared to wait even more if you build one; mine is currently expected to arrive just shy of two months from when I ordered it. It was further out and every now and then they update it to be a little sooner so hopefully it'll be sooner still.
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>>81069499
well first thing is did you save the image correctly?
have you tried manually attaching the image?
try messing with the options in the ncurses menu a bit more, i remember it took me about 12 flashes to get the image to display correctly.
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I'm currently replacing the TN display in my T440. I'm installing a FHD IPS and when the laptop is wide 1800 open with the new screen inside and plugged BUT NOT secured by any of the four screws, the screen works fine. But as soon as I tight even one screw, the display starts to change brightnes randomly by small amount. I've noticed, that it is very prone to being even slightly bent.
Also, the bottom part of the display - the one masked with black tape and with the port gets ridiculously hot.
Any solutions?
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>>81069720
on qemu the image works perfectly
how do I manually attach it?
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>>81067577
also some thinkpads have hardware whitelists (no 3rd party batteries on the x230 for example) that coreboot removes, although that specific thing can also be removed with 1vyrain that doesnt need external flashing
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>>81069803
Sell it and get a m1 macbook air 256/8 only $1000
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Regarding an IBM thinkpad R50e
Can I replace the 40gig PATA disk with a new one? If so, what are the best options in terms of performance?
Can I replace the 1.2gig DDR ram? If so, what are my best options?
Can I replace the screen (preferably easily)?

Thanks.
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>>81070060
What's the point of a macbook or a thinkpad if you aren't using it for work or school?
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>>81070114
im not familiar with that model particularly but I remember seeing a video where someone upgraded the disk on one like that one with a flash card adapter like picrel
>Can I replace the 1.2gig DDR ram? If so, what are my best options?
according to the lenovo website: supports up to two 1GB SDRAM SO DIMMs at 266hz
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>>81069958
>on qemu the image works perfectly
just double check the image is ok
pic related
>how do I manually attach it?
$ ./build/cbfstool build/coreboot.rom add -f /path/to/image.jpg -n bootsplash.jpg -t raw
$ ./build/cbfstool build/coreboot.rom print

change the path and names obviously
if that doesn't work go back and make sure all the relevent options are ticked (hi res bootsplash, show graphcal bootsplash etc.)
I also ran into an issue where .jpeg images would not display properly but .jpg images would work for some reason even tho the coreboot wiki says both are supported.
>>81070114
>Can I replace the 40gig PATA disk with a new one?
sure
>If so, what are the best options in terms of performance?
personally i'd just put a samsung HM160HC and call it a day.
plenty of 7200 rpm pata drives as well
if you don't want spinning disks then a msata adaptor works as well although it'll probly cost a bit more
>Can I replace the 1.2gig DDR ram?
sure
>If so, what are my best options?
2x1gb of PC2700 or PC3200 is max. just get the cheaper one.
if it's too hard to find 1gb sticks for a reasonable price then just settle for 2x512mb sticks
>Can I replace the screen (preferably easily)?
sure again although i woun't bother since good panels (flexview) for this gen are quite expensive and isn't worth putting on an R50e.
also since the R50e cane with xga you'd also have to find a cable to use sxga+ panels
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looking to buy a cheapish second hand thinkpad for my work

i use ubuntu, is there any model i definitely should not use?
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>>81049354
Holy shit dude, leave some pussy for us too
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>>81051355
I actually got my gf a x240. I gave all of my family thinkpads
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>>81070235
To get laid
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>>81070249
Awesome, guys. Thanks.
>sure again although i woun't bother since good panels (flexview) for this gen are quite expensive
Found some screens from $70. The R50e screen has three thin lines of burned pixels :C Anyway, thanks.
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There's a T420 on eBay for 250$. SSD, 4gb ram and core i5.
This is a computer that is 10 years old, how much more time will it last? I don't mean specwise, I mean the motherboard dying of old age or something like that.
Is it a good deal?
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>>81070705
>motherboard
>dying of age
top of the kek to you laddie. motherboards don't die of old age, they die from hamfisted hambeasts.
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>>81070705
motherboards die of moisture exposure, not much else. if you drop half a glass of water on it, it will die. nobody can tell you how much the motherboard will last, it's specific to each case. they generally last long, which is why thinkpads are popular and change many hands.
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>>81070705
It's not like it was used nonstop those past 10 years.
But for what it's worth I've had a T420 for the past 4 years, and so far it's the AC adapter that's crapping out due to wire fraying while the 420 itself is still going strong.
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>>81070826
is 250 dollars a good price? I got an L450 for the same with 8gb fifth gen i5 and 120 SSD, but the seller sent me 4gb instead and didn't have stock for an exchange so he refunded me.
I liked that the L450 was newer.
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>>81070705
It will last another 10 years
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>>81070705
i think your biggest concern would be the state of the battery. the motherboard could outlive you lmao
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>>81070950
Eh, you're probably overpaying a bit on the T, I think I got mine for a hundred less with equivalent specs, but lolPreCovidPricing and all that.

Consider that you're probably going to end up splurging on RAM, a new battery of some sort, and maybe something to improve the anemic drive capacity situation going on with the advertised model, and factor that into your budget.
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>>81036746
Bless her for making libreboot
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Libreboot's website updated a week ago actually, the guy said he's working on a bit new release scheduled for the end of April.
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>>81071143
that's not leah... holy shit I hope this is a troll comment

>>81071217
I highly doubt it, people should be using coreboot regardless
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>>81070249
Regarding the R50/R50e, I can't seem to find a "panel replacement" video, or even an article related to the replacement of an R50/R50e screen. All the "R50 disassembly videos" I found don't contain any panel disassembly. Can you point me to the right direction? Where can I find instructions for the replacement of R50's screen? I was able to find [1] but it wasn't very helpful.

[1] https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1388117/Ibm-Thinkpad-R50e-Series.html?page=4#manual
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>>81070823
>>81070826
>>81071064
I also found an x250 with better specs for 270. The 12.5 inch screen is a concern though. Is it big enough for coding, studying, etc?
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>>81071417
>people should be using coreboot regardless
why
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>>81071446
>big enough for coding, studying
Yeah, I prefer smaller screens on my laptops. 13 inches is the max for me. 12.5 isn't very small though. i assume the resolution is 1366x768?
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>>81071446
Should be alright, but I dunno if you'll get a whole lot of good screen estate if it's one with a 1366x768 panel. At the very least that resolution absolutely sucks for the 14 inchers.
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>>81071455
because you shouldn't be trusting a third party to build your ROM, not to mention it's 5 years out of date filled with bugs and I'd wager money that there will be no new update this year because most of the team quit and leah is not exactly a responsible individual that I'd place any level of trust in
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>>81071432
>don't contain any panel disassembly.
but it's right here in the hmm you linked?
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1388117/Ibm-Thinkpad-R50e-Series.html?page=118#manual
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>>81071594
>>81071594
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>>81032534
let me guess, you use a rainbow backlit white %60 keyboard, amirite faggot?
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>>81071552
sigh. sorry, and thank you..



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