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/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboards General

PBT edition

>Keyboard recommendation template
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V

>Where to buy keyboards
https://pastebin.com/Rqi24W42
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/
https://www.mechmap.tech/themap
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.cm

>Charts!
https://kiibohd.com

>QMK
https://config.qmk.fm/
https://beta.docs.qmk.fm

>Previous thread
>>80287545
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first for 41% ergosplit trannies tongue my anus
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>>80322156
Why would people give a shit, piss and consooom the fuck out of it.
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>>80322156
Is the feel of buckling springs really desirable? I would think it'd feel pretty awful.
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>>80322266
>Is the feel of buckling springs really desirable?
The people who've used them generally swear by them. Worth trying out at least.
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>>80322266
They're nice, just loud.
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>>80322222
stop spamming your clown tranny
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>>80322266
it depends, i dont like them that much vs alps
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>>80321920
This is what I was after, thanks!
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Where can I get PBT keycaps for ISO-ES layout? Really I just want Ñ. Maybe a PBT spacebar as well, as I hear that HHKB BT has an ABS soacebar.
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>>80322368
Also these.
Shame this stuff never exists in iso, especially nordic.
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Is keyboard interference with Cherry profile keycaps on north-facing switches a thing that only audiophiles and autists worry about or is it a legitimate gamechanging thing?
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>>80322222
It’s really amazing the way people get their brains so thoroughly fried by memes, to the point their posts are no longer intelligible English without significant context.
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>>80322408
Azerty here. I went with blanks ISO caps. They exist on ali.
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>>80322787
How do I know if the keys will fit topre switch?
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i just bought a model m yesterday, ama
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>>80322314
What spam? The food or the post?
>>80322743
Yes Engrish good.
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Tokyo Press
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>>80322204
i really dont care for the model m. its sort of meh. the membrane driven buckling spring is sort of stiff and has 2 key rollover, plus you have to deal with bolt mod and all that other garbage. however, the model f solves all these issues with capacitive buckling spring. i have a bunch of these and i use a 60% f as my daily.
>>80322204
if this board had alps compat i think id have 6 of them already... such an amazing idea
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>>80322862
meant to respond to >>80322266 on the feel of buckling spring
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>>80322156
Is it true that PS/2 has lower input lag than USB?
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>>80322656
if you're on a thread about mechanical keyboards, you're literally an autist. The sound difference is pretty noticeable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFySgr0xmPw
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>>80322921
PS/2 is interrupt based (instead of polling). Last I checked it by definition has no input lag.
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>>80322921
yes but it doesnt really matter
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>>80322850
w2c that lamp?
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I am thinking of buying a Durgod Taurus K320 as my first mechanical keyboard.
Are cherry mx brown switches good? Not sure if I want tactile or if I should get red. I will be typing and playing games.
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>>80323187
Browns have very weak tactility. That's why they get shit on a lot.
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>>80322921
not in any meaningful sense.
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>>80322850
oo, what keeb?
Always on the lookout for non-shit less-expensive topre, which is what I presume this is
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>>80323201
I see them either being recommended as a good middle ground, or a bad compromise depending on who you ask so i am not sure.
Is it true that it would be fatiguing to get anything stiffer than reds, browns or blues?
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>>80322921
In absolute terms or nitpicking yes, in practical terms no.
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>>80323251
>Is it true that it would be fatiguing to get anything stiffer than reds, browns or blues?
no
t. used greens for years and now uses box navy
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>>80323251
>Is it true that it would be fatiguing to get anything stiffer than reds, browns or blues?
That's entirely preference. Personally I like switches that bottom out in the range of 67-75g.
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>>80323187
>>80323201
>>80323251
browns being a 'good compromise' is a meme. they feel nearly linear compared to literally any other tactile. id recommend getting a small switch tester to see what you like the feel of most. https://kbdfans.com/collections/switches-tester/products/gateron-12-switches-tester
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>>80322934
Piggybacking off of this dude's question, I searched around and noticed Holy Pandas don't have this issue. Since their stems are Halo Trues, does that mean Halo True switches also don't have this issue or is the Holy Pandas not affected due to the height of the Invyr housing?
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>>80322656
yes it matters 100%. the inside of the keycap hits on the front of the housing making it sound and feel weird. take a look at dcs if you wanna go with something like cherry but without interference.
>>80323462
yes. some switches (like pandas) have a slightly taller stem making the issue with cherry profile caps a lot less of an issue. although, id recommend going with south facing regardless of switch if you are ever planning on cherry profile.
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>tfw fell for the gmemek
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>>80323960
can't believe you got memed into a good keyboard
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is there a 10keyless with dedicated media keys? people say that it defeats the purpose of the compact size but i feel like they could easily fit around the space of the arrow keys, pic related
DISCLAIMER: I KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT KEYBOARDS
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>>80324071
unfortunately, not many. the only one i can think of is the corsair k65/k63. the only downside is that it looks really "gamery" and the caps are shite quality, plus, you have to deal with cherry as your only option.
or you can spend a lot of money designing and manufacturing your own. or maybe even pay someone to do it? i think a full nav cluster with dedicated media keys would be pretty cool as a high end custom
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>>80324071
imo for something so rarely used, just go with a board that supports qmk and put it in a layer. the quickfire rapid (old, no qmk support) put them in a layer on some of the f keys
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>>80324013
>Crapbs
>Plastic case
>Good
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For me, personally, it's Gateron Browns
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If I plug a keyboard into my laptop, will I still be able to adjust the brightness with Fn+F keys?
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>>80324432
Maybe. What keyboard? What laptop? What OS? USB HID does define brightness control but some (mostly older) laptops and keyboards are using proprietary codes (for example lenovo SK-8855 with T61)
Or did you mean keyboard leds brightness?
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>>80324432
will have to send the right keycodes probably
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is a model m even worth buying?
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>>80324327
>i use media keys so much i prefer dedicated keys
>dont get media keys, they are rarely used
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>>80324596
think of it like play/pause is ctrl-c and dedicated keys are live an actual "copy" button. It's not bad at all.
inb4 you say you'd like a dedicated copy key too
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>>80324511
if you can find one for cheap, yes. i wouldnt go paying over $100 for one. theyre definitely neat and fun to restore, but its pretty bulky and is lacking some modern luxuries. they almost always need to be bolt modded which is a huge pain in the ass. its basically a cool collectable that you break out every once in a while and then sell for $500 once the hobby grows into people buying e-waste for ridiculous amounts of money.
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Damn it all I'll have to crack open this Qwerkywriter whether I like it or not, the R key suddenly died on me. I'll use that time to fix the left Alt and X keys I guess.
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>>80324608
>he doesn't have a dedicated copy key
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>>80323212
FC980C, it’s non-shit but still expensive. You won’t really find cheap genuine topre keyboards
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>>80323168
smoko
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>>80322656
Apparently it damages the keycaps overtime
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>>80323187
I have a store in my country that let me tried different keyboards with different switches. Try to go to one if there is one nearby. Browns just feel awful, laptop keyboards are actually better than them. And don't sleep on linears or reds. I was considering getting a mx blue board at first cus I thought tactile = good but was really surprised at how nice it felt to type in a linear switch.
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>>80324466
>What keyboard?
Durgod Taurus K320
>What laptop?
Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE
>What OS?
Windows 10
>>80324474
Keycodes?
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>>80322850
Cute. Nice upgrade.
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>>80324466
>>80325193
> Or did you mean keyboard leds brightness?
Screen brightness.
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>>80322804
nice, i just ordered one of those mew model Fs, i hope it doesn't take too long to ship
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>>80325193
>Durgod Taurus K320
I'm not seeing any dedicated brightness control buttons. Does it run QMK?
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What is the best laptop chiclet style keyboard? Got a friend that got an external mechanical keyboard for his laptop but can't get used to it as he found it too tall.
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>>80322156
Looking for Keycap sets that support ISO-CH Layout (Swiss). It looks like the only option we get are ancient cherry keyboards or abs gaymer rgb keycaps.
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>>80322408
>ISO-ES
>needs PBT space bar
>HHKB BT

Anon please, get your shit together. Buy a HHKB Hybrid and use US INTL.
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>>80325399
Either get a Topre Short-throw keyboard (pic related) or an IBM M4-1.
Nice build quality and just sublime switches.
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>>80325654
INTL is subpar. I type a ton and fast(120wpm+) and am already accustomed to ISO-es. I just want printed keys as mine are blank and my wife and kids can't touch type yet.
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What should I work on next for these boards? Alps switch support, a diamond arrow cluster at the bottom, PCBs for other thumb clusters, something else?
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>>80322266
It's really peculiar. For me, they are too heavy but as always, try them out before making a statement
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>>80324426
Try good switches
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>>80324511
It's worth like 50$ and it's superior to the ones you posted. Wether you like the keyswitch or not is personal preference. Give them a try
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>>80319976
>That package includes its own current limiting resistors.
What do you mean by the package?
I ordered those to be printed myself.
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>>80325193
>Keycodes?
the laptop isn't really adjusting settings with the f keys most likely. with qmk you could bind brightness adjustment keys to a layer
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>>80324511
very overrated but sorta cool to have in a drawer
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>>80324511
no. they're the mk equivalent of a thinkpad. don't fall for the meme, just save up for a custom you want.
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>>80325772
RGB, bluetooth&battery are fun projects. Also alps sounds nice, never seen an ergo with alps.
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I'm unironically going to buy a mechanical keyboard now and I literally don't even know why
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I bought some Zealios V2 67g as an upgrade to my MX Browns, what am I in for? They're arriving this week
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>>80326379
>bluetooth&battery
Maybe, but no QMK support is a turnoff.
There is this old alps build, would essentially just have to code it to be a parameter between MX and alps switch holes.
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>>80326454
Significantly greater tactility. The browns will feel even more linear than they already do in comparison.
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Someone explain why topre can't be made as individual swappable switches.
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>>80322850
Woah you upgraded, very nice. I spent hours looking for those green keycaps, it’s a shame they are no longer being sold. Where are the spacebar and enter key from?

Also is the Norbauer worth it?
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>>80327196
They can, you can just swap out the domes for Redux for example
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>>80327500
But the keyboard and pcb has to be designed for the switch, doesn't it?
You can't put topre switches, with domes, on a regular hotswap pcb?
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>>80327673
Topre is electro capacitive, a sheet of rubber domes over spherical springs. They are in no way similar to Cherry switches. So no, you can’t put that on a regular (=Cherry) hotswap PCB.
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Spacebar on my RK71 is rattling already after two months. How do I fix it?
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You are all a bunch of fucking manchildren and children.
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>>80327983
Lube the stabilizers
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>>80328152
I agree, everyone on this site is the worst
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>>80327983
IDK if yours has hotswap or not
1. Pull the keycap
2. See those stabilizer crosses? Pull them out as much as possible
3. Put in a small drop of silicone dielectric grease on each cross
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I really want a set of SA caps for my Race 3. I love this thing but this esc key is busting my balls.
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>>80328504
This is what it looks like. Could I just pour some of the grease on it without having to take anything out or disassemble?
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>>80326490
Take a look at zmk. Not too different to qmk but with bluetooth support. The alps board looks nice but holy cable. Would probably be good to replace those caps with xda pbt caps.
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>>80329710
Isn't that a gateron with a milky to and black bottom housing?
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Where can I get a 100% pcb?
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My old keyboard broke. Anybody got recommendations on a good budget mechanical?
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>>80325418
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886116407.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.44824c4dMWJKy5

I bought these a few months ago. Quality is fine, nothing stellar but it does the job. Finding ISO-CH is such a pain in the ass. I'm still contemplating giving up and switching to ANSI with a custom layer for accented characters for french and german at some point.
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Ok you faggots I just got enough of this shit. There are no real pre-built ISO mechanical keyboards.

I have never used ANSI ever. Well, once. It is rare like a unicorn here and my language has NO ANSI layouts. Zero. Nulla.

I'm gonna build one from the ground up with ISO in mind. Where do I begin? Answer this please and thank you. If you know and still scroll then your mother etc etc.
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https://youtu.be/rfEFbR_ZxG0

Tex Shinobi
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>>80330612
I have such a dilemma between a tex shinobi or a split keyboard.
If tex only made a split.
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>>80330530
>Nulla
Nessuno stampa tasti italiani fratello
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>>80322862
Model F is way more irritating to actually restore, though. Less durable plastic shells and the sheer hell of opening up that tight sandwich and cleaning out the decomposed foam and cutting your own is far more annoying than a bolt mod. Hell, screw modding is even easier and a lot of people prefer it since it doesn't change the key feel.
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>>80330704
personally I dont see the appeal in split keyboards, I So am happy with the shinobi.
Shinobi is lowkey endgame. I havent felt like I need anythinig else since. Cherry blacks and trackpoint nipple is great. Build quality is good enough, the mouse buttons aren't the best and come off if you bash them enough but If you bash them only. keyprint is rubbing off slowly over the year, I think in a couple years I will replace them with a new set tex release if they do. If they dont then I just dont care enough since it feels nice and nipple!
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>>80331115
That's what I feel too about the shinobi, I wouldn't feel like getting anything else.
But the split keyboard offers the ergonomics I need.
If any keyboard has soul, that one has it.
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>>80331115
Easier to work with and overall fun
I really enjoy being able to have more freedom while typing
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>>80323168
Smoko Anglerfish

>>80323212
FC980C w/ a Heavy-9. With mods and everything shit was like $1100.

>>80325201
Glad you remember me.

>>80327492
Treecaps were a Massdrop exclusive. Spacebar and Enter are from KBDfans. Norbauer is definitely worth it if you could stomach the price tag.

https://streamable.com/0zliej
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To flash a keyboard like the dactyl I pretty much just need to open it up and put a pin in the right parts of the audrino board on the master side right?
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>>80322156
does anyone know if the keychron k3 supports qmk? im using a norwegian layout, so i cant find the ">"
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GMMK Pro update from a few days ago.
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>>80331445
Disregard this there seems to be a reset key on the second layer
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>>80331889
Blackwoox is a faggot and absolutely one of you /g/ anons, fess up which one of you was it.
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Going to do a comparison between the moonlander and Dactyl but one thing I know for certain is that the boba silents are pretty good.

Hopefully more anons can give their experience with splits and we can make a chart
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>>80324728
what's bolt modding?

>>80328713
use thick lube not runny stuff. google dielectric keyboard grease, use a super small paintbrush to apply it around the sides of the center block.
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>>80330704
they might do one day, its early days for tex. They'r egetting a lot of money and might make a variety of models.
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>>80331333
Sounds great, do you use silencing rings?
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>>80322156
/mkg/ can I get some help? Looking to find a thiccc boi like the old Mac keyboards for nostalgia. Maybe not so chunky actually, but a little extra if you will.

>Less than $150 ideally
>US
>Cherry Blue/Green/White, anything quality that is tactile and clicky
>ANSI, preferably
>65% or less
>No backlight/can be turned off
>Have owned WASD, Das II, Keychron K2

Bonus:
>USB-C
>Wireless
>Volume
>Metal case
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>>80330738
not italian
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>>80333122
Also meta key is a must.
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>>80333122
I'd suggest a KBDfans 5° with Box clickbar switches of your preferred weighting and Mac-style caps, but there's no way that's adding up to less than $150.
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>>80333056
BKE Redux Light Domes
Deskeys DES Topre Silencing Rings #3 Thin
Sliders lubed with Tribosys 3204
Stabilizers lubed with Krytox 205g0
Hasu FC980C Controller
Norbauer K2 Heavy-9 with Acoustic Dampening
Unreal Topre Gasket
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>>80333122
just buy another old mac keyboard
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>>80328576
It's a 1u I believe, buy a blank DSA and be done with it

So I read this rationalization from a 40% user, I might want to buy one but I can only spend 140 USD on one. Any cheap 40% PCBs? Split/fixed split preferred
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Ink blacks or creams?
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>>80333826
ink blacks, especially if you plan to use them stock
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>>80333460
I have the #3 too, they are perfect. I tried Utra Lights in my FC980C but they felt horrible. I have 55g in my R2 that I prefer over the stock FC980C domes, do you know if the Lights are similar to that in weight?
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>>80333826
Creams, use them for a week, then lube
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>>80334022
I do, thanks fren
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>>80331333
>>80333460
>six hundred dollars for a plastic case
Mental illness.
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>>80333668
*1.5u, I cannot accept such a thing.
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>>80333826
Between those two, the inks. Get NK silks if you don't wanna bother lubing switches yourself.
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>>80324071
On my Masterkeys S the group of keys above the arrow keys (del, print screen and shit) are media keys on Fn, works pretty well desu
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Collection is growing
Shout out to Dactyl anon for the lovely craftsmanship and service
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>>80331816
someone halp plehs
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>>80334321
>Collection is growing
And so is your parents' disappointment.
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>>80334321
Nice. It's interesting how the wizard's voodoo looks totally different depending on the lighting. Should print out another one with that filament for myself.
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>>80334498
It's pretty dope!
>>80334401
All of these keyboards will be used anon. I need one for at home another for work. The G915 was from before I used split.
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>>80333826
Shhhhhhhhhhh!

Don't tell anyone, but NovelKeys is about to introduce a new keyswitch - Box Creams.
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>>80334156
>plastic
okay buddy

>>80334028
I think they're slightly heavier with more tactility
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>>80334797
>Box Creams
Those have been up on the usual chink sites for a while haven't they?
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>>80334797
these have been publicly announced by nk
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>>80334864
>six hundred dollars for an aluminium box
Mental illness.
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>>80335469
Imagine being so jealous to the point you're seething in a general.
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>>80335625
>$600 for $6 worth of aluminium
Mental illness.
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>le mental illness xD
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>dactyl PCBs came in already
>beat the switches here even
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>waiting for parts of the build while the rest of it just sits
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>autist who spent over $1k on a "luxury" rubber dome is an iToddler
What a surprise.
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>>80335768
actually I just checked and the switches and caps are supposed to come today yet too. I'm not even ready for everything yet
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>>80334498
Do you have an email I can contact you at? I'm looking to get a dactyl myself.
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I really don't understand why people like aluminum cases so much
Every aluminum case I've tried sounds much worse than a plastic case
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>>80322156
I miss using my IBM Model M but I had some issue where I'd turn on my computer and I'd get no input from the keyboard until after the GRUB boot menu. It would only be for the first time, however, and would not affect me if I restarted the computer. I made sure PS/2 and legacy USB support was enabled in the BIOS. If it makes any difference, this is a single combo PS/2 port. This also affected me on the same computer when I used an active adapter.
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>>80335956
Its premium even though its worse
Also aluminium is far more practical for small production run products than plastic, it can be milled relatively cheaply whereas making anything remotely complex out of plastic means creating molds, so aluminium is used for a lot more custom stuff outside the normal form factors
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>>80335944
Sure, it's dactylman at protonmail.com. I do also have this board in particular up for sale in case you'd want those switches/case color. >>80325772
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I just bought a gk61 for ~30€. Does anyone know any optical switches that are niche enough to let me flex on my hipster friends without fucking up the typing experience?
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painting the top casing?
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>>80336049
of the switch
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are there any HHKB copies with the same layout? i don't want to pay reddit tier prices for a keyboard
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How are Cherry MX Reds for typing?
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>>80336748
There are many, the lay-out is called HHKB so it should be easy to Google. Don’t know about the prices though.
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>>80332135
>Blackwoox
oh hey glorious shill
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>>80323251
I used blues for years no problem, but I found blacks and greens fatiguing. I also found reds way too light, so take of that what you will.
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>>80324071
If you have a qmk or programmable keyboard you can just replace printscr pause and scrlk. They're barely useful anyways
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Are there any Cherry MX Green full-size keyboards in-stock fuckin anywhere right now?
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>>80322266
I like them and use them daily, although I wish they required more force. The build quality of the Unicomp is 5/10 though. It's a shame.
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How do you gentle(wo)men (no trans opinions plz) feel about WASD/Cewd keyboards?
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>>80336750
Do you like light switches with no audible or tactile indication that you've actuated a key?
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>>80337380
buy leopold, cheaper and better quality keycaps
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>>80336750
They may feel weird at first but they're perfectly fine once you're used to them.
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>>80337402
>no cherry mx greens
But my fingers are mighty
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>>80337445
Get box navies.
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>>80337471
Nono I want at least 80g actuation and I don't want to have to install them myself because I don't have time, what with all the finger banging I'm doing
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>>80337553
Greens certainly don't have 80g actuation force. That's where they bottom out. Navies have a far greater tactile bump and bottom out at 90g.
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>FORGOT TO ORDER 150G SPRINGS
OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK WHIP DAB NAENAE GANGNAM STYLE HIT THE QUAN STANKY LEG TRUST FALL ZINEDINE ZIDANE ALL MY BASE R IN MY ASS????
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>>80337573
orly? welll sheet whats a beefy boy to do
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>>80337677
Get those fuckin' 280g tai-hao alps clicky clones.
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>>80337602
report back with your findings. I too like a heavy switch but I've heard tactiles lose their noticable bump under heavy springs.
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>>80337383
I don’t know. I’ve never used a mechanical keyboard before. Maybe I should just buy a switch tester.
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I upgraded from a generic keyboard to a Leopold 750R. It's great and I have no complaints.
Been using it for a while and I was just wondering if there is anything else I can do to improve the keyboard experience. Or is this peak optimal performance?
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>>80337779
It's about as good as prebuilts get. If you really want you could desolder the switches and put in different ones that are lubed/filmed.
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Want a new keyboard, what would you recommend? Currently have an anne pro 2, but it's pretty old now.
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is topre worth it?
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>>80337696
Aye aye, capitan
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>>80337830
Getting a life.
>>80338048
No.
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>>80338048
I'd sooner get holy pandas for a "rubber dome feeling" switch
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just finished putting together a keyboard for the first time and it's nothing special but my god it's a massive upgrade over my old mx blue gaymer board
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>>80335829
>pcb is delayed for 2 months and finally arrives
>waiting for switches delayed for a month anyway
thanks brexit
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>>80338785
based weebcaps
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for me, it's Kiwis
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>>80338894
i want kiwis :3
contemplating building a second keyboard to be a tactile build
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>>80323462
>>80323819
I think I'm the only person in existence to use Halo Trues. I'll buy a set of Cherry and see if they do or don't cause interference.
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>>80338785
i need this.. but with... a numblockdontkillme
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>>80338785
Is that DSA profile? How are they after using OEM (I'm assuming you had OEM profile keycaps with your gaymer keyboard)
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>>80323819
Now to search for where the fuck I can find DCS keycaps. I'm assuming its cylindrical shape lets it avoid north-facing interference?
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>>80339027
Looks like XDA to me.
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>>80339027
xda. dsa is shorter and tapers off more at the top
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>>80338894
for me, it's Boba U4Ts
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>>80339021
i have halo trues that came with a drop keyboard I got for xmas. I feel like they need to be lubed though but they are soldered into the board.
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>>80339027
They're XDA, so far I really like them. My other keyboard had cherry profile, which was okay but I wanted to try something different. These are nice but I'm making more typing errors than normal, I think it's a combination of the flatter keycaps and very light (37g) switches. It'll take some adjustment for sure. These caps would probably be more comfy on a heavier keyboard where it's harder to mistype in my opinion
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>>80339113
sorry, and by heavier I mean higher actuation force switches haha
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>>80339106
D'you have pandas or any of the other similarly tactile switches to compare them with?
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>>80322266
They're wonderful. I like clicky switches, and to annoy people around me, because I'm an asshole, but buckling spring feels good no matter what.
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>>80322156
Has anyone tried the tvs gold with that blue switch ? I never tried anything other than membrane keyboard and a used tvs gold is extremely cheap in my country. Should I get one ?
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>>80339113
Gotcha. Thanks for the info, nice build btw.
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>>80322850
looks like my rama u80-a in milk
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>>80338785
Matcha green? I wanna buy it too, it looks so good.
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Can anyone explain to me why there's no fucking step capslocks available in OEM profiles?
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I built a board with Boba U4's 6 months ago and haven't even thought about another mech since then. It's that good. Just wanted to pop into the thread to tell y'all.
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>>80339131
Yes I have 70 bsun Holy Pandas with the stock 60g springs and the U4Ts I have are 62g springs.

To me they feel the close enough with just a little pretravel before the bump itself.

Sound wise the HPs are just a little deeper sounding but I spent a bunch of time lubing them with 3204. I left the boba's stock to break them in before lubing and honest they sound and feel great to me.

Price wise if you were thinking of making your own bsun/yok pandas with halo clears, I'd say get the U4Ts instead. None of them have the crunch the glorious pandas have and they're priced pretty fairly.
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>>80322156
model f taking for fucking ever to ship
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Anyone use the skylight keycaps from assdrop? I am looking for some caps for when I finally get my gmmk pro and they are only like 50 bucks.
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>>80339298
I have glorious pandas and the silenced u4s on hand, but to me the u4s have a noticeably larger/sharper bump. I like how smooth and wobble free the bobas are but I like the rounder bump of the pandas. Maybe I should just make a franken with the pink boba bases since the weaker leaf would mean a smaller bump.
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>>80334244
You can get a 1.5u novelty key as an escape key. DSA milkshake for example has those 1.5u accented symbols you can easily use to substitute as an escape key.
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>>80336750
Linears feel good to type on. Go to keyboard if you have a keyboard store nearby.
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>>80339223
Congrats you saved a lot of money
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>>80339324
Glorious is actually coming out with their own line of PBT backlit keycaps iirc. Not sure when.
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>>80339331
The U4Ts feel exactly the same to me as the U4S(I have a few left over from a board I made for my brother). I don't have any glorious pandas on hand so I can't tell you if they differ any from legit halo stems.
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Is XDA profile good for someone coming from modern thinkpad keyboard?
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>>80339223
I haven't bought a keyboards for about a year and a half then I bought an NK65 last month then started coming here and reserved a gmmk pro. I should have never opened that email form novel keys. baka.
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>>80330246
thanks for this, yes I am also thinking about switching to ANSI once and for all. do you know about the US international layout? they have all the special characters build in. its like switzerland could just use the US international layout instead of creating this meme layout.
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>>80339543
The glorious ones feel pretty much exactly the same as other pandas to be honest. I assume you agree that the bobas have a bigger bump to them than the pandas yea?
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Thinking of getting a macropad style smaller board specifically for gaeming. Would like to have a rotary encoder set up horixontal under my left thumb....actually, I should start looking into building this sort of thing from the ground up.
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>>80339212
These were only $35 so they're probably knockoffs but they feel surprisingly solid for the price desu
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>>80336852
don't even mind him being suspicious about the sincerity of glorious on their keyboards but nah he came across as an overly hostile /v/irgin who can't control himself
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>>80330612
do the keycaps work on other mx keyboards ?
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>>80340135
Yes, they're Cherry profile keycaps, you can buy them individually
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>>80340288
what about keycap sizes some youtuber said they are non standard
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I'm looking for a GMMK pro lookalike. Mainly interested in the layout and rotary encoder. Chink clone would be fine. I just love that layout and not tryna drop $250 to build my first keeb
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>>80340135
>>80340338
TEX ADA profile, only exists in black ABS iirc
You can get ones specifically modified for Shinobi (trackpoint cutout, downscaled function keys) or normal sized sets (104, extra or vanity legends)

>>80330612
>>80331115
>called Shinobi
>no silent black prebuilt
I will never stop being mad about having to spend extra money and time on it.
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Packet lubing both the springs and the stem is such a time saver. It's actually incredibly consistent on the stem too and even gets a nice light coat inside the stem, all I do now is lube the bottom housing a little and put it together.
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does anyone have alice tgr layout? is it more comfy than a standard layout?
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>>80339027
I have the same set and they're ZDA, basically the same as XDA.
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>>80339324
i have these
https://drop.com/buy/npkc-gradient-pbt-doubleshot-side-lit-keycap-set
theyre decent, but they don't have an extra 1.75u key for 65% right shifts
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>>80339304
I ordered one yesterday, how long of a wait am i in for?
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Why don't RGBfags realize they are flashing the rainbow faggot flag on their desk ?
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>>80336049
Be very careful. Don't rattlecan that.
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>>80340342
Why isnt the spacebar area solid? That open line to the stabs annoys me because it allows shit go get into the pcb layer
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>>80322204
pig disgusting
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>>80341303
Yeah those keys are tacky as fuck
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>>80324894
Oh man I had this exact retarded keyboard back in 2005. The memoris.
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>>80341303
I use splits but that keyboard is rad as fuck
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>spent $110 on importing case for hhkb
Consooom meme hitting hard
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>>80322156
My Ducky one2 mini is about to die (key chattering), what would be a good not too expensive 60%?
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>>80341616
Just replace the switches that are chattering anon.
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It's scary how tactile and quiet the boba 4U silents are when lubed.
I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>80341645
I dont have a solder iron and they are not hot swap switches
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>>80333668
> So I read this rationalization from a 40% user, I might want to buy one but I can only spend 140 USD on one. Any cheap 40% PCBs? Split/fixed split preferred
Bump
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>>80341700
A soldering iron & the skills to use it are pretty handy anon, maybe time to pick one up. A TS100 is fairly cheap but still a great iron.
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>>80332651
You still here anon? Is it cool if you added me on steam? 1055812218 is my code. Might need some help when the dielectric grease I ordered comes.
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>>80341700
A soldering iron can be yours for 1/10th the cost of your meme keyboard. Learn a new skill anon.
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>>80334797
Found them on ali, how do they differ from normal creams? Just water resistant or what?
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>>80341593
kbdfans makes one probably a lot cheaper and it's really good
https://kbdfans.com/collections/carrying-case/products/kbdfans-carrying-case-for-hhkb
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Dielectric grease became a dielectric oil (somehow). Is that an issue? I mean it certainly works, even if the feeling is a little bit soft and cushy (not mushy or anything, just different) compared to the previous result, but still.
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How exactly would you lube kailh box switches? Lube the stem and the spring? Was thinking of trying out some box whites.
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Southpaw numpad are Gateron blues, alphas are zealios, fn toggle arrows are tealios
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>>80336748
They cost less than your average "custom keyboard" while being superior. Pull the trigger and ascend, pussy
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>>80342197
Does not fit the BT model unless you cut out parts. The Van nuys case is specifically made only for the BT.
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Is it difficult to wire your own rgb?
All the tutorials I've seen use led strips or no backlight
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>>80339618
Like I said they feel the same to me, though until I tried out tactiles in general I only used linears.

In terms of tactility of the switches I’ve tried from most to least; zealios v2’s, boba u4(s/t)/pandas, then gat browns on the bottom.
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>>80322156
Have you guys ever used Matias keebs? How are they?
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>>80343890
I haven't used matias stuff but I've used regular alps.
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>>80340472
I'm using an actual splitd and the alice layout confuses me because you're still forcing both hands close together. It doesn't really seem more ergonomic.
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>>80339106
this look great
I have bobagums on the way but I'm wondering if he will do a thocky version of his linears like the U4T is to the bobas
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>>80340342
the gmmk pro is cheap for what it is anon
you won't find a lookalike for cheaper
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*blocks ur path*
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anyone ready for some fucking ikki68s tonight
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Do I really need to commit to building a qmk dev environment in order to set stuff like autoshift?
Why doesn't the configurator just do that itself?
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what are the cutest or coolest thematic keycaps?
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>>80345110
Madoka Magica ones
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>>80345110
Wise wolf is my current favorite.
I am becoming consumer because of it.
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>>80345007
I feel your pain. I was using the configurator until I wanted to enable mouse keys and NKRO. Still not sure why either are even off by default.
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>>80345817
this layout is terrible. why are there 6 shift keys?
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>>80345885
It's no layout, those are keycaps available
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Are ortho keyboards a meme?
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>>80346247
I think there are a lot of good things about them, but I'm not into 40%s and smaller. I like the rows lining up, and shrinking the bigger keys. A normal keyboard's spacebar just seems stupid now. You could fit so many keys in the same spot. At the least a split spacebar should be more common so you can put backspace on one side.
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are the ducky one 2 switches soldered?
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>>80346593
There’s no hotswap Ducky AFAIK
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>>80346593
yes
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>>80346447
Arent there 60% ortho too? I am torn between ortho and staggered split.
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>>80340391
i see noice
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>>80345110
Dots dots dots dots dots
Get your dots
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>>80343890
I’ve got this keyboard in gray, I don’t know if that means it’s got a different clone alps switches in it. I find the keyboard generally unremarkable except for it’s Bluetooth capability.
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>>80346834
I have a columnar stagger split that is basically 60%. There are probably full on ortho 60%s also. I can't remember how many keys the nyquist has, but it might be one.
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>>80342936
Laaaaame. This is the ONE TRUE leftie layout.
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>>80341593
Is the case any good?
In the after times, we will be allowed to travel again.
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>>80346834
>>80347266
Nyquist, Helix and Preonic are all proper 60% orthos
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>>80347366
preonic is 50% I thought
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>>80347266
What's your opinion on split keyboard?
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>>80337380
Bought a TKL six years ago that has Cherry MX Browns. Still going strong after all these years and God knows how many keystrokes.

For reference the next keyboard I bought was just a year ago. I use that one at the office and WASD here at home.
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>>80347904
They're pretty nice and fun. I especially like having thumb keys. It might make getting keycaps more annoying. My keys are all 1U and I just got a bunch of blanks.
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>>80345110
I own this set, the typeface is fucking horrendous and the text on the win key is fucked

still the cheapest dsa set out there tho at $20
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>>80346834
xd75 is a 70% ortho
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>>80322270
I love it.
My co-workers don't, because they hear my typing 3 offices away...
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>>80348660
Do you have one? What's your experience with it? Do you like it?
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Heya. I type quite a lot, mostly emails but also some material for the company. I'm looking for something quiet, high quality, and wireless. Hoping to spend between 50-100 USD.

I found this to be pretty enticing

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

What does /g/ think?
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>>80322156
Is this a cherry mx keyboard? can someone tell from the picture I know that Cherry made mx keyboard for maxdata
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>>80343086
Ah cool, didn't know that
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>>80350202
Yooo I am typing on a keychron K6 hot swap right now.

Pros:
>High quality build
>USB-C
>Good battery
>Utility row
>Wireless bluetooth 5.1
>Hot swap switches (if you get the hot swap model, which I advise you do)
>Compatible with cherry keycaps
>18 different RGB settings

Cons:
>Gateron browns (my switches) feel really mushy and unsatisfying to type on
>Key caps will rattle a bit -- there's some play when teasing at the caps
>Cap material is terrible, glossy ABS

Up to you. If you get a Keychron get a hot swap model so you can switch out the terrible gaterons for something down the road. I kinda bought mine to turn into a frankeboard.
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Relatively new to the mech scene lads, and I want to build a custom board for my friend's birthday in June. I figure that'll be enough time. Here's what I'm thinking:

>Keychron K2/K6 as the base (hot swap model)
>Cherry clears as switches
>Some kind of keycaps

Where can I find high quality custom PBT keycaps? He's requesting crimson, red and gold for colors on his caps/legends.

Thanks again boyos
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>>80350858
>He's requesting crimson, red and gold
GMK Samurai has those colors, get a PBT knock-off from Ali
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>>80351009
Funny you mention that. I literally just pulled the trigger on that exact set.
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>>80350781
Noice. Paid extra for the hotswap. Thanks anon!
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What precisely is a "floating typist?"

I came across this term dealing with a con on gateron -- that floating typists may not like this switch in brown.

Anyone know exactly what a floating typist is? Does it mean when you don't press down all the way?
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>>80351242
Pianist style?
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What precisely is a "floating typist?"

I came across this term dealing with a con on gateron -- that floating typists may not like this switch in brown.

Anyone know exactly what a floating typist is? Does it mean when you don't press down all the way?
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>>80351354
Some guy who prefers to not rest their wrist.
Pretty odd if you ask me
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>>80351412
Wrist wresting is uncomfortable and a huge problem with lqptop keyboards, why I just carry a tablet and my keeb around instead.

The term could also refer to people who type on hall effect keys, where you can type faster by not bottoming out
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>>80351123
Have fun Anon!
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>>80345664
post
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>>80345885
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>>80346247
we'll find out when my niu mini arrives sometime this year
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>>80350505
Cherry G83 series, mediocre rubber domes. Avoid.
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>>80350202
If you want something that is actually good for such budget, buy a Leopold.
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>>80344877
Yes cunt
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>had a keyboard with Gateron blacks a few years ago
>best damn fucking keyboard I had ever owned
>spilled a glass of orange juice over it within 2 weeks of owning it
>Felt like shit afterwards
>Decided to just get a board with cherry MX blacks because I heard they're better now
>nowhere near as good

I miss that board man
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>>80352010
just put together a board with ink blacks
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>>80352051
Next time I get a bonus I'm going to build the best fucking keyboard I've ever owned
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>>80352076
what kit/switches/caps are you planning on getting?
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>>80352148
dactyl 3x4/cherry blue/ahegao caps
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What are the best non-cherry switches if I'm looking for something similar to Cherry Reds?
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>>80352606
Find whatever hall effect board with similar weighting.
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>>80352635
>>80352635
>>80352635
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>>80352606
gateron ink reds
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>>80343890
I love how they feel personally, stabs are a touch loose but otherwise nice sharp bump.



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