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How are you convincing people to abandon big tech and adopt FOSS and decentralized solutions?
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>>79685526
By using them
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>>79685526
Idk how you fight a monopoly so strong. They are on Standard Oil levels and only the government could do something by this point. Not that they wil llol
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>>79685557
75 million americans voted for Trump. They are now seeing Twitter and Facebook explicitly cracking down on free speech and banning/shadowbanning people left, right and centre. Even a lot of the normalfags who voted Trump can see something is not right, which is why they're starting to dump the major social media platforms. Even Europe is baffled by Twitter outright banning Trump.

It's not going to happen overnight, but it's not completely unrealistic to suggest it's possible to refuse twitter's stranglehold on the distribution of information, which is one of the biggest problems in society today.
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>>79685526
Big tech
Big government
Big money
Big media
vs.
alternatives made by enraged trump supporters

Lol
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>>79685603
>alternatives made by enraged trump supporters
Yep, you're a complete idiot alright. You also do not belong on /g/.
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Join the fediverse. Use the GNU alternatives.
Social media -> Pleroma
Youtube -> Peertube
IG -> Pixelfed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOiCACmjKBM

BASEDlist
>fediblock.org/blocklist/
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>>79685620
>FEDiverse
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>>79685526
Why should I convince others? They know those companies control what they can say and their personal data, they just don't care.
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>>79686067
>they just don't care
They're starting to.

Even my boomer mum is getting concerned amid recent news. Now is the right time to convince people.
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>>79685620
Can I host a server with a home server? Like with a docker image?
I run Unraid on my Home Server.
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>>79685620
>Luke Smith
Didn't read
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>>79686079
They are starting to, but only because of the whole Trump social media fiasco being shown on TV. My country talked a LOT about Twitter, Amazon, Facebook and Whatsapp. Even some newspapers dedicated some pages about it and how you should install Signal and Telegram instead.
If the whole issue with orange man didn't happen, I can assure you, people would keep using those apps and sites
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>>79685603
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>>79686190
Is there a problem?
Recent news isn't going to affect the entirety of proletarian society, but it's at least a start. A lot of conservatives are beginning to wake up and realize there is a big problem with social media in its current state, and are now exploring alternatives.
Now is as good of a time as any to spread the word of importance regarding FOSS software and decentralization. More people are listening than ever before.
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>>79686197
Well, until I develop my own nukes, I'm going to have to kiss someones boots.
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>FOSS is going to be considered problematic now
>Soon not being part of the botnet means you're a Nazi.
Thank you, America, thank you very much.
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There's no reason to, many have been aware of big tech's influence on our daily lives long before Trump called them out the day the election results came in. However technology truly is the way ahead and technology cannot work if it's FOSS. Facebook and Twitter are gonna get backlash for censoring the US president and will inevitably regret it.
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god this board is filled to the brim with /pol/fags
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1. I never used Shopify, Amazon, Apple, Pinterest, Tiktok, Twitch, Snapchat

2. My Facebook, Twitter and Instagram are only used for searching purposes.

3.Spotify is the only viable option for music.

4. The best I can do is use DuckduckGo, I can't just degoogle my phone. I need whatsapp in my country.

5.Reddit and 4chan are the only social media I use.
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>>79686367
no, this board is filled with technology enthusiasts who are more concerned with freedom, privacy, and a competitive internet than with feelings. Censorship is inherently anti-/g/. At the moment, monopolistic "big tech" is going on a censorship spree, and regardless of WHO is being censored, their monopolistic practices are disgusting and need to be stopped.
I stopped giving a shit about politics but I want to see Google, Twitter, Facebook, etc crash and burn for the filth they have brought.
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>>79686448
Been here 10 years, learned Linux embedded development unironically through the install gentoo meme, but I sincerely hope the neoliberal establishment slowly chokes you to death.
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>>79686448
No, it's filled with polfags like you who can't understand what censorship actually means.
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>>79686448
don't care, go back to /pol/
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>>79686103
Yes.
https://pleroma.social/
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>he thinks he has freedom under capitalism
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>>79686506
>>79686511
hello r*ddit
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>>79686564
this
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>>79686506
>I would like to learn about opensource software alternatives to X
>I must be /pol/
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>>79686448
Don't lie to me, most of you came from kiwifarms because it's down.
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>>79686598
Sorry Ralph, kiwifarms isn't down.
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>>79686367
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>>79686506
>No, it's filled with polfags like you who can't understand what censorship actually means.
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>>79686644
I thought it was supposed to be down all week, I guess that's why the lolcow threads are gone. Fuck, does this mean /g/ is just going to be like this forever now?
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>>79686506
>censorship: the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.
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>>79686564
>he thinks he has freedom under socialism
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>>79686707
>he thinks socialism is a kind of government that oppresses people
Dumbest Generation.
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>>79686401
Whatsapp works with microg
https://plexus.techlore.tech/applications/whats-app
Do it bit by bit. For music, start using soulseek and download high quality stuff and then tag them with picard. Good luck anon
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>>79686680
You forgot an important part: BY GOVERNMENT OR OTHER BODY THAT CAN DENY YOUR GENERAL RIGHTS, not "lol, I got banned from twatter".
Please stop pretending you're dumb and just admit you want to be fucking racist and hateful on social media like a dumb little spoiled, hateful child.
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>>79686707
1) fuck off to /pol/
2) agree on a common definition on socialism before you start shit-flinging.
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>>79686818
Niggerfaggot.
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>>79686401
>3.Spotify is the only viable option for music.

Nigga...

Torrents exist. Shit, YouTube downloader exists.

How can anyone in their right mind say that Spotify is the only option for music?
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>>79686401
>spotify is the only viable option for music
>reddit
kek
go the fuck back though
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take your meds already qtard
trump is not going to take you to planet usa on a spaceship
deal with it
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>>79687277
APPLEFAGS BTFO
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>>79685599
idk man the 81 million that voted against trump is still comfy as hell
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>>79687301
I have already convinced three people to retire their apple laptops. So cry more
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>>79686818
Big cooperations already control the government, it's one step away.
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>>79685526
What has Spotify done?
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>If you want something done right, do it yourself, Adolf Hitler
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>>79687879
They silenced Joe Rogan, the greatest living philosopher.
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>>79687931
lol
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>>79687928
gosh I love infographics that tell me what to do
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>>79687951
This is not even an infographic.
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>>79685526
>big tech
Ah, yes. And distributed cloud AI hyperautomated blockchain extended reality internet of things actionable analysis to you too, buzzword spouting retard.
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I'm hand running my stupid pile of shit helper function that refuses to work to the sound of my parents fucking upstairs, fucking hell I can't do this.
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>>79687928
>host your own shit insecure code
>get raped by skiddies and bots
what a great idea!
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>>79687963
chub tech
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>>79687931
I thought some staff tried, but management didn't listen.
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>>79687977
anon, you either go unraped as a cuck or go down raped as a free man
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>>79687977
How about you actually not hosting insecure code? This is not hard. Read couple books, couple manuals, couple guides... Do not read stack overflow. And there we go.
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>>79687985
taxes going to the government eventually trickles down to the citizens through better infrastructure, social program and military which can in turn create even more wealth for the country and its citizens
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>>79687996
thank you for the advice anon, I believe you omitted the part where I'd also be doing a couple programmings
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>>79687996
secure codes cannot come from an insecure man, no amount of books or guides can change that, change needs to happen from within
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>>79687748
Yeah those dead people, felons, illegals sure did make their voices heard.
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>>79688024
based blm poster
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>>79685526
i tried for years but stopped bothering, some friends will come along with you but their presence at other platforms is short lived.
thankfully people have been getting redpilled thanks to the trump/parler fiasco so i hope this builds momentum.

>>79686835
soulseek exists and im pretty sure there are solutions out there which let you stream your personal music collection to your other devices.
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>>79685603
i just want to make fun of trannies and niggers in peace and be able to call blatant trolls "retards" without temporarily losing access to my friends and family who are dumb enough to allow themselves to be used as hostages.
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>>79688022
>>79688007
Am I a fucking genious, or you're retards?
This is not hard as long as you use common sense™ (like not using default SSH port, "nigger" as a password), follow common modern up-to-date practices (e.g. not storing passwords as MD5 and sensetive information inside web root), keep software up-to-date, etc. Follow laws like GDPR (they give you a clue how to have a secure website).
I mean, it won't be the most secure thing ever, but would be secure enough.
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who gives a shit, I only have another 40y on this shitty world.
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>>79688117
>but would be secure enough

yeah people tend to think that before their shit gets fucked up
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>>79686197
wtf did I just watch
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>>79685526
What's even a viable alternative to youtube? Bitchute and most platforms like it only have the same kind of content (and will probably be shut down because of that content). All the other shit I dont use but I don't really see many alternatives to youtube for a content consumer as opposed to a content creator.
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>>79688147
If shit gets fucked, you're the only one to blame.
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>>79688159
Modern America.
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>>79688195
tell you what, you're a good salesman
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>>79687928
Extremely unrealistic and unsustainable for everyone.
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>>79686401
Use Signal, maggot.
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>>79688214
I don't know what you find unrealistic there.
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>>79688117
>This is not hard as long as you use common sense™
Cool give me your IP and 10 minutes
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>>79685526
What alternative is there to youtube? Bitchute has pretty much one specific kind of content that will probably just lead to it being shut down anyway. Most every other attempt at alternative video hosting has the same problem with all the content being the same.
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>>79688182
>>79688247
Also why does it take multiple minutes for a post to show up, aaaaa
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>>79688247
i'm finding some other stuff on bitchute by browsing the categories; i hope it gets better at suggestion eventually
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>>79688243
104.17.78.75
Try it.
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>>79687928
>stop using payment services
>start using paid hosts

>stop using browsers
>start making websites
Something doesn't add up
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>>79688239
The implications of what is suggested, not its feasibility. Viable alternatives for everyone, not just some pet project. More privacy throughout society, the better.
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>>79686707
it is, every government does, and when the whole economic model is under the government's boot its even worse
t. a eastern european
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>>79688286
you sound like a google employee
fuck off shill
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>>79688286
>he doesn't make his own payment processor
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>>79688232
I cant, everyone uses WhatsApp here
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>>79688182
Your first option is a youtube front-end mirror. Check out:

https://invidious.tube/
https://lbry.tv/
http://odysee.com/

It's youtube, except without being tracked. Think of it like Ungoogled Youtube.

As for actual alternatives, check out peertube, and the Federated Networks in general. That is the future.

https://joinpeertube.org/instances
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>>79687748
>missing the point
Yes I know you're an idiot, no need to further confirm that.
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>>79688390
just signed up for lbry cause rossman shilled it.

https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/trump-s-ban-will-be-good-for-social:9
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>>79686835
alot of less popular artists can only be found on places like spotify
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>>79685526
Amazon would probably be the hardest thing to kick. They offer the lowest prices and the best service on a bunch of stuff. Especially their return policies.
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>>79688117
>"nigger" as a password
tfw i use nigger as a password
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>>79685526
Social media exists because people wanted to, so that's not my fucking problem.
Good luck fighting for something that people doesn't actually cares.
Democracy is just an illusion, slavery exists in the way of working class citizens and free speech is allowed as long as you don't say something that people disagrees.
The internet is shit and it was always shit, there's no golden era of the internet, fuck you faggot.
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>>79688243
133.130.91.98
Waiting for le epin haxxorz.
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>>79685526
I swear that all the people making posts about free speech here are all polfags. If you were a g fag, youd know we dont use all of this garbage already
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>>79688713
>I swear that all the people making posts about free speech here are all polfags. If you were a g fag, youd know we dont use all of this garbage already
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>finally get rid of Whatsapp since I absolutely despise it
>working towards slowly getting rid of Facebook
>Friend from another country: "Privacy"?
>"Do you use discord"?

You can not win.
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>>79685526
if they need convincing to unfuck themselves they are better off with the globohomo cock in them
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>>79685526
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>>79685620
Just /hsg/ it>
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>>79686679
they are back. Just give g time to recover these tourists will move on eventually
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I'm trying to get rid of google, what email provided should I use?
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>>79687977

learned helplessness
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>>79685603
>>79686367
>>79686564
>>79686664
>>79686734
>>79686826
>t.
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>>79688035
>he unironically believes trump won
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>>79688326
Give up man. They won't understand. They have to experience it first.
So lean back and enjoy the show.
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>>79686401
>Reddit
KYS
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>>79685526
>they silenced you

I wasn't silenced because I don't make posts encouraging violent coup d'etats against elected officials.
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>>79689211
i was silenced cause i called someone a "retard"
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>>79687748
No, I also think its pretty messed up too. I like tax funded healthcare, but dislike this slippery slope into totalitarianism where only the official party's view can be represented in the mainstream media/social media/academia.
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One word.
Federation.
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>>79689074
protonmail is pretty neat.
Or just make your own.
>>79687928
Lol. Who is going to pay for these alt small business websites?
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>>79689211
Why were the NY Post silenced for their Hunter Biden story?

I look forward to your brainwashed reasoning.
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By building my own alternatives. Working on a youtube compete currently. Fully FOSS.
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>>79689304
Making a video hosting website isn't too difficult. It's the scalability.
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>>79689211
noooooooooooo
not my corrupt child rapists elected officials please they're innocent they didn't do anything bad!!!!!!!!!
please noooo not my superduper valuable DEMOCRACY that we hated this entire time...
please!!! they are all innocent!! don't do anything.!!!!!!!
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>>79689320
100%. I'm going for a subscription based platform because I feel ad based revenue is equally as bad as closed source software (means the product being sold is the user and the customer is the ad networks). With $1/mo/user I can scale effectively even with higher $/GB traffic/hosting costs.
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>>79689410
It's going to be hard to get anyone to pay $1 for a website with no content whereas they have Youtube which is free with all the content they want.
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>>79689436
>>79689410
But going off this. It is a good project, even just for the creating experience. Good luck
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>>79685620
>affid
>ref
im not going to click that. fuck shills and their crappy refererral links
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>>79685599
>Even Europe is baffled by Twitter outright banning Trump.
No, burger retard. EU apparatchiks are baffled by FAGMAN not allowing them the control over who gets censored.
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>>79689410
>>79689320

I highly suggest hosting a PeerTube instance. It handles the scalability issue by dispersing the costs of servers over as many as users wish to host, and transfer of content itself is further bolstered by webtorrent. Its an open, federated platform and even has a lot of new features, including the first variant of livestreaming that came out recently in PeerTube 3.0 release.

You're welcome to monetize any way you wish on your server, so if you want to set up a subscription server or something that's fine, but i'd suggest that over top yet another proprietary centralized subscription video hosting or streaming site. There are enough of those and it really doesn't help things overall.
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There's only one thing left that is able to hurt big tech: luddism

building alternatives is futile, since they can't hold up against commercial products/services.

what big corps rely on financially is the users, who are the foundation. remove the users, and you will remove the revue.

no matter how big a corp is, if it can't make money it can't survive and will collapse under it's own weight. THEN we rebuild and we build better, banning all forms of advertising, data-mining and centralization.
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>>79688522
LMAO at Spotify making you discover "obscure artits". It's shit. The only people who use Spotify have normie tier taste in music. At this point even Youtube has moe shit than Spotify. There's nothing you cannot find via Soulseek.
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>>79688326
>>79689156
reminder that the only people who complain about the socialism are the ones whose existence is not allowed under socialism. businesmess, rich celebrities etc, and not the actual average working class normies.
really makes you think.
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>>79689447
thnx anon

>>79689532
> There are enough of those and it really doesn't help things overall.

That's why I'm allowing you to choose your subscription fee. Anything over $1 is split evenly between everything you upvote on the site that month. So if you upvote 2 things and your subscription is $5/mo to the site, then those two things get $5 - $1 (site fee) / 2 upvotes = $2 each.

It hopefully provides an alternative that's a better model than what's out there, and if not then at least the source code is free for someone else to build off of.

Working on the encoding for the vids right now. Here's the upload view. Got the server encoding working last week for multiple resolutions, which opens a websocket to the frontend to stream progress.
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>>79689605
one of my favorite artists only has a few of their songs on youtube, but their whole collection is on spotify
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>>79689605
this, imagine saying a mainstream service is good for discovering obscure music. Also imagine arguing about it when it is a use case for 0.0000000000001%
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>>79688817
I like this meme :)
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>>79689642
>the only people who complain about the socialism are the ones whose existence is not allowed under socialism. businesmess, rich celebrities etc, and not the actual average working class normies.

shut the fuck up you stupid Ameritard leftist
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>>79686734
>>he thinks socialism is a kind of government that oppresses people
It is.
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>>79689605
>Want to hear one song
>Search on spotify
>Hear it
>Add to playlist if I want to hear it later
vs
>Want to hear a song
>Look up youtube
>Low quality audio
>30 seconds intro to get the song to monetize
>Download on some shitty compressed quality from some shitty youtube mp3 downloader app
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>>79689642
I think the dozens of millions that have starved under it might have something to say about it too
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>>79688035
dead meme
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>>79689642
Imagine having such a shitty ideology that you have to build walls to keep people IN your shitty society lol
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>>79689642
literally opposite of truth
every single modern leftist is lumpenprole, actual working people hate you
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>>79689642
ah yes, that explains all the people fleeing from socialist countries
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The medium doesn't matter if the soul is gone
Bring your community together, mentor others to be leaders, teach them to bring other communities together
Revive humanity, one person at a time
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>>79686401
Bro what if you like... bought music... on physical media.... or pirate it
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>>79685603
Damn right boy
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>>79689211
>elected
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I use Youtube with my really old Gmail account. Now, do I fuck with Google, at least enough, if using in Palemoon with edits Ublock, eMatrix, Decentraleyes & Pure URL? I keep cookies to keep log in always tough.
And if not....then should I use invidious.tube ? Or are there better Tube front ends?
And about invidious.tube....if I log in with Google, Do I log in with all my channels subscriptions from Youtube? And do I still give anything to Google?
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>>79689893
because socialism is not what you think it is.
socialism in general means abolition of private property. of course the ones who have private property also have the power, and they don't want that power to be taken away from them. that's why they are against the socialism. they are natural enemies of socialism.
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>>79689893
>all the people
who is that "all people" exactly? a small bunch of rich fags?
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>mail: Own Mailserver
>cloud: Own NAS using NextCloud
>communications: Own Element instance
>realizing the glowies probably have access to your VPS
Panicc
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>>79689665
Is there stuff on soulseek? Way to cherrypick
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>>79690380
>a small bunch of rich fags?
holy shit
socialists really are clinically retarded
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>>79690365
This is what peak delusion looks like
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>>79690358
Free tube is a nice desktop client
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>>79690365
>>79690380
sad attempt at a samefag, too
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>>79690480
This. You can buy a Raspberry Pi and host shit yourself, but i don't know how you host to public. These shitty ISP generally block you from opening ports and DoS attacks is a thing to consider.
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>>79685526
I am convincing them to expand and regularly interact with their real social circle IRL.
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>>79689833
just use a private tracker, bitch.
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>>79690365
Neither do people who don't want to live under your shitty socialist policies, because you're incapable of distinguishing between reality and utopian fantasy.

I guess anyone with a brain is an enemy of socialism.
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>>79690634
That and the fact that most VPS are not strong enough for all the crap I mentioned. A dedicated server would be more useful, but with ISP there will always be an inherent insecurity of the internet.
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>>79685599
>Even Europe is baffled by Twitter outright banning Trump.
Nah. We're still not over the fact that you actually elected Trump president (nearly twice).
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>>79686367
You're only realizing that now?
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>>79690643
>One to hear one song
>Need to wait just to get an invite
>Download entire discography
>Then seed
>Only wanted to hear 1 song
So this is how FOSS destroys your brain, huh?
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>>79687748
>First they came for the X, and I didn't say anything, because I wasn't an X...
>Then they came for the Y, and I didn't say anything, because I wasn't a Y...
>Then they came for me, and nobody said anything, because nobody was left...
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>>79690978
>First they came for the niggers, and I didn't say anything, because I wasn't a nigger...
>Then they came for the kikes, and I didn't say anything, because I wasn't a kike...
>Then they came for noone, and nobody said anything because society had already been cleaned up...
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>>79691015
anon, europeans are racist among themselves even back when they were all white, the truth is that we will always exhibit the us versus them mentality, it's just the extend
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>>79691051
I'm european and I'd stick up for any other european over a foreigner. Common enemies unite people.
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>>79685526
deleted my facebook and google more than 8 years ago, i didn't see the appeal then nor do i see the appeal now.
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>>79688418
>he thinks mass voter fraud didn't happen and that even if it did it's not problematic
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My normie friends were suddendly talking about moving out of whatsapp an Facebook

How stupid of an idea is just making getting them to discord for a private chatlog and a private voice chatroom for them?
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>>79691101
you are missing the point, I'm saying the "then they came for noone" will never happen, we are naturally hierarchical and discriminating, and will do so at every chance
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>>79686314
>technology cannot work if it's FOSS
you are a retarded troll
gr8 b8 m8, i r8 it 8/8
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>>79686401
>I can't just degoogle my phone
lineageOS or postmarketos
>>79686448
this anon fucks and is probably an oldfag
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>>79686478
>learned Linux embedded development
same, got my first job from stuff i learned from oldfag /g/ posters. not even kidding. 30yo now, making 80k at one job and 60k side gig/freelance consulting income (trying to grow it by 50% this year)
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>>79691186
Of course there will always be enmity between groups but that should not preclude you from fighting for yours. Its simple game theory that groups without sufficient self-preservation die out.
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>>79691173
Bad. They'll be purging next. Do signal, matrix (not main homeserver because it's older than the custom ones) or something selfhosted for 5$ a month total
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>>79686734
read a book called Stalin by Stephen Kotkin
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>>79686448
Based and bombpilled
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Trying FreeTube, and all looks good. Now, I imported my subs, but when imported my video history, the files are .html, while FreeTube ask me for .db files.
How do I change the file format, and make it work so FreeTube can accept it?

Also, does FreeTube have any way to have Youtube "Home" tab? Because it only have "popular" & "trending" tabs, but not the one showing the videos based on your search/subs.
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>>79688713
This.
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>>79691219
anon, that or just have kids, consider japan, land of homogeny and negative population growth
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>>79685526
It only works if high profile people and influential like Musk shill for it. You think people would have switched to Signal if Stallman asked the public to?
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>>79690365
>ocialism in general means abolition of private property.
china abolished private property, and yet they still have 600,000,000 people living on less than $125 USD per year in abject poverty. the inequality in their society is greater than ever in history.
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>>79691225
>They'll be purging next
They are more concerned about privacy, since some of them have their own bussiness and stuff
We are not even from the US,
I looked for a alt tech alternative, how is guilded?
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>>79691284
>that or just have kids
Does not work if your people are being threatened by replacement migration. Good on Japan for not doing that but.
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>>79685526
Only use two of them. Do all of you really use all of these?
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>>79691306
Only for the low/middle class, as you said the absolute wealth the elites have there is just insane compared to anywhere else
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>>79691325
>if your people are being threatened by replacement migration

what
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>>79691343
no the inequality cannot "affect the low/middle class" more than the other, that's not the way "inequality" works. the society has inequality, the classes do not have inequality.

you seem to be a novice.
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>>79691349
Ever heard of the "refugee crisis"? Millions of fighting age men from incompatible cultures let into european countries every year. With an islamic cultural background that leads to them having many kids.
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>>79691365
I mean the private property part
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>>79691380
lol @ murifats who've never been to Europe but seem to be experts on EU politics
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>>79691382
there is no private property in china. well, noone can own land, the CPC own all land, and I mean all. but the things on the land, the bulidings, the shoes, whatever, they can be owned by a person. but the land is a 70 year lease. too short, many Chinese are finding.
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>>79685526
Add Whatsapp to them, but people have been pretty much redpilled this week about Facebook.
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>>79685526
I've been sending my friends and family a brief summary, why they should switch to Signal. Most of them did, so I guess that's a pretty big win. We also migrated (most) of our groups there.
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My brother just told me to think of Twitter like a bakery and Trump like he was asking for a gay wedding cake...
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>>79691434
disappearing messages is so good, should be in every app. mine's set to a week, or one day depending on the group
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>>79690358
Use lbry
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>>79691380
bruh I'm not even european but their birthrate is below replacement rate even before the spoopy refugee crisis, and your concern makes no sense because japan is probably the most homogeneous developed country and yet they are still going into negative population growth
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>>79691444
yeah, those are really cool B) this week has really lifted my hope for humans, I think one of the greatest dangers of our time is big data.
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Dumb question. But are there any site or program to see if a Youtube channel is or have a parallel channel in any Youtube alternative?
>>79691454
Using it & Odisee too. But I ask about videos that arent in LBRY/Odisee.
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>>79691467
This is where you make a logical error. Populations cannot feasible grow ad infinitum, rather they grow while there are space and resources available, then shrink when overpopulated. Naturally this leads to a shrinking population growing again one or two generations later as there is an abundance of space and resources. Now if you want to genocide that population all you need to do is introduce foreigners to take the space and resources away as it opens up.
And this is the core difference between France and Japan. The French population is being replaced by arabs, whereas the Japanese population is shrinking right now but will grow again in due time thanks to their politicians not being traitors who funnel in masses of foreign invaders.
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>>79690568
i dont know i've never used soulseek
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>>79691516
Watch videos via newsboat + mpv, it's pretty nifty desu, I think Luke Smith has a config file that might suit you. This eliminated ads and the reason to have a YouTube account. You don't even need to use the browser.
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>>79685620
>You're so cute, anon. I really like you. Do you have Instagram?
>No..I have Pixelfed instead.
>Oh, I see... What about WhatsApp? You do have one, right?
>Hahaha...
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>>79691516
You need invidious:

https://invidious.tube/
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>>79691618
Is this how zoomers live? Big sad if true.
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>>79691656
Unfortunately. If it wasn't for friends and family I'd abandon WhatsApp right now.
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>>79691694
switch to signal and get them to follow you
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am I the only one who actually likes facebook as a product?
and instagram is even better, it's very simple but can be so much more
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>>79685557
Standard Oil was a good monopoly though. They literally dropped oil prices down to 2% of what they were 10 years before they hit their peak.
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>>79686448
Expect the problem is that the proverbial Rubicon has been crossed decades ago. We are reaping what was sow then.
Internet and meaningful privacy are mutually exclusive.
Consolidation is the evenutal outcome of any mature market. The positive feedback effects make the big boys bigger while crushing and eliminating the small fry that couldn't make it.
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>>79685526
There are no practical alternatives to google and amazon services for many purposes.
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>>79692633
Show me one Google service that doesn't have a practical alternative.
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>>79692640
My local government uses them to serve documents. The alternative is requesting them by mail, which isn't practical.
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>>79692670
That's your country's problem.
For the average user, there's an alternative to everything google offers.
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>>79686401
desi he na tu laude?
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>>79691618
>No..I have Pixelfed instead.
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>>79686448
this
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>all these schizos ITT
aren't you even a tiny bit embarrassed?
>you WILL install signal
>you WILL eat the bugs
>you WILL wear the mask
come to your senses already, no company gives a fuck about your texting your mom, asking her to bring home some mcdonalds
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>>79691625
About Invidious....when it means "log in with Google" It means log in with your Youtube account? And if yes, would it be wrong to do it?
And if its better to register manually ....can I import my Youtube subscriptions on Invidious?
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>>79689105
K(KDKEK HOW TF CAN SOMEONE LOOK THIS BAD
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>>79685603
That's why Parler failed lol
The open sausa bs is also going down as soon as the trannies developing them start seeing them being used by trumptards
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Big Tech vs Big Chud

I support Big Tech
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>>79693189
You are a complete idiot who has no understanding of how federated networks work.
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>>79685620

>Advocates alternative platforms, then links to monopoly platform.

You're doing it wrong asshole. Take your own advice.
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>>79685526
And simultaneously use 4chan that uses google trackers and captcha....
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>>79689151
>believes he didnt
Ngmi anon
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>>79685603
imagine thinking this has anything to do with trump vs biden, dems vs reps, etc

what a fucking small minded cockroach you are
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>>79685540
this
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>>79690945
Just use yotube then lol. Use front end app so you can get background music on your phone.
Also learn to enjoy music and get full experience with the whole álbum. Normie
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>>79687992
Underrated post.
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>>79693531
See >>79689833
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>>79692710
whatsup bhai
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>>79689648

Thanks for your work here. Your monetization method is a solid option - is the code for implementing it independent of the rest of the video platform? If not, please make it so and easy to integrate to any site that allows user-created content / subscriptions (possibly with its own name, independent of the video site itself/template etc).

Good on you for adding something and especially for making it open source. If you have the time, I'd suggest heading over to https://joinpeertube.org/ (reading over the new Peertube V3 blogpost may be useful) and contributing there, particularly with integrating your monetization system option so those who prefer it on their federated instances can use it. Some of your other work may be of help too. Thanks anon, you're making things better.
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>>79686818
First of all, the fact the tech companies have become de facto public space for political debate that otherwise would happen in "shared space" makes them public power more than just another private company. The very reason we are having this discussion is that past 15 years the tech companies have gained unprecendented power, and the legalities have failed for follow.

Second, the definition of free speech is much more than just legal definition of it (The censorship by government). Laws are the minimal rules we can agreed on - culture and norms of free speech are much broader and indeed much prelevant issue. And the culture of self-censorship or growingly accepted idea of cancel culture proves the issue is beyond just governing body. It's simply intelligently dishonest to close one's eyes from this issue and reduce the arguments only one tiny part of free speech, while conviniently ignoring the social media's power and influence for just 'rprivate company do what you want xD" attitude.
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>>79693745
>doesnt use open source app to avoid ads
>cares about quality when most phones are not up to flac standarts (only files that actually make a difference)
>just lisent to 320 its good enough
>u just got redpilled.
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>>79686707
>>79689642
No, one class of elites is just replaced by another class of elites. The businessmen and celebrities that you mention are replaced with Communist/Socialist Party officials.
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>>79686664
>>79688729
>>79693102
Please neck yourselves you disgusting wojakposters
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>Please neck yourselves you disgusting wojakposters
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>>79685526
Please tell me one good open source alternative to the maps apps from FAGMAN companies.
>inb4 OsmAnd/Maps.me
You can't even type in mailbox numbers for most localities. Fucking trash.
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>>79685526
>How are you convincing
I am not.
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>>79685526
i'm gonna look into this stuff now. The only way to stop people using all the propitary junk is if it's just as big and just as easy to use.
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The /pol/ equivalent of this thread got hijacked by a german VPN shill. It was all going pretty well too, many /pol/acks were convinced to pick up GNU/Linux and Ungoogled Chromium.
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>>79694993
>he can't critique our valid arguments so he goes for the wojak
seems like someone is offended
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>>79691771
this is the answer, I've successfully done this with about 90% of my friends / family
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>>79695138
good for him lol
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>>79687277
Only one I use is YouTube. I hope lbry takes off
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>>79695271
he answered two different takes on this though
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Anyone know how to get friends to move to Signal from Snapchat? I'm a zoomer so pretty much all of my friends use it, I was going to go on an autistic rant about snapchats data harvesting on my story but I decided its probably better not to.
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>>79695372
Get better friends
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>>79695372
Normalfags do not care about privacy and security, that's a lost cause.

Normalfags follow trends like sheep, show them the Elon Musk tweet and say everyone is picking up Signal now. "You don't want to be left behind do you?"
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>>79686835
have fun with low quality mp3s
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>>79695372
honestly some zoomers are more braindead than I've thought, especially the ones who claim to "know computers" lmao

I've had an argument with one of those fags today and he claimed that it was illegal for companies to harvest your data, so that isn't possible. The worst about that is just that is just that fucking smugness some people have about an obviously wrong statement.

It's like people are being programmed that anything that goes against the "mainstream" is a right wing extremist conspiracy or some shit like that.
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>>79686818
>You forgot an important part: BY GOVERNMENT OR OTHER BODY THAT CAN DENY YOUR GENERAL RIGHTS, not "lol, I got banned from twatter".
>Please stop pretending you're dumb and just admit you want to be fucking racist and hateful on social media like a dumb little spoiled, hateful child.

i am the ceo of (((FAANG))).
i am permanently banning you (@transrights29439) from twitter and any other site I find you on.
nigger.
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>>79696180
OMG STOP BASEDLENCYING US
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>>79696196
fucking word filter
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>>79695680
SoulSeek, buying CDs and ripping them, Bandcamp, buying the actual file from a music store...
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>>79685526
>BOYCOTT BIG TECH
>THEY SILENCED YOU
>NOW JUST KInd of uhhhhhhhhhhhh don't use them and hope that does something
>o-oops enough people still use them for them to stay in business and my alternatives are all shit
You tried.

>>79686401
>Spotify is the only viable option for music.
If you're a FUCKING RETARD that streams low quality music instead of having a local collection and don't know that bandcamp and soundcloud exist.
>reddit
>wojak
>I NEEEEEEEEEEEED whatsapp
Just kill yourself.
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>>79689566
if people aren't going to give up their big social media for alternatives, they aren't going to give up technology.
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>>79696267
Hey idiot, nobody is expecting everyone to drop big tech. That being said, if even a decent portion decides to dump platforms like twitter and facebook, that not only badly hurts their revenue, but also diminishes their control on information.

Decentralization is the future.
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>>79696136
>I've had an argument with one of those fags today and he claimed that it was illegal for companies to harvest your data, so that isn't possible. The worst about that is just that is just that fucking smugness some people have about an obviously wrong statement.

Put him out of his misery, he's in great pain.
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>>79696136
yeah I don't think I can convince them to switch because most of them don't give 2 shits about privacy, zucced once again
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>>79686818
>it's not censorship if i redefine censorship and then get shot by an angry mob!
You really aren't this dumb, right?
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>>79693189
>That's why Parler failed lol

Parler failed because it used amazon's servers and amazon did not want to host them.
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>>79689252
based lukecel
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>>79689605
>>79689786
>imagine saying a mainstream service is good for discovering obscure music.
It is.
I used to be like you. Then I actually tried Spotify. It's honestly one of the best resources to find music you can't find anywhere else. And if you actually like listening to music.
Stop being a poorfag. And don't be a retard like the last guy and say "but torrenting!"
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>>79689248
>I like forcing people to pay for others' medical needs by raising taxes and shitting on already stagnant and low wages
Kill yourself my man.

>>79691467
>birthrate is below replacement rate
>the solution is to discourage reproduction and import foreigners instead
Why do these threads always invite the dumbest posters?

>>79693262
I laugh at this every time someone on this board spergs about privacy. Shyeah bruh, you care so much about privacy. That's why you're here and not one of the altchans that uses in-house non-google captcha and allows anonymizers like VPNs and TOR, right?

>>79696136
>fucking kids these days reeeeeeeeeeee
As if soilennials, xoomers, boomers, etc. weren't exactly the same in their teens. The big problem with millenials, particularly the types that congregate here, is they blame zoomers for the same shit they did. Fuck, I remember us laughing at juvenile memes and YTPs back in the day, and now all of you faggots are just screeching at zoomers for finding the same shit funny now. Hypocritical bitches.
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>>79691618
And then ask yourself a question: do you really need a hookup that badly? If you're looking for a wife material she won't have Instagram and if you're looking for quick hookup - fap and get on with your day
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>>79696381
I will never support subscription services for entertainment media out of principle.
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>>79696464
That's a much better response than saying it's not good for the things it is in fact good for.
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>>79696399
I'm a zoomer myself lol, I don't have any problem with people finding anything funny. It's more like that smug "computer kid" who thinks he's hot shit because he "knows" computers by using Chrome instead of IE and Discord type of person that annoys me.

haha xd internet explorer bad only old stupid people use that lol hahah
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>>79685603
Mastodon is by a raging leftist and pretty sure peertube was started in france.
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>>79696581
Sounds like hypothetical kid knows a good bit about computers in the modern era, rather than knowing a good bit about outdated shit that has no modern application. Even businesses are phasing out their legacy web apps that require the trash that is IE.
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When will they ( you know who I mean) come after 4chin?
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>>79696859
That's not the point. I just can't fucking stand people feeling superior or knowledgeble because of using certain software. Same with people on plebbit who feel so much better than "winfags" just because they "managed" to install Manjaro. Those people are so obsessed with themselves.

It just fucking grinds my gears when a person like that thinks he's some kind of computer expert and lawyer and will argue that Whatsapp ACKHUALY isn't collecting your data because it's illegal. I've already spoken to two people who believe this crap, it's really incredible how oblivious some people are.
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Is there something like Freetube available for Android?
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>Try to upload a video in LBRY
>Have to invest some "coin" from your LBRY wallet
So if I spend it, then I cant upload anymore, unless I spend real money to get more wallet? Thats retarded.
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>>79686401
>3.Spotify is the only viable option for music.
Tidal or torrents
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>>79697151
for me it's amazon music. it's 8 bux with prime.
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>>79697214
but amazon music is not very good without amazon music HD
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The problem with social media alternatives is that the bigcorp is always "better" and the ones you try to convince to move over, will usually just end up using the same social media once again.

Take YouTube for example,
Sure, peertube exists, but..
1. It's too "complicated" for normies and boomers.
>What? I have to go to an extra page and *read*?
2. Some people love their SSO and big corps are pushing this. (Shit like, log in with google.)
Now that they have tasted the sweet fruit of SSO, these lazy asses will likely not use independent services.

3. There is no smooth transition.
It would be lovely if a user could transfer their data from their big-corp accounts.
Like YouTube playlists, Instagram images ...

I'm sure these big corps could get some competition, but it would require smart marketing moves, which requires money.
I can really not think of many social media that the corporations in OPs images struggle against (then again, I don't really care about the services).
I guess the only app/service that took over a corporate app would be Discord taking over Skype.
These alternatives would have to do something similar.
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>>79697399
>mainstream options
>better
The ONLY thing that make mainstream option as big they are is just that most content is there, and people are lazy.
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>>79696399
>I like forcing people to pay for others' medical needs by raising taxes and shitting on already stagnant and low wages
The USA is already in the top 10 countries in welfare spending by capita. Where is all this shit going? Just keep the taxes the same, but stop dumping it all straight into the ghetto. Spread it more evenly among every citizen.
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>>79697399
Better yet, let the people suffer a little more.
3 things will happen:

1. Boomers will leave tech forever, and maybe brainfucked underage normalfags will be forced to leave because of it's parents.
2. Brainfucked normalfags will become a literal zombies, which in turn will trigger the boomers even more.
3. A little more clever people will find descentralized and distributed network and they will establish itself there.

You just need to do absolutely nothing. If people ask you for alternatives, offer them descentralized and distributed services. If they don't understand, just say they need to understand what the fuck you are talking about or just abandon the internet. Let they have the taste of what they have done to internet.
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>>79686564
We aren't in a free market. This is a corporatist society. Governemnt contracts, lobbying, bailouts, etc.
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You know if all the normies suddenly changed to FOSS they'd still block you schizo-fags. You don't have an audience cause you have nothing useful to say. Half your internet army is paranoid boomers too afraid to leave their home.
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I never got this "sticking it to the big man" BS. You jump on board some god damn tech, you help make it popular, then its "jump ship" and on to the next shit to destroy. Firefox is a big example. Retards.
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>>79689605
>>79689786
I've become convinced that the only fags who actually believe this are projecting normies themselves. I've run into quite a few artists that I cannot find much of in my trackers or even on YouTube at times, maybe if I'm lucky they still have some of their discography on Bandcamp at a decent price. That's saying nothing of foreign/non-English music.
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>>79686818
This is so perfectly smug and wrong that it has to be bait.
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>>79686131
Luke is such a larping faggot. He knows his shit with Linux and should've just stuck with that instead of talking any retard politics
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So... that guy should have been forced to make the cake for the lesbian couple then?
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How is guilded? Any opinions?
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>>79685603
Bait or not, shit like this is why I'm no longer a Leftist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufrL0ZTkudE
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>>79686289
/pol/ should plan an operation to fool the left in to believing that closed-source software is nazi protection; this way Windows might become free software once we mobilise these leftist and those leftist eventually are going to contact leftists in high-ranking positions so that big-tech destroys itself

Com'on we can let this happen&we can do this.
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>>79701299
/pol/ is just full of Twitter activists, it's very rare instances when they managed to come together to effectivelly pull something like the "ok hand= white power" and fool the retards in media
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>tfw my friends all use Snapchat
It's infuriating. Shit can't even be emulated, as far as I can tell. And there isn't a way in hell I can convince them to use something else.
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>>79685526
What's the alternative to Amazon?

YouTube at least has PeerTube.
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Brick and mortar, which is unfortunate because covid-19. Go early, wear your fucking mask, social distance, use hand sanitizer right after, wash exposed skin when back home. Amazon's so shit I'd rather risk getting covid-19 than use it.
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>Go early, wear your fucking mask, social distance, use hand sanitizer right after, wash exposed skin when back home
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>>79686401
>reddit
>wojack
Checks out.
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>Invidious subscriptions still take +8 hours to update
Come on. That is why I have more hope for FreeTube; altough I will still ise Inviduous.
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>>79686818
For how often people like you post that xkcd comic, you don't seem to get that it applies both ways. If Twitter decides to take actions its consumers don't like, its consumers are free to look for alternatives. There's no requirement that the reason is because Twitter broke the law.
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>webhosting is impossible because I am a retard
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How is Tidal? Still too big tech to be used? I really want to get off of Spotify.
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>>79702006
covid deniers are the scum of this fucking planet.
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>>79701878
Going yourself to a store
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>>79702099
It's a cold bro. Go look up what a coronavirus is.
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>>79685526
So, like, people legitimately care about this shit?

Re-examine your personal lives, anons, please.
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>social media found to be as addictive as hard drugs
*crickets*
>social media is being heavily influenced by local govts to incite mass genocide in (X third world country here)
*crickets*
>social media is being usurped by Russian and Iranian troll farms to facilitate brexit
*crickets*
>social media is being usurped by Russian and Iranian troll farms to facilitate trump
*crickets*
So only when they initiate a pseudo-crackdown on white redneck racists purely out of publicity is when you care.
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>>79702066
I said nothing like that and 100% agree with you. Twitter can ban you for whatever reason they want, specifically if you're a racist, hateful fucking twat like the Trumpfucks and Trump himself, but you can indeed go look for an alternative, which if it attracts enough idiots can be shut down by someone else because they don't want that sort of talk.
Freedom of speech is limited to the freedom to not harm others, and being a hateful, racist, violence-inciting, shitcunt that directly attacks people, lies to the harm of others, and so on, isn't protected by free speech to begin with. But if some outlier wants to provide a safe space for such speech to occur and its providers and other users are okay with this, then there's basically nothing to stop them.
Twitter didn't break the law; Twitter just did what they though was right to protect its users, and they're well within their rights to do so. The only time it becomes illegal and crosses a line is when you provide an informed, intelligent viewpoint on something that doesn't provoke, attack, insult, or otherwise cause others harm and you are restrained and/or silenced by your government because of what you said. This is what freedom of speech is, not "baww twitter banned me".
If you don't understand that simple fucking concept, maybe you need to get some more education. There are people around the world who are forcibly silenced by their governments by threats, imprisonment, and death for what they said and here you fucking privileged racists sit crying over fucking goddamn TWITTER not letting Trump's racist, hateful ass post his bullshit.
Grow the fuck up, /g/. This is the end of it. This is how things are, not the deluded psychopathic bullshit in your mind.
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>covid deniers are the scum of this fucking planet.
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I like how you pretend anyone would actually talk to you. Cute.
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>The only time it becomes illegal and crosses a line is when you provide an informed, intelligent viewpoint on something that doesn't provoke, attack, insult, or otherwise cause others harm and you are restrained and/or silenced by your government because of what you said.
So the implication is that the government can restrict speech that isn't an "informed, intelligent viewpoint," as long as someone is insulted. For someone claiming to be concerned about oppressed minorities, you sure do expect the government to gatekeep speech.
> There are people around the world who are forcibly silenced by their governments by threats, imprisonment, and death for what they said
So you should emphatically support users who feel they are being silenced finding new platforms that don't kowtow to power and popular opinion, right? What's good for the goose is good for the gander, the same platforms and privacy methodologies can be used by those who are oppressed for their views.
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>>79691618
If the bitch don't GNU then she can't git with me.
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>close your account
>Google
Good one, Anon



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