>>79675036I don't like diversity.
nobody else uses it
>>79675044Go on Pleroma. They are based and redpilled.
>>79675036I only socialize irl.
>>79675057You are on /g/ faggot. Nobody believes you.
>>79675036nothing on it interests me
>>79675097>>79675224Where are you faggots gonna talk when 4chan gets taken down?
>>79675036>fed-iverse>logo is literally a pentagramI'll pass
>>79675265I suspect 4chan doesn't fulfill a need for me right now and is only a habit. When 4chan gets shutdown I wont talk anywhere.
>>79675036I don't have friends or hobbies.
>>79675044> No Fumor kek that's wrong
>>79675416it would be a sad day indeed but if the chan is gone than I won't either.
>>79675097>>79675224>>79675422imagine being this much of a faggot that a network with more advanced tech topics "doesn't interest you". also you can just make friends there. also email@example.com raped me
>>79675320although based, its a community driven social network and its open source. just sayin', don't have to join.
What is it?
>>79676019it's the new parler.
>>79675803>implying I want friends
Gargron ate my ass and then stopped answering my DMs
>>79676025I don't really know what Parler was. How do I know this won't get taken down? What's the advantage over just using 4chan?
normies need influences to see software as socially acceptable to use
I have no reason to.>>79675057This.
my reason is that social media is a cancer.
suggest one app for it other than Tusky?
>>79675036I dont like non-anonymous social networks
I'm literally on fedi just to follow lain and some pleroma admins.
>>79675036only crazy people use it
people who can't host their own shit tend to be incredibly boring
>>79675036Started using it this week through dick Masterson's instance. I wonder his hard it would be for governments to crack down on it if they REALLY wanted to
>>79676025Wrong>>79676166It works by having a bunch of servers that can all interact with each other. You can even run your own, so you can't get banned
>>79678604Host your instance in China or some other country that doesn't care about people's feelings.
>>79675265Probably one on of these webring chans. Or some of these niche ones like lain or wizard or something.
Federation is a complete dead end and intrinsically retarded.What you really want is true decentralization.You want Zeronet.
>>79675036i just discovered it yesterdayi made a thread about it (with mastodon pic)i honestly seem to be perfect user for such obscure autism network but i cant make myself actually to create accountcant find a reason to use iti feel i will get overwhelmed with all the posts and users and instancesalso i dont have money to buy hosting for my instance
>>79679966Pleroma can run on rpi, dont you have one lying around?
>>79680047nopeand even if i did whats the use in this casewhy cant i use my pc
>>79678696>can't get bannedNot exactly true, you can be "banned"... but only by some instance's admin which would vanish you only from his and his users' sight. There's no central authority so other instance admins decide whom to ban (if at all) on their own.
>>79675036Seething trannies.They almost grew a new dick out of their asses when gab moved to mastodon.
>>79680113lol and what if you created account on that instancethey can delete your account because it is stored on THEIR instancethis whole shit is decentralized in a way "we dont use one instance like facebook or twitter we use many facebooks and twitters who are interconnected"
>>79680084Because you'd want to have the instance running and processing data live.>>79680133Free speech oriented shitposters and ironic lolicon weebs were there before the trannies. Those pockets still remain even if most of their instances migrated from GNU Social to Pleroma by now.>>79680146Self-host, pleroma runs well on a RPi. That's the final solution, be your own master.
>>79680171>Self-hostthats like actually not buyng some shared hosting but instead doing it from homeisnt that complicated shit that i even have to contact my ISP ?
>>79675036I don't use social media. I would use it if I did, however.
>>79675036open source social media is still social mediainstant gratification and overstimulation are still encouraged
>>79675265i'm noti come here when i'm bored or if i need an answer to an incredibly niche question, i don't actually care about the site
>>79676019fediverse is a colloquial term for ActivityPub, which is an open standard for social media software to interconnect. Practically, it means a network of arbitrary websites running different frontends (examples include mastadon, pleroma, friendica, gab, and pixelfed) can collect data from each other and present it correctly to all of their users, even if the users have only visited a single website in the fediverse. Or another explanation: you can host your own social media website and it will interact with other users on their own websites
Someone explain how the fuck mastodon worksIt clearly says I can follow people on ANY Mastodon server, and yet I made a mstdn.social account and I can only log into mstdn.social, no other server will let me log into it without a new account specific to that server
>>79675320But why a 64 Chevelle? Weren't they considered too small/european back then?
>>79678952zeronet is a fed honeypot by design, as it allows websites to serve you arbitrary information, causes you to serve that information to other users whole, and does not encrypt any of it. any website that took the fancy could host CP in the background of its homepage and you'd end up distributing that.The better solution is Freenet, which is encrypted, serves only chunks of files rather than whole files, and does not rely on "has this user visited the site" to host chunks. This gives the entire system a level of plausible deniability, as you cannot know what you are serving and neither can anybody else.
>>79680411You can still follow people on other servers
>>79677681What's wrong with Tusky?
>>79680457No I can't
>>79680411It's like an email, you have your email address on one provider and thats where you log in but still you are able to communicate with ppl what have their email addresses elsewhere
>>79680532are you looking up a server that the kikes at mastadon blocked from their instance for not kowtowing to globalist alphabet-people cancel culture?
>>79680502They put a hardcoded block on logging into Gab once they switched to mastodon.
>>79680239Unless you're self-hosting an instance that has thousands of members, your bandwidth requirements aren't going to hit "contact my ISP" levels.
>>79680561I don't know. It's baraag.net, I'm trying to follow some porn artists
>>79675036The name and logo are enough for me to avoid it like the plague
>>79680611See this>>79680561Just create your acc on some pleroma instance like i dunno neckbeard or spc etc., those guys are pretty chill
>>79680450If you use Zeronet with Tor not one packet will leak to the clearnet and all your concerns are moot.Besides, all federated systems are 100% clearnet at this point. Instances have to rely on moderation in order to avoid things like CP which is completely retarded.
>>79675036It seems to me that federation of instances only serve to enable the receiving of upcummies by the users.If instances were anonymous boards without signup, there would be literally no reason for two boards to communicate with each other.Sure, you might want to bundle threads from different boards but you just need some kind of aggregator for that.I'm quite happy without discord faggotry in my life tbqhf.
>>79680611>>79680647>>79680532>>79680411Quick history, might get some details wrong: Mastodon creator was all about freedom of speech, was happy about nicely developing adoption rates, noticed it came from some alt-righters, grudgingly implemented a way to block other servers and their users and subsequently started blocking lots of stuff that's not exactly "clean" content (alt-right, porn, what have you). Solution: create your account on a server that's chill and doesn't block other servers, either a really small "alternative" one, often privately hosted and with dubious uptime, or one of the big ones that are also chill for their own reasons. I mainly use it to follow loli artists (just follow their links from pixiv), and therefore created my account on pawoo.net, a Japanese server that doesn't get its panties in a bunch about a few fucking pixels on a screen.Note that Mastodon (and most Fediverse apps for that matter) are still slow and buggy and shit, some things won't work and I advise to do all account maintenance/follows through your browser on PC, not an app (I use Tusky on Android). Otherwise it is an ok experience, and hey at least it's more permissive than Twitter!
I use it every day its gud
>>79680450How is I2p
>>79680239Nah just open a port and you're good to go. Most ISPs let you open port 80
>>79680581what would be the minimum internet speed required to smoothly self host this , or anything for that matter
>>79679966Fosstodon.org is cool if you can control your autism
>>79681075I2p is essentially Tor without exit nodes. Everything you can do with I2p can be done with Tor onion services.
Any of you know any cool matrix servers?
Where can I blog on fediverse?
>>79680146You can migrate your account and take all your data to your new instance
>>79675036I do use it. Doesn't mean you have to.
>>79681084Looking at virtualhost speeds, any middling urban connection speed should work, 50mbps+ upload
>>79675052Parler twitter gab refugees won't like it, there are anarchists and trannies in the anime free speech zone.
>>79681435rightflakes defederated for just this reason
>>79681280>50mbpsis that whats normal these days lol?i have 5 Mbit lmao
>>79680146You can self host or you can pick instances that are ok with your shitposts. You can keep your data exported.>>79675803>firstname.lastname@example.org raped meYou paid attention to sjw's bots. He gets jealous.
>>79681265how can you migrate it if you dont know if they are going to ban you or even shut down their instance
>>79675036Social media was a mistake.
>>79681472Yea, and in record time too in the case of the "muh free speech" gablins. Good riddance. I hope the effect persists.
>>79680932Mastodon came late into fediverse's history, used existing pockets of users to bootstrap and promote itself as an SJW twitter "without Nazis".Mastodon devs deliberately kept misleading narrative up that the project is "a social network" and "the fediverse" while keeping shut about stuff that they built upon and in parallel blocking and spreading malicious rumours about remaining GNU Social servers.Riding on the wave of popularity gained from SJW and tranny crowds, mastadon devs started introducing changes to some of the ambiguously described in ostatus specs elements and then refused to cooperate with what little remained of GNU Social devs. This introduced massive interop issues, broken threads, DDOS waves and some database corruption. Then it was sufficiently big to just dump it for ActivityPub. Pleroma was designed as a clean room implementation of AP too but it still maintained ostatus endpoints until recently (lain dumping it actually caused at least some butthurt and autistic sperging from the old crowd who were also early Pleroma adopters - even before it had a working backend and existed only as a shell client for GNU Social)
>>79675036I don't care about any of these gay new age platforms that have been popping up since the tantrums of facebook and twitter. I don't care for ANY social media. Except for 4chan, of course
>>79681591It was mostly FSE's bunch of jilted gabfugees and the fediverse clown posting traps and mocking them for being a bunch of fun hating old men. I remember it, it was very funny. It's debatable whether they saw it because Gab idiots fucked up federation almost immediately and it was only capable of spewing trash onto federated timelines, with Gab users not seeing anything from the outside.>>79681648Nice tripcode, namefag.
>>79681555Some mistakes turn out ok.>>79681628Mastodon is the first thing that had users. Gnu social had almost no one. It may have been later but the fediverse wouldn't even have users without it. And the chinese cartoon lovers especially (moon rune demonologists) had about equal user bases to the lgbt crowd for a long while.
>>79681499I feel your pain ruralbro
>>79681695>I remember it, it was very funny.Me too. Posting cute girl to remember and commemorate the occasion.I think Zenmichi (?) "Gablin Slayer" SJW and others -IIRC even Lain- did (fag)god's work back then, winning against the Gablin invasion.>It's debatable whether they saw it because Gab idiots fucked up federation almost immediatelyThey still had time to ban many of the free speech instances first, some around day one. So yes, the admins reacted.Ironically they and the gablins were spending the same week / month whining about how the Mastodon side of things had banned them.You don't happen to have a record, do you?
>>79677681>>79681849Just use bloat in a browser: https://git.freesoftwareextremist.com/bloat/about/>>79681910It's a shame zemichi left. I remember seeing screencaps but only have these two propaganda macros saved.
>>79681729that's more like in a capital in the middle of europe though. down speed is ok, 100mbit and up, but upload for some reason is laughably slow (10mbit max) if you're not paying out your ass for a corporate account. fuck UPC/Magenta.
>>79681941> I remember seeing screencaps but only have these two propaganda macros saved.Damn. Was he on smuglo.li back when?
>>79682066Yeah, he didn't rejoin anywhere else after smug died.
>>79682123Thanks for the images. I wish I had time to archive things back when. Maybe the past instance owner can still be found somewhere?> he didn't rejoin anywhere else after smug diedUnfortunate, but I'm guessing he will be back.
>>79682123>>79681628>>79681910wtf, what even is any of this? what internet drama did I miss? am only vaguely aware some free speech vs. alt-right thing going on in regards to fediverse/mastodon comparable to 8ch back then. but what's with the traps everybody? was happily in my japan porn bubble here, but am thankful for any very high-level summary or intro link.
>>79677850Pretty much yeah
>>79682551>wtf, what even is any of this?It relates to the time when Gab joined the fediverse. They adopted a mastodon instance and went in touting "free speech!" "federation!" horray and so on.But imagine what would happen if you connected a retarded echo chamber (far less accustomed to criticism then than /pol/ or even reddit) to all boards here. People shitposted back and did a great job at it. Lots of other opinions and lots of traps and lolis too.Gab couldn't take it and defederated most of the free speech / anime instances.Apart from that, the more LGBTQ instances banned Gab themselves and vice versa. Gab/its users then whined about it for weeks or months. It was amusing. Unfortunately one of the main instances (smuglo.li) where a central figure "zemichi" of this was is offline now so I can't immediately post more stuff.
>>79682551The Gabbening:>Gab decides to switch software, chooses Mastodon partially to troll the trannies entrenched in that ecosystem>Mastadon trannies are seething and panicking, put hardcoded blocks against logging in to Gab into their mobile clients, add Gab to their blocklists and later pressure F-Droid into delisting Gab's own fork of their app>previous refugees from Gab who mostly settled around FSE instance are still mad at Torba and are throwing insults>other Pleromafags are either mildly concerned about a wave of clueless boomers transforming the place (like Mastodon did) or prepared to sow chaos and shitpost for laughs>the more tech oriented side of Pleroma is taking bets on how much Gab will fuck up>Gab joins the fediverse, it's a broken mess>Gab dev and some confused Gab users get flooded with either insults, anime pictures (it was after Torba's anti-anime episode, I think) or smug, extremely obnoxious clown posts with Astolfo pictures attached to them>dev meltdowns in very amusing ways>Gab breaks federation and effectively blocks anything outside>Mastodon trannies are still seething about it to this dayThe scale of the trap posting wasn't really all that huge but it was very entertaining to watch as it was happening.Stuff about Mastodon effectively coming in with good PR and replacing the existing network with its own filth is another matter entirely. It's probably important to note that the original fediverse was mostly tech/FOSSfags, some MLP horsefuckers and mostly harmless anarchocommies - the landscape changed when gamergate happened and mass bannings on Twitter started happening. Difference is that the new free speech crowd formed its own pocket and everyone coexisted mostly in peace.
The BASEDlist has not been posted yet?fediblock.org/blocklist/
>>79675036The ideal solution to social media is to return to people having their own unique and interesting personal websites and "following" each other via RSS. Any other features offered by social media websites are bloat which could be done better by other individual programs, like having a seperate IM program instead of Facebook messenger, and doing long-term/formal messages via email.I like Peertube though and would use it if I made videos, as although you could host your videos directly on your blog too, it would be impractical both in speeds and costs, but hosting on a Peertube instance instead reduces that with peer-to-peer technology.
Luke Smith shilling Fedi nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOiCACmjKBM
>>79683165You could use something like twtxt - a tab-separated text file put and updated somewhere where first field is a date and the second one is a message. Following someone means just adding the URL of the feed to a list for fetching, the rest is just a parser and UI for prettyprinting a timeline.https://github.com/buckket/twtxtThere's an extension that encapsulates this in a PGP clearsign too.
don't know what it is, don't care what it is
>>79675036Can somebody point me to a /tech/ focused instance? I don't want to scroll through endless tranime posts.
>>79683165Activitypub is like a less silly more realtime rss. A futher development of atom-> ostatus.There is not much point to using rss for any such thing now. It was useful when it was close to the website html, just stripped.
>>79675036It gets boring once you realize Twitter is only fun for trolling. Also the creator of Mastodon is a faggot
>fediverse>fednice try, FBI
What's the best instance for non tranny loliposting, outside of pawoo?
Isn't Mastodon for lefties and Anarchists/Communist people?The project leaders are, so I don't know why right-wingers would go there.
>>79681515If your concerns are genuine and not a troll just host your own server. I'm confident my server will not shut down because its very well funded by the community, and because I don't say anything that will get me banned.
Why are all Peertube instances trash? And no, I'm not fucking privileged enough to own my own fucking server and run my own instance because that requires dealing with credit cards/banks to pay for which are for drones with no freedom and are constantly being monitored and given a "credit score" to judge your fucking life with.
>>79675044Gab is technically fediverse.
>>79683208Not even shilling good instances..
>>79686455So tell us some good ones?
>>79675036I tried using it once, but a very weird person got federated into my instance.Basically this person was an absolute CCP (Chinese Communist Party) shill. I'm not talking about a Chinese account made to lie about the status of life in China, but rather an American person who was touting every day about how the CCP was so incredibly great and how they were saving up to escape America and move into Mainland China to live under the government CCP. In that moment I realized I was in the wrong instance and deleted my account. A few days later I realized I didn't really want to have any sort of social media.I have nothing against Fediverse, I think it's great technology. I simply do not want to be close in any way shape or form to people like that.
>>79684843Go to a Pleroma instance and look for the "Known Network" timeline. That will be a stream of everything that instance can see. You will figure it out from there. >>79684976There seems to be a natural split. Mastodon for the left and trannies, Pleroma for the right and funposting instances. You can find exceptions to this but that seems to be how it is settling out. Doesn't really matter much because they can still federate with each other. >>79684199mastodon.sdf.org
>>79686782Are you that glowpilled to be offended by that?
>>79681265man, what a piece of shitthank god his is federated and trannies cant silence dt
>>79681435>anime free speech zone>anarchists and tranniesEvery. Single. TIme.
>>79681265>https://mastodon.technology/about/morelulz scroll down to his block lists. This guy must spend all day building it.
Mastodon arose from the idealistic open-source software movement, designed to let anybody run their own social media site. But it was never intended to support something like Gab. While Gab has no official political affiliation, it's known as a haven for far-right or explicitly fascist users too extreme for bigger networks. Its hands-off moderation approach is antithetical to many supporters of Mastodon, whose creator has officially stated he's "completely opposed to Gab’s project and philosophy."
>>79687107>free speech extremists
>>79687234Gab seems to have broken most of the Mastodon community. Before they where all about freedom. After Gab picked it up they frantically hard coded blocks in to all their apps and obsess about blocking users and sites from their instances now. I am convinced if they could go back in time they wouldn't have licensed their software under GPL specifically because of Gab. Now they are obsessed with control. Why the fuck would any normal person join an instance if it had this on the front page?
>>79687284>free speech extremistsLooks legit to mefediblock.org/blocklist/
>>79687338This is again just a bunch of instances. If someone insists that accepting confederate flags or a stupid CoC is a requirement for the group, many will go along.
>>79684214What's "silly" about RSS? It allows you to have a wide variety of different websites in your feed, and has extra functionality like being able to organise and tag feed sources, being able to easily download and export to different programs (e.g you use it to act like a YouTube subscription feed and have it open the items in mpv, without the need to visit the website). Activitypub on the otherhand restricts you to just other fediverse websites and you cant script and extend it like RSS. Also you need an account to use activitypub whilst RSS doesn't need one.
>>79687338>mastodon.technology does not federate with overtly fascist instancessure, whatever>Additionally we will refuse to federate with instances that themselves choose to federate with fascist instancesNow that's just retarded, especially considering federation with every other instance is the default state. Might as well use a whitelist of your safe space instances instead of a blacklist at that point.
>>79687234>Its hands-off moderation approach is antithetical to many supporters of MastodonIn reality: >>79682864 >>79682904 and so on.That said yes, you can moderate in a more hands-off way.
>>79687234>builds tool to enable freedom of communication>upset when used for communicationbaka
>>79675265>He thinks I come here to talkLmao. I'm here to mindlessly shitpost when I'm bored, if it no longer exists then I'd find something else to do, like reading or some shit.
>>79675036Nothing personal kid
>>79680864>If you use Zeronet with Torthen you must take it on faith that the tor network, which was built from the ground up for and until relatively recent exclusively run by the US DOD, presumably hand in hand with US intelligence agencies
>interested in pleroma>main developer is a ironically gay german with baby hands who pretends to be a japanese girlnah
>>79686455>Not even shilling good instanceshe's telling people to host their own server, the best instance is your own
>>79686334find a host that accepts cryptofind a spare laptop and port forward if you have a static address
How would someone go about hosting a website in the fediverse? Honestly, just some wordpress shit to post fashy stuff and maybe link a podcast.
>>79688091If they made that, then couldn't nazis or whomever they don't like, still use it?
>>79688528>hosting a website in the fediverseyou're not thinking correctlyeach activitypub-based project is something that a website can host, typically as a subdomainwordpress can act as the primary domain, but you have to run a server with a subdomain as the public connection point if you're going to use the main domain for something else
>>79675803>also email@example.com raped meI bet you liked it though :^)
>Look for a cool community >Everything is either tranny central or a pol fiesta Just want some place to hang with chill people that don't care about politics at all.
>>79688576Maybe I should get more educated on it.
>>79688599pick a server/client you like and it'll probably have a pretty decent install guide
>>79688595I have the same mindset. I wouldn't mind having my white nationalist centric site and then one where politics are mostly shunned. It is grating to do that shit constantly.
>>79688608Could you recommend some or one?
>>79688621they're all basicaly clones of existing social media websites. what's your poison?
>>79688646Just some blogging shit, I guess. Saw some others shilling i2p, but haven't looked in to that much.
>>79688683medium-like: plumemicroblog: pleromafacebook: friendica
>>79688693Plume seems right. I saw that earlier and it *seemed* to be what I was looking for, but didn't know if there were better alternatives.
>>79687392>homomisic...what?I swear they’re just making up words at this point
>>79688721I've never heard that in my life as well.
>>79688693Not the dude you were talking to but both plume and friendica look pretty good.
>>79675097>>79675224Be the change you want to see in the world. #WhiteSamsonOption
>>79682904Kek amazing summaryThanks anon
>>79688721it's a less retarded version of "homophobic" that acknowleges that fear is a different emotion than disgust or hatred.but it's still defective in that it fails to differntiate homosexuality from other homos, like homogeneiety.so all told I would still consider the neologism a failure.
>>79680864Wrong.Any page can ping the clearnet even with Tor enabled by simply requesting a picture.Zeronet is a real clusterfuck
>check pleroma's servers>sort by most users / posts>https://shitposter.clubI guess I'll give it a try then
>>79688205you do realize you don't have to follow me
>>79691399How's your skirt, lain? Feeling comfy?
>>79690258Every federated site, tor service or i2p site can link to the clear net. That is a retarded non-argument.The point is that if you use zeronet over tor you won't upload to the clearnet.Also, the only thing that is a clusterfuck at this point is the constant shilling against decentralized solutions in this thread.Zeronet is a great censorship resistant decentralized solution that works *today*.
>>79690557why are you choosing the one with the most users? It'll hurt more when SPC gets shut down for hate speech.
>>79690557>>79691969It's fine, moonman is happy about getting new friends.
>>79691969>>79692152desu, big part of the fediverse is dogshit, like every social media. From what I see shitposter.club do have some nice shit from time to time.
Are there any of these fediverse places where everybody is anon?
>>79681435Okay, you've sold me
>>79675265I would be posting on kohlchan exclusively
>>79680146>they can delete your account because it is stored on THEIR instancethen just don't pick the wrong adminWhat's the difference between getting banned from a pleroma instance and getting banned from twitter? I won't spoonfeed you, think about it yourself.
>>79675036idk, what's yours, Luke?
>>79678604Dick, nice, is he still covering for pedophiles?
>>79683154>freespeech, nazism, fascism, antisemitismOne of these things is not like the other!
>>79689144it's funny how people who would be offended at calling gays homos use it themselves when "defending" them
>>79692400It's actually doable with Pleroma's MRF system. Shitposter.club has a prototype, limited system where a message from you is modified by the server automatically as one coming from @bonzibuddy if you type bonzibuddy in the subject field. It would be trivial to write a rule making every post of every user come from a single anon account.