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>>79675036
I don't like diversity.
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nobody else uses it
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>>79675044
Go on Pleroma. They are based and redpilled.
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>>79675036
I only socialize irl.
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>>79675057
You are on /g/ faggot. Nobody believes you.
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>>79675036
nothing on it interests me
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>>79675097
This.
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>>79675097
>>79675224
Where are you faggots gonna talk when 4chan gets taken down?
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>>79675036
>fed-iverse
>logo is literally a pentagram
I'll pass
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>>79675265
I suspect 4chan doesn't fulfill a need for me right now and is only a habit. When 4chan gets shutdown I wont talk anywhere.
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>>79675036
I don't have friends or hobbies.
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>>79675044
> No Fumor
kek that's wrong
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>>79675416
it would be a sad day indeed but if the chan is gone than I won't either.
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>>79675097
>>79675224
>>79675422
imagine being this much of a faggot that a network with more advanced tech topics "doesn't interest you". also you can just make friends there. also lain@lain.com raped me
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>>79675320
although based, its a community driven social network and its open source. just sayin', don't have to join.
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What is it?
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>>79676019
it's the new parler.
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>>79675803
>implying I want friends
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Gargron ate my ass and then stopped answering my DMs
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>>79676025
I don't really know what Parler was. How do I know this won't get taken down? What's the advantage over just using 4chan?
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normies need influences to see software as socially acceptable to use
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I have no reason to.

>>79675057
This.
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my reason is that social media is a cancer.
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suggest one app for it other than Tusky?
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>>79675036
I dont like non-anonymous social networks
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>>79675036
trannies
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I'm literally on fedi just to follow lain and some pleroma admins.
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>>79675036
only crazy people use it
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people who can't host their own shit tend to be incredibly boring
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>>79675036
Started using it this week through dick Masterson's instance. I wonder his hard it would be for governments to crack down on it if they REALLY wanted to
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>>79676025
Wrong

>>79676166
It works by having a bunch of servers that can all interact with each other. You can even run your own, so you can't get banned
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>>79678604
Host your instance in China or some other country that doesn't care about people's feelings.
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>>79675265
Probably one on of these webring chans. Or some of these niche ones like lain or wizard or something.
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>>79675265
lainchan
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Federation is a complete dead end and intrinsically retarded.
What you really want is true decentralization.

You want Zeronet.
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>>79675036
>fediverse
>fed
yeah.. no
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>>79675036
Trannies
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>>79675036
i just discovered it yesterday
i made a thread about it (with mastodon pic)

i honestly seem to be perfect user for such obscure autism network but i cant make myself actually to create account
cant find a reason to use it
i feel i will get overwhelmed with all the posts and users and instances

also i dont have money to buy hosting for my instance
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>>79675036
Use what?
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>>79679966
Pleroma can run on rpi, dont you have one lying around?
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>>79680047
nope
and even if i did whats the use in this case
why cant i use my pc
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>>79678696
>can't get banned
Not exactly true, you can be "banned"... but only by some instance's admin which would vanish you only from his and his users' sight. There's no central authority so other instance admins decide whom to ban (if at all) on their own.
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>>79675036
Seething trannies.
They almost grew a new dick out of their asses when gab moved to mastodon.
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>>79680113
lol and what if you created account on that instance
they can delete your account because it is stored on THEIR instance

this whole shit is decentralized in a way "we dont use one instance like facebook or twitter we use many facebooks and twitters who are interconnected"
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>>79680084
Because you'd want to have the instance running and processing data live.
>>79680133
Free speech oriented shitposters and ironic lolicon weebs were there before the trannies. Those pockets still remain even if most of their instances migrated from GNU Social to Pleroma by now.
>>79680146
Self-host, pleroma runs well on a RPi. That's the final solution, be your own master.
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>>79680171
>Self-host
thats like actually not buyng some shared hosting but instead doing it from home
isnt that complicated shit that i even have to contact my ISP ?
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>>79675036
I don't use social media. I would use it if I did, however.
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>>79675036
open source social media is still social media
instant gratification and overstimulation are still encouraged
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>>79675265
i'm not
i come here when i'm bored or if i need an answer to an incredibly niche question, i don't actually care about the site
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>>79676019
fediverse is a colloquial term for ActivityPub, which is an open standard for social media software to interconnect.
Practically, it means a network of arbitrary websites running different frontends (examples include mastadon, pleroma, friendica, gab, and pixelfed) can collect data from each other and present it correctly to all of their users, even if the users have only visited a single website in the fediverse.
Or another explanation: you can host your own social media website and it will interact with other users on their own websites
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Someone explain how the fuck mastodon works
It clearly says I can follow people on ANY Mastodon server, and yet I made a mstdn.social account and I can only log into mstdn.social, no other server will let me log into it without a new account specific to that server
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>>79675320
But why a 64 Chevelle? Weren't they considered too small/european back then?
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>>79678952
zeronet is a fed honeypot by design, as it allows websites to serve you arbitrary information, causes you to serve that information to other users whole, and does not encrypt any of it.
any website that took the fancy could host CP in the background of its homepage and you'd end up distributing that.
The better solution is Freenet, which is encrypted, serves only chunks of files rather than whole files, and does not rely on "has this user visited the site" to host chunks. This gives the entire system a level of plausible deniability, as you cannot know what you are serving and neither can anybody else.
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>>79680411
You can still follow people on other servers
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>>79677681
What's wrong with Tusky?
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>>79677681
https://alternativeto.net/software/fediverse/
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>>79680457
No I can't
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>>79680411
It's like an email, you have your email address on one provider and thats where you log in but still you are able to communicate with ppl what have their email addresses elsewhere
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>>79680532
are you looking up a server that the kikes at mastadon blocked from their instance for not kowtowing to globalist alphabet-people cancel culture?
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>>79680502
They put a hardcoded block on logging into Gab once they switched to mastodon.
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>>79680239
Unless you're self-hosting an instance that has thousands of members, your bandwidth requirements aren't going to hit "contact my ISP" levels.
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>>79680561
I don't know. It's baraag.net, I'm trying to follow some porn artists
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>>79675036
The name and logo are enough for me to avoid it like the plague
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>>79680611
See this
>>79680561


Just create your acc on some pleroma instance like i dunno neckbeard or spc etc., those guys are pretty chill
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>>79680450
If you use Zeronet with Tor not one packet will leak to the clearnet and all your concerns are moot.
Besides, all federated systems are 100% clearnet at this point. Instances have to rely on moderation in order to avoid things like CP which is completely retarded.
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>>79675036
It seems to me that federation of instances only serve to enable the receiving of upcummies by the users.
If instances were anonymous boards without signup, there would be literally no reason for two boards to communicate with each other.
Sure, you might want to bundle threads from different boards but you just need some kind of aggregator for that.
I'm quite happy without discord faggotry in my life tbqhf.
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>>79680611
>>79680647
>>79680532
>>79680411

Quick history, might get some details wrong: Mastodon creator was all about freedom of speech, was happy about nicely developing adoption rates, noticed it came from some alt-righters, grudgingly implemented a way to block other servers and their users and subsequently started blocking lots of stuff that's not exactly "clean" content (alt-right, porn, what have you).

Solution: create your account on a server that's chill and doesn't block other servers, either a really small "alternative" one, often privately hosted and with dubious uptime, or one of the big ones that are also chill for their own reasons. I mainly use it to follow loli artists (just follow their links from pixiv), and therefore created my account on pawoo.net, a Japanese server that doesn't get its panties in a bunch about a few fucking pixels on a screen.

Note that Mastodon (and most Fediverse apps for that matter) are still slow and buggy and shit, some things won't work and I advise to do all account maintenance/follows through your browser on PC, not an app (I use Tusky on Android). Otherwise it is an ok experience, and hey at least it's more permissive than Twitter!
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I use it every day its gud
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>>79680450
How is I2p
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>>79680239
Nah just open a port and you're good to go. Most ISPs let you open port 80
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>>79680581
what would be the minimum internet speed required to smoothly self host this , or anything for that matter
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>>79679966
Fosstodon.org is cool if you can control your autism
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>>79681075
I2p is essentially Tor without exit nodes. Everything you can do with I2p can be done with Tor onion services.
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Any of you know any cool matrix servers?
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Where can I blog on fediverse?
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>>79680146
You can migrate your account and take all your data to your new instance
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>>79675036
I do use it. Doesn't mean you have to.
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>>79681084
Looking at virtualhost speeds, any middling urban connection speed should work, 50mbps+ upload
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>>79675052
Parler twitter gab refugees won't like it, there are anarchists and trannies in the anime free speech zone.
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>>79681435
rightflakes defederated for just this reason
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>>79681280
>50mbps
is that whats normal these days lol?
i have 5 Mbit lmao
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>>79680146
You can self host or you can pick instances that are ok with your shitposts. You can keep your data exported.

>>79675803
>lain@lain.com raped me
You paid attention to sjw's bots. He gets jealous.
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>>79681265
how can you migrate it if you dont know if they are going to ban you or even shut down their instance
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>>79675036
Social media was a mistake.
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>>79681472
Yea, and in record time too in the case of the "muh free speech" gablins. Good riddance. I hope the effect persists.
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>>79680932
Mastodon came late into fediverse's history, used existing pockets of users to bootstrap and promote itself as an SJW twitter "without Nazis".

Mastodon devs deliberately kept misleading narrative up that the project is "a social network" and "the fediverse" while keeping shut about stuff that they built upon and in parallel blocking and spreading malicious rumours about remaining GNU Social servers.

Riding on the wave of popularity gained from SJW and tranny crowds, mastadon devs started introducing changes to some of the ambiguously described in ostatus specs elements and then refused to cooperate with what little remained of GNU Social devs. This introduced massive interop issues, broken threads, DDOS waves and some database corruption. Then it was sufficiently big to just dump it for ActivityPub. Pleroma was designed as a clean room implementation of AP too but it still maintained ostatus endpoints until recently (lain dumping it actually caused at least some butthurt and autistic sperging from the old crowd who were also early Pleroma adopters - even before it had a working backend and existed only as a shell client for GNU Social)
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>>79675036
I don't care about any of these gay new age platforms that have been popping up since the tantrums of facebook and twitter. I don't care for ANY social media. Except for 4chan, of course
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>>79681591
It was mostly FSE's bunch of jilted gabfugees and the fediverse clown posting traps and mocking them for being a bunch of fun hating old men. I remember it, it was very funny. It's debatable whether they saw it because Gab idiots fucked up federation almost immediately and it was only capable of spewing trash onto federated timelines, with Gab users not seeing anything from the outside.
>>79681648
Nice tripcode, namefag.
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>>79681555
Some mistakes turn out ok.

>>79681628
Mastodon is the first thing that had users. Gnu social had almost no one. It may have been later but the fediverse wouldn't even have users without it. And the chinese cartoon lovers especially (moon rune demonologists) had about equal user bases to the lgbt crowd for a long while.
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>>79681499
I feel your pain ruralbro
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>>79677681
andstatus
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>>79681695
>I remember it, it was very funny.
Me too. Posting cute girl to remember and commemorate the occasion.

I think Zenmichi (?) "Gablin Slayer" SJW and others -IIRC even Lain- did (fag)god's work back then, winning against the Gablin invasion.

>It's debatable whether they saw it because Gab idiots fucked up federation almost immediately
They still had time to ban many of the free speech instances first, some around day one. So yes, the admins reacted.

Ironically they and the gablins were spending the same week / month whining about how the Mastodon side of things had banned them.

You don't happen to have a record, do you?
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>>79681849
Just use bloat in a browser: https://git.freesoftwareextremist.com/bloat/about/
>>79681910
It's a shame zemichi left. I remember seeing screencaps but only have these two propaganda macros saved.
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>>79681941
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>>79681729
that's more like in a capital in the middle of europe though. down speed is ok, 100mbit and up, but upload for some reason is laughably slow (10mbit max) if you're not paying out your ass for a corporate account. fuck UPC/Magenta.
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>>79681941
> I remember seeing screencaps but only have these two propaganda macros saved.
Damn. Was he on smuglo.li back when?
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>>79682066
Yeah, he didn't rejoin anywhere else after smug died.
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>>79682123
Thanks for the images. I wish I had time to archive things back when. Maybe the past instance owner can still be found somewhere?

> he didn't rejoin anywhere else after smug died
Unfortunate, but I'm guessing he will be back.
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>>79682123
>>79681628
>>79681910

wtf, what even is any of this? what internet drama did I miss? am only vaguely aware some free speech vs. alt-right thing going on in regards to fediverse/mastodon comparable to 8ch back then. but what's with the traps everybody? was happily in my japan porn bubble here, but am thankful for any very high-level summary or intro link.
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>>79677681
Husky :^)
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>>79677850
Pretty much yeah
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>>79682551
>wtf, what even is any of this?
It relates to the time when Gab joined the fediverse. They adopted a mastodon instance and went in touting "free speech!" "federation!" horray and so on.

But imagine what would happen if you connected a retarded echo chamber (far less accustomed to criticism then than /pol/ or even reddit) to all boards here. People shitposted back and did a great job at it. Lots of other opinions and lots of traps and lolis too.

Gab couldn't take it and defederated most of the free speech / anime instances.

Apart from that, the more LGBTQ instances banned Gab themselves and vice versa. Gab/its users then whined about it for weeks or months.

It was amusing. Unfortunately one of the main instances (smuglo.li) where a central figure "zemichi" of this was is offline now so I can't immediately post more stuff.
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>>79682551
The Gabbening:
>Gab decides to switch software, chooses Mastodon partially to troll the trannies entrenched in that ecosystem
>Mastadon trannies are seething and panicking, put hardcoded blocks against logging in to Gab into their mobile clients, add Gab to their blocklists and later pressure F-Droid into delisting Gab's own fork of their app
>previous refugees from Gab who mostly settled around FSE instance are still mad at Torba and are throwing insults
>other Pleromafags are either mildly concerned about a wave of clueless boomers transforming the place (like Mastodon did) or prepared to sow chaos and shitpost for laughs
>the more tech oriented side of Pleroma is taking bets on how much Gab will fuck up
>Gab joins the fediverse, it's a broken mess
>Gab dev and some confused Gab users get flooded with either insults, anime pictures (it was after Torba's anti-anime episode, I think) or smug, extremely obnoxious clown posts with Astolfo pictures attached to them
>dev meltdowns in very amusing ways
>Gab breaks federation and effectively blocks anything outside
>Mastodon trannies are still seething about it to this day
The scale of the trap posting wasn't really all that huge but it was very entertaining to watch as it was happening.

Stuff about Mastodon effectively coming in with good PR and replacing the existing network with its own filth is another matter entirely. It's probably important to note that the original fediverse was mostly tech/FOSSfags, some MLP horsefuckers and mostly harmless anarchocommies - the landscape changed when gamergate happened and mass bannings on Twitter started happening. Difference is that the new free speech crowd formed its own pocket and everyone coexisted mostly in peace.
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The BASEDlist has not been posted yet?
fediblock.org/blocklist/
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>>79675036

The ideal solution to social media is to return to people having their own unique and interesting personal websites and "following" each other via RSS. Any other features offered by social media websites are bloat which could be done better by other individual programs, like having a seperate IM program instead of Facebook messenger, and doing long-term/formal messages via email.

I like Peertube though and would use it if I made videos, as although you could host your videos directly on your blog too, it would be impractical both in speeds and costs, but hosting on a Peertube instance instead reduces that with peer-to-peer technology.
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Luke Smith shilling Fedi now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOiCACmjKBM
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>>79683165
You could use something like twtxt - a tab-separated text file put and updated somewhere where first field is a date and the second one is a message. Following someone means just adding the URL of the feed to a list for fetching, the rest is just a parser and UI for prettyprinting a timeline.
https://github.com/buckket/twtxt

There's an extension that encapsulates this in a PGP clearsign too.
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don't know what it is, don't care what it is
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>>79675036
Can somebody point me to a /tech/ focused instance? I don't want to scroll through endless tranime posts.
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>>79684199
mastodon.technology
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>>79683165
Activitypub is like a less silly more realtime rss. A futher development of atom-> ostatus.

There is not much point to using rss for any such thing now. It was useful when it was close to the website html, just stripped.
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>>79675036
It gets boring once you realize Twitter is only fun for trolling. Also the creator of Mastodon is a faggot
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>fediverse
>fed
nice try, FBI
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What's the best instance for non tranny loliposting, outside of pawoo?
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Isn't Mastodon for lefties and Anarchists/Communist people?
The project leaders are, so I don't know why right-wingers would go there.
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>>79681515
If your concerns are genuine and not a troll just host your own server. I'm confident my server will not shut down because its very well funded by the community, and because I don't say anything that will get me banned.
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Why are all Peertube instances trash? And no, I'm not fucking privileged enough to own my own fucking server and run my own instance because that requires dealing with credit cards/banks to pay for which are for drones with no freedom and are constantly being monitored and given a "credit score" to judge your fucking life with.
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>>79675044
Gab is technically fediverse.
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>>79683208
Not even shilling good instances..
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>>79686455
So tell us some good ones?
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>>79675036
I tried using it once, but a very weird person got federated into my instance.
Basically this person was an absolute CCP (Chinese Communist Party) shill. I'm not talking about a Chinese account made to lie about the status of life in China, but rather an American person who was touting every day about how the CCP was so incredibly great and how they were saving up to escape America and move into Mainland China to live under the government CCP. In that moment I realized I was in the wrong instance and deleted my account. A few days later I realized I didn't really want to have any sort of social media.
I have nothing against Fediverse, I think it's great technology. I simply do not want to be close in any way shape or form to people like that.
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>>79684843
Go to a Pleroma instance and look for the "Known Network" timeline. That will be a stream of everything that instance can see. You will figure it out from there.

>>79684976
There seems to be a natural split. Mastodon for the left and trannies, Pleroma for the right and funposting instances. You can find exceptions to this but that seems to be how it is settling out. Doesn't really matter much because they can still federate with each other.

>>79684199
mastodon.sdf.org
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>>79686782
Are you that glowpilled to be offended by that?
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>>79681265
man, what a piece of shit
thank god his is federated and trannies cant silence dt
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>>79681435
>anime free speech zone
>anarchists and trannies
Every. Single. TIme.
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>>79681265
>https://mastodon.technology/about/more
lulz scroll down to his block lists. This guy must spend all day building it.
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Mastodon arose from the idealistic open-source software movement, designed to let anybody run their own social media site. But it was never intended to support something like Gab. While Gab has no official political affiliation, it's known as a haven for far-right or explicitly fascist users too extreme for bigger networks. Its hands-off moderation approach is antithetical to many supporters of Mastodon, whose creator has officially stated he's "completely opposed to Gab’s project and philosophy."
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>>79687107
>free speech extremists
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>>79687234
Gab seems to have broken most of the Mastodon community. Before they where all about freedom. After Gab picked it up they frantically hard coded blocks in to all their apps and obsess about blocking users and sites from their instances now. I am convinced if they could go back in time they wouldn't have licensed their software under GPL specifically because of Gab. Now they are obsessed with control.

Why the fuck would any normal person join an instance if it had this on the front page?
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>>79687284
>free speech extremists
Looks legit to me

fediblock.org/blocklist/
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>>79687338
This is again just a bunch of instances. If someone insists that accepting confederate flags or a stupid CoC is a requirement for the group, many will go along.
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>>79684214

What's "silly" about RSS? It allows you to have a wide variety of different websites in your feed, and has extra functionality like being able to organise and tag feed sources, being able to easily download and export to different programs (e.g you use it to act like a YouTube subscription feed and have it open the items in mpv, without the need to visit the website).

Activitypub on the otherhand restricts you to just other fediverse websites and you cant script and extend it like RSS. Also you need an account to use activitypub whilst RSS doesn't need one.
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>>79687338
>mastodon.technology does not federate with overtly fascist instances
sure, whatever
>Additionally we will refuse to federate with instances that themselves choose to federate with fascist instances
Now that's just retarded, especially considering federation with every other instance is the default state. Might as well use a whitelist of your safe space instances instead of a blacklist at that point.
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>>79687234
>Its hands-off moderation approach is antithetical to many supporters of Mastodon
In reality: >>79682864 >>79682904 and so on.

That said yes, you can moderate in a more hands-off way.
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>>79687234
>builds tool to enable freedom of communication
>upset when used for communication
baka
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>>79675265
>He thinks I come here to talk
Lmao. I'm here to mindlessly shitpost when I'm bored, if it no longer exists then I'd find something else to do, like reading or some shit.
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>>79675036
Nothing personal kid
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>>79680864
>If you use Zeronet with Tor
then you must take it on faith that the tor network, which was built from the ground up for and until relatively recent exclusively run by the US DOD, presumably hand in hand with US intelligence agencies
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>interested in pleroma
>main developer is a ironically gay german with baby hands who pretends to be a japanese girl
nah
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>>79686455
>Not even shilling good instances
he's telling people to host their own server, the best instance is your own
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>>79686334
find a host that accepts crypto
find a spare laptop and port forward if you have a static address
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>>79687392
You're afraid
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How would someone go about hosting a website in the fediverse? Honestly, just some wordpress shit to post fashy stuff and maybe link a podcast.
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>>79688091
If they made that, then couldn't nazis or whomever they don't like, still use it?
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>>79688528
>hosting a website in the fediverse
you're not thinking correctly
each activitypub-based project is something that a website can host, typically as a subdomain
wordpress can act as the primary domain, but you have to run a server with a subdomain as the public connection point if you're going to use the main domain for something else
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>>79675803
>also lain@lain.com raped me
I bet you liked it though :^)
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>Look for a cool community
>Everything is either tranny central or a pol fiesta
Just want some place to hang with chill people that don't care about politics at all.
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>>79688576
Maybe I should get more educated on it.
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>>79688599
pick a server/client you like and it'll probably have a pretty decent install guide
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>>79688595
I have the same mindset. I wouldn't mind having my white nationalist centric site and then one where politics are mostly shunned. It is grating to do that shit constantly.
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>>79688608
Could you recommend some or one?
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>>79688621
they're all basicaly clones of existing social media websites. what's your poison?
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>>79688646
Just some blogging shit, I guess. Saw some others shilling i2p, but haven't looked in to that much.
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>>79688683
medium-like: plume
microblog: pleroma
facebook: friendica
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>>79688693
Plume seems right. I saw that earlier and it *seemed* to be what I was looking for, but didn't know if there were better alternatives.
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>>79687392
>homomisic
...what?
I swear they’re just making up words at this point
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>>79688721
I've never heard that in my life as well.
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>>79688693
Not the dude you were talking to but both plume and friendica look pretty good.
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>>79675097
>>79675224
Be the change you want to see in the world. #WhiteSamsonOption
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>>79682904
Kek amazing summary

Thanks anon
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>>79688721
it's a less retarded version of "homophobic" that acknowleges that fear is a different emotion than disgust or hatred.
but it's still defective in that it fails to differntiate homosexuality from other homos, like homogeneiety.
so all told I would still consider the neologism a failure.
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>>79681435
>anarchists
BASED
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>>79680864
Wrong.
Any page can ping the clearnet even with Tor enabled by simply requesting a picture.
Zeronet is a real clusterfuck
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>check pleroma's servers
>sort by most users / posts
>https://shitposter.club
I guess I'll give it a try then
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>>79688205
you do realize you don't have to follow me
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>>79691399
How's your skirt, lain? Feeling comfy?
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>>79690258
Every federated site, tor service or i2p site can link to the clear net. That is a retarded non-argument.
The point is that if you use zeronet over tor you won't upload to the clearnet.
Also, the only thing that is a clusterfuck at this point is the constant shilling against decentralized solutions in this thread.
Zeronet is a great censorship resistant decentralized solution that works *today*.
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>>79690557
why are you choosing the one with the most users? It'll hurt more when SPC gets shut down for hate speech.
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>>79691969
It's fine, moonman is happy about getting new friends.
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>>79691969
>>79692152
desu, big part of the fediverse is dogshit, like every social media. From what I see shitposter.club do have some nice shit from time to time.
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Are there any of these fediverse places where everybody is anon?
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>>79692400
see:
>>79680897
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>>79681435
Okay, you've sold me
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>>79675265
I would be posting on kohlchan exclusively
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>>79680146
>they can delete your account because it is stored on THEIR instance
then just don't pick the wrong admin
What's the difference between getting banned from a pleroma instance and getting banned from twitter? I won't spoonfeed you, think about it yourself.
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>>79675036
idk, what's yours, Luke?
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>>79678604
Dick, nice, is he still covering for pedophiles?
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>>79683154
>freespeech, nazism, fascism, antisemitism
One of these things is not like the other!
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>>79689144
it's funny how people who would be offended at calling gays homos use it themselves when "defending" them
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>>79692400
It's actually doable with Pleroma's MRF system. Shitposter.club has a prototype, limited system where a message from you is modified by the server automatically as one coming from @bonzibuddy if you type bonzibuddy in the subject field. It would be trivial to write a rule making every post of every user come from a single anon account.
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lmao nigger



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