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Previous thread >>79626364
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that stupid shoulder camera zeos uses gives me nausea
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>power outage for a second, bad weather
>always think "Shit. Did it affect my headphone's sound quality?"
What do I need to protect my amps and headphones from outages? I can't imagine the $20 surge protectors everyone has really do anything, do they?
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You can divide headphone listers into two categories, boardly speaking.
1. Those who highly value audio quality
2. Those who don't value audio quality that much
The first group will quickly move into mid-fi and eventually find their way into hi-fi and one day into an endgame system once they can afford it. The second will just float around lo-fi and sometimes the entry level of mid-fi. And to remind everyone:
Lo-fi .. < $150
Mid-fi .. $300-$700
Hi-fi .. > $800
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>>79671563
What a useless post
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>>79671517
Laziest shit ever but it does feel more personal
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>>79671563
You can divide headphone listers into two categories, boardly speaking.
1. Those who highly value audio quality
2. Those who don't value audio quality that much
The first group will quickly move into transparent DAC amps and reach an endgame system once they can afford the $200 it costs. The second will just float around in audiophool tweaks and retardation like $5000 amps that perform worse than $100 devices. And to remind everyone:
$200 is all you need to achieve transparent source gear. Less even. Always look at measurements before purchasing. That "upgrade" will likely be a downgrade.
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>>79671604
Is it useless or did you just not enjoy learning you listen to lo-fi?
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>>79671668
$200 using the latest electronics will be low-distortion and quiet but very flat, lifeless, horrible dynamics and generally a bottom-tier experience.
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>>79671689
>very flat, lifeless, horrible dynamics and generally a bottom-tier experience.
stop listening to shit music then
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How much resolution am I missing by not using the SDR mod with my HD800? Does the 6khz peak really obscure the resolving ability of the driver?
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>>79671804
you can just EQ it down if it bothers you
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>>79671702
I know you must be listening to an Atom or some other toy you were marketed with $100nlo-fi headphones. So you probably listen to the worst electronica and metal rock imaginable. When you go up the ladder of high end audio your tastes change to reflect the greater enjoyment better system bring.
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>>79671809
The HD800 has something fucky going on with its earcup reflections/acoustics that make EQing a bandaid solution, or am I totally wrong?

For some reason I'm not detecting this so called obnoxious treble across varied genres with very few electronic recordings as an exception. But I'm guessing that's because I don't have a "real" amp - a USB 2.0 interface, the Motu M2. Or maybe my ears are messed up. I notice that the sound signature of my 800 changes a lot, with seemingly no changes in the source.
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>>79671885
i'm actually listening to a kgsshv carbon with sr009s, seethe harder
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I've been looking to get a dac/amp to use with dt770 250 ohm and similar rated headphones, I'm looking for suggestions and also opinions on the ifi zen dac amp & dac
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>>79671990
smsl sAp II
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>>79671924
Nothing in its CSD indicates the 6K resonance is anything out of the ordinary. It can be fixed with EQ. If you look at the CSD for M1060 - that's something that can't be fixed with EQ.
>For some reason I'm not detecting this so called obnoxious treble across varied genres with very few electronic recordings as an exception.
You may not be treble sensitive.
>I notice that the sound signature of my 800 changes a lot, with seemingly no changes in the source.
They have very large cups, and the headphone's sound is dependent on position. Put it on differently and you'll get slightly different sound.
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>>79671454
Has anyone done the SHP9500 cup mod?
I'm printing my own, but in the meanwhile, how do they change the sound?
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>>79672013
its a bit of a cheap one and the only websites i can see it on will take a while to ship, any alternatives? my budget is $200
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Resident non-audiophile electrical engineer here guys.
For a good sound, you don't need Burson or Sparkos opamps, because they're worse than $3 opamps.
About linear power supplies, they're the devil. Huge, hot, heavy, induce mains hum in the sound and are generally shittier compared to a good 500kHz or 1MHz switching power supply. Just don't use a phone charger for supplying and amplifier.
As for using your PC for music, don't go full retard and use a linear power supply with it, or other strange ideas. The switching frequency of the PC components will fuck with your sound either way. But don't worry. The solution is as simple as using a $5 TOSLINK cable feeding a DAC, or using a DAC with isolated USB. And if you use a moderately well engineered product, it will be isolated.
Also, the Yggdrassil is shit beaten by their own Schiit Modius for a fraction of the price. CD transports may be the pinnacle of autism, by the way.
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>>79672256
hello, based department?
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So what's a good alternative to the Topping L30 with them exploding all over the place?
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>>79671885
You sound like that resident audiophile retard, even worse, since you judge other people's listening habits.
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>>79671804
>Does the 6khz peak really obscure the resolving ability of the driver?
On the contrary. I think it was an intentional design decision by Sennheiser's engineers since it accentuates their soundstage.

>>79671924
>The HD800 has something fucky going on with its earcup reflections/acoustics that make EQing a bandaid solution, or am I totally wrong?

The HD800 respond very well to EQ, but you need more power for it to work correctly.
Get a proper amp for them, look for oratory1990 EQ profiles on reddit and then apply them via your preferred EQ app. I used equalizerAPO+peace GUI on windows.

t. HD800 + ifi micro BL owner. I don't think I'll ever upgrade this setup after i discovered EQ. I got a tube amp for the memes, but i rarely use it.
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>>79672473
jds labs atom amp if they still make em
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>buy dt990 and k5 pro
>highs aren't as bad as people say until I listen to rock/metal/anything with a god damn guitar
how do I EQ this shit to work with my ears?
I genuinely can't be bothered to buy a different pair of headphones right now
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>>79673133
Foam or paper towel inserts might be the best option.
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FYI after six months of owning the ifi zen and fiio k5 pro dacs, I've settled on the ifi and sidelined the k5.

The k5 is fine, has more power than the zen, and better connectivity, but the (firmware updated) zen is just that bit more enjoyable as a daily driver (4+ hours a day).
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>>79671604
>>79671668
>>79671702
>>79671931
>>79672256
>>79672364
>>79672642
>I fucking love science
Cope poorniggers
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zmf
abyss
audeze
raal
meze

^ do these produce any good headphones?
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>>79674019
no
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Redpill me on the HD800. I'm thinking of buying a THX 789 for it to maximize the detail retrieval. Pretty much every audio community would call me insane for pairing such a clean sounding SS amp with the 800 but I don't think I'm treble sensitive and I like hearing any and all the details in a recording even if it's recording flaws. Will this "synergy" suit my detail maximizing aims?
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>>79674049
just eq it and enjoy
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i'm addicted to wanting new headphones just to experience novelty despite having reached heaven-fi already help
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>>79674091
it is always good to have backups.
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I got those sony meme wireless headphones but I literally can't use them wirelessly anymore since for some reason the audio quality is just horrible with crackle and shit

I bet it's some stupid piece of shit neighbour with some chinese bluetooth speaker jamming signals I literally can't even listen 1 feet from my bluetooth recieve it's horrible and defeats the purpose of the headhpones
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any good mods to make meze99 sound good? replacing earpads maybe?
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>>79674112
yeah i have that problem too around the evening. definitely the neighbors
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wirelesstoddlers BTFO
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>>79671689
Don't forget it will also occasionally use fake parts and blow your headphones up!
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>>79674786
>>79671668
>>79671563
the fuck is your issue you brainless phantom chaser?
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>>79674458
how old you're again? still posting this lowtier bitch character? sashit is for noobs and newfags btw
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>>79671454
My headphones broke and I need more durable ones.
>Budget
80-180$
>Location
Freedom
>Source
Laptop
>Type of headphone
Around ear headphones, wired
>Open or closed
Closed with little leakage. Don't want anyone to hear "Oniichan DAME mada shougakusei nanoni ninshin shichauuuu"
>Comfort level
Normal comfort
>Sound signature
Neutral/monitor/studio/flat response curve. No boosted bass.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD201, HD201+tape, ducktape with parts of HD201, ATH-M40x
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>>79674786
That opamp we used is a legit OPA1611! We swear we didn't scrub the lettering, it was just the way the batch came in!
NOOOO, don't look at the caps, they're true Japanese (tm) Nichinkon caps! What do you mean nichicon doesn't
have the caps we used in their catalog? They were special order made of course!
And the pot? We're checking them one by one, we swear!
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>>79674827
I don't understand nigglish so I'm not sure what's this supposed to mean, but I can still tell you would fit better on >>>/v/.
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>>79674939
ok noob, keep posting sashit!
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Staxbros... How do I fix this? I don't want to spend 200€ for a new headband.
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>>79674851
K371 are the shit lately
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>>79675027
What is this "sashit", is it related to headphones?
Also, what does "noob" mean in this context? I thought it's a term used to describe kids with low kd ratio in cod and other things like that.
I'm interested in nigger culture, so I would highly appreciate some serious answers.
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any cheap chink headphones under 50 dollars that use velour instead of the shitty PU leather that flakes after a while?
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>>79675127
Everything meant as directory. getting the meaning by yourself will raise your knowledge of this world, but it seems you can't even understand basic concepts of codes.
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>>79672256
>And if you use a moderately well engineered product, it will be isolated.
Speaking of Schiit, they are known for being dogshit engineers, don't ever give them your money
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>>79674112
>>79674160
Build a BT jammer to get back at them, wait until they stop trying to use their garbage, problem solved

~or~

buy wired headphones like a normal adult
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Is it dangerous to remove the cable from the hd800s? I heard it can break. Im trying to hook it up to my phone so i can listen to it while laying down on my bed.
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>>79675317
My negro, have you considered switching from wireless beats to a nice pair of stax? It might help you overcome your "in da hood" complex and maybe your sentences will start making sense.
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How does ZMF get away with the price-point? The sound is maybe worth 700-800, but Auteurs for example cost $1700. Surely the craftman wood and metal isn't worth $1000?
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>>79674019
The lCD2f is good with EQ. The Auteurs while good are grossly overpriced.
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>>79676011
man those headphones are beautiful looking. how does the Verite sound? worth it for its price point?
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>>79675771
Being afraid to unplug a cable because the port might be poorly built is a bit too much, especially on supposedly top tier headphones.
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>>79676054
>how does the Verite sound? worth it for its price point?

Sounds good, but again, way overpriced.
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>>79671523
Simple. Buy a reliable UPS.
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>>79674815
Imagine being a braindead ASR shill.

https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/psa-topping-l30-damaging-headphones/20109

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/sequential-damage.19003/

https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/topping-l30-xploding-and-taking-headphones-out.10422/
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>>79675067
So when people warned us that Lambdas have piss poor build quality, they were not actually meme-ing.
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>>79676306
Yeah the build quality is crap for the L300 at least. It just snapped when I tried to put it on my head.
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>>79676529
FAAAAAAATTY
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Does anyone else have issue with really heavy headphones? Even ones using suspension straps. It would seem to me anything over 450+ grams starts to hurt my neck after 20-30 minutes.
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>>79673133
Some people say the DT 990 peaky treble issue is solved with break-in. Please let us know if that works for you.
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>>79676669
yeah i do

it why i chose hd800s over focal clears. the weight! i wonder if focal clears sound better though with and without eq.
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Looking for an upgrade. Gonna try to listen to all the shortlist candidates, but I could use some recommendations to narrow it down.

>Budget
Around 4k for headphones + DAC + amp
>Location
EU
>Source
Currently: Asus Essence STX II
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
w/e
>Comfort level
Should be close to K712-levels
>Sound signature
Something laid-back, not too bright. Huge soundstage as long as it is not as exhausting as the HD800
>Past headphones
LCD-2, K712
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god damnit. I got 6xx, enjoy them, then notice afterward that a lot of people are praising the 560s, possibly even more.

Which like, I know that it really doesn't make that much of a difference, if really any. Price wise or performance wise. My brain just decides to worry about it anyhow like the bitch it is.
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>>79677289
WELCOME TO THE AUDIOPHOOL ZONE.
IT ONLY GETS WORSE.
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Should I buy the m50x bluetooth or wait? or something else?
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>>79677276
sr-007a + srm-727a or srm-007ta + i don't know what dac
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>>79676529
you need some sturdy headphones
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>>79677826
Seriously. It may be better, but it's not THAT much better. noted by a bunch of people still have opinions that 6xx is better or whatever.

I blind bought the 6xx, but i really ought not blind buy anything again, lest i truly become an audiophool.
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>>79675908
ok nigger. get off the internet, im hacking it
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>>79675908
stax is shit and not popular
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>Cope poorniggers
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>>79678109
Stax is the pinnacle of headphone fidelity, im sorry youre too poor to experience audio paradise.
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>>79678166
stax is overrated shit. get clears. fucking vocel
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>>79678177
>Stax is overrated
>recommends the current overrated memephones
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>>79678177
>fecal
BWAHAHAHAHA, what a fucking looser
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>>79678071
I bought the Anandas on a hunch. The shocker to me is how much they btfo of everything lower tier that I have owned. Including the Senn 599, AD900x, DT 1990 pro, DT 880s, and Sundaras.
People who say there is no difference in hi-fi from mid-fi are full of shit. The detail and clarity is the first thing you notice when moving up.
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>>79678194
Clear is good and aren't overrated shit in /g/. and your stax, if you even own them without the memeposting, literally don't even have ounce of bass. And clear have perfect mids and treble on top of that.
>>79678205
what kind discord shitposting i've stumbled upon?

I guess i fallen into shitposting crew
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>>79678271
The only thing clear about your fecals is that they are clearly memephones. I had them for a while and they just sound like a garbled mess. And no its not my system I've listened to them on various setups. Cope more.

Also, Buy Stax
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>>79678316
>various setups
Satania shitposter has many of meme setups? oh you gonna make me cry. I bet you love placebo effects. planktonfag. also buy clear.

and trash the strash
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>>79675067
>he fell for the stax meme
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>>79678271
>fecal owner trash talking anyone
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For me it's STAX. How about you anon?
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>>79678407
>stax owner trash talking anyone
>rigorously
They are not even garbage mess. I think you should borrow some new ears, grandpa.
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>>79678433
for me it's the seething samefagging nostax incel on suicide watch
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for me it's, staxnigger should take the meds. also he doesn't even owns stax
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>Audeze LCD-4s weigh 735grams

WHO IN THE HELL CAN WEAR THESE?
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>>79678359
The only one crying is you because your fecals are being called out for the memephones they are. And plankton? You must be a schiit user, but it wouldnt surprise me since the Fecals pretty much what would happen if Schiit decided to make headphones. They even match the gear aesthetically.

Brb, going to go take a shit and make more money than you in those 5 minutes compared to what you make in a week.
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>>79678447
nice, I enjoy his sperging too
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>>79678471
Fat burgers
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>>79678471
>not having a 20+ inch diameter neck like a fire hydrant
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>>79678490
You sound so full of yourself. You're a garbage individual you fucking normalfag. Also i literally made 18k a week. you fucking moron. and why are you assuming i have schiit? you're a fucking loser. take this shit and look at it, let it reflect on you.
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discordfellas, no one samefagging here besides strashfaggots
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>You sound so full of yourself. You're a garbage individual you fucking normalfag. Also i literally made 18k a week. you fucking moron. and why are you assuming i have schiit? you're a fucking loser. take this shit and look at it, let it reflect on you.
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>>79674786
One day the measurement spergs are going to realize its not hard to make gear that measures well. Shit if it wasn't you wouldn't see amps so small that measure so good. You can thank Topping for proving that with the shitty parts they use.

Past a certain point, measurements make no audible difference. What does make a difference is the shit is actually stable and the sound isnt as flat as Taylor Swifts ass
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>discordfellas, no one samefagging here besides strashfaggots
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>>79678574
>>79678584
You're still doing those trash memes? how are you even alive? so brain damaged.

staxfags everyone
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>>79678577
>What does make a difference is the shit is actually stable and the sound isnt as flat as Taylor Swifts ass

I dont want my dac or amp (unless it is tubes) coloring sound. That is what the headphones should be doing.
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>You're still doing those trash memes? how are you even alive? so brain damaged.
>staxfags everyone
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crying huh?
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>>79678471
What is the heaviest known headphone in production right now?
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>>79678540
>writes like a retarded 10 year old
>i literally made 18k a week
Like pottery
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>crying huh?
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>>79674939
Telling anyone go to /v/ while you're posting /v/ tier shit? huh so ironic
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>>79678540
Congratulations on shedding 18k tears due to this thread. Also I did look at my shit, it looks just like your Fecals. No wonder it sounds so fucking bad.
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>>79678641
Holy shit, frogposting now? how did you come so far huh? nice lies
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oh boy discord faggies are out to get me.
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Why are all fecal clear owners trannies?
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>>79678658
Stax? more like strash because i trashed like two weeks ago for lacking on bass. no ounce of bass at all.
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>>79671517
>>79671619

Why the fuck you find that fat pedo relevant? He literally listens to anime OST LMAO
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Oh wow, headphones huh
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have you looked at your own reflection?
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>>79678699
I don't
audio is just so ridiculously difficult to gather information on that I'm desperate at this point
desperate enough to listen to him sniffing every few sentences
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>Stax? more like strash because i trashed like two weeks ago for lacking on bass. no ounce of bass at all.
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>>79678695
>lol its strash cuz i put them in the gabage!
>implying you ever had the money to have glorious stax in the first place.
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My fucking sides. Calm down fecalnigger. I don't think I ever saw someone seething like this, not even the original nostaxer incel.
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>>79677826
Long shot, but is anyone able to identify that tape deck? A Teac, maybe?

Also that woman is kinda hot
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>DUDE the bass is so heckin punchy!
>Bro you gotta try these, the macrodynamic slam is incredible!
>After we get some craft beer do you want to come to my place for a listening sesh? I got Focals and red brick walls, it's SOOO comfy!
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>>79675067
that's why I'll never bother with the electrostats currently on the market
I'm glad planars are beginning to sort of catch up at least
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>>79678794
>that woman is kinda hot
le mutt
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>>79673518
cba to do that
>>79676919
quick and dirty EQ fix in foobar kinda solves the problem
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>>79678771
>implying even you
I will keep on enjoying my focal clears while you keep on bitching about buying stax.
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>>79678823
>planars are beginning to sort of catch up at least
They sound worse than both dynamics and estats.
The most well known manufacturers, chinkfiman and poodeze, have abysmal build quality and break all the time.
Good luck finding non-trash playnars.
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>>79678775
>>79678816
Did you just had a seizure there?
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>>79677826
look at these clears
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>>79678865
you don't own clears, you don't own anything kek
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>>79678915
You don't even own stax and it's believable
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Retard here. I'm doing soldering cables and it's going fine, but I wonder about lead toxicity. I wash my hands after, but won't there be miniscule lead residue on the cable connectors and sleeves from my hands after working on them? How do I get it off?
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>>79678945
lol, also guess the headphones in the background ;)
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>>79678997
oohh you were this samefagging gearfag. kill yourself immediately you disabled piece of shit
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>>79679013
you mean floorchad? obviously not, there's furniture in the pic
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>>79678882
>chinkfiman and poodeze, have abysmal build quality and break all the time.

What a load of shit. Planars poop all over dynamics.
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>>79679013
>>79678997
I think the nostax incel is about to commit seppuku
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should i upgrade? i have pic related and im not noticing bad sound quality except for shitty old vidya and that's it.
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>>79679029
Looks like he has the same furniture in his pics. It's the same guy.
>>79679053
What? why should i? you've been placebo'd your entire life.
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>>79678882
I never liked Audeze but the Empyreans sound pretty good (yeah they are disgustingly overpriced). Definitely better than the Utopias to me as well. The Utopias sounded congested to me.
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>>79679068
He has no furniture dude, he had to sell it all to afford cable tweaks.
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>>79679068
gearspammer doesn't even have the same models of headphones and amps.
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>>79679081
kek
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>>79679089
OK i see. Mistook for granted
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Anyone have some great settings for Philips SHP1900 headphones? just installed Equalizer APO with no plugins/custom layouts.
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>>79679058
If youre happy with it dont bother. If you feel like you want to upgrade go to a store where you can listen to a few cans and see if its worth it to you to upgrade.
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>>79679159
thanks anon
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>>79678882
newer planars like the abyss or gl2000 seem to make much better use of the technology
haven't heard either of course, but being overly skeptical gets tiring after a while
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>>79679379
>gl2000
The double magnets version is supposedly amazing.

Wish it didn't weigh 530g though
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>>79678228
That's fair, but i also have fairly shit hearing. I went from sennheiser game one to 6xx. the difference is significant, but I hesitate to think how much of a difference going from that to something even MORE expensive would make. When songs are well mixed, I think the 6xx's are pretty darn clear and detailed.

Except i might want to get headphones that have a wide sound stage, i think that would be a good compliment to 6xx.

that and 6xx and a dac/amp is mid-fi right? That cost me like, $400, with the steal of a deal that is the 6xx, and a sound blasterx g6 (gamer trash i know, but from what i can tell more than sufficient, and decent parts on the inside so long as you ignore the gamer trash ). hi-fi would be like, at least $1000. I'd want to test before i even think about shelling THAT kind of money.
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just broked my m40x
kill me
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>>79679498
if you have some spare money, you could use that as an opportunity to move to mid-fi headphones and regret nothing
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>>79679544
what the hell is even that
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>>79678228
Wait until you try the higher end HFM, friend. Arya and Ananda are probably around the same tier give or take but the jump to the HE1k or Susvara is another big leap.
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>>79679544
i just want to literally hear nothing of my surroundings when im working
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>>79679625
>Susvara
>$6k

No thanks
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>>79679653
They cost so much cheaper in Asia. One of the rare instances where we have better pricing than US and Europe.
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Hey faggots come up with a good frequency response for this 6-song soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbuqesqbiSc&list=PLAKyR5M9nIGf_pmT9ndpCkNKomCILE654
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What's up with this weird Focal vs STAX shitposting?
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>>79679745
it's been going on for years
the hd600 and harman target circlejerking days were much better, cute even compared to this
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>>79679784
It's weird because both are highly competent manufacturers. It's Sennheiser who should be worried because their HD800 are horribly outclassed by the French and Japanese.
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>>79679745
It is a who's who in the world of overpriced and overhyped headphones meme off.
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>>79679809
Sennheiser isn't going to do shit because despite drastically falling behind other companies, theyre still pushed at top tier in most stores. You don't find out about other brands unless you go forum diving, or if you see other brands in stores theyll generally get less of a spotlight than Sennheiser which in effect makes Sennheiser look better to someone that doesnt know better.
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>>79679809
Not really. HD800S are still good headphones. The cheapest stax amp is $1000 since the 252S is discontinued and the 800S competes well with the Utopia. Not accounting for used stuff of course.
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>>79672256
Based and sensible in a sea of delusion.

>>79673856
Spending a bunch on audio equipment that doesn't perform well in objective measurements fills the same role for mid life crisis boomers rhat astrology does for white women in their late 20s.

>>79675533
Pray for those who were electrocuted by their schitty DACs.

>>79672740
Glad other people are arriving at the same place I did with my HD800

>>79679472
I upgraded from 6XXs to HD800s. The 6XXs have meh soundstage and aren't super clear for higher pitched noises (like a cymbal), but are otherwise excellent headphones and it's hard to justify upgrading from them unless you drop $1000. I wouldn't reccoment that DAC to someone buying new, but if you have it you won't be able to tell much of a difference between it and any other DAC, if you got all that for $400, your performance per dollar is just about as good as you can ask for.
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>>79679809
sennheiser has the mindshare so I don't think they feel pressured to innovate when people want to listen to the sennheiser legend and then proceed to convince their brains that this is what quality sounds like
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Redpill me on getting a Focal Elear/Elegia for 400 bucks (2nd hand)

I don't have a dac.
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>>79679887
Focal low/mid tier is equal to Sennheiser low/mid tier but with much worse sound stage
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>>79679864
Yeah, i got the g6 because i really wanted a mic input. I got the schiit fulla, but after it began earraping me every time i turned the volume knob, so i went with that. I understand that a better amp/dac might be better, but it doesn't sound to me like there would be one at that price point. If i decide at whatever point i REALLY need more quality, then i'll look at a better amp/dac. But like you said, i probably won't be able to tell the difference until a lot of money higher.

And as far as 6xx, i have tinnitus so very high pitched stuff like cymbals are already fucked for clarity.

But one question i have for you or anyone else. I think i might want another pair of headset to make up for that soundstage deficiency. That way I feel like i'll have all my content consumption bases at least decently covered. Any recommendations for a big soundstage something or other for less than $400, closer to $200-$300 ideally?
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>>79679887
that seems like a pretty great deal if there are no caveats
they're known for clipping at very high volume but that seems to be a non-issue in real world scenarios
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>>79679947
HE4XX have the best soundstage to price ratio of any headphones I've ever seen (comparable with my HD800s).

To be honest, once you've spent $100-150 or so on a DAC the law of diminishing returns kicks in super hard and they basically stop getting better (this is controversial but I've tested a lot of DACs, and there is barely a difference between $50 and $150, especially if your hearing is already a little fucked). Only get an amp if your current source cannot supply enough current to your headphones (which will manifest as less power in low tones), they can only add distortion otherwise.
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>>79679115
ANYONE?

ANYONE?

ANYONE?
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JDS el amp is a good amp?
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>>79680541
Yes, but kind of overpriced. Get a ZEN stack instead, or fork out a bit more cash for a THX amp.
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>>79680592
what if i combine JDS el with zero dac? it sound pretty damm good to be honest
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>>79679869
Unfortunetly this. It seems like most people just buy hd600 or hd800 by default, without ever considering if there are better options for the same price.
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Chilling with MDR1AM2. You can buy fun for $150.
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>>79679784
I disagree, nothing is worse than harmantardons.
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>>79678794
>a fatty is hot
Are you a burguer?
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>>79680789
Take a break from the femboy/trap threads. You'll realize women in shape still have curves.
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>>79680861
My wife is 165cm 50kg, yet has c cups and a big firm ass with a flat stomach.
That woman has fat legs with no definition and no waist. It wouldn't hurt her to do some exercise (fork pull ups don't count).
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My DT990 Pro's left can is dying whenever I play a loud sound. Any recommended replacement?
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>>79680913
Pics nigger
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>>79681043
here, this is my wife
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>>79681043
She likes to listen to music too.
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>>79681112
Unbelievably based
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>>79680286
Good to know about the he4xx. I'll give it a look.

And yeah, people say the amp and dac in the g6 is good enough, and the damn thing can certainly get loud enough that it hurts my damn ears, so i think it's fine? I don't really get how to really tell when an amp will or wont be fine, but it sounds fine, and people tell me it's fine, so it's probably fine. I hear it gives more power than the fulla anyhow.
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>>79681149
Unbelievably cringe
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>>79681149
Nice hooker
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can the hd800s sound even half as good as the focal clears when eq'd?
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>>79681357
Maybe if you really try fuck it up hard. They'll sound better usually.
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>>79679058
You could upgrade the pads on them to the stpad2 from Yaxi. they are p expensive but they do improve the sound quality, making it more balanced.
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>>79681206
There's a lot of electricity math that goes in to determining it with confidence, but the 6XX have 300 ohms impedence which is very high. V = IR, so the current (I) will be very low for a given voltage. The HE4XX has 35 ohms which is still pretty high. Some big planar magnetics have like 8 ohms, so they need to be run with low voltage and very high amperage to reach the same power (P = VA). For what you have you don't need to worry about it.
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>>79678997
What kind of music you listen to? you fag
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>>79681597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq2w_Zm2K3c
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>>79681635
fucking fag, i knew you had shit taste
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>>79681682
cringe and not hyperboreapilled
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>>79681696
Fuck off, there's not just one manufacturer in all china. Topping is the equivalent of schiit.
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>>79681737
the only difference is that their high end products don't perform like shit like schiit's do
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>>79681536
Yeah i'm not particularly concerned about it running either the 6xx or the he4xx. It has enough power, and anything (except maybe tube amp) stronger I probably just couldn't tell the difference.

One question though. Is there a sound quality difference that would be between high gain and low gain settings? I think i remember reading that everything should be set for the highest they go, except for the last step in volume to get the best sound quality. I have it at around 16% at high gain, and 50% at low. Is this correct in that the higher quality is at high gain, or does it not make a difference at all, just do whichever one has a more comfortable volume.
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>>79681149
Hey, anon. Are you interested in a trio?
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>>79681308
She disapproves of this post, and says that the resident audiophile is an idiot.
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>>79682010
Several trios
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>>79682012
Nobody cares about your hooker bro
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>>79671454
Are there any decent wireless headphones for sub 200? The wiki only has wired options. I just want to be able to chat with the boys while I'm grabbing a snack.
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>>79682070
Good taste.
Anyways, she's hot. Take care, anon.
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>tfw you pursued a hifi rig for years and have your dream headphones
>HD800S, LCD-3, and HD600
>but you can't use them for more than 30 minutes before they cause an external compression headache
I don't know why I even own them anymore
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>>79682229
Must suck being a bitch
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DO NOT BUY AUDIO TECHNICA

All Audio Technica products are made in China and engineered in Malaysia, while only the top management remains in Japan.

My Audio-Technica ATH-SR50BTBW broke down today, exactly one year and 6 days after I bought them.

Bluetooth stopped working all of a sudden when powering the headphones on. I am sure it is engineered obsolescence through some chip.
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>budget
$500 or so, preferably less but negotiable
>location
Usa
>Source
Using my pc with a magni 3+ and khadas tone board
>Current headphones
He4xx

I feel like the bass on the he4xx just doesn't hit hard enough for me. Any recommendations? Mostly listen to melodeath/industrial like cypecore and sybreed, but sometimes other genres as well.
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>>79681835
High gain is in theory the same or worse than low gain. Everything maxed except the last step is correct because digital equipment can only make things quieter by reducing the numeric values of the sound which loses information, and analog equipment performs worse at low powers. In general amplifiers have a problem where the left and right channel diverge in volume when the knob is set low (<20%), so you want the knob above this, thus low gain mode.
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>Stax question
If I got a KGST built with normal bias (230V) would it work well with the 007? I don’t really understand the limitations of normal bias vs pro bias.
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>>79682891
Why would you use it normal bias? Either way you could probably tap into the zener string and get normal bias and have the regular supply be pro bias.
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Want to upgrade from HD599s, looking at HD600s for £200 or Denon D5200 for £299, which is the better choice?
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>>79682920
It’s ironically my most powerful electrostatic amp, I got it secondhand and it only has normal bias. It updating it to pro as easy as adding a few zener diodes? Would it be possible to add a “pro/normal” switch?
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>>79683090
Might be simpler than that. If you can take a pic of the power supply pcb there should be a 1Mohm pot that adjusts the bias. Stick a voltmeter at the bias test point and turn it up or down to adjust the bias. You could record the exact resistor value that has the bias you want, and then run that to a switch on the front, but that would be ugly and you're running hundreds of volts through a random switch.
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>Sub 50 but willing to go higher
>US
>O2 + SDAC
>IEM
>I don't mind any level of isolation since I'll just be in a quiet room
>Comfy
>Balanced
>MDR-1ADAC, Onkyo A800. Favourite is my Beyer DT880's.

Thanks, to anyone who responds.
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After months of researching and saving some money I finally bought the fidelio x2 as my first proper headphone. I'm coming from the hyper x cloud 2 so I'm pretty excited to hear the difference. I know the x2 are very easy to power but what would you guys recommend for amps/dacs? Nothing too crazy. I was actually thinking of getting the motu m2 because I need an audio interface as well and I saw that its actually pretty decent as a headphone amp as well. Thanks for your help bros.
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>>79680618
It is a good pairing. You lose out on balanced options, but If you're set on the JDS amp, go for it.
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>>79671523
Double conversion UPS. The output is completely isolated from the input 100% of the time.
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Are velour earpads just terrible at sealing? I'm wearing some MDR7506s with them and I think they're worse than the Galaxy Buds Live at blocking out external noise.
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>>79678832
>>79680789
I'm European and if you think that woman is "a fatty" then I don't know, you need to reconsider your life in some way
I'd barely call her chubby
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>>79682695
Pls respond
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>>79683682
I wrote the first post. I don't think she's fat at all, just ugly.
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>>79682229
stretch that bitch out, dumbass. headbands are practically meant to be (carefully) bent to the right clamp force.
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>>79671454
Kek op
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>>79683901
Tried it, doesn't help.
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>>79682229
>external compression headache

What is this caused by? clamp force or weight on the top of your head?
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>>79683415
I don't need balanced because it's a meme. I have the combo already. Just asked your opinion about and el and it seems they are ok by your experience.
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Schiit Q&A session is live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToIjKCUvrow
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>>79683927
Both, really. Anything on my head does it.
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>>79683930
Wow, Mike Moffat looks like shit...
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>>79683930
he has corona
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>>79683918
you got jelly head or something then. maybe save up for endgame speaker room setup, sounds better anyways
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>>79683989
I've already got a desktop speaker setup and a dedicated speaker setup in the living room. They're great but I have roommates and working from home means I can't play music during the day because it would be obnoxious.
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>>79671454
Is Phonitor worth it or is software good enough to replicate the effect?
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>>79675067
>>79676306
That almost remind me of the Sony Playstation Gold headset, the headband hinges broke after the first month or so of use. The hinges were made of rather weak plastic. The only good thing about them is that they held their battery charge like forever.
Besides, I heard that the L700 have a much better build quality and better earpads. For starters the studs on the forks that hold each earcup are now made of metal, and the cable is now detachable.
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>>79683656
yes.
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For myself, it’s END GAME
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>>79683930
Reminder to not buy shit from these snake oil peddlers
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looking for headphones

>maximum comfy
>comfy on my giant head
>good isolation
>not bass heavy
>good mid and high detail
>$200-300

the old audio-technica ATH-A900 would have been a good candidate but apparently they're discontinued. in fact most of their closed back headphones with the wing system are gone. I'm thinking about importing the ATH-A900Z from japan but I want to see if there's something better out there.
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>>79684118
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>>79684118
im poor :(
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>>79684086
What are some good earpads for them that're at least decent at blocking noise and aren't made out of pleather in that case?
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Empire Ears Hero. How fucked am I?
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>>79684155
i like the brainwavz sheepskin ones but the openings are still a little small, like the factory pads.
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>>79683682
Based Scottish lad.
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>>79684118
I'm trying to get a SRM-353X and L700 mk II, while I'm also saving for a better DAC.
I just don't want to bother with a vintage STAX set. I know one guys that has been trying to sell a vintage STAX set (SR-X Mark 3 with SRD-7 box). The SRD-7 requires a receiver or speaker amp, which I neither don't have nor feel like buying one (again, I rather get a better DAC). I also heard that old STAX earspeakers suffer from channel imbalance, and are very sensitive to dust.
Maybe they sound great, but I rather have a new setup. Also, because the SRM-353X does have a channel balance control behind the volume dial.
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>>79682010
>>79682070
>>79682204
faggots, get out, it's an autistic world.
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>>79684121
Everything in audiophool world is snake oil
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>>79684136
at closed backs are really good, just bear in mind they don't have the best isolation.
Aren't a990z available in your country?
If you import from japan consider stepping up to a1000z, they go for just a little over $300 now (or $200-$250 used) and are well worth the difference.
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>>79675067
some stainless steel plate and jb weld
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>>79675067
sell them for parts/repair and learn from your mistake
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>>79684138
I hope you are able to improve your station in life anon
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>>79684213
Sounds like a plan anon, godspeed
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>>79684387
based seegalposter
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>>79684445
I dunno why I wrote segall and spelled it wrong when I meant oh sees pls forgive
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>>79684445
:)
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>>79684460
all good anon
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>>79684484
oh fuck it's even more lit than I could have imagined

all I have to offer is this mutilator
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>>79674786
>120V to 1/4" jack might do that too


Topping Hater! Could it be . . . meeze?
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>>79684556
nice
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>>79684137
>>79684138
>replying to the board retard
Nice.
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>>79684807
>t. seething poorfag
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>>79684642
Nice to see you back, staxbro. Did you get banned?

>>79683188
Alright I’ll take the bottom off and take a pic soon. It has a big block on top, is that the power supply? Or is that just part of the power supply and the PCB should be underneath?
I’m still learning electronics, reading shit in DIY magazines and remembering uni physics electronics theory.
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listening to clears everytime and they are just right!
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>>79684398
Thanks. I just ordered an L700 Mk 2 with an SRM-353x, but since I live a third world country, I had to order them from the US via an importing company of audio and music equipment. There are no official STAX dealers here.
As for the vintage STAX combo, I might get them in the future, provide the seller still has them. If it's for build quality alone, the SR-X Mark III beat any of the Lambdas by a long shot. For starters the headband is made of metal, including the earcup clamps. Also, the ones that this guy own are in great shape. Did you ever tried those? If so, how they stack up against the current STAX models?
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>>79683778
>>79682695
I just want my music to sound good bros, I see a lot of possibly good ones but there are equally as many who countershill them

Any opinions on the fostek th-610 or the meze 99 classic?
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>>79685130
nope, just busy
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>>79685203
Never tried them. Also in my first hand experience you seem misinformed about the build quality of the lambdas. Even the entry level l300 I’ve never had any issues or concerns. They are light and comfy.
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>>79672073
I hope you love bass.
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>>79675067
try 2 part epoxy
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>>79683656
The point of velour earpads is that your ears can breathe a bit more. Your ears are getting red when they're all sealed up by faux-leather pads.
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>>79685272
Fostexes have some of the best bass in the game with decent mids to boot but they also have ear rape treble. Never heard the Mezes.
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Self amplified Studio Monitors are taking over, for cheep.

U live in Good Times!
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I guess it depends on how You measure it
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Is it worth going from DT 770s to LCD-2?
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>>79671454
Best earbuds I can get <$30?
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>>79685435
Would you recommend the fostek for the price?
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>>79685203
Hey anon, I don’t have the SR-X but I have the SR-3, and they’re pretty similar with minor tuning differences (particularly, I’ve heard the SR-X Mk3 has better bass extension).
They are very solidly built, and have a nice, relaxed sound, but they’re missing the detail of modern lambdas, along with being much less comfy.
You’ll be very happy with the L700, I love mine, but you may want to pick up the SR-X someday. I still like listening to my vintage Stax.
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how do you fix a broken strain relief on headphones? i have a soldering iron and replacement jacks but im too scared to cut it off and resolder it because ive already tried it on a 3.5mm cord and completely fucked it
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>>79685716
>soldering
>not even once
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>>79685471
Powered monitors are garbage. Class D is the devil.
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I have a family member that owns a hifi store so I've been lucky to listen to some very expensive equipment.

Here's what I've taken away from all that exposure to high end gear.

>Diminishing Returns are a bitch
>Sometimes cheaper stuff does sound better
>Make sure you keep your front end scaled in price/quality with your speakers/headphones
>USB is horrible, buy a streamer or pi2aes or use literally anything but a PC as quickly as possible its a massive upgrade
>Once you're spending 10k plus on gear little things like power supplies CAN begin to matter. That doesn't mean they WILL matter.
>Don't let measurements influence what you hear.
>Small companies have more passion and generally have a greater interest in producing something great. Once a company like McIntosh or Audio Research is sold to a big conglomerate their products lose the magic.Stax is a victim of this phenomenon
>demo demo demo listen as much as you can before you buy.
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>>79685776
Class D is satan himself negative feedback is AIDS
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Good ears help
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>>79675120
There are a lot of bad review...
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>>79685806

>Class D is satan himself negative feedback is AIDS

Slow The Fuck Down Anon!

Everyone is listening off their Phone, anyways

Perfection is for My Livingroom
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>>79685953
>he doesn't have a quality usb dac
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>>79685953
>>79685964
I find it's more about the Transducer, generally
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>>79685354
Even if the L300 are sturdy enough, the SR-X in comparison, look like they are built like a tank.
I went for the L700 because they are the best current production earspeakers I could afford. As for the energizer box, I could have went for a D10, but it's really not much cheaper than the 353X, and I also don't need its pseudo portabilty.
I see you have a Sennheiser HD800S. I own one of those aswell, I plug them into a tube amp homemade by a local technician. The only problem is the DAC, it's a rather modest Modi 2 Uber, it's holding the rest of the equipment back. That's why I want to upgrade them with something with, at least, balanced outs.
The tube amp has 6SN7GT tubes, I upgraded those with CV-181TII. They add a little more warmth, but can also make the sound a little harsher.
>>79685669
Thanks, anon! I can't wait for them to get here.
If they are less comfy than the Lambdas is because, like I said before, they are built like a tank.
Worst case scenario, I ask for a refund, and get the SR-X Mk3 with the SRD-7, and a receiver.
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>>79685776
>Class D is satan himself negative feedback is AIDS

BUT ITS 98% EFFICIENT

Do You Battery?
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>>79685568
Do the Amanda's instead
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sorry

*puffs chest*
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The staxfag is samefagging again. Does he really believe we don't know? This is embarrassing.
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>>79686234
>Hifiman
Sorry, too chinese for me
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>>79671563
>Spending $800 on wave machines
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>>79686145
>If they are less comfy than the Lambdas is because, like I said before, they are built like a tank.
Actually, for me they’re less comfy because the padding is thin, my ear touches the inner panel, and the clamping force is a bit stronger than the L700. But we’re talking relatively speaking. I basically always am aware of the SR-3 on my head, not from discomfort, I just feel it— whereas the L700 I legitimately forget is on my head. Did you get the Mk1 or Mk2 L700? The metal headband for the Mk2 is really nice and I’ve been been considering getting it for my Mk1.
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>>79685626
Yes if you have high frequency hearing loss or are willing to EQ
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1990s
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>>79685784
Funny some of the small companies I've tried have had absolutely shit channel matching especially ZMF.
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Sorry!
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What are the best headphones I can get for up to $120?
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>>79686282
>tfw the seething nostax incel is raging that the staxchads are getting uppity again
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Bargainfag here, have both Grado SR80e's and ATH-AD500X's coming, which would be /hpg/ preferred? Coming from ATH M20X. Want to try open back.
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>>79686759
I'm a gradofag so I'd have picked them (but I'd out-bargain you and go the 60e desu).
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>>79686145
L700 are realllly nice. I only really enjoy the hd800s with tubes as well, woo audio Wa22 in particular, I love me some 6sn7, have a rather large selection of nos varieties. My main 2-channel stereo amp are mono block atma-sphere m60 which use 8x 6sn7 in total for the driver stage, then my atma-sphere pre/phono uses 2x 6sn7. I’m intimately familiar with them.

You are wise to go with a better dac, the Stax will let you know all about it.
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>>79686809
Is the Topping E30 not good enough for the L700? How about the D10 internal DAC?
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>>79686854
Have you ever heard an actual decent dac? Neither of those are good examples...
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>>79686854
Those are fine, I'd go with a balanced DAC though personally. Kills spurious USB noise and ground loop issues if any crop up in the future for you.
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>>79686854
For good dac look at something like this secondhand for ex
http://www.berkeleyaudiodesign.com/alpha-dac-series-2
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>>79686967
Clearly I haven’t lmfao. I just upgraded from my internal mobo DAC for the first time. I did hear more clarity going from the onboard to the E30, but I didn’t hear as much going from the E30 to the D10 (I mean the Stax D10, btw)

>>79687045
Jesus fuck, even secondhand that’s more than I paid for the headphones. Erm, earspeakers.
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Recommendations for an amp for DT 1990 pros? Around $350 or below?
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>>79687156
Yeah, the Stax d10 doesn’t have a good dac. Of course that isn’t the point of the d10 having a dac, it’s simply for convenience. but one wouldn’t buy l700 to only use with entry level garbage source gear now would they?
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>>79671454
>MP3 128kb/s
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>>79687156
It’s an example of an actually good dac. Look at their current model...
http://www.berkeleyaudiodesign.com/alpha-dac-reference-series-3
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>>79687293
Woops forgot pic
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>>79686361
I see. I get now why STAX designed the Lambdas to be so lightweight, so the user feels as if the sounds is coming out of thin air, as in magically. Nice!
I ordered the Mk 2. I really hope they'll deliver.
Sadly, I could only get a 100V japanese SRM-353X, but where I live the power mains are 220v 50hz. Luckily the dealer includes a 220 to 100v step down converter for free. The only bad thing about this is that if the converter fails, I will have to import another one, the ones I could get locally are all 220V to 110-120V. Those extra 10-20 volts could fry the components on the energizer, or reduce their lifespan. I'm aware that there are 220-230v energizer units, but they are hard to come by.
>>79686809
Originally when I got the HD800S I wanted to get a WA7 Fireflies 2nd GEN, but it was too expensive for me at the time. That's why I decide to get that handcrafted amp I mentioned. So far, it's a marked improvement over the Magni 2 Uber amp I had, which I sold.
As for the DAC, my intention is to get another Schiit, one that has balanced outs. The Modius is their budged offering with said outputs, but I'm really interested in their multibit/R2R DAC. So, ideally, I would love to get a Gungnir Multibit, which is almost like the Yggdrasil, but at a half of its price. If not, a Bifrost would do, and it's at a bit over a half of the price of a Gungnit Multibit.
I'm also open to other brands, as long as they have balanced outs.
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Best pair of headphones in the 1-3k USD price range. Looking for an upgrade for an Ananda set, but good under a El II stack, but could benefit from a dac/amp upgrade in the future.
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>>79687218
Get the RNHP, it's a little more expensive but it makes mine SING. If you're not some sort of simp who dislikes treble.
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>>79687354
I quite enjoy my hd800s with woo wa8 driving them. my favorite balanced dac is the Spectral Audio SDR-2000, still state of the art redbook dac.

http://www.spectralaudio.com/

The man who designed it was Keith Johnson btw. Of HDCD and Reference Recording etc fame See also Pacific Microsonics, and Berkeley Audio Design
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Is an Abyss headphone set a good buy without having the budget for $10k+ budget in equipment or are STAX the better meme.
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>>79687502
no
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>>79687502
Abyss are shit, Amir at audiosciencereview exposed them
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>>79687502
yes
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>>79687502
Stax aren’t a meme. Buy Stax.
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>>79671517
With every zeos Video, I feel like I'm slowly developing ADHD.
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>>79687359
pls respond...
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>>79687557
Then what does amir think is good? STAX?
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>>79674851
If you're driving from a laptop and you're casual, you'll probably like the Porta Pros. Convenient and sound good for the price.
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>>79687734
HD800S
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>>79683248
>sub 50
The only thing I can even think of is the KSC75s + Kramer mod + Yaxi pads. Fortunately, they're very good, and the Kramer mod is easy to accomplish.
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>>79683248
There is a dedicated IEM general you know?



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