How the fuck does ubuntu manage to be the only distro where the GNOME dock loads slow?wtf is this magic?
at least it used to be before they fucked everythang up
are they transitioning to snap full time?
>>78823270>why yes I do use Ubunghole 20.10 George Floyd how could you tell?
>>78823329Reject modernityEmbrace monke
for me it's xubuntu
For me, it's Kubuntu 20.04 LTS and KDE Neon
>>78823498>posts some random KDE picture from onlineDid your screenshooter krash already? lmao.
>>78823270>Ubuntu...home...at least it was before i fucked everything up
>>78823515>what is phone postingAlso, unlike Gnome's Screenshot tool, Spectacle actually works.Cope, seethe and dilate footfag
>>78823580>spectacle actually worksYears of being abused by Plasma in an abusive relationship says otherwise. It's a buggy pile of shit.
>>78823580>Anything KDE related>Worksahahah lmao anon you're funny hahaha
>>78823596werks on my machines >>78823625>bruceopinion discarded.thanks for namefagging tho, now I can preemptively ignore your posts.
>>78823678I don't give a fuck what you do lmao, I'm only warning innocent newfags of your lies.
>>78823270I'd use Kubuntu but it can't handle fingerprint sign-in.
>>78823390>>78823433based and mousepilled
>>78823752GNOME doesn't have this problem.PolicyKit also supports fingerprint authentication, meaning your graphical sudo prompts can also be authenticated by fingerprint.GNOME is the only serious desktop in Linux.
>>78823292why do distros always put a fucking dock on Gnome? Fedora is the only one that does it right
>>78823810NGL, the GNOME overview dock should also pop up on mouse-over at the screen edge.
>>78823270These fucks actually took away window snapping options like goddamn macfags.
>>78823810Because no sane person wants shit popping up randomly just because they moved their mouse out of the way.Gnome needs to understand that no one likes their hidden overview crap and just make a dock the default.
>>78823329>Ubunghole 20.10 George FloydNah this is Groovy Gorilla. You're thinking of 24.04 Nigardly Nigger.
>>78823270>whoops, haha, get screen tearing you must fix>whoops, nautilus is shit>whoops, there are no better alternatives that don't ruin aesthetics and run as well as file managers on windows>whoops, you can't sort and view files in any order you like by pressing arrows, only by date modified>whoops, firefox webrender will eat 10 gigs of your ram and system manager will pretend everything is okay and your CPU is not maxed while your system is frozenUbuntu... Fuck Ubuntu.
>>78823842Dock just annoys me. Windows key or alt+tab is faster and doesn't waste space trying to look like OSX.
>>78823856>screen tearing Not for me>nautilus is shitThis is why real GNU users use a fucking shell as a file manager>no better alternativesA fucking shell>blah blah file managerA FUCKING SHELL>firefox eats 10GB of RAMNot for me, fix your broken shit system.
>>78823869>windows key or alt-tabWindows key can bring up an overview and alt-tab still works. >waste space trying to look like OSXIt's a fucking icons-only task manager, something that's been around in GNU on multiple desktops and even in Windows for fucking ever.
>>78823988My personal preference is either keyboard shortcuts, or just put everything in a panel with dash-to-panel.Having a panel up top and then a dock somewhere else just constantly annoys the hell out of me personally. If you like it... fine... I just don't get why.
>>78824030just use xubuntu bro
These fuckers broke one of the core Nautilus features (copy file paths) for shitty desktop icons.
>>78823270>george floyd wallpaperplease tell me canonical went full sjw and made that default.
>>78823625>expecting to create folder in a file search where folder is undefinedare you really that fucking stupid?Inb4 "then why they do not remove search from file save dialo..."Because it lets you find and overwrite file you fucking imbecile.
>>78823270they fucking ruined it brosYaru was the only good theme for Gnome and they fucked it up by making the top bar 2 times biggerFUCK!
>>78823270for me it's kubuntu 20.04
>>78825257Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING about that picture is a UI design trainwreck. Jesus christ how the fuck do people tolerate these vomit inducing UI?
>>78823270Ubuntu... Linux for nigras.
>>78825286Gnome version is better
>>78825286what's wrong with it, Mr. UI designer?
>>78825332I can reduce width of panel so everything goes in 1 column as wellbut I have wide enough monitor so I can have thick side panel
>>78825286It is a prerequisite that you have down syndrome to be using KDE in the first place.
>>78825366Why don't you elaborate on what's exactly wrong with it?2 columns?as I said, it can be just like GNOME with 1 column if I wanted.
The most confusing thing about Ubuntu for me is the eponymous font. It looks fucking awful -- any other default sans serif fonts like much better, so why use it?
>>78823270>Ubuntu...home...But that's not Debian+Xfce, anon
Ubuntu is literally the most stable distro for desktop, but it's a little bloat in my opinion.
>>78825235Works on my Windows machine:tm:
>>78823270>Ubuntu took the monkepillbased
>>78823580>>what is phone postingit's cringe, go away
kys *buntu cringe
>>78823270I'm always sticking to LTS but still based
yasss, our linux
>>78823270so thats what they meant with 'return to monke'
>>78823270Why are Debian based distros the only good distros?
>>78823915Brb, gonna fix Firefox and Chromium not getting proper GPU acceleration and spiking my CPU usage for no reason.>b-b-but muh control over system!So much you can do with shitty driver support, fuck Ubuntu, literally worse for my laptop battery than bloated windows.
>>78823795>GNOME is the most serious desktopHahahaha, absolute state of lincuks desktop
>>78823270too bad they put a nigger on the wallpaper
>>78823270Pop OS improves on Ubuntu in every conceivable way.
>>78823270Ubuntu, but actually good.
>>78827884why is it still using gnome 3 as default DE then?
>>78823270I'm not supporting a distro that puts BLM George Floyd as the default wallpaper.
>>78825332That's somehow worse
>>78823270Speaking of Ubuntu, the desktop icons extension is fucking utter garbageIn 20.10 drag any desktop icon onto the dock and GNOME will crasht. ubuntu user
>>78828990$ sudo apt install kubuntu-desktopfixed
$ sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
>>78823270Is it just me, or does the gorilla look like Elon Musk?
>>78828990Imagine needing extensions to get fucking desktop icons.That's why you use Plasma kids.>>78829169Based.
>>78823270My go to live distro for fixing my Windows installation.
>>78828990That is why either you use Vanilla GNOME or you don't use GNOME at all.
I'm using Ubuntu now and it's fucking slick. Surprised at how much I like it despite it being so normie-tier.
>>78829619>That is why either you use Vanilla GNOME or you don't use GNOME at all.thank you for explaining it to me and helping me making a choice, faggot>>78829169done. rebooting.
>>78829619>or you don't use GNOME at all.Finally some good advice.
>>78830024There is nothing to explain. GNOME shell extensions break with every GNOME shell updates. It's a fact. You crying about broken extensions makes you a moron. Go and have a GNOME dev dick shoved up your ass if you love GNOME so much and don't want to install KDE or XFCE.
>>78829923What's so good about it? Haven't used ubuntu since like 12.10
>>78825286Looks good to me.
>>78823826>NGL, the GNOME overview dock should also pop up on mouse-over at the screen edge.I disagree with this. The bar on the left in Ubuntu is pretty nice and does a good job of having a convenient task bar while centering the screen a bit.
>>78823580GNOME's screenshot tool works perfectly, what problem are you having with it?
>>78823625in that image the user is attempting to create a directory inside some sort of search result
>>78823842>Because no sane person wants shit popping up randomly just because they moved their mouse out of the way.You can easily change this.
>>78830074Pretty much this. There's no customizability baked into Gnome and any modifications come from the community are hack and slash with a lot of prayer. Gnome truly is a tranny of a desktop.
>>78825286You don't understand. KDE is the good guys, while GNOME is evil and "sabotaging" GNU/Linux. You're supposed to praise everything the former does.
>>78823625Creating a folder from Specacle works fine for me, footfag.
>>78830229why would you need extensions at all?
>>78830249Because Gnome is trash and only third party hacks can make it barely usable.
>>78828990Desktop icons suck and they were always an UI antipattern since day 1.GNOME was right in removing them, but baby duck syndrome idiots keep pretending they need them.Oh, but of course, it's ok when autismwm does it instead. Suddenly, dekstop icons are for idiots then!
>>78823390Until the previous LTS only. Flatpacks are cancer.
>>78829923Imagine having been meme'd into the lie that you can't just use shit that just works because it's "normie-tier".
>>78830249Even GNOME devs use GNOME shell extensions. Stop being a pretentious retard.
>>78830249Because the Gnome devs hacked a bunch of shit off rendering their product useless. Tranny jokes aside, Gnome DE is basically a lump of semi dried out play-doh with some dog hair in it while KDE, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc are like a set of LEGOs.
>>78830306Yes, and many of them don't. What's your point?
>>78823810Because everyone uses extensions with GNOME anyway. Ubuntu is just doing the work for you because they know most people want it.
>>78830343>Because everyone uses extensions with GNOME anyway.
>>78830278The Gnome devs know what is best for you, for they are wise. They decide what you need and what you don't need, for they are infallible. Pray to the Gnome devs five times a day and you might get a decent DE in heaven.
>>78830189Consistently lags for 3 seconds before taking a screenshot
>>78830360>Pray to the Gnome devs five times a day and you might get a decent DE in heaven.Because those fuckheads aren't going to make one in this lifetime.
>>78830360I was using autismwm before you were born. I never needed desktop icons.
>>78830436And I never needed DE developers telling me how I am allowed to use my computer.
>>78830467Neither did I, what's your point?
>>78830249do you use any extensions in your browser?
>>78830528Yes because it isn't perfect, unlike GNOME.
>>78830528No. Would use ublock though if I didn't have pihole.
>>78830334The point is that you're a retard and using extensions is okay. Now fuck off.
holy fuck KDE tinkertrannies shut the fuck up already jesus christ enough
>>78823270Poop OS have BTFO Ubuntu in its own domain btw
>>78830229>Gnome truly is a tranny of a desktop.this. not even joking.
>>78823270I'm glad you found a home, OP.
it feels a lot faster than fedora for some reason
>>78829169this kills the footfags
>>78831354>And I have no idea what XFCE is or does sorry.my fucking sides
Man, that wallpaper sucks. I usually think their wallpapers are cool but that is just bad
>>78831160>The GNOME community prioritizes marginalized people's safety over privileged people's comfortThis is a straight up religious tenet. Why do so many otherwise atheistic people put up with it?
GNOME is and always will be the definitive Linux desktop environment. Throwing a hysterical tantrum will not change the fact that employed, successful linux users do not use meme hobbyist DEs. Tinkering with your window borders won't make KDE usable. Tinkering with your genitals won't make you a woman.krash n kys
>>78831409Gnome is almost dead
>>78831409No amount of cope will change the fact that Gnome is shit.
>>78831401When have atheists ever been above and beyond religious style fervor?
>>78831409>>78829619Nothing makes me cringe more than guhnome cultists
>said the /pol/-tier drone who can't stop himself from spreading KDE trans awareness in every thread
>>78831466holy shit that cant be real.right?
>>78831744Why the fuck is everyone here so obsessed with transgenders? Gnome users can't customise their DE, so they resort to customising their genitals?
>>78831792>I use gentoo>Actually uses Windows.
>>78831812I use both
>>78823270Ubuntu GNOME is not home at all, it's a crack den. GNOME is trash. Ubuntu Unity is home.
>>78823270Default ubuntu in 4:3 is probably the aesthetic desktop. Unironically looks better than 95% of anything posted on desktop threads
>>78831798>but gnomethis is what I'm talking aboutcompletely unhinged
>>78831827I have no idea what you are talking about.
>>78831772sadly it isgnome devs are hateful liberal imbeciles
>>78832003If they were liberal they would allow you to do anything
Gnome desktop paradigm is easily the best one on the market since it's the only one that was designed with the use of both mouse and keyboard as human interface devices unlike the paradigms of tiling window managers (just the keyboard) and macOS/Windows (just the mouse).If you're a poorfag running 10 year old device it's not going to work for you, it's clearly stated on Gnome's website. I use a modern ultrabook with it (both docked with a secondary screen) and on battery and it gets great battery life, despite the fact I fully acknowledge that using a more ~lightweight~ desktop could've improved it. 14 hours of normal use and 8 hours of intensive use out of a 72Wh battery allows me to use it for the entire day without sweating.Unlimited workspaces is a great feature, especially on a multimonitor setup where only the main screen gets "multiple workspaces" while the rest work like auxiliary workspaces with static content.Being able to launch an application, look for files, browse for contacts, use the calculator from the "Super" key menu (Winkey) is great. So is the mac-like "Overview" mode accessible from the same key that allows you to switch windows quicker than alt-tabbing.And Gnome is the only one that's graphically polished. You might not care about that but I and many other people do. Even non-gnome applications like chrome look native on it.Unfortunately /g/ is full of childish contrarians who absolutely despise anything that's not familiar to them hence the popularity of garbage windows clones like cinnamon and KDEGnome is logical, designed from the ground up to allow for better productivity, completely disregarded users "used" to a paradigm for the sake of making one that's better. Gnome is the default on the big four (ubuntu, debian, fedora, rhel/centos), it is the one getting the most attention from users and developers and it's performance is getting better with every release. It's THE gnu/linux DE.
>>78831354What's wrong with that?
>>78831401There is no such thing as a true atheist.
>>78832071>unlimited workspaceswhat if I want to always have at least 4 workspaces so I can program applications to open on specific ones?
>>78827884It's not an improvement if it's still using GNOME
Ubuntu is the best linux distro, what the fuck are you doing if you're not using ubuntu lol?
>>78830219yeah people forget it isn't windows so here you can have your cake and eat it too with a quick search through settings.literal non issue.
>2020>no way to set a solid colour background in Uboomboomlmao
tried getting fedora on my surface because I learned the gui comes touch readyhowever I ran into an issue now im lookin at lunubtu just waiting for a usb port dock so i can boot it up as I have no space to plug keyboard and usb bootdrive to push buttons
>>78833935gnome is the linux equivalent of win10's wm. it's target demographics are people who don't tweak how their system and have no use for such things.
>>78823270for me, its sneedbuntu
>>78834148Shut the fuck up, dumbass. GNOME is the Desktop Environment and Mutter is the WM. Illiterate fuck.
>>78832071Based and redpilled
>>78832118Then either stop wanting that or fuck off and stop using GNOME.
>>78834202Cinnamon is Gnome3 done right
>>78834229i don't use gnome baby
>>78834258Cinnamon is deprecated.
>>78834283Good. Stay with your autismwm or whatever other stupid shit you use. GNOME doesn't need stupid fucks like you in its userbase.
>>78834309I'm gonna guess this is some anti-gnome psyop
>>78831466Sorting by size is not part of GNOME vision of desktop. you should not bother to find solution to a fundamentally wrong concept like sort by a column
>>78834372show me where gnome gnomed you
>>78834372You can't sort by size in Gnome?
>>78834532this is for the search result window
>>78834202Deine Mutter ist fetter als Gnome
>>78834349No, footfags are actually this stupid and delusional about their shitty DE.
>>78834602Low IQ subhumans like you will never understand the superiority of GNOME. It's okay, you can still use Desktop Environments designed for retards or some autismwm and pretend to be cool on desktop threads. Now go back to ricing in your basement.
>>78834698krash n kys
>>78834643>to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Gnome[...]I don't do ricing, I use regular Plasma because it is a good DE and actually usable in its default form, unlike Gnome.
>>78832071do you think ubuntu's alterations to gnome are an improvement or a diminishment?
>>78834764Can't make Gnome much worse than it already is.
>>78823270so gdo i apt upgradeor apt dis-upgrade?and i can do the same in debian since its based on it, right?
>>78832071>Gnome desktop paradigm is easily the best one on the market since it's the only one that was designed with the use of both mouse and keyboard as human interface devicesGnome is simply not mouse centric. Try just mostly using the mouse while using it and you'll see that. It feels like shit constantly having to use the hot corner or the activities button just to see your programs or open windows.
>>78834797Are you projecting? I can't remember when I last had Plasma "krashing". Gnome on the other hand seems to break whenever you update.
>>78834859Ubuntu is designed so you never really have to use the terminal. I would just let the system update itself.
>>78834859Get Kubuntu instead
>>78834903oh cool. so i never have to log into my nas?
>>78834764They are what they are. They add a few more functionalities through extensions and big alteration which is the dock is great for new users transitioning from mac or Windows but in my opinion is unnecessary for users who are used to GNOME. It is whatever and can be disabled. They don't really alter anything that can't be undone by the majority of users if they don't like what they are seeing.
>>78834859I do dist-upgrade, it gives me the impression it's a more lax/natural method since it allows apt to include/remove packages that might be needed or are now obsolete, though I'm not really sure about how it works
>>78834896Lies, FUD and delusion.
>>78835082on /g/? say it aint so!
>not using the floppa version
>>78829923What does "normie tier" even mean? Accessibility compared to other distros? As far as I know, you can configure it down to every little process running, and it has good compatibility as it's popular. What else matters? In the end it's all about software and hardware compatibility.
>>78835193There would not be a Linux desktop community without KDE. Everyone hates Gnome, even its own users can only endure it with 67548 extensions installed.
>>78823270ubuntu harambe edition
>>78832989no it doesn't you faggotKDE in Kubuntu 20.10 is perfectly stable
>>78832087that gnome idiots try to dictate what should be removed from external apps just because gnome does not support some features?what should actually happen is that simply support for gnome should be removed from apps, and this is what is happening: see mpvgnome is almost dead
>>78829923The point of linux isn't social distinciton
>>78834372kek, I hope you are trollinggnome is literally over
>>78835684The mpv dev is an absolute king, I wish more developers would do what he did. Fuck Gnome, it is time to die.
after much testing and experimentation I have come to the conclusion that every single operating system and desktop environment is absolute dogshit. if you "like" or are a "fan" of any of them you should probably kill yourself because you're too stupid to live.computing is a fucking nightmare. someone wake me up
>>78832041>If they were liberal>they would allow you to do anythingyou must have somehow missed the entire evolution of liberalism in the last 10-20 yearsliberalism is all about hate and control now, closely mimicking darkest ages of communism
>>78825333oh, idk, the consistency trainwreck?Why is the "Show Desktop" button bigger than any of the tray icons? Why are all items of wildly different sizes?
>>78835752At the very least Macs have consistent design and great performance given the specs.
>>78828990legit, what the fuck are desktop icons for except piling garbage to forget about on there?I disable that shit on every new Ubuntu install
>>78835866I think it looks good.
>>78831466Carlos Soriano in particular is a fucking retard.I've watch him completely disregard multiple times observations that thousands of people brought to him. Nobody knows what his goal is, but it's probably a really stupid one that'll end up getting Nautilus forked and replaced.
>>78832989ZOMG! you sure showed those autistic Krauts!
>>78831823are you just saying that because you can't afford anything better than a 640x480 CRT?
>>78835475KDE isn't even used as the default DE on any popular distro. GNOME is the default on Ubuntu and Fedora. Keep crying and coping.
>>78835736>The mpv devIf you mean wm4 then he is not a mpv dev anymore. He got kicked out of the project and now GNOME devs are fucking his wife in his house, on camera, while he watches it on mpv in his basement kek
>>78827234Are you aware of the fact that Arch is not based on Debian?
>>78823580Do you have the thing where your start menu text goes all fucky and looks like missingno?Also my settings just straight up will. not. open.Pls respond, we're both in this together
>>78832071>Gnome is logical, designed from the ground up to allow for better productivityno it isn'tproductivity with gnome is about zerotry KDE for real productivity
>>78836815Are you aware that Debian based distros are the only good distros?
>Install Fedora with GNOME on Thinkpad x240>2 finger scrolling on the trackpad doesn't work>Install KDE>2 finger scrolling is suddenly fixedFuck GNOME
>>78830389known visual bug, but it also means you use a slow as fuck hdd that needs 3 seconds to write a small image.
>>78836815are you aware that arch sucks and debian stable is the only distro?
>>78837718I did in 2010. it took a weekened. why isn't there a single desktop os that is easy to use for an average person and not utterly horrible. I literally can't figure this out
>>78839146well anon, that's because you're retarded. linux is so easy it's pathetic
>>78839191nigger I have been doing this longer than you have been alive. I know the command to mount a device to whatever mount point. my fucking point is that I shouldn't have to open a terminal to get a file off of my flash drive. depending on whatever combination of distro and hardware you use this may or may not be broken. maybe it works fine but some other basic feature is totally fucked and you have to google for a solution. my point is that computing is an absolute nightmare and I challenge you to refute that
>>78839253well firstly people who don't use the terminal are retarded fags, but you don't need the terminal if you are mentally challenged and can't figure it out. just install any number of the gay desktop environments or file managers that can help you. or simply go use windows so you can play your video GAYMEN. after all, that's all you use your computer for, let's just be honest about that, that and porn you degenerate tranny cuckaroon. the only reason shit break is because of you, not linux. everything works just fine for me. there's nothing to refute, no one can refute you being a retard, my gayman
>>78827234Debian if something APT based, everything else is a clone or bloated.
>>78833935>DE can't even handle copy file paths anymore w/o a fucking extension or a patch>"kek snowflake functionality incels"How the fuck can anyone use this thing OOB for anything else than a Firefox and Terminal bootloader?
>>78836725Corporates want cheap and Qt costs money outside non profit free software projects, that's why. GUI on Linux is always an afterthought on any real word metric outside 3rd world refurbished PCs for UNESCO' schools or something like that anyways so anything fits. Literally anything.
>>78837741> not calling Gasping GroidYou fuckin blew your chance there bud.
>>78839388again, I've been doing this shit longer than you. 10 years of reading manpages and googing stackoverflow solutions to make basic functions of the OS work without getting in my way. do you have any idea how exhausting this is once you've graduated high school/college and gotten a job in the real world. I'm talking about a default install of the latest version of Ubuntu on modern hardware and shit is broken. there is no excuse for this.
>>78839469People use it happily and praise it as the best thing ever. Just ask bruce3434. If you don't like it then stop using it. It's just a DE after all. You can install literally any snowflake DE or autismWM on literally any Distro.
>>78839601>Run Ubuntu 20.10>Plug in USB>It appears in the file browser, auto mounted just like windowsThere isn't any broken "basic" functionality on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
>>78839625I have to edit my Grub config to make graphics work properly with AMD integrated graphhics work properly on Ubuntu 20.04. this shit is inexcusable.
>>78839716AMD Ryzen 5 3400G
>>78839733Phoronix says 3400g worked perfectly, where the 2200g was buggy>the Ryzen 5 3400G hasn't caused me any grief in testing on Linux over the past few weeks. Even when using the same motherboards/firmware and Linux software components, this Picasso APU has behaved fine without any stability problems or other headaches. It's a delight to see but frustrating that Raven Ridge was still buggy.https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-ryzen5-3400g&num=1I trust phoronix much more than I trust you
>>78839757I bought the CPU because of that phoroix review. I trust my own experience more than I trust you. I experienced these graphical glitches under a fresh install of both Ubuntu 20.04 and Kubuntu 20.04. I found the solution for it by googling something like "ubuntu amd 3400g", and the solution is to edit the grub configuration.I don't even entertain the possibility of running Windows on bare metal, I still use GNU/Linux because it's the best option available. are you really such a zealot that you go to these insane lengths to defend these inexcusable problems? do you really think we can't do better? you should be ashamed.
>>78839814From a quick google, some people seem to have an issue with iommu. The fix was to either disable iommu from the bios or add iommu=pt to /etc/default/grubI don't trust random retards on /g/ because half the time they are knuckle draggers who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag.Windows is not free from these sort of issues (I have had to dive into the reg editor a ton of times, which is arguably just as hard to do) so I don't think it's fair to criticize Ubuntu for a small incompatibility issue that you're equally as likely to find on windows.
>>78839918as I said multiple times, I FUCKING FIGURED THAT SHIT OUT. my point is, I shouldn't have to. I want everything to just work. I'm not using a difficult hardware setup, this is all common consumer stuff from the last couple of years. no matter what OS I'm using, Windows or Ubuntu or whatever, they should work without me having to choose between using linux and googling forum posts to make basic shit work or using Windows and having to set up a caching DNS server that blocks the Pentagon and NSA from seeing what I click on. the state of compuing is BEYOND FUCKED. please tell me you agree on this
What's the best web browser for Ubuntu? New Firefox is shit.
>>78840000I agree that everything should just work out of the box. What I'm saying is that both windows and Linux have issues that stop things "just werking" and that it's unfair to single one out while ignoring the other.Unironically MacOS is your best bet for something the just works, because they tightly control both the software and hardware.
>>78840045we're almost on the same page then. I don't think macos would recognize my AMD hardware. the industrial revolution and its consequences were a disastrous mistake for mankind
>>78840116Breathe dude, just breathe. Wrangling the penguin is frustrating.
>>78840197give me a hug bro, this is an absolutely bullshit miserable world and we can't face it alone. we'll get through it together man.somehow.
>>78840244Here you go. I just came from trying to unfuck a touchpad on my Ideapad 3. Another Grub mod.
>>78840116>I don't think macos would recognize my AMD hardware. I was only suggesting macOS because of apple's tight control on hardware i.e you have to buy it from them.
>>78831160>we don't treat people equallygot it
>>78823270>udindunot even once
>>78835866>muh consitentcyYou know nothing about design. The large button could be bigger if anything. Virtual desktops in xfce are my favourite feature.
>>78842762>xfeces userIt's you who has no idea about design
>>78830311>Gnome DE is basically a lump of semi dried out play-doh with some dog hair in>while KDE, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc are like a set of LEGOs.FUCKING THIS. PERFECT.
>>78840799>we don't treat people equallytypical liberal mindset
>>78837155>not using the nipplekys
>>78836725>GNOME is the default on Ubuntu and FedoraThat's more of an argument against GNOME than anything.
>>78844427Nobody cares about your shitty autistic toy distro.
@78839601LARPing or 10 years of genuine retardation.
>>78839578Windows is a DOS frontend.
>>78836976If by "real productivity" you mean "putting up with buggy shit" then I agree.
>>78844470Fedora is quite literally one of the most broken distros I have ever used. Even Arch is more stable holy shit.
>>78835684They can just ignore their request. It's not like they forced them.>>78835736wm4 was a retard who didn't understand shit about Wayland. Literally his only complaint was them not implementing the idle_inhibit protocol (which is an OPTIONAL extension), which even got merged in a PR.He literally did the very same thing he accused them of: not respecting standards. As of now, idle_inhibit is an optional Wayland protocol. A conforming Wayland application should not assume that the compositor supports it.>inb4 hurr wayland sucksThe situation in X11 is exactly the same, it uses XSS which is an optional extension.
>>78833935>they don't include GNOME tweaks by defaultWhat is or isn't included in a GNOME install is up to your distribution. GNOME has no say in it.
>>78823270oh yeah I just love me some of those snaps>fucking retard
>>78835866If show desktop were part of tray icons then yeah, it would be too big, but it's not, moron.>all items of wildly different sizesmaybe because icons are not square shaped with background color?shiet... why did they made lamp slimmer than clipboard!? this doesn't look right!
>>78823270It's a piece of shit, and cannonical is not free software spirit, trying to force snap, but it's still the easiest linux distro. Huge community. Lot's of problems answered. It's like a shit city, but you stay because it's convenient, and working.
debian stable is the distro as god intended for white men
>>78823390for me its ubuntu from minimal where the desktop environment is one i spun up myself from x11, dwm, alacritty, polybar, slock, nmtui, sxhkd, udisks2, probably a few more programs that i've forgotten or dont really consider to be part of the desktop environment, and a few scripts of my own
>>78831823Good space wasting
>>78831354>I have no idea what XFCE is or does, sorry.TREMENDOUSLY BASED
>>78835651>KDE in Kubuntu 20.10 is perfectly stablethis
>>78844522>2 panels overlapping>surprised tan when you hover the left panel it goes in front of the top onejust shorten the left panel below the top one and you will be good, faggot
>>78835651>KDE>StableKDE users are unable to see glitches and bugs in their DE. Their standard is simply too low. Don't believe them.
>>78823270could somebody upload this wallpaper? I want to use it on my non-ubuntu computer.
>>78835755Imagine thinking that "the authoritarian left" is the same as "liberalism"
>>78848187>the desktop environment is one i spun up myself from x11, dwm, alacritty, polybar, slock, nmtui, sxhkd, udisks2,I bet you think the time you wasted with all this broken shit is ever going to pay off.
>>78850195what do you mean pay off? i do it 'cuz it's fun
>>78830291Ubuntu includes snappy, not flatpak
>>78825286Can't unsee, the fucking clock is not even aligned. I feel good for not falling for the KDE meme.
>>78830024installed. SHIT IS CASH.I have modified panel a bit, changed some options, and now it is PERFECT.I was so fucking dumb to use Gnome all that time. Fuck my stupidity.>>78829169THANK YOU
>>78850979I too remember being this excited about Plasma.At first.
>>78851019nice gnome shilling
>>78851019Doesn't happen on every distro. And it's easily fixed in literally 30 seconds.