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Ubuntu...home...
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How the fuck does ubuntu manage to be the only distro where the GNOME dock loads slow?
wtf is this magic?
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>>78823270
DAS RAYCISS
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at least it used to be before they fucked everythang up
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are they transitioning to snap full time?
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>>78823270
>why yes I do use Ubunghole 20.10 George Floyd how could you tell?
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>>78823329
Reject modernity
Embrace monke
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for me it's xubuntu
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>>78823390
Patrician taste
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For me, it's Kubuntu 20.04 LTS and KDE Neon
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>>78823498
>posts some random KDE picture from online
Did your screenshooter krash already? lmao.
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>>78823270
>Ubuntu...home...
at least it was before i fucked everything up
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>>78823515
>what is phone posting
Also, unlike Gnome's Screenshot tool, Spectacle actually works.
Cope, seethe and dilate footfag
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>>78823270
>footfag
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>>78823580
>spectacle actually works
Years of being abused by Plasma in an abusive relationship says otherwise. It's a buggy pile of shit.
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>>78823580
>Anything KDE related
>Works
ahahah lmao anon you're funny hahaha
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>>78823596
werks on my machines
>>78823625
>bruce
opinion discarded.
thanks for namefagging tho, now I can preemptively ignore your posts.
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>>78823678
I don't give a fuck what you do lmao, I'm only warning innocent newfags of your lies.
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>>78823270
I'd use Kubuntu but it can't handle fingerprint sign-in.
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>>78823390
>>78823433
based and mousepilled
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>>78823390
Same here.
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>>78823752
GNOME doesn't have this problem.
PolicyKit also supports fingerprint authentication, meaning your graphical sudo prompts can also be authenticated by fingerprint.

GNOME is the only serious desktop in Linux.
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>>78823292

why do distros always put a fucking dock on Gnome? Fedora is the only one that does it right
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>>78823810
NGL, the GNOME overview dock should also pop up on mouse-over at the screen edge.
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>>78823270
These fucks actually took away window snapping options like goddamn macfags.
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>>78823810
Because no sane person wants shit popping up randomly just because they moved their mouse out of the way.
Gnome needs to understand that no one likes their hidden overview crap and just make a dock the default.
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>>78823329
>Ubunghole 20.10 George Floyd
Nah this is Groovy Gorilla. You're thinking of 24.04 Nigardly Nigger.
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>>78823270
>whoops, haha, get screen tearing you must fix
>whoops, nautilus is shit
>whoops, there are no better alternatives that don't ruin aesthetics and run as well as file managers on windows
>whoops, you can't sort and view files in any order you like by pressing arrows, only by date modified
>whoops, firefox webrender will eat 10 gigs of your ram and system manager will pretend everything is okay and your CPU is not maxed while your system is frozen
Ubuntu... Fuck Ubuntu.
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>>78823842

Dock just annoys me. Windows key or alt+tab is faster and doesn't waste space trying to look like OSX.
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>>78823856
>screen tearing
Not for me
>nautilus is shit
This is why real GNU users use a fucking shell as a file manager
>no better alternatives
A fucking shell
>blah blah file manager
A FUCKING SHELL
>firefox eats 10GB of RAM
Not for me, fix your broken shit system.
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>>78823869
>windows key or alt-tab
Windows key can bring up an overview and alt-tab still works.
>waste space trying to look like OSX
It's a fucking icons-only task manager, something that's been around in GNU on multiple desktops and even in Windows for fucking ever.
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>>78823988

My personal preference is either keyboard shortcuts, or just put everything in a panel with dash-to-panel.

Having a panel up top and then a dock somewhere else just constantly annoys the hell out of me personally. If you like it... fine... I just don't get why.
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>>78824030
just use xubuntu bro
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These fuckers broke one of the core Nautilus features (copy file paths) for shitty desktop icons.
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>>78823270
>george floyd wallpaper
please tell me canonical went full sjw and made that default.
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>>78823625
>expecting to create folder in a file search where folder is undefined
are you really that fucking stupid?
Inb4 "then why they do not remove search from file save dialo..."
Because it lets you find and overwrite file you fucking imbecile.
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>>78823270
they fucking ruined it bros
Yaru was the only good theme for Gnome and they fucked it up by making the top bar 2 times bigger
FUCK!
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>>78823270
for me it's kubuntu 20.04
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>>78825257
Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING about that picture is a UI design trainwreck. Jesus christ how the fuck do people tolerate these vomit inducing UI?
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>>78823270
Ubuntu... Linux for nigras.
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>>78825286
Gnome version is better
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>>78825286
what's wrong with it, Mr. UI designer?
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>>78825332
I can reduce width of panel so everything goes in 1 column as well
but I have wide enough monitor so I can have thick side panel
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>>78825286
It is a prerequisite that you have down syndrome to be using KDE in the first place.
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>>78825366
Why don't you elaborate on what's exactly wrong with it?
2 columns?
as I said, it can be just like GNOME with 1 column if I wanted.
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The most confusing thing about Ubuntu for me is the eponymous font. It looks fucking awful -- any other default sans serif fonts like much better, so why use it?
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>>78823270
>Ubuntu...home...
But that's not Debian+Xfce, anon
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Ubuntu is literally the most stable distro for desktop, but it's a little bloat in my opinion.
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>>78825235
Works on my Windows machine:tm:
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>>78823270
monke
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>>78823270
>Ubuntu took the monkepill
based
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>>78823270
ugh gnome
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>>78823580
>>what is phone posting
it's cringe, go away
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kys *buntu cringe
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>>78823270
I'm always sticking to LTS but still based
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yasss, our linux
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>>78823270
so thats what they meant with 'return to monke'
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>>78823270
Why are Debian based distros the only good distros?
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>>78823915
Brb, gonna fix Firefox and Chromium not getting proper GPU acceleration and spiking my CPU usage for no reason.
>b-b-but muh control over system!
So much you can do with shitty driver support, fuck Ubuntu, literally worse for my laptop battery than bloated windows.
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>>78823795
>GNOME is the most serious desktop
Hahahaha, absolute state of lincuks desktop
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>>78827642
Rent free.
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>>78823270
too bad they put a nigger on the wallpaper
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>>78823270

Pop OS improves on Ubuntu in every conceivable way.
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>>78823270
Ubuntu, but actually good.
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>>78827884
why is it still using gnome 3 as default DE then?
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>>78823270
I'm not supporting a distro that puts BLM George Floyd as the default wallpaper.
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>>78825332
That's somehow worse
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>>78823270
Speaking of Ubuntu, the desktop icons extension is fucking utter garbage
In 20.10 drag any desktop icon onto the dock and GNOME will crash
t. ubuntu user
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>>78828990
$ sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop

fixed
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>>78823270
Is it just me, or does the gorilla look like Elon Musk?
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>>78828990
Imagine needing extensions to get fucking desktop icons.
That's why you use Plasma kids.

>>78829169
Based.
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>>78823270

My go to live distro for fixing my Windows installation.
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>>78828990
That is why either you use Vanilla GNOME or you don't use GNOME at all.
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I'm using Ubuntu now and it's fucking slick. Surprised at how much I like it despite it being so normie-tier.
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>>78829619
>That is why either you use Vanilla GNOME or you don't use GNOME at all.
thank you for explaining it to me and helping me making a choice, faggot
>>78829169
done. rebooting.
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>>78829619
>or you don't use GNOME at all.
Finally some good advice.
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>>78830024
There is nothing to explain. GNOME shell extensions break with every GNOME shell updates. It's a fact. You crying about broken extensions makes you a moron. Go and have a GNOME dev dick shoved up your ass if you love GNOME so much and don't want to install KDE or XFCE.
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>>78829923

What's so good about it? Haven't used ubuntu since like 12.10
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>>78825286
Looks good to me.
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>>78823826
>NGL, the GNOME overview dock should also pop up on mouse-over at the screen edge.
I disagree with this. The bar on the left in Ubuntu is pretty nice and does a good job of having a convenient task bar while centering the screen a bit.
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>>78823580
GNOME's screenshot tool works perfectly, what problem are you having with it?
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>>78823625
in that image the user is attempting to create a directory inside some sort of search result
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>>78823842
>Because no sane person wants shit popping up randomly just because they moved their mouse out of the way.
You can easily change this.
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>>78830074
Pretty much this. There's no customizability baked into Gnome and any modifications come from the community are hack and slash with a lot of prayer. Gnome truly is a tranny of a desktop.
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>>78825286
You don't understand. KDE is the good guys, while GNOME is evil and "sabotaging" GNU/Linux. You're supposed to praise everything the former does.
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>>78823270
>linux
LOL
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>>78823625
Creating a folder from Specacle works fine for me, footfag.
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>>78830229

why would you need extensions at all?
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>>78830249
Because Gnome is trash and only third party hacks can make it barely usable.
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>>78828990
Desktop icons suck and they were always an UI antipattern since day 1.
GNOME was right in removing them, but baby duck syndrome idiots keep pretending they need them.

Oh, but of course, it's ok when autismwm does it instead. Suddenly, dekstop icons are for idiots then!
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>>78823390
Until the previous LTS only. Flatpacks are cancer.
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>>78829923
Imagine having been meme'd into the lie that you can't just use shit that just works because it's "normie-tier".
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>>78830249
Even GNOME devs use GNOME shell extensions. Stop being a pretentious retard.
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>>78830249
Because the Gnome devs hacked a bunch of shit off rendering their product useless. Tranny jokes aside, Gnome DE is basically a lump of semi dried out play-doh with some dog hair in it while KDE, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc are like a set of LEGOs.
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>>78830306
Yes, and many of them don't. What's your point?
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>>78823810
Because everyone uses extensions with GNOME anyway. Ubuntu is just doing the work for you because they know most people want it.
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>>78830343
>Because everyone uses extensions with GNOME anyway.
[citation needed]
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>>78830278
The Gnome devs know what is best for you, for they are wise. They decide what you need and what you don't need, for they are infallible.
Pray to the Gnome devs five times a day and you might get a decent DE in heaven.
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>>78830189
Consistently lags for 3 seconds before taking a screenshot
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>>78830360
>Pray to the Gnome devs five times a day and you might get a decent DE in heaven.
Because those fuckheads aren't going to make one in this lifetime.
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>>78830360
I was using autismwm before you were born. I never needed desktop icons.
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>>78830436
And I never needed DE developers telling me how I am allowed to use my computer.
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>>78830467
Neither did I, what's your point?
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>>78830249
do you use any extensions in your browser?
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>>78830528
Yes because it isn't perfect, unlike GNOME.
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>>78830528

No. Would use ublock though if I didn't have pihole.
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>>78830334
The point is that you're a retard and using extensions is okay. Now fuck off.
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holy fuck KDE tinkertrannies shut the fuck up already jesus christ enough
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>>78823270
Poop OS have BTFO Ubuntu in its own domain btw
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>>78830229
>Gnome truly is a tranny of a desktop.
this. not even joking.
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>>78830991
No.
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>>78823270
I'm glad you found a home, OP.
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it feels a lot faster than fedora for some reason
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>>78829169
BASED
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>>78829169
this kills the footfags
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>>78831354
>And I have no idea what XFCE is or does sorry.
my fucking sides
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Man, that wallpaper sucks. I usually think their wallpapers are cool but that is just bad
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>>78831160
>The GNOME community prioritizes marginalized people's safety over privileged people's comfort
This is a straight up religious tenet. Why do so many otherwise atheistic people put up with it?
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>>78823390
*kubuntu
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GNOME is and always will be the definitive Linux desktop environment. Throwing a hysterical tantrum will not change the fact that employed, successful linux users do not use meme hobbyist DEs. Tinkering with your window borders won't make KDE usable. Tinkering with your genitals won't make you a woman.
krash n kys
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>>78831409
Gnome is almost dead
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>>78831409
No amount of cope will change the fact that Gnome is shit.
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>>78831401
When have atheists ever been above and beyond religious style fervor?
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>>78831409
>>78829619
Nothing makes me cringe more than guhnome cultists
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>said the /pol/-tier drone who can't stop himself from spreading KDE trans awareness in every thread
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>>78831466
holy shit that cant be real.
right?
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Gentoo...home...
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>>78831744
Why the fuck is everyone here so obsessed with transgenders? Gnome users can't customise their DE, so they resort to customising their genitals?
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>>78831792
>I use gentoo
>Actually uses Windows.
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>>78831812
I use both
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>>78823270
Ubuntu GNOME is not home at all, it's a crack den. GNOME is trash. Ubuntu Unity is home.
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>>78823270
Default ubuntu in 4:3 is probably the aesthetic desktop. Unironically looks better than 95% of anything posted on desktop threads
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>>78831798
>but gnome
this is what I'm talking about
completely unhinged
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>>78831827
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>78831772
sadly it is
gnome devs are hateful liberal imbeciles
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>>78832003
If they were liberal they would allow you to do anything
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Gnome desktop paradigm is easily the best one on the market since it's the only one that was designed with the use of both mouse and keyboard as human interface devices unlike the paradigms of tiling window managers (just the keyboard) and macOS/Windows (just the mouse).

If you're a poorfag running 10 year old device it's not going to work for you, it's clearly stated on Gnome's website. I use a modern ultrabook with it (both docked with a secondary screen) and on battery and it gets great battery life, despite the fact I fully acknowledge that using a more ~lightweight~ desktop could've improved it. 14 hours of normal use and 8 hours of intensive use out of a 72Wh battery allows me to use it for the entire day without sweating.
Unlimited workspaces is a great feature, especially on a multimonitor setup where only the main screen gets "multiple workspaces" while the rest work like auxiliary workspaces with static content.
Being able to launch an application, look for files, browse for contacts, use the calculator from the "Super" key menu (Winkey) is great. So is the mac-like "Overview" mode accessible from the same key that allows you to switch windows quicker than alt-tabbing.
And Gnome is the only one that's graphically polished. You might not care about that but I and many other people do. Even non-gnome applications like chrome look native on it.

Unfortunately /g/ is full of childish contrarians who absolutely despise anything that's not familiar to them hence the popularity of garbage windows clones like cinnamon and KDE

Gnome is logical, designed from the ground up to allow for better productivity, completely disregarded users "used" to a paradigm for the sake of making one that's better. Gnome is the default on the big four (ubuntu, debian, fedora, rhel/centos), it is the one getting the most attention from users and developers and it's performance is getting better with every release. It's THE gnu/linux DE.
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>>78831354
What's wrong with that?
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>>78831401
There is no such thing as a true atheist.
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>>78832071
>unlimited workspaces
what if I want to always have at least 4 workspaces so I can program applications to open on specific ones?
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>>78827884
It's not an improvement if it's still using GNOME
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Ubuntu is the best linux distro, what the fuck are you doing if you're not using ubuntu lol?
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>>78830219
yeah people forget it isn't windows so here you can have your cake and eat it too with a quick search through settings.
literal non issue.
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>2020
>no way to set a solid colour background in Uboomboom
lmao
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>>78830291
why
>>78825910
it doesn't
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tried getting fedora on my surface because I learned the gui comes touch ready
however I ran into an issue now im lookin at lunubtu just waiting for a usb port dock so i can boot it up as I have no space to plug keyboard and usb bootdrive to push buttons
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>>78829169
>Krashes
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>>78831704
>tells him to use Vanilla GNOME or just stop using GNOME
>calls me a cultist
You can't recognize good advice, can you? GNOME devs absolutely seethe and cringe at their users tinkering with their GNOME desktops. They don't even want you to change themes and fonts on it which is why they don't include GNOME tweaks by default and why they will NEVER fully integrate tweaks into the settings app. These are FACTS.
GNOME is a highly opinionated Desktop, you either do things the GNOME way or you aren't really using GNOME as far as the devs are concerned. So why should you care what the devs think? Because they will deliberately push updates that fuck with your snowflake extensions and they will make life difficult for you. And when you go crying to them on their gitlab or on r/gnome, they will insult you and laugh at you. A good and friendly community that shares the same views in the basis of such open source projects and GNOME wants you tinkerers to fuck off. Imagine how pathetic it is to be crying about desktop icons being bugged on your desktop in 2020. Desktop icons. Literally every other DE on Linux and Windows has desktop icons working fine, out of the box, with any hacky extensions written in fucking JAVASCRIPT, you absolute mongloid. If these basic features are so precious to you, maybe you should stop crying and take control of your desktop.
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>>78833935
gnome is the linux equivalent of win10's wm. it's target demographics are people who don't tweak how their system and have no use for such things.
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>>78823270
for me, its sneedbuntu
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>>78832118
This
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>>78834148
Shut the fuck up, dumbass. GNOME is the Desktop Environment and Mutter is the WM. Illiterate fuck.
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>>78832071
Based and redpilled
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>>78832118
Then either stop wanting that or fuck off and stop using GNOME.
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>>78834202
Cinnamon is Gnome3 done right
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>>78834229
i don't use gnome baby
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>>78834258
Cinnamon is deprecated.
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>>78834283
Good. Stay with your autismwm or whatever other stupid shit you use. GNOME doesn't need stupid fucks like you in its userbase.
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>>78834309
I'm gonna guess this is some anti-gnome psyop
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>>78831466
Sorting by size is not part of GNOME vision of desktop. you should not bother to find solution to a fundamentally wrong concept like sort by a column
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>>78834372
show me where gnome gnomed you
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>>78834372
You can't sort by size in Gnome?
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>>78834532
this is for the search result window
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>>78834202
Deine Mutter ist fetter als Gnome
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>>78834349
No, footfags are actually this stupid and delusional about their shitty DE.
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>>78834602
Low IQ subhumans like you will never understand the superiority of GNOME. It's okay, you can still use Desktop Environments designed for retards or some autismwm and pretend to be cool on desktop threads. Now go back to ricing in your basement.
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>>78834643
cope
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>>78834698
krash n kys
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>>78834643
>to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Gnome[...]
I don't do ricing, I use regular Plasma because it is a good DE and actually usable in its default form, unlike Gnome.
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>>78832071
do you think ubuntu's alterations to gnome are an improvement or a diminishment?
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>>78834764
Can't make Gnome much worse than it already is.
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>>78834757
>krashes
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>>78823270
so g
do i apt upgrade
or apt dis-upgrade
?
and i can do the same in debian since its based on it, right?
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>>78832071
>Gnome desktop paradigm is easily the best one on the market since it's the only one that was designed with the use of both mouse and keyboard as human interface devices
Gnome is simply not mouse centric. Try just mostly using the mouse while using it and you'll see that. It feels like shit constantly having to use the hot corner or the activities button just to see your programs or open windows.
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>>78834797
Are you projecting? I can't remember when I last had Plasma "krashing". Gnome on the other hand seems to break whenever you update.
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>>78834859
Ubuntu is designed so you never really have to use the terminal. I would just let the system update itself.
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>>78834859
Get Kubuntu instead
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>>78834903
oh cool. so i never have to log into my nas?
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>>78834764
They are what they are. They add a few more functionalities through extensions and big alteration which is the dock is great for new users transitioning from mac or Windows but in my opinion is unnecessary for users who are used to GNOME.

It is whatever and can be disabled. They don't really alter anything that can't be undone by the majority of users if they don't like what they are seeing.
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>>78834859
I do dist-upgrade, it gives me the impression it's a more lax/natural method since it allows apt to include/remove packages that might be needed or are now obsolete, though I'm not really sure about how it works
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>>78834896
Lies, FUD and delusion.
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>>78835082
on /g/? say it aint so!
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>not using the floppa version
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>>78835082
Cope footfag. Enjoy your javascript DE.
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>>78835211
>krashes
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>>78829923
What does "normie tier" even mean? Accessibility compared to other distros? As far as I know, you can configure it down to every little process running, and it has good compatibility as it's popular. What else matters? In the end it's all about software and hardware compatibility.
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>>78835193
There would not be a Linux desktop community without KDE. Everyone hates Gnome, even its own users can only endure it with 67548 extensions installed.
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>>78823270
ubuntu harambe edition
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>>78832989
no it doesn't you faggot
KDE in Kubuntu 20.10 is perfectly stable
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>>78832087
that gnome idiots try to dictate what should be removed from external apps just because gnome does not support some features?
what should actually happen is that simply support for gnome should be removed from apps, and this is what is happening: see mpv
gnome is almost dead
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>>78829923
The point of linux isn't social distinciton
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>>78834372
kek, I hope you are trolling
gnome is literally over
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>>78835684
The mpv dev is an absolute king, I wish more developers would do what he did. Fuck Gnome, it is time to die.
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after much testing and experimentation I have come to the conclusion that every single operating system and desktop environment is absolute dogshit. if you "like" or are a "fan" of any of them you should probably kill yourself because you're too stupid to live.

computing is a fucking nightmare. someone wake me up
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>>78832041
>If they were liberal
>they would allow you to do anything
you must have somehow missed the entire evolution of liberalism in the last 10-20 years
liberalism is all about hate and control now, closely mimicking darkest ages of communism
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>>78825333
oh, idk, the consistency trainwreck?

Why is the "Show Desktop" button bigger than any of the tray icons? Why are all items of wildly different sizes?
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>>78835752
At the very least Macs have consistent design and great performance given the specs.
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>>78828990
legit, what the fuck are desktop icons for except piling garbage to forget about on there?

I disable that shit on every new Ubuntu install
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>>78835866
I think it looks good.
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>>78831466
Carlos Soriano in particular is a fucking retard.

I've watch him completely disregard multiple times observations that thousands of people brought to him. Nobody knows what his goal is, but it's probably a really stupid one that'll end up getting Nautilus forked and replaced.
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>>78832989
ZOMG! you sure showed those autistic Krauts!
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>>78831823
are you just saying that because you can't afford anything better than a 640x480 CRT?
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>>78835475
KDE isn't even used as the default DE on any popular distro. GNOME is the default on Ubuntu and Fedora. Keep crying and coping.
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>>78835736
>The mpv dev
If you mean wm4 then he is not a mpv dev anymore. He got kicked out of the project and now GNOME devs are fucking his wife in his house, on camera, while he watches it on mpv in his basement kek
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>>78827234
Are you aware of the fact that Arch is not based on Debian?
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>>78823580

Do you have the thing where your start menu text goes all fucky and looks like missingno?

Also my settings just straight up will. not. open.

Pls respond, we're both in this together
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>>78832071
>Gnome is logical, designed from the ground up to allow for better productivity
no it isn't
productivity with gnome is about zero
try KDE for real productivity
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>>78836815
Are you aware that Debian based distros are the only good distros?
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>Install Fedora with GNOME on Thinkpad x240
>2 finger scrolling on the trackpad doesn't work
>Install KDE
>2 finger scrolling is suddenly fixed
Fuck GNOME
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>>78830389
known visual bug, but it also means you use a slow as fuck hdd that needs 3 seconds to write a small image.
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>>78835752
Install Gentoo
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>>78823270
>obongo
No.
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>>78836815
are you aware that arch sucks and debian stable is the only distro?
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>>78837718
I did in 2010. it took a weekened.
why isn't there a single desktop os that is easy to use for an average person and not utterly horrible. I literally can't figure this out
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>>78839146
well anon, that's because you're retarded. linux is so easy it's pathetic
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>>78839191
nigger I have been doing this longer than you have been alive. I know the command to mount a device to whatever mount point. my fucking point is that I shouldn't have to open a terminal to get a file off of my flash drive. depending on whatever combination of distro and hardware you use this may or may not be broken. maybe it works fine but some other basic feature is totally fucked and you have to google for a solution. my point is that computing is an absolute nightmare and I challenge you to refute that
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>>78839253
well firstly people who don't use the terminal are retarded fags, but you don't need the terminal if you are mentally challenged and can't figure it out. just install any number of the gay desktop environments or file managers that can help you. or simply go use windows so you can play your video GAYMEN. after all, that's all you use your computer for, let's just be honest about that, that and porn you degenerate tranny cuckaroon. the only reason shit break is because of you, not linux. everything works just fine for me. there's nothing to refute, no one can refute you being a retard, my gayman
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>>78827234
Debian if something APT based, everything else is a clone or bloated.
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>>78833935
>DE can't even handle copy file paths anymore w/o a fucking extension or a patch
>"kek snowflake functionality incels"
How the fuck can anyone use this thing OOB for anything else than a Firefox and Terminal bootloader?
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>>78836725
Corporates want cheap and Qt costs money outside non profit free software projects, that's why. GUI on Linux is always an afterthought on any real word metric outside 3rd world refurbished PCs for UNESCO' schools or something like that anyways so anything fits. Literally anything.
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>>78837741
> not calling Gasping Groid

You fuckin blew your chance there bud.
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>>78839388
again, I've been doing this shit longer than you. 10 years of reading manpages and googing stackoverflow solutions to make basic functions of the OS work without getting in my way. do you have any idea how exhausting this is once you've graduated high school/college and gotten a job in the real world. I'm talking about a default install of the latest version of Ubuntu on modern hardware and shit is broken. there is no excuse for this.
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>>78839469
People use it happily and praise it as the best thing ever. Just ask bruce3434. If you don't like it then stop using it. It's just a DE after all. You can install literally any snowflake DE or autismWM on literally any Distro.
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>>78839601
>Run Ubuntu 20.10
>Plug in USB
>It appears in the file browser, auto mounted just like windows
There isn't any broken "basic" functionality on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
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>>78839625
I have to edit my Grub config to make graphics work properly with AMD integrated graphhics work properly on Ubuntu 20.04. this shit is inexcusable.
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>>78839661
What cpu
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>>78839716
AMD Ryzen 5 3400G
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>>78839733
Phoronix says 3400g worked perfectly, where the 2200g was buggy
>the Ryzen 5 3400G hasn't caused me any grief in testing on Linux over the past few weeks. Even when using the same motherboards/firmware and Linux software components, this Picasso APU has behaved fine without any stability problems or other headaches. It's a delight to see but frustrating that Raven Ridge was still buggy.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-ryzen5-3400g&num=1

I trust phoronix much more than I trust you
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>>78839757
I bought the CPU because of that phoroix review. I trust my own experience more than I trust you. I experienced these graphical glitches under a fresh install of both Ubuntu 20.04 and Kubuntu 20.04. I found the solution for it by googling something like "ubuntu amd 3400g", and the solution is to edit the grub configuration.

I don't even entertain the possibility of running Windows on bare metal, I still use GNU/Linux because it's the best option available. are you really such a zealot that you go to these insane lengths to defend these inexcusable problems? do you really think we can't do better? you should be ashamed.
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>>78839814
From a quick google, some people seem to have an issue with iommu. The fix was to either disable iommu from the bios or add iommu=pt to /etc/default/grub

I don't trust random retards on /g/ because half the time they are knuckle draggers who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag.
Windows is not free from these sort of issues (I have had to dive into the reg editor a ton of times, which is arguably just as hard to do) so I don't think it's fair to criticize Ubuntu for a small incompatibility issue that you're equally as likely to find on windows.
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>>78839918
as I said multiple times, I FUCKING FIGURED THAT SHIT OUT. my point is, I shouldn't have to. I want everything to just work. I'm not using a difficult hardware setup, this is all common consumer stuff from the last couple of years. no matter what OS I'm using, Windows or Ubuntu or whatever, they should work without me having to choose between using linux and googling forum posts to make basic shit work or using Windows and having to set up a caching DNS server that blocks the Pentagon and NSA from seeing what I click on. the state of compuing is BEYOND FUCKED. please tell me you agree on this
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What's the best web browser for Ubuntu? New Firefox is shit.
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>>78840000
I agree that everything should just work out of the box.
What I'm saying is that both windows and Linux have issues that stop things "just werking" and that it's unfair to single one out while ignoring the other.
Unironically MacOS is your best bet for something the just works, because they tightly control both the software and hardware.
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>>78840045
we're almost on the same page then. I don't think macos would recognize my AMD hardware.

the industrial revolution and its consequences were a disastrous mistake for mankind
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>>78840116
Breathe dude, just breathe. Wrangling the penguin is frustrating.
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>>78840197
give me a hug bro, this is an absolutely bullshit miserable world and we can't face it alone. we'll get through it together man.somehow.
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>>78840244
Here you go. I just came from trying to unfuck a touchpad on my Ideapad 3. Another Grub mod.
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>>78840116
>I don't think macos would recognize my AMD hardware.
I was only suggesting macOS because of apple's tight control on hardware i.e you have to buy it from them.
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>>78831160
>we don't treat people equally
got it
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>>78823270
>udindu
not even once
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>>78835866
>muh consitentcy
You know nothing about design. The large button could be bigger if anything. Virtual desktops in xfce are my favourite feature.
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>>78823625
fuck baloo
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>>78842762
>xfeces user
It's you who has no idea about design
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>>78830311
>Gnome DE is basically a lump of semi dried out play-doh with some dog hair in
>while KDE, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc are like a set of LEGOs.
FUCKING THIS. PERFECT.
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>>78840799
>we don't treat people equally
typical liberal mindset
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>>78837155
>not using the nipple
kys
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>>78836725
>GNOME is the default on Ubuntu and Fedora
That's more of an argument against GNOME than anything.
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>>78844427
Nobody cares about your shitty autistic toy distro.
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@78839601
LARPing or 10 years of genuine retardation.
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>>78839578
Windows is a DOS frontend.
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>>78836976
If by "real productivity" you mean "putting up with buggy shit" then I agree.
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>>78844470
Fedora is quite literally one of the most broken distros I have ever used. Even Arch is more stable holy shit.
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>>78835684
They can just ignore their request. It's not like they forced them.

>>78835736
wm4 was a retard who didn't understand shit about Wayland. Literally his only complaint was them not implementing the idle_inhibit protocol (which is an OPTIONAL extension), which even got merged in a PR.
He literally did the very same thing he accused them of: not respecting standards. As of now, idle_inhibit is an optional Wayland protocol. A conforming Wayland application should not assume that the compositor supports it.
>inb4 hurr wayland sucks
The situation in X11 is exactly the same, it uses XSS which is an optional extension.
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>>78833935
>they don't include GNOME tweaks by default
What is or isn't included in a GNOME install is up to your distribution. GNOME has no say in it.
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>>78823270
oh yeah I just love me some of those snaps
>fucking retard
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>>78835866
If show desktop were part of tray icons then yeah, it would be too big, but it's not, moron.
>all items of wildly different sizes
maybe because icons are not square shaped with background color?
shiet... why did they made lamp slimmer than clipboard!? this doesn't look right!
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>>78823270
It's a piece of shit, and cannonical is not free software spirit, trying to force snap, but it's still the easiest linux distro. Huge community. Lot's of problems answered. It's like a shit city, but you stay because it's convenient, and working.
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>>78823303
tpbp
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debian stable is the distro as god intended for white men
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>>78823390
for me its ubuntu from minimal where the desktop environment is one i spun up myself from x11, dwm, alacritty, polybar, slock, nmtui, sxhkd, udisks2, probably a few more programs that i've forgotten or dont really consider to be part of the desktop environment, and a few scripts of my own
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>>78831823
Good space wasting
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>>78831354
Fuck GNOME.
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>>78831354
>I have no idea what XFCE is or does, sorry.
TREMENDOUSLY BASED
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>>78835651
>KDE in Kubuntu 20.10 is perfectly stable
this
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>>78844522
>2 panels overlapping
>surprised tan when you hover the left panel it goes in front of the top one
just shorten the left panel below the top one and you will be good, faggot
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>ubuntu
>gorilla
Fitting.
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>>78835651
>KDE
>Stable
KDE users are unable to see glitches and bugs in their DE. Their standard is simply too low. Don't believe them.
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>>78823270
could somebody upload this wallpaper? I want to use it on my non-ubuntu computer.
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>>78835755
Imagine thinking that "the authoritarian left" is the same as "liberalism"
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>>78848187
>the desktop environment is one i spun up myself from x11, dwm, alacritty, polybar, slock, nmtui, sxhkd, udisks2,
I bet you think the time you wasted with all this broken shit is ever going to pay off.
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>>78850195
what do you mean pay off? i do it 'cuz it's fun
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>>78830291
Ubuntu includes snappy, not flatpak
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>>78825286
Can't unsee, the fucking clock is not even aligned. I feel good for not falling for the KDE meme.
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>>78830024
installed. SHIT IS CASH.
I have modified panel a bit, changed some options, and now it is PERFECT.
I was so fucking dumb to use Gnome all that time. Fuck my stupidity.

>>78829169
THANK YOU
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>>78850979
I too remember being this excited about Plasma.
At first.
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>>78851019
nice gnome shilling
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>>78851019
Doesn't happen on every distro. And it's easily fixed in literally 30 seconds.



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