ATTENTION:>Big Navi AIBs launch Nov 25>Radeon RX 6900XT launch Dec 8>FOR UPGRADE OR BOTTLENECK ADVICE, POST COMPLETE SPECS INCLUDING MONITOR>Assemble a part listhttps://pcpartpicker.com/>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR DISPLAY IF GAMING>Example gaming build skeletons and monitor suggestions; click on titles above parts lists to see noteshttps://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/Want help?>State BUDGET, CURRENCY, and MONITOR>List your USES (e.g., gaming, editing, VM work)>Post at least some attempt at a parts listCPUs>G5420 / R3 3200G - HTPC, web browsing>R3 3100 - Budget gaming>R5 3600 - midrange 144Hz>R5 5600X - high 144Hz>R9 5900X / 5950X - Professional tasksUpgrade advice: if you already have a 3rd gen R5 or 8th/9th gen i7 or better, you're fineMobos:>AM4 mobos - https://imgur.com/JS5OHFH>B550 VRM - https://imgur.com/a/cwgge3y>AMD B, X, Intel Z chipsets support XMPRAM>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is standard>RAM speeds of 3200CL16 or more recommendedGPUsConsider power consumption and driver quality>USED RX570/RX580 - budget 1080p>GTX1650 Super - budget 1080p; meh value>GTX1660 Super - budget 1080p 144Hz; meh value>RX5600XT - 1080p 144Hz; meh value>RTX3070/RX 6800 - 1440p 144Hz>RTX3080/RX 6800XT (NO DLSS) - 2160pCase and cooling>Many AIOs do not outperform large air coolers>Mesh fronts typically improve airflow and temperature>Static pressure fans recommended for poorly ventilated casesStorage>A 500GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; NVMe if close in price to SATA>Avoid DRAM-less SSDs>https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide_List.pdfPSU>Aim for 50-75% at load for build>At least semi modular, 80+ Bronze>https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator>https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/Monitor>For monitors, include purpose and GPU pairing>Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's 144Hz with adaptive syncPrevious: >>78815081
I have in my possession an mITX (b550) board and a PCIe Gen3 M2 NVMe SSD.I'm planning on getting an NZXT H1 to put it in. The mobo has two M2 slots, one PCIe Gen4 on the front with active cooling & heatsink, one PCIe Gen3 on the back. If I go for the H1, there is space to include the second drive, but not a heatsink, and it'll be pushed right up against the back of my GPU.Could I get away with buying a Gen4 drive to put on the front (taking advantage of the PCIe gen4 slot) and sticking the current Gen3 drive on the back next to the GPU, or will that run too hot without a heatsink?Realistically is there much difference between a PCI Gen3 and Gen4 NVMe SSD?
>>78821440gen3 drive doesn't need a heatsink, but gen4 will
>>78821440>Could I get away with buying a Gen4 drive to put on the front (taking advantage of the PCIe gen4 slot) and sticking the current Gen3 drive on the back next to the GPU, or will that run too hot without a heatsink?They wouldn't put the M.2 slot in that location if it wasn't safe. >Realistically is there much difference between a PCI Gen3 and Gen4 NVMe SSD?In data transfer, yes. In general use or gaming, no.
>>78821459>>78821460I'm slightly worried that the layout of the H1 case is unusual, in that the GPU is attached via a riser cable so it sits right underneath the motherboard where the second M2 slot is. A "normal" case layout wouldn't have it there so it'd presumably have better airflow on the rear drive.Would gaming or watching high bitrate video risk damaging the drive if airflow was minimal and there was a GPU emitting heat right next to it?
>>78821507I really don't know, anon. You'd have to find someone who has built a rig in that exact configuration.
>>78821507this is the current temp of my gen3 NVME drive whilst gaming
why doesnt noctua make more coolers? I'm gonna end up buying an h100i platinum.
Any Detroitfags wanna' got to Microcenter and pick up and ship me a R5 3600?
>>78821546i should add that I am on an ATX board, but even if you're 15c hotter it won't be bad as a normal temp apparently is between 60-70C
>>78821565I could, actually. But I won't. Drive out there your damn self.
>>78821580He's just a baby anon, obviously he cant
>>78821538>>78821546Looks like some redditor with the same case said his drive idled around 60C and peaked around 70C during 3Dmark. I don't know if it'd be sensible to have a drive which would end up pushing max operating temp every time I stressed my GPU.
>>78821580Well sheet. At least rob them at gunpoint. Tell them I sent ya'.
>>78821206BEEEG HUWHITO NAAABI
I got a 5800x off Amazon and it ships in 3 weeks. Do I cancel or keep it for 450$?
>>78821640doing a bit of research, 70C isn't okay for sustained periods but if you have adequate cooling/airflow you should be fine
not a building question but is it going to damage my gpu by fluctuating 1-2 degrees every second or so?
>>78821206I’d like some advice for building a PC for both editing and gaming with a budget of $1200 — $2000 (USD). Explain everything to me like I’m a 3 year old bc I’m very novice at PC building.
>>78821828Do you have a monitor you intent to keep using? If so, what is it?
Some recommend me a motherboard for a 5900x please.Also whats a good ssd for under 300?
>>78821839No I don’t have any monitor(s) in mind
Anything that I should upgrade/downgrade?
Is there anything incompatible or offensively bad about this build? No previous experience with building, I want to start with a machine for general work and medium gaming that I won't need to upgrade for a while.
>>78821897the monitor, 4k is a meme
>>78821873Okay well that is going to eat away at your budget pretty considerably then. My initial idea is a Ryzen 5800x + B550 motherboard, RTX 3070 (or 6800 XT, whichever you can find), 32 GB of RAM, 750W PSU, 1440p144 monitor, NVME SSD. Try throwing something together in PC Part Picker and posting the result here.
>>78821872get a 2TB 970 Evo Pro.
>>78821931Love you anon
>>78821926Thank you for the pointers anon! I’ll do my research and save up more as well!
>>78821914Looks alright. If you can find a 3600 for $200, save yourself the 40 bucks. The cooler is overkill for that CPU. You could get away with something much cheaper. Motherboard is fine, but you could save a few bucks by picking one without built in wifi, assuming you don't need it. The storage ratio you have there is pretty weird, but you do you. I'd pick the P500A over the Enthoo. 650W is more than sufficient for that build, no need for 750.
>>78821921>4k is a meme>monitor is 2kretard
>>78821914300 will land you a 5600xt which is a lot better than the 1660super.
>>78821897Get a 5600x and a B550 mobo instead. Meshify is pretty shite. Otherwise it's good.
>>78821974yes, 2k is a meme
>>78821914I feel like the price is pretty high for what you have. I'd get the 3600, keep the stock cooler, b550 with wifi would be cheaper(b550 auros pro ac is okay), you can get cheaper tforce ram for 60, p400a case is cheaper and better, psu is too much for what you have.
>>78821825are temperature fluctuations just not a problem at all?
>>78822027Nope. Entirely normal.
Will a 3080 blow up my house if I only have a 650w psu
>>78822069No, but it could suddenly shut down your PC every now and again.
Any poverty tier build guides?I don't game and will use linux which idles ~500mb memoryJust want something reliable that'll last for a while
>>78822149Literally just buy some discarded office PC.
Best case under $75? The more included fans the better.
Whats a good new/used budget (~300$ to ~400$ CAD) card for VR? I have a i7 2600k, 16gb ram, GTX 770 and looking at getting a used OG HTC Vive. I'm thinking a used GTX 1060/1070 or RX 580. And I am aware my rig is dated but I don't feel like spending 1k to 2k CAD upgrading it even if I have the money, at least for now. At least if I get a good GPU now I can use it when I upgrade everything else later.
>>788222295700xt, 2070. You really ought to upgrade, though.
>>78822172I'll either have to upgrade internals or be overpayingI just want a cheap, functional build not poverty tier I suppose
>>78822285How much do you want to spend? Pick a number.
What's the best filter material for front fans? I'm getting a disgusting amount of dust in my case every couple months.
>>78822314What's your fan configuration?
>>78822306$500 maxSSD is the only thing i definitely want but it can be <100 gigs
>>78822389you can get >>78822389do you have a monitor?
>>78822069Depends on CPUPersonally r5 3600 with a 3080 runs perfectly fine with a 650w. But when I upgrade to a 10700k I plan to buy a 750w psu. Hoping to find black Friday deals
>>78822389Here you go bro: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nCpXRT
>>78822389meant to say that you can get the minimum or entry tiers from logicalincrements.com depending on you having a monitor or not.
>local microcenter has 5600x and 3080 in stockAre they really as scarce as people say?
>>78822482I'm trying to buy the 5600x and haven't been able to find one online, so yes.
>>78822482sadly, not everyone has a local microcenter
I need help.I recently bought a Dell S2721DGF 165hz 1440p monitor. After I plugged her in I downloaded some dell driver package from dells website with some color profile. Now every time I start up my computer it will max out at 120hz not 165hz. I think it has something to do with the color format being in YCbCr422 instead of RGB. It will let me switch to 165hz after using monitor buttons to change "AMD FreeSync Premium Pro from ON to OFF. But when I turn my computer off and back on it keeps reverting and I have to fuck with it. How do I fix my monitor/nvidia/windows display settings to keep my monitor in 165hz and stop it from reverting to 120?
Is the benchmark for 3060 ti real?Im upgrading from 1060 and wanted 144fps gaming
>>78822444>>78822475My bad, I got peripherals and I have a shitty old case I could dust off but the fans might not work. Worth it to get another case?>>78822464Thanks bro
R5 2600 or i5 10400F for 20$ more? 3600 is out of my budget and I just need something snappy as I rarely game and want to be set for the next 5 years at least.
Last gen AMD home server buildJust going to use this to run web applications in docker containers, and related services (ie. db, nginx, elasticsearch).Key thing is 3700X + decent timing 3200mhz ddr4, everything else is generally as low cost as I could get, except gold PSUPrices in AUD, planning to use for 3-4 yearsThere's not much benefit to liquid cooling cpu for server use right?
Seems like undervolting the 3080 is the way to go
>>78821970Not the anon you replied to, but is it better to get a mobo with wifi, or get a wifi card? My internet speed out here is awful, so the only thing I care about is being able to connect to the router. I assume the PCie wifi card thingies have a better range than the USB ones?
Redpill me on AMD vs Intel doing my first build
Can't belive retails are selling the RTX 3070 for $1000 usd and the RTX 3080 for $1300 in my country (Mexico)
>>78822314ask your mom for pantyhoes they make great dust filters
I already have a 290x in my current PC that I'm just transferring over, with the possibility of snagging another off of ebay or somethingWill this last me at least 8 years without needing upgrades other than the GPU and monitor? My current PC was mostly built in 2011 and its showing its age.Main goal is 1080p gaming and being able to multitaskI'm also waiting to see if anything goes on a decent sale monday, so I'm willing to change stuff up last minute as long as its not too much of a deviation from what I've settled on.
>>78821658Lol newegg delivered my 5600x no less than 72 hours after submitting the order (standard shipping). Now you're waiting around trying to decide to cancel like an idiot while I'm holding mine deciding if I want to scalp it (like a genius)
>>78822542You sound like the prime candidate to get a think pad. Unless you absolutely want a desktop setup.
Deciding between the focus gx 850 and the rmx 850 gold. Anyone have any advice for which psu to get? Just looking for the best reliability and a quiet psu! Thanks again
>>78822597A dedicated card will get a better signal, but it's usually not worth it.
>>78822661What's your build
>>78822657Should I take the thinkpill? Problem is I don't want have to switch systems in a few years since laptops like to shit out
>>78822661Go with Seasonic, Corsair is just packaged Seasonic
>>78822682Rtx 3080 founder 5900xNoctua cooler Crosshero 8 mobo970 evoP500aG skill 2x16Sorry don’t have the pc part picker on me but that’s what I have rn
>>78822708Yeah it’s also 5 dollars cheaper as well was just getting scared about the Chinese fan not being that good on the sea sonic one
>>78822693I mean, take a look at TPG, but theyre known for being ultra reliable, and one of the easiest laptops to fix. The model matters a whole lot, but there is a reason that schools used the same thinkpads for years.
>buy some 2TB hard drives for a storage array>FUCKING SMRWHYYYYYYYY
>>78822778>SMRSHOUD HAVE DONEE YOUR RESEARCH
>>788223232x120mm front intake, 1x120mm rear exhaust, 1x120mm top-rear exhaust.
>>78822628Do they actually not mess with air intake?
>>78822746Fan isn't much of a problem as long as you keep within 50-75% of estimated wattagehttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/shm6QD
>>78822812You could solve a lot of your dust issues by just removing the top fan.
>>78821897buy a 1080p 60hz monitor instead
>>78822851How so? Do I add it to the front and have 3 intake?
>>78822778Just keep them until SSDs of the same capacity get cheap enough to replace them.
>>78822891You could do that, too. Positive pressure (more intake than exhaust) reduces dust in your system.
>>78822841Thanks for the heads up and the list!
>>78822899>>78822907Thank you, I'll do that. Though, my case has a mesh front with grilles large enough to let some dust through. I noticed it plastered onto my 24pin power cable in the direction of the intake fans. I'm considering doing what that one anon suggested above, and lining the front cover with pantyhose.
>>78821206I want to make it clear that I'm not shilling here, but there's youtube streams up that are giving people a chance to monitor when nvidia, intel, and amd parts get stocked. Again I ain't shilling, but I figure some of you fucks out there would appreciate at least a glimmer of hope at being able to buy what you want to get.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMQwh5NCNBchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqXstx6Vphg
>>78822649crossfire is dead
why yes, my CPU cooler can cool an african village, how could you tell?
>>78823045>crossfire is deadWhat does that even mean? I read that going forward, they aren't focusing on crossfire or SLI for GPUs, but theres no real reason that it wouldn't work for an older card that already supported it.I'm just thinking ahead and a second cheap card would probably last me a few more years instead of replacing a card entirely.
>>78823104is this a scythe fuma 2?>>78823129most games don't even support crossfire anymore, and that will only become more of the case moving forward. sure you can play games from 10 years ago in crossfire, but you could probably already play such old games fine on a single 290x
>>78823146Assassin III. Would have gotten a NH-D15S Chromax but it wasn't available until today, and isn't in stock until next month on amazon.
>>78823104>He doesn't live in an environment where he can crack open a window and enjoy a brisk -10C room within minutes.
>>78823170o ok. i got a fuma 2 to cool my 5600x, was gonna get something better when i was planning on a 5800x but that thing looked like a housefire regardless of what cooler you used.
>>78823174Do you even need case fans? I live in norcal where it'll hover around 5-10c for the next few months and even then my laptop stays cool as opposed to dying during the summer.
Any point upgrading beyond the stock cooler with my 5600x if I'm not overclocking? So far noise and heat don't seem too bad but I haven't played anything super CPU heavy yet.
>>78823186I think these chonkers all perform similarly, I honestly think they look cooler than an aio.
is it worth getting a r5 2600X over the regular 2600 if its only like 5 bucks more?
>>78823220well what temps do you get during a stress test?
>>78823146Good to know. I don't really play many things that arent indie or old enough to go on a decent sale. I knew that support was patchy, but I didn't realize exactly how patchy. In that case I'll probably just have to upgrade in a few years or when I upgrade my monitor.
are cpu's with more than 6 cores a meme for gaymen? new consoles seem to be 8 core so i'm not sure if its worth making the jump to an i7/ryzen 7
Bros, my LG 24GM77 144hz monitor is dying. I love it. I imagine among people into high grade monitors it's not so great, but to me it looks nice and it goes down to a 1ms response time which is great since I play fighting games competitively, CS too seasonally.Is there anything out there comparable for a decent price? I would've bought the same monitor but it's out of production. I'm trying not to go over 350 bucks but I dunno how realistic that is.
Should I get a 5600x for $340 or a used 3900x for $415?Going to mainly be gaming but the extra cores do seem great for productivity.wihout too much of a hit
>>78823025Shingled Magnetic Recording. It's a way of increasing density on HDDs at the expense of random read/write speed.
>>78823300absolutly the 5600x
>>78823212I was just memeing. Unless you want snow permanently in your room in the winter, you should keep your window closed, and get a fan for your case. It is nice though in the winter when my laptop doesn't get heat stroke.
>>78823309Does a HDD say if it's SMR in its product description, or is it random?
>>78822533Heard 3060ti performed around 2080s which is about as 5700xt... Don't think it's worthy 1060bro.
>>78823281No, they just might not be cost effective because 5800X yields are low and the 5600X teabags older 8 cores. If we had a $350 5700X everyone would want it.>>78823300Unless you're just including tax and import costs, get 5600X for MSRP. They're already lingering in stock for minutes rather than seconds, so scalping won't last much longer.
>>78822655The 5800x is selling at $500 on ebay IN HAND and that's before this big wave.There is no profit to be had.
>>78823347You have to look up the details for each model. WD was deliberately obfuscating it a while ago and all of them were avoiding announcing it in the marketing material.
>>78823347Not always, which is super fucking Jewish of them. Read reviews!
Considering getting a RTX 2060 Super as they're about half the price of a 3070 here in my country.I have a 1440p 144hz monitor and i5 8700k cpu, been using a GTX 970 for the last 6 years, hoping the 2060 super will last me another 5 years.What do you guys think?
I don't think we'll ever see a generation as dumb as zoomers. Perpetually keeping things out of stock because they need instant gratification and are willing to pay scalper prices. It's hilarious. Has it ever been this bad? I can't remember a time that AMD and Nvidia were completely sold out of everything and can't keep up with """demand."""Been waiting with a 3570k and will keep waiting.
Can anyone recommend a good interface device for photoshop/adobe products? When I try to use my mouse, the travel isn't finite enough to easily move objects/images into desired position.
I have an old Zalman Z9 with this mounting system.I have to replace a HDD and add a SSD.Does the inateck ssd kit work with this system?
does anyone have an asus strix motherboard? when you install the audio drivers do you have to install that sonic studio garbage?
So 4 sticks of ram is better than 2 now? Do I have to buy a 4-pack or can I just buy two more of the same ones I already have? And what's all this about tightened timings and infinity fabrics for Zen 3? Is there some resource for learning what the best options are?
>>78823565Are you just going to ignore the ongoing pandemic, how there's a shortage of GDDR6X (Micron makes it for Nvidia), how AMD stupidly overburdened a single chip manufacturer across three different market segments (both next gen consoles, CPU and GPU)? This is the perfect storm to ruin a supply chain.
>>78823646just wait for the inevitable LTT and gamer's nexus videos.
>>78823646Just get 16gb ram sticks so you know it's dual rank. That's why zen 3 is faster.
i upgraded to 1440p and i cant tell the difference between this and 1080. damn, I should have gone for 4k
>>78823675Most monitor sizes have a comparable pixel density between 1080p and 1440p. It's only worth it if you're at 27 inches or lower.
>>78823675You should notice a reduction in aliasing with AA off. I did right away. While 4k makes it where you don't need AA at all, 1440p makes the shimmering less noticeable. Most games offer shitty FXAA which makes everything a blurry mess and MSAA is a resource hog.
>>78823668How do I tell if the 8gb sticks I already have are dual rank?
Is the 5800X a no-go due to thermal problems?
>>78823709I'm playing MHW which has shit AA options and it still looks jaggy as fuck at 1440p. Guess I still need to inject some SweetFX SMAA. At least I have 165hz
>>78823726>Guess I still need to inject some SweetFX SMAAStill way less taxing than native 4k, which is why they came up with DLSS and all that sorta gimmicks.
So our piece of shit retailers are limiting RTX 3080 for the complete pre-builds onlyBUTI think my friend is going to build ones next week, maybe I can just asked them if I can "buy" 2 3080s?I heard 3070ti is coming but I think I'm willing to pay $100 more because my GPU is unusable now as it is now completely dead yesterday and also fuck waiting.
What kind of PC I can build for 1500$ ?
>>78823827A gayming PC
im building a new pc and bought a WD sn550 to put in it. i have an old samsung 860 evo from my old pc. which one would be better as a boot drive?
>>78823879No I mean what parts can you buy for 1500$?
>>78823896my 5600x and rtx 3070 build came out to around 1500
Can anyone rec a build for 2k total?
>have absolute everything for my new build including a 3080 except for the fucking Ryzen 5kSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>788239225900x + x570 + 6800xt
>>78823827Read OP>>78823722No go due to being worst of the new lineup>>78823713Find the thaiphoon readout for it>>78823675Must be an eyelet>>78823527I'm upgrading from a 2060 6GB at 1440p to a 3070. The 2060 will be fine for 60FPS in PS4 era games, but some will require significantly reduced settings and newer games will run poorly>>78823282https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/RzdbjX>>788232815600X is the gaming chip right now>>78823241Yeah, it comes with a better cooler
Spend several hours putting my RAM, CPU and cooler into the mobo>Put my mobo into case>The standoffs don't align correctly by 1mm and the I/O shield doesn't sit rightFUUUUUUUUUCKKCCKCK
>>78822027Imagine if the temperature around you dropped by 1 degree. You literally wouldn't even realise it without a thermomyter.
>new gpu has 6 pin + 8 pin connection>PSU cable is just 2 6+2'si've got an ugly little 2 hanging off the cable now, which isn't the biggest deal but it's just ugly enough to make me want to buy a custom psu cable for it. Any recommendations for decent cables that aren't overpriced?
>>78823646>>78823668Dual rank is a nearly meaningless improvement and chasing it will cost a ridiculous amount of money for invisible gains. 4 sticks can be up to 10% improvement in some applications regardless of single or dual rank. Your best price/performance ratio right now is going to be 4 sticks of 8GB DDR 3600MHz CL16. Once you install them go into bios and enable the profile, then play with stability until you're as close to 3800MHz (usually gonna be 3733) as you can get while keeping these timings: CL16-18-18-38-1. Keep the infinity fabric 1:1.
>>78823907You should have made it a 3600/3080 combo. The frames would have been much higher, and you would have had a great upgrade path in the future for your CPU.
>>78823923>have everything for my new build besides a gpu
Does this support displayport?https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B550%20Phantom%20Gaming%204/index.asp
Honestly I think I'd be happy with a 32 inch 1440p monitor. "pixel density" is a meme and nobody notices it. he extra size will be noticable and appreciated over a 24 inch 1080p screen, though.
>>78824064So just build the thing. Adding in a GPU afterwards is trivial.
>>78824070Probably not. Display port is for graphics cards.
>>78824073I upgraded from 24" 1080p to 32" 1440p. Same pixel density, just more screen real estate. It's great.
>>78823887The WD, you moron.
>>78824070Doesn't seem so.>>78824091APU
>>78824112the 860 is a top tier sata drive, the WD is a budget nvme.
>>78824141No, you would have gotten more frames.
>>78823403Is it still a problem with WD? Would buying a WD drive at this point have a chance of it being SMR?
>>78824150Just use the WD. it's faster.
>>78824205>1080pNow show the 1440+ benchmarks.
>>7882421959 frames bro 59 frames
>>78824064At least you can assembly 95% of the tower. I can't even toss my 3080 into my hilariously bottlenecked current tower for a laugh because the PSU doesn't have enough overhead
>>7882422859 frames at over 200fps. Completely meaningless. At a higher resolution, where the frames actually mean something, the gap is much narrower.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JWyJnLLooking for advice on my build. Is the power supply enough? Is the warning about the extra 12v connector thing an issue?
>>78824219Depends on the games you're playing, but PUBG needs the 5600X in my case, even using competitive settings>>78824205>3080>1080p>>78824094>32" 1440pDisgusting>>78824073Incorrect. Anyway 32" is way too big for competitive gaming>>78824337I would get a semi modular or modular PSU. Wattage is fine
>>788242053600 and 3080 is faster than 5600x and 3070. You can't disprove this.
>>78824442i literally just did ?
>>78824409>Anyway 32" is way too big for competitive gamingThe bigger your screen is, the more easily you can see your enemies.
>>78824449Where? The graph you posted that doesn't even mention a 3070? I can't believe you thought that posting a random graph would make you look more credible.
>>78824469i showed how a 3600 bottlenecks a 3080...
>>78824457Huh, so I guess a 48" would be the prime competitive monitorhttps://www.amazon.com/ASUS-PG259QN-DisplayPort-Ergonomic-Mountable/dp/B08GL5TJQTHonest question, do people stop you in the street and ask if you've lost your tard rangler?
>>78824496>rangler?Wrangler, god damnit
Anyone bought cards from evga's bstock?I understand it's covered for 1 year, but any personal accounts?
Shamelessly lifting this list off LI. Still debating between 5600XT, 5700, and 5700XT. I already have an OS and a SSD so I'm not worried about that. I know this case comes with its own fans. Will that be enough or should I buy more fans? Water cooling?What's a good monitor to go with this build? I'm still deciding whether or not to upgrade from 1080p/60fps to 1440p/60fps.
>>78824611Wow thanks, I was planning on buying a 6TB WD Red, guess I'll go with Red Pro? I am not really familiar with WD HDD's, my use case is p2p filesharing. Can't really go wrong as long as its not SMR right?
>>78824632Oh, the WD Red Plus line is CMR only, and cheaper than Red Pro, so guess I'll go with that.
>>78824621>Shamelessly lifting this list off LI.Probably trash then
>>78824621https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gsxXRTForgot the link lmao
What's the general opinion on Samsung Odyssey, and specifically LC27HG70QQUXEN ?Its roughly the same price as the 27GN850, both have supposedly freesync, dunno about IPS vs VA for work and casual gaming.
What's /pcbg/'s opinion on this prebuild? Only $1400 Canadian bucks, $1,070 USD! https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/14431177
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hw2HW3Wanting to upgrade most of my parts and looking for some advice. Unsure about the mobo and cooler in particular.
Would it be a dumb idea to buy this? https://www.microcenter.com/product/624824/powerspec-g163-gaming-computer
>>78824712They could easily be cutting corners in PSU, Motherboard, and proper SSDs. I would never recommend getting a prebuilt, you never truly know what's inside
>have a 3070 coming in Monday>voice in the back of my head nagging at me to just scalp it and try to get a 6800/xt this week or wait™ for a 3080I've kinda made this shit tough on myself by getting a 1440p ultrawide, the pixel count is closer to a standard 1440p than 4k but I'd also like it to last for several years and I'm just worried about the longevity of a 3070.
>>78824801How much did you pay for the 3070?
>upgrade to 32GB RAM>can have 50 chrome tabs open and not give a fuck while doing anything elseunironically worth it
>>78824813It's a gigabyte vision so about $630 after tax, could probably sell it for $800 easy since it's more niche and aesthetics fags with white builds will definitely want it.
>>788248013080 performs better with ultrawides
please purchase big needful sirs
Is it normal to be at 9+ gigs with just a few firefox windows and like, spotify and discord open?I've like 120 tabs open but doesn't FF unload tabs you're not using?
>>78824830Keep in mind if you do this on ebay they take 10%.
Which is the better GPU? The RX 580 or the RX 5500XT? I see they are priced pretty similarly these days. And no, I won't get a used GPU.
>>78824863Annoying fucking cunt, I hope computerbase.de is paying you for the endless shilling.
>>78824989please sirpleaseplease purchase big needful 14fps very smooth sirplease
>>78821440That case cannot be purchased standalone, it comes with a PSU, Board, and AIO
Is 300€ an honest price for a brand new 1070ti?
>>78821206So last week I got a 550 board and a 5600x, set everything up, fresh installed windows, and it was fine. Tested a dozen or so games, everything worked, the only anomaly was the board wouldn't post above 3000mhz ram. Played AC Valhalla for the night, ran fine, played all next day, it crashed, then crashed again, then two more times within a few hours. Then it crashed twice consecutively. Taking Discord and Firefox with it. Then it started bluescreening. Restoring stock ram clock didn't fix it, switching ram didn't fix it, fresh windows didn't fix it, and in fact would barely install half the time. And trying a different drive didn't fix it.I switched my 450 and 2600 back, reinstalled. And everything worked fine. I assumed it was a fucked board, and submitted for a return. Then Asrock released their 450 bios for 5000, so I updated my board, ran it for a night, no crashes. Next day I install the 5600x.Bluescreens upon booting Windows.Did I really get a fucking dead CPU on launch? Am I fucking dreaming?
>>78825100LMAO he actually fell for it and bought AMD
>>78825100Given all the troubleshooting you've done it certainly seems to be the case. I would have said it was the board, as they have higher failure rates, but seeing as you swapped that as well it's got to be the CPU. Try it again with the replacement B550 board and RMA that shit if the problems persist. Dead CPUs are rare, for sure, but that doesn't mean it never happens.
>>78825164Yea I'm gonna return both to be certain. There's always the chance that the board killed the CPU I reckon.
Where can I check the MSRP for non reference cards in Europe ? It's not on the manufacturer's website and I'm not getting anything in review articles.
>>78825076Which similar graphics card should I buy, though? I don't want to pay 400€ for an rtx 2070 considering that a 3060 should cost around 500€ when supply isn't a problem anymoreThe problem is that if I must wait 8 months or whatever, I still want to play something in the meantime, so getting a decent card at a fair price is something I would consider
RX 5700xt vs RTX 2060superWhich one should I get? The amd card is readily available and cheaper where I'm at. The 2060 super I heard is good but is scarce and a tad bit overpriced.
>>78825278The 2060s isn't worth it, get a 2070s for a little more and you're set for the next couple years. How much cheaper is the 5700xt?
>>78825278The 5700xt is better in every way and competes with the 2070s, no reason not to get that if it's cheaper too
>>78825291Cheaper relative to the 2070super, around 50-100usd.>>78825294I'm worried about driver issues. Have they been fixed?
>>78825310Definitely go for the 5700xt, it's around on par with the 2070s.
>>78825328> https://youtu.be/IK_Ue4d9CpE>>78825310HU did a comparison video to really show things off.
>>78825328Are the drivers functioning properly now?I'll go with the Sapphire cards if so.
>>78821897The ram, I have that kit and it can't reach 3600mhz/16-18-18-36. Buy its 3600mhz/cl16 version which supports those timings out of box.
>>78825340As far as I know, their drivers fucking up was an issue earlier this year.
So, dudes, I'm upgrading my old ass PC from a P8H61-MX R2.0 motherboard to a B450M.>I will lose my Win7 license, because I can't get the digital one by getting the free update to Win10 since this specific P8H61 doesn't support it>will have to delete the old MB's drivers prior to installing>just in case update new MB's BIOS prior to installing (but it most likely comes with it already updated)Have I missed something? I'll see how to deal with the unlicensed Win7 if I get to work normally.
Is a dual core still acceptable for a pc nowadays?
>>78825469Not for over a decade no.
>>78825477So ryzen 3100 is the most acceptable "low-tier" cpu now?
>>78824712>rtx 20 series in 2020retard
>>78821206FUCK THIS RTX LINE>>78822617RTX 3070 is $800 in my country (Philippines) and I thought I got it bad and msrp is $500Im eyeing 3060 Ti, but fuck this I dont want getting jewed, cards were half the price before RTX was introduced
>>78825504I'd say so, and even then you'd be better off buying a 2600.
>>78824150The WD is faster than what SATA can do even when the cache is exhausted. It's just a Black with 4 channels instead of 8, it's a fucking beast of a drive regardless.
>>788255342600 used? All right.
>>78825461You can download and install and use Windows 10 for free without a key, it will even have updates. The only thing that happens is that it adds a watermark to the desktop, but that's all it does. You can just buy a key later to remove the watermark. Keys can be bought cheaply all over the place.
>>78825563Definitely.Game performance is about the same between the two, with the 3100 coming slightly ahead by a very small percentage. But having 6 cores will give you flexibility.
>EVGA BR 500W>SeaSonic S12III 550W>BeQuiet! System Power 9 500W>Corsair CV550WHelp me decide on one of these /pcbg/, It took me days to narrow it down to these 4, which are probably the best I can get over here that fit in my budget. I'm kinda leaning towards the beQuiet but they all seem pretty good, to me at least.
>>78825575I see thanks anon. I'm about to build my first pc and I'm looking at cpu first since it's the most crucial part as it will dictate the mobo too.
>>78825582I've been running a 2600 for almost three years now. It's a tank of a CPU, will handle 60fps in the vast majority of games unless they're terribly optimized. You'll be happy with it.And 450 boards are going cheap for it.
What's a good alternative to the Noctua NH-D15? Cooling a R9-5900X here.
>>788252785700XT is better but don't buy it. Wait for Rtx3060
>>78825599DRP4 or Fuma 2
>>78825564Oh. That makes things easier, but>buying keysWe both know what's easier.
>>78825599Dark Rock Pro 4, though it does look like a giant brick.
Is Fuma 2 overkill for 5600x?
What's the best most reliable M2 SSD? for OS use and installing mostly games.
>>78825753WD Blue SN550 is pretty much the default choice at the moment
>>78824755specs are ok for the price, but the closed front will definitely increase temps inside the case.
>>78824753CPU cooler is completely overkill, that thing is designed for high-end Intel and shit like the 5900X. mobo is fine but you could get slightly cheaper ones with basically the same functionality though you'd probably get realtek lan instead of intel.
>>78825753SX8200 Pro>>78825686>mfw Fuma 2 + 5600x
>>78824494A 3600 with a 3080 gets more frames than a 5600x with a 3070.
>>78825599In Australia, the Deepcool assassin 3 is equal performance for $40 less.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9yLh7XHow are we looking? Motherboards have to be Gigabyte X570 AORUS for iommu grouping. Power supply might change depending on if I get a second GPU if I can't figure out passthrough with just one.
Im getting the add to cart option for the 5600x but its not actually adding it, wtf??
Is this worth 740 euros? CPU: Intel Core i5-10400f up to 4.30 GHz 10th GenRAM: 16GB DDR4 GSkill Aegis 3000mhzSSD: 120GBMaticna: Gigabyte B460M DS3HNapajanje: Argus 620WKuciste: MS Prism RGBGPU: Inno3D GTX1660 OC X2 6GB GDDR5
>>78821812As a materials scientist: Temperature cycling can induce cyclical loading on a material due to thermal expansion. However in your case the observed stress/strain fluctuations will be so small that no material fatigue is to be expected. Basically you could probably let it run for months and other things would fail sooner.
1080ti okay for 144hz 1440p gaming in 2020? Do I just save up for a 3070. I really don't want to sacrifice ressolution and refresh rate for a cheaper card but am on a budget currently
>>78825831I believe you also pay 10% of the shipping cost, which was added after sellers charged people exorbitant prices for shipping and then used a cheap option while pocketing the rest as profit.
>>78825953It's enough if you're playing online games mostly.
Should I return my 700watt 80+ white PSU and get a 650 watt in at least bronze 80+? Worried about frying my parts with my current thermaltake, even though the psu got good reviews.
>>78825958Wait, are you saying ebay will pay for most of the shipping if I sell though them?
How can I secure a 6900xt in Australia without paying scalpers prices? Also is 5xxx a paper launch or some shut because no one has stock of the 5800
>>78825953Yes you can play tetris at 1440p 144hz no need to upgrade.
>>78825922That 16gb is it an 8x2 kit?
>>78826042>buying the 5800X housefire
>>78824883They are almost identical, so unless you find a very cheap 5500xt there's no reason to get it.
>>78825922those parts are 400-500€ second hand.
>>78826046which one in particular? trying to weight up what other anons recommended.
>5700xt price still hasn't dropped
>>78826120> Cheaper than 2070s> Tanks 1080p Ultra gamesWhy would it?
>>78826120No card has dropped, if anything I'm positive 2060S and 2070S prices increased in Europe.I just checked, 2070S is on shortage and it's averaging 650€.2060 Super ON SALE is 390€, otherwise 500€.
>>78826164Oh, btw 390€ for the 6gb model.
>>78826060I'll ask. >>78826015Što si ljut, broto? >>78826101Can't really find them second hand here. How about this one for 820 euros?CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X up to 4,20GHZ + (brzi od Ryzen 5 2600)RAM: 16GB DDR4 Team Elite 3000mhzSSD: 120GBMaticna: Gigabyte B450M S2HNapajanje: Argus 720WKuciste: MS Aquarius RGBGPU: MSI VENTUS XS OC RTX2060 6GB GDDR6
Got a budget of roughly 650 eurocoins to make a pc, I just need some advice for the mobo, here's the parts I got so far that allow me to stay JUST ABOUT within the budget given to me>ryzen 5 2600x>650w >gtx 1650 4gb>bx500 ssd for OS>seagate 2tb for storage>2 corsair sticks of 8gb ram @3000mhz
>>78826174https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-S2H-rev-10/support#support-cpuStorage is very, very little, psu is cheap, it's a base 2060 so overall it's fairly overpriced.If I were to guess, that's an overpriced prebuilt he bought for a retarded premium and expects to make a lot of his money back.
Any cooler that can seriously beat a Thermalright ultra 120 extreme for a 8600k? My case won't fit any aio bigger than 240mm.https://www.reddit.com/r/Noctua/comments/f82l1l/upgraded_from_a_13_year_old_thermalright_ultra/Doesn't really seem worth it if above is true.
>>78826108970 Evo. Reliable, fast, and has warranty.
>>78826174I live in a country with 5 million people and can find everything in that second hand, look more. There is 0 reason in buying old parts brand new unless u actually wanna get ripped off
>>78821992Wait what's wrong with meshify? I thought it was /g/ approved. Wanted to buy that case for my first ever build. What would you recommend instead?
>>78826317There's nothing wrong with it, it's a great sized case with good cable management and a nice aesthetic.Some people just don't like the geometric look, so they're super autistic about it and call it shit.
>>78826265liquid freezer 240it also beats most of the rgb 150 usd coolers btw
>>78826317It comes with one fan. The lancool 2 mesh performance is similarly priced and comes with 3 fans.
>>78826363>using stock fans that come with the caseDo poorfags really?
Am I retarded for wanting to get an Nvidia GPU instead of an AMD one purely because of better backwards compatability with DX9/OpenGL etcInb4 >just dont play old games
>>78826375A shit fan will do 90% as effective as a good fan when it comes to basic intake and exhaust.
>>78825785Ok cheers. Do you have any recommendations for lower end coolers that preferably aren't too noisy?
>>78826389>backwards compatabilitywhat the fuck am I reading
>>78826434Better support for older software, don't be a retard.
>>78821206which AIBs will be best? Sapphire and Asrock looking good
what software do i use to detect PC parts i have?can't remember exact specs when i bought it, and i don't want to dismantle it
>>78824058>chasing it will cost a ridiculous amount of money for invisible gains2x16 GB is pretty much mostly dual rank which is the same as 4x8 single rank
>>78826006If you sell on ebay, you choose to either A) have the buyer pay shipping, which depending on the service can either be calculated by distance or with static flat rate boxes you purchase, or B) you pay for the shipping
>>78826542i crashes on launch for me...
>>78826502Sapphire is usually the best for AMD
Will 2600x and 6800 bottleneck? I have a 1440p 144hz monitor and the GTX1070 isn't enough anymore.
>>78826617depending on game, not as much as for 1080p though, where the CPU is a choker
>>78826617>2600x> 1440pNope, you're good, 2600 will hit 100fps in the vast majority of games, and then start struggling depending on the title.
>>78826512>>78826542hwinfo is what everyone uses this days
What video card do I go for /g/? A 3080 or a 6800xt? Everything else is in hand, I've put my useless old 970 into this new build to tide me over until I get a new card
>>78826670they're basically the same carddo you want RT? if yes then 3080if no get the 6800XT
>>78826660>>78826685Look mom, I posted the meme parentheses again. I sure showed him
>>78826690Fair, I'll probably just grab whichever I can bearing in mind the shortages
>>78826652it want's me to close monitoring tools and check antivirus/malware filtersi don't have any antivirus expect windows defender, and i don't have any monitoring tools either
I'm a boomer.1080 60Hz or 1440 144Hz?
>>78826807using speccy doesn't make you cool anon
>>78826829Depends, are you gaming
>>78826846Yuck, worst of both worlds.>>78826847Hell yeah. I love Age of Empires, Runescape, and I'm excited for new Demon Souls.
>>78826839>Ov vey, use the hwinfo spyware you fucking bigot or you'll never be cool *rubs hands together*
>>78826876Speccy is spyware that has shit accuracy
>>78826898Well 144Hz is obviously better, but out of the two I'd rather have 1440p 60Hz.
>>78826918If I had a bigger budget I'd go 1440p, 144htz.But I'm sticking with the 2070s for another generation or two.
>>78826914>The hwinfo jew cries out as he strikes at you.
imagine using speccy in 2020
Im going to kill someone (preferably myself) if i dont get a 5600x or even a 5800x soon
>>78826952The eternally seething mutt. Imagine having kikes of all people live rent free in your head. Why don't you do something about it and go shoot up some shit instead of reeeing in a tibetan pingpong forum
> Order cheapo M.2 drive > Good NVME drive with twice the capacity goes on sale for the same price
Looking for a case for a future ITX board build, Requirements- No sandwich design- Tempered glass- Large GPU allowance, (AIB RX 6800 XT)- Allow for cooling expansion into a 240 AIO (top mount preferably)Currently NZXT H210i is closest to what I am chasing except that the GPU clearance over PSU shroud is too limiting for today's thicker cards, otherwise it would be perfect.
>>78826954I actually use CPU-Z, I just recommend Speccy to the type of people that don't even know what hardware they have nor software they need to check. Temperature monitoring and any other in depth bullshit is wasted on them and Speccy has the best layout for quickly determining specs without them getting confused. >>78826996>Oy vey, why are you letting me live rent free in your head when you should either ignore our existence and influence completely or commit terrorist acts that would only further our cause and gain us sympathy?
>>78827057Keep at it bro, I'm sure the illegitimate state of Israel crumbles every time a slur is hurled against them. You sure are doing everyone a service
>>78827034Corsair 4000d, Meshify C.
>>78827231Oh wait itx.Fuck it I don't care.
>>78827163I didn't use a slur, retard, I used triple parentheses which somehow triggered you to the point where you're melting down about it and I find the thing hilarious so I'm laying into it. In before:>I'm totally not seething right now, bro, and I'm totally not Jewish because I used the word kike in my attempt to get you to stop outing me.
>>78826660>>78826685>>78826807>>78826876>>78826952>>78827057>hwinfo is jewish as fuck>recommends speccy, the even more jewish counterpart with a "pro" version
>>78827248Nah, It's a slow day and polroaches are an endless source of (you)s kek
>>78827057>Speccy to the type of people that don't even know what hardware they have nor software they need to checkso retards>not even recommending hwmonitor
What is the maximum one should pay for the Ryzen 7 5800X? A local store has it for 555€ and the urge to consoom is strong, but this price has some heavy rubbing of conspiring hands attached to it because I know for sure that the price of this CPU (100-100000063WOF) should be 390€ excluding taxes and here we have 22% or so, therefore the price should be 480€ tops.
>>78827263Piriform is openly jewish, hwinfo is a rip off existing software that relies on an army of shills, donations, and compromised security to turn a profit. Hopefully you're getting paid for this shilling and you don't unironically do it for free. >>78827266My (you) count in this thread is much greater than yours and you just showed (((your))) hand by admitting to false flagging /pol/tards.
Corsair Carbide Series 275R or Phanteks Eclipse P300? They are both exactly the same price, so is one in any way better than the other?
does running games at 120fps on a 60hz monitor do anything? when I set an fps cap at 120 I get 120hz but don't see any tearing
All I want is the 3300x with a B550 :(
I feel that my 2600 and Vega 56 are aging pretty fast atm so I would like to sell for some sweet shekels and upgrade now around blackfriday before the usedmarked catches up to this developement and prices drop. Sadly hardware prices (and stocks) are very (!) wacky where I live, so these are my current options: i5-10600K at $250, R7 3700X at $300, the i7-10700KF at $380 or the new 5600X at $360 (if it were in stock). Note that I'm going to upgrade my mobo regardless of choice since I'm still on a first gen B350m and would like some more modern features, also a lot of nice B450 AMD or Z490 Intel boards are on sale right now.Just looking to do some comfy high/ultra settings 1080p 144hz gaming for the next 3 years. Any ideas my fellow fa/g/s?