THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF INCELNew consumer lineup:>release in fucking 2020>will STILL be at 14nm++++++++++++ when AMD will have Zen 3 in 7nm+ by then>just 10 cores when AMD will have had 16 for months>125W TDP - we know Intel's TDP numbers are full of shit so it's realistically a 175W TDP with 250W+ peak power draw -> gonna be a Pentium 4-level HOUSEFIRE again>new socket again ofc - a socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear!New HEDT lineup:>18 piece of shit vulnerable Meltdown + Spectre cores>meanwhile based Mama Su will have given us 32 fast & secure Thirdreicher cores already>14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++ & KNUCKLES>overclocked to death Skylake cores -> HOUSEFIRE!lmao, just L M A O
still the best choice for gaming which is the only demanding tasks the average consumer actually does
>>71844343if they stopped burning their plants to the ground maybe they could reach 10nm++++++++
>>71844355>starts streaming on his puny 6 Skylake refresh refresh refresh refresh cores>fps drops to half
>>71844355PS5 and the next Xbox will have 8 Zen cores fyiexpect more and more multithreading-optimized games
>>71844370Currrent i5s can more than handle several workloads you fucking AMDrone. Besides next gen intel will have HT enabled on all chips and will utterly BTFO AMD at both price AND performance.
>>718444280.02 Rupees have been deposited into your account
>>71844428I'm sorry to break it to you, but CS:GO on low and a browser in the background don't count as serious workloads, anon.
Can't wait for Intlel's funeral.
>>71844343₹0.02 has been deposited into your account.
>>71844400>PS5 and the next Xbox will have 8 Zen cores fyiAnd run games at 30 FPS like usual, thanks to AMD inside and its poor gaming performance
>>71844511Threadripper: 64c/128tEPYC: 64c/128tunaffected by most CPU bugsit's over for Intel
*ahem*>Multi-core doesn't matter!>Productivity doesn't matter!>Price/performance doesn't matter!>Performance per watt doesn't matter!>Power usage doesn't matter!>Temperatures don't matter!>Soldered dies don't matter!>Stutters don't matter!>Streaming doesn't matter!>Data centers don't matter!>Locked CPUs don't matter!>OEMs don't matter!>Hyperscalers don't matter!>Upgradeability doesn't matter!>Anti-competitive business practices don't matter!>Locked platform features don't matter!>Synthetic loads don't matter!>PCI-e lanes don't matter!>Burnt pins don't matter!>Heat doesn't matter!>1771w cooler doesn't matter!>Server space doesn't matter!>ECC support doesn't matter!>Free RAID doesn't matter!>NVMe RAID doesn't matter!>StoreMI doesn't matter!>IPC doesn't matter!>7nm doesn't matter!>StoreMI doesn't matter!>HEDT doesn't matter!>Stock coolers don't matter!>Security doesn't matter!>Games don't always matter!>Enterprise doesn't matter!>Hyperthreading doesn't matter!>VMware doesn't matter!>MySQL doesn't matter!>Unix doesn't matter!>Linux doesn't matter!>Wafer yields don't matter!>Benchmarks after full patches don't matter!>Asian markets don't matter!>Own fabrics doens't matter!>Chipset lithography doesn't matter!>Cray doesn't matter!>Cisco doesn't matter!>HPE doesn't matter!>AZURE doesn't matter!>5nm doesn't matter!>TDP doens't matter!>10nm doesn't always matter!>Cache doesn't matter!>Integrated graphics doesn't matter!>PCIE 4.0 doesn't matter!>Germany doesn't matter!>Processors doesn't matter!>Custom Foundry Business doesn't matter!>Stock voltage doesn't matter!>Framerate doesn't matter!>Amazon sales don't matter!>Prime95 AVX doesn't matter!>Large corporations don't matter!>Your DATA doesn't matter!>Context switch duration doesn't matter!>*NEW* 202x market outlooks don't matter!>*NEW* VRM doesn't matter!>*NEW* Single core performance doesn't always matter!>*NEW* Desktops don't matter
>>71844550ok so the Nvidia-based Switch surely runs games at 4k/60fps? no? could it be that consoles don't value high fps?
>>71844587Switch is a portable console
>>71844587>comparing xbox one and ps5 to a handheld child's toynice cope, retard.
>>71844343Can't wait for this corrupt piece of shit company to sink into irrelevancy.
>>71844581based doesn't matter poster
>>71844601This.Only literal manchildren use a Switch in public
>>71844595>>71844601Even a weak portable console could push 144 fps if it gimped the graphics enough but it doesn't, because fps don't matter as much to console players.But of course brainlet Incel cucks like you two don't get this.
>>71844636Keep it up, fag.Just embarrassing yourself at this point.
>>71844343Mitigating CPU flaws is anti-semitic! Now be a good boy and disable those pesky security mitigations, will you?See, your Intel® i7™ CPU is still the fastest!
>>71844660the go-to response when you don't have an argumentsasuga
>>71844601The other two are child's toys as well, retard
Intelholders for the love that is all holy please short your stock. Buy back when they're at the bottom.
>benchmarks arent important>just this number representing a very short distance that i know has something to do with processors but otherwise don't understand at all>lower is better
>>71845202benchmarks are anti-semitic
>>71845052>switch hitterlol cope, fag.
The 9900KyS will get 2 FPS more in $GAME, so Intel is still superior.Suck my dick, AMDrones!
>>71844706Delid and dilate*
>>71844581>core and inter-core latency doesn't matter
>>71844355Amd I'm sure the "average consumer" has a $1200 GPU and high refresh rate GAYMAN monitor too, right retard?
>>71845642The average consumer doesn't buy AMD, he buys pre-built that comes with Intcel + Nvidia.Prove me wrong
>>71844343>LGA1200So why DOES Intel change not only the chipset, which I can understand for platform feature improvements, but the socket itself EVERY generation? It has to cost them and mobo vendors extra money to redesign it each time and I'm sure corporate clients are pissed at the lack of upgrade support compared with AMD's offerings.Does constantly adding MOAR pins = less power or something?
>>7184551810/10, I'm stealing this one
>>71845910>I'm sure corporate clients are pissed at the lack of upgrade support compared with AMD's offerings.Most corporate clients don't even touch the CPU or upgrade anything for that matterThey just buy Dells or HPs leave them be until they breakUpgradeability doesn't mean jackshit and intel knows thisThe only people who benefit from not having to switch sockets are PC enthusiasts and maybe small businesses who have small fleets and Intel is big enough to not care about either
>>71844355>0.00000000000000001 fps more for a 500$ cpu compared to a 300$ cpu>still the bestlul
>>71845910it's right there in the OP:>new socket again ofc - a socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear!the only reason is more money for InTelAviv
>>71844343>release in fucking 2020the original """leak""" didnt even had a release date
>>71844355back to your containment board, /v/irgin
>>71844343Reminder that CopeIt lake desktop is still Skylake arch not Sunny cove like on mobile.
>>71846272even if it released tomorrow it would be pathetic
>>71845480as an AMD fan i'm literally BTFO, finished and bankrupt
>>71844355Back to /v/
>>71845910"a socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear "
>>71844400Consoles are already running on 8 core CPUs
Intel is probably gonna recover and take over AMD at the end, they have much more money and 10x more employees to call on. >>71844466I don't think mine ever reached more than 80C, i haven't really paid attention. If you use a stress tester and wonder why the temperature is high then, i don't know what to tell you. Hate Intel, but at the end of the day, people who bought an expensive Intel CPU did it because they could afford it which means they are more successful in life than AMDrones who try to find the best performance for price. But even if you use logic, Intel still makes the most powerful CPUs in the world (9980xe), and has the best single core performance which is what truly matters, whilst AMD keeps slapping on more cores to compensate for how weak they are on an individual basis. And AMD's 7nm is not really 7nm because they use TSMC's 7nm manufacturing. Apple also used to boast about having the first 7nm phone in their marketing. But even if intel is "more expensive" and everything, The 9900k is $500 (the same as the 3900x), and much more powerful. How often do you buy a CPU? Once every 6-7 Years? Because it's high end. Just saying, AMD always had a history of performing better in the benchmarks but worse in reality. >>71844358Don't read tech articles. Also, reminder that Moore's law died (basically) so we're gonna glue CPUs together to get better performance or something, same reason Intel is about to launch 14nm++++++++.
>>71846827>wall of intel shill text >Don't read tech articlesAre you ok, retard?
They're getting close but intel still has the single core advantage. There is no point 3900X and 3800X considering the 9900K is at the same price point as the former.>>71846863Not an argument.
>unironically using geekbenchkek, I guess Apple CPUs are the absolute best huh?
PS5 and Xbox Scarlett will be using Zen 2 8c/16t CPUs. They will be optimized for that type of hardware. IMO, if you're smart, you'll get an 8c/16t CPU now. Even a Ryzen 7 1700 would be useful
>>71846827>>71847131https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-3700x-3900x-linux&num=1fuck off intel defense force. >>71847154
>>71847160Not even the main factor since games are quite literally using using your 6cores and 12 threads RIGHT NOW, getting at least an 8 core is a much smarter buy even if all you do is gayme. I did that mistake with the 3570k thinking it was enough, but my needs soon changed even considering the 5820k at one point.
>>71847131>pre-release AGESA graphs>unironically
>>71846827>if you buy overpriced trash it means you're successful in lifeok Shlomo
>>71844343>>will STILL be at 14nm++++++++++++ when AMD will have Zen 3 in 7nm+ by thenand STILL it will have better single thread performance than poozen
>>71844343The fact that they're sticking with monolithic designs is impressive. Any talk about whether the new shit will be immune to the various security holes?
>>71847421Yes, I need those 4 fps more in CounterStrike 1.6 provided by Intel's 14nm++ cores to be a pro gamer! Thank You Intel, You are my Greatest Ally!
>>71847438>The fact that they're sticking with monolithic designs is impressiveYeah, I'm sure they will figure out glue vertically eventually. Remember when the Intel defense squad claimed Intel had a hidden architecture in case Zen was good? 3 years and we're still waiting for it.
>>71847501>in case Zen was goodThat's the key part.
>>71847525Anon, don't you get tired of posting fps graphs? The same guy literally has the 3900x matching and even beating Intel on some games as well. How do you this entertaining?
>3900X gets 50 more fps over 9900kNice gaming CPU kek
>>71847560look at the blue bar mate
>>71847548Oy vey goy stop being antisemitic and buy intel ok?
Oh yeah here we have intel's best gaming CPU /g/oyim
>>71847455so you admit amds super high tech 7nm is a joke that is slower that Intels 14nm++++++++++++++++, nice
THE best gaming CPU in the world LOL
tHe bEst gaMinG CpU LoL
>my fps graphs>NO MY FPS graphsJesus fucking Christ you people are insufferable.
And here we can see 9900k being the best gaming CPU
>>71847593>stutterfest>>71847614>with occasional micro-stuttering (0.1% Low of 17.1 FPS)Did you think that those were good for Poozen?
Buy Intel sirs it best cpu gameng yes
Best gaming CPU yes??????
Look at all that best gaming
>>71847679>2700x == 3700xThe fuck is wrong with this game?
Obviously the best for gaming+streaming right??????
Obviously very efficient too
Thanks Intel for keeping me warm...during summer
>>71847689The mentally ill intel fanboy doesn't know hardwareunboxed will redo the test because he said he fucked up
Single core doesn't matter............
IPC doesn't matter
>>71844343>28c/255Wmore like 400w nuclear reactor
High End doesn't matter
Multicore doesn't matter
>>71844343Intel knows they're screwed. They'll concentrate on server and mobile now.
Browsers don't matter
Raytracing doesn't matter
>>71844343Yeah because AMDick are not fucking housefires at 7nm
Rendering doesn't matter
>>71847634>>71847634>>71847634>>71847634>>71847634/g/ has been an fps graphs board forever.
Handbrake doesn't matter
>>71844355>still the best choice for gaming which is the only demanding tasks the average consumer actually doesall the kids stream now while playing vidya
One day Intel, one day...
One day you will be at the top, Intel
>>71847826>9900k cooler than a 8700kYes, this data is completely true and not easily debunked.
>>71846602>>71846275>>71847524Why the fuck are you here then? Why else would you need a top tier cpu? Do you own a render farm? Fuck off.
Excellent efficiency as always
Very good value tooIntel shill is so buttmad he's just dumping them without saying anything like a bot lmoa
Anons holy fucking shit I really hope you guys are getting paid for this.
The intel shill is broken kek
Broken shill can't talk anymore
Why so broken shill?
>my procesor is better in cinebench and passmark!Yeah, congrats dude
>>71847914The intel shill is broken he can't even talk anymore
>>71847914The guy posting AMD charts is actually paying to post here.
Hey broken shill can you talk?
>>71847973Why do you keep posting these? We already know Ryzen is good at unzipping files, intel are saying they're better at gaming.
Broken shill can't even talk wew
He can't even talk anymore...
>>71847991Intel is shit at everything, deal with ithttps://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-review/
>>71847991b-but we have more frames at 720p!
>>71845910i am still on 1366 intel is shit, if you want to upgrade cpu down the line and keep the board
>>71844355This actually. Everyone here larping as streamer or dev should neck himself.
>>71847600indeed, Ryzen 3000 benches 2 fps lower in some 90s-era shooter at 1280x720 so it's absolute trash
>>71848073Ryzen loses in literally every single gaming benchmark and it's not even close.
>>71847948Never have i see just dedication for a tryhard lmao.enjoy your shitty intel cpu.
>>71847501"Intel has super amazing CPUs up their sleeve, they're just waiting for the right moment to release them!" they saidwell, where are they now?
>>71848089Did you run out of Winzip benchmarks bro?
>>71848088Intel is shit in every single test possible.
>>71848131Bro post some more winzip benchmarks.
>>71848043And more stutters, thanks Intel for the great stutters and CPU diseases
>>71847131Clock that shit to the same frequency with no turbo and you will get real numbers ... or just google that shit ... cause some people already did all the work ... and AMD wins in single thread at same frequency :D
>>71848050>intel is shitNOOO GOY
>>71848159Yeah I'm pretty sure Intel wins that one
>>71848105In the grave soon I hope, together with all the Intel shills.
>>71844355does anyone bother benchmarking browser (youtube+gmail+reddit) + gaming? because that's probably the real average consumer.
>>71848169No anon you will upset the Intel fanboy monkeys.
In the meantime ....AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12x 3.80GHzBestellt | wird am 19.7.2019 erwartet über 1.030 verkauftBeobachter: 15210summary ... store sold out ... 1030+ CPUs sold in less than a week ... 15k people watching .... new shipment to arrive on the 19th
>>71848246what game is this?
>>71848238Don't be silly goy and shut up......
>>71848270The game of growing up, don't think you've heard of it.
>>71847768>chart goes from 95 to 135nice trick
>>71848299Lmao nice catch, retarded shills just can't stop being retarded.
>>71844355when will amdfags admit this and stop larping that they're doing fluid simulations on their home pc everybody who does real computational workloads like that does it on a cluster and almost nobody needs these multi core cpus except video editors or 3d modelers which very few people do
>>71846092>The only people who benefit from not having to switch sockets are PC enthusiastseven they don't care, at least I don't. I've currently got a AM4 board with a Ryzen 1600X. Sure, the new ones are a bit faster but not that much faster. I had the A8-7600 before this once. Upgrading to the 1600X gave something like 2X. Upgrading to the 3600 would be .. 10%? faster. Just a guess. Even if it's 20%, it's not 2X. In 20 years I've never actually swapped a CPU once I've built a system. I've always bought new motherboad/CPU/RAM after 5-6 years. And things like PCIe and USB and even RAM speeds/standards have always changed by the time I upgrade, it's not like running a Ryzen 3600 with DDR3 and an old board would perform well even if the socket was compatible.
>>71848320>intel>stutters + shit productivity + shit efficiencyTell me one realistic reason to get Intel.
>>71846827>much more powerfulNot "much" and only in games.You don't fucking buy a 3900x for gaming you man child.
>>71848299actually surprised it's not from 105besides that it's a standard trick to pump the graph
>>71848320>very few peopleyou'd be suprised at how many people make videos or photo editing nowadays
>>71848336Better USB3 (although X570 fixed that anyway)
>>71844355And yet, all consoles are AMD. Intel gets good frames if you have absolutely nothing else running. Have a couple monitors going with shit working in the background and Intel starts to shit it's pants.
>>71848428Ok I guess I'll buy AMD so I can unzip files while I game
>>71848320640K of ram ought to be enough for anybody!
>>71848105Oh yeah remember the INTEL SEKRIT SAUCE architecture? lol
>>71848428they are going with AMD because AMD actually offers real semi-custom solutions while Intel only gives you the same chips just with slighty different specs. This is the reason why so many companies like to work with AMD and it won't surprise me if you see AMD CPU's in the next Macs too.
>>71847826That 9900k stock cooler must be really good
>>71848320What are you doing on here, /v/irgin?I run many VMs, edit and encode videos etcThanks for being so retarded, it's thanks to people like you that making money is so easy once you found the right kind of idiots.
>>71848512Intel has a new micro-architecture actually, they just can't release it cause it was made for 10nm (never ever edition) and they won't backport it to their 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>71848525They are going with AMD because it's cheap.
Guys I want to run Winzip while playing CS:GO, what AMD cpu should I get?
>>71848533noctua u12s used for all cpusstill weird numberseither a golden low temp 9900k or with a delid and repaste
>being a "fan" of a fucking hardware manufacturerWhat is wrong with you people?
>>71848558>>71848574Why did you stop posting Winzip benchmarks? As a professional Winzip user, I found it fascinating and would like to see more.
>>71848603Intel bois are naturally drawn to tribal mentality. This originally comes from the tribes of israel.Meanwhile AMD bois are bugmen, and behave more as a hive.
>>71844428you have to disable them though, so you really don't have HT. just a incel marketing gimmick. meanwhile AMD has true HT.
>>71848599He should preorder the 3999FUBAR intel edition64c/128t should be the minimum he will need for that
>>71848642Could you post some Winzip benchmarks to support your claims? I believe you but it would be nice to see some Winzip benchmarks to put some numbers on those claims.
>4c/4t i7-2600K corelets ITT trying to be funi>"haha guise with amd i can run winzip while gayming xd"COPE harder you chucklefucks lmao
>>71848690Why did you stop posting Winzip benchmarks?
>>71848603Intel is my greatest ally, there's nothing wrong with that!
>>71848614Thanks for the (You) but you replied to 2 different people.
>>71844355AMD still seething that their disastrous launch didn't beat intel in gaming and they can't even OC or reach close to 5ghz. literally "performance doesn't matter" "I'm a professional 7zipper" cuck cope.
>>71847774Thank you. ₹0.02 has been deposited to your account.
>>71848718I just ran winzip and I scored 10.2, is that good?
>>71844581Zen 2 edition:reliable boost clocks don't matter!5ghz doesn't matter!latency doesn't matter!beating intel in gaming doesn't matter!overclocking doesn't matter!binning doesn't matter!BIOS updates don't matter!chipset TDP doesn't matter!fan noise doesn't matter!NAVI edition:coolers don't matter!heat doesn't matter!voltage doesn't matter!dents don't matter!finewine(tm) doesn't matter!
Don't worry intelbros zen2 is so bad that people will buy more intel now...right? Wait...https://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/computers/430177031https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/bestsellers/computers/4913338051https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Processors/zgbs/computers/430515031https://www.amazon.ca/Best-Sellers-Electronics-CPU-Processors/zgbs/electronics/1233052011https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/electronics/229189
>>71848765Like 90% of PC sales are laptops.
>>71848764>he now resorts to GPUsNiceHow's floptane doing?
>>71848726>disastrous launchsure, if that helps you sleep at night...the 3900X is sold out pretty much everywhere but sure, keep telling yourself that
>>71848778Intel macacos are schizophrenic, they live in their own world.
>Upgrading 1600x to the 3600 would be .. 10%? faster. Just a guess44% better single core, and 52% better multicore, with 30w lower TDP. That's even more than a significant upgrade, and 3600 is the slowest of the Zen 2 lineup.>In 20 years I've never actually swapped a CPU once I've built a systemit's your mistake if you don't throw in 3700x or 3800x or even something stronger (depending on your mobo) after 3-5 years. You can more than double the CPU performance
>>71848778Where can I get a Ryzen laptop, bro?
>>71848778T-THAT'S A LIE! INTEL IS STILL THE BEST! ;~;
>>7184877310% of pc sales are laptops.
>>71844343Let's face it, AMD is and always has been for poorfags. I can afford a 9900K because I work at McDonald's and took out a loan!
The absolute state of Intel. Muh diversity....
>>71844343Why is intel even including a GPU on die anymore when they could fit in 4 more cores into the same area
>>71844343still beats AMD at 720p gamingeat shit, AMD fags
>>71844355This.Intel is the choice of average consumers.AMD is the choice of enthusiasts and professionals.
>>71848860As a professional Winzip enthusiast, I couldn't agree more
>>71844587It can do 720p60 or 1080p30 I think
>>71848778AMD is literally worthless at the high end. everything above the 3600 is a shit value unless you're a winrar enthusiast or deluded "artist" aka "my channel will take off one day, you'll see!". imagine buying a $500 CPU to shitpost on 4chan that can't even beat a $330 CPU in gaming. AMD is a gear option for people who can't afford an i7, I'll give em that. but they released a large product line where the majority of their skews are totally pointless unless mr shekelberg at creators inc. pays for your build.
>>71848872Look mom! I posted it again!
>>71848860>professional larpers who get paid by how many archives they compress.
>>71848878>all you can do on a PC is gaymesI want /v/ to leave
>>71848878If you run literally anything, be it a browser, OBS, Discord, etc. at the same time as your games, then Ryzen 3000 is going to outperform Intel.The only scenario where Intel wins is if you treat your computer like a game console, and shut down all other applications other than the game while you're playing.
>>71848662>>71848446>>71848700>>71848872>>71848907The intel fanboy is broken, too much stuttering is damaging their brain.
>>71848975Taking a break from running Winzip and cinebench, bro?
>>71848878Intel is literally worthless in general.
>>71848955holy horseshit. post any bench showing that AMD beats intel all-out in gaming when you have discord open.
>>71848320>nobody needs theseIt's not called the Bill of Needs, commie.SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>71848989They still have the best NICs
>>71848989buying $500 CPUs only useful for professional artists so you can shitpost is worthless. might as well get a 3600, and admit you have a poorfag build.
>>71847353The true sign of status circa current year is owning products not because of their monetary value, but because of their intrinsic value.
Drinking delicious intard tears
>>71848986This gotta be bait, nobody can be that retarded.But to respond to that bait, yes, multithreaded compression is indeed fun when you're doing backups regularly :3(You are doing backups anon, right?)
>>71848860It's actually the exact opposite. Professionals at least in the creative markets that utilize higher end hardware are slow to adapt and trust what has been "proven". I've tried to convince many not to go the Intel route but they trust what they've used in the past. You still have the iMac and Mac Pro using Xeons for example as well.
>>71844550>And run games at 30 FPS like usual, thanks to AMD inside and its poor gaming performanceWrong. Most game devs are just retarded and prioritize adding more graphic effects over 60 FPS. No matter how much horsepower you would add, the result would be the same.
>>71849037Stutter in my skiiiiiinThe diiiiips they will not heaaaaal
only CPUs you should consider:gaming: i7 9700kpoorfag: r5 3600as long as you don't pay for it: 3900x, 3950x, 9900k.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GjSiLbCtHU
>>71849076I should probably add backups don't matter to the doesn't matter list.
>>71849078yes, Intel is for uninformed people who don't actually know jackshit but just buy what they know from hearsayAMD otoh is for pioneers, people who are ahead of the curve
>>71849116This but unironically.
>>71849076It's a backing up CPU!
>>71849093Wrong, retard. If consoles had Intel CPUs in them, they'd do 4K at 144 FPS while sipping 3W.
>>71844355Zen2 is the best choice for gaming. The same max fps as Intel but also smoother gameplay. And I'm not even talking about streaming.
>>71849076Oh shit, now the Intel shill will make 10 posts with "BACKUP ENTHUSIAST CPU XDDD"oh god what have I done
>>71849099I mean I'm poor but I'm not third world poor
>>71849160streaming doesn't matter!
Imagine unironically shilling for IntlelFOR FREE
>>71849196if you're 3rd world poor you should be buying zen1 and zen+, they're cheaper than dirt now. or you can get chink mobo + CPU bundles for <$200 on intel. I don't think they do zen ones. that's what smart BRs do.
>>71849160>The same max fps as Intel but also smoother gameplayfalse>And I'm not even talking about streamingimagine buying a cpu to stream to 0 viewers for years. besides GPU encoding is better for streaming with nvenc.
>>71849231it's not for free, 0.02 $ is a lot of money for some people in less fortunate countries
>>71849293>GPU encodingenjoy that YIFY-tier garbage quality
>>71849293>nvencNo serious gamer would ever consider using nvidia now that AMD has Anti-Lag on their GPUs
>>7184434314nm is a bigger number than 7nm.bigger = betterAMD BTFO
>>71848730From Intel or AMD?
What will the state of processors be 20 years from now? Will Moore's Law just become Moore Cores Law?
>>71849293>falseTrue. 99% of real systems are GPU bottlenecked. And AMD provides better lows than Intel because of its better multithreading.
>>71845910A socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear
>>71849099I hate this fucker's voice so much. He still hasn't owned up to anything, why the hell should I ever listen to him? The 3600, 3700x, and 3900x are all incredible buys. If all you do is masturbate to fps charts, then by all means get a 9900k.
>>71844581>Germany doesn't matter!I'm intrigued
>>71849623>then by all means get a 9900k*and still get shittier lows
>>71849689Anon, it get higher lows as well on average but who fucking cares when any CPU that's at least $200 gives good gaymen performance. I am just appalled at the amount of people holding fps charts in a pedestal. I bet 99% of them can't even tell the difference when they're above 90fps anyways.
>>71849689>*and still get shittier lowsWatch him sperg out completely after I post this. He'll probably start writing in all caps greentext and posting wojaks or whatever.
>>71849736"Tech Reviewers" on YT have to eat too, you know. Intel is so generous as to pay them a nice sum so they don't have to go hungry. A true samaritan. Go Intel!
i7-4770k & 3Dfag hereR7 3700X is the perfect choice
>>71849308that would be AMD's encoder, go look at comparisons, it's not even close>>71849453>And AMD provides better lows than Intel because of its better multithreading.no. see:>>71847930>>71847916>>71847900>>71847886>>71847872>>71847855>>71849800keep coping, you fucks were saying 5ghz easy and thus top gaming for literal years.
Nothing pisses me off more than uppity poor people. We get it, your budget CPU/GPUs are fine for your pay grade. You don't have to make threads lying to yourself and shitting up the board about how AMD is now the preferable choice. Nobody with any sense and money is going to buy AMD, because they're shit. They've always been shit. Intel has outperformed them at every turn and your meme sponsored "benchmarks" aren't going to convince me otherwise. AMD shills have always been pathetic, but this release is especially painful. Just fuck off and keep your poverty stricken tech advice to yourself.
>>71848142Why the hate about winzip benchmarks?Do you like them taking forever to inflate/deflate your shit?
>>71849076Also when you have to record dozens of tracks in AIFF or WAV and take them to the studio
>Nothing pisses me off more than uppity poor people. We get it, your budget CPU/GPUs are fine for your pay grade. You don't have to make threads lying to yourself and shitting up the board about how AMD is now the preferable choice. Nobody with any sense and money is going to buy AMD, because they're shit. They've always been shit. Intel has outperformed them at every turn and your meme sponsored "benchmarks" aren't going to convince me otherwise. AMD shills have always been pathetic, but this release is especially painful. Just fuck off and keep your poverty stricken tech advice to yourself.
>>71850129>no. see>proceeds to prove him rightThe absolute state of pozzed intelshitters
>>71844355This won't be the case after Microsoft fixes scheduler issues and after better optimized drivers come out
>>71849781Enjoy your stutters. And be sure to post another cherry picked benchmark to prove me wrong as if your feelings will ever change the fact that Intel is fucking garbage.
Love intelfag tears so much, when gaming was their last line of defense and they're getting crushed there too, you know they start panicking and go into maximum shilling after realizing intel is pretty much shit in every way possible.
>>71844343>SIPP cycleWhat does it mean?
Just to let you know that Wendell got his 3800X to boost to 4.525. Wish he would post some single bench scores though.
>>71850623so this is the next evolution of "just wait"
>>71850718Still destroys Intel in single core.
>>71848525>This is the reason why so many companies like to work with AMDCringe. Intel 'works with' thousands more companies than AMD does and makes more profit in 4 weeks than AMD makes revenue in a year.
>>71844355Good goy, just ignore minimum fps and focus only on average fps at 360p low settings
>>71844343>fast & secure>AMD market share is shit so fewer people are beating on them looking for security flaws>this somehow means AMD is more secure than IntelIt's like saying Linux is more secure than Windows because no malware authors are writing for an OS that has sub single digit market share
>>71851164And yet 10nm is shit forever.
>>71851400Intel has no reason to prematurely push out 10nm CPUs if AMD can't make a CPU better than 14nm++++ refreshes of a microarchitecture that was taped out in 2013.
>>71851416Nice damage control, but your 10nm is still dead.I'm sure Intel enjoys losing market share at an ever increasing rate.
>>71848764>beating intel in gaming doesn't matter!TFW intshill accidently admits they only have one claim to success over amd.even so, everything else on that list is more an intel issue more than an amd issue.
>>71851436Intel isn't losing market share, lmao. They're making more money than ever before.
>>71851448Nah Intel is still a stuttery housefire so Ryzen is pretty much superior in every possible scenario, from gaming to streaming and productivity.
>>71851462Whatever helps you cope at night.
Intel is a pozzed garbage of a company making pozzed housefire trash products for subhuman Intel fanboys.
>>718515911 NT$ has been deposited into your account
>>71851637Truth hurts, pozzedboy
>>71848558This is gonna be gud.
>>71852112truth in bizzaro world
THANK YOU BASED INTELStill emperor of gaymen, still best budget offer, still most reliable and most socially prestigious
>>71848773Laptops are not PCs
>>71849046Who the fuck is this creature people here keep posting?
>>71847739>massive bar for a 9fps difference oy vey
>>71852212>Intel shill is also a lowtest gookposterOf course.
>>71847873Some of us write code or render video, /v/ermin
>>71844428>Be intel>Release Sandy Bridge with soldered IHS>Goys get so much OC performance from them you remove soldered IHS from all chips to come after>Forced to use soldered IHS again when they do 9 series because they are uncontrollable infernos without itDon't you dare talk price to performance with Intel. They are as anti-consumer as it comes and all the mitigation bullshit is 100% on them putting in back doors for spooks.
>providing 10 cores>aka double ring bushousefire ensured
>>71850190>Intel has outperformed them at every turnHello zoomer!Protip: look up NetBurst.
>>71851354>It's like saying Linux is more secure than Windows because no malware authors are writing for an OS that has sub single digit market shareuhm sweety, just about every webserver runs Linux
>>71844550You do realize console games are optimized for console hardware? Shit could be like running 2 arm processors And get good performance if the devs coded for it
>>71844658There has never been an in the wild exploit of any of the cpu vulns and there never will be now that patches are mainstream and in every linux distro and windows. I turn that shit off in GRUB for the extra performance bevause I know I'm never going to be attacked via muh cph flawz
>>71855565a digital anti-vaxxer lol
>>71844355I won't lie, as a physicist and 3D modelling hobbyish, watching Intel kiddies run round screeching about games all day actually annoys me, go and storm Area 51 you dumb zoomer
>>71847657so wait, is 3700x better than 3900x? what about streaming?
>>71847692>>71847703So i9 and i7 will get better FPS in games but when you start streaming through OBS it will take huge hit and Ryzen will actually achieve the same result since it won't take that that big hit while streaming?
>>71847826>i9 under 90degrees on load Imposible
>>71856799Shut up goy............