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Lain is now open source.
https://www.nbcuni.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/lain/ttl/
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>>71792024
JP residents only and for only nine years.
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I'm not sure if that actually qualifies as "open source", but it looks pretty neat.
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>>71792047
But if a Japanese resident starts a Lain related open source project, there's no problem with westerners participating in that.

The producer of the tv show made a github repository that currently only has the original Lain logo.
https://github.com/uedajapan/lainTTL_repository
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>>71792099
What exactly is this?
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>>71792134
To celebrate the 21st birthday of the anime, the producer of the show went to his corporate overlords and asked if the "brand" could be released in kind of public domain. So, for the next 9 years (at least) people are allowed make Lain related content, including commercial, without the fear of being sued. Wanna make figurines of the characters and sell them? Go ahead. Wanna make a Lain computer game? No problem.
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>Open source, but not free
St. IGNUcius, please help us save Lain
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This by far my favourite anime. I hope I can stop drinking long enough to contribute.
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>>71792237
He's too busy writing his blog to do anything.
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>>71792228
thanks anon, pretty cool.
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>>71792265
You can tell by that blog post that Stallman still has some Jew in him, even if it is self-hating.
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Surely we can make something based with Lain right? riiiight???
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This is interesting. Maybe we can make a /g/ project around it for shits and giggles.
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so who's making Copland OS?
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>>71792331
go and get the latest ubuntu iso, change the lines in /etc/lsb-release or /etc/os-release, add a shitty gtk theme and you're done.
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>>71792346
Lain would clearly use an RPM based distro.
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>>71792440
Lain would clearly use GuixSD, given how its configurable in Scheme
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>>71792453
I'll make the logo.
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Lain used Common Lisp, so whatever we are making, it must be in Common Lisp. Any other opinion shall be disregarded.
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>>71792477
The Wired Browser
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>>71792024

TRANSLATE IT WEEBS
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>Only Japanese civilians can start projects
Someone fork the repo, which was made in Japan. Then we can start western projects from that, as it is still rooted in Japan.
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>>71792525
do we have to send prs
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>>71792285
mate no matter how cheap it is you shouldn't pay for the ability to use a public hygienic waste solution, it hurts the general public to not offer it for free. and if that becomes common practice it opens you up for further exploitation, stallman is thinking ahead, to a dystopian future where breathing air will get quarters kicked out of you
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>>71792295
Lain based H-game with insane amounts of guro and rape.
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>>71792525
That's just to satisfy the legal department of the company. They won't come after you if you start a non-commercial open source project.
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>>71792574
I mean, she canonically watches people masturbate and made the heads of those two glow in the dark dudes blow up
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>>71792574
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>>71792569
Where do you think maintenance for those toilets would come from?
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>>71792605
from the labors of people who without having to also clean bathrooms would be getting paid to sit down due to their normal work being done after very little time at all
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>>71792440
>>71792453
>linux crap
Lain write is own OS in assembly on a JIT compiler running on a quantum computer, you filthy faggots.
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>>71792741
Nobody on this fucking board has the ability to work on an operating system or a kernel. We need something simpler.
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>>71792756
we need to work on a lain logo
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>>71792569
The general public hurt the general public by pissing on the toilet paper unrestricted. A quarter alone prevents such barbarism for all privileged members of society.
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>>71792756
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
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>>71792228
So my hotglue Lain .onion paysite can move to the regular net now?
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>>71792781
if you think rewarding people for shitting in harder to find places is benefiting anyone, i disagree
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>>71792766
here use mine its open source
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>>71792265
Well, if no one lays for lay toilets they will simply cease to exist, not become free. What did Stallmeme mean by this
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>>71793502
>lay
Pay.
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>>71793502
if the only toilets that remain are free toilets then there are only free toilets what do you mean?
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>>71792574
>Imbecile who hasn't read the link OP posted
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Remember when lainposting was a bannable offense?
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>>71794016
You are the most cancerous trip I have ever seen.
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>>71794016
>tripcode
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>>71794042
He is the loneliness hikikomori ever, very sad anon.
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>>71792275
>>71792814
only in japan or japanese residence. outside there they can still ream you for copyright infringement as if that every stopped anyone
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Are the Kuroba tripfag filters broken or something?
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>>71793679
The free ones aren't going anywhere because they were free to begin with. The paid ones were never free.
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>>71792024
https://t.me/psychocrash
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>>71792237
It's not even open source. The conditions blatantly violates the Open Source Definition[1] #5 and #6.

[1] https://opensource.org/osd
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>>71797013
>telegram
nibba
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Does that mean the market will be flooded with fleshlights modeled after her cunny?
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>>71792228
I think that's a good long term marketing strategy given internet memes and how relevant Lain is becoming to them.
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>>71797029
nope, the website has a terms list that states we can't use lewds, political statements, undermine the creator or fans, anything that isn't brand ok or basically something the people who own it as inappropriate. so you can use the names, look but it can't be from the show, ideas presented but not the story, or anything made and only allowed in japan. Let's hope that we can use anon's loophole for this pseudo open source concept. but what could we have expected from an anime dealer. Atleast they aren't actively taking down existing stuff
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>>71797029
/g/ is a faggot board, that kind of thing wouldn't sell well anyway
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>>71792796
If by peak performance you mean peak ni66€rfaggotry
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Not really open source, only for nips, and only for a limited time.
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>>71797093
As far as I can tell, the longevity of dem Lain memes is more due to the rest of the world than the Japanese fan base.

Ah well, this is also just nip nonsense, not at all actually open source. It's a misnamed limited license.
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>>71797187
Not at all open source.

It meets maybe three conditions of the ten in the OSI definition and fails on the rest. Just a typical limited license.
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>>71792024
what a trash poster girl i can draw better one in ms paint in like 10 minutes jesus chirst
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DEKINAI
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>>71792024
Public domain is not the same as open source.
But what do you expect from a skiddie Lain shitter, you ruined the character for everyone.
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>>71792574
Lain based H-game where you meet Lain and you become her bf.
Oh and you hack the planet while spinning in circles.
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Me on the right.
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>>71797673
No i
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>>71797673
me on the left
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4k 60p HDR Lain porn when?
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>>71797314
She's perfect the way she is, and you're just a mean dum dum!
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All Lain lewders deserve to be drawn and quartered.
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>>71798066
in hell where it belongs
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>>71797013
Cute feet
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>>71792024
what is lain and where's the code
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>>71792228

They should do this with a lot of anime or manga, especially if the magazines have finished publication of that manga or tv stations no longer broadcast the anime because the official series has finished. Fans making open source manga / anime of their most loved manga's / animes would be based.
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>>71792024
Does this mean nendos and mousepads?
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Okay, I have a Japanese friend that can negotiate for Western rights if needed. What shall he ask for specifically? Get your shit together this is potentially our only chance at getting it right.
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AND YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND
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>>71798400
I hope so. I don't necessarily want a Lain nendo, but I've wanted a figure or other merch for a while.
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>>71792569
> it hurts the general public to not offer it for free
fuck the general public. Every public works project has been turned to shit over time due to tragedy of the commons
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summary for those that don't speak moon please
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>>71796844
your last post doesn't seem to be contrasting with stallmans viewpoint, this post claims that once something is free it will always be free. but if paid toilets become an acceptable thing why would companies not capitalize on it? think about paid online on consoles, all of them are peer to peer and yet people still paid for a second internet bill. and now its common process, there is no free online console anymore, they shut down the free services just so people had to use the paid versions. so if paid restrooms became a thing i strongly believe they would become a thing everywhere like tipping did
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>>71792099
>The producer of the tv show made a github repository that currently only has the original Lain logo.
So you're telling me I can't make the logo?
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>>71798488
i mean as a general hygiene service, you indirectly benefit from it being used. poorfags are not scared of shitting on the floor if it will save them a few quarters to buy more beer/cigarettes
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Gonna rewatch Lain now. Wish me luck.
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>>71799168
congratulations, have luck
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>>71799168
>Wish me luck.
Why would I want to do that?
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>>71799496
Why would you not want to wish me luck?
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>>71799539
Why would you need it?
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>>71799656
Who doesn't need some luck?
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>>71799670
Good point. Good luck, anon.
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>>71797157
>undermine the creator or fans
that literally covers anything and everything
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>>71792024
cheap lain fumos when???
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>>71798777
Are you retarded? Toilets being free to use (not only for clients, but for everyone) is a thing because it actually brings more sales. Use your brain, if someone enters a grocery store, a restaurant or whatever to take a dump, there's a chance that person will end up buying something either because he saw something he liked on the way out or just to recompensate the company for letting he take a dump. If paid toilets were more lucrative, you can bet your ass they would be everywhere.
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>>71792591
That was the Knights, my dude.
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>>71792228
But I don't really get it, aren't unlicensed figurines and doujin pretty common at events like comiket?

To my understanding few try to go after these people because is kind of common knowledge that almost everyone starts like that, selling doujins.

I follow some manga artists on twitter and they just retweet those things and praise them.
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>>71792237
This. Save us, Sutaruman-sama.
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Legal brainlet here

What would happen if I make a game using the license say it comes out on 2027 and the license expires on 2028, would they take ownership of my game?
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>>71792285
>t. pays to perform a natural human function
Never gonna make it
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>>71799998
one off.
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>>71799824
this looked like a really different thing in the thumbnail...
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>>71799845
there is no obligation to pay free gas station bathrooms. you are saying there should be an obligation
>If paid toilets were more lucrative, you can bet your ass they would be everywhere.
and the whole point is that stallman does not want it to be profitable and advocates not using paid bathrooms so that it doesn't end up being everywhere, is that not all this argument as about?
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>>71799957
>But I don't really get it, aren't unlicensed figurines and doujin pretty common at events like comiket?
Yes, but that's quite limiting. You can't for example make a figurine of an anime character and then start selling it on Amazon. Companies are only willing to turn the blind eye as long as things are being distributed in the doujin circles and events. If you made a game, for example, you would not be allowed to put it on a store like Steam without getting a license first.
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>>71800136
alright
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full neoreactionary hypercapitalism will result in segregated toilets by technical ability
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>>71797013
hope it isn't a suicide group....
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>>71798367
or you could go to Comiket and sell your "doujin" stuff there, like, right now
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>>71800265
Comikets are dying anyway.
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>>71792024
the fuck is this shit. Translate to a non barbaric language
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My Japanese is pretty shit but I had a go at translating the guidelines (the Usage Agreement is a full-on legal document, which would be much harder for me to read). IANAL, nor Japanese, nor a Japanese lawyer. (I put some small translators notes in square brackets.)

From today till the 30th year anniversary of the broadcast [of SEL]
(2019-07-06), in accordance with the conditions of the Usage Guidelines
and the Usage Agreement below, and limited only to persons residing in
within Japan, consent is given to create secondary works based off of
"serial experiments lain" (hereon referred to as the "Original Work") for
business or non-business purposes, without regard for fees[/compensation].
There is no requirement for editorial supervision [from the company].

Again, such consent is granted to "Open Source Projects" without legal
personality that is made up and from the community/fans.
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>>71801836

1. The secondary work should be within the confines of that consented to
in the "Usage Agreement," and not break it.
2. You may not use the Original Work to make a secondary work that
is contrary public morals in act or intends to be so, is antisocial in
act or intends to be so, advocates a particular creed or religion, or
spreads a political message.
3. Your secondary work may not hurt the honor or dignity of creators
related to this company [NBCU] or other fans in the community.
["名誉と品位" (honor or dignity), from a quick google search, seems
to be used in other legal documents in Japanese. This probably has a
specific, established, legalese meaning that I am ignorant of.]
4. You may not use the Original Work to make a secondary work that
contains adult-oriented content, services, or advertising.
5. You may not use the Original Work to make a secondary work that
infringes on a third parties intellectual property rights, or any other
of their rights, or create one with the aim to violate any other rights.
6. Excepting special permission granted from this company, your secondary
work may not be made to confuse others into thinking that your work is
a official good of our company.
7. You may not violate the laws of the region or country that the work
is made in.
8. You may not use this material in a way that this company judges to be
inappropriate.
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>>71801836
>>71801873

Important Points:
1. This consent is limited to secondary works of the original work. Consent
is not given to use the original work directly, or related copyrighted
works before this announcement. You are not allowed to use music,
original recordings, or other images [from SEL].
2. You may not transfer the right to your secondary work to a third party.
[I'm not 100% sure, but I think this is about creators rights /
copyrights. The literal translation of 権利 is "right" or "privilege.]
3. If this company experiences unexpected circumstances, the consent given
in the above document (the "Guidelines") or the "Usage Agreement" may
be terminated, or the consent conditions may change.
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>>71801836
>within Japan
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>>71792574
Terms of service says you cant use it for that
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>>71802942
Did you even watch the anime? Nobody in that show cares about stuff like licenses. They just do what they want.
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>>71794016
Fuuuuck oooofff aaalerady
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>>71801836
>and limited only to persons residing in
within Japan
Darn
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>>71801140
How? Just because a lot of TouHou is at Reitaisai now doesn't mean Comiket is dying
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>>71792814
pm me the link
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>Within Japan
Is it allowed to fly there to publish my Lain smut?
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>>71797381
how the f can't something without source code be open soruce
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>>71803662
Different anon burt in the guidelines they literally said you can't use any of the source material like music images etc. Just the brand characters and so on
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>>71792024
already loved lain, what now
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>>71803846
How does the license work for derivative works? Will they be subject to copyright laws after 10 years?
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>>71803846
>open source
>can't use any of the source material
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lain a cute
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I'm a Japanese citizen and live in Japan. Do i just make a github account and let you guys go wild or what?

I only know basic python, so that's all i can really do, though.
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>>71799998
They could not take ownership of your work. You own the copyright to your creative expression.
They own only the copyright to their creative expression.

But your game would be a derivative work of Serial Experiments: Lain. So they could legally prevent you from distributing your work. But if you then removed all Lain related story elements and art, and re-skinned the game, then that version of the game would be entirely yours.
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>>71800005
>he pays to eat
haha, really?
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>>71805894
Classic
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>>71792024
And I don't seem to understand...
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>>71803662
>>71803846
>>71804009
You stupid monkey niggers
They're automatically providing a permissive and limited license FOR open source projects.
Meaning, you don't have permission to create a CLOSED SOURCE project
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>>71808076
go fer it
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>>71810032
>Copeland OS Enterprise
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If it doesn't follow the four freedoms of free software then I don't give a fuck.



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