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AHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA
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How do I delete other people's posts in this forum?
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>>71366651
Hilarious! Which one do you have?
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>>71366651
750$ btfo 1700$ part
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>>71366651
lmao intel absolutely btfo
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>1k cheaper.
>Boosts higher.
>Mfw even if Intel slashed their prices 50% they couldn't compete.
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>>71366669
JUST
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>>71366651
and not pictured, ECC support on many AM4 boards. Intel charges an even bigger premium for that on xeons.
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>>71366651
>PCIe 3
>1/4 the cache
>a laptop's worth of additional power draw
>2.5x the price
Fufufu
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>>71366729
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>>71366729
>Intel
>lowering prices
pick one, because they only know one thing: BRUTE FORCE. They're now going to go ahead and make a 10-core/10-thread mainstream i9 and have it require an AIO.
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>>71366651
cons:
consume 70% more power
lower clock
boost lower
one third of a cache
pros:
costs 130+%
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>>71366729
yes all that other stuff that was leaked about zen 2 that turned out to be false be damned
surely these totally hypothetical prices will be accurate
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mommy lisa this nut is for you
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>165W
That's gonna be 250 real watts, what the fuck. I thought they nabbed Keller to avoid building a bulldozer.
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jesus christ
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>>71366815
> totally hypothetical prices
What the hell are you on about?
Do you not realize that they JUST CONFIRMED the price of $749?
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We are witnessing a monumental shift in the consumer cpus
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>>71366883
a shift from dual channel memory to dual channel memory! very much wow!
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>>71366803
Yeah there's zero chance of Intel ever cutting their prices. Especially now since they'd have to do such a radical price cut that it's not even conceivable for them. They're literally out of the game for years to come with these higher core versions.
When Threadrippers arrive they're going to be kicked in the nuts again. It's like every time they try to get up AMD delivers another kick to their balls.
10 core mainstream from Intel that still beats the competition in gaming would be one hell of a housefire.
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>>71366967
>It's like every time they try to get up AMD delivers another kick to their balls.
AMD said the same thing during the Athlon days

Counting out a billion dollar company is retarded
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>>71366651
But where's the benchmarks?
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>>71366651
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>>71366992
just buy a money printer.
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>>71366669
Email moot@4chan.org
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>>71366992
>165W
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Who needs this much parallel processing
CPUs aren't getting faster they're just getting bigger
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Your daily reminder.
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>>71366729
Man, I can't wait to buy Intel shares at $2.
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>24 vs 68 PCIE lanes
>Dual channel DDR4 vs quad channel DDR4.
Yikes
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>>71366651
>no 18c/36t
AMDrones BTFO
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>>71371021
kek
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>>71370513
>platform up to 68 lanes
The CPU still has like 20.
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>>71366651
OH NO BROS, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RUPPEES, I HAVE TO START CAMMING NOW
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>>71366720
>didn't buy at 2 $
me on the right
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>>71366753
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>>71368704
/buymoneyprinter
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>>71371021
With those clocks, the 3950x might beat the 9980XE flat out.
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>>71368901
The more cores the average person has, the more developers will actually have to try and multithread their program.
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>>71366674
>>71366729
>>71371021
Pretty sure it BTFOs the 18 core as well despite having less cores, as well.

>>71366803
>>71366967
Yep.
There are fanboys and uninformed people which will still buy it.
If anything, they'll increase prices like they did with the 9000 series, to offset the lower sales volume.

>>71371937
We're already seeing games scaling to n-number of cores. A few will often use at least 16 of the cores (with SMT idle) on the 2950X.
I think we're going to see 6c/12t the minimum to simply get a smooth 60fps on next gen console port games or simply next gen games on engines which were designed for the next consoles.
Sure, next gen consoles are 8c/16t, but the lower clock speeds mean they're the same as a 6c/12t at 33% higher clocks. Though they do also have less OS and background overhead.
But 8c/16t to 12c/24t is going to be the ideal.
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>>71366651
How is nobody looking at the important specs?

>intel
>165W

>AMD
>105W

lmao, housefires are back!
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>>71370096
Short them now and become rich. Why would you buy them after they're finished when you can make money during their long fall?
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Would the 3600x be enough for 4k max settings 90fps gaming?
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>>71373345
really? 4k is GPU bottleneck while CPU will mostly hover at 30% usage m8
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>>71373345
I dare say yes. I don't play much games now, but ryzen 5 1600 gives me 80 to 100 fps in hunt:showdown. Though I have no idea what GPU will offer that kind of performance, even 2080 ti isn't capable of that.
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Intel 10nm supershitter 2020
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>>71372282
Why did they draw in a shitty line? Why not just invert the P and mirror it?
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>9800x
>$170 less than the 3950x
>outperforms it in most tasks
>amdbros: w-we won!!!111
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>>71372282
wait...
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>>71374440
It only burns your house down faster kek
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>>71374440
>8 core 3.8 GHz Skylake outperforms 16 core Zen 2
What
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>>71370513
>>71374589
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>>71366651
>3600X 12 cores
95W
>3700X 16 cores
65W

explain pls
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>>71374660
95W is a headroom since it's aimed for value tier OverClocking. 3700X is coming as-is, so has pretty lackluster OverClocking.
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>>71366812
Pros: 2700% more hardware vulnerabilities
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This is no reason to buy the 3950x when the 2950x is only 50 bux more, motherboard costs around the same, you get a better platform, and support for 32/64 what ever core TR4s that come out.
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>>71374440
Hello retard
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>>71374693
Thank you for posting this.
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>>71366651
>threads
I thought you have to disable hyper threading on Intel if you don't wanna get fucked by those security issues?
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>>71374660
Binning
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Don't forget.
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>>71374951
based amd
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>>71374951
>N/A
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>>71374693
If you want a 16-core Threadripper, get the 1950X. The 2950X is basically less than 10% faster, but still costs $300 more ($800 vs. $500).
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>>71374679
The more vulnerabilities the better, goy!
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>>71374440
>clownposter
>is retarded
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>>71374693
Except that I don't need all those lanes yet, but I'd like the cores anyways? I have a good x370 board with 3200MHz RAM, it should be fine just slapping that in. Besides, we have no guarantee newer threadrippers will followsuit with AM4. I'm pretty sure they're going to do a new socket to include PCI 4.0.
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>>71376075
It's always a possibility that they could just skip PCIE4.0 and go straight to PCIE5.0
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>>71376133
That too but I'm not sure Rome has that kind of support.
Zen3 Threadrippers are going to be bonkers if they have 3 threads per core.
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>>71366819
based
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>>71371234
NEED RUPEES FOR CORE2DUO SIRS
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>>71366651
>165
Inb4 meltdown
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>>71366651
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?????????????
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>>71366651
>AMD side
>Boost Freq

>Intel side
>INTEL™ TURBO BOOST MAX TECHOLOGY
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>>71378473
>no leather jacket
Ruined
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>>71374452
>lowers idle temperatures by 20c just by milling the cpu to a flat surface

good to see the times haven't changed
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>>71378473
NANOMACHINES
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>>71378439
Needs more turbo booft
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>>71374951
fuck off, bully, intel's slides are better
>https://imgur.com/a/xh2ny
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>>71375003
holy shit batman, i remember you from the old Fermi threads laughing at Nvidia
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>>71381269
What in tarnation
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>>71381269
>1,2,3,5,7,10,11
Kek
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>>71381269
kek
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>>71372282
They're not directly comparable, senpai. They use non-standard metrics to find TDP.
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>>71372189
>2008 era graphics with HL2-tier water
>absolutely nothing is going on at the scene - 2.5 actors, 5 raindrops, no particle-heavy shit, fucking nothing
>57 fucking FPS with 32 4ghz cores and 1080Ti
4K or not, just jesus fucking christ.
AAA graphics did not improve much at all since Crysis, despite current gen flagman GPUs being literally -two- orders of magnitude faster than 8800 Ultra. Even some Unity piece of shit won't run on C2D E8400/8800 Ultra with comfortable FPS today.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-10-year-anniversary-benchmarks,5329-4.html
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-8800-Ultra-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti/m14944vs4027

people aren't shitting on game coders nearly enough.
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>>71366651
Really who is buying any of these? I'm still happy with my Haswell i5 here. It's still faster than any laptop.
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>>71366651
3700x and 3900x looks like the sweetspots.
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>>71366840
It will take a while for keller cpus to come
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>>71382202
Anyone on an older core i7 series. I'm still not sure if the AMD bandwagon is worth it or to just get another Intel.
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>>71374660
Clocks
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>>71382170
> game coders
Are enthusiasts who work for a minimum wage for corporations.
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>>71382170
games are no longer a reflection of what bleeding edge hardware can do but lootbox cashgrabs for twitch retards anon
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>>71383042
games are no longer a reflection of what bleeding edge hardware can do because it turns out that gameplay is more important than implementing the latest version of the 'uncanny valley'.

FTFY
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>>71383106
>defending the jew that got us into 4x electron.exe per app and 1 core or heavily unoptimized 8 core games
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>>71382695
If you're still on a core i7 920 in 2019 you obviously don't care THAT much about performance. You can buy an entire HP Z440 Xeon 1650v3 system for $400. Why spend $400 on JUST a CPU?

>>71383138
>defending the Jew
ok Nazi
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>>71383198
anything wrong anon? would you like to discuss your ((( lootboxes ))) minigame?
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>>71383242
Get that racist shit out of here. This isn't /pol/.
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>>71383334
fucking retard defending ((( lootboxes ))) its very obvious ur glowing in the dark kike
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>>71366651
I know, its funny how much intel beats Ryzen at Optane support.
Ryzen a' la' shit if it can't support the best
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>>71383242

okay this is HELLA EPIC. LETS MEET AT A NAZI RALLY, BROTHER!
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4790k here, switching as soon as Zen 2 releases.
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>>71366651
This kills the HEDT
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>>71366819
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>>71383521
>gamecache
lol? obviously you need a $500 CPU for... gaming.
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>>71384057
I do, actually. Imagine being a corelet to a PS5?
How embarrassing.
I also need the extra cores for my work flow on virtual machines.
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>>71384057
considering the 9900k was the 'best' gayming cpu, yes
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>>71383431
Why? What's wrong with your 4790K?
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>>71383521
not with 2 channel ram it doesn't
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Has anybody done cache performance benchmarks on these? Their design means there has to be massively higher latency on L3
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>>71374660
penis heads
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>>71374660
Learn to read, kid.
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>>71384792
Objectively wrong, doubling L3 increased latency from 35 to 40 cycles, basically nothing
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>>71366651
>incel cachelets
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>>71385244
40 cycles on what? the local CCX? lmao, no wonder the RAM latency is still shit
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>>71374693
My problem right now is I'd have to get my hands on another B-die CL13 3200MHz 2x16GB of RAM to make the move to X399. And say I do. What then? TR has numa issues with Windows and all the TR stuff out right now is 14nm or 12nm based still. Not only that, I'd have to get a new cooler as well.

Where as if I wait for Ryzen 3xxx, I get 16c32t and can keep my cooler and not have to buy another RAM kit. Besides, PCIe 4.0 is twice as fast as 3.0
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>>71374693
>IPC doesnt exist
Just get a super cheap high clocking 8 core bulldozer
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>>71370096
This if we now need to force intel to be competitive.
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>>71383334
I thought this /g/ - politically incorrect and dragon dildos
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>>71385578
More likely both will stop making money on CPUs. x86 on the edge of irrelevance..
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>>71385630
>says the ARMposter for the thousandth time this year
If you can recompile literally everything to run on ARM and the performance isn't shit, then I'm all for it. Who are going to make the chips tho?
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>>71385860
Apple's already making some.
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>>71385915
Interesting. Source?
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>>71386034
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A12X
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>>71386099
pic related
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>>71386099
That's actually one of the better decisions I've seen apple made recently.
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>>71386118
>Tablet memory out performs all laptops
OH NO NO NO NO
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>>71381269
>https://imgur.com/a/xh2ny
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>>71386164
LPDDR4X is hot shit. Standard modules are 4266MT/s.
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>>71386099
>The A12X is manufactured by TSMC using a 7 nm FinFET process, and it contains 10 billion transistors[1][3] vs. the 6.9 billion on the A12.[8]
>TSMC
>based in Taiwan

This could create issues for Apple if Taiwan uses local resources which actually are built upon or use resources from the mainland. Disputing issues in Taiwan at one level should be similar to how it is done in the west, as Taiwan has proper court system. However, trying to attach a dispute to Chinese manufacturers is much harder. It is becoming clear that China's lack of a system for dispute resolution impacts the quality of their products. The users of those products are not able to enforce any system to guarantee the product's quality.
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>>71383431
>>71384774
Don't believe the side-grade meme. I went from a 4790K to a R7 1700. Was a huge performance gain.
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>>71386208
Those graphs disagree with you.
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>>71366783
Intel tdp is not power draw
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>>71386332
>huge performance gain
for what application?
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>>71386222
>could
Yeah it could. Then again, Apple could switch to Samsung or even Intel for fab purposes.
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>>71374440
Based retard
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>>71384774
aren't newer processors faster?
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>>71386118
>geekbench
opinion discarded
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>>71386332
Was it really?
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>>71385600
tfw no redpilled wife (male)
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>>71386118
>cachebench
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>>71387727
>>71388200
post your own preferred benchmark then

>>71387689
of course. is your processor bottlenecking your application?
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>>71386348
>Intel tdp is not power draw

Power draw is even higher on intels. TDP is thermal dissipation, so they give twice the heat off now. GG intel, summer can come with your own personal central heating.

Can their i9-9999kys even still be aircooled without perma-throttling and underclocking itself?
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>>71388392
I'd love to but everyone who tests Apple products has a giant throbbing boner for Cachebench.
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>>71366961
16 Cores for 1/3 the Intel blood tax.
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>>71381861
>https://imgur.com/a/xh2ny
The Intel lawyers are having a field day.
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>>71388475
They 9900K does double the TDP in power draw just by running inside it's factory defined boost envelope.
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>>71383521
Why exactly are we suppoed to buy the 3800x again instead of the 3700x? $70 more for 0.1ghz more clock?
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>>71388720
Base clock is higher, so I'm guessing higher binning for better overclocking/lower voltage? Every X chip should have XFR2 enabled by default in BIOS. Best off waiting for an in-depth review.
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>>71383334
missed the quads kike.
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>>71385382
>TR has numa issues with Windows
Even with the May 2019 (Windows 10 1903) update?
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https://www.amazon.ca/Best-Sellers-Electronics-CPU-Processors/zgbs/electronics/1233052011

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Processors/zgbs/computers/430515031

https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/bestsellers/computers/4913338051

https://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/computers/430177031
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We are now forever going to be stuck on 16 cores because windows wont update their shitty pozzed scheduler.
On the bright side, that means cpu's are now progressing so fast that compatibility cant keep up.
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>>71366651
>16c/32t
>base clock 3.1 Ghz
>boost clock 4.5 Ghz
>cache 22 MB
>tdp 165W
>price $1684

>16c/32t
>base clock 3.5 Ghz
>boost clock 4.7 Ghz
>cache 64 MB
>tdp 105W
>price $749
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>>71390090
>We are now forever going to be stuck on 16 cores because windows wont update their shitty pozzed scheduler.
He doesn't know.
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>>71390090
The hardware is already very complex and advanced, the software side is still shitty garbage made by retarded pajeets.
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>>71389663
He also missed the oven
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>>71390208
I know, anon. I know that the 2990wx was a neglected child that never reached its full potential because its environment never loved it.
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>>71385630
>x86 doesn't matter!
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>>71390461
you don't know about the scheduler update?
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>>71390628
The slide only says it keeps threads on the same ccx and clock selection latency improvements.
It says nothing about not juggling 64 threads around anymore.
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>>71368720
>moot
Who?
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>>71382170
>"optimized" for consoles
>which even with low level access and unified architecture only reach 8800 levels of performance
>hamfisting ports onto PC through sub-optimal wrappers

Be real cool if they got it right this gen and streamlined optimized porting to PC between Vulcan and DX. Considering MS's newfound love for PC and AMD pushing hard in gaming CPUs and performing decently in the GPU segment they inhabit as well as manufacturing the semi-customs for PS5 and Xbox I think there's a lot of impetus for better porting tools and features.
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>>71366651
Fight me IRL
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>>71366992
>higher is better
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Anyone got that 10 year old post complaining about possible vulnerabilities in the core 2 intel CPUs?
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>>71390799
Ha.
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>>71390090
Then don't use Windows as your main OS? Linux is super comfy, I can't even remember the last time I booted to Windows.
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>>71374660
>>71374672
6 core is worse bin and all core base is higher, 8 core is better bin and all core base is lower

>>71388720
better binning so better boost (pbo, xfr) or overclock
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>>71366812
kek
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>>71392523
Use archive
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https://www.techquila.co.in/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-vs-intels-18-core-i9/

>AMD Ryzen 9 3950X with 61K points is the Fastest Processor on Geekbench, Destroys Intel’s 18-Core i9-9980XE
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>>71394158
>implimented
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>>71394061
>>71394158
delid dis
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>>71366651
>2600x
>6c/12t
>$229

>3600
>6c/12t
>$249

are we fucking regressing? fuck amd.
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>>71396543
>can't even see it's 3600X
Go see an optometrist and then kill yourself.
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>>71396543
still cheaper than intel
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>>71396592
>miss out an X
>all pricing and everything else is still as the image tells
>hurr muh spellcheck durr

neck yourself retard. give me one good reason why you're paying more for shit we got ages ago for cheap? if this was nvidia YOU know yourself you'd be shitting on them as much as you can.
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>>71396593
yeah sure, that still doesn't justify why we should be paying more for the same thing we got just a couple years ago for cheaper. if anything the new manufacturing process and stuff should reduce the price of this, not make it more expensive. this is maximum jew no matter how anyone tries to twist it (from a consumer standpoint). intel and nvidia have done this exact same bullshit before and got absolutely shat on about it by this board. why does amd suddenly get a free pass?
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>>71396610
Better IPC better clocks and better efficiency, retarded nigger.
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>>71396770
>Better IPC better clocks and better efficiency
that justifies the higher price? every generation we get better clocks and efficiency yet prices go down over time (inflation aside). if price goes up every time a product with better IPC, clocks and efficiency comes out, by your own logic fucking dual cores should be like $500 by now because all of those categories have gone up massively since the first dual cores. yet as me and you both know that isn't the case. price should go down and products improve to give you better products for cheaper. this is essentially amd being anti consumer (intel aside) because of their market lead right now. do you also give nvidia a free pass for charging more for last gen performance like they did with the turing series?
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>>71396838
Previous Ryzens were underpriced.
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>>71386348
It is the power draw... at base clock and with turbo disabled. They don't measure it with turbo enabled.

Power draw will equal heat output and vice versa with computers for many more years. Our thinking rocks really suck in efficiency converting only 0.0005% power into computations. The rest is put off as straight heat.
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>>71396543
>2600X
>3.6/4.2 Ghz
>16 MB L3
>2933 Mhz DDR4

>3600X
>3.8/4.4 Ghz
>32 MB L3
>3200 Mhz DDR4
>+15% real world IPC improvement
>PCIe 4.0

There's more than just cores to look at sweety
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>>71392551
What distro u use? I never thought I'd do it but I'm ironically thinking of switching to linux. W*ndows 10 is a piece of shit.
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>>71398938
delid dis
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>>71398987
I use Ubuntu right now and would definitely recommend it to anyone be it new or poweruser. Install 18.04 and upgrade to 19.04 if you want to(would recommend for more updated packages)
Don't fall for the noobuntu memes: It, Fedora, and maybe Manjaro are good in the just werks department with enough support that doesn't make them have outdated packages. Try it on a USB drive and consider installing it on a main drive. The sooner the better desu.
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>>71399083
>poweruser
>systemd distro

Sure buddy
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>>71399083
Agreed. Ubuntu LTS is great. I'm not happy with GNOME 3, but switching back to Unity Desktop is super simple.
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>>71366651
OH NO NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>71398938
if it was on the same fucking process, sure. not on a massively more efficient process which is cheaper to manufacture. there should be savings here, not higher prices.
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When are these new ryzen processors coming out. I'm going to be building my own computer soon should I wait?
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>>71399280
Uh you obviously don't know much about computer engineering because smaller processes are much more difficult and result in overall lower yields. Not to mention there is inflation to account for, despite the BLS trying to report much smaller inflation than there actually is.

We do this because we can both shove more transistors in a given area as well as have them use less power (aka less heat) because smaller transistors physically switch faster, which allows us to clock them up back to a power/heat level the previous process was.

Eventually we achieve close to the yields we had on the previous process, but by that point we are moving on to a new process of which the story repeats. Then other companies come in and use the older, more developed process for their cheap SoCs or something, or they make budget versions.
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>>71399372
Everything up to the 12c drops on the 7th of July, the 16c doesnt drop until september.
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>>71366651
what am i looking at here?
im seeing an 18/36 intel chip.
when did that happen?
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>>71399525
When Intel had a panic attack and rebranded server chips as HEDT chips to counter Threadripper.
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>>71399539
did this happen at e3?
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>>71374591
>being this retarded
Nice try intcel
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>>71390700
Dude, what the fuck do you think that means? They specifically say they fill CCX's to the brim with load before jumping anywhere else.
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>>71396610
don't be a poorfag anon
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>>71398842
Conservation of energy. Where does the energy go during the CPU's working cycle? Does it turn to mist, fog, vibration, sound, photons, EM radiation, heat, all of the above or nothing at all?
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>>71390090
Windows can easily make use of more than 16 threads/cores, what are you talking about?

It had issues with being architecturally naive about Zen processors and splitting threads across CCXs and CCDs, which caused needless infinity fabric usage, but that was literally solved a couple days ago with the 1903 update and now Windows will prioritize shoving related threads physically close to each other on the same CCX and CCD.
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>>71400312
>being a windows user in 2019
lol. good that you got a fix for basic SMP finally, in 2019.
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>>71400225
Landauer's principle. The theoretical minimum amount of energy needed to transform a bit of information, irreversibly, is 0.0178 eV. We currently use 3,560 eV to do so.
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>>71399573
It happened last year before AMD announced the 32 and 28 core TaintRippers
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>>71399525
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/x-series/i9-7980xe.html
>Launch Date Q3'17
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>>71383334
sometimes faggots like you make me want to walk into the ocean.
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>>71400583
Windows' Scheduler?
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>>71400583
While this picture is amusing for its context anyone who has had to dig ditches in real life will tell you you get fucked FAST and you need a gang of people to take turns digging.
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>>71392626
higher core base is better right?
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>>71396543
Release Date & Price
April 11, 2017 US $249

literally neck yourself
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Are Intel that dumb or for some reason do their CPUs just cost a tonne to make? How can you get beat on pretty much every metric this hard and still not cave in?
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>>71401961
cave in for what?
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I love watching intel get dabbed on this hard.
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>>71400196
Just because its aware of what a ccx is now doesnt mean it wont start shitting the bed once its given 64 threads.
It doesnt know what to do with that many threads so it juggles them around while they are doing tasks.
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>>71400312
It can use more than 16 cores but it does it like an autistic retard.
Check the 2990wx
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>>71400902
If it was windows scheduler, before core 1 can even get started, it would get swapped out for core 2.
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What stage are intelfags on right now?
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>>71402044
I assume he means end client price. And no they can't really reduce the prices too much because their CPUs are more expensive to produce and with worse yields. I mean at this point they may need to drop by like 30% to 40% to match price/performance. Other than 8700K and the 9700K for exclusive gaming at 1080p it seems like they won't have a good product in any market segment after 7/7
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>>71403053
Anger or depression.
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>>71366669
kek
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>>71401283
wagecuck
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>>71403053
depression
there is literally little to none intel shills compared to 2018
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Why can't Intel stop being pozzed
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>>71402512
I don't think you know how a scheduler works. The total number of threads is irrelevant. The topology is what matters.
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>>71404197
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I guess amd will finally catch up in gaming
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Intel BTFO
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>>71404247
>2080ti
>1080p
how about realistic benchmarks
or is they fell for RTX ON
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>>71404257
>CPU performance metrics don't matter
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I hope nobody uses SSD+Intel

When coupled with an intarded pozzed defective dumpster fire that is the i5 lineup you get HUGE performance hits from the 30+ security mitigations you are required to enable to have some sense of security at least. For example in pic related using intard trash slices SSD performance literally in half which results in excessive stuttering and lag. And that's only from the meltdown and spectre patch IIRC.
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>>71390064
BASED AMD already vastly outselling Intel housefire garbage. Zen 2 is going to annihilate Intel.
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>>71403552
Shill would imply they do it for money. They're closer to scatfags at this point, gladly getting pozzed and fucked in the arse and consuming the shit intel produces
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https://www.semiaccurate.com/2019/06/07/intel-kills-off-a-minor-product-line/

>SemiAccurate has learned that late last week, Intel just knifed one of it’s minor product lines.

SHITEL POZZED HOUSEFIRES ETERNALLY BTFO
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>>71404356
>>71404368
>>71404378
>>71404399

Why do you have to act like different people? Do you have a dissorder?
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>>71404270
>Reality doesn't matter
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>>71404404
Actually, he is samefagging. It's a tactic that some OPs on this site use to bump their posts or make their views look more widely supported, it doesn't really work most of the time and can be seen through easily.
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>>71404270
Well yes, previous gen ryzen benchmarks are irrelevant to this thread. Also any benchmark that has more than 144fps on the weakest result is irrelevant to anything in general.
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>>71404404
>replying to different people means you have a disorder
Seek help.
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>>71404423
It's so blatant it's pathetic. 4 posts all of a sudden of shilling for a company that cares nothing about you.
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>>71404423
>>71404443
Why are you replying to yourself?
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>>71404441
You're just mad because you got called out on your faggotry. If you have nothing better to do then maybe it's time to get a job....Or maybe this is your job, Either way it's pathetic.
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>>71404450
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>>71404429
Intel shills are mentally ill. 720p gaming is all they have left.
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>>71404463
And all amd has left is making cpu bottlenecks to hide it's inferior performance.
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>>71404453
>>71404460
Samefag with inspect element, kys.
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>>71404483
You're actually insane, Get a job.
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Is it just me or does Intel reek of low IQ? Every time I see an Intel build, my first thought is 'you only went with Intel after being fooled by other pozzed fags."
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>>71404498
Haha, i bet you have a whole folder of pasta. Jesus you're so pathetic.
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>>71404508
>what is archive
Retard
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>>71404527
I'm saying that you, Personally are a sad little man. You go on to a weebsite to post pasta, Trying to rile up people so you can feel better about your pathetic little life. Advertising for a company that doesn't even know you exist so you can make yourself feel better about what you bought. You literally have no life outside of wojak memes and 4chan. You are the epitome of a failure.
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>>71404568
Nice projection, Intel marketeer.
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>>71404568

>You literally have no life outside of wojak memes and 4chan.
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Let's go over the facts, shall we:
Intel
>some vulnerabilities found, but ALL of them have since been patched
>Intel ME has been locked down, audited by security experts, and is no longer a security risk
>patches have NEGLIGIBLE impact on gaming
>storage IO takes a slight hit
>much higher clocks (better for older games)
>much lower core and cache latencies (very important for gaming)
>more industry-adopted instruction sets, better optimization in Unreal Engine, Unity, Frostbite, etc.
>uses less power-per-clock and has better frequency-to-voltage characteristics (why Intel will always hit 5.0GHz and AMD will never be able to)

AMD
>Ryzenfall and 12 other vulnerabilities STILL NOT COMPLETELY FIXED
>PSP has been fully compromised and gives attackers complete access to all parts of an AMD CPU; AMD REFUSES TO DISABLE PSP ON ANY RYZEN CPU
>has performance loss with its already lower IPC (turning a shit hatchback into a shittier hatchback)
>literally slower NVMe throughput by default because AMD can't into IO queuing optimizations
>lower clocks than Intel's First Gen Core architecture
>almost twice or three times the latency depending on which cores are accessing which cache; made even worse with multi-die Ryzens (like all of the Ryzen 3000s)
>literally no one optimizes for AMD's instruction sets; locked out of the instruction sets the games industry uses
>uses far more power per watt because Infinity Fabric eats power the higher you clock it (guess what was exponentially increased on Ryzen 3000...)

Other notes - PCIe Gen 4 literally doesn't matter
>storage IO loss literally doesn't matter for gaming because 99.99% of games doesn't come close to using a tenth of an NVMe drive's IO throughput
>4K 144hz gaming doesn't even saturate PCIe 3.0 x8
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>>71404589
>facts
kek, every single time
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>>71404580
I could care less what hardware i use. I do my own research on what i buy and what i use it for.
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>>71404598
Whatever you say, schlomo.
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Intel cope list 2019

>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Productivity doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Performance per watt doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>Locked CPUs don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>Anti-competitive business practices don't matter!
>Locked platform features don't matter!
>Synthetic loads don't matter!
>PCI-e lanes don't matter!
>Burnt pins don't matter!
>Heat doesn't matter!
>1771w cooler doesn't matter!
>Server space doesn't matter!
>ECC support doesn't matter!
>Free RAID doesn't matter!
>NVMe RAID doesn't matter!
>StoreMI doesn't matter!
>IPC doesn't matter!
>7nm doesn't matter!
>StoreMI doesn't matter!
>HEDT doesn't matter!
>Stock coolers don't matter!
>Security doesn't matter!
>Games don't always matter!
>Enterprise doesn't matter!
>Hyperthreading doesn't matter!
>VMware doesn't matter!
>MySQL doesn't matter!
>Unix doesn't matter!
>Linux doesn't matter!
>Waffer yields don't matter!
>Benchmarks after full patches don't matter!
>Asian markets don't matter!
>Own fabrics doens't matter!
>Chipset lithography doesn't matter!
>Cray doesn't matter!
>Cisco doesn't matter!
>HPE doesn't matter!
>AZURE doesn't matter!
>5nm doesn't matter!
>TDP doens't matter!
>10nm doesn't always matter!
>Cache doesn't matter!
>Integrated graphics doesn't matter!
>PCI-Express 4.0 doesn't matter!
>Germany doesn't matter!
>Processors doesn't matter!
>Custom Foundry Business doesn't matter
>Framerate doesn't matter!
>Amazon sales don't matter!
>Prime95 AVX doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Large corporations don't matter!
>*NEW* Your DATA doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Context switch duration doesn't matter!
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>>71404634

>Continues to open wojak folder.

I'll pray for you anon and your autism
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>>71404589
you're like those jewish journalists who """"""fact""""" check trump
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>>71404706
You look like an AMD shill who is in denial.
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>>71404718
ur nose is showing
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>>71404734
Yes, call me names because you're shilling shit products and have to cope with facts that prove your stance wrong.
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https://www.notebookcheck.net/16-core-AMD-Ryzen-Matisse-processor-amasses-monumental-multi-core-score-on-Geekbench-that-puts-Intel-s-18-core-i9-9980X-to-shame.423832.0.html

The i9-9980XE scored 46,618 points in the multi-core benchmark, which is a very respectable result. But the Matisse processor’s tally of 61,072 puts it in another league.

Ohnononononono
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>>71404777
Jesus why does AMD have to release 3950x in September? If they released all of them at once I'd get it, now I'm forced to get the 3900x because I can't stand the wait.
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>>71404653
Maximum cope
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>>71404777
>64MB Cache
>25MB Cache
Which one would perform better in a cache intensive Benchmark I wonder?
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>>71404718
>>71404747
Post your nose.
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>>71404902
Not AMD's fault Intel is so jewish with their cache.
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>>71404777
The ryzen was locked at 4.3 on all cores for this test. A i9-9980XE on 4.3 on all cores does like 59000 in geek bench. It's still lower but it's not the 47K on stock. The single core is really shit on the intel in this case though
I wonder how the 3950x does stock without any all core clock
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>>71404902
Cope
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>Large cache
>A good thing
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>>71404953
>The single core is really shit on the intel in this case though
delid dis
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>>71383242
Cringe
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>>71404957
>I have literally no idea what I'm talking about
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>>71404954
>>71404939
Good, convince the goy to mindlessly consume.
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>>71405040
probably
>latency
or something
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>>71404939
It is your fault for hyping a retarded Benchmark that is sensitive to cache as real world performance.
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>>71404822
>If they released all of them at once I'd get it, now I'm forced to get the 3900x because I can't stand the wait.
Then resell the 3900x immediately? I could sell it for $50-$100 less than msrp. It's only a two-three month wait.
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>>71405058
Good goy, buy Intel.
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>>71405093
>MUH GAAAAAAAAAAAAYYMMMMSSSSSSSSS
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>>71405250
>a 12 core cpu outperformed by 8 core cpu
kek
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>>71405305
>More vulnerabilities = better
kek
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>>71405373
What are you even talking about?
It's amd that's vulnerable to everything, Intel released security patches instantly and AMD still hasn't bothered for obvious reasons lmao.
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>>71405250
Great. Until its confirmed by independent reviewers, I don't believe shit.
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>>71405409
Why can't Intel stop being so pozzed?
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>>71405195
Excellent, buy both! We don't need to bother deciding which is best when they both are for sale. You don't need one computer do you goy? You need two, maybe three?
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>>71405457
Larger market share = people more interested in exploiting it. But that's a good thing since Intel's actions are appropriate, literally ALL of them received security patches immediately. The same cannot be said about AMD, they haven't bothered to fix a single vulnerability, the performance hit would be way too high for them. Also PSP is fully compromised.
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Guys which one should I get for my gaming PC
Is 8 cores enough
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Holy shit I'm getting 12 fps encoding x265 where before I was getting 9fps. Did Windows' scheduler really improve this much in 1903? Still piledriver here.
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>>71405494
Maybe if you keep posting it, then it will become true. How does it feel having more than 100 vulnerabilities because you sacrificed security for performance? I can't even imagine people unironically saying without being shareholders or paid shills, what even compels you to defend such an evil company?
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>>71405637
>amd
>1
ahahah
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>>71405494
Take a hike, kike.
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>>71405637
>More is better
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>>71390194
>pay more for higher TDP, lower frequency and less cache
intel really can't compete
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>>71405637
>1
I can name 2
Ryzenfall and Spectre
Your pic has been proven wrong.
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>>71405494
Intel is still infinitely more pozzed, for one AMD vulnerability you'll find infinitely more on Intel.
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>>71406027
Intel released patches for all of the vulnerabilities. ALL OF THEM. Intel is pozz free.
AMD has only released a patch for Chimera. Rest of the 12 AMD vulns remain unpatched.
Now ask yourself which CPU is more pozzed.
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>>71406047
Intel security flaws can't be fixed they're too severe. You've been lied to.
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>>71406069
Lmao you're retarded.
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>>71406047
Exactly, just how they disabled HT in the announced chips because it totally wasn't an insecure mess.
Anon, please short your stock.
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OH NO NO NO
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>>71406316
Even if you missed the $1.6 train, this is still a good buy desu.
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>>71406434
Don't say this, anon. You'll expose your brethren that shill every day here.
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>>71406316
Buy high sell low, retard
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>>71388475
so the goto-combo for tdp-fanatics is now amd cpu + nvidia gpu?



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