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CPUs based on current prices
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming
>R3 2200G - Light 30-60fps gaming(dGPU optional). 2400G if you want a CPU which can last into a GPU upgrade
>i5 9600K/9400F - Good 60fps+ gaming & multithreaded use
>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarks
>i7 9700K - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform
>i9 7900X - HEDT

>Avoid AMD if doing serious high FPS gaming
>BE AWARE that Microsoft, Apple, and others recommend disabling hyperthreading on Intel CPUs. Be aware that Intel tried to bribe researchers to delay releasing the vulnerability by an extra 6 months so they could do another stock sell off and release you scam 10th gen CPUs with HT.

RAM
>NEVER use only a single stick
>8GB - very light use, and/or if you don't mind closing programs regularly
>16GB - standard amount. If you have to ask if you need more, you don't
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2800MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formula

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
1080p
>RX 570/580 - value.
>1660 - Slightly better perf for more demanding games on high/maxed 60fps+;
> 1660Ti / 1070 / Vega56 - higher framerates
1440p (WQHD)
>1070Ti / Vega - 60-120fps+ in most games on high/maxed
>2070 Overclocked or Radeon VII - Worth considering
>2080Ti - higher framerates
2160p (4k)
>Radeon VII - weaker than 2080ti
>RTX 2080Ti - good, but poor value.

Other
>Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
>Consider 75hz display minimum; 60hz are old models
>PLAN BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>AIOs don't change the laws of thermodynamics

https://rentry.co/pcbg-more

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any good 2600x deal out there?
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>>70980338
i want to nakadashi nanami-chan
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When are we going to know if it's worth waiting for the 3080?
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>>70980338
>>>/v/
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>>70980551
if the RX 680 has less than 50% more frames on average than the 1070, then it's a instant wait for me
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>>70980613
Go take your low effort shitpost back there
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>tfw 1440p 144hz 27 VN
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I'm the same anon asking about if I should upgrade my vega64 because of hellblade performance (and worry about performance is newer games). I mentioned that I had stuttering in re2 remake. 1440p maxed out settings. It would randomly drop to like 30 or 40 fps for a second or two. I had the same issues in hellblade even when running on low. webm related. any ideas?
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>intlel is ded
>amdumb is "wait for zen2"

nice times to build a pc
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>another shill OP
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>>70980779
My idea to remove all the brands from the OP was best. But the shills on both sides thinks that just putting there names in the OP will lead to more sales.
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>>70980338
>>Avoid AMD if doing serious high FPS gaming
Avoid intel CPUs in literally every other task. Why is OP filled with all intel shit especially after YET ANOTHER major security vulnerability was uncovered that Intel attempted to pay hush money to downplay?
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What is this joke of an OP?
Are you the literal paid pajeet intel shill?
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>>70980747
Also
>AMD cards only offer midrange performance and require their own power plant
>Nvidia cards with high performance are overpriced to hell and back thanks to performance monopoly and dedicated cores just for poopersampling and raytrashing, also Nvidia are as uncoorporative as ever
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>>70980779
>>70980807
>>70980808
Intel shitters are working overtime, damage control and all that.
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>>70980711
But can it do G-Sync and 3D Vision?
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>for games
i5 9400f, R5 2600X, or wait for 3rd gen Ryzen?
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>>70980863
Wait and see what Zen2 is like, there's only like 10 days. Zen+ should be going on sale more around then too.
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Would buy a GTX 1670 if it existed. Don't wanna pay extra for useless sampling and tracing in the RTX 2070, and the 1660 Ti just isn't quite enough of an upgrade over my GTX 970. Twice the frames would be nice. Take note, Nvidia.
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>>70980831
at least Huang doesnt compromise your security while trying to sell you outdated tech
but again, "wait for Navi" and RTX refresh and price drop... 2 more months
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I put together my pc in early 2015, so I'm thinking it might be time to put some new pieces in it. I need some advice on my cpu and gpu though. I live in the benelux, if that matters.

gpu: R9 280 3gb. I paid around 150 or so euro for it back in the day. I'm not looking for anything more than 1080p gaming, so I'd probably be fine with another budget card, but I haven't kept up with what's on the market at all.
cpu: i5-4440. It honestly feels fine. Do I even need to upgrade this if 1080p gaming is about the most intensive thing I do?
I'm also gonna get an extra 8gb of ram to get to 16gb total, and a 500gb ssd to run alongside my current hdd. I'm looking to (ideally) spend a max of 400 euro.

Also, probably a stupid question, what's a way to pinpoint which part of my pc is making noise? I'm pretty sure one of the fans and/or the hdd is pretty noisy at idle, but I haven't checked which one exactly yet. I want to say it's the gpu fans, because it gets realy noticibly louder when I'm running a game.
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>>70980863
WAIT
Otherwise go full retard with the cheapest config, which is probably intel since you can pull it off with el cheapo mobo and ram and get the same gayman experience
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>>70980903
2060 cost is about proportional to its performnace gains over 1660
also you've waited too long instead of selling your card on ebay and buying Pascal
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>>70980962
>what's a way to pinpoint which part of my pc is making noise?
Try each component one at a time and see. If you suspect the HDD, move a big fat file from one place to another. If you think it's the GPU, run a benchmark or something.
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>>70980338
why does amd have 0 matx boards that are good
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Are bottleneck sites trustworthy? 2400G & 1070 pairing shows 15-20% bottleneck with minor FPS loss. Should I get 1060 6GB in that case, because I won't upgrade CPU and RAM (2x4GB at 2666MHz) until fall?
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>>70981059
Is the site trying to sell you anything via referral links? Then no.
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>>70980338
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>>70980962
CPU will bottleneck any new card. There's some room for doing things in your budget, for example you could buy an i5-4690K from Ebay and a Radeon RX 590 and sell the 4440 for forty bucks afterwards, but I don't know whether this will run a risk of blowing up your motherboard chipset if overclocked, or blowing up your power supply.
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>>70980338
Because OP is hiding the best option for most people:

Get a 2700 or 2600 and a used EVGA 1080ti for 450 with a couple years of warranty remaining. Built my 2700 1080ti 32GB RAM for sub $1k USD. If you do any video editing, 32GB RAM is worth it, and you will use it, plus you can get a decent 3200/C16 32GB kit for around 120 now if you look around, so there's no reason to be stingy about it.
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What do you thing /PCBG/? Bout to pull the trigger on this
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>>70981073
I used pc-builds.com & gpucheck.com and both recommended to get at least 16GB of RAM to work well and better CPU, but all I want is to play Nier Automata and Sekiro 1080p/60fps without huge framedrops and stuttering.
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>>70980746
>listened to the shills and got vega
you have only yourself to blame.
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Any recommends about monitors which have high dpi?

What do you think about DELL P2415Q?
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>>70981172
IEEE says the point of hard diminishing returns is 2 pixels/arcsec, with 1/arcsec being the point of soft diminishing returns. Buy accordingly.
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>>70981191
Do you troll me?
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>>70981140
>3.5'' drive
get a 1TB SSD instead
>RX 580
that card is worthless, go for the Vega 56
>R5 2600
2600x or bust
>3000mhz
go for 3200mhz, not much of a price difference, don't forget to check it the mobo supports it though
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>>70981201
No? They did testing on it since one would logically think the limit is at 1 pixel/arcsec but the point of hard diminishing terms in sensation of realness was found to be at 2 instead.
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Is there some site where I can compare my computer stats, so I know that they work fine together?
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>>70981221
Recommend me monitors, please. Which would you buy?
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>>70981242
How far do you sit from your monitors?
Do you intend to watch any 4K UHD blu rays on it?
Do you do photography work or video work in the DCI-P3 colour space?
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>>70981208
fuck off im broke
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>>70981257
I think I sit not really far. <1m always probably.

And yeah, I will buy 4k only
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>>70981260
Then keep saving, faggot. Budget builds aren't worth it.
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>>70980711
hope that mount is very sturdy and flexible
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>>70981131
How bad of a bottleneck are we talking? I'm expecting 1080p at 60fps at most, so my requirements aren't exactly sky high.

I've been browsing ebay for cheap ram and gpu's, but I've never bought pc components second hand before and I'm a bit wary of doing so.
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>>70981257
I want a very decent monitor for work as a programmer.

Sometimes I play FPS games.
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>>70981353
if its only fps games you could look for 144 or 240hz 1080p monitors, affordable and very life like, plus its not hard to max them with a mid tier card
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>>70980338
is she drinking tea or coffee?
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>>70981438
I can buy it as a second monitor for FPS games tho, thanks

But I'h buy an IPS 4k monitor too
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>>70981150
Do you have an actual useful response?
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>>70981480
>2070OC or R7
>implying the 2070 competes
R7 shits on the 2070, fuck off.
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>>70981260
Try the used market then
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>>70981278
>1080p/60fps builds aren't worth it
????
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>>70981208
>Vega 56
Why this over the 1660ti?
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>>70981629
>4gb VRAM in 2019
>1080p/60fps
you know what, go ahead and pull the trigger, it's tiresome dealing with idorts
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wats better for gaems
2600x or 2700?
i can OC manually n shit
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>>70981681
Yeah? 2600X + 580 does that fine? Especially for non-AAA games.
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>>70981693
grab the 2600x, no advantages whatsoever in the 2700/x for gaming
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>>70981584
I do, but not for people like you. You dug your own grave, who am I to undo your hard work.
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>>70981705
Whatever, it's your money, not mine.
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>>70981716
Grab the 2600, it's the exact same as the X once you overclock it

Unless you really really want the stock cooler that comes with the 2600X
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>>70981755
im not him dude
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>>70981768
>it's the exact same as the X once you overclock it
Oh please, stop being delusional. Most 2600 can't even hit 4.0.
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>21 minutes of Dead by Daylight on Ultra 1440p
>Radeon VII
>pic related
Daily reminder that people on /pcbg/ shouldn't believe the intel hindu lies.
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>>70981257
At 60cm from a screen, whats the optimal resolution/size combos for 24inch and 27inch?
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>>70981746
Go home Jensen
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>>70981846
>uses 5.5GB of VRAM
yep you are right, nobody should be scammed into beliving 6GB is not enough and that only vega is their option at 1440p let alone 1080p.
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>>70981846
>doesn't include the gpu name
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All New GPU Architecture in 7nm with "Navi"
So what did AMD mean by this?
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>>70981924
AMD falling for the raytracing meme.
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>>70981898
pic related

>>70981876
To be fair, dead by daylight probably isn't the most demanding of all games, but whatever you say chief.
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Is there a way to test if a PSU works without hooking it up to a pc?
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>>70981981
This is 1H29M of browsing and watching netflix.
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>>70982047
They sell kits for it.
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Putting EK waterblocks on two evga RTX gpus. Blue squares is where EK manual suggests putting thermal pads on the backplate. Top piece is the original plate.

It seems that evga puts pads where the capacitors are on the bottom of the board, while EK puts them where mosfets and such are on the top of the board.

Should I be concerned about this? The evga backplate has more than enough thermal pads, I could reuse them.
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>>70981981
>hotspot 95C
I can see why you tried to hide it. Even with an undervolt it still is hot.
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I have this old guy, I've tested the power supply and it works. I'm trying to upgrade and keep the costs down so I'm wondering I can keep the power supply, the case and the DVD reader (not shown) the motherboard is a micro ATX ASRock B450M. Will I be able to fit that shit into this case?
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>>70980338
>advising anyone to buy intel
lol
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>>70982330
>hotspot
It doesn't thermal throttle until 115* big dawg, it's not the same as edge temp, which was 73* max and 67* avg.

Gotta learn your stuff.
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>>70982421
j-j-just disable HT bro who even cares if your i9 is now an i7 right?
This is definitely the last exploit, no way there will be any more now right?
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>>70982455
Forgot to mention that the gpu and chassis fans were limited to 40% for silence as well.
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>>70982455
lol my card stays at 61 while at 33% fan speed and being inaudible.
You have to undervolt, fuck around and its still audible and still hot.
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>>70982455
are you trying to kill your gpu?
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>>70982490
>61*
So 6* cooler.
>its still audible
You can't possibly know if it is or isn't.
>and still hot
Except it isn't.

It's time to stop posting, friend.
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rate me build

the 1080 is placeholder for a used one @300 moneys
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>>70981438
Asus 24.5" XG258Q TN 1920x1080 240Hz FreeSync 400cd/m2 16:9

So, is this monitor good?
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>install included standoff screws for vesa mount for monitor
>manage to strip the socket threads using nothing but my fingers and weak, skinny, malnourished arms
Seriously?
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>>70982470
I still have HT enabled on my 9900k and haven't noticed anything
This new meme is shit
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>>70982166
EVGA is known for going overboard with thermal pads. Why not just use the original backplate?
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>>70982648
Welcome to MODERN MANUFACTURING
AKA "It's fine so long as it just looks like a normal metal screw, right?"
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>>70982686
True, but it's not my computer or parts. If it has itself some melty metal time and fizzles, I don't want them coming to me about it.
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>>70982541
>So 6* cooler.
?
>You can't possibly know if it is or isn't.
I can easily look up youtube videos of people running the radeon 7 at the RPM that is shown in your little screenshot.

>It's time to stop posting, friend.
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>>70982722
Then take a guitar pick and gently transplant the extra thermal pads onto the new backplate.
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>>70982772
>easily look up
Ok, link me one that has it running at 1600rpm and show me how loud it is, I'll wait.
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>>70982650
That all it is, Is a meme. I'm still getting full performance and benchmarks are still the same.
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>>70982786
>Guitar pick
I never thought of that. Thanks, Anon.
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>Corsair CXM
>SeaSonic FOCUS
>Coolermaster MasterWatt
>BitFenix Formula
>Antec Neo ECO Classic NE550C
>Fractal Design Integra M
>Thermaltake Hamburg
>be quiet! Pure Power 11

tell me which are superior.
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>>70982859
There is unironically a good tier list on linus tech tips forums.
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>>70982798
>easily
It's been more than 10 minutes, anon. Where is your easily found video?
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Is G-Sync worth feature to spend money at?
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I don't have a particularly good PC, I only really want to be able to play games on average graphics settings with good framerates.
I have an i5 3450, 8GBs of RAM, and a GTX 1080, yet it feels like everything runs painfully slowly, even basic programs like internet browsers (it's not my internet connection). Is my PC really that outdated or is it something else (software bloat, poor ventilation, dust accumulation, etc.)? It's gotten so bad I use the task manager religiously, shutting down basically any program I'm not immediately using.
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>>70982937
It's better than freesync but no it's not really worth it
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>>70982650
Isn't it just a security vulnerability? Unless people are visiting the shadiest of sites I don't think there should be an issue.
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>>70982951
Thanks. The gap between prices is $34.
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>>70982945
Your specs are fine. Something else is wrong.
Check temps to make sure you're not overheating and try a format and reinstall.
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>>70982987
If you are paying $400-500 for a monitor then $34 more for gsync is worth it. I would spend that much so I don't possibly run into flickering issues with freesync on nvidia + have the ability to use ULMB when I want to.
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>>70982945
Ivy bridge, if your pc is nearly 5 years old or more maybe reapply thermal paste to the heatsink. This was mine after 8 years, a sandy bridge i5.
Was definitely getting throttled by the heat shooting straight up, and idling way beyond what it gets now under load. Also switched out the stock heatsink for a hyper 212 just to amuse myself.
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>>70983004
actually I checked and most of the components are running at 95-100 degrees Fahrenheit, that's probably not good.
>>70983046
I actually had to re-apply thermal paste to the CPU because it was running way, way higher. I think my fans might not be working right.
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>>70983062
>Fahrenheit
That would be fine. It's 95-100C that's the limit.
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>>70983062
The air coming out of it isn't that hot, I'll open the case and see if it might be dust or if one of the fans isn't working.
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>>70983028
Much appreciated, anon. Have a good day.
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>>70983062
100F shouldn't be a problem, 100C would be. Using CoreTemp or something?
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>>70983073
Yeah, that's what the CPU was running at when I changed the thermal paste. If it's not temperature, do you think it might be software bloat? I have malwarebytes, revo uninstaller, wise registry cleaner, wise disk cleaner, CCleaner, and I run them all regularly.
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>>70983117
Am I just insane or does it normally take most programs several minutes to load? My PC could be fine and I'm just expecting way too much.
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Currently having issues with a multi-gpu, multi-monitor build, I have a RTX 2060 and a 780ti installed on my system but for some reason the GPU only sends the signal to the monitor if it's installed the closest to my CPU, both are installed on PCIE 3.0 slots, and I think my PSU should be large enough to handle both GPUs (it's an 850W PSU).

What could be the issue here? Or what steps should I take to narrow down the issue? I'm fairly certain that the BIOS POSTs because I can use my caps lock / num lock key even though I don't see anything on the monitors.
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>>70983147
Use Crystaldiskinfo to check hard drive health and Crystaldiskmark for speed.
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>>70983147
Maybe it's time for an SSD?
I know my rig could use the upgrade.
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>>70983148
Your first PCIe slot is probably a x16 slot, while lower down ones aren't. That's probably what's causing the issues
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>>70983148
Oh, btw, if I connect a single DisplayPort cable to the GPU that's the closest to my CPU, I do get a monitor signal, and I can see the other GPU in WIndows/Linux

The issue happens when I connect the monitors like this:

Monitor1 <--> 780ti DisplayPort
Monitor2 <--> 780ti DVI

Monitor1 <--> RTX 2060 DisplayPort
Monitor2 <--> RTX 2060 HDMI

If I set them up like this, I get no signal at all, on any monitor.
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>>70983164
that was what I was thinking, I just have a SATA hard drive and it's pretty close to full, it's the only component other than the motherboard I haven't upgraded.
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>>70982798
>>70982914
First off:
>thinks I sit in this thread 24/7 just to have kiddie fights with retards
>thinks I don't go and do something else and check on this thread from time to time.

Boy you are a retarded nigger.

https://youtu.be/BcL5kbLFBdA?t=50

Second:
>Ok, link me one that has it running at 1600rpm and show me how loud it is, I'll wait.
It says 1920RPM on your picture here >>70981981
and here >>70981846

But the fact you are spamming smug anime girls already tells everybody you are in some kind of desperate damage control cope mode.
Either that or you are literally false flagging and doing this on purpose to make the radeon 7 look bad and amd users like fags.
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>>70983169
I think you may be right, I'm setting this up on an Asrock Z77 Pro4 motherboard, which doesn't appear to have two PCIE 3.0 slots

Maybe connecting the RTX2060 in the PCIE3.0 and the 780ti on the PCIE2.0 slot would fix things?

Right now they are arranged in the opposite way, possibly the RTX2060 doesn't support PCIE2.0 anymore due to how new it is.
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>>70983233
>Maybe connecting the RTX2060 in the PCIE3.0 and the 780ti on the PCIE2.0 slot would fix things?
Can't hurt to try. If it doesn't work you're kinda SOL, it's an old board.
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>>70980873
underrated lol
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>>70982867
I take it you mean this one? https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1045610-new-psu-tier-list/?page=1

In that case the BitFenix Formula Gold, Cooler Master MWE Gold 550 and Corsair TX-M Series TX550M V2 look the best in the €60-70 price range.

I'm too stupid to use my own brain and think for myself, so anyone willing to break this tiebreaker?
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>>70983226
>I COULD EASILY FIND IT!!!!
>takes an hour
>doesn't know the difference between peak and average
>gets mad about anime on a chinese cartoon enthusiast board
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>>70981138
Yeah let's bottleneck a 1080ti with ryzen......
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>>70983308
That's the one. I would personally go with the CM out of those 3.
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>>70983277
Thanks, anon, that seems to have done the trick, now I got another issue with the monitor output, but it should be solvable.
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How do I know what's a good SSD?
Is this an OK one?
I don't know what things are
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>>70983359
Alright, CoolerMaster MWE Gold it is. Thanks lad.
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>>70983437
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156187
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>>70983359
>go read a few dozen reviews
>half says it's perfect, 5*
>other half says they all got theirs DOA, 1*
uh-oh
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>>70983353
>getting a 1080ti to play at 1080p
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>>70980338
I'm scared I won't buy everything required for my PC (cables, etc) and then I'll have to order the missing parts and by the time I do the 30 day warranty will be void.

What's even the point of building a PC with new parts? It's about the same price as a pre-built PC but I want to do it for learning and because it's fun.

I'm scared parts won't be compatible with each other by accident or terrible things will go wrong or ill waste my money somewhere in the process.

Reeeeee
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>>70983547
Solution:
Do research
Ask INFORMED, REASONED, NECESSARY questions on /g/'s friendly /pcbg/ - PC Building General thread
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>>70983541
A lot of people are retarded and brick their shit then blame the item. Hard to go off of reviews on newegg.
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>>70983547
It's very unlikely you'll get incompatible parts unless you've done something really really stupid. In any case you can just post a shopping list here or elsewhere and people will at least make sure you didn't do something completely retarded.
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>>70983547
Everything you need cables for is going to come with the cables it needs

Make sure your PSU has the right connector for your GPU (8 pin or 6 pin) and everything else will just werk

Belieb in yourself
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>tfw you realize madobe-chan will die in less than a year from now.
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I'm currently using a 4690k with 8gb ddr3 and a 1070. Will I notice an improvement in my games if I upgrade CPU and ram? I basically don't know whether or not I'm bottlenecking at the moment, most games run perfectly but I'll lose frames in games like total war warhammer, and I don't know if they could be described as "CPU intensive". An upgrade to 16gb would be nice because chrome vores all my ram, but is an upgrade of the rest of the build justified based solely on performance?

1440p btw
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>>70983620
OLD AND BUSTED. 10 is the new hotness. She always knows what you want, whether you know it yet or not.
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>>70983575
>post on /g/
>your parts are terrible
>switch to this other brand I like better
>repost build with changes to see what happens
>terrible, switch back to this
>endless nitpicking over arbitrary preferences
>no real advice
I'm half joking. That's a litle hyperbolic of me to say, I will post my build here soon and see if it's okay
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>>70983637
according to old reviews, yes. That game is def CPU intensive and an upgrade would be worth it for you. Overall games are moving towards using more and more cores/threads so a 4c4t i5 will hold back that 1070 more as time goes on.
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>>70983666
>>70983637
forgot to post the link to the review like an idiot.

https://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-warhammer-benchmarks-strike-fear-into-cpus/
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>>70983685
By the same review a 1080 can barely surpass 60fps at 1440p ultra so his 1070 would be equally limiting.
He can do a mild OC on the CPU which should help.
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>>70983711
true, but if you look at the 5930k and his processor, there's like a 20fps difference in the lows at 1080p from what I could see.
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>>70980338
>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarks

huh? what's that all about?
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>>70983666
>>70983685
>>70983711
Good insight, I'll probably wait around and see what the new ryzen has to offer. Thanks
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How many nvidia gtx 970s do i have to sli together to equal a really good modern card?
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>>70983822
why would you? the power consumption would be devastating to your powerbill.
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So with the recent news regarding Intel CPUs how is the i7-8700k affected and where does it stand among ryzen and newer Intel chips?
I was considering that or a 2600X for my build.
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>>70983822
Two.
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>>70983840
970 doesn't use that much power.
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>>70983853
It does when you use 4.
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>>70983845
The 8700k is the significantly faster chip but it also costs more. Not really a straight comparison.
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I'm trying to play at 1440p@144hz on a fairly old system, an i7 2600 and DDR3 1333mhz RAM, I get decent framerates at 1440p (~100 FPS) on CPU-intensive games like PUBG, and I'd like to know if I'm getting some sort of bottleneck, which I probably am.

If I play at 1080p and 1440p, I basically get the same framerates despite the huge bump in resolution, is this the sign of a CPU bottleneck?
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>>70983871
What about the hyperthreading nonsense currently going on?
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>>70983872
Yes. And probably nothing you can do about it since any system that came with a non-K 2600 probably can't overclock a 2600k or 3770k.
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>>70983840
i might be retarded but doesnt a computer only use as much power as the power supply's wattage? like if i have a 600W power supply, isnt that how much the computer uses?
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>>70983910
No. PSU wattage is the max load it can support.
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>>70983845
8th and 9th gen chips are "immune" to the older exploits but still vulnerable to the latest exploit. This exploit uses hyperthreading as its attack vector and even with the micro-code update for mitigation, people recommend turning off HT to be truly "secure"

honestly at this point Intel is slapping band-aids on bullet wounds and hoping to not completely bleed dry. You're better off waiting for 7nm Ryzen in like a month.
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>>70983910
No. That's how much it has available. How many watts your system consumes actually depends on what parts are inside your system. If you had a system averaging around 315W, a 600W psu would have at least 285 watts to spare.
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>>70983898
That's alright, this system has served me well for several years, I specifically bought this non-K because I wanted virtualization (VT-d and PCI passthrough) features at the time, I still need them nowadays, do new Intel/AMD processors come with the ability to overclock and use VT-d on the same chip?
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>>70983954
yes. AMD does at least. I'm unsure if Intel does. I have virtualization on my R7-1700X and also overclocked to 3.8GHz.
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>>70983930
What a shame. I was aiming to build a little after the 4th of July. Hopefully the new Ryzen shit is really good and still cheaper than a 8700k.

Did they already confirm if the latest AMD mobos will support the new chips?
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>>70983985
I just might make the switch to AMD while I'm at it, seeing all these vulnerabilities like Meltdown, Spectre, and the one that just came out are pushing me to AMD, since you are using AMD, have you seen any downsides to that CPU brand?

It's been a long time since I've researched about CPU specs/features but I guess Intel nowadays is just marketing and shilling?
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>>70984061
At the moment we don't even know when Ryzen 3000 will be realeased exactyl, the presentation slides say Q3 2019. Pretty much all B450 and X470 boards will be compatible in principle but there have been rumors that the new CPUs have some special stuff that only works with the new X570 chipset which could take even longer to be released.
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>>70984091
I see. Well I'll wait to see the new news but the latest I'll stand to wait for a new system is August. I've been putting it off for 4 years now and I finally have the ability to put aside for it.
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>>70983328
Not that anon but you have critical autism. Consider suicide
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>>70984061
most of the flagship AM4 board already launched BIOS support for the latest chips. However the X570 stuff is supposed to have far superior memory compatibility and PCIe 4.0
>>70984084
I've been all over the board. Owned an FX-8350 @ 5.5GHz, then an Intel i5-4690k. Then i7-6700k. Then my current R7-1700X. I haven't had a single issue with my gen1 Ryzen build and I was a day one adopter. Other than growing pains (RAM compatibility mostly), my system has been rock solid and reliable.
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can this do 1440p 144hz?
monitor im thinking about getting is the dell S2719DGF
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>>70982353
Honestly you are not saving that much money by reusing the PSU and case. The disk drive is fine though. The case is pretty ugly honestly and the power supply being old and chinese might not actually be able to handle what it's ""rated"" for.

To answer your question, yes your new motherboard will fit there. In fact there looks to be enough clearance for a high profile heatsink and seems to support full width PCI cards.
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>>70984270
>NOVIDEO
Lmao no, Vega 56 can however
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>>70984270
I'm doing 1440p @ 165HZ with pic related
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>>70984312
>3gb 2080 ti
Doubt
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>>70984312
>>70984394
>2080ti comes in a THREE GB VERSION
what the hell, why would they make that?
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>>70984477
He’s probably a chink. Would explain the AMD shilling
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>>70984312
why do you need 6 terabytes of storage my man
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>>70984394
>>70984477
>>70984528
Here. Speccy was never able to recognize my cards. My 980Ti used to display as 2GB.
>>70984545
120GB for boot
500GB SATA for dedicated recording space
500GB NVME for photo/video editing work space
2TB for game install
2x1TB mechanical drives in RAID 0 for expanded work space

My server has 34TB in it
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>>70984596
nice
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>>70984477
>>70984394
>there are people that still to this day don't understand that speccy is a buggy pile of garbage that cannot read new graphics cards correctly
Spoiler alert: they don't make a 3GB version of the 2080 Ti.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mxJx8Y
A preliminary build ideas before the next ryzen announcement.

Multitasking and gaming @1440p. I would like to at least get 5 years out of this since my current system is 7 years old.
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>>70984672
change the power supply to something cheaper from Seasonic rather than that overpriced Corsair model. Also get a monitor that isn't shit even it means dropping some extra cash. That monitor you chose isn't G-sync and it's only 75HZ.
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>>70980338
Dear /g/ board,
On a scale of 1 - 10, how retarded is this purchase for a gaming rig?
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>>70984802
10
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>>70984744
The monitor is something like a placeholder, 75hz 1440p is the bare minimum. I may get lucky and have the entire cost of the monitor covered by someone else but I included to to complete the build
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>>70984806
Why?
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>>70984826
don't you DARE ruin that Chad's image with your shitposting you fucking Philistine. I will end you. I will fucking kill you.

But for real though, you didn't post a picture or link you stupid...double BAKA
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>FUCK
This is going to make it look 10x as retarded but
OH WELL LOLOLOL

https://www.scorptec.com.au/bundle/CPU/Intel-Socket-1151/294-BX80684I58400plusH310M-GAMING-ARCTICplusHX424C15FBK2-8

gif related
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>>70984672
will do for now, just make sure that excessive cooler fits in your case and this ram fits under it too
forget about it lasting 5 years, but you would be able to swap in a zen2 cpu later if you need
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>>70984869
I'm assuming that's not US pricing because that'd be absolutely horrible if it was. That looks like a shit deal all around honestly. Intel isn't in a good position right now. That board is absolute basic bitch tier, and only 8GB of slow RAM.
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>>70984819
dont worry, nvidia already suppots freesync (even if its not certified for most monitors it works)
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>>70982650
>i spent $200 extra for a 9900k so i could make it a 9700k
proof intel users are brain damaged
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>>70984928
Yeah because everyone could’ve guessed that 6 months ago you autistic chimp.
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>>70984928
Intel:
MUH HYPERTHREADING
AMD:
J-JUST WAIT
Cyrix:
D-DON'T WORRY WE CAN RUN QUAKE NEXT GENERATION!
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So i have a gpu. This is an asus turbo nvidia gtx 970.
I got it for $50 so its sortve a steal, but a steal for a doo doo gpu.

I wanna watercool it for giggles.
can i install a universal water block on it, and leave the mosfet chips bare, with just the stock fins for heat dissipation?

If I cant keep the mosfet chips uncooled, can i keep the stock cooler on the card, and just dremel out holes for the water block pipes?

I sorta think it would look cool, but the sound benefit of water cooling would be wasted.
What yall think? Shitty idea or worth a go?
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>>70984947
ARM: smugface while PC is dying of and everyones on their phones
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>>70985037
Shitty idea to a common man.

Worth a go if you've got a backup GPU.
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>>70985038
RISC-V: Yeah we're the linux of CPUs.
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>>70985037
heres a pic of the card with the plastic cover removed.

the only cooling is the fin block on the gpu, and a fan in the plastic casing.

It would be really easy to just keep the casing on, and use the free empty space to store shit in there, like the water block.
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>>70985044
I have two of the same card.
I was planning on trying it on the shittier one, and if it looks good, or actually performs better, ill do it to the second one too and daisychain my tardcards.
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Of these fan controllers, which is the less shitty?
http://www.phanteks.com/PH-PWHUB_02.html
https://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=526&area=en
https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Categories/Products/CORSAIR-LINK/iCUE-Commander-PRO-Smart-RGB-Lighting-and-Fan-Speed-Controller/p/CL-9011110-WW

I have a mini ITX board with just 2 fan headers (cpu and sys), so I need some kind of controller. Please gib other suggestions.
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>>70984941
TLBleed is unpatched and common knowledge for over a year now, not my fault you are retarded
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Is there any upcoming monitors in 1-2 months that are budget and good?
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>>70984308
Thank you
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Can i use two monitors with different framerates and resolutions?
Id really just want one main gaming monitor and another for various tomfoolery.
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>>70980338
>i5 9600K/9400F - Good 60fps+ gaming & multithreaded use
>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarks
>i7 9700K - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform
>i9 7900X - HEDT


?????????????
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building my pc sunday. going to be using the wraith cooler that comes with the ryzen 7 2700x, testing everything out and seeing how it performs. i dont plan to overclock or anything any time soon and i have the meshify S2 case so airflow should be fantastic. I live in LA so it doesnt get too unbearably hot even in the summer.


all that being said, i still kinda feel weird going with the stock cooler coming from a previous intel user. I do plan to play some newer released games and do some video rendering. should i just bite the bullet and grab a Dark Rock Pro 4? I can pick one up on amazon right now and it will literally be here tomorrow, and i plan to build my PC on sunday. I wanted to save some money but the the back of my mind is telling me to just spend the extra $100 for peace of mind that my CPU will be thoroughly cooled. am i overreacting?
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>>70985339
amd stock coolers are fine
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>>70980338
>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarks
9900k is down up to 40% in performance, not only 9%.
And 9700k isn't high end.

>>70980799
It's better than this one at least.

>>70981055
x399m taichi

>>70981638
>Why this over the 1660ti?
Is the answer to that not obvious?
It's cheaper yet significantly faster.

>>70982937
No Gsync is the same thing and just costs more.

>>70985339
Put on the stock cooler and see how it goes before worrying about it.

>>70985063
I don't understand how you think you'll fit on a water cooler there without removing that heatsink entirely.
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>>70985081
Go for it you absolute madlad.
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>>70984239
>not that anon
Lmao, how more obvious of a samefag could you be?
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>>70985389
>I don't understand how you think you'll fit on a water cooler there without removing that heatsink entirely.

i will remove the heatsink for water cooling.
im just worried that if i use a universal water block, the rest of the card wont be cooled at all, and will overheat.

which is why i want to keep the casing on the card.

the casing isnt attached to the heatsink. The casing has a fan in it that will cool the rest of the card.
To make the casing work with the water cooling, ill just dremel two holes for the pipes.
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>>70985339
It runs fine for the time being. The Wraith Max has 4 heat pipes and a CM fan, so it's actually pretty decent outside of the top tier coolers.
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>>70980746
Sounds more like a HDD issue. Re2 had microstutter until I put it on a SSD.
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>>70985389
>X399 Taichi
Something on AM4, not TR4 pls
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What's worse in computer hardware design, having programmable RGB epic gamer shit or having everything be the darkest most minimalist black possible like my soul?
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>>70985367
>>70985389
>>70985485
much appreciated, thanks for the input guys.
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>>70985527
>What's worse in computer hardware design, having programmable RGB epic gamer shit or having everything be the darkest most minimalist black possible like my soul?
black with red highlights is the worst thing in existence.

then turbofag megacolors is second worse.

pure black isnt that bad.
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is there any performance hit to using 4 sticks of memory instead of 2 sticks to reach the same capacity?
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>>70985527
pure black is kino
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>>70985273
intel shills shitting up the OP since zen 2 is being announced in 10 days
working overtime damage control
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>>70985556
you say that literally every day for 2 years.
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>>70985549
Some memory controllers might struggle with 4 sticks. Unless you need 64GB, go dual channel.
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>>70985552
>>70985548

Real boys passed the test, pure black is best.
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>>70985575
What if I want black with teal accents, am I a fag?
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>>70985566
Because intel shills are on constant damage control, whether it be new ryzen cpus, 10nm delays or more sec vulnerabilities
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is it worth getting 32gb memory for a gaming rig? i know its not really needed right now but it doesnt seem that long ago when 2gb was plenty and now 8gb seems to be bare minimum
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>>70985527
>>70985548
>>70985552
>>70985575
>>70985600
I think we can all agree yellow lighting is the most based, right?
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Which W10 version do I get?

Home? Pro? Enterprise? OEM?
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>>70985775
hahahaha
no, my friend, we will not agree on this.
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the only yellow that should be in your pc is if youre still rocking a dfi lanparty with matching yellow braided ide cables cables
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>>70985485
It's similar to a like $25-$35 cooler afaik.
Sure for $40-$80 you can get better.

Also: that case being half empty is fucking cancer.
That's the Meshify C?
Even a 41L case is so damned oversized now days.

>>70985549
Yes. You won't be able to run 4 as fast as 2 which will reduce performance.
Something like 3-10%.

>>70985786
Pro. But Home isn't much worse. Enterprise I have no idea about.
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>>70985855
>Pro

cool. are the $5 keys from ebay ok?
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What PC should I build for running Android Studio? I5-4440 barely handles the emulator
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>>70986150
Uhh you mean the emulator itself? Nox Player is fast on Ryzen.
Android studio itself is fast on Ryzen.

>>70985873
Yes just buy from a reputable seller who has sold many already.
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in all due honesty is there any reason I am to believe that amd vulnerability simply don't exist?

I'm certain that I regret the i7 8700 I have now but this mess still means I could use a hedt that isn't intel so I could match performance.

the only other way is to take a 40% performance hit, wait 1 month for safe w10 updates and then ~6 months for bios updates to make my intel okay again. is there even any wait that w7 users can cope with this
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if there was any noteworthy amd vulnerability you better believe intel shills would be hammering it home on /g/
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>>70986338
>in all due honesty is there any reason I am to believe that amd vulnerability simply don't exist?
Read the white paper on why AMD is more secure. Yes, it's reasonable to believe that it simply does have 1/10th as many vulnerabilities as Intel, and that those vulnerabilities are far minor and easy to patch.
AMD engineers foresaw possible architectural vulnerabilities and hardened against them whereas Intel willingly, and seriously, cut security for a few % performance gains.

To be fair, your average performance hit is going to be more around 9-18%. 40% is on the extreme end in certain programs you likely don't use. You still should have gotten a 2700X instead. People were warning of HT being defunct at least a year ago.
Just upgrade when Zen2 comes. Some incel will buy your 8700k off you still.
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If this vulnerability has been around since the 2nd gen, how come nothing has come of it until now? Or well, not even anything coming of it, it's only been found by researchers, has it even affected anyone?
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Every part of imouto's pc arrived besides the RAM.
So, I put one 16gb DDR4 3333mhz stick from my own PC, just to try to boot her rig. The CPU cooler starts but the monitor doesn't detect any signal from the GPU.
Her mobo specification says it support 3200mhz(OC) DDR4. Is my RAM too fast for her rig and the reason for it to not even boot?

Here's the build.
mobo: ASRock A320M-HD AM4 mATX DDR4
gpu: Gigabyte RX 570 4gb gddr5
cpu: Ryzen 5 2600X 19MB cache 3.6GHz (4.25GHz Max Turbo) with Wraith Spire cooler
SSD: Kingston 240GB - read: 500MB/s - write 350 MB/s
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 rpm
RAM: HyperX Fury 16GB(2x8gb stick) 3200Mhz DDR4 CL18
Power Supply: EVGA 450W
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>>70986545

idk my intel rig booted up first time. must be amd
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>Lisa Su confirms Q3 launch for Ryzen, Epyc and NAVI
I guess no need to wait and go buy 2700x for my first build, right?
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>>70986368
>if there was any noteworthy amd vulnerability you better believe intel shills would be hammering it home on /g/
We've seen this before where they just make up fake ones and gaslight even when they DON'T exist.

>>70986545
>Her mobo specification says it support 3200mhz(OC) DDR4. Is my RAM too fast for her rig and the reason for it to not even boot?
No, that's not the problem. It'll cycle until it finds bootable timings.

The problem is likely that your A320 board does not support Ryzen 2000 series. You need a bootkit to boot it and update the BIOS to support Ryzen 2000 series. PCPP should have warned you about this but you ignored it.
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i have a single stick of 16gb ddr4 2133. Im considering buying another stick to increase perfomance, should I just buy another one of the stick I have now?
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>>70986667
>PCPP should have warned you about this but you ignored it.
Pretty sure nobody warned me. Anyway, I should have lurked more. Now, I'm fucked.
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>>70986814
>Now, I'm fucked.
A local shop might update it for free or $20.
If not, you can ask AMD to send you a free bootkit though they only do it as a last resort.
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>>70986844
>A local shop might update it for free or $20.
Thanks. I'll try it, tomorrow.
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>>70980338
>Not mentioning Xenon
Literally a 24gh processor that costs less than most core i7 procesors
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>>70986983
Xenon is an element, not CPU.
And not worth it when you can just get Ryzen. Like which Xeon do you even mean where you can get a board and the CPU for better value than Ryzen? You'd need like 12 cores to match the 8/16 of the 2700X and 12 core Xeons and boards aren't cheap.
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i7-4790k worthwhile upgrade from i5 4460?
>inb4 temps
yep
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>Ancient PC with only GTX 970 as a newer part compared to the rest
>GTX 970 shorts

Well boys, fuck this, guess I'm starting over.
I do a ton of emulation and gaming so I need to a decent CPU as well as GPU.
Any idea where to start? Prices are all way way higher in Australia so I need to be a lot more conservative.
I've got really decent DDR3 that's trucking along fine if I can avoid replacing that while upping the other specs a decent amount.
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>>70987010
No. 4790k is basically just a 4670k since the update and a 4670k isn't worthwhile anymore. Need 8 threads minimum, but 6c/12t is more ideal.

>>70987057
1660 and 2600X. Wait for Zen2 if you want to do PS3 emulation. 2700X is decent at it but could be better.
If you're not using an OpenGL emulator, you could go with a 570 or Vega56 for better value instead.
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>>70987068
There's a Gigabyte B450 / 2600 / RX 570 AMD50 Bundle for like ~$550, I guess all I'd need from there is some DDR4, would that be respectable enough you think?
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>>70987089
Uhh I wouldn't recommend a gigabyte board.
You can get the b450 tomahawk + 2600X + 2x8Gb 3200CL16 + RX570 for like what... $105+$170+$80+$130 = $485.
Sure you get the 2700X in the bundle, but it's not really saving you anything.
Plus you sell the games that CPU and GPU comes with for like $90-$110.
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>>70987113
Yeah see those exactly same parts in Australia are a ton more. Hard to imagine getting a 2600x for $170 but I'll look around.
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>>70987068
>No. 4790k is basically just a 4670k since the update and a 4670k isn't worthwhile anymore
you have any other CPU recs then? The motherboard only seems to support a handful of cpus - https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GA-Z97P-D3-rev-10#support-cpu
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recommend me a build for RPCS3, lads
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>>70987146
Oh. That bundle for $550 aud seems pretty good, actually.

>>70987227
2700X and GTX 1660.

>>70987194
You can't get any worthwhile CPU for that motherboard. You'd have to get a new board, CPU, and DDR4.
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>>70987282
>You can't get any worthwhile CPU for that motherboard
Yeah, i figured, i didn't know if any of the others on the list were better and was understanding that the 4790k was the best one there. I don't need/want to splash out on an entirely new everything because i only really need the upgrade for 1 or 2 new-ish games that are CPU hogs (Black Ops 4 primarily). I'm just wondering how big the boost is from my current CPU with it, probably around 20-30%?
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>>70987282
>>70987227
I've heard that Ryzens don't play so well with RPCS3 in particular.
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>>70987227
A ps3
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>>70987296
>I've heard that Ryzens don't play so well with RPCS3 in particular.
Those are simply lies. Incels like to lie. The 2700X is a lot better than the 9600k, and the 9900k no longer exists. 2700X can do 60fps except for some hitches in Persona 5 and shit while the 9600k drops to the 30s. You just have to configure it correctly as you do with any hardware. There are guides you can look at for both and see the performance of both.
Not sure how the 9700k compares, but I'm sure it's hardly worth it. It's not going to be twice as good as the 9600k, obviously.
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MSI B450 > Gigabyte B450?
I assume that's the case from the amount of hate I see Gigabyte getting here.
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>>70987320
What about Demon's Souls?
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>>70987010
no get zen 2 when it comes out
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cheaper and way less hassle to just get a cheap ps3 off gumtree
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>>70987495
if you're going to upgrade anyway then it's not cheaper
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I got a 256GB NVMe SSD that I got for $35 that I don't know what to do with. I already have a 1TB SATA SSD and 2TB HDD that are only half way filled, so I'm pretty content with my storage setup.
Should I just use it as a boot drive and frequent programs?
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ps3 is $50 used you mongoloid
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sell the nvme drive if youre not gonna use it
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>>70980952
>"wait for Navi"
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>>70987572
wrong
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>>70981131
>i5-4690K
>>70980962
dont even bother with another i5, just get an i7 non K like a 4770 for under $150. huge boost from 4440. move OS to an SSD 240gb ~$40 . used matching 8gig ddr3 prob under 30$

leaves about 180-200 for new graphics card. more if you sell old gpu. prob get a gtx1660 and be set for a while
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>>70985389
>>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarks
>9900k is down up to 40% in performance, not only 9%.
explain this
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>>70987597
>buy shitty products because you are a retarded child with 0 impulse control
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>>70987715
>tfw copped a 2080ti for $700
stay mad fgt
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>>70987704
Disabling HT plus the patches lowers performance up to 40%.
You aren't secure without disabling HT. MS and Apple recommend doing so while everyone else is disabling it by default.

Check the news jesus.
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>>70987739
No you didnt and
>15% gen to gen
lmao at least vega was more than 15% better than the fury, keep rationalizing underage
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>>70986667
>The problem is likely that your A320 board does not support Ryzen 2000 series. You need a bootkit to boot it and update the BIOS to support Ryzen 2000 series.

AMD. Not even once.
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>>70986589
>>70987828
You're retarded. With Intel you couldn't even use an old board. Quit trolling and spamming.
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>>70987516
wrong
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>>70987774
>No you
i did, and this was just after launch. some nigger on offerup thought he was fleecing me selling me a "broken" card all i had to do was send it in for RMA and get a new one. lmaoing at him (and you)
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>>70987774
>>15% gen to gen
also
>impling i upgraded from previous gen
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>>70987349
Not him but Demon Souls runs fine. Just make sure you get the latest build because they've finally fixed audio bug. You have to enable it in the ROMs options though.

t. 2700x owner
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Hey I'm installing an OS for the first time(W10), what do I need to know before I install it?

Do I have to set the partitions or whatever they're called?
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So I just finished my new build yesterday.

How can I bullshit the windows 10 activation? I'm not paying 210 bingbongs for that shit
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>>70987945
have you ever bought another version of windows?
if so you can link the license to your windows account then transfer it to your new machine.
or something like that.
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>>70987965
Yeah, I did. That was 5 years ago and that PC, license and key are lost to time now unfortunately.
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>>70987945
autokms
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>>70987928
You'll be able to create a partition while insatlling.
>>70987945
You can buy keys off eBay for like $20. I haven't had issues so far.
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>>70988000
>You'll be able to create a partition while insatlling.
Is there a recommended way to do it? It's a 1TB SSD and the only storage on the pc. should i just do 500/500?
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>>70988000
That was my back up plan. I'll do that.
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>>70988010
Just make one partition with the full amount unless you have a reason for two partitions.
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Could use some guidance.
My motherboard died. So i've decided to upgrade.
Bought a new mobo, cpu (switched from intel to AMD) and ram.
I'm assuming i'll need to do a fresh install of windows. Fine. But how.
My old and now dead system is using two SSDs, one of which has windows on it. But i don't remember which.
How do i go about doing this?
Install windows from a usb and will the windows install process will detect which drive already has windows on it and let me overwrite it?
My old pc is dead so i can't sort all this shit.
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>>70988051
try hooking both to new build and check from BIOS which, and also maybe it'll boot anyways
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>>70988051
I would really do a fresh install of windows. There's a lot of left over config shit that won't update and will make your Ryzen perform worse. Also drivers that a driver cleaner might not properly catch.

You can download the win10 installer from Microsoft's site.

>>70988010
Why do you want to create 2 partitions? Just do the 1 for the full drive.
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>>70988098
>>70988098
>I would really do a fresh install of windows
that wasn't my question dude but thanks
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>>70988116
just have your BIOS boot one SSD first and if it doesn't work boot the other SSD
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>>70988133
but will i be given the option to do a fresh install of windows?
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>>70988163
back in the day the thing you are trying to do would work pretty easily. but now windows 10 assigns a "serial number" basically to every piece it connects to and if that motherboard serial doesnt come up you will have to reinstall windows
there is a mythical workaround but good luck finding it
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>>70988183
ye i think i've got that sorted.
my windows 10 version is linked to my windows account so i think i should be able to reactivate on new hardware.
my issue is how this is going to work with my old SSD which already has windows on it.
is it going to allow me to just overwrite the old install or is it going to format the entire ssd or something.
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>>70988183
>there is a mythical workaround but good luck finding it
Sign into MS account on old hardware, check activation status, should say something along the lines of "activated with digital licence with microsoft account", install windows on new hardware, sign into same MS account.
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>>70980338
I'm buying a Vega 56. Wish I had noticed the Freesync crap on my hdmi only monitor before buying it.
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>>70980338
>>70987770
>You aren't secure without disabling HT. MS and Apple recommend doing so while everyone else is disabling it by default.

>For Windows 10 version 1607, Windows Server 2016 and more recent systems that are not running Hyper-V and are not using VBS-protected security features, customers should not disable HT.
Source:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4457951/windows-guidance-to-protect-against-speculative-execution-side-channel
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new thread

>>70988537
>>70988537
>>70988537
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>>70988423
Interesting. Macs aren't typically using VMs but they still recommend disabling for "full mitigations".
There's also probably more HT vulns which will be coming out of embargo.
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>>70988563
Who knows how many exploits are live and being kept quiet even right now thanks to their bribes.
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Looking for a good 1440p 144hz monitor mostly for gaming on a 450$ budget.
Dont care for gsync/freesync, care more about good colors.
What are some good options /pcbg/ ?
Also in europe if it matters.
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>>70937693
Go drink some bleach, shit for brains.
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>>70988563
L1TF was there since 2018. Now MDS too. As for L1TF..
>It’s technically extremely unlikely and from today’s knowledge even impossible that L1TF can be exploited via the most popular attack mechanisms like JavaScript because these mechanisms have no way to control PTEs. If this would be possible and not other mitigation would be possible, then the default might be different.

Got no idea if the same stuff applies to MDS tho, but since MS recommends disabling HT only for VM, I suspect that it's not that bad for average user and probably just applying updates is enough.
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>>70988638
What I've gathered is that HT makes it a lot easier to exploit. The mitigation patches are enough to make it supposedly impossible with HT disabled, but then it's still possible but difficult with HT enabled.
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>>70985452
Sure kiddo. How does it feel to have extreme autism?
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WTF both my WD 2tb drives aren't showing up anywhere not even on bios
Tried unplugging sata and power, changing cables , changing sata port etc.

What are the odds they both failed at the exact same time? They were 100% healthy when i left a week ago (I left the pc unplugged also)

What could it be?



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