CPUs based on current prices>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming>R3 2200G - Light 30-60fps gaming(dGPU optional). 2400G if you want a CPU which can last into a GPU upgrade>i5 9600K/9400F - Good 60fps+ gaming & multithreaded use>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarks>i7 9700K - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform>i9 7900X - HEDT>Avoid AMD if doing serious high FPS gaming>BE AWARE that Microsoft, Apple, and others recommend disabling hyperthreading on Intel CPUs. Be aware that Intel tried to bribe researchers to delay releasing the vulnerability by an extra 6 months so they could do another stock sell off and release you scam 10th gen CPUs with HT.RAM>NEVER use only a single stick>8GB - very light use, and/or if you don't mind closing programs regularly>16GB - standard amount. If you have to ask if you need more, you don't>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2800MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formulaGraphics cards based on current pricing:1080p>RX 570/580 - value.>1660 - Slightly better perf for more demanding games on high/maxed 60fps+;> 1660Ti / 1070 / Vega56 - higher framerates1440p (WQHD)>1070Ti / Vega - 60-120fps+ in most games on high/maxed>2070 Overclocked or Radeon VII - Worth considering>2080Ti - higher framerates2160p (4k)>Radeon VII - weaker than 2080ti>RTX 2080Ti - good, but poor value.Other>Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard>Consider 75hz display minimum; 60hz are old models>PLAN BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING>AIOs don't change the laws of thermodynamicshttps://rentry.co/pcbg-morePrev: >>70971585
any good 2600x deal out there?
>>70980338i want to nakadashi nanami-chan
When are we going to know if it's worth waiting for the 3080?
>>70980551if the RX 680 has less than 50% more frames on average than the 1070, then it's a instant wait for me
>>70980613Go take your low effort shitpost back there
>tfw 1440p 144hz 27 VN
I'm the same anon asking about if I should upgrade my vega64 because of hellblade performance (and worry about performance is newer games). I mentioned that I had stuttering in re2 remake. 1440p maxed out settings. It would randomly drop to like 30 or 40 fps for a second or two. I had the same issues in hellblade even when running on low. webm related. any ideas?
>intlel is ded>amdumb is "wait for zen2"nice times to build a pc
>another shill OP
>>70980779My idea to remove all the brands from the OP was best. But the shills on both sides thinks that just putting there names in the OP will lead to more sales.
>>70980338>>Avoid AMD if doing serious high FPS gamingAvoid intel CPUs in literally every other task. Why is OP filled with all intel shit especially after YET ANOTHER major security vulnerability was uncovered that Intel attempted to pay hush money to downplay?
What is this joke of an OP?Are you the literal paid pajeet intel shill?
>>70980747Also>AMD cards only offer midrange performance and require their own power plant>Nvidia cards with high performance are overpriced to hell and back thanks to performance monopoly and dedicated cores just for poopersampling and raytrashing, also Nvidia are as uncoorporative as ever
>>70980779>>70980807>>70980808Intel shitters are working overtime, damage control and all that.
>>70980711But can it do G-Sync and 3D Vision?
>for gamesi5 9400f, R5 2600X, or wait for 3rd gen Ryzen?
>>70980863Wait and see what Zen2 is like, there's only like 10 days. Zen+ should be going on sale more around then too.
Would buy a GTX 1670 if it existed. Don't wanna pay extra for useless sampling and tracing in the RTX 2070, and the 1660 Ti just isn't quite enough of an upgrade over my GTX 970. Twice the frames would be nice. Take note, Nvidia.
>>70980831at least Huang doesnt compromise your security while trying to sell you outdated tech but again, "wait for Navi" and RTX refresh and price drop... 2 more months
I put together my pc in early 2015, so I'm thinking it might be time to put some new pieces in it. I need some advice on my cpu and gpu though. I live in the benelux, if that matters.gpu: R9 280 3gb. I paid around 150 or so euro for it back in the day. I'm not looking for anything more than 1080p gaming, so I'd probably be fine with another budget card, but I haven't kept up with what's on the market at all.cpu: i5-4440. It honestly feels fine. Do I even need to upgrade this if 1080p gaming is about the most intensive thing I do?I'm also gonna get an extra 8gb of ram to get to 16gb total, and a 500gb ssd to run alongside my current hdd. I'm looking to (ideally) spend a max of 400 euro. Also, probably a stupid question, what's a way to pinpoint which part of my pc is making noise? I'm pretty sure one of the fans and/or the hdd is pretty noisy at idle, but I haven't checked which one exactly yet. I want to say it's the gpu fans, because it gets realy noticibly louder when I'm running a game.
>>70980863WAIT Otherwise go full retard with the cheapest config, which is probably intel since you can pull it off with el cheapo mobo and ram and get the same gayman experience
>>709809032060 cost is about proportional to its performnace gains over 1660also you've waited too long instead of selling your card on ebay and buying Pascal
>>70980962>what's a way to pinpoint which part of my pc is making noise?Try each component one at a time and see. If you suspect the HDD, move a big fat file from one place to another. If you think it's the GPU, run a benchmark or something.
>>70980338why does amd have 0 matx boards that are good
Are bottleneck sites trustworthy? 2400G & 1070 pairing shows 15-20% bottleneck with minor FPS loss. Should I get 1060 6GB in that case, because I won't upgrade CPU and RAM (2x4GB at 2666MHz) until fall?
>>70981059Is the site trying to sell you anything via referral links? Then no.
>>70980962CPU will bottleneck any new card. There's some room for doing things in your budget, for example you could buy an i5-4690K from Ebay and a Radeon RX 590 and sell the 4440 for forty bucks afterwards, but I don't know whether this will run a risk of blowing up your motherboard chipset if overclocked, or blowing up your power supply.
>>70980338Because OP is hiding the best option for most people:Get a 2700 or 2600 and a used EVGA 1080ti for 450 with a couple years of warranty remaining. Built my 2700 1080ti 32GB RAM for sub $1k USD. If you do any video editing, 32GB RAM is worth it, and you will use it, plus you can get a decent 3200/C16 32GB kit for around 120 now if you look around, so there's no reason to be stingy about it.
What do you thing /PCBG/? Bout to pull the trigger on this
>>70981073I used pc-builds.com & gpucheck.com and both recommended to get at least 16GB of RAM to work well and better CPU, but all I want is to play Nier Automata and Sekiro 1080p/60fps without huge framedrops and stuttering.
>>70980746>listened to the shills and got vegayou have only yourself to blame.
Any recommends about monitors which have high dpi?What do you think about DELL P2415Q?
>>70981172IEEE says the point of hard diminishing returns is 2 pixels/arcsec, with 1/arcsec being the point of soft diminishing returns. Buy accordingly.
>>70981191Do you troll me?
>>70981140>3.5'' driveget a 1TB SSD instead>RX 580that card is worthless, go for the Vega 56 >R5 26002600x or bust>3000mhzgo for 3200mhz, not much of a price difference, don't forget to check it the mobo supports it though
>>70981201No? They did testing on it since one would logically think the limit is at 1 pixel/arcsec but the point of hard diminishing terms in sensation of realness was found to be at 2 instead.
Is there some site where I can compare my computer stats, so I know that they work fine together?
>>70981221Recommend me monitors, please. Which would you buy?
>>70981242How far do you sit from your monitors? Do you intend to watch any 4K UHD blu rays on it?Do you do photography work or video work in the DCI-P3 colour space?
>>70981208fuck off im broke
>>70981257I think I sit not really far. <1m always probably.And yeah, I will buy 4k only
>>70981260Then keep saving, faggot. Budget builds aren't worth it.
>>70980711hope that mount is very sturdy and flexible
>>70981131How bad of a bottleneck are we talking? I'm expecting 1080p at 60fps at most, so my requirements aren't exactly sky high. I've been browsing ebay for cheap ram and gpu's, but I've never bought pc components second hand before and I'm a bit wary of doing so.
>>70981257I want a very decent monitor for work as a programmer.Sometimes I play FPS games.
>>70981353if its only fps games you could look for 144 or 240hz 1080p monitors, affordable and very life like, plus its not hard to max them with a mid tier card
>>70980338is she drinking tea or coffee?
>>70981438I can buy it as a second monitor for FPS games tho, thanksBut I'h buy an IPS 4k monitor too
>>70981150Do you have an actual useful response?
>>70981480>2070OC or R7>implying the 2070 competesR7 shits on the 2070, fuck off.
>>70981260Try the used market then
>>70981278>1080p/60fps builds aren't worth it????
>>70981208>Vega 56Why this over the 1660ti?
>>70981629>4gb VRAM in 2019>1080p/60fpsyou know what, go ahead and pull the trigger, it's tiresome dealing with idorts
wats better for gaems2600x or 2700?i can OC manually n shit
>>70981681Yeah? 2600X + 580 does that fine? Especially for non-AAA games.
>>70981693grab the 2600x, no advantages whatsoever in the 2700/x for gaming
>>70981584I do, but not for people like you. You dug your own grave, who am I to undo your hard work.
>>70981705Whatever, it's your money, not mine.
>>70981716Grab the 2600, it's the exact same as the X once you overclock itUnless you really really want the stock cooler that comes with the 2600X
>>70981755im not him dude
>>70981768>it's the exact same as the X once you overclock itOh please, stop being delusional. Most 2600 can't even hit 4.0.
>21 minutes of Dead by Daylight on Ultra 1440p>Radeon VII>pic relatedDaily reminder that people on /pcbg/ shouldn't believe the intel hindu lies.
>>70981257At 60cm from a screen, whats the optimal resolution/size combos for 24inch and 27inch?
>>70981746Go home Jensen
>>70981846>uses 5.5GB of VRAMyep you are right, nobody should be scammed into beliving 6GB is not enough and that only vega is their option at 1440p let alone 1080p.
>>70981846>doesn't include the gpu name
All New GPU Architecture in 7nm with "Navi"So what did AMD mean by this?
>>70981924AMD falling for the raytracing meme.
>>70981898pic related>>70981876To be fair, dead by daylight probably isn't the most demanding of all games, but whatever you say chief.
Is there a way to test if a PSU works without hooking it up to a pc?
>>70981981This is 1H29M of browsing and watching netflix.
>>70982047They sell kits for it.
Putting EK waterblocks on two evga RTX gpus. Blue squares is where EK manual suggests putting thermal pads on the backplate. Top piece is the original plate.It seems that evga puts pads where the capacitors are on the bottom of the board, while EK puts them where mosfets and such are on the top of the board.Should I be concerned about this? The evga backplate has more than enough thermal pads, I could reuse them.
>>70981981>hotspot 95CI can see why you tried to hide it. Even with an undervolt it still is hot.
I have this old guy, I've tested the power supply and it works. I'm trying to upgrade and keep the costs down so I'm wondering I can keep the power supply, the case and the DVD reader (not shown) the motherboard is a micro ATX ASRock B450M. Will I be able to fit that shit into this case?
>>70980338>advising anyone to buy intellol
>>70982330>hotspotIt doesn't thermal throttle until 115* big dawg, it's not the same as edge temp, which was 73* max and 67* avg. Gotta learn your stuff.
>>70982421j-j-just disable HT bro who even cares if your i9 is now an i7 right?This is definitely the last exploit, no way there will be any more now right?
>>70982455Forgot to mention that the gpu and chassis fans were limited to 40% for silence as well.
>>70982455lol my card stays at 61 while at 33% fan speed and being inaudible.You have to undervolt, fuck around and its still audible and still hot.
>>70982455are you trying to kill your gpu?
>>70982490>61* So 6* cooler.>its still audibleYou can't possibly know if it is or isn't.>and still hotExcept it isn't.It's time to stop posting, friend.
rate me build the 1080 is placeholder for a used one @300 moneys
>>70981438Asus 24.5" XG258Q TN 1920x1080 240Hz FreeSync 400cd/m2 16:9So, is this monitor good?
>install included standoff screws for vesa mount for monitor>manage to strip the socket threads using nothing but my fingers and weak, skinny, malnourished armsSeriously?
>>70982470I still have HT enabled on my 9900k and haven't noticed anythingThis new meme is shit
>>70982166EVGA is known for going overboard with thermal pads. Why not just use the original backplate?
>>70982648Welcome to MODERN MANUFACTURINGAKA "It's fine so long as it just looks like a normal metal screw, right?"
>>70982686True, but it's not my computer or parts. If it has itself some melty metal time and fizzles, I don't want them coming to me about it.
>>70982541>So 6* cooler.?>You can't possibly know if it is or isn't.I can easily look up youtube videos of people running the radeon 7 at the RPM that is shown in your little screenshot.>It's time to stop posting, friend.
>>70982722Then take a guitar pick and gently transplant the extra thermal pads onto the new backplate.
>>70982772>easily look upOk, link me one that has it running at 1600rpm and show me how loud it is, I'll wait.
>>70982650That all it is, Is a meme. I'm still getting full performance and benchmarks are still the same.
>>70982786>Guitar pickI never thought of that. Thanks, Anon.
>Corsair CXM>SeaSonic FOCUS>Coolermaster MasterWatt>BitFenix Formula>Antec Neo ECO Classic NE550C>Fractal Design Integra M>Thermaltake Hamburg>be quiet! Pure Power 11tell me which are superior.
>>70982859There is unironically a good tier list on linus tech tips forums.
>>70982798>easilyIt's been more than 10 minutes, anon. Where is your easily found video?
Is G-Sync worth feature to spend money at?
I don't have a particularly good PC, I only really want to be able to play games on average graphics settings with good framerates.I have an i5 3450, 8GBs of RAM, and a GTX 1080, yet it feels like everything runs painfully slowly, even basic programs like internet browsers (it's not my internet connection). Is my PC really that outdated or is it something else (software bloat, poor ventilation, dust accumulation, etc.)? It's gotten so bad I use the task manager religiously, shutting down basically any program I'm not immediately using.
>>70982937It's better than freesync but no it's not really worth it
>>70982650Isn't it just a security vulnerability? Unless people are visiting the shadiest of sites I don't think there should be an issue.
>>70982951Thanks. The gap between prices is $34.
>>70982945Your specs are fine. Something else is wrong.Check temps to make sure you're not overheating and try a format and reinstall.
>>70982987If you are paying $400-500 for a monitor then $34 more for gsync is worth it. I would spend that much so I don't possibly run into flickering issues with freesync on nvidia + have the ability to use ULMB when I want to.
>>70982945Ivy bridge, if your pc is nearly 5 years old or more maybe reapply thermal paste to the heatsink. This was mine after 8 years, a sandy bridge i5.Was definitely getting throttled by the heat shooting straight up, and idling way beyond what it gets now under load. Also switched out the stock heatsink for a hyper 212 just to amuse myself.
>>70983004actually I checked and most of the components are running at 95-100 degrees Fahrenheit, that's probably not good. >>70983046I actually had to re-apply thermal paste to the CPU because it was running way, way higher. I think my fans might not be working right.
>>70983062>FahrenheitThat would be fine. It's 95-100C that's the limit.
>>70983062The air coming out of it isn't that hot, I'll open the case and see if it might be dust or if one of the fans isn't working.
>>70983028Much appreciated, anon. Have a good day.
>>70983062100F shouldn't be a problem, 100C would be. Using CoreTemp or something?
>>70983073Yeah, that's what the CPU was running at when I changed the thermal paste. If it's not temperature, do you think it might be software bloat? I have malwarebytes, revo uninstaller, wise registry cleaner, wise disk cleaner, CCleaner, and I run them all regularly.
>>70983117Am I just insane or does it normally take most programs several minutes to load? My PC could be fine and I'm just expecting way too much.
Currently having issues with a multi-gpu, multi-monitor build, I have a RTX 2060 and a 780ti installed on my system but for some reason the GPU only sends the signal to the monitor if it's installed the closest to my CPU, both are installed on PCIE 3.0 slots, and I think my PSU should be large enough to handle both GPUs (it's an 850W PSU).What could be the issue here? Or what steps should I take to narrow down the issue? I'm fairly certain that the BIOS POSTs because I can use my caps lock / num lock key even though I don't see anything on the monitors.
>>70983147Use Crystaldiskinfo to check hard drive health and Crystaldiskmark for speed.
>>70983147Maybe it's time for an SSD?I know my rig could use the upgrade.
>>70983148Your first PCIe slot is probably a x16 slot, while lower down ones aren't. That's probably what's causing the issues
>>70983148Oh, btw, if I connect a single DisplayPort cable to the GPU that's the closest to my CPU, I do get a monitor signal, and I can see the other GPU in WIndows/LinuxThe issue happens when I connect the monitors like this:Monitor1 <--> 780ti DisplayPortMonitor2 <--> 780ti DVIMonitor1 <--> RTX 2060 DisplayPortMonitor2 <--> RTX 2060 HDMIIf I set them up like this, I get no signal at all, on any monitor.
>>70983164that was what I was thinking, I just have a SATA hard drive and it's pretty close to full, it's the only component other than the motherboard I haven't upgraded.
>>70982798>>70982914First off:>thinks I sit in this thread 24/7 just to have kiddie fights with retards>thinks I don't go and do something else and check on this thread from time to time.Boy you are a retarded nigger.https://youtu.be/BcL5kbLFBdA?t=50Second:>Ok, link me one that has it running at 1600rpm and show me how loud it is, I'll wait.It says 1920RPM on your picture here >>70981981and here >>70981846But the fact you are spamming smug anime girls already tells everybody you are in some kind of desperate damage control cope mode.Either that or you are literally false flagging and doing this on purpose to make the radeon 7 look bad and amd users like fags.
>>70983169I think you may be right, I'm setting this up on an Asrock Z77 Pro4 motherboard, which doesn't appear to have two PCIE 3.0 slotsMaybe connecting the RTX2060 in the PCIE3.0 and the 780ti on the PCIE2.0 slot would fix things?Right now they are arranged in the opposite way, possibly the RTX2060 doesn't support PCIE2.0 anymore due to how new it is.
>>70983233>Maybe connecting the RTX2060 in the PCIE3.0 and the 780ti on the PCIE2.0 slot would fix things?Can't hurt to try. If it doesn't work you're kinda SOL, it's an old board.
>>70982867I take it you mean this one? https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1045610-new-psu-tier-list/?page=1In that case the BitFenix Formula Gold, Cooler Master MWE Gold 550 and Corsair TX-M Series TX550M V2 look the best in the €60-70 price range.I'm too stupid to use my own brain and think for myself, so anyone willing to break this tiebreaker?
>>70983226>I COULD EASILY FIND IT!!!!>takes an hour>doesn't know the difference between peak and average>gets mad about anime on a chinese cartoon enthusiast board
>>70981138Yeah let's bottleneck a 1080ti with ryzen......
>>70983308That's the one. I would personally go with the CM out of those 3.
>>70983277Thanks, anon, that seems to have done the trick, now I got another issue with the monitor output, but it should be solvable.
How do I know what's a good SSD?Is this an OK one?I don't know what things are
>>70983359Alright, CoolerMaster MWE Gold it is. Thanks lad.
>>70983359>go read a few dozen reviews>half says it's perfect, 5*>other half says they all got theirs DOA, 1*uh-oh
>>70983353>getting a 1080ti to play at 1080p
>>70980338I'm scared I won't buy everything required for my PC (cables, etc) and then I'll have to order the missing parts and by the time I do the 30 day warranty will be void.What's even the point of building a PC with new parts? It's about the same price as a pre-built PC but I want to do it for learning and because it's fun.I'm scared parts won't be compatible with each other by accident or terrible things will go wrong or ill waste my money somewhere in the process.Reeeeee
>>70983547Solution:Do researchAsk INFORMED, REASONED, NECESSARY questions on /g/'s friendly /pcbg/ - PC Building General thread
>>70983541A lot of people are retarded and brick their shit then blame the item. Hard to go off of reviews on newegg.
>>70983547It's very unlikely you'll get incompatible parts unless you've done something really really stupid. In any case you can just post a shopping list here or elsewhere and people will at least make sure you didn't do something completely retarded.
>>70983547Everything you need cables for is going to come with the cables it needsMake sure your PSU has the right connector for your GPU (8 pin or 6 pin) and everything else will just werkBelieb in yourself
>that cute smile.png>tfw you realize madobe-chan will die in less than a year from now.
I'm currently using a 4690k with 8gb ddr3 and a 1070. Will I notice an improvement in my games if I upgrade CPU and ram? I basically don't know whether or not I'm bottlenecking at the moment, most games run perfectly but I'll lose frames in games like total war warhammer, and I don't know if they could be described as "CPU intensive". An upgrade to 16gb would be nice because chrome vores all my ram, but is an upgrade of the rest of the build justified based solely on performance?1440p btw
>>70983620OLD AND BUSTED. 10 is the new hotness. She always knows what you want, whether you know it yet or not.
>>70983575>post on /g/>your parts are terrible>switch to this other brand I like better>repost build with changes to see what happens>terrible, switch back to this>endless nitpicking over arbitrary preferences>no real adviceI'm half joking. That's a litle hyperbolic of me to say, I will post my build here soon and see if it's okay
>>70983637according to old reviews, yes. That game is def CPU intensive and an upgrade would be worth it for you. Overall games are moving towards using more and more cores/threads so a 4c4t i5 will hold back that 1070 more as time goes on.
>>70983666>>70983637forgot to post the link to the review like an idiot. https://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-warhammer-benchmarks-strike-fear-into-cpus/
>>70983685By the same review a 1080 can barely surpass 60fps at 1440p ultra so his 1070 would be equally limiting.He can do a mild OC on the CPU which should help.
>>70983711true, but if you look at the 5930k and his processor, there's like a 20fps difference in the lows at 1080p from what I could see.
>>70980338>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarkshuh? what's that all about?
>>70983666>>70983685>>70983711Good insight, I'll probably wait around and see what the new ryzen has to offer. Thanks
How many nvidia gtx 970s do i have to sli together to equal a really good modern card?
>>70983822why would you? the power consumption would be devastating to your powerbill.
So with the recent news regarding Intel CPUs how is the i7-8700k affected and where does it stand among ryzen and newer Intel chips?I was considering that or a 2600X for my build.
>>70983840970 doesn't use that much power.
>>70983853It does when you use 4.
>>70983845The 8700k is the significantly faster chip but it also costs more. Not really a straight comparison.
I'm trying to play at 1440p@144hz on a fairly old system, an i7 2600 and DDR3 1333mhz RAM, I get decent framerates at 1440p (~100 FPS) on CPU-intensive games like PUBG, and I'd like to know if I'm getting some sort of bottleneck, which I probably am.If I play at 1080p and 1440p, I basically get the same framerates despite the huge bump in resolution, is this the sign of a CPU bottleneck?
>>70983871What about the hyperthreading nonsense currently going on?
>>70983872Yes. And probably nothing you can do about it since any system that came with a non-K 2600 probably can't overclock a 2600k or 3770k.
>>70983840i might be retarded but doesnt a computer only use as much power as the power supply's wattage? like if i have a 600W power supply, isnt that how much the computer uses?
>>70983910No. PSU wattage is the max load it can support.
>>709838458th and 9th gen chips are "immune" to the older exploits but still vulnerable to the latest exploit. This exploit uses hyperthreading as its attack vector and even with the micro-code update for mitigation, people recommend turning off HT to be truly "secure"honestly at this point Intel is slapping band-aids on bullet wounds and hoping to not completely bleed dry. You're better off waiting for 7nm Ryzen in like a month.
>>70983910No. That's how much it has available. How many watts your system consumes actually depends on what parts are inside your system. If you had a system averaging around 315W, a 600W psu would have at least 285 watts to spare.
>>70983898That's alright, this system has served me well for several years, I specifically bought this non-K because I wanted virtualization (VT-d and PCI passthrough) features at the time, I still need them nowadays, do new Intel/AMD processors come with the ability to overclock and use VT-d on the same chip?
>>70983954yes. AMD does at least. I'm unsure if Intel does. I have virtualization on my R7-1700X and also overclocked to 3.8GHz.
>>70983930What a shame. I was aiming to build a little after the 4th of July. Hopefully the new Ryzen shit is really good and still cheaper than a 8700k. Did they already confirm if the latest AMD mobos will support the new chips?
>>70983985I just might make the switch to AMD while I'm at it, seeing all these vulnerabilities like Meltdown, Spectre, and the one that just came out are pushing me to AMD, since you are using AMD, have you seen any downsides to that CPU brand?It's been a long time since I've researched about CPU specs/features but I guess Intel nowadays is just marketing and shilling?
>>70984061At the moment we don't even know when Ryzen 3000 will be realeased exactyl, the presentation slides say Q3 2019. Pretty much all B450 and X470 boards will be compatible in principle but there have been rumors that the new CPUs have some special stuff that only works with the new X570 chipset which could take even longer to be released.
>>70984091I see. Well I'll wait to see the new news but the latest I'll stand to wait for a new system is August. I've been putting it off for 4 years now and I finally have the ability to put aside for it.
>>70983328Not that anon but you have critical autism. Consider suicide
>>70984061most of the flagship AM4 board already launched BIOS support for the latest chips. However the X570 stuff is supposed to have far superior memory compatibility and PCIe 4.0>>70984084I've been all over the board. Owned an FX-8350 @ 5.5GHz, then an Intel i5-4690k. Then i7-6700k. Then my current R7-1700X. I haven't had a single issue with my gen1 Ryzen build and I was a day one adopter. Other than growing pains (RAM compatibility mostly), my system has been rock solid and reliable.
can this do 1440p 144hz?monitor im thinking about getting is the dell S2719DGF
>>70982353Honestly you are not saving that much money by reusing the PSU and case. The disk drive is fine though. The case is pretty ugly honestly and the power supply being old and chinese might not actually be able to handle what it's ""rated"" for.To answer your question, yes your new motherboard will fit there. In fact there looks to be enough clearance for a high profile heatsink and seems to support full width PCI cards.
>>70984270>NOVIDEO Lmao no, Vega 56 can however
>>70984270I'm doing 1440p @ 165HZ with pic related
>>70984312>3gb 2080 ti Doubt
>>70984312>>70984394>2080ti comes in a THREE GB VERSIONwhat the hell, why would they make that?
>>70984477He’s probably a chink. Would explain the AMD shilling
>>70984312why do you need 6 terabytes of storage my man
>>70984394>>70984477>>70984528Here. Speccy was never able to recognize my cards. My 980Ti used to display as 2GB.>>70984545120GB for boot500GB SATA for dedicated recording space500GB NVME for photo/video editing work space2TB for game install2x1TB mechanical drives in RAID 0 for expanded work spaceMy server has 34TB in it
>>70984477>>70984394>there are people that still to this day don't understand that speccy is a buggy pile of garbage that cannot read new graphics cards correctlySpoiler alert: they don't make a 3GB version of the 2080 Ti.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mxJx8YA preliminary build ideas before the next ryzen announcement.Multitasking and gaming @1440p. I would like to at least get 5 years out of this since my current system is 7 years old.
>>70984672change the power supply to something cheaper from Seasonic rather than that overpriced Corsair model. Also get a monitor that isn't shit even it means dropping some extra cash. That monitor you chose isn't G-sync and it's only 75HZ.
>>70980338Dear /g/ board,On a scale of 1 - 10, how retarded is this purchase for a gaming rig?
>>70984744The monitor is something like a placeholder, 75hz 1440p is the bare minimum. I may get lucky and have the entire cost of the monitor covered by someone else but I included to to complete the build
>>70984826don't you DARE ruin that Chad's image with your shitposting you fucking Philistine. I will end you. I will fucking kill you.But for real though, you didn't post a picture or link you stupid...double BAKA
>>70984840>FUCKThis is going to make it look 10x as retarded butOH WELL LOLOLOLhttps://www.scorptec.com.au/bundle/CPU/Intel-Socket-1151/294-BX80684I58400plusH310M-GAMING-ARCTICplusHX424C15FBK2-8gif related
>>70984672will do for now, just make sure that excessive cooler fits in your case and this ram fits under it tooforget about it lasting 5 years, but you would be able to swap in a zen2 cpu later if you need
>>70984869I'm assuming that's not US pricing because that'd be absolutely horrible if it was. That looks like a shit deal all around honestly. Intel isn't in a good position right now. That board is absolute basic bitch tier, and only 8GB of slow RAM.
>>70984819dont worry, nvidia already suppots freesync (even if its not certified for most monitors it works)
>>70982650>i spent $200 extra for a 9900k so i could make it a 9700kproof intel users are brain damaged
>>70984928Yeah because everyone could’ve guessed that 6 months ago you autistic chimp.
>>70984928Intel:MUH HYPERTHREADINGAMD:J-JUST WAITCyrix:D-DON'T WORRY WE CAN RUN QUAKE NEXT GENERATION!
So i have a gpu. This is an asus turbo nvidia gtx 970. I got it for $50 so its sortve a steal, but a steal for a doo doo gpu. I wanna watercool it for giggles. can i install a universal water block on it, and leave the mosfet chips bare, with just the stock fins for heat dissipation? If I cant keep the mosfet chips uncooled, can i keep the stock cooler on the card, and just dremel out holes for the water block pipes?I sorta think it would look cool, but the sound benefit of water cooling would be wasted. What yall think? Shitty idea or worth a go?
>>70984947ARM: smugface while PC is dying of and everyones on their phones
>>70985037Shitty idea to a common man.Worth a go if you've got a backup GPU.
>>70985038RISC-V: Yeah we're the linux of CPUs.
>>70985037heres a pic of the card with the plastic cover removed. the only cooling is the fin block on the gpu, and a fan in the plastic casing. It would be really easy to just keep the casing on, and use the free empty space to store shit in there, like the water block.
>>70985044I have two of the same card. I was planning on trying it on the shittier one, and if it looks good, or actually performs better, ill do it to the second one too and daisychain my tardcards.
Of these fan controllers, which is the less shitty?http://www.phanteks.com/PH-PWHUB_02.htmlhttps://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=526&area=enhttps://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Categories/Products/CORSAIR-LINK/iCUE-Commander-PRO-Smart-RGB-Lighting-and-Fan-Speed-Controller/p/CL-9011110-WWI have a mini ITX board with just 2 fan headers (cpu and sys), so I need some kind of controller. Please gib other suggestions.
>>70984941TLBleed is unpatched and common knowledge for over a year now, not my fault you are retarded
Is there any upcoming monitors in 1-2 months that are budget and good?
Can i use two monitors with different framerates and resolutions? Id really just want one main gaming monitor and another for various tomfoolery.
>>70980338>i5 9600K/9400F - Good 60fps+ gaming & multithreaded use>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarks>i7 9700K - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform>i9 7900X - HEDT?????????????
building my pc sunday. going to be using the wraith cooler that comes with the ryzen 7 2700x, testing everything out and seeing how it performs. i dont plan to overclock or anything any time soon and i have the meshify S2 case so airflow should be fantastic. I live in LA so it doesnt get too unbearably hot even in the summer.all that being said, i still kinda feel weird going with the stock cooler coming from a previous intel user. I do plan to play some newer released games and do some video rendering. should i just bite the bullet and grab a Dark Rock Pro 4? I can pick one up on amazon right now and it will literally be here tomorrow, and i plan to build my PC on sunday. I wanted to save some money but the the back of my mind is telling me to just spend the extra $100 for peace of mind that my CPU will be thoroughly cooled. am i overreacting?
>>70985339amd stock coolers are fine
>>70980338>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarks9900k is down up to 40% in performance, not only 9%.And 9700k isn't high end.>>70980799It's better than this one at least.>>70981055x399m taichi>>70981638>Why this over the 1660ti?Is the answer to that not obvious?It's cheaper yet significantly faster.>>70982937No Gsync is the same thing and just costs more.>>70985339Put on the stock cooler and see how it goes before worrying about it.>>70985063I don't understand how you think you'll fit on a water cooler there without removing that heatsink entirely.
>>70985081Go for it you absolute madlad.
>>70984239>not that anonLmao, how more obvious of a samefag could you be?
>>70985389>I don't understand how you think you'll fit on a water cooler there without removing that heatsink entirely.i will remove the heatsink for water cooling. im just worried that if i use a universal water block, the rest of the card wont be cooled at all, and will overheat. which is why i want to keep the casing on the card. the casing isnt attached to the heatsink. The casing has a fan in it that will cool the rest of the card. To make the casing work with the water cooling, ill just dremel two holes for the pipes.
>>70985339It runs fine for the time being. The Wraith Max has 4 heat pipes and a CM fan, so it's actually pretty decent outside of the top tier coolers.
>>70980746Sounds more like a HDD issue. Re2 had microstutter until I put it on a SSD.
>>70985389>X399 TaichiSomething on AM4, not TR4 pls
What's worse in computer hardware design, having programmable RGB epic gamer shit or having everything be the darkest most minimalist black possible like my soul?
>>70985367>>70985389>>70985485much appreciated, thanks for the input guys.
>>70985527>What's worse in computer hardware design, having programmable RGB epic gamer shit or having everything be the darkest most minimalist black possible like my soul?black with red highlights is the worst thing in existence. then turbofag megacolors is second worse. pure black isnt that bad.
is there any performance hit to using 4 sticks of memory instead of 2 sticks to reach the same capacity?
>>70985527pure black is kino
>>70985273intel shills shitting up the OP since zen 2 is being announced in 10 daysworking overtime damage control
>>70985556you say that literally every day for 2 years.
>>70985549Some memory controllers might struggle with 4 sticks. Unless you need 64GB, go dual channel.
>>70985552>>70985548Real boys passed the test, pure black is best.
>>70985575What if I want black with teal accents, am I a fag?
>>70985566Because intel shills are on constant damage control, whether it be new ryzen cpus, 10nm delays or more sec vulnerabilities
is it worth getting 32gb memory for a gaming rig? i know its not really needed right now but it doesnt seem that long ago when 2gb was plenty and now 8gb seems to be bare minimum
>>70985527>>70985548>>70985552>>70985575>>70985600I think we can all agree yellow lighting is the most based, right?
Which W10 version do I get? Home? Pro? Enterprise? OEM?
>>70985775hahahahano, my friend, we will not agree on this.
the only yellow that should be in your pc is if youre still rocking a dfi lanparty with matching yellow braided ide cables cables
>>70985485It's similar to a like $25-$35 cooler afaik.Sure for $40-$80 you can get better.Also: that case being half empty is fucking cancer.That's the Meshify C?Even a 41L case is so damned oversized now days.>>70985549Yes. You won't be able to run 4 as fast as 2 which will reduce performance.Something like 3-10%.>>70985786Pro. But Home isn't much worse. Enterprise I have no idea about.
>>70985855>Procool. are the $5 keys from ebay ok?
What PC should I build for running Android Studio? I5-4440 barely handles the emulator
>>70986150Uhh you mean the emulator itself? Nox Player is fast on Ryzen.Android studio itself is fast on Ryzen.>>70985873Yes just buy from a reputable seller who has sold many already.
in all due honesty is there any reason I am to believe that amd vulnerability simply don't exist?I'm certain that I regret the i7 8700 I have now but this mess still means I could use a hedt that isn't intel so I could match performance.the only other way is to take a 40% performance hit, wait 1 month for safe w10 updates and then ~6 months for bios updates to make my intel okay again. is there even any wait that w7 users can cope with this
if there was any noteworthy amd vulnerability you better believe intel shills would be hammering it home on /g/
>>70986338>in all due honesty is there any reason I am to believe that amd vulnerability simply don't exist?Read the white paper on why AMD is more secure. Yes, it's reasonable to believe that it simply does have 1/10th as many vulnerabilities as Intel, and that those vulnerabilities are far minor and easy to patch.AMD engineers foresaw possible architectural vulnerabilities and hardened against them whereas Intel willingly, and seriously, cut security for a few % performance gains.To be fair, your average performance hit is going to be more around 9-18%. 40% is on the extreme end in certain programs you likely don't use. You still should have gotten a 2700X instead. People were warning of HT being defunct at least a year ago.Just upgrade when Zen2 comes. Some incel will buy your 8700k off you still.
If this vulnerability has been around since the 2nd gen, how come nothing has come of it until now? Or well, not even anything coming of it, it's only been found by researchers, has it even affected anyone?
Every part of imouto's pc arrived besides the RAM.So, I put one 16gb DDR4 3333mhz stick from my own PC, just to try to boot her rig. The CPU cooler starts but the monitor doesn't detect any signal from the GPU.Her mobo specification says it support 3200mhz(OC) DDR4. Is my RAM too fast for her rig and the reason for it to not even boot?Here's the build.mobo: ASRock A320M-HD AM4 mATX DDR4gpu: Gigabyte RX 570 4gb gddr5cpu: Ryzen 5 2600X 19MB cache 3.6GHz (4.25GHz Max Turbo) with Wraith Spire cooler SSD: Kingston 240GB - read: 500MB/s - write 350 MB/sHDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 rpmRAM: HyperX Fury 16GB(2x8gb stick) 3200Mhz DDR4 CL18Power Supply: EVGA 450W
>>70986545idk my intel rig booted up first time. must be amd
>Lisa Su confirms Q3 launch for Ryzen, Epyc and NAVII guess no need to wait and go buy 2700x for my first build, right?
>>70986368>if there was any noteworthy amd vulnerability you better believe intel shills would be hammering it home on /g/We've seen this before where they just make up fake ones and gaslight even when they DON'T exist.>>70986545>Her mobo specification says it support 3200mhz(OC) DDR4. Is my RAM too fast for her rig and the reason for it to not even boot?No, that's not the problem. It'll cycle until it finds bootable timings.The problem is likely that your A320 board does not support Ryzen 2000 series. You need a bootkit to boot it and update the BIOS to support Ryzen 2000 series. PCPP should have warned you about this but you ignored it.
i have a single stick of 16gb ddr4 2133. Im considering buying another stick to increase perfomance, should I just buy another one of the stick I have now?
>>70986667>PCPP should have warned you about this but you ignored it.Pretty sure nobody warned me. Anyway, I should have lurked more. Now, I'm fucked.
>>70986814>Now, I'm fucked.A local shop might update it for free or $20.If not, you can ask AMD to send you a free bootkit though they only do it as a last resort.
>>70986844>A local shop might update it for free or $20.Thanks. I'll try it, tomorrow.
>>70980338>Not mentioning XenonLiterally a 24gh processor that costs less than most core i7 procesors
>>70986983Xenon is an element, not CPU.And not worth it when you can just get Ryzen. Like which Xeon do you even mean where you can get a board and the CPU for better value than Ryzen? You'd need like 12 cores to match the 8/16 of the 2700X and 12 core Xeons and boards aren't cheap.
i7-4790k worthwhile upgrade from i5 4460? >inb4 tempsyep
>Ancient PC with only GTX 970 as a newer part compared to the rest>GTX 970 shortsWell boys, fuck this, guess I'm starting over.I do a ton of emulation and gaming so I need to a decent CPU as well as GPU.Any idea where to start? Prices are all way way higher in Australia so I need to be a lot more conservative.I've got really decent DDR3 that's trucking along fine if I can avoid replacing that while upping the other specs a decent amount.
>>70987010No. 4790k is basically just a 4670k since the update and a 4670k isn't worthwhile anymore. Need 8 threads minimum, but 6c/12t is more ideal.>>709870571660 and 2600X. Wait for Zen2 if you want to do PS3 emulation. 2700X is decent at it but could be better.If you're not using an OpenGL emulator, you could go with a 570 or Vega56 for better value instead.
>>70987068There's a Gigabyte B450 / 2600 / RX 570 AMD50 Bundle for like ~$550, I guess all I'd need from there is some DDR4, would that be respectable enough you think?
>>70987089Uhh I wouldn't recommend a gigabyte board.You can get the b450 tomahawk + 2600X + 2x8Gb 3200CL16 + RX570 for like what... $105+$170+$80+$130 = $485.Sure you get the 2700X in the bundle, but it's not really saving you anything.Plus you sell the games that CPU and GPU comes with for like $90-$110.
>>70987113Yeah see those exactly same parts in Australia are a ton more. Hard to imagine getting a 2600x for $170 but I'll look around.
>>70987068>No. 4790k is basically just a 4670k since the update and a 4670k isn't worthwhile anymoreyou have any other CPU recs then? The motherboard only seems to support a handful of cpus - https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GA-Z97P-D3-rev-10#support-cpu
recommend me a build for RPCS3, lads
>>70987146Oh. That bundle for $550 aud seems pretty good, actually.>>709872272700X and GTX 1660.>>70987194You can't get any worthwhile CPU for that motherboard. You'd have to get a new board, CPU, and DDR4.
>>70987282>You can't get any worthwhile CPU for that motherboardYeah, i figured, i didn't know if any of the others on the list were better and was understanding that the 4790k was the best one there. I don't need/want to splash out on an entirely new everything because i only really need the upgrade for 1 or 2 new-ish games that are CPU hogs (Black Ops 4 primarily). I'm just wondering how big the boost is from my current CPU with it, probably around 20-30%?
>>70987282>>70987227I've heard that Ryzens don't play so well with RPCS3 in particular.
>>70987296>I've heard that Ryzens don't play so well with RPCS3 in particular.Those are simply lies. Incels like to lie. The 2700X is a lot better than the 9600k, and the 9900k no longer exists. 2700X can do 60fps except for some hitches in Persona 5 and shit while the 9600k drops to the 30s. You just have to configure it correctly as you do with any hardware. There are guides you can look at for both and see the performance of both.Not sure how the 9700k compares, but I'm sure it's hardly worth it. It's not going to be twice as good as the 9600k, obviously.
MSI B450 > Gigabyte B450?I assume that's the case from the amount of hate I see Gigabyte getting here.
>>70987320What about Demon's Souls?
>>70987010no get zen 2 when it comes out
cheaper and way less hassle to just get a cheap ps3 off gumtree
>>70987495if you're going to upgrade anyway then it's not cheaper
I got a 256GB NVMe SSD that I got for $35 that I don't know what to do with. I already have a 1TB SATA SSD and 2TB HDD that are only half way filled, so I'm pretty content with my storage setup.Should I just use it as a boot drive and frequent programs?
ps3 is $50 used you mongoloid
sell the nvme drive if youre not gonna use it
>>70980952>"wait for Navi"
>>70981131>i5-4690K>>70980962dont even bother with another i5, just get an i7 non K like a 4770 for under $150. huge boost from 4440. move OS to an SSD 240gb ~$40 . used matching 8gig ddr3 prob under 30$leaves about 180-200 for new graphics card. more if you sell old gpu. prob get a gtx1660 and be set for a while
>>70985389>>i9 9900k - Be aware that performance is down up to 9% since past benchmarks>9900k is down up to 40% in performance, not only 9%.explain this
>>70987597>buy shitty products because you are a retarded child with 0 impulse control
>>70987715>tfw copped a 2080ti for $700stay mad fgt
>>70987704Disabling HT plus the patches lowers performance up to 40%.You aren't secure without disabling HT. MS and Apple recommend doing so while everyone else is disabling it by default.Check the news jesus.
>>70987739No you didnt and>15% gen to genlmao at least vega was more than 15% better than the fury, keep rationalizing underage
>>70986667>The problem is likely that your A320 board does not support Ryzen 2000 series. You need a bootkit to boot it and update the BIOS to support Ryzen 2000 series.AMD. Not even once.
>>70986589>>70987828You're retarded. With Intel you couldn't even use an old board. Quit trolling and spamming.
>>70987774>No youi did, and this was just after launch. some nigger on offerup thought he was fleecing me selling me a "broken" card all i had to do was send it in for RMA and get a new one. lmaoing at him (and you)
>>70987774>>15% gen to genalso >impling i upgraded from previous gen
>>70987349Not him but Demon Souls runs fine. Just make sure you get the latest build because they've finally fixed audio bug. You have to enable it in the ROMs options though.t. 2700x owner
Hey I'm installing an OS for the first time(W10), what do I need to know before I install it?Do I have to set the partitions or whatever they're called?
So I just finished my new build yesterday.How can I bullshit the windows 10 activation? I'm not paying 210 bingbongs for that shit
>>70987945have you ever bought another version of windows?if so you can link the license to your windows account then transfer it to your new machine.or something like that.
>>70987965Yeah, I did. That was 5 years ago and that PC, license and key are lost to time now unfortunately.
>>70987928You'll be able to create a partition while insatlling.>>70987945You can buy keys off eBay for like $20. I haven't had issues so far.
>>70988000>You'll be able to create a partition while insatlling.Is there a recommended way to do it? It's a 1TB SSD and the only storage on the pc. should i just do 500/500?
>>70988000That was my back up plan. I'll do that.
>>70988010Just make one partition with the full amount unless you have a reason for two partitions.
Could use some guidance. My motherboard died. So i've decided to upgrade.Bought a new mobo, cpu (switched from intel to AMD) and ram. I'm assuming i'll need to do a fresh install of windows. Fine. But how.My old and now dead system is using two SSDs, one of which has windows on it. But i don't remember which.How do i go about doing this?Install windows from a usb and will the windows install process will detect which drive already has windows on it and let me overwrite it?My old pc is dead so i can't sort all this shit.
>>70988051try hooking both to new build and check from BIOS which, and also maybe it'll boot anyways
>>70988051I would really do a fresh install of windows. There's a lot of left over config shit that won't update and will make your Ryzen perform worse. Also drivers that a driver cleaner might not properly catch.You can download the win10 installer from Microsoft's site.>>70988010Why do you want to create 2 partitions? Just do the 1 for the full drive.
>>70988098>>70988098>I would really do a fresh install of windowsthat wasn't my question dude but thanks
>>70988116just have your BIOS boot one SSD first and if it doesn't work boot the other SSD
>>70988133but will i be given the option to do a fresh install of windows?
>>70988163back in the day the thing you are trying to do would work pretty easily. but now windows 10 assigns a "serial number" basically to every piece it connects to and if that motherboard serial doesnt come up you will have to reinstall windowsthere is a mythical workaround but good luck finding it
>>70988183ye i think i've got that sorted.my windows 10 version is linked to my windows account so i think i should be able to reactivate on new hardware.my issue is how this is going to work with my old SSD which already has windows on it.is it going to allow me to just overwrite the old install or is it going to format the entire ssd or something.
>>70988183>there is a mythical workaround but good luck finding itSign into MS account on old hardware, check activation status, should say something along the lines of "activated with digital licence with microsoft account", install windows on new hardware, sign into same MS account.
>>70980338I'm buying a Vega 56. Wish I had noticed the Freesync crap on my hdmi only monitor before buying it.
>>70980338>>70987770>You aren't secure without disabling HT. MS and Apple recommend doing so while everyone else is disabling it by default.>For Windows 10 version 1607, Windows Server 2016 and more recent systems that are not running Hyper-V and are not using VBS-protected security features, customers should not disable HT.Source:https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4457951/windows-guidance-to-protect-against-speculative-execution-side-channel
>>70988423Interesting. Macs aren't typically using VMs but they still recommend disabling for "full mitigations".There's also probably more HT vulns which will be coming out of embargo.
>>70988563Who knows how many exploits are live and being kept quiet even right now thanks to their bribes.
Looking for a good 1440p 144hz monitor mostly for gaming on a 450$ budget.Dont care for gsync/freesync, care more about good colors.What are some good options /pcbg/ ?Also in europe if it matters.
>>70937693Go drink some bleach, shit for brains.
>>70988638What I've gathered is that HT makes it a lot easier to exploit. The mitigation patches are enough to make it supposedly impossible with HT disabled, but then it's still possible but difficult with HT enabled.
>>70985452Sure kiddo. How does it feel to have extreme autism?
WTF both my WD 2tb drives aren't showing up anywhere not even on bios Tried unplugging sata and power, changing cables , changing sata port etc.What are the odds they both failed at the exact same time? They were 100% healthy when i left a week ago (I left the pc unplugged also)What could it be?