18yo zoomer here. What was life like before apple invented the smartphone?
Slow. People would try to type words on a number pad. (t9word) And screens were so foggy and low-rez that most internet sites were unreadable. Lots of promises, but not much practical use.
>>70173762Do you not remember being younger than 10
You had to type the same physical button 3 times to get one letter you wanted to pop up. You had to wait until you got home to google something Your creeper pictures were shit quality
>>7017378210 year olds don't tend to get personal devices anyway
>>70173762was alot better less normalfags now every brainlet can acess internet
>>70173795How is OP posting then?
>>70173762Basically the same. Except more boring. Instead of using your phone while waiting you would have... usually nothing. Maybe a book, dedicated audio player, something like that.Everything took longer to do and you needed more things to do stuff.The only good thing was the lack of expectation to always be available to talk to and to instantly respond. That and the lack of things like nonstop access to things like gambling.
There are people who will religiously tell you that Apple did nothing to advance the smart phone.
>>70173811>was alot better less normalfagsActually I forgot this but its true. Theres still communities out there for autists but the normies creep in little by little. This place was lost to the normie scum long ago and is dilluted with normie shit. Problem is same thing happened everywhere else. Eternal September gets worse every year.
I had a guy show me his Blackberry and insist "THIS is what Apple should be doing."
We has less normies and third worlders on the internet
>>70173762Same it is now, but before the phone was a tool now it became a toy.
>>70173762Nokias were better up to the iPhone 4.Before that, flip phones with num pads and t9. Websites had WAP versions 20 years ago.It wasn't really that bad.
>>70173872Toy = Can actually get it to do practical things like tell you where you are on a map, and find files from a long list.
>>701739254chan is clumsy on a phone even today. I can't imagine it on a flip phone.
>>70173762texting was so much fun.Nokia was the best of best
>>70173762You had options and it was fun.
Smoked cigarettes, carried around spiral-bound notebooks.
>>70173942What kind of shit phone do you use?
>>70173781>>70173837>>70173854>>70173942There are iToddler subhumans that think Apple did anything other than blatantly steal and market to gullible morons.
>>70173945I miss nokia
>>70173963Its pretty obvious what he's shilling for.
>>70173762How do you not remember retard? I remember mos shit until i was like 3. t. 18 yo zoomer
>>70173762Humanity was living in metaphorical caves before Apple pushed them forward by centuries.
>>70173964if the lg prada was so great, why aren't they still around?
>>70174046Apple is a marketing company, and they're damned good at it. Also, LG does still make smartphones, they just changed the name, that's like asking why Apple doesn't make iPhone 3Gs anymore
its all about a companies ability to play the market/consumer in the end. your hardware can be great, your software can be great, but if you can't market it to make people believe it's great, you are the lg prada. you'll be forgotten. when someone who CAN play the market takes your idea, changes it, and sells it as "the first of its kind, ever. period.". apple doesn't make good hardware, they dont make great software, apple is a hype machine. that hype lets them sell shit hardware at huge margins, so they can keep the cycle going. its why linux phones, privacy centered phones, etc haven't taken off. it doesn't matter if you can manage put a 1080ti farm into a smartphone form factor. if you can't make people want it, who gives a shit.
>>70174093Who the fuck are you even talking too.All that crap applies to the masses, but people who are actually in see through the shit like glass, which is why apple is getting BTFO daily.
>>70174093PROUDC U C K
>>70173762Cameras were legit terrible qualityYou had to pay for GPS devicesPay for song ring tonesTyping is a pain because number pad but I think QWERTY phones existed?
>>70173964That is ridiculous:Prada announced: December, 12 2006iPhone announced: January 9, 2007Are you suggesting that Apple designed the iPhone and had it ready for demo in UNDER A MONTH? The Apple announcement showed thorough and accurate details of how the phone actually worked. And it wasn't like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFLRN61zVpk She struggles with the scroll bar and even needs help unlocking it. The thing does not have multitouch - the heart of what makes an iPhone great. If anything, the LG Prada is probably why people thought the iPhone would fail.
>>70174198Back to your shitting street Pajeet.
>>70173762You had to carry a backpack full of black and white MIPS shit.
>>70174225>the prototype hardware running a beta version of an entirely new os more than half a year before release was buggyWow, shocking anon.
>>70174247POO IN LOO
>>70173762Much the same.
>>70174247see >>70174188then see >>70174251
>>70174164point out where i praised apple you oxygen thief
>>70174225> Phone wasn't ready to ship 5 months before it shipped.Dumbfuck.>>70173964OMG, look at what a disaster this LG Prada was.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZQUy-YvRAEEven though it has a touchscreen, it still defaults to t9word for sending texts! This is a YEAR AFTER the iPhone SHIPPED! And just look at what finally comes up for QWERTY.
>>70174274Did he steal those phones?
>>70173762>Apple inventedThose things that you call "feature phones" these days were actually smartphones back then. We had O2-XDA running Windows CE, Palm PDAs/Phones, and Blackberries.Mobile connectivity was expensive as shit, so people actually understood if you can't immediately respond to their calls/messages.If you want to do anything more than calls and messages, you would have to wait until you can use your PC at home/work.
>>70174274see >>70174188then see >>70174251
>>70174060LG is currently hanging by a thread lately.It's the phone every Youtuber and Reviewer but no real person owns one. A case of viral marketing gone wrong, because it's so obvious.
>>70173762On the tech side it was frustrating.Phones like Nokia E/N series and winmno had hardware and mostly software to do everything modern phones do these days but where crippled by missing few important features like push notifications and fast dormancy so modern services like whatsapp and being always connected in general where impractical.
>>70173762>apple invented the smartphoneWe had smartphones before apple. Mostly on Symbian OS. And those things were great, they had an actual software that is not vendor locked to the single market app and physical keyboard, so you could write message without having to look at the screen all the time, not to mention that you could write a message while it's raining outside
All you need to know is that before the iPhone and iCloud we didn't have leaked nudes of Jennifer Lawrence
>>70173762phones were flip phone until 05ish then phones with slide out keyboards started becoming popular. But the software sucked. And PDAs existed and did basically everything smartphones do today. But instead of an app store like Google play you had to download it on your PC and beam it to your palm pilot.
>>70173762The Internet was great, people actually had friends, way less sjw bullshit as there where no echo chambers. Apple ruined the internet and the world.
>>70174225>The first iPhone was shitand so were other "smart" devices at that time. All these "smart" devices didn't even have proper userspace / kernel land separation back then, and are prone to system crashes, but people just accepted it and moved on.I had Windows CE PDAs with cellular. It'd crash after you ran certain apps and/or have certain amount of uptime. You have to unplug the battery, then plug it in again. Permanent flash storage was very expensive back then, so many early Windows CE devices came with volatile storage that'd get wiped when turned off. Meaning if the system locks up and you have to pull out the battery, have fun losing all your data and reinstalling everything.Blackberries were slow as shit because everything was programmed in Java, and the OS would also crash from time to time, although less than a WinCE device. They were only reliable for emails, but people were more concerned with BBM.Palm OS seems to be the most stable one, but I've only tried Palm Zire.Then there was also Nokia with their Symbian and Maemo.The iPhone actually pushed the development of modern mobile SoCs so our phones can now have all the nice things that used to be limited to server OSes (before they get brought to desktop OSes as well). Zoomers are probably too young to even remember that early Windows XP blue screens often.
>>70174395Right now you are on the internet arguing about a 12 year old phone. Which of those people in this pic are you?
>>70173762Used to bring my laptop on the crapper.
>>70173762Chicks would still take pics you could fap too on facebook with their digital cameras. But these chicks were also accessable because they didn't have hundreds of dudes hitting them up on apps.It was a better time.
>>70173933>find files from a long listIs this actually what iToddlers deal with? All their files in a single massive fucking list?
>>70173762Better. No instant messaging, no mobile email clients etc. Life hasn't changed much except that you're more available 24/7 which is really bad.
>>70173762desu symbian was pretty comfy
>>70173762Phones were actually better then.The biggest contribution apple did was popularizing app stores.Before then, phones used the software that the phone manufacturers made and it was fine.Obviously, I don't want to go back to a phone where I can't install good Foss apps, but back then, interfaces were effecient, the phones catered to the power users, and everything seemed to work together.We had alarm clocks in our phones which was so useful, I still don't know why they got rid of that.We had battery life for a week if you used it all the time, more if you didn't.Texting was actually enjoyable and the phone assisted you instead of what we have today.We also didn't have much to do on the phones other than communicate, plan and such. It was truly a simpler time.
>>70175215A while ago I went back to an old Nokia phone and fucking hell it was amazing, everything you could want to do with a phone you can still do on this thing, it's comfy and the software on it was great
>>70173762>before apple invented the smartphoneRight off the top of my head I remember the N95 preceded it by 1 year. And I'm very sure there were others before it, in the 90's even.
>>70173795I had my first phone when I was like 9, dude.
>>70173762The biggest and greatest thkng that happened in the jump to smartphpnes is that text messages would be saved and you could restore them back if someone called you.You wouldnt how much time II wasted on my motorola getting calls that erased the sms I was typing.
>>70173762ComfyWe were all playing shitty snake and car java games on our Nokia, some even multiplayer via bluetooth, sharing music that we downloaded on emule and limewire via bluetooth and infrared, listened to it through shitty 2.5mm jack headphones included with the phone, and texted our mom twice a month with an aweful T9 keyboard.Plans were like 30€ a month for 60SMS and 30 minutes of call.
fun.we actually spend our day doing things instead of taking pictures of food.
>>70173762>the smartphone?it's called the Parasite Phone and life was way better than the bullshit and horror that phone has spread all over the world.degeneracy gone mad.
>>70175157Symbian sucked balls for touchscreens. Nokia's software couldn't keep up with Android devices or iPhones. That's why they died in the long run.
>>70174093Yes, but people who come to /g/ should't be thr kind that fall for this shitI expect people here to call bs marketing out and seek the tech enthusiast products outUnfortunately the industry has now moved towards not making tech innovation and just selling aesteticsThats why my 2014 LG G3 is still perfectly fine as a smartphoneIt's why my x230 thinkpad is perfectly usable as a laptopIf I needed renddring, compiling, gaming power I'd just upgrade my rig, thats where slivers of innovation are still left, in the pc partsEven then gpus are now 'gaming' only and procesors are still barely any different in day to day use
>>70175652You can make a smartphone comfy if you wantNoone is forcing you to use social mediaGet lineageos for osAdaway as an adblockBromite for a browserClover for chansSlide for redditNewpipe for youtubeVinyl for musicYou dont need anything else, youll avoid all the botnet and parasitic bs and get to enjoy comfy internet anywhere you want
>>70173762it was better
>>70173762phones had a button for certain things, and you couldn't change it. like a music button, a text messages button. phone would slide open and it was considered really cool. some people really liked blackberry phones, others liked the motorola razr
before smartphones you could walk down the street and, cctv notwithstanding, there was almost zero risk of being recorded or uploaded anywhere people could see.
Does somebody want to sell a Thinkpad x230t 3cell battery? I would buy it even when it's long dead.
>>70173762Awesome. Symbian was King.Windows mobile was a thing.Blackberry existed.Phones had 64 megs of ram, and they were faster than (((Android)))
>>70173762Most people where not as fixated to their phones as they are today. Things actually got done and people where a lot less stressed
>>70173762The same. We just used our phones for texting and did all rich media stuff on our clunky gray desktops.
>>70173854he was right
>>70173762it was freedom
>>70173782Yes they do. All fucking zoomers do
>>70173933Your phone doesn't even have an accessible file system, ssh, or a terminal. Fuck outta here. Keep your toy.
>>70174060>apple is a marketing companythis is such horseshit, any large company will try to do the best marketing they could do. most electronics manufactorers have a much larger marketing budget than apple, they're just better at it. i don't even like apple these days but the marketing argument is just sour grapes.back before tim cook took over apple actually made overall solid products. yes they bought up tech (like any other large company) but they were good at buying the right stuff, making the right improvements and capitalising on promising concepts. they basically paved the way for several new markets and turned them from relatively niche gadgets/concepts to booming industries> mp3 players> smartphones> the whole fucking app concept> tablets> digital musicagain i don't like modern apple and all their shit practices, but they certainly had more going for them than just clever marketing when they grew into the fucking behemoth they are today
>>70174093Apple doesn’t make shit hardware. I fell for the android meme when I was young and stupid. When I bought my first iPhone I was infinitely impressed because unlike android it just werks.
>>70173762HTC had the right idea before the iPhoneNever owned one, but all their windows mobile devices looked cool as shit back then
>>70173762We slept better
>>70173762>What was life like before apple invented the smartphone?The Good:>People had actual conversations instead of staring at their phone>More social life, because no social media>At concerts, sports games and other events people actually enjoyed the moment instead of being obsessed with selfies and attention whoring.>No SJW culture, no overprotected childhoodsThe Bad:>Going on vacation without GPS was often painful, you had to deal with shitty, outdated maps and also needed someone reliable to read the map while driving.>Getting information was kind of difficult if you weren't at home. No way to quickly check bus connections, opening hours etc. on the go. You just had to remember stuff...The Ugly:>You needed to carry lots of different devices to do the job a smartphone does. MP3 Player, cell-phone, camera...
>>70173762Less pictures of thots with dog snouts on the netGood times
>>70173964I'm pretty sure the first nexus came out before the iPhone too
>>70174395This doesn't even make sense. Apple has been marketing computers "for the rest of us" since the 1970s.
>>70174461>Palm OS seems to be the most stable onePalm OS was mostly stable because it deliberately limited what you were able to do. They knew the OS could not handle any serious multitasking, so you got single-task right up until the day it died. And even then it could be a buggy mess. I had a T|X PDA which worked fine, never gave me an ounce of trouble, but my Centro was just a disaster. Constantly crashed because they were just trying to make the Palm OS do too much.I actually found the Blackberry that replaced my Palm devices was way more stable and reliable. >>70178012This is a pretty good summary, although I found that people used to shut themselves out more with newspapers and books rather than having actual conversations.
>>70177524I had an HTC tilt and it was pretty garbage desu. Windows Mobile had a shitty UI and the touch screen response was pretty shitty since you had to physically press down on the screen with stylus. Also had an issue where opening and closing it can actually shut off the phone because it would it the latch for the sim & storage cards. Apple had the right idea for better touch screens and an intuitive UI but I still love having a full physical keyboard.
People thought texting wouldn't take off because it was so impractical lol
>>70173790>You had to wait until you got home to google somethingThis, I used to keep a "lookup list" in my pocket notebookSimpler times.
>>70173837Fuck that, I had both a Treo 650 and two Moto Qs, I loved them both
>>70177619Well I didn't. When I learned to read when I was 6 I always secretly read books at night when I was supposed to sleep. I already was a nocturnal person back then. The thing that changed for my was that I swapped my physical books to books and articles on my phone while still getting insufficient sleep.
>>70174225iPhones have no market share in India; a literal fork of FirefoxOS is more populargargle on nigger cum you insufferable autist
We had these things that were basically unchanged since the 90'sAnd we had the Microshit knockoff that was Windows 95 crammed into a tiny screen because hurr durr muh Start menu
>>70173762There were fewer dumbshit normalfags like you posting here. Was pretty sweet.
>>70173762Smartphone is a meme. You can use analog phones to make calls, and smartphone is useless for anything else anyway due to microscopic display and generally immature technology.
>>70178012>>Getting information was kind of difficult if you weren't at home. No way to quickly check bus connections, opening hours etc. on the go. You just had to remember stuff...you also forgot we would ask random on the streets to find the places you were trying to get at, and had to stop every 2 minutes asking around because nobody was precise with giving you directions. (where can i find a gas station in this town? etc.)
>>70173762*crack* 19 year old boomer here. Yep, Those were the days. Phone calls and texts only.*sip* Don't make 'em like that anymore.
>>70173964>>70174046It wasn't. This meme is dumb. The iPhone was revolutionary because of software, mainly how you interact with it, which required a capacitive multi-touch screen which the Prada DID NOT HAVE.
>>70180749POO IN LOO >>70174188
>>70180755lol you stupid fucking zoomer. I used to support Windows Mobile devices. They were fucking dogshit. Go shove a stylus up your ass.
>>70173942Use Clover retard.
>>70174976afaik you can't even access files on iphones kek
>>70174178>Cameras were legit terrible qualityCameras in phones were.If you want to take pictures, you buy a camera, not a calling device.>You had to pay for GPS devicesWho doesn't? The extremely reflective screens on phones are a pain to view in sunlight, and they run out of battery way too fast.>Pay for song ring tonesOnly retards did that. You could compose ringtones right in your phone in most Nokia ones. And by the time that feature got removed, you could plug your phone into your PC and put a song in there.>Typing is a pain because number padText messages are dumb, phones are for calls not messages. Anyway, you'd get the hang of it after a while. I could type quite fast back in the day.>but I think QWERTY phones existed?They did and still do.
>>70180766>itard untermesnch>calling anyone else zoomer
>>70181018This.Also, IBM invented the smartphone.
>>70181092iPhone is shit now. I use Android. I was only discussing what set the iPhone apart. I know you're too caught up in stupid /g/ memes to recognize that it did bring something new.
>>70173762Copy of Apple's face ID is a disaster:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=128&v=BGgQ9woZQOgPic: All pre-Apple smartphones copy the Newton. (Yes I know the Newton isn't a phone, I'm not claiming that Apple invented the phone.)
>>70173964Gee wonder why the iPhone took off and the LG Prada didn't, hmmmmmm https://youtu.be/rQnVOrQMjOchttps://youtu.be/GLSNn1tncjg
>>70181160>>70181207See >>70174188 >>70174225 >>70174251
I've had smartphones since 2003.My first smartphone was a Nokia 6600Nokia's UI was very slow and bloated near the end, it was a very annoying device to use.The worst period was the one after the iPhone became a hit but before there was good competition.Between 2007-2010 every company made the worst touch screen phones you can imagine, including Nokia.Nokia made the N97 ("flagship") and the Nokia 5800, both of which were some of the worst phones to ever be created. Resistive touch screens, an UI not made for touch, they didn't even include a GPU. Two years after the iPhone had a fully-GPU accelerated UI at 60fps with a capacitive touch screen.Google's CEO (Eric Schmidt) was on Apple's board of directors, they were supposed to be buddies. Google provided some of the early built-in iPhone software, like Maps. Google found out about the iPhone in advance, and blatantly copied it with Android, which is why they were first to market a serious competitor before Nokia, Microsoft and Blackberry could do it.The existing companies didn't get killed by Apple, they were never selling enough volume to do that. Google used Jewish tricks to get them out of business.
>>70173762Excellent execution my friend
>>70173762People who wanted to use the internet outside carried a laptop to Starbucks for the free WiFi. Also net books where a thing. Also the iPad is what really set people's pants on fire.
>>70173790T9I was writing faster than I'm now on touchscreens.
>>70173822Ahh PMP, now that was a great invention.
>>70175394How old are you?
There were electric vehicles before Tesla but let's be honest, Tesla re-invented the electric car.Same with iPhone. t. 42yr old boomer
>>70173762I'm only 3 years older than you and I can remember what life was like in the early 2000s before Facebook and Youtube existed. Surely you would at least be able to remember the mid-late 2000s when Smartphones either didn't exist or weren't a common necessity like they are now
>>70173782That's just fucking false
>>70173762Another 18 year old zoomer here. Way fucking better.
>>70173964Apple invented smartphones deal with you ugly stupid streetshitter.
The iPhone was probably the first steps in the era of web 2.0 and centralisation, and you know, maybe the people designing the big social sites had some sort of noble goal in their head that they were bringing people together and "saving" them from the old fragmented nature of the internet. But that fragmented, smaller scale, user owned, far more personal level of internet is looking a whole lot more appealing now. Good thing there's still plenty of decent tech forums, but plenty of nerdy communities have suffocated (after all, maintaining a site, paying for it, moderating it, IS tedious) and moved to Facebook, and now to Discord.
>>70173762Was equally shit and people spent more time looking at the tv or listening to cd’s.
>>70176237>people where a lot less stressedNo they weren't.
>>70173762> apple> invented the smart phone> INVENTEDAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHyou zoomers sure are fucking retarded.
>>70176237this is so sad. We live in a society
im pretty fucking old, like over 40 old.. and it just amazes me how technologically crippled zoomers are. the internet generation - with all the information they can get - and they're still fucking stupid. how is that even possible? what went so wrong?
>>70173762apple didn't invent the smartphone
>>70176237compulsive lying: the post
>>70181040>Who doesn't? The extremely reflective screens on phones are a pain to view in sunlight, and they run out of battery way too fast.>start navigation>turn off screen>"turn left">"take the second exit"i used to assume voice navigation would be shit, but i find it makes more sense than a screen most of the time
>>70173762if you had a cellphone, you used it for work or to organize meeting a friend in real lifenowadays people mostly use phones to distract themselves with ads
>>70173762Smartphones were shit up until ~2012.Pre-ICS androids were terrible and worse than feature phones in many ways. I didn't replace my se k800i with xperia until 2013.And don't forget opera mini.
>>70173762How was life before iPhone?Well I used to have nokias with snake then bounce then bounce 3D.Downloading music from eMule then Pirate1005 and then using bluetooth to share with friends. Sharing a song was a pretty long process. Our memory cards were something like 256Mb if we were lucky enough.Cellphones weren't made to connect via wifi and sim card promotion were giving you maximum 50Mb monthly.My home internet was completely crap (i live in italy, "Alice") with 0.5 mbit/s internet you haved to wait the buffer of a youtube video before watching (360p) and if someone called on the home phone the whole internet connection gone down. I used to have facebook just to play pet society, using Messenger (The microsoft's one MSN) to talk with friends and organize football matches.Yahoo was way more used than google and almost every email was hotmail or yahoo.The spread of smartphones begin with galaxy next and also the memes on facebook (the old ones).We used to play flash games or online games like mu.We didn't care a lot of playing online cause we were playing the ps2 all at someone's house.Now everyone's passing time on instagram or games but before smartphone we used to burn bins and firing bombs or playing football (yes I haved a pretty vandalic and funny adolescence and I feel lucky cause I Remember that times as my life's best)
Blackberries were the gold standard. And they had bbm. Even if other brands were better, all your friends used bbm, so you were a social pariah if you didn't have one, then whatsapp broke the hegemony with android and iphone
>>70173837I had 3/4 from that slideMuhfeels
>>70188392how old are you? i never knew any kids with blackberry phones
>>70173762still have my 2008 nokia so pretty much the same tbqh
>>70173762i lived through this whole time and this picture still looks like it's been photoshopped. it's so small
>>70188434I did but I'm Canadian (ie. where RIM is located)
>>7018843422, but I'm from Spain, so maybe it's a different phenomenon. We had no unlimited text plans so BBM took root.BBs were for corporate guys, but there was a time when it kids started getting them
>>70173762>apple invented the smartphoneI still don't own any kind "smartphone", but symbian or winmo started it, not that fruity locked down garbage.
It was fucking awesome, my dude. Every phone had an unique design, there were thousands of it, they were not all just black bricks. The battery was removable, it lasted weeks on end, even the front panels were replaceable. We had fucking 3.5mm, we had physical fucking keyboards.
Normies hadn't ruined the internet yet.It was peak human civilization desu