>Assemble a part listhttps://pcpartpicker.com/>Example gaming builds; click on blue titles to see noteshttps://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/>How to assemble a PChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8gWant help?>State the budget & CURRENCY>Post at least some attempt at a parts list>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)CPUs based on current pricing:>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos)>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs>i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti>R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDTRAM:>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal>All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMPGraphics cards based on current pricing:>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty1080p>GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices>GTX 1070/Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match1440p>GTX 1070/Ti are standard choices>RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match2160p (4K)>RTX 2080 is the standard choice>RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensiveGeneral:>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING>A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor>Bottleneck checkers are worthless>https://rentry.co/pcbg-morePrevious: >>69304068
Im trying to install my 8700k on my z370 board but it feels like too much resistance when I close it again.What do?
>no vga output>not even vga pins on the dvi port
>>69315629push harder faggot.
>>69315631People still use VGA? Time to upgrade, grandma.
>>69315716this is quickly getting out of hand.
>>69315699I didnt want to buy a new monitor yet. And now Im stuck here with no video. Guess i can buy a converter
>>69315716Is this real?
I'm buying a 1070ti Titaniumhow about that fellas
>>69315645Shit nigga, I'm scared. The whole thing creaks.
>>69315754wait for 2060
>>69315800But I'm buying it for $150 cheaper than the 2060's price in my country? It's ~25 days old and unused, from a friend. Transferable warranty and everything.
So it looks like Microcenter just discounted the 2700x to $280 and the 9700K to $230. Which should I go for?
>>69315880You surely mean 9600k
>>69315866wait for Navi
>>69315914I mean 9600k, sorry, typo.
>>69315921>just waitno man, I'm done, I'm buying an XB271HU along with the 1070ti, fuck waiting.
>>69315921some people want to live, you know?
Is Vega 64 good? Found someone dumping their stock for $549, other sellers are offering it for $700+. Sapphire nitro+.
>>69315935looks like you made up your mind already
>>69315949I can also get a 1070Ti for $500
>>69315949Those are near 2080 prices, I would pass.
>>69315949you'll need a new PSU if yours is under 750W, otherwise grab a discounted gtx 1080 instead or wait for rtx 2060
Give me a replacement for my 580 since it die'd 3 months after i bought itNo Nvidia shit thx
Please rate my maximum retard build, 32 GB RAM is non negotiable and the motherboard was after a full day of filtering through Gaymurr shit.Also I'm having difficulty picking out monitors.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cvQnhy
>>69316003how did it die?
>>69315963cope, Navi is vaporware
>>69316023There is nothing that I would not consider wrong with this build.10/10
>>69315986Cheapest 2080 I could find is for 840 dollars.>>69315988I got a good enough PSU but it got coil whine so I was thinking of getting a new one anyway. 1080 are selling for $750 or so.
>>69316023>tfw I could order this right now but I don't really need itfeels good being employed desu
>>69316086try 2nd hand, I got mine for 400€ off Amazon refurbished
>>69316030Mmmhhh>>69316039No fucking ideaI was playing normally, then boom my computer dedI tried to restart it, but it was completely dead, no bios, no fans spinning, nothingI removed the GPU and am now using intel graphics and everything is going fine
>>69316023Gee anon, how come your mom let's you have 3 4k monitors?
>>69316086Is that in Australian dollars? Keep an eye on /r/buildapcsales and you'll find them from $600-650 once a week usually.
>>69316116Why are you moaning at me? No I was asking if you tried to warranty it. Any decent company would replace a card that died so soon.
>>69316144American, I live in a socialist shithole. I could order one from amazon but I would most likely have to pay a 30% toll.
>>69316161I'm moaning because I didn't think about that The GPU is an xfx, are they a decent company?
>>69316181Explain. I live in Jew York and they always sales tax my amazon, and I thought that was bad
>>69316199No idea about xfx, you could contact them anyway then tell us how it went.
>>69316116Did you try putting the GPU back in after?Because that could also be a motherboard or power supply issue.A dead GPU should let the computer power on, it just wont post or somethings just wont display anything
>>69316181>>69316086Keep an eye out on newegg. Sometimes they add a 60 dollar off code on their 2080's
>>69316254>Did you try putting the GPU back in after?Yes, still no signs of lifeIf it were the PSU why then everything works fine if I use the intel graphic card?
>>69316199from what I heard xfx are very cool about their warranty, give em a call.
>>69316326>>69316199actually before you do that, can you test the gpu with another pc to make sure it's really the gpu that's the problem?
>>69315574Never undervolted a gpu before. Is it worth doing it on my rx 590? What are the actual benefits?
Currently working on a fairly modest build.Probably either a 6 core ryzen while I wait for 3000 series or maybe an 8 core and wait to see what Intels 7nm offerings look like. But where I need help is monitors. I do hobbyist level photography. And I've always done everything on 1080p. But I recently upgraded my snappyboi and now I'm dealing with editing 24 megapixel images instead of 18 and all the scrolling gets tiresome. So >Tldr Thinking of going 4k monitor. I don't game much so gaming at 4k isn't a concern. The extra screen space is for photo editing. I do game occasionally but am perfectly happy gaming at 1080pSo questions are:>any particular brands/models to avoid>any essential features>does it stress the GPU to 4k levels to run 1080p windowed game over a 4k desktop ?>does switching back and forth between 1080p full screen game and 4k desktop hurt the monitor?>am I better off aiming for happy middle with full time 1440?
>>69316321>If it were the PSU why then everything works fine if I use the intel graphic card?Lower power consumption.Motherboard could be dead PCIe slot too.Well you should probably call it in on warranty anyway it's mostly likely the GPU if plugging it back in just straight up kills everything. I'm just really skeptical about this sort of shit because every time i have a problem with my computer it's always the last thing it seems to be.
Redpill me on reference blower style cards. Most of the vegas I find available are these. Will I have to buy and install a separate cooling system?
Let's say that a used GPU which has been used for just gaming is selling for $230: how much would you pay for a GPU that's been used for mining?
>>69316458I was going to get the vega 56 but opted for a new rx 590 instead. The blower style cards seem like they run way too hot and loud, and that's the last thing I want. I saw a non reference 56 on ebay and it was snapped up within an hour. I'm going to wait until they become more available at a lower price on ebay.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zm3Xq4r8 my poverty build, plz and ty.
>>69316479Zero. Cryptofags stay broke.
>>69316495>going APU without using dual channel memoryGo 2x4gb
>>69316493Not a bad idea desu, I'm basically looking for the final boss of high refresh 1080p and a Vega 56 or 64 seem like more than enough.
>>69316495Also you dont need a 550W psu for that build. Not even close.
>>69316524>>69316545I'm accommodating for future upgrades.
>>69316536My original plan was to buy a 1070, but I already have a 4k freesync monitor so I opted for less power. I've only been able to test games for 20 minutes so far but I feel that I have made the correct decision so far. I'm still able to run gta v in 1440p 60fps, though it drops to 45+ when I go completely off road etc.Pretty sure vega 56 would destroy anything at 1080p from the little research that I have done. Doubt that you'd need the 64, unless you're playing at really high framerates.
can i control my case fans based on gpu temps? speedfan only detects my hard drives
>>69316586https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kPN43bFixed your build bro
I want to buy a 250GB ssd for my laptop: MX500 or 860 EVO? the MX500 is slightly cheaper(€5 less)
Which RGB ram looks the best, Gskill TridentZ or Corsair Vengeance Pro?
>>69315988>750W for Vega 64Why are retards still suggesting this? 650W is plenty and even 600W or 550W can power it just fine given that you're not running a CPU with a massive TDP and a trillion fans and waterpumps. People have tested actual power draw from the wall on various systems and most single GPU systems can run on 450W. Get a good quality PSU first and a high wattage psu second.
>>69316764>Running your psu at 80% is fine guys!
Why doesnt /pcbg/ recomend the i5 8400 for gaming ?
>>69316880Because this is amd general
>>69315716>Leather jacket lady
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qxdPdXhow did i do?
>>69316931needs more RAM
>>69316880>why doesnt /pcbg/ recommend 2600k for gamingBecause theyre both obsolete. If you have one already its still good enough but not worth buying new.
>>69316880>IntelYou make me sad sir ⋞_⋟
>>69316880Just get an i9 bro
>>69316880Salt mostly.An 8400 is pretty decent for the price for gaming
>>69316880Overpriced, dead end platform.
>>69316764that sounds really uncomfortable
>>69313735Budget is weird because I'm on Mexico and it's around 35k MXN. All of the parts on both builds are pretty much the same around 33k + the case and cooling so that seals the deal.
Is this ok? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XjxdP3
What is up with these cheap EVGA 2080's and 2080 ti's? How come those are cheaper than the other cards in the same series? Are they worse or something?Asking because I was gonna just get this EVGA 2080 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487415Should I?
>>69317179>7700kLmaooo even 8400 is better than that piece of shit.
>>69317215They sort out the ones that can hold a stable overclock and charge more for them. Even the base model 2080 will kick ass.
>>69317089>buying components solely for gaming>6 cores on a ded socket in 2019>swiss cheese security
>>69317215Lower binned chips.They're like 5% slower than the FE and higher end 3rd party cards
Any recs for a decent 256GB ssd?
>>69317254can also spend more if it's worth it
Which one of these 4 is the best one? They are all the same price. The blower just a tiny bit more expensive but it's irrelevant.
>>69317302I'd go with the PNY but they are all probably identical really
>>69317302ASUS is the best board partner I see there. I did have coil whine on one card though.
>>69317240It's not that simple though.AMD is:>Promises and Just Wait™ for optimisation and better processors>Need better cooler, mobo and RAM to beat the 8400And of course people dont use their computers soley for gaming, it's just most people dont game and also transcode a lot of video or 3d render. The other shit they do is shitpost on 4chan or opening up 36 tabs in chrome, both things that dont really benefit from having mroe than 2 cores really.
Let's say I have some cheap-ass DDR4 RAM (2133-2400MHz), how fucked am I realistically if I am to buy 2600X? I've read some terrible shit like there's no point in buying 2600X with cheap RAM.
>>69317394Literally running 2133 overclocked to 2400 with a 2600x right now. It's fine.I will upgrade but I'm in no hurry.
>>69317394People act like your processor won't work if you don't have fast ram, which is retarded. Ryzen just scales better than any other processors with faster ram, so its a possible upgrade path with real benefits. Buy the cheap ram now, xmp it like anon said, and upgrade if you feel like it down the line.
>>69317385>And of course people dont use their computers soley for gaming, it's just most people dont game and also transcode a lot of video or 3d render. The other shit they do is shitpost on 4chan or opening up 36 tabs in chrome, both things that dont really benefit from having mroe than 2 cores really.so most would be better off with ryzen 5 which is $50 cheaper with insignificant decrease in ipc for average users.
>>69317235So, the 8700 is the better choice here?
>>69317394https://youtu.be/u827fdCOCao?t=387It's not a ryzen 2, but it's the best test i've seen using a mid range GPU instead of a 1080ti or something which doesn't accurately represent what the average poor fag is going to get right now Basically it's manageable, but it'll become more of an issue as gpus get faster. What's actually notable about ryzen is that slow ram even slows down framerate when the GPU should be the bottleneck, which doesn't happen with intel, that's why people recommend faster RAM.Also because at current prices 16GB 3000MHz is like $10 more than the slowest shit you can get which is more than worth the performance difference
>>69317480Sure if you can make a ryzen 5+mobo+ram combo $50 cheaper than this:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LbptdX
>>69316868Running a Vega 64 on 650W doesn't use 80% retard, and even then 80% is nothing to worry about, just don't stress your PSU for hours on end. That's why I'm telling you to get a good quality PSU that can handle the load. I'll admit going with 550W or 600W is pushing it, but 750W is complete overkill.
>>69317605https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B7CpRJregularly goes for $150 on amazon
Just upgraded my 7970 to a 2070 and apparently the HDMI or display port to dvi adapters don't work with my catleap. Not going to buy one of those $100+ adapters so what monitor should I replace it with? Considering getting an ultrawide and then using the current Asus main monitor vertically. Currently both the Asus and catleap are 27" 1440p. I would like to stay at 1440p and 27" (if it's not an ultrawide)
>>69317710Yeah i'd agree most would be better off with that.I still dont think the knee jerk "8400 is never appropriate" response is justified though.What you just built is definitely slower in gaming than the $50 more expensive thing I put together, but unless you're putting a 1070ti or a future mid range gpu in it, you probably wouldn't notice.
what makes the xb271hu the best 1440p 144hz monitor?
>>69317800you're paying more for a locked chipset without the option to upgrade in the future. Intel are resting on their laurels.
>>69317991It's also faster
>>69315716>Only 19 fansGuess I'll wait for the 20 fan series
How sturdy are PSU cables? I tried to "cable manage" as best I could, but some cables are still bent and compressed pretty heavily. Will they break one day? I never opened a laptop but I guess it's pretty cramped in there and the cables are fine.
>>69318035again, 25% price increase for 15% performance gains in games. If you NEED the extra performance (most wouldn't) you'd be better off saving up for an unlocked 8600k or otherwise.
>>69318170>720p benchmarkYou're fucking kidding me.
I want to spend $400 at the very most on a gpu, and I'd rather get a slower chip by a better quality manufacturer than a faster chip that's some cheap shit aftermarket card. Am I realistically looking at a Vega 64 and that's about it?
>>69318170more like 1-5% at resolutions that actually get used.
Thoughts on this Monoprice RTD2795 vs an LG UK650? The only review I can find is http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/monoprice-27'-4k-rtd2795-ultra-slim-aluminum-ips-review-matte-27'-3840x2160-ahva/Where he rates it higher than LG panels. Nobody else has mentioned it except to complain how it's AHVA not IPS.Only leaning towards LG because I can't find other Monoprice reviews. I really don't want to fuck up and buy another bad monitor.
>>69318228lower resolution minimizes the gpu bottleneck when comparing processor performance. The gap closes at resolutions the average person games at. We aren't mindlessly recommending ryzen because AMD is the underdog, pound for pound it's the better value processor.
>>69318230>Vega 64>$400You looking for used cards or are Vega prices in the U.S. so much different from Europe?
Jesus AMD cpus fall in value fast.I just sold my 1600 for 155AUD when i paid $320 for it in 2017.7700K still sells for $400+ used when it was around $470 on sale when it was new
>>69318309Why are you going with a 4k monitor? It's always seemed like 4k is overkill and 1440p is more of the sweet spot
>>69316237Sorry, I meant I converted it to american dollaridos, I thought it would be obvious with the "socialist shithole" part
>>69318230>>69318393$400 blower vega 64 is alright but you can get aftermarket 56 cards for significantly less. I believe the tri-fan powercolor card can be had for $330 on sale.
Can we all agree on that most cases and most monitors simply suck?
>>69318421Mainly for editing purposes, but also I do eventually want to play games at 4k. It looks dense as hell and awesome. The only reason I don't go bigger is because I find 32" monitors uncomfortable
>>69318509first time building or long time poster? because that's a pretty shit build you got yourself there
>>693185093.90/10Your motherboard isn't compatible out of box with your CPU
>>69318546first time build
>>69318509check incompatibilities, it says so right there that you need an 8th gen cpu to flash your bios so it's 9th gen compatible
>>69318509>Red ROG stickerAm i being memed?
>>69318597it says that SOME z370 motherboards need gen8
>>69318629it depends what bios it's shipped with, chances are it'll need the flash anyway
>>69318629Because some motherboards have a "Bios Flashback" button which can do it without a CPU, and some will get revisions with the newer bios, but these are usually unlabeled.
Hey guys I'm looking to get a new monitor gtx 1070 Budget $300 off amazon Mainly going to be used for gaming
>>69316381not really, might save a few wattsonly worth on vega, where you actually get better performance doing it
>>69318683>>69318661Thanks guys, ill look it up
>>69315574Where has Vega 56 gone from under 1440p? It's better than a 1070 non-Ti but can be found for cheaper (since the post is also literally pointing out that used card can be had for a steal).
How are GPU prices as a whole doing since the crypto meme started ending? Haven't been on the market for a few years. Are prices still up, stable, or on their way down?
Is hyper 212 evo still good? like compared to newer coolers of a similar value
>>69318822There was a sweet spot before the RTX launch where all the prices were great but now pascal is selling out only the mid range AMD GPUs and one specific vega 56 is decently priced.
>>69318824Yes. The 212 Black Edition looks pretty and performs great for the price. Should be similar or slightly better than the Wraith Prism AMD is boxing with the R7 2700X chips.
Is this good enough to emulate Zelda BOTW?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RKpYYT
>>69318824Not suitable for intel housefires anymore and just generally not great.
>>69318890>1800x>worse than stock aftermarket coolerWhy
Is it still necessary to undervolt a Vega 64?
what do with my new ebin ryzen sticker?
>>69318918Idk, pcpartpicker said it doesn't come with a cooler.
Trying to install win10 through usb. It won't allow me to install because pic. I trying to format the drive for a fresh install.How can it not be right if there's already win10 installed? I can't click on any options either.
>>69318938Ah you're right, figured it would since 2700x does. It's still a poor choice anyway.
>>69318890There's no way that motherboard is going to be fine with an 8 core CPU. I wouldn't even trust it with a 2600x.Last i checked, which was a while ago admittedly, CEMU was a bitch with AMD GPUs.Also you want frequency more than cores, an OC'd 2600 would be faster than what you have there. you could get a better cooler and mobo with the price difference
>>69318981Windows 10 has a cmd prompt. Use diskpart to format.
>>69318890>>69319003Oh yeah i wasn't really looking for it before but you dont need mroe than 16gb of RAM for CEMU or most things really, and you'll want 3000MHz RAM minimum, faster if you can manage it.And get a decent SSD. a 500GB MX500 or Samsung EVO 860 would be good, at the 250GB minimum
>>69318934Make a cute crayon drawing of Amada, and use the sticker to tape it to your refridgerator.
>>69318981Delete the other partitions, one of them (prob 1) has mbr partition table already and efi install requires gpt.
>>69318890here fixed it for youhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/xW6ZCb
>>69315574>kernel panic at the disco.jpg
>>69318822Alot better. Got a msi 1080(not top model second to top) for $450 off craigslist. Was hard to pass up coming from a 1060 6gb with a 144hz monitor.
is the memory still gonna work if it's not on the qvl list of the board?
>>69318981>>69319053>Windows 10 has a cmd prompt. Use diskpart to format.Similar to this guy you can actually convert the partition into gpt from cmd.Soooo.... Google it.I did it like 2 or 3 months ago
>>69319993>is the memory still gonna work if it's not on the qvl list of the board?It's a gambleBut for the most part it'll work. If not it's your fault
I'm thinking about buying a $10 HP/Dell/Lenovo mother board.But, even though the motherboard looks like it's micro ATX, the motherboard power connectors aren't 24 pin.Is there a way I can power the mother board without the matching proprietary power supply?
Hmm... Any tips?
>>69320060gt 710?Sure you could at least squeeze in a gt 1030 or a used gtx 750ti
>>69320036there's a site that seels 10$ adapters to convert normal power pins to proprietary ones, the usual Dell and HP stuff.
Realistically how good of a desktop would a pi make?
>>69320221You will have a bad time
>>69320205ThanksWould you recommend it? Is it worth the $10 or should I just buy a $60 motherboard with a standard 24 pin? What's the site?
Why isn't based the 2060 on OP yet?
Best laptop for gaming/streaming and school?
>>69318888>>69318898Yes and No. Got it.
>see a part on sale>all the reviews say its shitevery fuckin time
>>69320291it's moddiy.com but amazon sometimes has them too. A fitting 60$ motherboard would be the better choice though.
>>69320221Realistically it might be a bit better than an ancient single core x86 like a pentium 4, but far inferior to something you can get for under $50 like an old Athlon X2 or core 2 duo Dell
>>69320060>9900K with that moboIf the thing even boots at all it's gonna poke a crater on those shitty 3 phases vrm u best be trolling sempai
>>69317769No one has any monitor recommendations? Also considering 4k as i do photo editing but 4k monitors seems like a meme sort of
>>69320643Highly recommend 4K! gnome3 looks super smooth and aestheticLet a 27" 4K LG 60fps IPS model, they are best price to quality ratio
Why hasn't msata replaced the m.2 ssd factor? Just wondering.
>>69320686Are you going to watch the Pride parade in VR?
>>69320716?mSATA was the shittier predecessor to M.2.
>>69320672I run windows 10 because i mostly play games and use adobe products so linux unfortunately doesnt work for me very well anymore. I sort of want something thats above 60Hz, though not sure my 3570k and the rtx 2070 can do 4k over 60fps anyways. This 27UD68P at under $450 is somewhat tempting i just always think ultrawides look so nice, though i never see them in setups with a second vertical monitor so maybe they lose that luster in that situation
>>69320937you don't deserve good things in lifebuy yourself 240HZ 80ppi ULTRAwide and get eye canceryou pajeet feeding brainlet
>>69320976I understand the hate for windows buts what's wrong with some games or ultrawides? It seems like it could be nice to have practically 2 monitors in one, especially if you werent on windows and had a nice tiling wm. I also definitely prefer linux over windows and i do have an ssd with a distro installed in my computer i just never boot into it because the programs i primarily use my computer for don't work there, or didnt last i checked which admittedly was a few years ago now
>>69321132their height is too low
>>69321141I though if you got something around 35" the height was similar to a normal 27" monitor? At least thats the way the ones people in my office had seemed but maybe thats because the 16:9 monitors we have are smaller that 27"
about to order this, r8/h8/masturb8https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/nz2MQZFor 1080p gaming (mainly Rising Storm 2, War Thunder and Forza Horizon 4) and on a serparate monitor 4k media streaming and such things. Thingen about gaming on the big 4k monitor but GPUs are expensive, might drop in Ryzen 3XXX CPU in a year or so.
>>69315574Can you do an open design with a CPU cooling fan? Water and motherboards sounds like a bad combination.
Does Vodka cooling work?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYTJfLyo_vE
>>69321636what's wrong with biostar?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6dNHZRThese are the main components of my current build. Can it handle 1440p 144hz esports games (csgo/league/fortnite/etc)?Also, can I plug a 1440p 144hz monitor into the 1060 and a 1080p 60hz into my motherboard?
>>69321772bios looks a little dated and there's only a 4 pin cpu power connector so overclocking is very limited but you weren't going to be pushing it anyway in an small form factor machine. The asrock board has a few more features for the same price. also there's a powercolor 580 8gb for 160, cheaper than that 570.
I TRIED TURNING IT ON AND I CAN'T GET A SIGNAL ON MY MONITOR AND THE COMPUTER WON'T TURN OFF UNLESS I UNPLUG IT WHAT THE FUCK YOU GUYS SAID THIS WAS EASY
>>69321963not sure about the 580, seems like a pretty shitty model but the Asrock board might be a good idea, they take their sff boards pretty seriously.
>>69322065Checked all the cables? Sure you plugged the monitor in the right output? Post some pics.>>69321805You can't use motherboard display outputs when you have a dedicated GPU installed. Why would you not just plug both monitors into the same GPU?
>>69315716The ciiiiiircle of liiiiife
>>69322113I was worried that the gpu might be too weak for both while I'm running a game on the 1440p monitor
>>69315574I want to buy a new motherboard, CPU and RAM, if I see nothing about heatsinks, do I have to buy one or it comes with the motherboard?
6700k or something with more cores?
Is 900 to 1.2k dollars enough for a great gaming PC?
Ok I just skimmed through this thread and I can't even believe how dumb you "people" are. What the FUCK happened to /g/?
>>69322194When does the cost-performance ratio for builds usually start dipping? 900? 1000?
>>69322186for a good one yes, not a great one
Sorry for the retarded question but should I leave vsync on with freesync or do I turn it off?
>>69315716Why is Jackie Chan wearing lipstick?
>>69322257How much should I spend for a great one?>>69322230Also, bump
I upgraded almost all my hardware because I thought I could get win10pro license back when I log into my MS account but they are cunts about it.Am I fucked? You think support might actually help me out? I already formatted my drive but could possibly cobble my old hardware together and try to transfer my license from there?Or should I just fucking pirate
>>69322291great is around 2000-2300 I'd say (always assuming you have a monitor)
>>69315800>350 msrp>reality is it will cost over 400>6GB fucking vram at that price pointNo thanks.
>>69318822Much better. Snattched a liquid Vega 64 for 380 yuros.
Which model 2070 and 2080 would you guys suggest? Gonna be picking up a 2070 for the girlfriends PC and a 2080 for mine. I've been browsing but in reviews theres people also talking about shit being DOA and display ports not working, etc.
What's the optimum size for a 1366x768 monitor? I'm poor.
Are Power Color's RX 580's good? It's the cheapest one on Newegg Canada (around $183 USD) and it comes with DMC5 and RE2 or should I get something more expensive like Sapphire? >>69322556Don't, cheapest 1080p is only $10ish more than 768p
>>69322628three stars usually means bad cooling
>RX 580 prices went upWHY DID I WAIT?! I shouldn't have listened
>>69322364Holy fuck that's a lot.
>>69322628Ok, what's optimum size for 1080p?
>>69322721Im assuming it maybe 24-27-ish, some1 correct me if I wrong
This might some fucking stupid but are there 5.25" expansions that add I/O for my case? I'd like to add more USB-C ports and the AORUS Pro I'm purchasing only has a single one
Everything look ok here?
>>69315574I just got an almost completed build from a friend up north a few weeks ago, and just installed the missing parts today. Had to reset the CMOS in order for it to stay powered.My room's upstairs and I live in an apartment. I was thinking of buying a wifi adapter for a PCIe slot so that I could connect to the wifi like normal and since I can't go drilling holes in the walls or floors.Is there any other option, such as connecting to a wifi extender with an ethernet cord, or is the adapter the only way in my situation?
>>69322788yes there are, I can only think of Silverstone right now but there must be tons of other brands and no name products that do that.
Is it just me or is onboard audio really good now. I just bought a new motherboard and the audio to my headphones sounds just as good as my USB DAC. My DAC was less than $100 but still. There's no background hiss, the sound is dynamic, lots of stereo and instrument separation, no distortion. It sounds pretty great desu.
Best PC case with no window and a PSU shroud?
>>69322883Yeah I saw those, what I'm wondering is if I can use them without disabling the USB 3.0 I/O my case already has since the AORUS only has one 3.0 connection header. Do connection header splitters exist?
>>69322910I'm using a Realtek ALC1220 it's pretty fucking great.
>>69323007I like the Define R6 but it's also fairly big
>>69323034I like it too. A little on the expensive side though?
>>69323022many of these actually come with a USB header loop so you don't lose the header. If the Silverstone one doesn't there are others that use a PCIe connector with a cable to connect the ports (I think Asus does that), I'd just check out all the bigger case manufactureres and if that doesn't work just go to amazon and try the chinesium ones.
>>69323022>>69322883Oh my fuck I found some PCI-E expansions that add 3.0/3.1 case headers.
>>69318419>Sells for that much
>>69318419Well, every AMD chip fits in their slot, meanwhile intel people are locked in their generation so there's still demand for used.
>>69322328Well whatever then.Where do I get a win10pro key for cheap without getting scammed?
>>69323127>$230 for a i7-4790k, a 5 year old CPUthe used market for intel chips is horseshit.
Best budget GPU for £200? Or should I wait for navi
>>69322328Do you have any key at all? I went through this and they made me dig up my old Win7 key. If you have it do win+R and run slui.exe 3
What's the cheapest 4k 144hz monitor I can get? Also, does 144hz even mean anything if I'm just going to watch movies and browse the web?
>>69323203I got my win10pro key from upgrading from my pirated win7.
>>69323222Yeah you're probably fucked. MS phone support isn't as lax as they used to be but you could give it a shot I guess. I would just pirate or shoot for gray market keys
>>69322880>apartment>2 floorswut. Just buy a stupidly long ethernet cable
>>69323149No idea about 20XX, but my evga ftw3 1080ti has been solid since I bought it over a year ago. Would trust them to have not shit products. Look at the cooler and decide from there
>>69315601For when you want to have a pride parade right in your very own home.
>>69323271Nigga i'm not gonna put a cord out through my room down the stairs and into the living room.i'd have to like staple the cord onto the wall/ceiling so nobody trips over it.
Fuck who ever seriously recommended this to me. I could build this entire setup and save over a grand.
>>69323322>gaming workstation PCY tho?
>>69323313>Nigga i'm not gonna put a cord out through my room down the stairs and into the living room. Why not?>i'd have to like staple the cord onto the wall/ceiling so nobody trips over it.Okay, so?
How much better are modern CPUs compared to i5 3570k? Wondering if its time to upgrade.
>>69323426Also, how bad is 1333MHz ram? I currently have 16Gb (2x 8Gb) and am wondering if i should get rid of it and get 32Gb of something faster or just add another 16. I believe you shouldnt mix ram speeds, right?
>>69323322https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yXd2GGYep pretty easy, and I wasn't even trying to cut corners.
I guess the z390 pro wifi has an Io shield that can't be removed, and I can't figure out how to get it flush with the case. Is this right?
>tfw i7 2600k and 290xI play at 1080p, but I assume if I go up to a 1440p monitor my current setup is going to struggle? Should I just wait it out one more year or has gpu/cpu's reached a stable 60fps @ 4k? I've had my current rig for almost 8 years now minus the 290x which I got in 2014.
>>69323574Wait until the mid year to see what the new Ryzen offers.
>>69323574I just upgraded a 7970 (also have a 290x in another computer, basically the same card) to a 2070. I havent run anything on my 2k tv but 1440p is definitely better. Also got it so i cant actually run vr as the old card struggled sometimes
>>69315574is r3 2200G + rx570 PC for 500 aud a good price?
>Dark Rock Pro 4 is a bit janky to install with those clips>Dark Base Pro 900 rev.2 PSU shroud is kind of a pain to install/remove>be quiet! doesn't include a nice bag for all the cables for their power supplySo far I'm a bit disappointed with be quiet! I don't think I'll be purchasing their products anymore.
>>69323632But are they quiet?
Will a 1070ti last me 2 years if I want to gayme at 1440p high-ultra settings? For 2019 I'll be playing Sekiro, Doom and maybe the new Metro game, that's it.
>>69316023Thanks for the responses. One last thing, I really don't want to bother with AIO cooling, is the 212 with the ML140s in that case enough for the 9700k? I don't plan on overclocking.
>>69323632Should have bought a CORSAIR PSU.
>>69323976This PSU is a pain in the ass to install too. I don't even know if I'm doing it right. The documentation sucks.
>>693239571.5 anon, as my 1070 got shitted by 2060 already and my 1070 will barely run anything ultra 1080p for just a year. And I just bought this for 5 months ago.
>>693239981070 was already almost two years old when you bought it.
>>69324012Still wishes I didn't bought this shit instead of 2060, fucking nvidia memed me and I thought 2060 wouldn't be this much jump from their predecessor
>>693239981.5 works for me. I just don't want to buy the overpriced RTX shite.
>>69323998> my 1070 will barely run anything ultra 1080p for just a year.absolute nonsense. My 1070 runs everything insanely well, and I doubt upcoming games will tax it at all. kys. Witcher 3 with mods runs hilariously fast
How do I mount LL140's? This screw doesn't even fit. Do I need a mount of some sort
>>69323177Probably an rx 580 at that price
>>69324096Another pic, pls help
Stupid questions, but my mobo is patched with meltdown thingy on the bios update, can I undo that by downgrade to the old bios update or is it stuck on cpu's microcode forever? I want to try this because I tried to disable windows's meltdown patch and I got a better performance.
>>69324096fucking noob manwhy won't the screws that came with the fan not fit? Makes no sense, you're doing something wrong.
>>69324225Nah. I dont think my case supports them
>>69315574I left my RAM and GPU out on my wooden desk for a few weeks because I had to wait for some new parts to come in, I want to get the dust off but some spergers told me I shouldn't use canned gas (electronic duster) because of static. Do I have to wipe everything down with alcohol and microfiber or is it really okay to just blast the shit off and call it good?
>>69324372I blast my computer with an air blower every day, doesn't harm anything. Go for it.
>>69324291Yeah, Idk. I have an H500 but genuinely see no way to mount two front 140mms
are we going to see price drops in 10-series nvidia gpu's?I think a 1070 would fit me just fine, but a good one is basically as much as a 2060 is going to cost
>>69323566holy fuck lmao bro u pushed it all the way through the window u didnt need to do that, dont drag it across the standoffs, I had to pick mine up and place it right while holding the edges of the board
>>69324393Ask lebbit and tomshardware forums and other places, you'll definitely get a response. Maybe mail NZXT or Corsair too.
>>69324411I got it. Just pissed pissed about these fans
>>69324401Nope, only choice is to buy used, it's what I did.
>>69324401Buy 2060 or anything better than 1070, just don't buy any craps below 1070ti
What are the best mice these days w/ flawless sensors and whatnot? I see all sorts of new shit on the market and have no idea the actual quality of any of it. Not MMO gaming mice bullshit, though.
Holy shit /g/ I need to vent but I don't want to shit up your board with my stupid sob story so this looks like a decent thread for it>2015>Decide to build a new computer from scratch so I can play Total War Warhammer>Spend about 800 USD on a strong new computer, this was before cryptos so ram and stuff was nice and cheap>Never built a PC before>Goof the processor cooling unit install to the tune of fucking up two of the four pins on the stock Intel cooler and putting a scratch into the motherboard near the cpu that fortunately only damaged the plastic and no circuitry>Thing boots and runs just fine anyways>Until about a month later when it starts to just not turn on or do literally anything when I press the power button>The only thing that fixes it is resetting the CMOS by pulling out the motherboard's battery, waiting a few seconds, putting it back in and mashing the power button until the machine turns on>This becomes a recurring problem; the computer runs fine for two months or so then refuses to respond to the power button at all>I still power through it, shit's fine when it works>Fast forward to December 2018>Motherboard finally gives out completely, every other component is just fineNever buy from ECS, that's a tip from a brainlet to you free of charge>Spend another few hundred dollarydoos on a new motherboard, ssd, OEM install of Windows 10, ram (new mobo only takes ddr4) and processor (the one in my old motherboard was fine but it wouldn't fit in the current gen motherboard)>Don't fuck up the processor install this time>In fact I do everything literally perfectly, absolutely pro grade assembly job>Shit turns on when I press the power button>Shit boots win10 in like fifteen seconds>Shit loads games so fast I don't have time to go to the bathroom>Shit's cash
>>69323574You'll definitely not be able to get the same settings/FPS you were getting at 1080pThere's not much to upgrade to though now 1070s and up are running out of stock.The performance hit from 1080p to 1440p is about 2x, a vega 56 isn't quite that much faster but it's the best you can do right now so it's either that or paying exorbitant fees for vega 64 or Nvidia. Or of course, Just Wait™CPU's fine though. Resolution doesn't affect CPU load and an OC'd 2600K isn't going to bottleneck a Vegaish level of performance at 1440p in all but a couple super badly optimised games like Asscreed Odyssey
>>69324557cont.>Suddenly start getting hang crashes during games>Then watching youtube videos>Then while lurking 4chan>A series of events leads me to believe the issue is with my new ram sticks>Acquire new ram>Doesn't solve the problem>Suddenly realize it could be an issue with my graphics card from 2015>Pull that shit out and use integrated graphics>No crashes all day longThe worst part is that I don't know if my pcie slot is dead or it's my graphics card. I did everything right and I still got fucked.
>>69323632eat a cock and die zoomer
Want to build a decent pc for gaming. Have about <500usd. Spoonfeed me, I have peripherals, and can upgrade those later based on need/performance. Is this a good deal on a gpu https://flash.newegg.com/product/N82E16814930005?SID=e73510ee162411e9b17076a70f53cfb20INT&AID=10446076&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-Slickdeals%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-Slickdeals+LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=12087162&PID=4485850&SID=e73510ee162411e9b17076a70f53cfb20INT&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Slickdeals+LLC&cjevent=e75bf57d162411e981e301630a1c0e14
>>69324401Nope. There might be one or 2 sales left in the 1070s before they'll never reach reasonable prices again, and in a month or so 1060s will all start increasing in price as well.Nvidia explicitly made the 20 series prices so shit so they could sell surplus 10 series without dropping prices much.
>>69324568Brainlet here. Can you try using the graphics card on the other pcie slot? I doubt your graphics card fucked your first build though.
>>69324662it's a microATX motherboard, there is no other pcie slot unfortunately
>>69324568Try running prime 95 and furmark for 30 minutes with the new gpu.If it crashes again it might be your PSU
>>69324688Oh i thought you put a new GPU in for some reason.But still run the CPU+iGPU stress test anyway to try and get power consumption up to browsing with GPU installed levels
>>69324615eat shit you fucken boomer
>>69324568how can I view my computer specs like that? What software is that?
>>69324658So when the fuck should I upgrade my GPU? Nvidia keeps fucking their consumers in the ass and AMD isn't much better releasing a piece of shit GPU at the same price point. Is AMD controlled competition or are they just incompetent as fuck?
>>69324761Google speccy, keep in ccleaner is bloatware
any aus anons have experience with fast tech prebuilt computers?
>>69324781thanks m8, I thought my gpu was suppose to be 3.5 and not 4gb or is it lying? holy shit my ram is slow as fuck
>>69324768Radeon 7 is just a binned Instinct MI60, they dont have many to sell so they set the price high so they dont all sell out in 30 seconds. Sorry for the wall of text, just check the last paragraph if you only care about the "when" not the "why"The reason AMD hasn't released anything better is two fold. First, they seem to be having some kind of problem scaling GCN up above 64EU which is a problem because they can't take advantage of 7nm's increased density and efficiency and have to release a product solely based around 7nm's performance (frequency) improvements, which is only around 30%. And secondly, They also seem to be having trouble getting products in volume at clocks as high as Nvidia, meaning all other factors equal, Nvidia doesn't have to use as much die area to get the same performance which drives down costs.As for when, no one really knows. 7nm is a premium node right now. Yields are low and costs are high due to competition, which is probably why AMD is launching Ryzen 3000 so much later in the year than many people expected. Nvidia is definitely not going to make any moves until AMD does. They're quite happy to sit on cheapo 12nm until 2020 if they can get away with it. There's some rumors they're going to release some 11 series cards which will just be 20 series with the RTX disabled which might bring prices down to somehting sane, but the only one we "think" we "know is coming" is the 1160 but that could end up to be vaporware.My guess for the earliest we'll see new AMD stuff is August. But unless they blow it out of the park, like 50-60% faster than Nvidia at every performance level then you shouldn't buy it because Nvidia's 7nm will be so much faster and will come way quicker than AMD competition does. if it is 50-60% faster than nvidia current shit then go for it because Nvidia wont be able to get much better than that out of a 12nm-7nm jump so it'll be pretty even.
quick question guysPutting this wireless adapter card in between the Dark Rock Pro 4 and my RTX 2080 ti is retarded, right?
>>69325034You should be good.
>>69324953Appreciate the detailed post. So you believe Navi will come out this year? And if it does only to buy it if performs about 50% better than Nvidia? What if they're trash, i e same performance for the same price? When will Nvidia's monopoly end? Will AMD actually release fair priced GPUs? I'm willing to pay like €800-€900 for the top of the line GPU, but like a minimum of €1200 is insane.
>>69325063I took it out and put it in the slot below the video card. I don't want any weird heat issues because of that.
Hey guys I think my graphic card may be dying, I'm getting lag in games that used to run fine, videos stutter and i can't update the drivers, even a full uninstall / reinstall and it didn't work. Every time I try to update drivers the installation fails and my screen turns to like 680 x 480p. It's a GTX 970. Wat do?
>>69325095If they're trash it means another bad years for buying GPUs unless Nvidia shows mercy.I think AMD relegating Navi to another GCN means they're not focussing on graphics much right now, which is fair. They're actually winning the fight in CPUs so instead of fighting on 2 fronts and losing both make sure you win one and see if the other is salvagable later.So if Navi sucks I dunno where it goes from there. they might have a winner of an architecture on the backburner that'll blow everyone away and Nvidia might not have any answer for it because they've been bumming around with cars for too long or something. Or they might have fuck all and just get pushed out of the industry and sell off their patents when intel enters the market. It could go anywhere at this point
>>69325164I'm really hoping AMD shoves a cock down Intel throat with their 3rd generation Ryzen, and not only because Intel deserves it. If they manage to make a lot of money off Ryzen they could invest it and make sure their GPUs can seriously challenge Nvidia.
>>69325104Is it blocking the air flow of the gpu fan now?
>>69325193What's really important right now is the server market. If AMD can start taking a lot of market share there their income will explode.Nvidia doesn't actually have much revenue and income compared to Intel. Processors are much more profitable if you can do it right. Also It means less money for intel to throw around but they have so much money they could take losses as big as their current income and still stay in business for a few years like that by selling off assets
>>69325251This is a fresh build. It just looked too crowded.
How the fuck do you install an HDD in an NZXT H500 Im genuinely starting to believe I got a knock off
>>69315574Is Lian Li Dynamic the way to go? Have only heard good things about it and I need a new mid-size case.
>>69325274Looks like they're next to the power supply from the back of the case here https://youtu.be/7HK5Aulw7YI?t=284
>>69325256>server marketAren't their CPUs already better than Intel for servers? And yes, it's true that the server market is probably where they should put their focus to, but it does mean that gaming gets shafted and that's mainly what I care about. I'm really hoping for something good this year, because I really want to upgrade my 780 ti for the cyberpunk 2077 release.
>>69325311Did the h500 get a redesign or something? Mines not like that
>>69325354>Aren't their CPUs already better than Intel for servers?Yeah but intel released a 28 core that slotted into server boards that customers already had so AMD didn't have an easy time with it's first go aroundAlso with the kind of big money render farms and shit that need these massively multi core CPUs there's a lot of validation that goes into the platform before they actually start selling chips, so this time around AMD has the advantage with Rome which already works with the SP3 platform, while Intel's new 48core has to launch on a new platform.
>>69324930set your ram speed properly in bios or it'll run slow
>>69324930It's running in dual channel so actual speed is 1600MHz.If that's not what it's supposed to be then you need to go into bios and load an XMP setting or something
ok here are the spare parts I have, what should I do with them-Athlon X4 740-FX-8350mobos and coolers for both-Radeon HD 7850-1x PSU, Case-1x SSD (60gb?)-1x HDD (2TB)Could buy some literal chinkshit parts for the X4, or could just buy an APU to replace it.Any ideas on what to use these for?
>>69325504sidenote, I have an arcade cabinet that I want to use one of these systems for, don't know if an older FM2 apu can run arcade shit smoothly or if I should just use the 8350 + 7850 for it.
>>69325373Yes, but you can still remove the front in the old one. Push screws.
>>69325601Holy shit based anon
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/192787032049 is this worth it? for 20 dollars you get 750w thermal intake psu and for another 30 you can upgrade to a b350 mother board which comes to 550 aud
>>69325288i heard the o11 air version had problems with the side panel squishing against the gpu power cable, i would check out the gamersnexus review for the dynamic
>>69326023You can also take 5% off that with the PUSH5 couponBut yeah that's pretty decent for AUD
>>69326129Worth upgrading the motherboard from a320 to b350? What about the PSU?
>>69326506Not really.It's a good base computer you can upgrade the pieces of one by one, they'll probably give you a shitty motherboard or power supply you'll need to change later anyway.
>>69322845Ncase owner here. Skip out on those 2 slim 120 fans, I assume you planned to place them under the GPU because they're slim. They'll maybe drop your temps by 1-2c. Either save the $40 or do the Accelero Xtreme3 mod and use 2x Full size 120mm fans.Also do yourself a favor and grab the sf600 instead of the seasonic. You lose out on 50 watts you wont be using, but the SF 600 runs a lot cooler, quieter, and has a lot more support.Otherwise last thing I could recommend is using the C14s instead of the U9s. The temps will be lower with the caveat being you will need to rotate the psu using an sfx to atx bracket. Both will cost about the same since you wont need to buy the 2nd 92mm if you use the C14s. That being said the U9s is the easier plug and play option.
>>69317892Has every feature> OCs to 165hz>gysnc>ips>slimmest bezel
Gainward rtx 2080 600€ in Europe, why is it so cheap?
It was a good night, boys.
>>69326757>ips>slimmest bezelBrainlet here, what are these things and why are they good? What's a bezel
>>69326873Ips is the panel technology. A bezel is the border around the display, think the Iphone X or Samsung Note 9, they have tiny black borders. While something like the Iphone 8 has fat black borders around it.
>>69326890I don't know shit about phones but I think I get the idea. Thanks anon