*cracks* Ah, CRTs. *hits degauss* Unparalleled performance to these days. *sip*
but he's right
>Enjoy your eye cancerEvery parent since 1980
>>69314242> he doesnt use a crt
>>69314299My samefag sense is tingling...
>>69314716*turns the lights on*
>>69314716>dat clouding/bleeding disgusting
>>69314745Nice try, sweetie
why couldn't they just produce flat crts...
>laughs in microLED
>>69314242>TWAAAAAAAAAaaàaannnnnnnnnggg>*click*Zoomers will never understand.
>>69314795Those don't even exist. They would only be worth buying if they flickered frames, had black actually be black, and had at most 5ms of input lag. It would also be cool to have a 4:3 one.
>>69314793>Takes photo with flash>"CRT is shit!!"Umm honey, I shrink your nips.
>>69314795>laughs in vaporwareWhat did she mean by this?
>>69314242>hits degaussThis was always an extremely satisfying thing to do. Probably the only thing I miss about CRT.
have CRTs been documented to actually cause eye cancer?
>>69314821only after Samsung has sold every single qled before wasting away in some warehouse
>>69314716>>69314745Damnit the colors looked so good on CRT. Modern monitors just feel so washed out and soulless.
>>69314834>Shock>Denial: you are here>Anger>Bargaining>Depression>Testing>AcceptanceYou have far to go anon
>>69314865has eye cancer actually been documented?
>>69314850>n-not fair!CRTfag cope
>>69314745what trinitron is that ?
>>69314242As someone who has used CRTs their whole life, I'd say high end IPS monitors are way better overall.
>>69314242>doesn't even adjust moirezoomer detected.
>>69314878Man, I remember getting an 1680x1050 gaming lcd and then plugging my xbox 360 from my crt into the lcd and going: wow, why does this look so fucking shit?>>69314896GDM-FW900
>>69314905you must train your muscles more
Even a small 13" CRT is hefty and you have to be careful about handling them because you don't want to rupture the tube and send shards of glass into your face.
>>69314923When I came back from university the first time, I had the old CRT in my bedroom and I was blown away. It was unbelievable how much better it was, compared to every other screen I used that year.
>>69314923I can't even appreciate how good the colors are because I'm viewing this thread an lcd
>>69314865Yes but only if the display is unfiltered, which was only a thing in early designs. You'd get pelted with electrons pretty good.
>>69314745>>69314923The future sucks. We have to go back...
>>69314948>>69314962Maybe one day oeld will fix the burn in issues and we'll have good blacks again
are crt colors better due to blacks and whitesor do crts portray a fuller color spectrum?
I will imply that the better the screen = the better for your eyes
>>69314716>>69314745Based and redpilled>>69314793Absolute cringe
>>69314996Color wise it's the same as IPS or better, but the big difference is brightness/greys/blacks.Since CRTs can shut off electrons from coming into an area of screen, you get true blacks/greys. LCDs are unable to do that because the backlight cant be shut off, it's why if you run a fullscreen black picture on an lcd you see the backlight bleed cause the screen is never truly off.
>>69315038are oled not good for blacks?
>>69314996It has more to do with phosphor providing richer color.
Apparently they still make shit-tier CRT TVs in India and China.
This kills the CRTfag.http://www.computer-darkroom.com/acd/acd.htm
I find it ironic that now that everybody has thrown away their CRTs, manufacturers can sell $400 LCD monitors with colors worse than what we had 20 years ago and none will be the wiser
>>69315048whips are good for blacks
>>69314878The colours can't look better than what your monitor can show, retard.
>>69315095how so? it clearly shows the crt gamut is wider
Only dumb amerimuts fall for that meme
>>69314878>>69315150That's because a good CRT had better contrast than a modern TN, an IPS and a VA all put together
>>69315098First off not everyone had high end CRTsPeople didn't care to throw away there low to midrange junk, CRT fags don't care about this junk either alsoPracticality > any perceived notion of quality
>>69315225>CRT fags don't care about this junk eitherEven the shittiest CRT there is can still work with a light gun.
Melee on LCD is atrocious.
>>69314885Show me where i can but a uLED monitor then.
>>69315225>First off not everyone had high end CRTsTrue but not so relevant in the end.Cheap modern LCDs are worst than any cheap CRT used to be. The average global quality has gone down.
>>69315225from my experience not even 600$ lcd monitors today can compete with 150$ crt monitors from 15 years ago
While there's little benefit and a lot of disadvantage from using a CRT as a computer display for static images, flat panels fall short for anything with motion.
>>69315312>disadvantage from using a CRT as a computer display for static imagesLike?Burn-in hasn't been an issue since the 90s.
>>69314716>comparison picture of CRT and LCD>but everyone views it on an LCD>so the "true black" you're seeing on a CRT is coming through on your LCD anyway
>>69315257>Cheap modern LCDs are worst than any cheap CRT used to be. In what aspect? Color? it sure as hell wasn't resolution or brightness>>69315311from my experience not even 600$ lcd monitors today can compete with 150$ crt monitors from 15 years agoblow it out of your assNo one is out right that delusional to be using a CRT that sold for $150 new over a $600 panelThere is a reason everyone who uses a CRT uses an expensive AF trinitron because they are the only ones worth using today and those things where not cheap back then, hell my IBM P275 was $900 in 2001
>>69315377Valid point, but it's likely the difference we see in the photo, the black contrast on the LCD and CRT, is pronounced. I mean, I can see the LCD having a bleeding back light and CRT showing a better black, so the photo and my phone's display shows it well.
>>69315532>No one is using a a $600 panelFTFY
Consumer grade CRTs were limited to the sRGB color space, so no, they just can't beat modern tech. Even iPhone 7 sporting an IPS panel has better colors and contrast than your antiquated garbage under normal lighting. It never ceases to amaze me how retarded CRT fags are.
>>69315377You can see it happen when you make your entire screen black. The effect above then becomes clear as day. Small areas of blackness look ok on LCDs, but it cant handle full screen blacks or any large black areas.
>>69315847>Consumer gradeLCDs struggle even with sRGB
>>69315377>>but everyone views it on an LCDsays you
>>69315873Stop living in 2008.
>>69315532even a $20,000 lcd will not be able to show actual black
>>69315532>No one is out right that delusional to be using a CRT that sold for $150 new over a $600 panelbut the panel itself costs a $1,50
>>69315982>muh blacksJust close your eyes, retard.
>>69316080closing eyes will not make you see true black
>>69314990>Maybe one day oeld will fix the burn in issues and we'll have good blacks againSo microled then
I feel like CRTs are good in the same sense as vinyl, it's a combination of nostalgia and the warmth that error-prone tech creates.
>>69316241no. CRTs are good in the sense that modern tech sucks
>>69315377OLED masterrace checking in
Why even OLED instead of microLED.Is it cheaper to produce?
>>69314865Cancer isn't even caused, everyone has dormant cancer cells. For whatever reason people will assert that any and everything causes these cells to become active and multiply.From the sun to wifi radio signals.Smoking is the most obvious one and it's instantly invalidated when you see multiple 90 year olds who have smoked their entire life.Like almost every disease, it's purely genetic or arbitrary mutation. You're either going to die from cancer or not, the only influence is in stopping it, not preventing it.While this may not be correct, nobody can disprove it either. Nobody fucking understands this shit. If they did people wouldn't be dying from it.
>>69315847CRT in general is not limited to sRGB though.
I would love to get a CRT, what are some models to keep an eye out for?
>>69315847>implying anyone here is using consumer grade displays of any type>implying this is a fair comparison in any fashionLiterally comparing phone displays with widescreen monitors and ignoring price brackets.
>>69316337OLED is just the first tech that is a real upgrade from LCD and everyone wants to cling to it.OLED still has real issues that may never be fully solved, microLED is on the other hand is made from more conventional tech that is just smaller so we have better understanding of it
>>69316442Good fucking luck finding one without convergence issues
>>69316508>convergence issuesenlighten me?
Is MicroLED not just an inferior version of FED/SED? Is this just to avoid patents?I still don't know why LVD (laser displays) never took off since it was supposed to be cheap. Same concept, different range. You could use LVD for giant displays and SED for smaller ones.
>>69316544A (color) CRT consists of 3 electron guns that beams red green and blue light to the same spot to make a certain colorIf they don't converge correctly, instead of getting a yellow dot you get red and green dots that intersect like a Venn diagram.
>>69316487>the first tech that is a real upgrade from LCD>what is plasma
>>69314745Wow that's neat. How did you get the switch to change your monitors?
>>69316598>>69316637yeah interesting, was just reading about it, seeing as I woke up and realised I should just be searching for it myself. is this luck of the draw?
>>69316642It's a giant brass lever behind the left display
>>69316544It's when your 3 electron guns are not in alignment and they don't converge correctly to give the colors that was intended you end up with something like this>>69316668CRT convergence was set at the factory to be perfect but over time it can get out of alignmentIn some cases it can be solved with the monitor's OSD but if you can't it's either live with it or service itI've yet to find a CRT with perfect convergence all around
>>69316625>what is plasmaWhere they belongThey fill up landfills for a reason
>>69314989>Try to improve on a monitor with ‘electron gun’ built inside itLCD was a mistake
It turns out I'm now using my old CRT to edit my photos since none of my LCD screens can show the lower and higher RGB levels, also compared CRT with a printed photo and the CRT looks closer to what lab printed.Also my old CRT has the gama at 2.2 while my LCDs have gama all over the place depending on color.Not to talk about how black is much darker on CRT too and color, oh color is much better on the CRT too.Of course I don't own any IPS screen, I think those expensive monitors would easily blast away that old CRT, also LCD is much sharper (obviously), but seriously that CRT is amazing to edit photos if you want a cheap monitor for graphical work on a tight budget an old CRT seems the best way to go.
>>69316573SED is actually inferior to a CRT since you have to map the signals to a matrix like an LCD and therefore causing input lag similar to an LCD.
>>69314923>GDM-FW900holy fuck those things are worth a bit. how much did you get yours for?
>>69314793went to a museum with the family and they had a bunch of CRTs. exactly what the fuck they looked like - gross blacks, even in the corner where there wasn't a ton of light. the cherry picking is fucking real
>>69314793>480i | Game | JUST>JUST
>>69317456Then your museum has garbage on display.My fucking Samsung CRT I had over a decade ago had better blacks
>>69317754What do you mean by better blacks? They don't even commit crime?
>>69317339It also means you have a fixed pixel grid, something that isn't an issue on CRTs.
>>69315171Yeah that LCD is from 2001 tho.
>>69315244You can buy it in the year 2020.
>>69316709Something like this could actually be fixed by a software solution, by sending pre misaligned Color channels to the monitor and the monitors own misalignment would actually fix the image, you could do the same for geometry issues etc. You would need to do it on a driver level though with calibration profiles made using some type of software plus camera solution. In fact using so.ething like this could probably give a CRT better picture quality than it ever had
>>69317964but for that you get a flat panel that does not weigh a ton
>>69316625plasma existed or at least hit the market way before lcd
>>69316709should the grid be completely white or is that red and blue border normal like with LCD
>>69317034>also LCD is much sharper (obviously)how so?
>>69319526More megapixels, they don't make 1080p crts (well they probably do but not widely available and not at a reasonable price), when I talk about CRTs I always mean those old models
>>69319570there have been lots of crts with >HD resolutions
>>69319608I guess, but for the price of those I could probably buy a highend IPS monitor
>>69319631Which will still have worst contrast and blacks than an average CRT
>>69319631CRTs these days should be cheap as bread, should they not
>>69319570>when I talk about CRTs I always mean those old modelsAre there any new?!!!?
>>69319680idk, I haven't compared them, a buddy says budget IPS screens are better than the best CRTs, some people on /g/ and IRC says the oposite idk who to trust since I haven't compared, I only know my CRT beats away all my cheap TFTs and NTs at everything but resolution.>>69319713Yeah, but that's the lowend ones, a 1080p CRT most cost a fortune I assume>>69319759As long as there's a niche audience there's always a niche market for everything so I'm sure there are, but that results in extremely high prices due to economy of scale
i was of the impression that resolutions around 2megapixels was standard for CRTs from about 2000 onwards
imagine what crts would be like if we didnt stop producing them in 2005
>>69319899TNs would be long dead for their garbage colors and contrast.IPS and VA would have actually evolved.240Hz monitors wouldn be considered common tech.
>>69319819Nah, I can feed a 1080 lines signal to my CRT but that's just because CRTs don't have pixels, they don't have a fixed resolution like LCDs do, I can feed a 1080 lines signal to my CRT and the image shows on screen but due physical factors like the shadowmask and idk other factors? limit the actual resolving power of the screen.I'm sure there are people here who understand this better
>>69316099Just go to detroit then.
>>69319929>IPS and VAwould be as dead as TN
>>69319899Considering that at that point they were optimized for mass manufacturing, they'd be pretty cheap and close to peak of how good they are, while flat panels would be expensive backlit garbage. Who knows, based on image quality, flat panels could end up being a niche product just for laptops, but normies want their shit to be flat, regardless of how good it is.I wonder if this would make OLED and similar panels more popular, as they actually stand a change against CRTs when it comes to image quality.
>>69315532At the end of the CRT life cycle you could get top models for cheap cause everyone was jumping ship to get to inferior LCDs
Unironically taking sips rn
>>69320895Why do I feel like you don't get any pussy after seeing your pic, Anon?
>>69320915Because you're confusing real pussy with that boycunt shit. I lichterally smacked my friend's ass with the mousepad while smashin and we had to take a break cause she couldn't stop laughing.
>>69320895>pre-rolled cigarettesYou need to watch Bandersnatch!
>>69314242>Unparalleled performance to these days.He's right tho.