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Previous thread: >>68796081
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What does this mean? Does the source have to be formatted to btrfs to move it to the btrfs backup drive?
In BTRFS mode, snapshots are taken using the in-built features of the BTRFS filesystem. BTRFS snapshots are supported only on BTRFS systems having an Ubuntu-type subvolume layout (with @ and @home subvolumes).
https://github.com/teejee2008/timeshift
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alright so i wanted to try linux arch, all i did was following this shitty reddit wiki tutorial https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/wiki/vm and after rebooting i get greeted by by this

what do?
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Is there some gentoo equivalent to arch's genfstab?
I can probably hack something together with some sed and awk autsim but I highly doubt it would well.
Basically I'm trying to script a gentoo install; making an fstab, and automating kernel configuration are my main roadblocks right now.
Also, how long would it compiling the base system take on a C2D laptop? I'm talking kernel, X, the basic userland and a window manager. I would be using surf as my browser but I don't know if I have to compile webkit or if I can just install a bin of it seperately.

Also before you say gentoo is a meme, I'm looking to switch from Arch + lts kernel because I'm tired of faggotry like this. I want to be able to have a stable kernel that I can strip out all the bullshit from. Switching to openbsd was also an option but all my data is dmcrypted so I would have to spend like 700 bucks worth of new HDDs + backups to move all my data. Maybe in the future though.
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>>68812944
https://git.archlinux.org/arch-install-scripts.git/tree/genfstab.in
install findmnt
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>>68812889
use the actual installation instructions
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Why does my public ip and router local ip show up in my torrent client?
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>>68812958
I didn't even realize it was just a bash script kek.
findmmt seems to be included in the userland in arch and debian, is it included in the stage 3 tarball?
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>>68812889
99% of le lunix install/ricing guides are written by dumb pajeets.
dont use them
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>>68813025
blkid, findmnt and lsblk are from the util-linux package which is included in the base system of most distros
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Where can I download menu icons for gno-menu and arc menu in Ubuntu?
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>>68813025
writing fstab is actually easy
>root
/dev/sdxY / ext4 defaults 1 1

>non-root
/dev/sdxZ /home ext4 defaults 1 2

>swap
/dev/sdxX swap swap defaults 0 0
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>>68813124
I didn't complain about the difficulty, I wanted it automated.
Also using sdx instead of UUIDs is retarded and you should feel bad
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>>68813137
>Also using sdx instead of UUIDs is retarded and you should feel bad

correct.

fun linux fact: I don't remember exactly which ones, but one linux util gets the devices from grub, while another gets them from fstab, and if you manage to fuck them up, mount (I believe) will tell you that you have /dev/sdfucked on /, while in reality /dev/some_other_shit is actually on /

I copied a distro from one partition to another, and forgot to update both, is how I found this, so yeah, it took a stupid mistake to confuse the system, but IMHO you should never have more than one source for that sort of detail. One or the other should override if they are not in agreement.
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>>68813137
it's just an example you fucking autist
are you telling me to write
UUID=abcdefghijkl-mnopqrs-0123456789
, go fuck yourself
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someone keeps posting this on /bant/
/^[.?]?$/

Is this one of those commands that deletes root or something?
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>>68813057
gotcha
now, if I want to really strip down the kernel, should I be using genkernel to make the initramfs or should I write my own?
And I know gentoo-sources doesn't have an LTS branch or anything, what would be the closet thing to an lts kernel on gentoo?
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>>68813249
>/^[.?]?$/
try it you baby
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>>68813249
it matches
.
?
/bant/ is /s4s/-tier, all the posts have no meaning, they just keep repeating the same shit over and over
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>>68813189
>but one linux util gets the devices from grub
No. Nothing in grub is used in the system, grub is usedEXCLUSIVELY for booting.
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>>68813324

I'd love to see an [s4s] meetup, but I'm pretty sure no one who posts there ever leaves their basement, and like Adam Lanza, they email their mom when they want more tendies left at the door.

>>68813375

yeah, all the gurus said I was wrong back then too, BUT NOBODY TESTED IT BECAUSE THEY KNEW I WAS WRONG. and maybe they've fixed it by now, as that was a few years ago.
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>>68813256
you don't actually need an initramfs as long as you don't compile the filesystem for root as a module and you specify the root device on the kernel command line like "root=/dev/sda1" or "root=PARTUUID=ABCD-1234-ETC"
iirc it can't find the device by its UUID= without an initramfs but PARTUUID= or /dev/* works
you also might not need grub: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/EFI_stub_kernel
>And I know gentoo-sources doesn't have an LTS branch or anything
gentoo does have most of the lts versions listed in https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html
you can mask versions newer than the one you want:
echo '>sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.4' >> /etc/portage/package.mask

i am currently using void btw so i can't verify that this is correct
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>>68813233
lmao looks like I made you do it anyway
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>>68813450
I use root in an encrypted lvm so it looks like I do actually.
so I can use genkernel to make a 4.14 image? the wiki is a little unclear about what kernel genkernel will use. if not I can just write my own initramfs.
Also is there a way to save a menuconfig and load it later? Like say I want the kernel config to be exactly the same from one machine to the next, do I need to remember all my options or can it load them some a file or some kind?
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>>68813520
>the wiki is a little unclear about what kernel genkernel will use
probably the version pointed to by the /usr/src/linux symlink which can be changed using eselect if you have multiple versions installed
>Also is there a way to save a menuconfig and load it later?
the config is saved as .config in the kernel sources directory (/usr/src/linux for the selected kernel)
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>>68813656
You're right, thanks a ton anon.
And I'm assuming as long as I'm using the same kernel branch and the CPUs have the same extensions that .config file is portable from machine to machine right?
Also last question, I maintain my own dwm.c st.c and the config headers. On arch I just wget the tarball from suckless.org and compile it (since they don't need updating or any kind of management).
Should I stick with the same in gentoo or is it better to manage them with portage? I use the releases not git
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How much space do i need for loonix (for ex. Ubuntu)? I want to make separate partition for /home
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>>68813853
40 gigs should be plenty even with multiple huge package families like latex installed
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>>68813391
You didnt mention any tool.
Grub only handles booting, nothing in the system will references it when looking for devices.
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How do I get desktop icons in i3?
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>>68813979
why
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>>68812889
Make sure you set your locale and language correctly; font rendering fucks up horribly otherwise.
Alternatively look up the font used my LXDM(?) and make sure it's installed.
If your DM/DE is horribly broken hit Ctrl+Alt+FX to to ttyX.
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There is no system but GNU and Linux is one of its kernels.
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Best tool to tag music from cli?
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>>68814215
>Linux is one of its kernels
How are the other kernels going?
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>>68812721
Hello 4channel,

I'm wanting to switch from Arch to Gentoo.
Have any anons made the same switch? How'd you find it? Anything I should look out for?

Kind regards,
Greg.
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>>68814215
Based plus gnupilled.
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Anything I should know about fedora 29 before installing it?
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>>68814254
Read: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/make.conf
Level up to:
ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE"

Wished Arch would have this glory.
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>>68814308
fucking freetards why would you restrict yourself lmao
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>>68814340
s/fucking/based/
s/restrict/protect/
You're welcome.
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>>68812789
To take advantage of btrfs' snapshots with timeshift, you have to have a btrfs system with subvolumes @ and @home (like how Ubuntu sets it up)
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>>68813124
>/dev/sdx
dear lord no don't do this
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how to remove all the gnu shit from my linux OS?
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>>68814475
sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root $GNU/
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What is the best way to pip install packages and have the new program accessible from PATH so I can run it anywhere? I heard you're not supposed to sudo pip install ever, but doing a user pip install puts the package in a shitty place.
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I'm sorry to post here about this, but I don't want to make a new thread for such a small thing

Did anyone here save the pictures of the gentoo+thinkpad anon and his gf? You know the ones, where everyone was speculating if she was trans or not.
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>>68814580
$ export PATH=~/.local/bin:$PATH
$ pip install --user package_name
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Which Linux distribution is the best for high quality sound, recording, and maybe even editing? It's a bonus if I can install a tiling WM without breaking it
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>>68814580
Packages installed via pip are available immediately. Using pip is fine, just check your package manager first; no results = safe pip.
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>>68814661
install gentoo
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>>68814678
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>>68814661
I don't have any experience with any of that shit but really any distro will be able to run the linux audio programs available.
The distro choice depends on how you want the OS to be set up when you boot it up for the first time, and what you want from a package manager.
Ubuntu is easy to set up and the most used so you will find the most help for it, and you can install i3 straight from the repositories without any problems.
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>>68814591
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>>68814879
Based.
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>>68814223
ncmpcpp is my preference. But it's not just a tagger, it's a music library and controller for mpd.
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>>68814960
What do you do to rate music?
I wanted to switch to ncmpcpp but I was looking at it and couldn't find a way to rate music AND see all of the ratings you have (instead of only the rating of the currently playing song)
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>>68814661
>>68814748
Distro might make a difference if the kernel matters for audio quality, which I'm pretty sure it does.
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>>68815013
Stop hording bad music.
No rating needed.
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>>68815026
I believe a real-time kernel is important
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>>68815040
I just want to keep track of the "GOOD" tracks from the "good" tracks.
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>>68814661
Vanilla GNU distros work just fine for audio stuff. For hardcore audio production setups install a low-latency version of Linux.
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>>68815013
>>68815055
I just use playlists. Just ranking seems too linear.

Although now that I look it up I found this which seems pretty useful
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=116113
Looks like a simple bash script that maintains 1-5 playlists and automatically grabs the current playing song to let you rank it, removing it from any existing 1-5 playlist and adding it to the one you ranked it as. Having it in a playlist obviously means it's easy to see what's ranked as what.

I might adapt this script to my own needs.
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>>68812721
what kind of pizza is this?

came to complain, that I have faulty ryzen 1700 which crashes linux and can't send it to replace because I'll be without computer then.
am using windows 10 and I hate it
thanks for reading.
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>>68815127
However, one caveat with this that I just remembered is that ncmpcpp has no way of updating playlists with songs that have been moved or renamed. So if you move or rename stuff a lot then this may not be a good solution.
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Even with deadbeef there is a simple plugin that allows you to write a rating meta-data and display it in the playlist.
Sounds like a functionality that a lot of people would want and it doesn't look good for such a "big name" player not to have it
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>>68815055
>>68815181
Although it would be easy to make a script just like that which would instead use some other CLI tag editor to add the ranking to the meta data instead of screwing with playlists.
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How do I fix this disgusting text in Debian?
Certain letters look bolder than others and look quite jaggedy. I can't find an easy way to fix the problem and it's disgusting.
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>>68815296
Does Windows have the same problem?
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>>68815477
>using windows
which botnet swamp you come from?
anyway, please go back, thanks
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>>68814396
Never used btrfs, the fuck does that even mean?
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>>68815550
Putting words in people's mouth just makes you look like a moron
>>68815296
Post a screenshot?
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>>68815663
the filesystem thingy can do sorta backups and timeshift can use this ability to do backup stuff for you
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>>68815688
No shit, why is it limited to ubuntu's "way" and how do you emulate it?
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>>68815700
btrfs has subvolumes (which are smaller parts of the whole fs) and you can turn off some features for some etc. Like having @/home @/var etc. Timeshift is by default configured to leverage btrfs' snapshot feature to use the typical way how Ubuntu sets up btrfs subvolumes. Different distros have different defaults on how they setup subvolumes.
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When I type in password when sudo asks for it why does it take (relatively) so long for it to verify the password and continue program, even longer if I type in nothing and just press enter? It's less than a second but still I expected it to be near instant, like after answering Y/n to something.
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>>68815828
Built in flow control
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>>68815683
I've tried the Gnome Tweak Tool and changed the hinting but it didn't seem to make any fucking difference.
Any suggestions?
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>>68815989
No idea. Are you sure those words aren't actually just set to bold? Because it doesn't look like it's certain letters as you said, it looks like it's certain words.
Other than that I'd just say to setup your fontconfig properly. Most distros these days already have decent defaults but some are still shit, and I wouldn't be surprised if Debian still uses shit defaults considering how slow they are to adopt new stuff: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/font_configuration#Anti-aliasing
Enable anti-aliasing, hinting, and set an lcdfilter.
Disable auto-hinter (if I had to guess I'd say you have auto-hinter enabled)
Pick other options at your preference.
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>>68815828
The delay is intentional to prevent attackers from brute forcing your password.
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Okay, I've set up RSA authentication on my server and I can access it from my computer just fine. I'll be traveling to my folks place tomorrow though, do I just put my id.rsa on a pendrive and put it in ~/.ssh on their computer?
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Really noobie question here:

Whats the easiest way to put /snap/bin into my variables PATH?

Fucked up somehow and i dont know what to do to access some apps.
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i3 is for faggots and losers
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>>68816591
You don't have to put it anywhere, -i takes a path.
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>>68816834
okay I gotcha it will be more secure if I just keep it on a pendrive and just point ssh at it. Thanks senpai
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>>68816673
Only fags use snaps.
You're a fag for using snap.
$ export PATH="${PATH}:/snap/bin/"
Reminder: snaps are for fags only.
Also: Ubuntu is botnet, install Debian.
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Audio sounds absolutely shit out of nowhere.
Sounds distant and muddy and i have to have it 50% louder to get the same loudness as i had before
Where do i start?
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I want to install texlive-most but i don't have enough space in my root partition, how can I install all of that directly in my home partition??
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>>68817508
Pulseaudio yes or no, anything changed in alsamixer?
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How do I auto remove duplicate files? fslint seems to require you to manually delete every file
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>>68817607
apparently my post is spam and im not spending 30 minutes fucking around with it
check pic
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>>68817636
HAHA disregard that, I suck cocks
I just used fdupes
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which controller would work better with Linux, Dualshock 4 or Xbone. Also would the Asus BT400 adapter work for them?
Thanks bros
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>>68817809
I can confirm that the Xbox One controller works perfectly fine on Linux. That's with the USB cable, not the wireless adapter, though.
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>>68816709
How does it feel to have a less functional desktop than faggots and losers?
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>>68817963
>install i3
>no longer need to place my windows
>but sometimes i want to place my windows
>controlling windows manually is actually slower in i3
>my terminals have resized themselves
>text is cut off, wrapped oddly, or is printed more than once
>oh god now i need to manually juggle windows between desktops
>and there's no good way to "stick" a window to all desktops like a floating manager
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>>68818372
Your blog is not relevant to i3 in general.
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Got a fun one for you guys. Rather than try to get help with the problem that I have, I'm trying to figure out what I need to google.

Ubuntu 18.04 with GNOME. When I've got a VM open (Oracle Virtual Box) and mouse integration is turned off, the mouse inside the guest OS will sometimes be "stunned" halfway across the guest OS screen and cause the host OS's GNOME favourites bar thing to pop up. What's the right words for "stunned" and "favourites bar" so that I can stick this shit in to a search engine and find a fix?
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>>68812721
Is it worth to use Alpine Linux as a firewall?
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https://www.linux.org/
Who did this?
>>
https://www.linux.org/
>Linux
>Secure
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>>68820097
>community
try hacking kernel.org and I'll admit your greatness
>>
give another Ahole on
https://www.gnu.org/
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is amdgpu or amdgpu-pro ever going to get a gui like catalyst?
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>>68820201
You could make one instead of endlessly moaning about it.
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>>68820238
pretty sure this the first time ive asked this
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If I want quick backups what's the best option? Docker?
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Gentlemen, how do we uncuck Linux?
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>>68820403
timeshift
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>>68820478
kill trannies
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>>68820664
this tb h
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I recently got a new 9 cell for my x230, how do I fix the xfce power manager? Pic related is the issue
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which distro will give my memepad battery life that isn't complete shit
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There is literally nothing wrong with proprietary software.
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>>68821229
trannies will deny this
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Could I copy the repos from mx linux on to my ubuntu install and replace it with dist-upgrade? How to remove unity effectly as well?
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lxqt >>> all
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Does anyone know how to use runit? I've installed Artix but NetworkManager won't work.
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>>68814229
https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/

ok
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>>68823034
did you try reading the runit page on your ricer distro's wiki
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>>68814229
I know Hurd is doing pretty well. Not sure about the other ones
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i have a squid caching proxy set up but for some reason whenver i use the squid proxy it completely bypasses my /etc/hosts file. how can i make squid use my hosts file before connecting to anything. i set the hosts_file option in the config to no avail
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>>68817809
wired xbox controller werks
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>>68817809
You need a very recent kernel for xbone bt support. 4.17 or 18, i forget which.
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>>68823715
Linux*
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>>68817809
DS4 works fine on BT and wired since forever, though AFAIK there's no way to switch between the two modes seamlessly.
>Asus BT400
Just buy a chinkshit CSR8510 dongle. No reason to pay more than $10.
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>>68812889
did you install a font?
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>>68818754
stunned=frozen? I've never heard that word used in a serious context outside of call of duty.

Favorites bar appears in overview. I'd use the term overview.
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>>68821173
Anything arch based
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What resources do you guys use to find lesser known packages that offer useful tools, applications, etc.?

All of the major applications you can easily find are usually maintained by some popular DE and require a ton of dependencies.
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>>68824771
Arch wiki
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Debian or Arch?

Hardware is an AMD Ryzen 3 2200G APU and Realtek ethernet controller if that matters.

I want a basic install where I can add what I want. Will be using JWM.
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>>68824831
Void
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>>68824831
JWM 2.3.6 in Debian stable has bugs, man. Build a newer github release.
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So I dislike having to backport should I go Debian testing?
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I switched from Ubuntu to Arch a few months ago.
Should I install GPU drivers if I don't play videogames?
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>>68824896
Should I just stick with Arch base since I’ve alwahs used Manjaro? I just can’t stand the communist maintainers anymore refusing to answer questions unless you use the same exact programs they chose to have pre installed.
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hey /g/, i'm using XUBUNTU and Linux Lite, and i love XFCE, but whenever i go fullscreen on some videos (Using Firefox), Firefox just doesnt go back to maximized state. Firefox keeps 16:9 aspect ratio, but just doesn't go back to maximized 16:9, instead it has some space between edges of the screen and the window.

help
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>>68824357
Seems right, thanks.
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>>68824357
>>68825766
Damn, no luck.
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>>68824968
>intel
:^)
>old radeon
no
>not recent amdgpu based radeon
no
>recent amdgpu based radeon
if you have problems
>old novidya
no
>not recent and recent novidya
yes
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>>68821764
You could, but you fucking shouldn't.
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_make_a_FrankenDebian
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Is it possible to run any linux distro on this pc? Core2Duo E6550, 2GB RAM, ATI/AMD Radeon HD 4650. I remember installing Lubuntu a while ago but I couldn't use it because I couldn't set the resolution to anything except 1024x768. My monitor's resolution is 1366x768.
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>>68826201
pretty much anything should work fine, yea
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So is Photoshop still shit on Wine? It is the only reason I occasionally boot up Windows still
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I tried manjaro and i really like it, works out of the box, pretty light on resources with xfce and many useful packages in aur.

Is there similar lightweight-but-comfy distro that JustWorks but with stable releases, not rolling? Ubuntu was a little bit too bloated for my taste
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>>68826237
Stop using proprietary software.
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>>68814308
>Level up
Thanks, needed exactly this. I thought it was the default value. Just found out about it a few days ago when I realized I had two (exluding linux-firmware) non-free packages installed.
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>>68814340
why would you restrict yourself by using non-free software ?
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>>68826245
pic related
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>>68826205
What about the resolution problem? Is it because my hardware is so old? I may try installing something else other than Lubuntu but I need to find a solution for running 1366x768.
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>>68817809
>>68824199
DS4 requires a somewhat recent kernel to work i think its 4.10 or 4.12
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>>68826339
afaik the 4650 should be supported by the r600 driver, so make sure that's installed
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>>68821764
>>68825853
Ubuntu is literally a broken Debian, though installing some random stuff will break it even more
> How to remove unity
Install Debian ?
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>>68825839
Thanks.
I have a R9 270x.
I can watch videos and shit just fine, but I was wondering if installing amdgpu would've given me advantages like much more efficient GPU usage or something
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Yo, what is the best PDF viewer ? Evince depends on a shitton of Gnome packages and displays shittily on XFCE, mupdf is shit I can't even see two pages at once, okular takes almost a few seconds to open (wtf is it that slow ?) , xpdf is broken AF…
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>>68827030
tried Atril?
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>>68825275
bump
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>busy as hell
>fed up with Wangblows
>want to migrate over to Debian
>too busy to do it
>get drunk as fuck
>don't give a shit about work or other responsibilities while drunk
>start thinking about installing debian on main work pc

How do I figure out what the fastest hard drive is in my computer? I know there's a hard drive speed comparing program for windows, just can't remember it atm.

Also, will I be able to re-partition my drives on windows without formatting all my shit? Got a bunch of projects on here, and I don't want to lose em.
But I want to move away from microshaft.
pls help. thank you.
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>>68827130
>will I be able to re-partition my drives on windows without formatting all my shit?
don't be offended, but if you have to ask this, you should not be attempting to set up dual boot on a disk with critical data on it
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>>68827182
yer probably right. should do a backup first.
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>>68827062
thanks i will try that
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>>68827062
>>68827252

Thanks exactly what I needed !
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>>68827276
Wanna know the funny part? it's MATE's fork of Gnome 2's default PDF viewer.
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Does anybody know about a good tool for displaying performance stats on a linux machine?
Kinda like Speccy for windows, or something i can put on the desktop.
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>>68826342
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sony_DualShock#Hardware
I had to go look b/c that didn't sound right. The new ones require 4.10.
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>>68827641
conky
actually you don't need any third party program, linux has /proc and /sys
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>get a bleeding edge system
>make a backup every time I try to update

What could possibly go wrong? Is this a good idea?
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> Oracle® - Oracle Linux® is compiled from Red Hat Enterprise Linux source code, replacing Red Hat branding with Oracle's, optimized to run Oracle software.
but why
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>>68827957
Support contracts.
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Thinkpad user here. I want to install Linux. Is it okay to pick Debian as my starter distro? I prefer to avoid distro-jumping and just want a stable and supported os.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=jw8K460vx1c
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>>68828172
Yes.
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Linux noob here. Let's assume I install Amarok. It says it needs to install a shitload of other shit as you can see. If I ever remove Amarok, how do I get rid of all this leftover junk?
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>>68828259
apt-get autoremove
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>>68827030
Zathura is usually the one that gets recommended here
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>>68827675
Yeah mine was 2nd gen and required 4.10
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix
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>>68812889
>not following the official installation guide

Fuck off, faggot, you deserve this.
>>
Reminder that if you dualboot, you're still a winfag.
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>>68814308
But that still isn't FSF-approved.

>having time for compiling everything


Just use Parabola GNU/Linux and don't be a brainlet.


>but muh optimizations
It doesn't make much difference (if at all) on most modern-ish systems.
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>>68812721
>>68812721
I am new to linux (I've only been using it since 1998) and wondered if anyone can tell me whether there is a command that will allow me to see what options the kernel was compiled with?
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In Windows, I can google for an image on google and post it to 4chan by copying the image's location and then pasting it in the browse interface.

How do I do this on Linux? Do I always have to save an image to post it, no way to paste the link and automatically save it to some temp folder and upload without having to manually save it?
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>>68828373
But muh photoshop and muh vidya games
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>>68828403
The kernel of linux?
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>>68828414
This isnt a linux issue but an issue with the browser that runs under linux. Obviously you need to start a thread regarding the difference between the version of your browser that runs under windows and the version that runs under linux, since they wont have the same capabilities even though they are the same version number
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>>68828414
Stop using Google, retard.
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Hyperbola now FSF endorsed: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
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I had a windows install in my SSD raid 0. I got a new SSD and installed fedora there, but it didn't recognice my windows drive, now when I boot it goes straight to fedora, and to boot windows I have to press F12 and bring out Bios Boot menu to boot on my windows. how do I fix this and switch to dual boot?
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Holy fuck steam has a custom WINE integration built in if you opt in for beta and it JUST WORKS.
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>>68828403
$ cat /src/linux-*/.config
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>>68828461
wow that's a list of all the faggot distro's
Fags get in here and download faggoty fuckin distros to your hearts content
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>>68828467
>>>/g/sqt
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>>68828476
$ cat /usr/src/linux-*/.config

or for currently running kernel
$ gzip -dc /proc/config.gz
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Suck my dick
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>>68828484
where did freetard touch you anon, you can tell us
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>>68828461
I'm wondering if they'd endorse Source Mage. It's a libre distro, too.
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>>68828461
What's up with Hyperbola? Did the devs of Parabola have a falling out or is it like the Manjaro version of Parabola? What's going on?
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>>68828605
>Manjaro version of Parabola
Seems to be right.
https://www.hyperbola.info
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>>68828623
>Derived from Arch plus stability and security from Debian
Debian and Arch do not mix well what the fuck. I don't see much detail on the front page there. Are they mixing Debian packages in or is this a clever way of saying that the packages are old and confirmed to be very stable?

>>68828461
Answer shill
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>>68828441
I use firefox on both actually. It's a Windows feature, not dependant on the browser. Is there any trick to do this in Linux?
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>>68828704
So you can keep posting shitty pepe thumbnails you googled so 4chan doesn't regonize you as redditor?
>>
>>
Been on Win7 since 2009. Any reason I should finally make the switch to Linux?
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>>68828745
I hope your host is not Windows.
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>>68828728
Exactly, how did you knew?
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>>68828771
No, Linux sucks.
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What distro is this?
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>>68828773
I run whatever the store sold me.
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>>68828771
Windows 10 is a bloated piece of shit datamining mess. Unless you have some weird hardware, Linux just werks. I recommend you use Linux Mint, very easy to switch for Windows veterans.
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>>68812721
guys is there any open source or just free game for linux to kill time?
something more recent than wesnoth, thanks
whatever genre, better if it is turn based and light
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>>68828948
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Games
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It all makes sense.
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>>68828605
maybe it was too much hyperbole
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>>68828799
The DE is GNOME 3 with the dash to dock extension and the Flatix remix icon theme as well as another workspace switcher extension that I'm not familiar with. This is not a default distro setup. Reverse image search points to a russian Manjaro GNOME user.
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Ubuntu or Arch for programming?
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>>68829176
Depends are you programming software for 2 years ago or for the current year?
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@68828745
@68828792
@68828871
fuck off
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>>68829222
nah, for next year
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@68829305
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@ 68829305
@ 68829319
Oldfag detected
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>>68829305
>>68829319
>>68829333
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAj26rVWK14
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Not even a gamer and still think this is shitty
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>>68829565
get a keyboard with arrows on it
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>>68829565
Retard
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>>68829594
based
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>>68829565
h is in left so it moves to left
l i in right so it moves to right
j looks like down arrow
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>>68829565

You know that it's one option, right anon? By default in a modern version vim uses either hjkl or arrows (definitely with neovim, almost sure that vim since version 6.0 has it but not 100% sure)

This helped me for the first few months of using, until it all clicked in my mind, now I'm addicted to hjkl.

It's a similar realisation to what I had when I "understood" pointers, or Lisp, or when I was a tiny kid that finally understood how to ride a bike, or how numbers work.
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>>68829680
thanks nerd
will use arrow keys because theres no need to make things pretentious
.
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>>68829565
In vi everything makes sense
>(i)nsert
>(d)elete
>(r)eplace
>etc
hjkl, being an exception, makes sense, too, when you have a look in the computer vi was written on.
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>>68829755
hjkl is so you don't have to move your hand away from the typing position of the keyboard, efficient
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>>68829755
You poor, poor, poor, faggot.
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>>68829768
>using nonsensical keybinds because some ancient computer didn't have arrow keys
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>>68828474
yes
https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561
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>>68830039

>using keybinds


HAHAH, on Microsoft Windows we use the mouse, much easier to control.
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>>68828461
>The Init Freedom Campaign is about restoring a sane approach to PID1, one that respects diversity and freedom of choice. We refuse init systems that breaks portability, ignores backwards compatibility, and replaces existing services, forcing into adoption (eg. systemd)
>https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=:en:start#what_is_the_init_freedom_campaign
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>>68830496
Everyone should just use Shepherd.
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gentoomen pls help:
lets say I want to use genkernel to make an initramfs (for lvm) but I also want to use a stable release and configure it
>emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-sources sys-fs/cryptsetup
>eselect kernel list
>eselect kernel set (to 4.14.whateverprob)
>genkernel --menuconfig --save-config --splash --luks --lvm --disklabel --makeopts=-j5 all
And then to update it for security patches:
>emerge -u gentoo-sources
>eselect kernel list
>eselect kernel set [x]
then just run the same genkernel command?
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>>68812721
Let's say I have a 2 TB drive for daily use and two backup drives 1 TB each. Is it possible to tell rsync to back up half the data from the 2 GB drive to each backup drive?
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Any suggestions on a linux distro for forensics and malware analysis? I’d prefer to be able to install it to a USB so I can turn any computer into a lab, after disconnecting the hard drive of course.
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How do I save X resolution? Works with xrandr, making a conf file with X - configure works but x fails to start, something about can't find displays. Manjaro, gnome, amd free.
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>>68831516
>Manjaro
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>>68829755
get memed on lol
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>>68830350
>mouse

what is it, medieval times? you poor fuckers don't even have a touchscreen for everything
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>>68830900
No
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>>68831621
>touch screen
Yes a highly inaccurate touch device
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>>68831705
fug
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How do I test whether or not my nvidia graphics card is really working? I tried glxgears with OpenGL and the output was

GL_RENDERER = GeForce GTX 880M/PCIe/SSE2
GL_VERSION = 4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.130
GL_VENDOR = NVIDIA Corporation
with an average of 60 FPS

However when I try to open steam games the performance is usually around 20. Anyone got any ideas?
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>>68831760
also the output for lspci was

"01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104M [GeForce GTX 880M] (rev ff) (prog-if ff)
!!! Unknown header type 7f
Kernel modules: nvidia
"
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>>68831572
Yes, very funny anon. You can go back to your corner now.
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>>68831760
I don't understand the question. If you've plugged our monitor to your graphics card and you're getting output, then it is working. Obviously, performance in video games depends on many factors such as the CPU clock speed. A video game can be more taxing on your system than the benchmark that you've run.
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>>68831875
Let me rephrase the equestion then. The performance I experienced on windows was much. much greater than what I'm experiencing here, hence I don't believe my GPU is even operating. I also don't believe my GPU is registering my screen (which is 1920x1080)
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>>68831928
I know you probably know this, but I'm going to say it just in case: make sure that the NVidia drivers are selected in the driver manager (sudo kcmshell5 kcm_driver_manager)
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>>68832003
or without sudo
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>>68832003
>>68832014
disregard that I suck cocks, I thought you were on KDE
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>>68832029
nah xfce
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>>68831928
What distro?
Have you added the nvidia modules to your init for kms?
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>that supposedly rare bug the linux kernel devs have been ignoring for centuries
>this is the fourth or fifth time this year
why can't transparent hugepages just, like, fuck off?
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gnu unifont truetype appears double-spaced in uxterm
any idea how to fix this
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>>68832336
nvm found it
for some reason UNCHECKING "packed fonts" option in uxterms settings menu made them correctly narrow
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Hey /g/uys, I'm real happy with my i3 arch setup (gave my old laptop a whole new life, only gotta preload my browser now) but my audio stops working after reboots and starts working again if I plug something into the 3.5mm jack for a moment. Doesn't matter whether I'm trying to listen via laptop speakers or headphones. Any ideas/suggestions?
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>>68832336
get fixed-width font like terminus
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>>68832396
your audio system?
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>>68832414
Fuck, forgot to mention the most important detail.

It's pulseaudio
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>>68832432
>poetteringware
stop caring right there
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>>68832442
What should I use instead then?
>>
What distro attracts wide hipped asian girls
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>>68832466
Scientific Linux
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>>68832466
>wide hipped asian girls
damn son
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>>68832466
Moneybuntu
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>>68832466
GuixSD
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I was finally able to get my nVidia gt730 to work properly on gentoo, after 3 years
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>>68832793
how?
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>>68832814
"I DM'd you the fix"
Who knows, its a real mystery. But after modifying /etc/default/grub was when suspend started working properly

using =gentoo-sources-4.14.83 and =nvidia-drivers-390.87

added snippet of /etc/default/grub
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset"
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=blind

of course 'blind' is literally booting blind
>>
The linux kernel uses 100% of all donations to pay for diversity. Linux is a dead kernel. BSD won.
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>>68833072
Literally kill your dumb fucking self, you cannot even read.
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>>68832459
pure alsa
hell pulseaudio itself requires alsa to work, which is retarded
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>>68833072
Year of the HURD
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>>68833091
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>>68832911
Basically you were a retard who tried running the proprietary driver with the nouveau enabled. Congratulations.
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>>68833116
>hell pulseaudio itself requires alsa to work, which is retarded
you're retarded, two reasons:
1. The point of pulse is being a userspace extension of a low level audio subsystem, so the kernel level system can focus on driving the hardware and not worry about little things
2. pulseaudio works with OSS too
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>>68833143
>Basically you were a retard who tried running the proprietary driver with the nouveau enabled.
I compiled my kernel without nouveau module enabled, so HAH! take that!
>>
You guys here sound like you know how to deal with audio shit. I've got a good one. Back in Ubuntu 16.04, I found a way to disable my laptop's internal speakers at such a deep level that they don't even show up in Pulse Audio. Now that I've upgraded to Ubuntu 18.04, I can't find any way to un-disable them. Any ideas?
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>>68833425
stop using pulseaudio
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>>68833452
there's no good way to control audio streams on a per-application basis without pulse
>>
In bash, if you run a function in the background with & and that function calls another function, bash will ignore the & and block.
Testcase:
$ f() { echo test; }
$ t() { f; sleep 10; echo end; }
$ for i in {1..10}; do t & done

What shell allows running functions in the background fully? I know fish is even worst, not allowing any functions to run in the background.
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>>68833815
works fine for me, it still outputs to the terminal though. this might do what you're looking for
for i in {1..10}; do t > /dev/null 2>&1 & disown; done
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>>68830350
this but unironically
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>>68830350
>we use the mouse

why do people like acme editor?
>>
im fairly new to linux, is installing arch jumping in the deep end or will i be fine?
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>>68834960
If you know how to read more then a paragraph, youll be fine
>>
It's been a while since I've used my Arch setup and I forgot about the sound configuration.

speaker-test -D default:PCH -c 2

This works, but no other sound works.

I don't exactly care about getting the default device working unless it's extremely simple, but I've spent a long time trying to do that.

I just want it to work right now. How do I get this device to work right now?
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is Debian a bad distro?
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>>68835078
yes install devuan
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>>68835106
>yes
why
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>>68835119
systemd my guy
install devuan
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>>68835042
Open alsamixer and makre sure it isnt muted and at a hearable volume.
Check dmesg when you try to play something
Install pulse and pulseaudio --start
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>>68835078
Debian is ok, but the average user should consider Ubuntu, the desktop edition of Debian.
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>>68835129
devuan is plagued with gnu, install alpine
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>>68835151
alpine has a nice website, maybe one day
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>>68826676
My R9 270 works great with amdgpu. didnt really try it with radeon though so no idea if its any better. my understanding is its basically the same thing
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>>68827212
trying to resize partitions is fucking stupid. and hard drive speed doesnt fucking matter
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>>68827641
htop
screenfetch
conky
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>>68828172
yep, just be sure to install over ethernet
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>>68828259
also, try running
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends amarok
and it will install way less shit
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>>68828373
what if i dual-boot 2 linux distros you fucking faggot?
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what does non-free mean?
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>>68828390
fsf can suck a mutilated dick vagina
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>>68835351
proprietary stuff like wifi drivers
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>>68828512
freetard here
fsf is fucking retarded
they say its ok to have a non-free closed-source firmware if its on a rom chip, but if the same exact firmware is loaded from the hard-drive then its not ok
this is so obviously fucking wrong its retarded
fsf is literally saying its ok to have a closed-source non-free firmware
fuck them
they think they can pick and choose what should be free like theyre some soft of gods
dumb fucks
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>>68829305

kys
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>>68831760
which driver are you using? sounds like youre using nouveau, which will obviously get bad frame rates
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>>68835078
what, no, its possibly the best distro
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>>68835165
i dunno...
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>>68835149
Ubuntu is Debian for africans aka retards.
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>>68835525
o shit, i didnt get that
oof
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>>68835391
atheros has wifi drivers that arent proprietary
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how hard would it be to make my own 4g mobile proxies?
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>>68835137
Was trying to be minimal but I did this and it worked thanks! I'll worry about minimizing later lol
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So I have a pretty weird problem. I’ll be using my HP Elitebook 2540p with debian installed and all of a sudden the screen flickers and pixel by pixel it will go black, with only a couple of green-ish pixels left.
This has happened before some time ago, same laptop same OS. At least I am pretty sure it was debian. I have used arch for quite some time but now I am back at debian.
It could be a hardware problem, but I doubt it since it never happened with arch.

Does anynody know what the frack is going on?
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>>68836040
dumb ricer
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>>68836196
I could be mistaken that it was the same laptop, but I am pretty sure it was the same OS.
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>>68836200
It's absolutely cringeworthy

>uh look at me guys I don't use an audio server I'm so miniture mull!
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>>68836870
>>68836870
>>68836870
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>>68835355
Stop being a literal faggot



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