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I have a silly question

What's the point with using difficult distros, such as Arch and Gentoo, when you can use simple ones like Ubuntu?

Does it help with learning code or programming? Just curious
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Hinata is ichiban kawaii.
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>>69885192
>>69885206
Wait really? That's just stupid then. Why learn this shit when it doesn't help with shit
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>>69885330
if you want to be a linux sysadmin then using a do-it-yourself distro could be helpful for learning. But for software engineering it's not that relevant
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If you are paranoid or if you need your shitty ass 10 year old PC to run comparable to a new one, those difficult distros do the job. Depends on your use and who you are if these distros would even benefit you
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>>69885192
fpbp
also cute homu >>69885182

>Requesting purchase advice
https://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

>/g/ headphone wiki
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

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1990s
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>>69885310
I think he means he won't go back to silicone eartips
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>>69885752
>stacks
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Stax

Just got this for 800$, did i get a steal?
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>>69884171
>64GB of ram
this really activates my OS
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>>69884171
>64 gigabytes
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>>69885655
he can run Quebes easily
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>>69885655
easy if you are actually using the computer for something. could be used for caching to make things really fast
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>>69884171
>64GB of RAM

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What music players do you use /g/?
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>>69884581
nah you can fuck up DSD if you don't convert properly
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ipod classic or benjie t6?
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>>69885277
benjie is shit
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>>69870896
m8 with a kernel tweak + Neutron
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>>69885277
benjie is qt

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What is /g/'s opinion on the Oberon System?

I heard once it's like the last frontier for hackers...
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>>69883822(You)
>>69883953(You)
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Does Oberon have a lead developer we can literally meme to death now we all done tinkering with temple ?
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>>69882816
I haven't used the OS, but Oberon is a well-designed, if spartan, programming language. Wirthian languages are generally much better than C-derived ones. They are designed from the ground up to be simple, but also practical. Writing an Oberon-0 compiler is a good introduction to compilers. However, Oberon is not very practical to write Un*x applications in today. You're better off with language inspired by Wirth's languages, such a Free Pascal and Ada 2012.

I think Wirth is the kind of figure /g/ would appreciate if it knew more about him. This interview gives you an idea of his mindset.
http://www.eptacom.net/pubblicazioni/pub_eng/wirth.html
>The wealth of features of many languages is indeed a problem rather than a solution. A multitude of features is another consequence of the programmers' belief that the value of a language is proportional to the quantity of its features and facilities, bells and whistles. However, we know that it is better if each basic concept is represented by a single, designated language construct. Not only does this reduce the effort of learning, but it reduces the volume of the language's description and thereby the possibilities of inconsistency and of misunderstanding. Keeping a language as simple and as regular as possible has always been a guideline in my work; the description of Pascal took some 50 pages, that of Modula 40, and Oberon's a mere 16 pages. This I still consider to have been genuine progress.
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>>69885298
wirth creator Pascal, turing award and write beautiful intro to programming call algortihms + data structures = programs, I found rare /g/ don't meme him and John McCarthy (Lisp creator).
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>>69882995
>Oberon
why no point and click means too much?

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So I started with Python (as it seems everyone online advises), and I'm definitely read to move on. I've been at it for about a month, and although I've learned a lot (including loops, functions, data types, recursion, basic data structures, etc), I don't actually get how all of it works underneath. It's like I keep throwing together random things to solve a problem, then mash run and debug until I can get it to work, with a very shaky understanding of why any of it does what it does. Python's "it just works" mentality makes it so yeah, it works, but I hardly know why.

So I'm looking for a language that is minimalistic and simple, and that has little in the way of syntactic sugar or other things that obscure what is actually happening. My intuition tells me that C is a good idea, but people also tell me that it's dated and takes too long to do even simple things. Not sure who to believe.

In terms of what I want to do with programming, I'd like to gain a better understanding of how computers work, and also I'd like to make indie games eventually.
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If you want to learn how a computer actually works, you need to go to a school or take a course. It doesn't help you at all unless you're planning on creating something that low level.

If you want to become a good programmer, then you need to learn your data structures and try implementing some algorithms. This and Leet code, and you can even land your first job. If you want to make python games that don't run like garbage, you'll probably need to implement data structures that reduce checks, so things like Quad trees, A^, etc.

If you REALLY want to make games and learn how to program at the same time, I recommend you use a framework. Seriously, nobody is going to give you points for writing everything yourself. Most software is just glue holding other software, and when you're just starting out it's a hard thing to accept and live with. When I was starting, I wanted to write everything, EVERYTHING. Every data structure, every line of code. I felt that if I didn't write it, then I was cheating. It's not. Most software is just about creating an experience, whether it's online, offline, a game, or an app. If you want to create good software, which should be your ultimate goal, then you need to look past the lines on your screen. Wanting to be the best programmer ever is like wanting to be the best hammerer ever. It doesn't matter, and people only care about their roofs and sheds and stuff.
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>minimalist and simple
Lisp

>has little syntactic sugar
Lisp

Also the best way to learn how to program multicore systems is to learn Erlang. It basically makes parallel and concurrent programming trivial.
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sorry im going to hijack this thread: whats the best way to start learning a programming language if im not going to school for it?
is there any website, books, videos that you guys can recommend that gives an introduction as well as beginner projects to work on?
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C or assembly

#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
fprintf(stdout, "Hello world.\n");
return 0;
}


    .data
hello:
.ascii "Hello world\n"
.text
.globl _start
_start:


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>>69885729
Why do you want to learn programming?

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holy fuck, how is Apple so based??
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>>69882954
this
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>>69884943
underrated
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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>69869949
I don't think most of the posters ITT know
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>>69869718
why is everyone calling this based? why are there so many replies to this one post?

Can anyone tell me why phone companies still bother with making different colored backings for their phone when they know that 99% of their consumers will just buy a phone case?
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>>69885415
because people that don't use a case are their wealthiest customers
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okay, so what color do you choose to be your one color then?
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>>69885507
grey
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https://youtu.be/vvFeqL86JBk
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>>69885415
looks good in the show room

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no. python is the brainlet language.
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>>69885129
But i already understand

If else

While loop

Var string array
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>>69885256
do you understand objects? recursion? pointers? memory? stack vs heap? stick to python.
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>>69885080
I'd learn both a statically typed functional language (Haskell, F#, or any other ML derived lanugage) and any imperative language before tackling Rust imho.

From that background, you'll be able to learn Rust in a week if you need to, since you only need to understand ownership & the borrow checker.

Rust is still a fairly new language with very few jobs, so you can learn it later at any time, and I'd go for something that gives you a more distilled learning experience first.

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i wanna die edition
/cyb/erpunk:
The Cypherpunk Manifesto https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html
The Cyberpunk Manifesto http://project.cyberpunk.ru/idb/cyberpunk_manifesto.html

"What is cyberpunk?" https://pastebin.com/hHN5cBXB

Cyberpunk directory (Communities, Media, Readings) https://pastebin.com/VAWNxkxH
Cyberpunk resources (Miscellaneous) https://pastebin.com/Dqfa6uXx

/cyb/ ftp: ftp://50.31.112.231/pub/
ftp://collectivecomputers.org:21212/Books/Cyberpunk/

/sec/urity:
The Hacker Manifesto: http://phrack.org/issues/7/3.html

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Ok I'm going to ask here since I am not sure where else to ask.

So I did a network scan (ping method) on my network with my android phone. I noticed when I can the subnet for wired connections I dont see any devices, only when I scan specific ip address for the wired device (same method, pinging)

I haven't tried with my laptop, using debian or whatever, but what could possible cause this? Scanning too fast maybe?
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>>69883114
Once upon a time anti-malware and anti-spyware were two applications recommended to be installed together, not sure about now. MalwareBytes was the recommended anti-malware.
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>>69870275
>Rollerball (2002)

What the FUCK is wrong with you anon? its Rollerball (1975)
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>>69877822
I alway check the hash of a file on virustotal. They have a uploader tool and I often upload any pdf/exe before I run that shit on my computer

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do you care about software minimalism?
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>>69883824
New isn't necessarily better. But neither is old.
Old shit should be objectively judged and criticized by today's standards instead of being put on a pedestal.
There are many things about software that we could do better nowadays, but instead are just historical baggage.
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>>69883879
>criticized by today's standards
SGI are shit because they don't have Fortnite and can't play Youtube videos.
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>>69882642
>Keep dreaming python fag
I don't know python :^) And don't refer to HashMaps as "hash" because you sound retarded.
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>>69875864
Only if it lines up with my pragmatism.
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>>69875864
>(((uriel)))
and nothing of value was lost

numbers > Excel > Google Shits
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Calc > Google shit > Numbers > Excel
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>>69884886
Sounds like you’r retarded.
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>>69882782
>not doing spreadsheets on paper like God intended
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How do Numbers or Google Shit manage pivotables? My work relies almost entirely on that.
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>>69882782
>>69884958
t. unemployeed

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>>69879928
Thnks
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>>69863670
Do you still have those albums hanged on your wall?
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>>69867855
WHY
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got rid of the imac for you fa /g /g ots
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>Read
>>51971506

>GNU/Linux questions?
>>>/g/fglt

>PC building?
>>>/g/pcbg

>Programming questions?
>>>/g/dpt


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>>69884894
>They do not offer any pop3/imap/forwarding features.
what the fuck are you on?
https://status.cock.li/
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Can someone explain to me what a decoder is ? I'm using this media player called foobar 2000 and it has this component that Adds decoding support for Sony PlayStation Sound Format files.

I'm not entirely sure what that means, any help would be appreciated.
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>>69885040
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure there's no alternative firmware for kindles in the same way that there's custom android roms. You're probably out of luck.
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>>69885254
pls halp I have autism
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>>69877240
what do those do?

>Be me, 2016.
>Decide to get a new rig, the 1060 just came out. Spend 300€ on one, another 300€ on a 6600k. Life's good.
>As the years pass, I start yearning for a bit more gpu power. The only upgrade path available is buying a 1080ti, which would imply double dipping on the same series of GPUs, decide to wait, AMD brings out Ryzen, it looks good, they start talking about Vega, its gonna be the shit, hbm2, cheaper than nvidia's offering.
>Vega comes out, mining fucks prices up, its hot, power hungry and not even close to a 1080ti.
>Decide to blame it on the miners. If it weren't for them, Vega would have been sweet. Still cranking my 1060 like it's going out of style
>RTX comes out. The prices are ridiculous. literally 800€ for the 2080, which can't even beat a 1080ti and has less memory. Now it's the time, Amd has everything lined up. They just need to improve vega, make it more efficient, more powerfull and 500 euros, they'll take over the whole damn scene. Team green won't even know what hit them.
> AdoredTV hypes up navi for january. It's going down. AMD will rape nvidia badly, 7nm by itself is enough to beat nvidia, not even taking into account the advances made in the new architecture. It's gonna be massive.
>Radeon VII.
>Radeon FUCKING VII.
>700€. 16 gb of hbm2 for gaming.
>Everything collapses. Everything was a fucking lie. Navi won't even come until 6 months from now, won't beat a fucking 2070, much less a 1080ti, which will be an almost 4 yo card by then.
>I could have spent 700 on the 1080ti 3 years ago and would have enjoyed the best experience available all that time. Instead, I trusted the underdog, waited for something that will never come.

Fuck amd, honestly. I know many of you hold a grudge against Nvidia and Intel for being greedy, but how is AMD any diferent? Their cpus and gpus are mediocre at best, and not even that much cheaper in the high end.


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>>69885255
I have a 1060, you complete retard. That was my whole point.

>>69885331
>ids da game devs
Weird how the games all ran steady before the driver update.
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>>69885331
>games don't get bad updates

what masterpiece game are you talking about that Nvidia had to break it to sell RTX to you.

Not even gonna mention how destroying the longevity of their products hurts potential sales in the future
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>>69875768
>ordered an rx580 on Monday
>read this thread
>comes tomorrow
I am concerned I made a horrible mistake. How fucked am I?
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>>69885695
rx580 will be fine as long as 1080p is good enough for you, it's a better buy over 1060 since they are about the same in power and has 8gb of vram and that's more "future proof' since devs have gotten greedy with their textures
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>>69875768
>gaymers aren't retarde-


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