Sick duck edition>Who is /fat/ for?For fat fucks who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros) or LoseIt (great for both).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 1g per lb of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and burn fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body burning away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat hyper-processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gyno & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqOld thread >>71063974
Reminder to lose weight
Another 4 pounds of 80/20 beef today. Today I will make burger patties, cooking them crisp and lightly salting them. Yum
>>71078992>zero progress in 5 months
>>71079030Lol. My starting point was very originally 355 lbs, where I did keto down to 320 lbs, to where I got down to where I am now from there from carnivore, but tried mixing in fasting days in which I'd lose willpower and cheat on my diet. Every massive peak is a week I cheated. I'm choosing to give up on cheating or fasting and stick to the diet I've set for myself in earnest. Progress stalls aren't scaring me because I understand why I'm stalling and no, it's not because I eat meat.
>>71079065You can do it, recognising the problems is half the battle.
>>71079065I'm not saying you're stalling because you eat meat. I'm saying you're stalling because you eat 4600 kcal a day, which is more than enough for your body to function without using your fat storage, at all. In fact, that's enough calories for a massive roider lifting everyday to maintain his weight. I very much doubt you're The Rock, so you shouldn't expect any progress if you keep eating like that.
>eat a bowl of greens every day >sometimes 2>eat fruit every day>loseit says I’m below my fiber targetWhat the fug. How do I fibermaxx?
>>71079090Those who are doing the carnivore (elimination) diet do things little different. We are always eating until we are satiated, following our hunger to its limit (if the food stops tasting as good, that's the signal to stop). My limit seems to hover around 4-5 lbs as of now. As my body heals, the amount I need lowers and lowers. That'll be when I see true progress. That being said, most of the caloric content of meat is saturated fat, which the human body can only digest so much of, so it's likely not even over my TDEE after my bile is expended.
>>71079142>We are always eating until we are satiated, following our hunger to its limitKeep that for when you're at a healthy weight. You can't feel satiated all the time AND lose weight. I know it sucks, but that's the way it is. Find something else to forget about the hunger.
>>71079133Pic rel. It says I got 0 fiber today because I haven’t had my bowl. I’m tempted to just supplement Metamucil but I thought you could get enough fiber just through diet alone.
>>71079160I have already done it previously in this contest. I know it's possible. I follow Dr. Anthony Chaffee's advice on the subject matter, although he has never been as fat as me, I still had great progress despite being on a stall doing keto. (I have to do low-carbohydrate diets because I have type 2 diabetes) I only failed because I got bored and decided to cheat on my diet as per my girlfriend's advice, as she was worried about me only eating animal products. This lead to my leptin being blocked thanks to the unique relationship leptin has with carbohydrates, inducing the feeling that I was never satiated, allowing myself to gorge far more than I should have. My T2D has (thankfully) been less painful when I cheat, but it's not something I want to worsen, hence why I'm sticking to this diet. No disrespect, but I will treat my diabetes before I care about weight loss, as simple low calorie foods high in carbs do not reverse T2D to any meaningful degree.
>>71079142>>71079160I'm not going to tell this guy how to eat or go through is process with his body.I'll just say that I don't really understand the idea of eating until satiation or fullness when you are by definition attempting to starve the body of energy so that it taps into fat reserves. The language of 'healing, following hunger cues' is associated with the Intuitive Eating crowed that is about 95% female land whales looking for an excuse to eat shit and not feel bad about it.For me (for me); when I dropped my calories significantly and just changed the types of food I was eating, bumped up the protein, and drank a lot more water, my body pretty quickly adapted to it and I never really feel hungry anymore. "Waiting for your body" to take the lead seems like you have it backwards, but to each his own
>PT I've known since I was 15 (now 27) suggests I should get a Testosterone test>He said with my level of training its not good I cant hold my fitness level>He said im a "low-responder" to fitness trainingI just wanna bet fit & skinny bros; what does it all mean
>>71079303Unironically keto is good for gigafats because there are mechanisms that induce satiety to where they consistently eat under their TDEE in controlled studies. Its not the greatest diet ever unlike what a certain ketarded individual would have you believe but it has its uses, and a medical condition that hampers how one’s body processes sugars is definitely one of them.
>>71079160>You can't feel satiated all the time AND lose weightYou actually could in theory, if you only ate low fat greek yoghurt but you'd get tired of eating it real quick
i'm so close to reaching 30 BMI. Just need to lose a few more kgs
>>71079239you can do it dude :) i just ground up a whole sirloin into burger patties, leaving the ENTIRE fat cap on. i will make burger patties out of them since all the steaks i have cooked always turned out shit, but i binged 3 hours of Sous Vide Everything yesterday and i am now confident that i need to get sous vide equipment to make them actually tasty.once you unfucked yourself hormonally, don't force yourself to eat that much, let your appetite regulate it. been doing it for 36 days now and i didn't even think about cheating or eating despite watching hours of content of people making steaks and insane potato/rice dishes. it became fucking easy to be honest
my body is sore bros. tell me is a good thing. im just doing calisthenics
I'm a sick duck I like a quick quack
>>71078897i really really really fucked up by eating with normies and npcs my plan is trying to get the autism back to be normie is to be fatonly autistically i can find my way to the healthy bmi
>>71078897I used to say that I'd trade being skinny just to have fat on me, but I actually have more than 10% fat and its gross.dont get me wrong, this belly shit is actually fun and squishy but still need to be cute enough for ryan reynolds
Wtf just realized there is no rooster
>>71079455Thanks, dude. Sirloin is the best for burger meat, I love the taste. I haven't tried sous vide-ing anything, myself, but I am familiar with Guga and his channels, always great content. I hope to be like you soon. Keep it up, you're doing great.
>>71079534I wonder if it's fan art.
>>71079361True, and you'd also shit bricks.
>>71079478It’s going to happen again eventually. You just need a game plan and to succeed with that game plan ONCE, all the subsequent times will be easier. Soon you’ll be turning down slop left and right
>>71079579i did succeed once i just stopped to start eating more socially with othersand by eating with them i fucked myself up so much so fast i had really reached a great goal, but let it slip like a dumb dumb but yes, i already know what to do, i'll just restart and i'll get back there eventually
>>71079133>>71079190literally just beans
10 weeks in and the hunger has completly vanished. Got used to doing OMAD and while I was hungry as fuck in the evening/late at night for the first 4-6 weeks it just stopped happening a few weeks agoComfy riding from here on out, it's the easiest losing weight has ever been for me
>>71078897I'm doing great and eating great! Limited processed shit. I save $ on food and have gotten more energy. I've noticed my sweatpants gently rubbing onto my legs. I feel them getting looser and it feels great! I also see in the mirror that I've become slimmer and my cheeks are not as puffy as they were.
>vigorous exercise 4 hours/week>eat OMAD and end the day with equivalent of 300-900 below maintenance calories according to TDEE>have been stuck at at ~236 lbs for 13 days now>ree-ing internallyThis plateau is killing me bros. I was losing 1.3 lbs/week up until now.
>>71079810what kinda app or scale is that?did you do the watermarks yourself?
>>71078897Pretty /fat/ fuck here 260 lbs 5'11. Lifting for years but have 2 kids and married. Was going to run 5/3/1 SLBBB(3×10 version) and run a deficit on calorie consumption to eat around 2200 kcals and try and do an hour of cardio each day with 3 of those days being rucking. Was thinking about doing 24-48 hour fasts on the weekend as well to help with loose skin if that happens. Let me know what you think>tldr:>lift 5 days/ week on 531>cut calories down to 2200 from 3380(current tdee)>macro profile 40%p/30%c/30%f>do liss cardio 5×/week>optional 24-48 hour fasts on weekend
>>71079859Forgot lust provoking image>tldr:>lift 5 days/ week on 531>cut calories down to 2200 from 3380(current tdee)>macro profile 40%p/30%c/30%f>do liss cardio 5×/week>optional 24-48 hour fasts on weekend
>>71079858It's openScale. I connected it to my BT enabled scale and it stores the data automatically. It's sweet.
>>71079878>Forgot lust provoking imageWhere is it then?
>>71079731>1 cup = half of the daily fiberNot bad. Thanks anon.
>>71079239what specifically causes you pain when you eat?
>>71078986thanks for reminding me...
>>71079856First of all, weigh yourself every day at the same time and look at trends instead of looking at the weight you were at the 7th or the 14th day or whatever.If the plateau persists choose a day and do a carb load.Basically eat like shit, focusing on carbs mainly, don't try to stay close to your tdee or whatever just gorge out.For some reason it works for me, you might lose 3-4 days of calorie deficit that way but it should get you over the weight loss plateau.Don't use this as an excuse to cheat, do it only once every two monthd max.Also if you have a cheat day a week or something, DON'T.
I just ate a small (14 oz) lemon cake marked down at the grocery store>1250 kcals>110 g of sugarHow do I recover?
>>71079303this right here
>>71080002>weigh yourself every dayThat's just gonna kill your motivation for most people, once a week is better
>>71080048>How do I recover?do better tomorrow
>>71080128More data is always better.If you're a brainlet that doesn't understand simple shit like water weight you might be discouraged sure, but having to wait a week to weigh yourself on the day that your body decided to hold on to 2kgs of water weight is far more discouraging.
>>71080002>>71080128I actually have been weighing myself daily (after waking up and using the toilet).236 lbs is my moving average over the last two weeks; it's actually been between 234-238.>>71080002I might try this if this continues for another week.>cheat daylmao
>>71080176you just do it consistently the same day every week as soon as you wake up before you do anything else, weight will usually be the same minus the weight you lost
>>71080128for me it's the exact opposite. i have to weigh myself every day or else i start slipping
What medications are good for weightloss? I have no problem in not eating, just wanna speed up loss, so liraglutide/semaglutide would be overkill. Can metformin be used to loose weight? How bout yohimbine? ECA-stack I would avoid considering the sides. T3 seams to be pretty effective but I don't wanna fuck up my thyroid. Anything else?
>>71079360yea but this guy is managing to eat double his TDEE in spite of that
>tfw under 30% bf for the first time in yearsstill fat as fuck but i'll take the W
>>71080189Do you not understand?You have to wait a week, roll the dice and hope the weekly weigh-in day is not one where your body decided to hold on to water.You're getting shit data that way.The average weight lost per week past the initial loss is usually around 1kg, water weight fluctuations are up to 3kgs, if you're unlucky you could do everything right for a week, weigh yourself and be 2 kgs heavier than you were last week.Then of course you have to wait another week and weigh yourself again.Why go blind into this?
>>71080207don't, unless you are at an imminent risk of death scenario, just lose it slowly and more consistently. It will be healthier and less risk of burnout
>>71079360it's harder to binge eat on keto as well
>>71079859unless you've done fasting before and know what you're getting into i highly recommend against it. multi-day progressive fatigue is real and fasting after you've run a week of deficit+exercise isnt really sustainable.
How do you prevent constipation while doing lowcarb?I've been eating veggies and nuts, but whenever I have to take a dump, I have to squeeze real hard and I feel pain in my lower back.
GMMFGET YOUR WORKOUT IN NOW,DONT DELAYWAGMI
>>71080822checked and done with muh workout. thanks brogonna have me a salad for lunch
>>71080673Eat more fat, drink more water.
>>71080207IF you want to speed things up, add more low-mid intensity cardio. Better all around. Any drug that increases your energy consumption (usually through raised body temp) will make you feel like shit and carry disproportional risks.Just walk more man.
>>71079856Take this weekend and bump up your calories, don't count (don't pig out, you know in your heart what is eating more good food and what is being a glutton).Then get back to the process Monday, and don't step on the scale for a whole week. Remember this is a long game and success comes from habits over time, you'll make it
>>71080673If you've been eating veggies you shouldn't have constipation, but the answer is fiber. Get psylium husk if you need it, it's basically just fiber.
>>71079702would it have been possible to choose smaller portions?
Ozempic is too strong man. Im looking at 2 small sugar donuts, a small sandwich, some chips, and a chocolate bar and the thought of eating all of it makes me sick. Im just gonna take a few bites of each. Im only on 0.5 too and I thought it wouldnt work when I started at 0.25 I might just OMAD with some fruit and salad, everything else is overwhelmingFor refernece, 2 months ago I would eat over 4000 calories in one sitting and easily 8000 over a full 24 horusToo bad it wont make me less ugly or short or bald. Im just taking it out of curiosity what its like to have normal hunger signals cause I have enough disposable income
>tfw getting ozempic-like effects by just not eating muffins/bagels anymore
>>71081111witness'd quads of truth
>>71081095>take small bites of EVERYTHING instead of just choosing one treatwhy would you take bites of donuts AND a sandwich AND chips AND a chocolate bar all in the same meal? One sandwich and 3 different unhealthy snack treats?If you don't really feel a devastating need, choose like the sandwich and half of a donut if you MUST get something sweet but "hurr durr I'm going to have desserts 1, 2 and 3 during one meal" mentality is exactly what you should be trying to quit via the drug
Can I drink water or coffee at 8pm while my omad was at 11am?
>>71080207Anything that increases thyroid function, testosterone or body heat.
what's a safe/good way to increase testosterone while cutting?
>>71081073maybebut ive been retardeded by childhood obesityi escaped it strugglingly, and as soon as i restarted eating with my family again, i regained
>>71081181I hope this is a joke. OMAD and other time-restricted diets only care about calories, if it's calorie free you can eat/drink it anytime you want
Going back to my three digit calorie intake a day diet. Under 1000, hopefully 500 max. Proteinmaxxing
>>71081095It honestly feels like cheating. Feel like sick if I eat ANYTHING that isn't clean. Nauseous all the time. Fuck Ozempic. You willl lose weight but you have to fix your diet if you dont want to feel like shit and desu your workouts will alwys feel like shit especially if you lift weights. Forget bulking. You have to lift on a cut
interesting to feel my tastes changing, I was making a side of some steamed broccoli with salt and low fat cheese on top and I found myself snacking on some plain broccoli and enjoying it , practically unthinkable two months ago
>>71081461are you retarded? eat, nigger
>>71081095>Im looking at 2 small sugar donuts, a small sandwich, some chips, and a chocolate bar>sitting in front of a selection of high fat high sugar hyper palatable food (I'm going to be generous and assume the sandwich was ok)why why why why why, it's like you are purposely trying not to make it man,
>>71081695Thats the point. I have my kyryptonite in front of me and eating like half of it made me feel sick. I still feel sick. Ozempic is the only way I could acomplsi hthisMy calore total for the day is probably 2k, which is way below my pre-ozempic standard of 8k. I was skeptical but this goy injection works. Honestly I'm going to be skelly by the end of the year and I have no qualms. Hopefully the rebound when I get off is manageable
>>71081725>that's the pointTo try and change NONE of your eating habits? So that you are perfectly set up to fail once you come off the drug?You can add retard to ugly short and bald I guess,
the ozempic schizos in this general are just as bad as ketoschizo
>>71081095>takes ozempic for weight>doesn’t take finasteride/dutasteride and minoxidil for hair
>>71081857At least ozempic works, unlike keto.
>>71081956that's fair but have you seen the posts of the ozempic users the last few threads? they all have serious mental problems.
>>71081966It‘s a magic fat loss pill designated for people who can’t lose fat any other way which includes mentally unstable people.
>>71081857both are shill bots, so you buy their product
Fatty ContestRSlurStrength197.6lbsHappy to be below 200 for the first time in years but I still want to lose another ~25lbs
>>71078897lmfao from where do you get these pictures? any link to the artist
>>71082075Google duck nuns and they'll pop up
>>71081413Make food yourself. Dont eat what your family buys. Do your own groceries. Track calories and weight yourself. If you need a fren, I'll be there for you. You will get my support, whenever you'll need it.
>>71081461Please change your diet. It's not healthy and it's counterproductive. Iform yourself on dieting. You should read the sticky.
>>71078986OH NO NO NO NO NO I FORGOT NO NO BROS NOT LIKE THIS
The only gym available to me without having to drive for 40+ minutes is Planet Fitness. Is having a Smith machine instead of barbells really as bad as people say? What if I care more about losing fat than gaining muscle? Also I see some ripped fuckers in PF so it can't be that bad, right?
I just...gotta MOONCH
How can i avoid fat gain after jumping off keto?Im 270lbs 6'5", i managed to lose 20 lbs couple of times after 10 days of keto but it comes back again really fast
Fatty ContestBurned Man180.8
>>71082856And is there some better diet for me out there? I cant count calories cause im not american insofar i dont eat food out of plastic containers all dayDo i have to stick to a diet long term? Which one?
>>71082881>I cant count calories cause im not american insofar i dont eat food out of plastic containers all daywhat lol
What can I reasonably hope to lose in 6 weeks with omad and daily training? Currently 6'1" 250lbs - I never took workout seriously and can handle an omad just fine, albeit while going at nearly my tdee when I do eat.
>>71081857Not even close. Keto schizo made the thread so unusable he was banned. There are probably 2-4 active ozempic shills but combined they have 1/10th the power of ketoschizo. I barely even noticed until you pointed it out.
>>71082856>>71082881The absolute state of ketotards
>>71082991Depending on the size of your meal, you can lose anywhere from 18kg to 0kg or even gain weight
>>71080434That's why I put optional. I probably wouldn't have it in me to do it on the weekend in all honesty. Does everything else look good though?
>>71083048HA did the schizo get beaned? this made my day
Fatty Contestxsept86.1 kgsHappy birthday to me, let's keep grinding bros. 7 kgs until the sub-25 BMI.
>>7108312910kg here and it still seems completely out of reach.
>>71081095>damn bros, I have no appetite, the thought of eating makes me sick. I'm only gonna have donuts, chips and chocolate but I'll have to force myself, and then I'll probably eat some more
>>71083064In a very hopeful world I would love to lose 30 pounds just so I can reach 100kg.What would I need to do to reach that? Using OP's tdee calculator, my tdee is around 2600 and in order to lose 30pounds in 7 weeks (not 6, I'm a retard) I would need to lose 4 pounds per week.
>>71083073I actually popped a boner from this
turns out there is such a thing as too wide a bench grip, and if you care to find out you shouldn't do it with a working set weightt. now wiser man with a swollen painful wrist
>>710833321kg of fat is 7700 calories. In order to lose 15kg in 6 weeks, you need a total deficit of 115,500 calories. That‘s 2750 calories per day for 6*7=42 days. Assuming your TDEE is 2600 calories, it’s impossible even if you were to eat nothing. You could try to bring up your TDEE by drinking black coffee all day though.
I thought I'd have to significantly lower my portions of stuff but 12oz of chicken breast covers basically my entire plate at ~500 calories and a ton of protein.
>4 days of over eating>back up 10lbsShiieeet.
>>71083085Well either banned or got bored and finally moved on, but given his autism I think it’s the first one. I haven’t seen a ketarded infographic in at least a week.
Fatty ContestWrapEnjoyer146.7kgGreat week and with my new hot sauces I love my wraps even more
>>71084018>got boredfat (low carb) chance. Say what you want about the guy but his dedication to shit up this thread is squarely into autism territory
>3 day weekend coming up >urge to buy a bottle of whiskey and drink risingStop me /fat/. I'm not an alcoholic but I don't go anywhere outside of work and just stay home and if I get bored I either wanna eat, get drunk, or get high and right now I can control the eating but the other 2 sound fun
Just ate a 2500 dinner with lots of pork fat..
>>71084133Getting high shouldn't have any effect provided you're not getting munchies and eating junk. It'll fuck your lungs up, sure, but if you're running that's fine.Even then, if you want to get drunk while losing weight liquor is the best way to do it. Highly recommend reading this: https://leangains.com/the-truth-about-alcohol-fat-loss-and-muscle-growth/
>>71084133puff the magic dragon
I don't know if I'm going to make it this weekend bros. I've been stressing all week about a job I've been hoping to get because my current one is soul crushingly bad and today I had two pretty big bowls of rice and terriyaki chicken. I've eaten less than 2500 calories but I've been riding it pretty close the past couple days and I'm sure I'm back in the 450s by now. I still have a few more days to chill and eat on a decent cut and/or fast, but I was supposed to hear back today and I've heard nothing and now I'm just....I hate stressing out. I'm sorry.>t. Suomixar
>>71084293450lbs? you will lose weight even at 3k calories.Also start walking.
>>71084258>>71084263Actually I binged a shit ton the last time I got high so thats out of the question too. At least alcohol doesn't make me binge eat but it is worse for weightloss and health. Bah
>>71084018that makes me happy
>had a 10 piece mcnuggie and a quarter pounder>still below my budget and am gonna go workout later is it really this easy bros?
Fatty ContestEGGZO184.0 lbsEnded up maintaining this week as a short break, getting back to it though
>>71085008Yes you can still eat fast food and lose weight. The only problem is it ironically takes more discipline over time to stay within your calories on a fast food diet than it does on a cleaner diet. Since it’s not satiating.
>>71085173nta but at some point I broke my hunger/craving signaling and I can eat whatever, whenever, or nothing at all, doesn't bother me. I could actually eat one potato chip like a psycho and just move on with my life. It's making sticking with macros pretty easy, obviously. On the downside (i guess) I can't empathize at all anymore with people talking about that stuff here. I mean, I still remember binging, I still remember the "well I already had one slice of pizza, I may as well just eat half the pizza and "start" tomorrow" - but somewhere along that line I took that kike out and shot him in the head,
Fatty ContestSonyWalkman92.7kgHope you're well /fat/s.Jumped into C25K at week 5. My dumb ass wants to join a run in July so we're starting halfway. Tough but completed the three runs for the week. Only 50km of distance this week as a result of less long, low intensity walks.Lifting was fun, played with the hex bar for the first time and I think I'll use that every now and then from now on. Weight was lower yesterday but I had to meet someone for breakfast and then lunch. The protein and vegetables trick mitigated a lot of the damage.Really getting into tea. Loose leaf has a very well preserved flavour compared to bags that I never realised. If you're looking for something to replace sugary drinks it's worth exploring.
>>71078897Day 4 87.6 kg lost some water weight still fat doe.
Was going for a walk today but decided I should go cart some wood as its going to be a cold weekend. Should sort out my cardio for the day. 24hours til weighin. Lets fucking go.
>>71084037Based. Good looking chart so far too bro. Keep on eating them wraps.
>>71082607I'll make this about free weights vs machines as I'd like to get a certain mindset across here>free weights+ Have to provide your own stability, thus recruiting and developing more muscle groups to complete moments+ Improvements in balance+ Versatility. There's a lot that can be accomplished with bars and iron plates.= Can be a quicker workout, you get your (for example) 5x5 of squat/bench/row or squat/ohp/deadlift done in an hour, that's a full body workout done and you're on your way to work or school or whatever for the day, nice and easy- More difficult execution, you'll need to learn good habits or be ready to fix bad ones- Benefits taper off quickly the exercise is done with bad form or "cheated" (e.g. squats turn into more of a back exercise than a leg exercise as you get tired on the final reps)>machines+ Get in and go, little instruction needed. There are usually even pictograms on the machine that explain it.+ Can target specific, isolated muscles (useful if you want to build that muscle specifically or you like to do push/pull or back/arms/legs kind of splits)= Some machines are just kind of fun to use.- Doing a full body workout on every machine will take a longer time that using the barbell- Gym doesn't have the machine, you're don't get to do that exercise- Won't do much for balanceYou'll probably see people evangelise for free weights over machines but it's about what you want to achieve rather than trying to find an objective "better". Both have their place and purposes and long term you're not stuck to one either. PF might not have bars but your next gym might.You'll develop muscle and help your weight loss along just fine on a smith machine. The important thing is to go and use it.
Fatty Contestpolo187.4 lbs
>>71079030>lost 20 pounds per month under extreme keto dietthough I probably had help with cardio, and I wasnt that fat to begin with compared to others. The leftover skin did take a bit to go back to normal, it wasn't that much difference, now am mostly trying to improve my cardio and then I'll focus on gaining muscle mass. Though I am no longer following that diet, my version was just meat, salt, hot pepper seasoning and eggs, would occassionally drink green tea, heard it helps with fat burning and losing excess water but that was about it
>>71085008Ill be out working in the yard all day but will be having pizza for dinner tonight. The only thing it might have an effect on is tomorrows fatty weigh in, but overall the big picture is still down down down.
>>71080402A single carton of heavy cream is the TDEE of many fatasses so I doubt that.
Pic related is in mah foods. How long until I develop terminal cancer?
>>71079142>my bileare you even balancing your humors bro
I have 4 kilos to goWAGMI
>>71085196Got any tips? I can achieve robot mode for limited amounts of time but would love to have access to it at will.
>>710804024 lbs of beef per day dude
I made someone much fitter and taller than me bleed during boxing sparing today
Today marks 3 months since I started my serious weight loss. Shame this 3 month number will gradually get smaller on average.
>>71086564I don't think that's something to brag about unless you spar extra hard or something
>>71086647It was a counter punch, and I always felt like a punching bag during sparing, so this felt good. Said sorry to the guy and asked if we wanted to continue, told me it's all good and "This is what we're here for"
So I'm on the longest fast I've achieved in years (entering my 6th day as I type this) Feel pretty shit ill be honest BUT my cravings aren't killing me, im hoping I can turn this into a mutli week water fast or even longer. I think whats finally helped me fight the cravings is my Bupropion, gonna stick with this med forever if this is the result, im thinking about trying to get some doc to give me Rybelsus (oral version of Ozempic) I'm happy but im also frustrated im thinking all these years I was chemically imbalanced.
Do I just quit all the processes shit immediately? Or do i slowly cut it out of my diet?Any BED recoverers have any advice? I can't afford Ozempic, no health insurance.
>>71086963I have BED probably (unironically one of the worst here I bet), before I started meds that helped I cut back to a 2000 cal diet and slowly weaned myself off of processed crap. Cutting yourself cold turkey is fucking HARD, don't recommend it unless you have the willpower of a titan. >no health insurance I was the same but me being a broke fuck let me get Medicaid, you should apply if you're low income they're letting many many people in if they're low/no income now.
what are some good dense low calorie snack to stave off random bouts of hunger?
>be eating at deficit for month and a half >making steady progress>randomly start feeling intense hunger this week>have to force myself way more than usual to stay within my cals>oh shit I’m gonna fucking moooooonch>check LoseIt>forgot I was playing with the settings last weekend and changed the cals from 1900 to 1650Whew. 250 doesn’t seem like it should have that much effect but I guess since I’ve been doing it for 5 days it adds up?
>>71086985Would you say you eat clean now? Or do you still allow yourself junk food?I'm really struggling between allowing myself some junk, switching to healthier options like (dark chocolate, rice cake chips, 6 inch subway, etc) or just stop buying that shit. Realistically, I agree quitting cold turkey won't work, but I'm terrified of never getting my act together because I'd still buy junkfood every week.
>>71087067I eat clean when I actually eat but I've been fasting a shitton ill be honest, I started with doing three day and then four and then five but now im planning on doing a multi week fast if I can help it. Everyones cravings are different too ill be honest anon, my thing is I like feeling full so I always went with brown rice, salads, some kinda protein. You just gotta keep working at it and believe in yourself, wgmi.
>>71086668okay nice then bro :)
>>71087054cheese, sardines, eggs (boiled), jerky
>>71086596That's crazy fast loss good shit. I hope you're doing weight lifting+high protein tho
>>71080075holy shit this movie scared the hell out of me as a kid
>>710788975 more weeks(?)
>146kg (322lbs) peak >126kg (277lbs) currently Lost 20kg in two months amd going strong, the thought of fried chicken now physically repulses me and i cant believe i ever binged on that toxic shit.Getting in 20,000 steps in daily without fail, thinking of joining a gym.WAGMI
>>71082235thank you i'll come back with good news
My penis is too small even without the fat illusion som what's the point of losing weight.
>>71087754How about you go somewhere else then? This is /fat/, not /selfpity/.
>>71087754being fat can impair blood flow. maybe you make some penis gains after some weight loss
>>71087754it's still worth it. i know i'm never gonna get laid as a 30 year old virgin but i'm still losing weight so that at least i don't sweat like a pig all the time
>>71078897No rooster in this one...
>eat between 1.5k and 1.8k a day>average 3k steps a day throughout the week (a combination of rest days and 6-8k steps days)>go see 5 doctors and ask why am I not losing weight being at least 30kg overweight>test for diabetes, comes negative (minor increase in glycose, insluin is within the norm)>"you're probably just MISCOUNTING the calories, try keeping a diary" (i.e. you're lying about your food)>6th doctor finally decided to do a 24h urine test for glucose>turns out I have elevated levels of glucose throughout the day>eat 1 pill a day that fixes this shit>make no change to diet or activity>lost 7kg this month so farWell that sucks. Shouldn't have believed retards online and made no progress in 6-8 months thinking I'm at fault for misunderstanding the calories or the activity levelsCheck your health lads
>>71087983Interesting. What's the condition called/the medication's name?
Fatty ContestPultdach161.6kg187cmbroke through the plateau and then some, took long enough.
>>71088065The medicine is based on metformin, cheap af where I live. The condition was prescribed as pre-diabetes, but the doctor said that in order to identify the exact type and the exact malfunction in the body there needs to be further research done. For instance he said that it could be that I don't produce enough insulin, or that the insulin is not effective enough despite a normal quantity, or that the glucose is being protected from being processed in some way (don't remember the details), and so son. He said that we're just treating the result of some sort of malfunction until further research is done, but if it's effective then there's definitely some sort of malfunction and it needs to be treated (most likely via drugs).
>>71087983Damn. I usually tell people to go get checked if they stall out for a month+ since I figured a doctor could tell if they legitimately had an issue vs just sucked at counting calories. Disheartening to hear that you had to go through 5 of them to find your issue.
>>71088103Really really interesting. Thanks for sharing.>>71088222You gotta shop around for doctors sometimes, there's a few who'll put a patient in the too hard basket if they can't see a clear solution right away. They don't even think to send off for more than rudimentary tests some of the time. To a degree, you need to be your own doctor and advocate for yourself, do your own research and find the right questions to ask. It's a shame but no one can ever be more invested in your own health than you.
>>71088222That's not even the worst thing I was told.I used to have a condition that was making me sweat a lot, even in situations when supposedly there shouldn't be any sweating. I went and had my thyroid checked and it was fine. Then all the doctors kept telling me, to my face, "maybe you're just getting nervous, have you tried a psychiatrist?". I kept telling them that this happens even in situations that have nothing to do with social interactions, e.g. after I laugh a lot I'd be drenched in sweat, head to toe. Took 5 years to resolve and all doctors unanimously were telling me that it's a psychological issue and that I should just stop getting so nervous.Until one doctor decided to do an oncological screening on me and we found that I have a harmone-active benign tumor in one of my adrenal glands, and that the tumor was making my body produce too my cortisol (i.e. adrenaline hormone) and my body had a normal response to it in the form of excessive sweating. Also explained the laughing case because when you laugh your body produces adrenaline and then tames it naturally, which is why you feel both stressed and good after a good laugh. We got it removed (luckily it was possible to save the gland itself) and now I'm in perfect conditionLack of control over the medical codex among the doctors is insane. And this was true for both free healthcare (a country with free health insurance) as well as paid/private healthcare. Even made me take antidepressants at some point, which were obviously of no help but instead developed an allergy in my body. Fun time
>>71088074i just checked and it looks like i mistyped my entry from last week. it should have been 165kg and not 155 like i did. today is the lowest since i started participating and looks like i am too dumb to type in my weight correctly...
Fatty ContestDesertSnow73.3kgso close to being under 70kgs.. I can't believe it
>>71088266>people tell me antidepressants help>5 of them and counting>no worsening signs>no improvement signs>stop cold turkey, which I'm told is a bad idea>zero reaction in good or bad>"You should keep trying them anon"At least I'm ~15% bf now so family members no longer call me fat.
>>71088448Psychiatry industry is full of shit and they mostly sell placebo. They falsify study results that factually conclude things like "controlled placebo group 0.5% mood increase, controlled drug group 1.5% mood increase" and then advertise their drug as "you'll feel 3 times better" basically.If you struggle with depression and things like that, unironically get over yourself and practice spirituality. Take any religion of your liking and practice the spiritual aspect of it (discard the retarded fanatic shit like chanting and things like that). Master the ways of self-observation, learn that the bad emotions come from your brain and you don't have to give in to them, you can just analytically observe them and then decide to ignore them. Become self aware of your triggers and treat them cautiously. All of this will be 10x more effective than whatever "magic pill" (if one exists at all) that you seek or that is being pushed on you
Fucked up last night bros. Got drunk and ended up eating a colossal amount of crap when I got home. At least 3-4 days of dieting ruined and it'll probably fuck up my weigh in tomorrow. Should have known better
im trying to gain weight, 3 days in a row same weight in the morning, should i increase the calories
>>71088623I think you're in the wrong place. Although if it's anything like trying to lose weight then 3 days is too short a time frame. You need to wait at least a week sometimes even 2 to get a real read. That said if you're serious about gaining weight just dirty bulk
Fatty ContestZStonoga127.8kgGot food poisoning this week, so this is the bad type of weight loss
Fatty ContestFanegas98.2 kg
>>71088266This happened to my sister. She went 8 years going between doctors describing her symptoms and they all told her it was mental health shit. Had her on all kinds of anti depressants and the fact that she didn't get any better didn't seem to throw any red flags. My sister isn't stupid, she literally works in medical research and knew she needed to try something else. She spent a small fortune to go private and within 3 months she was correctly diagnosed with PoTS and given medication that finally fixed all her problems.I don't think it's a bad thing that mental health is more widely treated but it seems to be a complete crutch for incompetent doctors who just dgaf about actually doing their jobs. Whether that's an indictment of socialised healthcare or not I'll leave that up to debate.
Fatty ContestMuddy100 kgDidn't lose anything and my scales are fucking up. I'll probably buy a new one
>dieting and exercising for 2 months>only lost 3 poundsWtf
>>71088965Not tracking your calories properly. Simple as that
SW: 330lbs (4/10)CW: 268lbs (5/27)GW1: 260lbsSo close, next GW is 220. I'm fucking killing ittt
>>71088972I'm gonna have to stop drinking alcohol. Thats gonna be tough
>>71088992Yep there's your problem right there
Fatty ContestFishlard104.9kgI'm tired of being a fat fuck (again), see you next week
>>71089013>againsee you next year, also
>>71078986Damn u shud have told me 30 minutes ago before i gained 200 pounds
>>71082075I'm a sick chuck, I like the nun's duck
>>71088992>alcohol>1800-come-on-nowThe perfect foil. It fucks with your decision making, inhibitions, as well as your metabolic processes
you WILL NOT changeyou WILL NOT do anything after acknowledging your problemsyou WILL NOT follow up on or adjust your plansyou WILL NOT break the cycle by doing anything difficultyou WILL NOT shoulder the burdens of the world for onceyou WILL placate yourself with misery and pityyou WILL associate with people who feed into your self-pity and self-hatredyou WILL self-impose your limitationsyou WILL delude yourself
My goal weight is 77.7 kg
>>71078897We're all gonna make it carnibros. My BMI is almost <25 for the first time since I was a little kid. I've tried everything else and it never worked (even keto). I eat as much as I want, I don't count calories or macros or anything.Usually I just have burger patties because they're cheap (I can literally eat for like $5 a day on ground beef) sometimes with added butter if I feel like it, only salt/pepper for seasonings and I'm experimenting with tapering down on salt to see if I actually need it or not.About 28 days in, lost 15lbs.
>>71089580Glad to hear CICO is working for you like it does for literally everyone else
about to go and get a haircut. was really self conscious about it before because of my fat rolls on my neck back, but i've lost enough weight that they're gone now. it's the little things bros
>>71089589I probably consume about 2lbs of ground beef and a few tbsp of butter a day. That is at least ~2,600 cals. This does not explain the rapid weight loss (yeah water weight, whatever, but even 5lbs of fat loss shouldn't be possible on that many calories according to CICO normies). The calculators say my sedentary cal requirement is about 2,300 btw.
Fatty ContestBeefBrigade335.6lbsIt has been a hell of a week, been super disciplined, staying consistent and I'm starting to notice that I can do basic day to day shit without sweating at all (like walking to work) and I'm walking further than I was a month ago. Down about 55 pounds since I started in early April.No meme shit here. Just healthy eating and exercise.
>>71089668That's because 4 calories per gram of protein is what's considered before requiring the energy to metabolize the protein. I've read it takes anywhere from 0.5 - 1.5 calories per gram of protein, so the actual caloric amount you're receiving from protein is slightly diminished based on how efficient your body is at gluconeogenesis
>>71089668>my cal count is 100% accurate>my tdee estimate is actually 100% accurate>TEF isn't part of the CO in CICO>Lmao CICO normies Amazing how you can be so fat and so arrogant about nutrition at the same time
Another day, more meat.
>>71090648i just tried to sous vide a steak in the dishwasher, just for the memes. turned out okish.... better than my last few attempts. i need to get some proper equipment thank god it's the end of the month, meaning i will get paid soon.
did fattyjr sort out the contest? don't want to overwrite last week's entry
>>71091009Yeah, my entry for last week isn't in the current entries, so it's a new week.
Fatty ContestTiredOfBeingTired240.2Last week 239.2 I believe, so I gained a pound... I know why but it still hurts. It's all part of the process, WAGMI and at least I didn't gain 3 lbs like some weeks lol.
>>71090973Hope you get great equipment for a reasonable price, anon. Based steak in dishwasher.
>>71091091please respond >>71079933
>>71079933>>71091180Joint pain, soreness after working out, the horrors that are the side effects of hyperglycemia, eczema causing my skin to constantly weep blood and peel away, and general discomfort from profusely sweating and being extremely thirsty. These issues quickly fade by just maintaining this diet.
>>71091210Oh, and insatiable hunger. Can't forget that one. I can eat until full and still feel hungry, it's terrifying.
Fatty ContestGrayPlasticAddict194.7lbs"Forgot to post last week" edition.
>>71091223Nice progress brah
>>71091176thanks :) i have a list on amazon that i've been working on the last couple of days.
>>71091246ty. Goal is 175/170 by August.
>>71079355>He said im a "low-responder" to fitness trainingF
Fatty ContestJean Paul Slamdog 327Pretty good week overall. Handsome social events andcould have exercisedsome more discipline but I compensated with some more effort exercising. Good weigh in though.
>>71090648Ate approx.. 4.25 lbs of ground beef.
I’ve learned that it doesn’t matter how cool what you’re doing is, if you’re fat it isn’t cool.>oh I’m gonna record a video of myself at the shooting range or welding or xyz Always just some fat idiot doing something not done cool looking guy And that’s been a good motivator for me, pictures are fine but videos of yourself really show you the reality of it
>>71088987>62 lbs in one monthHoly fuck, what did you do? Tell me your secrets.
>>71091510Everything in life depends on people being lean. Have a beard? Looks better lean. Clean shaven? Looks better lean. Long hair? You better be lean. Baldmaxxing? If you're not lean you'll look like Butterbean.
>>71087983nice thanks for sharinganother nail in the coffin for CICO
Happy saturday,go workout NOW dont delay!ONE DAY AT A TIMEWAGMI
>>71091625what is this picture insinuating?
Hey, Im about 15 pounds overweight, planning on starting a ~500 calorie deficit today.I work as a security researcher and I feel like the ability to focus on a task and be sharp is an important part of my day to day life. So I was wondering if you guys feel like dieting and being in a calorie deficit impacts you're ability to focus/do you feel less productive while dieting.
>>71091790At a 500 calorie deficit you'll be fine. You might get a bit irritable eventually just because that's the nature of the game but as far as focus I doubt it'll be an issue.
>>71091632Nothing , she's giving you two options of orange caprisun
>>71085553based effort poster
Fatty Contestbobbyhill190.9 Ibs
>>71087754my penis literally got smaller when I got fat. this is bonepressed size so not affected by fat deposits. i hope when i lose 20-30kg it goes back to normal
>>71091895It didn't actually get smaller. Low test and bad circulation can cause it to look smaller. Both of those should improve once you get to healthy/lean bf%
>>71085553I appreciate the long post, read it fully and given it much pause.
>>71091918>Both of those should improve once you get to healthy/lean bf%thank you. wagmi
>>71081190would adderall/ritalin be viable? I actually need to shed muscles.
>>71092113Most amphetamine derivatives are well known for suppressing appetite and boosting metabolism slightly. Ephedrine is usually the preferred one in an ECA Stack but you can use Adderall too
Fatty Contestmanletdesu193.4 lb>fug
>>71085966We're talking normal food not drinking heavy cream.
>>71082607Don't go to PF anon, they literally tempt people away from achieving their goals so they keep paying for longer (pizza days, being judgemental pricks about bringing water and being healthy etc)
>eat a fuckload of vegetables, greens, etc>full for a brief time, hungry within 60-120 minss>eat a reasonable sized meal of carbs, protein, whatever>full for a little bit but usually craving again in 2 hours>only fat loss is through exercise, currently cant because of an injurywhat the fuck is the fix for this. its not just hungry, i get pissed off without eating and it distracts the fuck out of me while im trying to do my job and destroys my focus. i used to throw trash on the back of a garbage truck and eat something like 4000 calories a day while losing weight, but im in a much less physical factory job and im just always hungry. i must have fucked my brain and stomach when i ate like thatwhat the fuck do i do
I don't understand how I retarded I am sometimesBeen putting off working out for the past week (I have a home gym)I could have done it all days no problem but I always put it off due to laziness, tonight I went to have dinner with some friends and when I returned home I just decided to hop in. No sense of self guilt drove me, i didn't drink alcohol or anything like that - I just was in the mood for it?What the fuck I don't understand why can't it be like this every single day, especially when I'm supposed to do it
>>71092616You’re right about the other stuff but they don’t do pizza days, at least none of the ones I’ve been to. I keep a membership because it’s dirt cheap for what it offers, it’s not a great gym but it’s a gym and beats having nothing. Although I would be curious to see how much it would cost to setup a home gym if anyone knows, I don’t have the space for it right now.
I started doing yoga a month ago, and the results so far has been amazing.I was stiff as a board in the beginning. Every pose felt like my muscles and tendons would be pulled apart. Especially my hamstrings and hip flexors was tight as fuck.Now I'm starting to be able to bend in ways I never had thought possible for me.>>71092667You need some fat in your diet, friend. It really helps with satiety.
>>71092684keep a diary if this is a consistent problem retard. understand what motivates you by logging everything. how you feel and what you did prior. connect the dots and test your theories. absolving yourself of responsibility is easy, you feel vindicated if the universe really is unfair and you can't control your behavior to any meaningful extent. so stop.
would it be ok if i "cheat" on my diet with sushi?
>>71092984Try to stick to maintenance at most, and don't go overboard with the tempura.We all need a break once in a while.
>>71092984I always wonder why people ask these questions, do you not understand the "how" of what you're doing? you can do whatever the fuck you want as long as you're in a caloric deficit over a certain period of time. you wanna fit in a cheat day of sushi? ok, eat a maintenance (or slightly more) amount of calories of sushi and then stay at a caloric deficit the rest of the week. you won't lose as much as you would have with 7 days of caloric deficit, but you're still overall negative. or plan your cheat days in advance and allocate these calories in advance so you can still reach whatever weekly goal you have.what kind of answer are you expecting here?
>>71078897>This is not QTDDTOTwell, I can't find a QTDDTOT in the catalog so I'll just ask here if you guys know.Most sources I've found say 30 minutes of spinning burns about ~300 calories, but that's at around 8mph, I'm going at 18mph, though the bike itself says 250 cal. So what's accurate?
>>71078986oh shid i forgot
>>71093057i understand the "how" of what i am doing. i just forgot that this isn't the right place to ask this. >>71093029i dont do tempura. i just do nigiri and maki, maybe some california rolls but it's all salmon
>>71093082If i were you i would just assume that the lowest number is the correct one, so that you can feel more comfortable with your deficit
>>71093154But 250 cal is so little, and I never feel 100% sure on my calorie intake, so I'd rather be sure I'm on a deficit by exercising.
>>71087983very believable anon
>>71087983>i was violating the laws of physics and shieeet until i took a pill!
>>71081095lmao, Novo Nordisk funded a study on what happens to people when the stop taking semaglutide and ALL of them gained at last 70% back after stopping taking it. And your post is the best example on why fat people won't lose weight longterm with Ozempic. As soon as you stop taking it you are back to your old habits and gain all the weight back.
>>71093277kekfat niggas always want us to believe they were 100% on point with diet vs tdee and I just couldnt lose weight! Like bro if you know what you were doing you wouldn't be a fat nigga,, relax
>>71078897Why do all of these calculators have my cutting calories at 2600+ (34/M/270 lbs) but if I eat 2600 or more, I only put on weight? 2600 is usually where I do maintenance and now I'm at 2100 cals daily. Been cutting for 1.5 months and lost ~5 lbs total.
I dunno what all these meds and shit you're talking about, but when I was a depressed teen, I got prescribed Duloxetine which caused me to balloon like a fat cunt, the doctor told me it binds water in your body or something so you retain more water weight. Literally nothing changed in my diet, I was just suddenly fatter. So meds can definitely fuck with you.
>>71093312It is because the TDEE calculators don't take body % percentage into consideration. I just know you didn't bother to estimate your bodyfat like it states in the OP and didn't look for the Katch-McArdle formula
Shawarma slop is my fucking kryptonite. I legit crave this stuff like it's crack.
>>71093277oh no no no no no
>>71093394show the other stats you used, your results are unusually high
>>71078897I think I've gotten to the bottom of my problem, which is just that I have way too many opportunities to eat tasty treats throughout the day and I could probably just do some stupid-simple behavior reprogramming to (a) not think about snacking, (b) not put the food in my mouth, or (c) stop immediately as soon as I realize I'm snacking. Does anyone know any techniques for this kind of behavior reprogramming?
>>71093472>Does anyone know any techniques for this kind of behavior reprogramming?Not specifically about this, but I've succeeded with "self-induced cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT)" before. What worked for me is just that as soon as the thought enters your head, you have to try your hardest to distract yourself and think about or focus on something else. It's gonna be hard in the beginning, but after a while, it just starts working automatically.
>>71093457I'm -85 from my covid height. But I've stalled.Lifting 3x a week. walking 8-10k steps daily.
>>71093277>violating the laws of physicsRead more about said laws of physics and which exact processes determine whether the incoming carbs will be stored as glycose, stored as fat or disposed in stool. It's all in the books.
>uhh bro it's just cico trust my broscience bro
>>71092667You could:- Increase the amount of protein (more satiety, less urge to eat again soon)- Lower total carbohydrates (not as satiating weight for weight as the protein, digest faster so hungrier sooner)- Get more complex starchy carbohydrates (lower GI/GL and fibre will be more satiating)- Add good fats (satiating and also aid absorption of nutrients)- If you eat salads as your greens, think about vinegar (has a strange effect on hormone response, a little dose makes a lot of people less hungry over a longer period. A tablespoon of olive oil, 1.5 teaspoons of red/white/balsamic/apple cider vinegar, dijon/seed mustard (optional) and some salt and pepper makes an excellent dressing for a bag of salad greens)Additionally:Consider if you're thirsty. You can often mistake thirst for hunger. Big drink of water when you're feeling it come on. If the factory floor allows for it get one of those big 2L bottles or gallon bottles and just have that on hand to sip.Have a think about green tea/black coffee if the time of day is appropriate and you don't react poorly to it. Some mild appetite suppressing effects.And hate to say it but also power through it. Hunger comes but goes again just as quick and you can get better at just letting yourself be hungry for 30 minutes and then it's gone again.>>71092113>I actually need to shed muscles???Anyway yeah the common ADHD meds work as a substitute. I think ephedrine in the dosages you'd be looking for is banned from retail almost everywhere anyway. Addies and Ritties become the next most realistic option.>>71092841Adjustable dumbbells and a kettlebell or two are a couple of hundred dollar investment as a start. Racks and bars maybe in the higher triple figures. But I've been seeing more of all this stuff pop up on classifieds as people give up on their home gym post-rona. Bargains to be had.>>71092984Try some straight up sashimi, no rice. Get a little seaweed salad too. It's yummy.
>>71093624Yes, unless you have beetus, like your pic says.
>>71093642>4 if there's excess glucose due to an underlying process it gets converted to fat>uhh this metasomething drug you're taking actually makes you lose weight because of pure cico broIt's the retards like you who are completely clueless about these 4 simple bullet points is why I wasted close to half a year with no resultsAll cico bro just uhhh you became fat because uhhh you're actually perfectly healthy bro don't even worry about it follow pure cico like a proper healthy human being bro
>>71093666If you're the same guy who posted earlier, you said it yourself, it's a pre-beetus condition. So it all just comes back to that.
>>71091223>27 kgAyy you're doing great! Don't give in. You are gonna make it.
>>71093642Don't respond to these le trollin' retards.
>>71087374isn't the feeling of your trousers getting looser great?
>>71093624>>71093642>>71093666>>71093683I'm neither of you but consider that a lot of the population are in a shit hormonal balance, including their insulin, and it doesn't get picked up until they go to the doctor for something else that's bothering them and the bloodwork comes back with a red flag in it. And that's if the doctor even sends them off for the right tests - fasting blood glucose can look fine but what about their glucose tolerance or their HbA1c? I'd wager loads of people are diabetic or "pre-diabetic" which is just the same underlying problem as type 2 except it doesn't need insulin injections to conventionally manage (yet). Everyone trying to manage their weight seriously will need to attenuate their insulin in some way.
it is so hard to not eat foodi want to outwork my diet so bad but people keep telling me it's impossiblei just wanna eat
>>71078897obviously a generic question, but is there any point in me going to the gym/working out/cardio while in a sizeable caloric deficit? I'm consistently losing weight atm, but would like to gain muscle/etc (i'm not focusing too hard on the number on the scale, more interested in how I look in the mirror each morning)in a vacuum obviously it's great b/c it's extra calories lost + general benefits of working out, but I get hungry/find it harder to maintain a caloric deficit after a strenuous work out. I haven't done the math but I imagine there's a chance i eat back any calories I'd burn after working out.ideally, I'd love to gain some muscle/definition while losing weight but that might be asking too much. any advice or guidance?
>>71093869You should do cardio, preferably low intensity, as it's just a good way to add some extra calories burned each day. If you go for an hour walk at a good pace for a week you'll burn an extra 1400-2100 calories for not much effort.For lifting it's true to say that you won't gain much muscle if any when in a deficit even mild ones like 500 calories. You do want to keep lifting though for a few reasons. First is that it's extra calories burned, although not as much as the cardio. Second is that you'll generate an afterburn effect which makes your cardio even more effective so its synergistic. Most importantly though lifting will help maintain what muscle mass you do have. Pretty much every study done shows that maintaining regular lifting at a decent intensity whilst eating more protein prevents muscle atrophy in even lean subjects with massive calorie deficits.So the takeaway is keep lifting but if you're running a 6 day split and aiming for hypertrophy then maybe tweak your training a little. Drop the volume, keep the intensity and move to X3/4 a week for the extra recovery.With all that being said your number one goal when cutting is to maintain your deficit. If absolutely any exercise jeopardizes that then you should stop. Losing fat is 80% diet.
>>71093869If it makes following your diet harder then it's not worth it.You should maybe work out why it makes you hungrier. Most likely your glucose levels drop quite a lot which often happens in fat people trying to exerciseIf that's the case you can get away with a few glucose tabs (should be sub 20kcal) to fix the post-workout hunger
>>71084037>hot sauceswhich ones? I tend to follow rabbinic wisdom as far as hot sauces are concerned so I'm a frank's/valentina man most of the time, but I like mayan yucateco and nando's as well
>>71093627Not the hungryanon, but thanks for the write up fren
>>71092975>you feel vindicated if the universe really is unfair and you can't control your behavior to any meaningful extent.That sounds like projecting. It's not really that I can't self control myself, it's mostly that over the years due to my depression + personality type I have associated the "stress relief" with "bending the rules" and since I'm living alone I really have no one that holds me accountable for my procrastinationDon't think keeping a diary will help, as that sounds like something I could procrastinate on as well - I discovered that, like many, my source of "not doing things" mostly comes from overcomplicating the task at hand and a lack of discipline that hasn't been forged in me since I was a child.What I find curious however is how today, randomly, for no fucking reason I decided to work out - while having dinner at that - I was supposed to do it this morning but overslept instead, and the last thing I expected to do tonight was to do so, in fact I fully expected to just "skip over" tonight as well but I didn't - it's completely out of character and it almost feels like I was possessed by someone else - so that's why I am curious about it.
>>71093858I have the opposite problem.I'm so disgusted with myself for letting things get to this point that I struggle to even meet my calorie requirement for a 1000+ kcal deficit. I just don't want to eat.Though it's also possible I'm miscalculating my calories. For breakfast I had scrambled eggs with turkey breast and for my later meal I had 8oz chicken breast and some broccoli + mushrooms. Cronometer says that's about 800kcal anymore and I have no idea whether that number is higher or lower than it really should be. But I do know I need ~200 calories more and more protein today and I'm just not hungry.
>>71094355not sure a thread of fat dudes on 4 chins is the place to try and work out your mental therapy. You know the solution is to just fucking do the work, regardless of 'motivation' , so we can't help you
>>71094456We can all sit here and pretend we're some perfect sigma dudes but the reality is that we all are / have been fucking fatasses for a reasonSo in case someone else is struggling getting some more info would be beneficial
>>71093398You can get the meat without all the toppings
Fatty ContestRaynman108.8Was good with my diet most this week but had a going away party for a mate. Ate at maintenace yesterday and will fast again today How’re you going Endless?
I'd like every anon in this thread to consider that a component of their difficulty with eating too much is a result of our modern diets being devoid of fiber.Due to unique medical status at the moment (not drugs), my digestion is significantly slowed. The result is my natural appetite overall has been much lower and actually matches how much I should be eating, when normally food goes through pretty quick and I *can* eat all the time if I want the food. I suspect fiber can play the same role in the future for me of slowing digestion and bringing my appetite closer to how it actually should be, and this makes sense to me because up until recently most people would be getting a lot more fiber in their diets than we are now. If that normal amount of fiber was a component of a healthy appetite all along, itd make sense that us low-fiber people in 2023 have outsized appetites.
>>71094503my dude what in the literal fuck can we tell someone who says "bro im just not motivated"I am all ears
Fatty contestRaynman108.8kgFucking forgot it defaults to lbs
>>71094600I’d unironically tell them to go to therapy if you ever have something you want to fix about yourself but you don’t know how to get started. I went for social anxiety and while I’m not yet at the point where I’d consider myself close to fixed, I was able to give a best man speech and mingle with the guests. Therapy gives you a lot of tools to get started working on yourself, only so long as you pick the right therapist (I recommend CBT or EMDR as that’s what helped me). You still gotta put in the work but its nice to have an outside perspective on the kind of work you put in.
>>71094503>the reality is that we all are / have been fucking fatasses for a reasonYou simply don't hate yourself enough for it. Never let yourself forget you're a fatass, constantly remind yourself that your body fat % is over what a healthy human male should have, know for a fact everyone would like you a bit more automatically just if you weren't so fucking fat. It becomes easy to make yourself suffer (boring diets, working out) when you hate yourself.
What's the best way to fix being skinnyfat/slightly fat? Around 88kg with little muscle, try to bulk it up first to build up muscle while lifting weights or go straight to cutting and lift?
>>71093517you need to put it on sedentary, the calories burner from exercising are greatly overestimatedas it says in the OP:>and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high2100 kcal is too high imo, TDEE at normal weight is around 1900kcal, I would eat around 1600-1800
>>71094691Hating yourself not only is a double edged sword in the long run, but it also stops working pretty fast.As a matter of fact, it creates this "rollercoaster" effect where you are fueled and motivated to "better yourself" only in those moments where you are reminded why you should hate your current self (personal example is when I went to social gatherings and I see mad puss but well aware that they would never have sex with me because of how I look) - when you aren't subjected by it anymore (say you go home and have a wank) all your self hatred and motivation goes away, you go back to your nasty habit until your next "hate trigger" then rinse repeat.Trust me, it ain't consistent.
Just finished lifting
Fatty ContestEndless109.5kgOk week, haven't been super strict in tracking cals lately but have been counting long enough now that I sort of intuitively know how much I can eat each day. Still happy enough with how things are tracking.
>>71094805Nice one bro, just about to head to the gym too then do my weekly shop. Hope they have got some more cottage cheese in, they were all sold out last week.
>>71094618Nice one bro.
>>71094287Don’t know, my sister brought them on her vacation in mexico and I don’t understand spanish They don’t look like a proper brand so I guess you won’t find them on amazonUsually I use sambal olek (chilie paste), salsa and tabasco
Fatty ContestChomper260 lbs
>>71093507Thanks for the advice
>>71094542Good stuff man. I went out for some pizza last night but just had a few slices so ok result for the week considering. Feeling a little more sociable is one of the unexpected benefits of weightloss so i have been taking people up on their offers when they occasionally arise as long as I think I can fit it into my diet without too much damage. I feel like im about 1 week behind you currently, but we're going to make it.
I ate close to maintenence today and I'm 3 pounds heavier than when I woke up. Do I dare go out and buy sugar free haribo gummies to help clean out my insides for my contest entry tomorrow.
>>71094931Hell yea man, yea I caught up with an old mate on Wednesday and had salmon pasta and 2 beers. I fasted Thursday to and will today. I like fasting twice a week to give me the flexibility on my diet on Friday/Saturday if I wanna have a few drinks if mates invite me out. It’s a win/win; either I stay the course and have fun, or I have a little faster progress. You’re doing awesome man! I’m using your history as motivation. WAGMI mate
>>71094851Thanks mate <3
>>71094491Is that your rabbit?
>>71094542ate at a deficit and worked out sun-wed. Thursday had 500ml of vodka. Friday had 500ml of vodka+12 beers. Today had 11 beers, got another 12 pack, probably gonna have 23 beers. Gonna do sun-thu at a deficit+working out. I have a mickey of whiskey on the kitchen table, probably gonna save it for next week. Probably. Mind you, still under/at maintenance. I just need to figure out how to stop the rogue 4AM tbsps of peanut butter. It's hard because I'm basically not awake when they happen>don't buy pbI don't, my roommate does
>>71095091STOP DRINKING BEER. Drink exclusively spirits or dry wines, beer is tons of carbs
I felt full before finishing my lunch so I stopped eating and saved the rest for dinner
>>71095114Teach me your ways. I find it really really difficult to stop when I get going so at home I just always serve myself what I need. But when eating out it would be nice to have this skill.
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>>71095101sleeman clear has 2g of carbs per can. You could get absolutely plastered on the stuff and your diet would still be low carb. You could argue it tastes like dirty water and you wouldn't be wrong, but the ad man and I agree that with the weirdly high carbonation, it has that crisp, bubbly light lager taste that you and your cool attractive friends crave for those fun social summer activities. With pickup trucks and bikinis