>>71075886
ywnbaw

A big number of Gymgoers will never look good because they refuse to get lean

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too much porn

>>71075886
cardio > strength

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You can build an aesthetic body with machines only. Free weights are NOT a must.

The big four are overrated as fuck.

>>71075886
90% of people in the gym training aesthetics shouldn't bother. Aesthetics is genetics and genetics alone. Leave us gods to work in peace.

>>71075896
>A big number of Gymgoers will never look good because they refuse to get lean

This is why noob lifters who are usually around 18 and 20 body fat percent should CUT and NOT BULK when they start working out

Bulking (stuffing your face with shit) is a meme

>>71075886
Lifting is essentially pointless. The second you stop going to the gym you're body regulates itself to a fat blob, therefore you have to consistently spend time in your day exercising.
It's a huge time sink and the bigger and stronger you get, the more time you have to sink into it.

Lift to achieve something that is naturally sustainable without having to go to the gym everyday, or every week. Because God forbid you can't work out for 1 week, your body will revert back to dyel anyway.

>>71075938
>1 week no training
>loses all his gains

Get your t checked. You shouldn't lose any strength not training for 7x days lol

>>71075938
>t.Doesn't lift

>>71075938
>Because God forbid you can't work out for 1 week, your body will revert back to dyel anyway.

This is far from true
You can keep your current gains for several months with proper diet

>>71075894
>ywnbaw
Op said controversial opinions

I don't lift.

The only thing that matters is training every muscle group to failure and eating enough while avoiding junk.
Everything else is broscience, memes and useless pedantry that you only need to worry about if you're pushing yourself to extremes (in which case you're better focusing on using PEDs right cause diminishing returns will rob you of your way to live if you don't hop on gear sooner or later) or can't make decent gains without it (in which case lifting might not be for you).

Don't get me wrong, mobility, flexibility, agility, cardio etc. are all very important meaningful pursuits, I'm talking about all the stuff around the issue of how to get bigger.

>>71075963

*will to live

>>71075959
ywnbaw

It can take months to properly learn an exercise and I don’t mean mind muscle connection. Also some exercises are locked behind a learning curve and can only be unlocked by properly learning other exercises.

>>71075938
complete dyel cope,my father hasnt lifted seriously for over 5 years and not at all for the last 2 years and he still has bulgier forearms than mine. if you meant definition,then yes being completely sedementary will affect your definition somewhat,but muscles dont just shrink and waste away in the way you're suggesting. unless if you just one day decide to lay down in bed for the rest of your life and do nothing,of course your muscles will atrophy overtime since the body has no need for them anymore.

>>71075886
balding is not a fitness topic and people posting about MPD should be warned and then banned until the threads stop
i don't give a shit about what women wear to the gym

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Leanness is more important than muscle size

>>71075886
Actual proper recovery is around 12 hours of sleep.

>>71075886
Counting protein is pointless.

Lifting should be mandatory, and PE should be harsher.

I really regret not ever training flexibility when I was younger. 28 now and my legs and hips are so fucking tight all the time from being a desk cuck

Squats fucking suck

>>71076014
I agree and I would extend this to the population for all ages as mandatory civil service. America needs this, but these fat pigs and sugar corps would never agree to it. If I was president, it would be one of the first executive orders after I nationalize energy and the internet.

>>71075914
x2

>>71075886
Sugar is good for you as long as it's not combined with fat.

>>71075886
There should be a government mandatory fitness test implemented to all citizens annually. If you cannot squat/bench/ dead your bodyweight +10% for 10 reps minimum you should be sent to a "fitness re-education camp". In this camp you will be fed slop that fits your macros and train 7x days a week. If, after 10 weeks of the course, you can still not perform the original task, you should be euthanized on site.

Too many weak people on this plannet, we need a mao fashioned cull and start again.

>>71075977
Very fair

>>71075886
Femboys >>> fatties
trans women >>> real women
lolis >>> all

Resting is overrated and gets in the way of building routine. Vary your exercises a bit, have one day a week where you take it easy and don't push any muscles to exhaustion, but otherwise train every day.

>YWNBAW
>r9k incels ruined /fit/ with lookism, mogging, and demoralizing threads
>YWNBAW
>Gym boomers have good advice
>If you lift for anyone or anything but yourself, ngmi
>If you're on any kind of meme diet (vegan, keto, paleo, etc - ngmi
>SS is fine for beginners. You're supposed to progress to an intermediate program after a few months, and the diet advice is meant for hungry skeletons who think they are hardgainers - not normal guys who don't have a problem eating.

>>71075896
>>71075935
Agreed, bulking is a meme
You're better off in the long run maintaining a healthy diet and lifestyle that is more sustainable and compatible with working, having a social life, relationships, hobbies, and the occasional fun overindulgence of good food, drugs, alcohol, or all at the same time
Unless you plan on making a living with fitness, but if that's the case you're probably better off getting on gear cause every other dishonest person making money in the industry is

>>71075886
New lifters should be given a basic bro split and told to chase the pump each workout, eat protein, and sleep 8 hours

>>71075886
Training intensity is way more important than having a perfect or even good program. Not every jacked or strong guy I've met knows a lot about kinesiology, nutrition or biology, but every jacked and strong guy I've met pushed himself hard in the gym. Arguing about routines on /fit/ gets mogged hard by training to failure 4 days a week.

>>71076098
A gay pedo faggot. Who woulda thunk it.

>>71075886
Oral only cycles are highly effective and create long lasting gains.

>>71076389
I’ve tried to explain this to many friends who I’ve helped train and they just don’t get it. Some people just don’t have the intensity in them, I blame estrogenic plastics and Jews.

Bulgarian Split Squats > all other squats

>>71076389
Training 3 days per week mogs 4 days imho
>t. 3 days a week enjoyer

>>71075938
Factually wrong

>>71076020
Google Tom Merrick. He has some good routines.

There is no reason to do heavy squats deadlifts or bench, they're dangerous and can easily be replaced by other activities

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>>71075989
>my faces when

>>71076779
kek
>>71075989
You illiterate cunt

>>71075894
Controversial opinions, not truth

>>71075886
There's too much porn on this site, and majority of posters here are porn addicts in denial.

>>71076696
I agree with the squat. I prefer lighter for volume. Benching and Deadlifts are fun tho.

Everyone should be taking steroids

>cardio is the most important exercise
>heavy squats/deadlifts are moronic for the average lifter ((you))
>calisthenics should be treated as a canary, if you cant do good pullups/dips anymore you are not fit
>roiders should be publicly ridiculed

>>71076947
I’m from /pw/. The overwhelmingly shorter average lifespan of wrestlers due to steroids has forever scared me off of them.

>>71076953
Just stick with testosterone e and dianabol.

>>71076951
>heavy lifts are moronic

I think if nothing else, they can keep one motivated and focused. The sense of achievement that feeds back into the motivation loop when you add 10 pounds to the bar is miles ahead of being able to hit a DB Curl for a few extra reps.

Eating carbs is as bad as eating fat. If you are already fat you only need protein.

>>71076957
What if I got strongarmed (wife lost her job and we needed the insurance for an expensive surgery so she could walk again) into the taking the (((vaxx)))? I’ve seen anecdotal correlation between vax plus steroids being a real bad combination? Is that just red deer summer shit?

>>71076982
Idk. A cycle or 2 won't hurt. The cunts that have heart attacks are the ones running heavy cycles.

Testosterone is bioavailable orally without side effects
Intensity uber alles
The stretch at the bottom really matters and reps of most lifts should be paused there
I agree with
>>71075896
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Carbs and sneed oils are good for you. IN MODERATION OF COURSE!

>>71076922
in denial?

>>71075886
>obsessing over protein is unnecessary
>fat and oils are empty calories
>gym culture is harmful for public health because it replaced track&field culture and lulls people into believing doing 30min lifting 3 time a week is enough to negate caloric excess
>keto scam is the primary culprit of obesity epidemic by misleading people trying to lose weight into believing fat is not fattening
>women look at highly trained bodybuilders with disgust (this is not my opinion, I got it from every women I've ever talked with)
>leanness is preferential to buffness in both scoring chicks and every single physical activity that happens outside gym with sole exception of trying to lift washing machine on your own

>>71075886
The soulless Nordic stare

>>71076953
Same. What also scares the fuck out of me is that wrestlers die often because of head injuries and abuse of painkillers.

>>71075938
Absolute cope. I took extended 1-2 week lifting breaks due to sickness and my strength and size was back after 2-3 training sessions

>>71075886
fuck you jack kline

>>71077051
Best rule of thump is to stick to low gi carb sources when possible. High gi fruits are good before and after your workout. Only oils you should be ingesting is evoo and coconut oil.

>>71075886
Big lift numbers means nothing in real life.
Nobody cares if you're a baldlet in real life.

>>71075886
You don’t need DOMS to grow muscle

>>71076966
can agree on that, but it doesnt solve the problem that youre going to hurt yourself if you push too far/too far for too long

If you have to workout at a gym you're NGMI. It's only good for going for PURE size and strength, AKA powerlifters that COMPETE. For anything else, seek to live a life where your work is your workout. As humans had it for over a million years. Farmers that were out there hauling bags of dirt, pulling out and harvesting crops, carrying heavy tools. Builders lifting heavy supplies and creating things.
I'm not saying you need to have one of these jobs or even one similar to it. But you need to be gaining strength from your day to day life. That's how you get a great looking body, and maximum functional strength. You'll look the best, because surprise surprise, humans instinctually like the look of someone putting in hard work. You'll feel the best because you'll have something to put your increasing strength toward.
The gym is not hard work. Hate to break it to you, but doing repetitive motions or using machines in a climate controlled building is not hard work. And when that's the hardest work you've done in your life, people can tell.
If your job is sedentary, get one where you can be out and about. There are plenty, in demand, yes, good paying ones. Don't be a golem, live a fulfilling and natural life. If you truly can't (you can) then you must find a way to integrate some rewarding, hard work into your daily life. Start a garden. It'll get you outdoors, learning shit, and hopefully carrying some heavy shit. Don't buy any garden gadgets that try to make it easy, do everything yourself.

>>71075886
If you do not enjoy lifting it isn't worth doing.
Everyone should get some sort of exercise regardless, however.

>>71075886
>Post your most controversial Fitness opinions
The best type of non-resistance training be it HIIT or LISS is jump rope. You don't need anything else. Just jump rope.

>>71075922
Faggot. I bet this loser looks terrible and a closet homo

If the you don't compete or have a career in fitness, doing steroids is peak retardation.

>>71075886
What film is he from?

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Row > pull down > pull up for back development.

You dont need 1/2/3/4 for a good looking body. You dont even need to train the big 4 exercises at all.

Frank Zane would look even better if he trained his traps.

Mature women (over 40 years old) >>> 20 years old girls for pure sexual pleasure.

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>>71075886
You don't need PEDs to be 250lb with 10-15% bf
pic somewhat related. I don't remember his weigth and bf here

>>71076195
agree with everything except the
>gym boomers have good advice
They usually have no fucking clue what they're talking about, like 90% of the time.

>>71078064
>post a pic of a 0.000001% genetics bodybuilder with myostatin deficiency
>that is renown for not being smart and bullshitting a lot, so he probably wasn't even natty there

>>71076098
>true
>false
>would kill you irl if i could

>>71078238
>not being smart
he graduated with honors in accounting

>>71075914
Seconded.

>best upper body exercises are weighted dips/chin-ups
>best rep/set scheme is 3x3 when using heavy weights and are lifting everyday.
>ideal minimalist home gym would be a pull-up/dip bar and kettlebells (16kg, 24kg, 32kg).

>>71075886
women are biologically inferior when it comes to exercising. And I don't mean anything like strength or vo2 max or anything numbers. I mean they generally have far less proclivity for it. My gf will either overtrain or not nearly train hard enough and then act all jelly about my gains. But she will not just do what I do, or properly calibrate her intensity. I think most women are just incapable of measuring their own effort.

Every adult male should be on gear.

Testosterone levels have dropped precipitously since the industrial revolution, so supplementing is the only way to turn this society of weak men around.

Testosterone is a vaccine for leftism, and we should force it on all men.

>>71075938
Law of diminishing returns apply to pretty much eveything in life.

[spoiler]One week of not training doesn't do shit, probably helps you to get more gains actually[/spoiler]

>>71078607
speak for yourself, you genetic dead end

>>71075938
That's not how it works, you dumbass. Maintenance is actually really fucking easy. It's the bulking that is difficult

If women wearing skimpy clothes at the gym makes you seethe, you're an insecure incel. Just enjoy the eye candy and work out.

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>you don't need to squat/DL/bench to get big
>doing squat/DL is not enough for abs
>you don't lose muscle mass when cutting unless you've been starving for 2+ weeks
>you can get big doing basic weighted calisthenics (dips, pullups, leg raises and their variations)
>cardio is as important as lifting
>having visible abs is more important than being "strong" at 20%+ bodyfat in 99% of cases

>>71077939
Elaborate on that last one?

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>>71075938
I will die one day. I press on.

>>71075938
I agree with you to a point. One week is rest is mandatory after 2-3 months of training

>>71077873
>What film is he from?
The Boys

>>71077030
Post body

>>71077093
>>keto scam is the primary culprit of obesity epidemic by misleading people trying to lose weight into believing fat is not fattening
bait or legit retardation

>>71078784
40+ years old women just want sex more and care less about other things and have less insecure than young women.

The best women to have sex with are those mature women that take care of their health and body.

Not controversial,

Most people go through the motions but don't really want to put the work in to actually 'make it' physique wise

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We need to crack down on and completely eradicate steroids from the population.
Doing this will bring everyone who roids down to a reasonable level and you will see people actually try to workout knowing they are realistically 1/2-1 year away from what society sees as "buff" or "fit"

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Big, muscular legs are literally, and I mean literally, useless

>>71075886
BMI is a great metric.

Being in the normal BMI range is enough to get a gf

>>71075886
lifting full body 5x a week with 3x strength and 2x bodybuilding is the fastest and most consistent way to real gains in strength and physique

>>71079366
This is true but you should add *for newbies under the age of 35

Doing anything other than full body 3 times a week as a natty is cope and useless. If you struggle with it, you just lack work capacity and should focus on that. The entire workout should last between 60 and 90 minutes.

>>71075886
everyone involved in fitness is an annoying cringe retard and im embarrassed being associated with all of you

>>71075886
its ok to be fat and strong
i dont care about abs

>>71075886
Kettlebell swings are far better if you add a bit of squat down and explode up and snap your hips in and do them heavy. They go from being a boring scrawny persons movement to being very useful. Doing little 30 pound ones in quick little snaps are useless.

>>71076450
this isn't controversial
any unilateral movement with crazy rom is super to other varieties

>>71079374
wtf are you talking about newbies don't have fast enough regeneration for 5x a week
you start with 3x a week, then 4x, then 5x and if you're on roids you can progress to 5x a week 2x a day

>>71079407
if you slowdown youtube videos of people doing heavy swings they all do this, they don't realize they're doing it though, they think they're doing pure hinge. i think thats why so many people fuck up swing form, they're being told bullshit

>>71077531
What do you do for a living?

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I don't think cutting is necessary if you haven't done cardio consistently and with effort. If you work out 6 days a week and run every day but still don't look how you want to look after a year then yeah, put the fork down I suppose.

I feel a little sorry for food addicted fat people. You can't just cut food out like you can with any other addiction.
The temptation is always there

>>71075886
most are ngmi

>>71075896
/This

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You probably have a much higher bf% than you think.
Even if you have a six pack.

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>>71076422
>Jews
Dubs of truth.

>>71080698
/This
Most people are delusional about their body fat

>>71078607
Not so good if you want to have kids though.

>>71080739
im down to 85kg at 187cm and in the mornings i have visible abs but i train legs a lot and now the touch each other and i get thingy idk what it's called
gotta cut even more for thigh gap i guess or is this normal for trained males

roiders have mindfucked everyone into thinking volume is king. When you bring up HIT they say a roider came up with the program. It's completely backwards. Intensity is king and most are dyel because most don't train to failure

>>71075886
Powerlifting movements are overrated for hyperthrophy.

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>>71075886
Consistent exercise is one of the easiest changes you can make in your life to be closer with God. A healthy mind cannot reside in an unhealthy body, a healthy soul cannot reside in an unhealthy vessel, and a healthy connection to God cannot exist with an unhealthy soul. Exercise helps to improve that entire chain from the bottom up.

>>71075886
The best cure for the obesity problem is a course of cardarine and ostarine. I struggled with constant fatigue and struggled to progress past 65kg on bench for 5. It changed me inside or unlocked what ever I needed

No one needs a fridge.

>>71075886
Deadlifts are safe and effective for hypertrophy

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>>71075938
>Lifting is essentially pointless. The second you stop going to the gym you're body regulates itself to a fat blob
INCEL DEMORALIZERS GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD REEEEEEEEEee

>>71075938
why would you ever stop going to the gym

>>71076010

This should be rooted out more openly because Most people just see the 1g per lb of bodyweight...

but that likely isn't necessary for most people trying to be fit

>>71075886
Showing up at the gym constantly for a few years will make you fit enough to get most health and social benefits from being fit, everything that is discussed just deals with unimportant minutiae

>>71075938
I stopped working out for almost a years because of covid and it took me a couple month to get all my gains back

>>71075886
Barbell compound movements are extremely beneficial and give a great bang for your buck training wise

However, they are not necessary to build a great physique if you don’t wanna do those movements

>>71077531
>if you have to workout at a gym your NGMI
based on what retard
>It's only good for going for PURE size and strength
you can train for almost anything at the gym retard
>work is your workout
enjoy grinding yourself to the nub and picking lots of fun injuries along the way retard
>farmers were carrying heavy bags of dirt
45lb is not heavy retard
>i'm not saying you need to have one of these jobs
that's weird cuz you just said that
>you need to be gaining strength for your day to day life
I agree that being active is a must for a good life
>that's how you get a great looking body
tell that to my relatives who are farmers and look like shit despite working with their hands 4am to noon daily, wrong again retard its your diet that makes you look good
>doing repetitive motion in a gym is not hard work
machines are pretty pussy tier but lets see you do sets of 20 on squats
>when that's the hardest work you've done in your life people can tell
That makes no fucking sense, people don't just know who you are because you're in a gym lifting weights
>if your job is sedentary, get one where you can be out and about
nah i think ill keep my WFH sedentary job and then work on my house/property and workout in my free time
>get outdoors
true that but your appeal to muh tradie work is a big fat pile of bullshit
t. former commercial painter, window washer and roofer who is now an engineer who does cycling, hiking, swimming and bodybuilding

The only food you are supposed to eat is the one in Genesis 1:29.
>Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
Everything that is allowed after the fall is preventing you from developing spiritually.

>>71081414
Wow so all I have to do is step foot in the gym and get on the treadmill do a brisk 15 minute walk and leave and I can be as fit and healthy as the people who spend 2-3 hours in the gym doing heavy weight training, plyometrics and intense cardio? Fucking retard

Some weight loss opinions from /fast/ing resident:

There is no rapid weight loss without some (10%-40%) lean body mass loss. You just don't notice it and strength loss doesn't correspond 1:1 with muscle mass loss.
Fatty that can do a 5km walk is actually quite muscular, but he will lose the lot of that muscle when he loses the fat.
Obesity is mostly caused by high availability of extremely palatable foods
It is possible to fast long periods without any electrolyte supplements, people have clearly done this. But if you sweat a lot or start getting cramps or other symptoms you should supplement. You can also supplement just in case.
Eating often times makes you feel more hungry than you were before you started eating
Fasting makes you less hungry, and this is really the only reason fasting is preferable to other ways of doing calorie restriction

>>71075935
I'm so confused tho, what if i am underweight shouldn't i bulk? Or should I just focus on eating protein to keep up with muscle growth?

The barbell variants of all upper-body lifts are inferior to their dumbbell counterparts. No exceptions.

>>71080698
breast envy is the brest.

>>71081577
Don't be so fucking litteral

>>71081578
Agreed anon. What timeframe you using to define rapid for the first point? You talking 1 week or months?

>>71077939
you should be doing rows for rear delts and pull ups for lats retard

>>71075886
I believe in progressive overload, but I don't believe in supercompensation. I think the body just has a set point of muscle synthesis, that you can raise little by little if you keep lifting, and fiber damage plays no role in it. That's why it's so quick to get back in shape after a hiatus. If it was just a matter of supercompensation, you'd have to start over from scratch.

>>71075886
Planet Fitness isn't even that bad if you're willing to shake the bar-only mentality and use dumbbells.
I hate machines btw.

>>71075938
The seethe this post made is priceless. I'm sure all of these guys injured themselves or had to take a break and never were as strong as they were pre injury/ break

>>71078607
Fucking lmao let’s do it mate

>>71075886
Too much muscles is gross
When I first saw Arnold, I was disgusted as fuck

>>71075894
not fitness

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>>71075886
This is the exact expression I make all the time. I don't know how to keep the crazy out of my eyes

>>71075904
how is that an opinion let alone a fitness one

>>71075938
Retard. You barely lose visible gains abstaining even 3 months from training.

>>71076098
kill yourself.

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>>71081615
You need to be eating at a surplus to gain weight and build muscle, and you need to be eating enough protein. Your body cannot generate muscle from nothing. I don't know where this idea that bulking means stuffing your face with ice cream and pizza came from, but it's become increasingly prevalent amongst young, inexperienced lifters who seem to think eating more is going to make them fat overnight. You don't need to follow some sort of meme diet like GOMAD. Just eat more of what you'd normally eat and hit your protein intake. You will gain some fat while bulking, but that's a sign you're doing it correctly. If you start gaining too much fat (and you'll know if you are, trust me) then that's a sign you should decrease your caloric intake. Remember, at the end of a bulk you can always cut and lose any fat you gain, and if you bulked correctly you won't need to lose that much. Always prioritize muscle development, it much slower and more difficult than fat loss.

Here's the gist since I get the sense you're also young and inexperienced and probably have a very short attention span:
>use a TDE calculator to find your maintenance calories
>eat 10%-20% more calories than that value
>make sure you're eating enough protein, with the rule of thumb being 1g per lb of bodyweight
>most importantly, make sure you're actually working out regularly and (arguably more importantly) working out hard

>>71075886
Cardio helps lifting.

whey on oatmeal is disgusting

>>71075886
I'm the best

>>71082672
At being gay looooooooool

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>>71075886
>90% of supplements are unnecessary
>Quality reps are all that matter, whether its high weight low reps or the opposite
>All diets are memes, just dont eat garbage and get high protein. stop counting carbs, sugars, fats, whatever else you retards do
>Testosterone optimization is a meme, and if you did literally EVERYTHING you could for it, It would go up only like 100* max
>Focusing on being lean is better than strength focus. You are already stronger than 95% of the population even if you lift only for aesthetics. However if strength training for big numbers is more fun for you then by all means go for it but you will look like shit
>Most of you would benefit a lot more than you think from 15min of good stretching a day and just 2 hours of cardio a week

>>71082016
>say retarded thing
>people lash out at you for being stupid
>lol look at this seethe
retard

when i fucked your mom and she told you she didn't like it she was actually lying to you

>>71080941
This sounds like something a 5-year-old would say in only one breath

>>71081469
didnt read
>>71079441
landscaping: pays great (no im not talking about an entry level mowing lawns job) and gets you moving and lifting shit. look into it. only qualifications you need are being fit, healthy, and willing to do work. youll have to start off with an entry level job mowing lawns or digging holes and putting in new plants most likely, but you can move up fast. the truth is that sweaty physical labor is real high in demand because americans are fat as fuck. you are extremely valuable by not being fat

>>71083509
Okay bro enjoy your destroyed joints

you can lose weight eating whatever the fuck you want as long as you avoid sugar.

>>71083509
Thanks bro I'll stick to my fake hard work with a homegym and WFH.

>>71083899
based

>>71075938
Sedentary DYEL outs himself lamo

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>>71075886
genetics are more important than pretty much anything else as long as you sometimes lift weights and aren't significantly food or sleep deprived. guys in the top 10% genetics will pretty much always look better, more muscular, and will be stronger than guys in the bottom 10%. they can do whatever they want in the gym if they stay below 30 reps and get even remotely to failure, they can skip weeks or months of training, they can eat half of the protein, they can sleep 6 hours instead of 10, they can drink, smoke, and eat pizza. they'll still be better.
the same applies to almost anything in life. someone with an IQ of 80 can study and practice twice as hard and long as someone with an IQ of 120, but they'll still be severely outperformed.

>>71078607
Average adult male has higher lean body mass now than in the late 1800s, so that is false.

However, testosterone has been falling since the 1980s, coincidentally around the time of the obesity epidemic, the thing which we know causes people to have less test and more estrogen.

Basically, don’t be obese. If you are a “big dude” and you don’t have a flat stomach, you’re not a big dude, you’re just fat. Also, stop eating microwave dinners.

>>71079376
You’re retarded. 4 day UL works just as well, actually even better for intermediate and advanced lifters.

>>71079464
You forgot about junk food. If your appetite goes up by 20% after a run, and you reach for a 1000 calorie milkshake, then running won’t actually make you lose weight.

>>71076982
Are you retarded

>>71081414
The first 15 minutes are the most important 15 minutes. So you could do 15 minutes of lifting followed by 15 minutes of cardio and get almost as much benefit as everyone else does.

>>71081982
Supercompensation just means that once you reach a point where it’s impossible to recover from a stimulus that is necessary to grow, you will be forced to overreach temporarily in order to keep growing.

You may become temporarily weaker a day after a workout, but then be fully recovered in 48 hours, at first. Eventually, it may take an entire week to recover from a hard workout, but you still need to do easier workouts to maintain muscle mass while you’re recovering from the hard workout.

>Bulking
bulking is retarded and a complete joke, I also packed muscle by only consuming around 90-120 protein a day

Aziz's physique could have been enhanced if he added lamb Rogan Josh to his diet

>>71075938
took me 3 years to lose all my muscle, but i got it back because i recovered, you probably follow a lot of roiders on social media, the only reason they deflate is because they don't have enough test to sustain all the muscle they packed while on gear, a true natural will keep his muscles

avril lavigne is top lifting music and manly as fuck

>>71075886
salt is a supermineral. eat more salt

>>71075915
>you can build a body with machines only
I thought this whole time people used machines more than free weights, a lot of people shit on free weights and glorify machines.

>>71087213
Bulking has a specific purpose. If someone is underweight and skinny, and that person continues to weigh the same no matter how long they workout, then they need to eat food in order to become larger.

The idea of bulking we’ve been fed is based on the habits of roided out bodybuilders, and doesn’t reflect reality for most people. Also, prioritizing bulking as a norm is outdated in a country where 70% of people are overweight, and therefore don’t need to bulk.

>>71077377
>ingesting pure palmitic fatty acid
ACCKKKK

you can actually digest vegetables in your ass as they are water soluble so they will break down and absorb into your bloodstream

>>71075896
Lift heavy Lift often
Getting big isn't about appearance

>>71075886
you dont need to "stay hidratated". Drink water when your body ask you, dont chug on it just because its le healthy.

here are mine:
> * only the last 1-2 reps before absolute failure actually does anything, and you have to push through those reps hard to induce muscle damage
> * black people have inherently bigger muscles
> * you probably think you are bigger or smaller than you actually are

>>71075894
/fit/ is obsessed with trannies. idk whether you want to be one or you want to fuck one, but you sure do think about trannies a lot

>Squats and deadlifts have a terrible risk to reward ratio.
>Everybody is a closet bodybuilder
>Genetics plays a much bigger role than a lot of people realise, some people will be strong with little effort, others will be lifelong DYELs

>>71086403
>reducing frequency per muscle group for no reason
>have to dedicate one more day
>can't properly rest
>thinking that adding a billion exercise variations will make a difference
Get on a bike fatty.

>>71088406
The first one is not true, as training to failure and keeping a few reps in reserve yield the same results, assuming you do more than one set.

>>71088554
If you keep your core tight (stable and flat, not arched) and don't go beyond technical failure, their risk is low.

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>>71075894
Fucking kek
FPBP

>>71078906
Telling people to eat more of the most calorie dense & least satiating macro to lose weight obviously has consequences. Especially if they stop crash dieting of some keto/IF variant and then return back to normal eating habits like everyone does at some point while still believing no amount of fat will make you gain weight. So they will eat fatty foods and put abundant butter on bread believing it has no consequence.

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>>71075938
>Lift to achieve something that is naturally sustainable without having to go to the gym everyday, or every week
this This THIS

I found out how worthless it is to lift unless you are competing or are social media influencer.

Most of the day you will be fully clothed and nobody care about your "gains".
There's no point in trying to lift as heavy as possible unless you will try to compete in a contest to make a living.
Eating like a pro bodybuilder is retarded. You are exhausting yourself by counting calories and eating the "right food" instead of just relaxing and establishing a functional that will work for the rest of your life where you can eat whatever you want but in moderation.

>>71090579
did he okayd?

CICO isn't the end all be all of diet. People should focus on fixing their metabolic system when trying to lose weight. This is actually fairly easy, as you really need to just eliminate industrial lubricant (canola oil, basedbean oil, vegetable oil) in order to make a great first step.

>>71090806
>CICO isn't the end all be all of diet
Yes, but it's easily the vast majority of it
Everything else is your 5% here and there.

>>71075886
There is no such thing as bench press. Literally doesn't exist

>>71090850
This
I have never seen a man press a bench

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>>71082619
Not him but thank you for this.

>>71075886
Kikes, niggers and homos should be exterminated

>>71075938
>Living is essentially pointless. The second you stop breathing your body rots, therefore you have to consistently spend time in your day breathing.
kek

>>71088588
There is literally no difference in exercise selection between upper lower and full body. It is literally just the exact same workout spread out over more days.

And yes, the frequency is lower. Only newbies can handle squatting 3 days a week. Eventually, you have to cut back to squatting 2 days a week to recover.

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>>71075938
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>>71091429
>full body x3 means you're squatting 3 times
Wrong, full body means you're hitting every muscle group in one session. I did not talk about intensity or exercise selection.

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>>71091773
Oh you didn’t? Here’s a literal picture of you talking about exercise selection.

Now go back to plebbit and leave the exercising to people who have actually learned something past starting strength.

>>71075886
Obesity is primarily a mental disorder, with physical effects being symptoms.

>>71092222
This is objectively correct though
Also checked

>>71092177
Ah yes, I see my mistake. Two exercises for quads (like squats and bulgarian split squats) are more than one. Therefore, a lot (or a billion, as I wrote hyperbolically). I really fucked that one up.
>people who have actually learned something past starting strength
Jesus fucking christ, you equate people doing full body to rippetards right off the bat and claim to have any idea what you're doing. You can stop the clown act.

>>71082619
>You need to be eating at a surplus to gain weight and build muscle
what is body recomposition
if you are a noob you can gain muscles with a caloric deficit

>>71078607
cringe take. i think test should be treated the same as est in terms of legality though. if faggots can freely troon out, i guess men should be able to roid.

>>71081944
low rows exist and hit lats just as well without stressing forearms as much

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>>71075886
People should focus on back health. Legs are merely a means to an end.

Crossfire hate is a bandwagon npc opinion.