hello big tobacco

>>71075794
If I smoke one a day I never get sick and never get canker sores. If I don't smoke I'm sick a few times a year and get ulcers in my mouth. I suffered from ulcers for years and they completely go away when I smoke.

>yellow teeth
>smell like shit
>raspy voice
>waste of money
>crusty, rusted dry wrinkled disgusting premature aging face

>>71075852
If you go overboard sure. A couple to wind down on a weekend with bros? Perfectly acceptable and overly demonized

>>71075852
>>yellow teeth
This is a meme. Coffee stains teeth much worse.
>>smell like shit
Women actually rank it favorably.
>>raspy voice
Like Bing Crosby? Good.
>>waste of money
It's an investment because your brain benefits and you get sick less often. Worth every penny and motivates you to earn more money.
>>crusty, rusted dry wrinkled disgusting premature agin
It prevents aging. Majority of supercentarians were smokers.

>>71075873
>A couple to wind down on a weekend with bros? Perfectly acceptable and overly demonized
Then you're not getting the full benefits.

smoking is bad even if you do it but dont say its good because its naht

>>71075794
Fuck the faggot 4mb limit
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>>71075794
>Is smoking cigarettes actually based?
Yes.

>>71075967
NPC moment.

>>71075841
It really does seem like it would BTFO respiratory infections

>>71075794
Helps cut but kills your vascularity and hardens arteries. Kills your cardio and you wake up coughing blood. Also lung cancer. If youre interested in the appetite suppression use gum/patches

>>71076005
As long as your not a chain smoker or have a family history prown to cancer then yeah.
Funny how all these do gooders will shit on smoking but they'll endorse e vapes.

>>71075794
tobacco lowers stress, of course it's good for you
but it does cause vasoconstriction (and worse shit for the addicts) so to get the benefit and not the complications you need to make wise use of it
>my oldest living family members all chain smoked for decades
this is a very stupid point, smoking a pack/week and heaven forbid, a pack/day fucks you up in every way possible
don't be another statistic

Is it okay to smoke once or twice a day? I am asking when compared to a pack or more a day. Is it still really bad?

>>71075794
>big tobacco so desperate it has to shill shit on a chinese hat's weaving forum

>>71075852
Don't forget that it fucks the lungs

>>71076094
who the fuck endorses vaping besides faggots?

>>71076111
Of course it's bad. Why would you think it's not?

>>71076015
its great for those, I dont usually smoke but every time I feel a raspy throat or plugged nose coming I have a cigarette and it seems to help. Maybe its the slight numbing effect or it actually does something against the germs, I dont know.

>>71075794
My mom spent the last 8 years of her life strapped to an oxygen tank from a COPD diagnosis after smoking since she was 10. It progressively got worse over time. Near the end, she could barely cross a room without her oxygen dipping and then having a near panic attack. In the last month or so, her lungs stopped being able to filter out carbon dioxide. When the CO2 built up in her body, she had crazy delirious paranoid hallucinations.
>Smoking
>No thank you

>>71076156
but muh fake test boost

My pulmonologist literally said it doesn't matter if you smoke a couple every once in a while. If you do it daily and make it a habit, yeah it's an issue eventually over a longer period of time. Other wise? Really doesn't matter that much. Problem is that once people start, most of them cannot keep it at "every once in a while".

>>71075794
>improve neural cohesion
qrd?

>>71076128
Baseless statement followed with a fallacious rhetorical question.

>>71075794
>raise testosterone
All nicotine does is partially inhibit the conversion of testosterone into estrogen.
The gains are marginal at best, and the benefits are far outweighed by the cardiovascular damage you suffer as a result.
Besides, obsessing over T levels is low-T bitch behaviour.
Naturally high T males are naturally self-confident.

>>71075794
Get fucked tobacco shill
I will never give you shitbags for the asthma that fucked my childhood or the addiction I struggled with for 20 years. If I ever met a tobacco exec or professional shill in real life I'm gonna throat punch a mfer.

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/ourguy/ worked it all out
>no alcohol
>no coffee
>no tobacco
>eat meat
>coom when you need to
if /fit/ followed the Nietzsche protocol they'd be a lot better off

>>71076015
I don't know why or how but they helped with allergies and a nasal infection once lol

>>71075967
yeah they are bad for you it's retarded to think otherwise but it's fine if you don't overdo it just like it's fine to have a beer in the afternoon when you come home

>>71076114
first of all tobacco isn't le big anymore and also it's not big tobacco when I buy a bag of rolling tobacco for $15 that lasts me like 6 months lol.

>>71076199
for over a year after I started I did keep it to once in a while but then that occasional smoke during my work break became that smoke during my break and after work, and then it became that smoke on the drive to work, and then that smoke on the drive anywhere, and then while I have a beer and a breakfast cig and an afternoon cig and that evening ciggie as well and on some days I'd smoke like 6 of them. Sometimes more. So lately I haven't smoked in a couple weeks, some people genuinely get really addicted and can't stop. I can stop but it just became a habit like how I browse this site too much or jerk off too much or eat too much junk or play too much xbox, if you do nothing productive with your day it's easier to fall into habits like these. And if you're depressed about shit and stressed out then bad habits find an easier time taking hold or habits that were previously okay can become bad

>>71075794
occasional transdermal tobacco application might be okay, but cigs are shit homie

>>71076210
Yes, it's baseless to say cigarettes are bad for you. Fucking retarded kike

>>71076266
Best books of his to read?

>>71076156
Sorry to hear that anon. I might go out the same way, i know i was in early stage for that when i quit. Cigarettes are trash.

>>71076276
In what world is a 750 billion dollar industry in the US not big?

I tried smoking for the first time today. I only smoked a half 3 times and felt more or less the same, I really didn't get what was so great about it.

>>71076156
I’m sure it’s hard to type out but I appreciate you sharing bro.

OP there may be some benefits from nicotine but cigarettes are the worst way of delivering it, especially because of all the chemicals the makers add.

>>71076156
This shit needs to be posted in everyone of these cigarette shill threads. I’ve worked in the ER and I cannot tell you how many people are frequent flyers due to the smoking induced COPD. These people are miserable and are dependent on their oxygen just to survive. You can’t convince me smoking is anything other than harmful.

>>71076340
in a world where if you live your life you see practically nobody smoking and in a world where well-known companies do many trillions of dollars in profits alone. Yeah, I know it's "big" but it's not Big Tobacco the way it used to be. In the 60s more than half of American men smoked. Now it's under 10% I'm quite sure.

Obviously I don't really support these corporations anyway and IMO if you're gonna smoke it's better to roll your own and it's also cheaper.

>>71076156
Would have happened either way, cursed genes.

>great aunt lived to 89 because of how much she could distress with a cig on the porch

Meanwhile obese people keel over at 44 but nah, fuck doing any kind of huge campaign over disgusting levels of sugar or hormonally laced food. Lol

>>71076400
Rollies still support big tobacco u idiot. Maybe the don't smoke daily but a lot of young people smoke on the weekends in the US. I think they're larping as euros lol.

>>71076276
It’s literally easier to quit smoking than any other drug ever. I found it far harder to quit weed and caffeine than to quit smoking. You basically feel the equivalent of always being slightly hungry for a few days to a couple weeks depending on how long you’ve been doing it and then the urges totally dissipate.

>>71076426
it's not too hard for me but I don't wanna say it's super easy in case someone else gets hooked and it'll be me to blame or something

>>71076417
okay, then I don't even really care. it's not like big tobacco is putting up surveillance cameras or trying to make cars illegal or telling me not to eat meat or spending billions on homosexual ad campaigns. the worst thing they do is shill their product which is bad for you. they don't force me to take their product either

>>71076408
>but nah, fuck doing any kind of huge campaign over disgusting levels of sugar or hormonally laced food.
They do that already anon.

Lift intensely three times a week, run intensely three times a week, eat well, sleep well, get your vitamins etc...? Yeah you can probably tolerate and mitigate a lot of the negative effects of smoking and live longer than some sedentary overweight blob but you'd still be better off without it. Ask anyone who went from a pack or more a day to not smoking and they'll tell you how much better they feel for it.
If you really want the benefits of nicotine there are a lot of better ways to get them. That said a couple of durries now and then when you're out with the boys isn't gonna do much to hurt you. You're not gonna accumulate enough of anything to do damage. Your lungs are getting more damage just walking around a modern city from all the exhaust fumes and air pollution.

>>71076508
Please. They should mark up soda and anything with shit like HFCS at least 3-4x if they want to actually do anything.

>>71075852
>When a woman has that motherly scent of fresh laundry and tobacco
Bros...

>>71076266
you just turn 16 bro? neet cha died because he ate nothing but fruit and his stomach melted lol

>>71076495
Kind of a good point, it’s a nice personal freedom to be able to smoke a cigarette when you want to. I cycle on and off of them depending what’s going on in my life. With how shitty every other facet of our society is I like being able to at least enjoy myself with a simple cigarette. sometimes I want to visit places like Japan or France, places that I already have an interest in but also I like the fact of knowing you can smoke there and no one treats it like you’re doing something insane.

>>71075852
>reminds girls of their dad
Easy pussy

>>71076317
It is baseless. You don't have an argument.

100 malboro bux have been deposited to your account

It's weird but I only smoke more than 2-3 cigs a day and i cant smoke more because I can sense the stimulation it does and I just don't like the over stimulation, I smoke pipe also from time to time but I can spend months without smoking my body can't be addicted I never crave it, it's just a treat for myself I don't understand the addiction behind it tho because I never felt it

>>71078307
>neet cha died because he ate nothing but fruit and his stomach melted lol
Kek he did spend his last years as a vegetable but it had nothing to do with his diet

>>71075794
I can't tell if this is a meme anymore.
>promote socialization
This is the most retarded part and obviously just an excuse.

Cancer sucks. But even more important, cigarettes smell and taste like ass.

>>71075794
The neuron activation and raising of testosterone (insignificantly) is from the nicotine in the cigarettes. Not cigarettes themselves. You're better off vaping, if anything, and just getting pure nicotine (or close to it), in a safer and in my opinion all around better way. Cigarettes are the shittiest way to ingest nicotine.

>>71075794
Old people lived longer in spite of smoking because their lives were less sedentary and healthier in general. If they hadn't smoked they'd have lived even longer

People on this board will believe anything Jesus Christ.

>>71076156
Grandmother also has COPD, been smoking since 14 (she’s 78 now). That shit has got to be the most depressing thing to witness in someone else. She literally can’t do anything without her oxygen tank and is on the cusp of being fully immobile.

Yeah, a cheeky cig once every season is fine given that we put much a ton of garbage into our bodies on a much more frequent basis but goddamn smoking daily is pure disregard for your future.

>>71075794
my grandpa smoked and he died of emphysema at 50-something

I had girls come with me outside parties to take a puff of my cig, while other losers were staying inside. You get to have small talk with the girl you like and its an alone moment with her.

>>71076099
>tobacco lowers stress
By being the causing factor in raised stress when entering withdrawal. You're an addicted retard. Smoking cigarettes is like entering an abusive relationship

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>>71076276
>first of all tobacco isn't le big anymore
You're living proof that smoking makes you retarded.

>>71075794
>medical error becomes 3/4th largest cause of death
>pro-smoking shills start showing up
Yeah i don't think so mr.berg

>>71076266
It must have worked out for him?

>>71078307
>>71079116
He had a brain tumor, he went partially blind from the pressure on his optic nerve several years before his mental breakdown

>>71079765
This is how I feel about coffee. In fact, it's much harder to quit than cigarettes.

>>71079765
there's something called self control, anon
i've never smoked a whole pack in my life, they go stale on me with half of the pack untouched
this takes over a month, I don't smoke more than 3 cigs a week

>>71075794
Aircuck bros......not like this

>>71076426
That's the opposite of true, most people have more success quitting opiates than quitting smoking.

>>71079229
id rather inhale natural nicotine than synthetic and no its not the same
vaping is gay, imagine john wayne with a vape

>>71075794
theres no limit to human stupidity, is there?

>>71075794
jews are shilling?
all tobacco companies are owned by jews you retard

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the criminal gang that is modern medicine and doctors dont want you to smoke but they want you to inject yourself experimental (((vaccine))) that is perfectly safe

>>71081330
threadly reminder that these threads are made by tobacco companies

>>71081358
le big tobacco companie

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>>71075852
>>71075967
>>71076114
>>71076156
>>71081330
>2023
>Doesn't smoke cigarettes
Were you bullied in school, retarded or prehaps both?

>I-It kills you!
Yes, and? Was life a competition about who lives the longest?

>Y-You get addicted on them!
No you don't, expect if you are underage and incapable of smoking in moderation.

>I-Its expensive!!!
Who forced you to buy a pack a day, you fucking peat-gavel?

>>71081372
le grande putas

Stop smoking.

>>71075794
if it didn't make you stink like shit it would be based

>>71081315
>vaping is gay
I literally couldn't care less, and normal people don't think like this anyway. You don't look cooler by smoking cigs and you don't look gay by vaping.
>imagine john wayne with a vape
Imagine being retarded enough to smoke cigarettes for the cool factor. Imagine being so image obsessed you'll smoke cigarettes when there are healthier alternatives just to impress other retards.
If you just aren't into vaping I'd recommend smoking cigars, that's way better than cigs. They don't fuck up your lungs. Or you can fuck your mother and kill yourself for all I care.

>>71076156
My grandpa had and died from COPD too from being a smoker for 30+ years. The sad part is that he actually got and beat cancer (unrelated to cigs) but his lungs were so weak that he died from pneumonia while in recovery.
I'll smoke a cig maybe once a week at most and only as a social thing since I no longer drink. Yeah it's possible to smoke a pack a day and live to a hundred, but for a lot of people it's a slow miserable descent into poor health and and early death.

>>71081315
John Wayne was a stolen valor SOB draft dodger. A cosplay cowboy cowering at home while his Hollywood contemporaries enlisted to fight.

>>71075966
The full benefits is me enjoying a sunny saturday afternoon with a pint and a cigarette and then proceed to not drink or smoke for the rest of the week

>>71076324
Bad at writing. Listen to audiobooks instead.
>beyond good and evil
>the birth of tragedy
>twilight of the idols

>>71082537
oops geneology of morals; being beyond good and evil is just an aphorism from it

There is a near zero percent chance OP has actually smoked and isn't just some tobacco shill or some shut in loser who falls for every "masculine" marketing technique in the book, I have several family members who have smoked since they were teens and every single one regrets it

>>71081315
Use tobacco pauches then. Still natural nicotine without the cancer and lung damage.

>>71076266
The last one is a complete lie and Nietzsche even talks about the exact opposite.

>>71075934
>Women actually rank it favorably.
lol.
you have never touched a woman, ever.
there is not one (1) non-smoking woman, nay, non-smoking human being that finds the smell of a regular cigarette smoker pleasant.
hell, even some smokers find the smell foul.

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Cigarettes always make me think of sex now because I only have sex with prostitutes and their flats always smell like cigs

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>>71076266
I would light up a cigarette after shooting that stupid horse he hugged and cried over.

>>71075934
Cigarette smoking has been clearly linked to the most common causes of death in the elderly and contributes to the higher death rate and disability rate associated with many chronic illnesses that are common in this age group. The combination of smoking along with other risk factors like hypertension and diabetes increase high frequency disease, and disability as well as adding to an increase in mortality rate. In order to verify if a healthy lifestyle really favours longevity and how much smoking is incompatible with extreme longevity, we investigated the prevalence of smokers and the total smoking exposure of a sample of centenarians as regards residual survival and health conditions. Our sample consists of 157 centenarians selected among the registered residents of Rome: 39 males and 118 females (ratio = 1:3), mean age being 101.59 years (sd = 1.8). 83.8% of the centenarians have never smoked, 13.5% are former smokers, and 2.7% are active smokers. The average starting age of smoking was 21.2 years while the average age of quitting in former smokers was 65.7 years with an average of 44.7 smoking years (sd = 17.1). The average number of smoked cigarettes per day is quite low, less than 10 cigarettes. There seemed to be a significant difference (p < 0.001) in gender results in smokers: male centenarians were 46%, while female reached only 8.1%. Statistically significant higher prevalence of diseases illnesses were noted among centenarian smokers over the age of 65 (p < 0.02). Moreover Cox's regression has shown in centenarians a lower survival rate (p < 0.05) in smokers than in non-smokers. In conclusion, our study is evidence that smoking is for all, but some exceptional subjects, incompatible with successful aging and compromises life expectancy even in extreme longevity.

I'm never 100% sure if people do this just to meme or actually think is but w/e

>>71076266
Nietzsche was an involuntary celibate

Quit cigs - love vaping
Quit sugar - love the fake sweetener shit

Less harmful alternatives.. fuck the system

i stand with big tobacco against the jews

>>71076346
cigs are trash imo. 5 second head rush and it's over. Cigars are where it's at, based long lasing buzz that makes you want to wear sunglasses indoors, like coke.

>>71076426
I doubt that. I knew a girl who kicked heroin but couldn't kick cigs

i used to smoke a 10 cigarretes pack everyday when i was in college, quit 3 years ago when covid started and decided to start boxing and lift. Never fucking again ill grab a cigarrete, the smells is fucking atrocious, i cant believe i used to put that shit on mybody. Im not gonna tell you what to do with your body because that aint my job, im just talking from personal experience

>>71083604
Tell me more about cigars

It makes cardio a nightmare, hacking up big globs of mucus from your lungs is not fun.
Worst part of cigarettes is the addiction factor. It turns you into a slave, not a man.

>>71078340
lmao anon gets it.

>>71082934
>half the male centenarians had smoked before
>sample heavily skews towards women
>women former smokers get btfo

Sounds like it’s a woman problem

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zyn nicotine pouches get you all the test and brain boosts minus the lung cancer drawbacks.
This factoid and this thread will now be repeated as long as 4chan continues to exist, and 4chan will continue to exist in some form until the end of time.

>>71083656
>10 cigarretes pack everyday

how many cigarettes in its pack?

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>>71083993
does your dad smoke? I would like to put lipstick on you, shave your chest and then suck on those titties.

>>71075794
>shilling cigarettes on a health and fitness board
utterly shameless

>>71075794
This fucking cough I have man. Don’t smoke these things I am so fucking done.

>>71083618
Most addictions are actually easy to break if you decide you don’t like what you’re addicted to. All smokers hate smoking but lie to themselves about benefits that they get from smoking so they can justify being an addict.

Should this board be /simp/?

>>71086418
a (10 cig) pack

>>71075794
>>71075934
>b-b-but I need a ciggy to let the stress out
>b-b-but it makes me muh manly and le attractive
Lmao, you're poorfag wagecucks looking like hobos that need to unwind after being yelled at by your superiors when you smoke at the back of a building like scouring rats.

>actually paying for lung cancer
lmao

>>71075816
>hello big tobacco
Big Tobacco is unironically anti-cig nowadays, get with the times grandpa.

>>71083618
Just don't smoke more than one cig a day.
Dumbass.
I struggled more with my goyslop addiction than tobacco.

>>71082779
I think I'm weird because I don't smoke and my dick becomes mega diamonds when I travel to Eastern euro and see all their slutty skinny chain smoking women outdoors. 100% chance if you catch a girl smoking outside a bar/club, she'll service my shaft after some fluff talk

>>71075794
You see a lot of old smokers but no old fatties

>>71075794
>>Jews and government suddenly start shilling against it all at once
Just so you know, Hitler was very against smoking as well. Nazis were one of the first to introduce smoking bans in government offices.

>>71088135
It's actually very ironic. They do it because it increases sales.

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>>71075794
>yes goyim buy the drugs and pay the tax

>>71089523
I remember when I saw my first, actually only, anti-tobacco ad created by big tobacco. They flashed a bunch of well taken and good looking pictures of celebrities smoking cigarettes looking cool and then said smoking isn't cool.

>>71076015
I believe the reason I never get sick is from drinking every night. The alcohol in my body makes it inhospitable to pathogens.

>>71082779
my ex was a non smoiker and said that the smell of cigarettes when we went out at night turned her on. It also happened with another girl so I can tell you that there's truth to what he's saying

>>71075852
This. /Thread

>>71075816
This

>>71089926
Same. Everytime I smoke a cig on the balcony after sex (wich do be hitting different btw), my girl gets horny again and grabs my dick while I smoke

>>71075794
Take low dose galantamine to activate the same receptors without the addiction or vasiorestrction of nicotine.

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>>71082882
Chances are that isn't just cigarettes you're smelling but percocets. They do also smoke though. Prostitutes are a mess of health.

>>71075794
>"cigerettes are good cus the jews and I like them so they must be healthy"
>doesn't know everyone that smokes ages like shit

No what the fuck?