Who is legit and who is a scammer?>Dr. Mike Israetel>Dr. Layne Norton>Greg Doucette>Athlean X
Israetel and Norton are somewhat legit
>>71075618>SomewhatWho is the top dog then?
>>71075605Mike Mentzer, Dorian Yates, & John Heart are legit. The rest are fags.
>>71075605I never heard about others but Athlean X is legit in that what he says checks out with what I learned in med school. He seems to be obsessed with cable excercises and extremely risk-averse, e.g. keeps saying you'll injure yourself if you do this or that with a free weight about excercises I've been doing just fine for years, but I would recommend him to my dad.
I only watch Will Ratelle.
>>71075605>Dr. Mike IsraetelRoider running a channel for roiders. Good advice normally but be cautious because some advice is meant specifically for roiders and half the time he doesn't specify when that is>Dr. Layne NortonOne of the few nutrition channels you should follow closely and watch the backlog of. Top tier and worthy of having notifications on for>Greg DoucetteGrifter to the maximum. All he cares about is getting paid. Maingaining was proven to be a buzzword that changed definition on command and he's done lots of stupid things like charge 4 figures for outsourced training programs and he called steroids a supplement for ectomorphs. Ignore him and block his channel out completely if you care about not getting fucked over>Athlean XCringe fake weights lifter who sells you nonsense. Listen to him about injuries and rehab only. He's a former sports physical therapist who steps WAY outside of his lane for a lot of his videos. He knows his shit about injuries and anatomy but when it comes to actual training he falls flat a lot of the time. He copies BobandBrad sometimes for content ideas too and I saw him straight up steal one of their videos once
>>71075709I like Athlean X's worst/best exercise segments, if he is fake as you say, which channels do you recommend that have the same detailed content like that?
>>71075605If they sell supplements thay are a scammer.
>>71075709>He's a former sports physical therapistHe was assistant strength coach for Metz, not just their PT, and he has trained many professional atheletes from different sports. Outside of bodybuilding, he's probably the only really big youtuber with experience training actual athletes.
>>71075605Where's Mike Chang?
>>71075605Dr.Mike is the only one worth listening to. Unless you like watching Layne complain about what morons on instagram are saying regarding fitness, otherwise he's got nothing new to say. X for rehab, the rest is trash and honestly there's better channels for that. Greg is a mongrel with nothing to offer. Dr. Mike, NH, and Bald Omni-man are all you need, you could throw Alex in there but I hate the way he speaks
>>71075709listen to this anon. I'd still give dr mike more benefit of a doubt regarding programming since at it's core it is just "do as much as you can that you can recover from". he uses a lot of buzzwords to get you to that conclusion but it is still very legit. >>71075830Jeff is expert creeping as fuck. sure he might know some stuff about rehab but even for that I'd listen to Barbell Medicine. Jeff tends to fear monger a lot on issues that can be solved by finding appropriate volume instead of completely avoiding the movement. Also personally I hate his clickbaity ass titles/thumbnails he farms views from clueless noobs who really don't know any better. For best/worst lifts I'd point you towards Natural Hypertrophy. He goes into autistic detail over this but is really knowledgeable on it.
>>71075605>Layne "mass is conserved" Nortonlol. Lmao even. He also says vegan > carnivore. What a fucking braindead retard. I guess all you have to do is suck a few cocks for a PhD these days
>>710756053 jews and lane who's such a lying shyster he might as well be jewish
>>71075605>>Dr. Mike IsraetelIt's this guy, he has israel in his name.
>>71075676jeff is the worst of them all with unnecessary click bait and over complicated info. No movement is inherently unsafe, only unsafe weight management. as you even said you’ve been doing exercises fine for years
Norton is good, rest are a joke
>>71076284>juggernaut>garage strength>sika strength >zack telander>KOT guy>barbell medecineThe list goes on, there are better resources for rehab and athletic strength than jeff
>>71075605all griftersCAPTCHA: 4KJ G0Y
>>71076624Carnivore is shittier than vegan. Vegan is worse than omnivore for sure (at least more difficult to do right and more expensive). But that's not the question. He literally did a huge video debunking Game changers, which is vegan propaganda crap. So unless you only think in low-res black and wide, he's a good guy to listen to
>>71075709>Dr. Layne Norton>One of the few nutrition channels you should followholy shit you are retarded. his nutrition advice is the worst
>>71075605They're all on gear so their advice is shit for natty people. You're better of listening to big natty guys.anyways in terms of grifter statusdoucette > meme norton >>> POWER GAP > athlean X >>> (((israetel)))
>>71075605Greg Doucette for the fuckin voice alone not watchable. You can't call yourself top tier elite genes when you fuckin roid and are 5'5.
>>71076088Not if they sell supplements with working ingredients in right doses to normal selling price. Different if they put some weird shit in it that does nothing or over- or underdose or demand way higher prices.
>>71075605Who is legit and who is a scammer?>Dr. Kike Israel>Dr. Lame Norwood>Gay Banquette >Autist X
>>71077105really reaching with "gay banquette" but at least you put in the effort
>>71077107Greggs Banquette
>>71077105>>71077134>not just Greg Douchette
>>71075644I only get my gym advices from Arnold's book.
>>71077148>not going above and beyond
>>71076850Shane/MST Systems is probably the best
old athlean X is very legitold greg is pretty legitNorton is a retard when it comes to nutrition, he's ok to listen to for exercise. Mike has some decent information sometimes but his humor is shit.Here's the 'natty' norton when he was younger with gyno. You have to take what roid trannies say with a grain of salt because they can build muscle even on a shitty diet.
>>71075709This guy youtubes
>>71075605>>Dr. Mike IsraetelI like the guy but he's basically a woke redditor who rejects anything out of the ordinary. Thinks anyone who does anything different is crazy and stupid.
>>71076620Jeff was a physical therapist / trainer for the new york mets, you should actually listen to everything he says regarding the shoulder. Above all else, he truly is an expert on the shoulder. I've seen other youtubers point out the weird exercises Jeff shows sometimes, but those exercises are actual legit exercises organizations like the NFL and NBA put their athletes through.
>no one mentions Natural HypertrophyNH is full of shit. What kind of "frenchman" is unfortunate enough to not be able to properly digest dairy and milk?
>>71075605Mike Israetel is for sure a retard volume jewHe used to program 30 sets/ week only for trapsHe never trains to failureHe is perverted and brings in pornography references in every video He has to die.
>>71075605>Dr Kike IsraelThe name alone should make you distrust him
>>71077234>He never trains to failureRoidtrannies never need to do this>He is perverted and brings in pornography references in every videoWould be based if he wasn't a kike
>Dr. Mike Israetelpre roiders listen to this guy and femcels>Dr. Layne Nortonabsolutely retarded takes on everything, mixes up different studies and makes up his own fantasy world where you can apply everything from everywhere and it'll somehow workyou have to be a normie to believe what he says, or a female with a uniform fetish>Greg Doucettecould be good advice if he wasn't so adamant about his one size fits it all talks>Athlean Xliterally only boomers and seniors at the gym listen to this guy, he gives WRONG form advice and his clickbait is fucking retardedif you want quality advice, then learn how to properly observe and look at what pros are doing during training.
>>71077198Lol
>>71077156I found a bag dumped in a trashcan when I was 17 and it had arnolds book in it, I gave it away because I was a permaonline skinnyfat shitbag at the time but, I still remember the section on concentrated curls to GET ZE BIG PUMP!!!Fuck I wish I still had that same book lol.
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>>71077520Nah go to the page that has the full page image of Arnold doing one armed bicep concetration curls! Please!
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>>71077614HAH! Thanks Anon, fuck that is a great book.I'm so dumb for giving it away
>>71077655You can always order it off Amazon or some shit. It's really worth the money.
>>71077226>>71077226>Jeff was a physical therapist / trainer for the new york metsholy shit this is so fucking wrong, he's got a BSc in biochemistry and his bitch has a PhD in biomedical sciences. Nothing even remotely related to training. Plus he's 5'2"
>>71077664I might just buy it, I am gonna try track down the one I found in a bin first tho, I know who I gave it to.
>>71077231You know he's not 100% french right? he's a mutt. Pretty sure he does not even live in (metropolitan) france
>>71075605More like Greg FAGette
>>71075618>Israetel and Norton are somewhat legit> le based roid tranny kikels Did u even read what u wrote retard?
>>71077226Baseball players don’t even look that good for the most part.
>>71078052It's not about a good looking shoulder, but a still functioning shoulder despite putting it under stress.
>>71077015Proof?
>>71075676>>71076827take the sped pill: the only good exercises are the retard-proof ones.a tiny risk of you fucking up adds up over a million reps.
theyre all a bunch of scamming grifters. even alpha destiny is doing it now. he's doing that thing where he will say a bunch of opinions and then 2 videos later he will contradict himself. these people all just go around in circles
>>71076088This is my dream woman
>mfw I learned Dr Kike Israel is SHORTER than the famously short Alpha Destiny
>>71075709Are Israetel’s RP physique templates natty friendly? It seems doable with the RIR system + workout rating adjustments. Was considering running one after my cut to focus on arms + shoulders.
>>71076088Truth has been spokenIf they "integrate" sups ads in every video/post/story they want you to eat shit and don't give a fuck.
>>71077194He's natty in that pic, btw, despite the massive lats and obvious gyno.
>>71075605dont know any of them but the guy who's last name is israel is sus
>>71079338That one is good. It's worth it
>>71079318Please tell me they have a picture together
>>71075605Lyle McDonald > ALL
>>71075605>Dr. Mike IsraetelShows you how to push yourself through some high risk/high reward techniques like larger ROM, greater time under tension and etc. for maximum hypertrophy gains.Whoever says he advises enhanced athletes only is probably a DYEL weakling who followed his advice but pulled a muscle or didn't train hard enough and decided to start hating. >Dr. Layne NortonNo idea but if he's a Dr. then I would be inclined to listen to him and then use personal experience, logic and scientific research to evaluate his advice.>Greg DoucetteProbably a psychopath. Would not recommend.>Athlean XIs generally a liar about some of his claims (PRs, height/weight/stats, also a copycat and very misleading sometimes, etc.) but he's still educated with experience and while some of his advice is solid, the rest remains to be true. I would tread carefully and not take his word for 90% of the shit he says.>Scooby (Honorable mention)Top dog. Worth looking for his old blog and backtracking his old posts and vids which are still around somewhere.
>>71079472Based and Redpilled. I unironically prefer him when he's off his meds. He also hates Indians.
>>71075605>mike israetel>israetel>israelw-wait what?
>>71077742He's North African and Spanish, and he lives in Alaska.
>>71079266He makes fun of the raw carnivore diet saying that it is not based in science.
>>71079916thought so, also looks like he has a bit of chinky in himcurious what brought him to alaska
>>71079929It's not. Good to know I can disregard you now
>>71079916When did he get doxxed?
none i get my lifting advice from what my body tells me and how it reacts to diet and lifts
>>71080476I figured he was French Canadian, so part Indian ancestry. If he’s not, it’s weird that he ended up in Alaska
>>71080547No he grew up in France. I think he moved for university and then stayed.
>>71080514Never, it's all stuff he's said. He's mentioned having family in Spain and having North African ancestry, but you can tell that just from looking at him. As for living in Alaska, he's mentioned that he lives in the US but has also talked about it being extremely cold and dark where he lives for large portions of the year, and the only part of the US that's like that is Alaska.
posted without comment. make your own conclusionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWsIJeVcsI
