Weigh in edition>Who is /fat/ for?For lardy lumps who are working towards a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros) or LoseIt (great for both).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per lb of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and burn fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body burning away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gyno & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>70298415
Apparently I'm a genetic freak that can recomp five weeks into a 1200 calorie deficit. I'm so confused.
>>70311226what is a recomp
I have a set of dumbbells, can anyone give me a little workout plan that I can do with them at home?
>>70311226are you actually measuring muscle mass? if not it's probably just noob gains
does 1pl8 = bar (20kg/44lbs) + 1 plate each side (20kg/44lbs)or is it bar + 25kg/55lbs plates?
>>70311093I weigh everything - including sauces. I don't eat back exercise calories as that's just stupid.You've very clearly missed the point about my watch and 'exercise calories'. Sure, what the watch says is X might not actually be, but, if I say my average is like 450-500 and then I have a week of 1000+ then that shows that I've clearly done more.Eating 6000 calories lmao
>>70311263>A plate at the gym for weightlifting weighs 45 poundsSo 20kg
>>70311272but 25kg plates exist
>>7031128525kg plus 15kg will give you 2pl8
>>703112912 25kg is also 2pl8 then?
>>70311256Basically I was lifting got almost up to a LMAO 2 plate deadlift, then stopped and over the next 7 months gained 40 pounds. So I gained fat but maintained my muscle. So now I lose 12 pounds in a month and have exceeded my 2 plate deadlift by 20 pounds. So I didn't lose muscle I've gained. That's not all I can feel more muscle structure in my upper chest and arms. My bench is going up. Hell I'm 40 years old and I've never experienced noob gains like this. It is very strange.
>>70311302One plate = bar plus two 20kg platesTwo late = bar plus 4 20kg plates Etc
>>70311235Well if they are small use them to hold when you are on the treadmill or stationary bike. That's what I used my 10lb ones for. Unless you are very weak and can't curl them.
>>70311271There are 3500 calories in a pound of fat. You tell me you gained a kg of weight. That means somewhere you ate over 6000 extra kcal. That's a fact. Don't make excuses and say you didn't. No way that is water weight. You are screwing up big time. Your job is to figure out what you are doing wrong. I said what I think it is. Investigate other options and prove it.
>>70311321they're like this adjustable 20kg set.so I can like load everything on 1 for really heavy or I can split them so they're both 10kg each.I think 10kg is the max I can do a basic curl with?
>>70311302No, because that's 50kg per end, it's over 2 plates
>>70311337But it's spread onto 2 plates each side, therefore 2pl8
Fatty contestFanegas104.4 kg
>>70311335Plenty of exercises on YouTube with them. I personally think they are kind of useless vs a barbell. But you can certainly do one arm curls, rows, and presses. Though hard without a bench.
>>70311203I just did an hour on the bike, apparently it was 20km, I will break this bitch ass plateau.
>>70311350No you retard, 2pl8 is a specific weight, 2x45lbs/20kg per side, to total 100kg.You could be lifting 2pl8 with 4x10lb plates per side for the same weight.
>>70311357There are no plateaus. There is water weight and not properly counting food or recording exercise. The in-between is with the people crying about their thyroid and how diabetes and insulin resistance makes them gain weight. It doesn't. It makes you hungry! The extra food makes you gain like everyone else.
Is it gay to feel your own ass get tighter as you lose weight and gain muscle?
>>70311386It's only gay if you're getting fucked anon
>>70311399Yeah not gay then cause I'm forever alone mode.
>>70311386yes, that is gay. you must gain the weight back.
>>70311435But I'm losing weight fast enough that my obese male ass is starting to look like a girls.
>>70311456>ass stops leaking>bros is this normal?
Enjoying my weekly can of red bull and noticed I'm still 100 calories under what I expected to do today and already had my shrimp to finish the day with. Comforting thought I could still have a snack
>>70311467>tfw you bank calories for a week to have a large dinner
>>70311476No better feel than being able to afford a beer or three on the weekend because you've been diligently saving up calories on weekdays.
>>70311504They think you are having a cheat meal. In reality you starved for 6 days to be able to eat this. It wasn't worth it, but you do it again eventually.
>had friends over last saturday>birthday on tuesday, had some cake>out with colleagues on wedensday, drank more than i intendedstill down 0,9 kg
>>70311518Not him, but when you fill up on shit like pickles it doesn't feel like starving as long as I have like 200-250 grams of protein during the day. On one day during the week I even went below 500 calories and it didn't even feel like starving. Eating lots of pickles is like a cheatcode and seafood for proteins too
Is losing around 1kg per week too fast?
>no friends>no job>not losing weight
>>70311556I've found high salt intake on a cut decreases cravings. Pickles have a lot of sodium so it does the same thing.
>>70311578I suspected that
>>703115591.5kg is really the upper limit in my eyes. I do 1.134 kg or 2.5 pounds a week.
>>70311582It is something to do with how fat burns off and is replaced by water. If you make it easier for the body to retain water it doesn't need to crave these things.
>>70311572>>70311587Thx. here my progress, just started month ago.
>>70311621good stuff, dont get discouraged if it slows down, the first month is always the "easiest".
>>7031162120:4 IF, OMAD on weekend, walk more.No weight lifting or calisthenics.
fatty contest bigpacific304.6lbs
>>70311621One of the cool things about weight loss is often you will see the scale not moving much for a couple days. You quickly realize it makes no sense and it is water weight. The body trys to hold onto this water then eventually it gives up and dumps it all giving you a big weight drop. I now look forward to the scale not moving. Cause I know I only ate 1500 calories a day. You can't fool me water!
>thinking banking calories worksno it just fucks with your metabolism
>muh metabolism cope
skipped last weeks weigh-in because no progress. may have to do the same for this week
>>70311684So you really think there is a difference if I eat 1500 for two days vs 1400 and 1600? There is no difference at all. You can eat 1400 calories for 6 days and then eat 2100 calories on day 7. You still average 1500 calories. Your body doesn't care when you eat. Heck last week I stayed up way too long and slept very long. Ended up with about 2 hrs left in the day and 1500 calories to eat. Ended up eating 2900 calories in about 8hrs then went back to bed. Still lost weight that week.
>>70311756I had no progress for one of my weigh ins also. Because I ate a pizza and it had a lot of sodium. So had to delay my weigh in 2 days. Then I lost 2 pounds.
Fatty Contestxsept91.0 kg
>all this fucking cope
Fatty ContestFatverick 276.8lbsman that plateau was killing me, can't get complacent this time around.
>>70311849No that's my love life. Fat is denial not cope.
>lost nothing this weekSure it's just water weight, I lost 5lbs over the previous 2 weeks.
>>703119365lbs is pretty excessive for a 2 week period, explains why you didn't lose anything this week, it's just balancing outyou'll be at a steady rate next week
>took a maintenance break>4 weeks>try to eat at a small deficit I imagine>can't do much cardio>exact same weight>somehow everyone keeps telling me I still lost weight>told that I look skinnier both face and body>waist got 1 inch smaller too>barely even liftingDid I lose muscle? Negative body recomp?
>>70311946Yeah. When I started at 270lbs I would consistently lose 1-3 lbs a week. But now I'm 190 I seem to go between gaining very small amounts (like 0.2lb), stalling, and then suddenly dropping 2.5lbs for 2 weeks then back to 3 weeks of stalling.I'm assuming it's just less consistent now I'm not obese
>>70312007nah people are just weird sometimes and only start noticing past cuts very late, I've had it happen to me too
>>70311203150kg to now 95kg, how bad will the loose skin be bros
Guys, I need a bit advice. Lost about 8 kilos. I'm 180 cm, was 113kg, now I'm 105 kg. As a teen I had some eating disorders, so. it's hard to lose weight. Everyone says, "oh dieting is easy, just cut 500 calories out of your diet" And you're like, sure, I could do that. But then I start thinking about how half a kilo isn't much, and wouldn't it be nice, if I gave myself some leeway? Like what if I aimed for 1000 calories instead of 1500? That way if I miscalculate or eat too much, I can still lose weight.Then obviously, you're like, holy shit, 1000 calories is a LOT. And you burn like ~2000 calories every day, even lying in bed all day. All you need to do is not eat for 2 fucking days to lose half a kilo. And there we are. My best friend Ana, giving me a warm embrace and welcoming me back. Can we just pretend I'm doing a longer fast or something? Thanks.I mostly abuse sleeping pills and xanax this time. If i'm hungry. I hit the pills, and knock myself out for the day. Sparing myself thousands of calories. But hey, it works. I plan on not eating for 4 days minimum. I'm was wondering if anyone has any tips. How to suppress my appetite. Or just general knowledge.>also ignore them titties, they're solely the result of obesity and not anything else.
>>70312531Lose more weight and go to the gax8ym
>volcano menu coming backBros I gotta lose an extra 5 pounds now. Cause I will eat my weight in this when it comes out in June
>>70312537did i post this
>>70312544gawd dayum i am retarded.
>>70312151already looks pretty bad ngl
>>70311652>pic related is me and my scale every day I’ve been perfect with my OMAD the last 3 weeks. A nice weight loss is cool. But I wanna throw my scale out the window when it shows the exact weight from yesterday. Eventually it comes around.
Fatty ContestFridgerator302 lbs
>>70312531You are abusing drugs that will fuck up your looks and your mental well being. I guess stop taking it and start eating good food instead of abusing drugs. So eat low calorie meals like Salad (No dressing) and ofcourse fruits because the better you treat your body the better your body will treat you.
Fatty ContestGumGolem237.5 lbs
Up a bit of weight this morning but I can't really be upset. Got to go to ny favorite restaurant last night, had foie gras with a lingonberry and lemon zest reduction over brioche "steam buns", rabbit leg prepared like coq au vin, and a cinnamon roll with the lingonberry and lemon zest reduction topped with gelato. Back to sad diet foods now though.
>>70312873>grayplasticaddictFellow warhammer fan?
>>70311375NTA. How do you get rid if water weight? I've been stuck at this weight forever. I don't feel like I'm eating too much because I'm not gaining and I can't recover for shit from my workouts despite eating sufficient protein and getting good sleep.
>>70312887Exactly that. Weather hasn't been good for priming, so I've been chipping away at assembling some infantry. Pretty chill with a podcast on.
>>70312894Also nta but my experience is you should see a rapid decrease when you first restrict your calories, and carbs in particular. Both times I have restricted calories after a long period of maintenance, my weight has shot down 5 or more lbs in a week, before settling into the typical expected results for a given deficit (I was doing 1300 calories / 1000 calorie deficit so about 2lbs a week).
Fatty ContestWAGMIF1150.1kgSo frustrating not to go below 150 but progress nonetheless. Down from 155 since the 26th of February, so otherwise great progress.
Fatty Contestsome-random-dude285.8 lbs
>>70312671Fookin luv me that old school inked rpg art. That rose breast plate is sick m8. U just know that guy fucks.
>>70312909I spent a bunch of time converting a hellstalker into an onager dune crawler, and a skitarii with a welding mask and an oxy acetylene torch making repairs on an actual dune crawler, but lost motivation afterwards and haven't touched anything in months.
>>70313031Having extra small guys working/part of the scenery for bigger models is kino. Sounds awesome.I feel that. I had a multi month stretch where I lost any motivation. Making some friends at my LGS and setting goals helped kickstart getting back into it.
>>70312585>You are abusing drugs that will fuck up your looks and your mental well beingI think being fat is fucks it up worse, but I agree and see your point. I only plan on doing this until I reach about 90 kilos. Maybe more. 95.>So eat low calorie meals like Salad (No dressing) and ofcourse fruits because the better you treat your body the better your body will treat you.Sorry I can't do that. I don't eat any vegetables. Except caramelized onions, garlic and ketchup. The rest taste extremely bitter to me. Especially lettuce. Broccoli. Anything green. I don't eat fruit either. I have to take vitamin C every few days to stave off deficiencies. Fun story, one time my wounds weren't healing, I had sharp stabbing pains all over my body constantly. It was getting worse and worse. I didn't know what was wrong with me. Until I did some googling and found out it might be vitamin C deficiency. So I told my dad, and he bought a giant bag of tangerines and oranges. I ate them. By the next day the sharp pains stopped entirely. And my body started healing in a few days.So basically I almost gave myself scurvy.I mostly live on baked stuff, bread (sandwiches) some butter, a bit of meat and cheese. Also dairy products. Half my calories I eat every day are from milk, chocolate milk, milk with coffee, etc I don't care that I have to eat less of other things, because they're so calorie dense. At least they bring me joy. Vegetables do not. Would rather starve to death. Most fruit repels me also. Except maybe sweet tangerines, bananas, kiwis and sweet apples. That one I also find really odd. Humans started out as frugivores.We sometimes have fruits in the house. During the summer strawberries from our garden. Cherries from relatives. At autumn grapes.I walk past by them every day. Until they inevitably rot, and we have to toss em. I don't know what's wrong with me.
>>70312531>If i'm hungry. I hit the pills, and knock myself out for the day.Honestly kinda based. I am schizophrenic but I mostly ignore my meds because antipscyhotics dull me down and make me sleepy, but they also make fasting so very very trivial. I sleep for 14 hours and spend the other 10 in a far away place where hunger is a mere suggestion rather than a craving. My only worry is, doesn't the state of low low activity your sleeping pills/my antipsychotics bring about mean we burn far fewer calories than we otherwise would? Persevering and fasting with a normal activity level would surely burn more.
Fatty Contestiwannaflyhigh132.5 lbsI switched to a gastroparesis friendly diet. Not even for weight loss, but i am losing weight again. Im feeling significantly less ass and no longer having reflux. Gonna tell my doc today. I dontnknow if i have that disease but i dont really care, not goving this diet up. Hopefully it doesnt give me a deficicency and if it does we catch it.
>>70311331You're being over zealous, it could very well be water weight. If it isn't, he will be the one to feel it. If that trend continues over another week than yes, anon is certainly bullshitting himself.
>>70313094lmao what a coincidence, my post is right after another ARFIDer. Been there. Youll be fine. I had a diet like that most my life (i was on a multi tho). As long as your doc knows and works with you you can continue to eat that way. You also can get better. I chose the get better route, but ironically, have gone back to my old diet (with some changes) for health reasons lmao. Kinda pissed me off at first, but im laffin now. God is a comedian.
>>70313199>Persevering and fasting with a normal activity level would surely burn more.Yes but iirc the difference is small unless youre going from athlete to couch potato; the vast majority of cals people burn are for body upkeep.Your metabolism may drop significantly over the coming weeks tho. But ive known too many anoresics who got skinny lying around all day to believe it matters.
>>70312531>also ignore them titties, they're solely the result of obesity and not anything else.lost another Anna to nonbinarism againjust dont grow up to be a twat about it like jude karda pls
>>70313094You have problems deeper than a calorie surplus. Read the sticky, probably talk to your doctor. Seriously, no amount of advice here will help a person with this mindset.
Am i losing weight?
>>70313357Up your deficit, fatty.
>>70313357lol nice troll
If my goal is 2000 calories a day and I eat 2500 calories one day. Will those extra 500 calories carry on over until I eat 500 calories less even if it takes let's just say 1 month? I know I can exercise more and shit but this is just a dumb question I was thinking about.
>>70313582what? the 500 calorie surplus goes away over time as long as you have a deficit.
>>70313363>>70313491>>70313580I was 211 in dec. 17. Guess my loss stalledWas doing 2080 cal per day with 150g protein/day, and playing hockey 5 days/week. Will go down to 1800 cal per day and see what happens
>>70313626>167.3kg>178cmdamn nigga might as well bulk up until you get to 1kg per cm.
>>70313675Been there, done thatMax was 196kg
>>70313721damn dude, Im youre height and highest was 110kg and I felt like garbage. double that is insane, how did you get that high?
FattyContestSquilliam282.5lbs Fell off the wagon this past few weeks here’s to getting back on
>>70313735Eating like a pig for half my life and not knowing the word 'self-restraint'Went from 196kg to 78kg to 90kg to 80kg to 110kg to 140kg to 110kg to 185kg to 148kg to 172kg over ten years. It's easy putting weight back on if you know 'yeah, I can lose it' because you already did before. Still sucks, going to take me a year at least to get to human proportions.
Get up, go workoutUse this beautiful saturday to get gains.Wagmi
Coming off a 36 hr fast and just put some delicious McDonald's sausage egg mcmuffins in me to fuel my workout. Life is good getting lean
>>70313094This post really makes me laugh. Can't believe people are like this. Has to be mostly because they could afford to be picky as a kid and it made them deranged as an adult. All vegetables are not bitter. Have you ever had soup? Boiled onion, potato, carrots? Just so strange to me. Maybe laugh is the wrong word. You are just entertainment like a joker of the court.
>>70313875It's gross an rainy out but I will be going for a short run in a few hours.Gotta take advantage of every weekend I can before it really warms up and the insects and tourists come out.
>>70313199Seems like you need better meds that don't make you as tired.
>>70313582You must not have read the thread because this was addressed. Basically the body don't care when you got the calories. Or when you lost them. It is all cumulative.
why do I always get super bloated when I go on a diet ffs
>>70313998Cause you change what you eat vs just reducing what you like to eat.
>>70311203I've been trying to build some muscle before pushing 15% bodyfat. Before the calculator was giving me 17% (actually probably more like 20-22%). Since then i've gained 10 pounds and the calc is still saying 17%. Am I safe in assuming that was mostly muscle gain? It's pretty noticeable in my chest and shoulders. Either way my cut starts Monday. Going to get one more day of proper lifting in tomorrow before going hard.
>>70313307I have no idea whom you're talking about or what nonbinarism has to do anything with it.If you want to know the truth, I a transwoman. 34 years old, I've been taking anti-androgens and estrogen for 12 years now. I was thin all my life, until the age of 20, where I weighed 70-72 kilos. That was literally perfect. It's my final goal weight. Never felt or looked better. It was after 21 that I started getting fat, (because I hated my body so much)I didn't say this, because I thought it wasn't relevant to the discussion at hand. However. Now that the cat's out of the bag. How much loose skin and grossness will I have after 14 years of carrying 30-40 plus kilos?
>>70314031Gaining 10 pounds of muscle is really hard. More likely you gained 2 pounds of muscle and 8 pounds of fat. Just that the body looks a lot better with limited muscles. The old skinny fat dilemma.
>>70314041You can tighten loose skin as you lose it with exercise, mostly strength training, but cardio also helps. If you do diet alone that is what gets the worst loose skin.
I need beer. I think I'll get a couple cold ones I earned it this week.
>>70311203Literally just do this bros. Download Lose It appDownload Six Pack in 30 days Mark down what you eat with the weight loss plan you have. Stop drinking sodas (even diet, use seltzer if you have bubbly cravings) reduce smoking for aerobics. Work out via the 6 pack in 30 days 5 days a week, Monday, Tuesday (rest) Thursday, Friday, Saturday (rest). Mark down literally everything you put in your face; since you are now working out 5 times a week, your lifestyle is considered moderate; if you want to lose weight proper, set your diet to moderate, if you want to cut and juggle, set your diet to sedantary despite living a moderate activity lifestyle. I started October 22, 2022 at 273, 6 foot 4, pack a day smoker; and as of today 5 months later, currently at 232 and one cigarette a day (night cap smoker as a treat for making it through another day) My calories per day are roughly 1300-1600 a day, of which are 40% ratio Protein, 35% Fat, and 25% Carbs; I'm currently losing a stable 2.5 pounds a week. From basically just fucking pacing myself and disciplining my diet. Learn to love the following: Eggs+Cheese+Tuna+Greek Yogurt+Seltzers. A neat way to get your calories and have a nice treat is to mix in two scoops of Muscle Milk with 2 cups of skim milk, toss it into a blender. You just made a delicious brownie smoothie that is low on carbs and high on protein. Initially avoid anything with processed sugar; no soda, no juices, no corn syrup. then reintroduce fructose and glucose via fruits, veggies, and your delicious protein bars and muscle milk powder. If you want to go uber kino, take this in the morning with your breakfast. (Mine is Zero Sugar Greek Yogurt+two slices of Chicken breast+Skim Mozzarella stick with Green Tea; ) Caffeine+Ginsieng+Taurine+ GuaranaThese are your four basic ingredients in an energy drink, without the sugar. It'll suck for the first 20 days, but its worth it bros.
>>70314076You earned a kick in the ass. You are now a soldier and fat is the enemy. Do not come here to tell us your cheats and failings before you do them. That's not confession. That's justification.
>>70314097I'm also losing 2.5 pounds a week on a 1500 calorie diet, but I eat more carbs.
>>70313582Think of it like a bank account. Your weight * 3500 is the calories you have in savings. Your TDEE is the bills you have to pay out daily and the food you eat is your paycheck. If you eat at maintenance your savings go untouched. If you eat below you have to dip into the savings. If you eat above the bill gets paid and any extra goes into your account.
I have had 1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water morning and evening now for a few days, and damn, it supresses hunger real good.It's also like 2-3$ a bottle for the unfiltered one that contains "Mother", not the goyslop ones.I recommend giving it a try if you are doing omad but get hungry.
>>70314144Just up your salt. No need for vinegar.
Fatty ContestTheFryingDutchman178.8 lbs
>>70314165Already eat alot of salt. And I'm gonna keep drinking my ACV until I reach my goal weight.
>>70314213How are you eating a lot of salt if you are doing omad? A person in a heavy cut would benefit from double the average sodium or around 4000mg a day.
>>70314262I like salt and fat more then carbs, so salt and fat content is high with lower carbs.I also eat some salted & roasted peanuts, wich is quite salty.
>>70313974Sounds like I need no meds at all tbqh senpai. Unmedicated I can perceive and combat all the world's evils, from pedophile jews to seed oils. I prefer it this way.
Well /fit6'1'' 200 lbsI can bench more than my body weight but never do cardio. Gf made me go to this 5K event with her this morning.Am I going to make it?
Lost 5 kg, still 5 to go. I start noticing thinking about food and feeling hungry most of the time. It's not too bad but makes it annoying to focus on some other stuff throughout the day. Anyone had this?
>>70314284You are mentally ill and need medication. Sorry, but that is how it is. I'm similar with auto immune disorders. Just our lot in life.
>>70314331Absolutely. I think of the food I'll eat tomorrow and the day after before I fall asleep. I constantly rearrange calories to achieve the most deliciousness for my buck. Aye it's not healthy, but neither is being a fat slob.
>>70314331I don't really get hungry until I have indecision over what food I'm making.
>>70314368The difference between you and me, friend, is that my disease can be exploited to achieve interesting insights and generally entertain my mind, which is what I'm trying to do. I know it's dangerous and believe me, I don't want to get institutionalized again, but I try to play the hand I'm dealt the best I can.
Fatty ContestPorkChop319.6 lbs
My hands are so bony to me since losing weight but I’m not even skinny yetIs this normal
>>70314418Absolutely. If you had high bf% but low muscle then some parts of your body will betray your skeleton nature once you begin losing weight. The human body is a stubborn thing, so it will continue keeping fat on your gut at the expense of other body parts.
>>70314404That makes it sound like you are an addict. Reducing dosages to encourage chemical imbalance. Like the opposite of a drug user needing the drug to cause the imbalance.
>>70314443If being addicted to the occasional spark of your warped mind is wrong, then I have no desire to be right.
>>70314418i quite like just touching my body where i can now feel bone/muscle, where once it was just fat. i like when i lie down and my stomach doesn't bulge out from my chest, instead it dips where my stomach is now. one day i'll have an adonis belt
>>70314418>>70314440Yeah the body is protecting its core and trying to maintain heat there. Ancestors freezing to death will do that.
>>70311849Coping about what? Bettering yourself and losing weight? Get the fuck outta here, Crab-tan.
>>70313780>Went from 196kg to 78kg to 90kg to 80kg to 110kg to 140kg to 110kg to 185kg to 148kg to 172kg over ten yearswew that loose skin must be crazy
>be me >come to /fat>realize people have all these mental issues and complications >people doing all these strange diets >I literally just eat too much pasta >Decrease pasta intake, lose weight>kind of worried because it was too simple
>>70313969Running in the rain is the ultimate mog
>>70314097>Download Six Pack in 30 daysjust did, lets see how this goes.
>>70314690We all have 6 packs. Just that curtain of fat covering it that can't be removed in 30 days unless you already skinny.
>>70314673Hey, if it's that simple for you, it means you're doing a lot right already. Glad to hear that's working out for you.
>>70314673good for youI didn’t have any particular food that could do that for me
>>70314306>6'1 200lb>bench probably ~225I don't think you're fat, anon
>>70314733>>70314721I just love pasta. I already make all my own meals. Don't drink pop. Eat junk on occasion, but mainly it was my own baked goods that had an effect. Not like I made cookies every day. But pasta was at least 3 or 4 days a week.
I'm starting to reuse the same recipes too often, anyone have any suggestions for dinner with either ground beef or chicken?I usually doBreakfast/lunch: Either scrambled eggs with chunks of ham OR protein pancakes OR protein oatmeal. Dinner: Chicken breast with random spices and rice OR Chicken fajitas OR Burritos OR burger patties (no bun) with rice OR chiliSnacks randomly throughout the night: Protein shake and/or homemade protein bar and/or hard-boiled eggs and/or random low-calorie dense stuff (like smartpop) depending on calorie allowance/how much protein I still needI'm pretty happy with my lunches (tbH I ate eggs for like 5 years straight and I never really got tired of them), but I'm getting a bit tired of my dinners, plus with fajitas and burritos I lose a lot of calories to just wraps. Not a fan of cooking for very long (as you can probably tell) so if it can be easily prepped all at once on sundays, even better.
>>70314951I'm making cajun chicken pasta today.
>>70314733For me it was beer because if I get. 6 pack I'm drinking the whole thing and then I'm drunk and need pizza or other delivery.Cutting down the beer (only sipping on wknds and having food on hand so I don't have to order out to avoid a DUI) did wonders.
>>70314992>800 calories of pastabrother your dinner is close to 80% of my daily calories
I give up.I'll never lose weight.Fasting, eating just one egg daily, eating only 200g of meat daily... nothing works, I tried it all.The fat just won't go away.I'll probably kms soon as I'm also ugly and I have a small penis.I'm already 32, it's overGod truly and undeniably hates me.
>>70315013how about counting calories, piggy?
>>70315013U could accept it can be a slow process and don't need results overnight or resort to extremes like fasting (but for me I found out fasting works for me more than trying am extreme calorie deficit each day) or you can just give up. It's up to you
>>70315007Yeah it is kind of an omad meal for me. 91.5% of mine. Should just throw in more cheese and butter to get me to 1500 calories.
>>70315013Why then has counting calories and eating 1500 calories a day got me down 13 pounds in a little over a month? But forget about that. If I keep it up I'll go from 260 pounds to 205 pounds in 6 months. Then to 170 pounds in another 5 months. This is a long game. You didn't get fat overnight and you won't lose it overnight.
I'm confused about sedentary TDEE. If you don't leave your house all day and don't do any exercise of any kind, aren't you actually just using a little over your BMR worth of energy? To sit upright and shit. My BMR is 1850 and my sed tdee is 2250 but I can't see laying around all day being the equivalent of a 4 mile walk. Also google fit pisses me off. That app gives you a running calorie tally throughout the day, which uses BMR rather than any other calculation. The other day I hiked 25 miles in the hills, about 1000m total climbing and it told me I burned 2800 calories that day. Fucking useless
>>70315031read again.Do you think I'm eating over 2000 calories fasting? eating one egg daily? 200g of meat?>>70315032I started in October.>>70315104I put 50 lbs in 3 months.I didn't lose 50 lbs in 6 months.My BMR must be like 400 calories daily.
>>70315127>>70315139http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.htmlGive me your number for little or no exercise
Those pics were taken only 3 weeks apart. 3 weeks(left images are from today). In 3 fucking weeks taking this shit serious and the results are already so much noticeable. I was even fatter before, been on the journey for 3 months, but these past few weeks weight loss skyrocketed for some reason.Thanks for reading my blog and believe in your dreams (and legs) anons. You can do it.>captcha: FPHDDA
>go through week only eating lunch and a small dinner >weigh 191.1>excited to see progress today>shit, piss, strip clothes>weigh 192.2Bros, this is really demoralizing, granted I’ve been working out and doing no cardio plus I haven’t been to the gym in a couple days but there’s no way that would account for such an increase, what should I do?
>>70315169>Give me your number for little or no exercise2093Eating that is what made me gain 50 pounds in 3 months
>>70315173whats your height weight and how much are u eating
>>70315173Congrads on your progress. >>70315200Ever watch the biggest loser? They aren't allowed to weigh themselves until the big group weigh in. Do that. Only weigh yourself once a week or once every two weeks. Like a contest. Because caring about the scale day to day is just a waste of time. This is a long run not a short march.
>>70315224But it’s not day to day, last time I weighed myself was like 5 days ago.It could be water weight but 2 pounds?
>>70315207Okay I see your problem then. Put simply you are going to have a hard time at this given the numbers. For example my tdee is 2700 and I eat 1500 giving me a 1200 calorie deficit. For you to do the same you would have to eat only 900 calories a day. But here is what I suggest. Eat 1400 calories a day. It will be hard but you will lose 1.4 pounds a week. If you exercise do not tally or care about your calories. Just continue to eat 1400 calories every day. This is a long term program. It will take you many months to lose significant weight. But it is better than killing yourself.
>>70315219Im 5’8, and i have no idea of my weight today. I was with 90kg when I started (not in this pic tho, I’m both of them), and the drugstore where I used to go that had a scale closed, so I stopped weighting myself. It’s not my first weightloss journey, but I certainly lost 10+ Kg In these 3 months, so I would guess that my weight in those final pics is around 78~80kg. I eat 2 meals a day, almost no sugar, very few carbs, and a lot of meat (chicken, fish, red meat, whatever it moves I’m eating). I drink a lot of green tea, helps a lot with sugar cravings and it tastes/feels good. I drink alcohol maximum once a week, and is usually on days that I skateboard and walk a lot around town, so it’s fine.I lift 4~5 times a week, PPL routine that I do with dumbbells at home. I walk almost everyday and I play soccer 2 times a week, sometimes I will skateboard too (yesterday I’ve skated for like 4h straight, that shit probably burned me 1000 cals +). I’ve always enjoyed practicing sports, i was fat due to REALLY bad food habits. Losing weight is almost fun to me. And I’m doing it all to perform better at the sports that I enjoy (and to look better/healthier too, of course), so that’s way I’m not bothering too much with the actual numbers on the scale. I just want to feel better when doing the things that I enjoy, and I already can feel the results a lot (can run a entirely 1:30 hour soccer game, more nimble, less lethargic overall). Sometimes the /sp/ pill is better then the /fit/ pill, but is even better when you can make both work together alongside.
>>70315263Don't get hung up on the scale. Do something about it. Count your calories with more autism. Exercise harder. Eat less. The scale is what it is. Do what you can go change the number the next time.
>>70315127Download adaptive TDEE calculator, track your calories and daily weight for 3 weeks, know your actual TDEE instead of le internet number.
>>70315169>>70315207>>70315272sorry, it's 2245I put 5'1 instead of 5'11
>>70315295> Sometimes the /sp/ pill is better then the /fit/ pill, but is even better when you can make both work together alongside.Absolutely based mindset. You definetly gonna make it anon. Already looking good IMO, you have a nice large frame. Godspeed.
>>70315272>Eat 1400 calories a dayI'm eating way less than that (or not at all) and I'm not losing anything.
Fuck it I'm going full retard on the coffee lads.It's either heart attack or weight loss.I put a single sugar cube usually and sometimes little cold milk to down it faster.I don't know about the faster metabolism but it just werks for the appetite suppression like a magic potion.
>>70315169>http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html2287 for me, the walkpilled anon, although i dont know if you meant to reply to me or not>>70315340Thanks, I'll give it a shot
>>70315127I mean your sed tdee might not exactly be that high but theres a big difference between moving from time to time all day vs not moving at all (basically sleeping). Even if youre sitting 99% of the day (unrealistic since you need to pee and get food and water and do chores) youre still probably moving your arms and head and back from time to time over the course of 16 hours.
>>70315376Don’t put sugar or anything you dumbass drink it BLACK. Once you get used to black coffee, sugary coffee feels DISGUSTING. If you going to drink coffee with sugar might just go ahead and drink energy drinks or coke either. Coffee with sugar and black coffee are literally 2 different beverages, the taste is so different.
>>70314715I think his point is to get on a program, plus you still need to work out your abs, they wont be defined even if you get skinny, two birds one stone.
>>70315372Don't fucking bullshit me. You're lying to yourself if you think you are actually eating that and not losing weight. Unless you are some 5 foot twink it just isn't possible. Get mad, count your calories better and don't you dare count exercise. >>70315361Even easier than for you to lose.
>>70315399Your both close enough to 2100 calories that the same advice still applies.
>>70315410Cream or milk is the only proper addition to coffee.Anyways cottage cheese bro checking in. Rough day at work yesterday. Told my boss to f off and "quit" (which just means I'll see him Monday). Got home and lied in bed for 2 hours and still checked out of bed and went to the gym and try and get my head clear. Weighed in at 285 this morning. Today I have a wedding to go to but I'll try and keep the eating light.
>>70311203i ate 800 calories today and i feel like shit because of it
>>70315372I always wonder if people like you actually believe that or if you get something out of lying on the internet
>>70311235not a plan but here's some exercises you can do with them (that I also do):Triceps extensionsBiceps curlsSvend pressLat raises ShrugsSquats, duhIf you put the weights in a bag or something you can hold with your feet you can also do weighted leg raisesIf you want to hit a certain muscle unironically just google "[body part] dumbbell"
>>70315440It is probably just a troll. Annoying none the less because you know people lie to themselves with this stuff all the time.
That tdee calculator can't be correct. It says I need 3k calories a day for no exercise. And I def eat way less than that plus ozempic plus exercise and im only losing 2-3 pounds a week. Lol
>>70315560>only losing 2-3 pounds a weekthat's minus 1000 to 1500 calories/day. if your tdee is really 3000 you're probably grossly obese, so even 1500 daily calories would be surprising.
>>70315560Why would it be incorrect? A 170 pound 6 feet man needs around 2200 calories. Double that weight and we are looking at 3600. People just really underestimate how many calories they eat.
>>70315964Is this really 226g of dry pasta? Are you sure you are logging correctly
>>70315169My TDEE is around 3500kcal per dayKek I’m almost on a 3k cut
Only one pound to healthy bmi, without meme diets, just smaller portions and bit of exercise every day, good mood today
>>70316293The log is correct but the plate only holds about 60% of the meal I made.
>>70316347God damn, looks delicious either way anon.
>>70316347Actually I should have said the log is mostly correct. This is the final version.
So recent health issues make exercise pretty hard (long story but its not fat related) and essentially all I can do is walk and light lifting. 30min of walking is only like 150cal and I dont wanna treadmill for 2 fuckin hours. I'm already eating clean smaller meals, but I cant really do fasting because medication needs to be taken with food. Should I just eat even smaller amounts?
>>70315440>>70315468I'm not lying.I tried every thing, to no avail..
>>70316358Also not included is a chicken boulin cube. What I did was air fried the thigh for 10 minutes as I cooked the onions with butter and pam. Cut the chicken up (parts were pink near the bone). Added 2.5 cups of water and the chicken boulin cube with the onions, mixed in the chicken. Added spices / red hot and let that boil and reduce. Cooked the noodles separate. If too much sauce either let it reduce more or add a tiny bit of flour or corn starch. Then add the noodles. Added more red hot to make it hotter. Put on dish with grated parmesano.
Is Coke Zero a fucking meme?I always hated diet soda because whatever shit they put in instead of the sugar is actually SWEETER than the regular one, which makes it disgusting.However, during my diet I sometimes do crave a little bit of "the old stuff" - should I use the diet version instead of the regular one? Will it give me cancer? Is it a meme?
>>70316408Then it is just really hard to believe you, anon. If you are serious then I would put myself on a super restrictive 1000 calorie diet. No exercise. Weigh all food to the gram with a kitchen scale. Convert to ounces if need be. Increase by 100 calories every 3 weeks until you hit 1500 and stay there. Weigh yourself daily. Log all this and find out when you stop losing weight.
>Used to stomach 3000 calories in one sitting like it was just an afternoon snack >Now feel gross for eating 1500 calories in one day
>>70316429Anon say it with me:WATER That is the only thing /fat/ citizens are allowed to drink. You want a protein shake you mix it with WATER. You thirsty you drink WATER. The only thing you should be asking about your water is tap, filtered, distilled or spring.
>>70316476You get used to it. Eventually we all got to bulk to lose the fat and put on muscle.
>>70316488Other than your blatant elitism I didn't get much information on my questionAlso I will never ask you about water, since there's only one possible answer in my country (which is bottled, and from quality brands too)
>>70316508How about no Coke Zero. That's your answer.
>>70316508Anon's here typically struggle with temptations when they're starting out, and anything sweet can get them back into habits they're trying to break (like a gateway stimulus for drug addiction, it's very similar). It shouldn't be surprising you get a recommendation to drop the goydrink because if you struggle with sweets, even though it's zero calorie, it could create a trigger/binge situation. Yes, the diet one is better.
>>70316488what if i don't eat anything and instead i just drink zero sugar monsters and water?
>>70316584I guess you would die in a few weeks. Just eat your 1500 calories a day in food like the rest of us and slowly lose weight. It isn't that hard.
>>70316564So assuming I can control my "sweet tooth" (I'm not one for sweets anyways) I should be fine with coke zero every now and then?
>>70316429what the hell do you even mean by "meme" in this scenario? it's fine. don't listen to the idiots fear mongering about artificial sweeteners, there are literally hundreds of studies, including RCTs (ON ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS) proving that they're perfectly safe and that people who do nothing but replace soda with diet soda lose weight, sometimes even slightly more than those who drink only water because the diet soda helps with cravings.
>>70316319height and weight? I think I'd find it easier to just fast than eat 500 a day personally
Fatty ContestEndless119.6kgWhen binge meets whoosh. Been a weird week, the days I lost the most I ate the most the day before. Perhaps a maintenance day here and there is not such a bad idea when losing weight over a long time.
>MyFitnessPal put barcode scanning behind a paywall What a shitshow. Any decent alternatives?
>>70316692Have a friend this. He'll record his low cal days on the lose it app. Then not record his binge days. I stopped asking him about it. Cause I figure he won't listen.
>>70316736My post under your post.
>>70315964Damn, looks good. Is this the recipe from that website from last thread. Im was planning on some pasta today but yesterdays diet went a bit of the rails so need to get back on track today. Maybe next weekend.
>>70311203Has anyone tried Aadam Ali (physiqonomics) coaching program for weight loss?
>>70316623Yes. If it doesn't cause issue in other parts of your life, like cueing an over-eating scenario, than it is fine. Some here have to be very anal about their dietary choices to survive those first 30 lbs but if it fits your macros and gives you results that last, do it. Not everyone has that restraint, probably >>70316522 is one of them, for good reason.
My gains (losses) are going steadily. Lift are going well. Cardio starting to pick up. Started at 300lbs last July at 6'0. 254 as of this morning. Lightest I've been since 2018. Progress is inevitable, no amount of demotivators or doubters can stop me.
>>70316767No but it did inspire me to make a lower cal version of the tgif copycat cajun chicken pasta I used to make. I wrote up what I did here:>>70316411>>70316847I stopped drinking soda regularly in the 90's. So yeah I consider it horrible.
Found this protein pudding that's 104 calories, 14g protein. Nice.
>>70316945I just mix this with water. No it isn't a pudding but I could just add a pudding mix if I want to continue being fat.
>>70316827No, but that's because I'm a poorfag who's managed through a combination of his articles and this thread's advice. If I had the money to burn, I'd seriously consider it because the dude gives away too much, or at least more than the average fitness-based career person/shill would; and he seems to be flying solo as a businessman. If he's chosen to do that out of moral fortitude, nice, if not, well... over-monetizing yourself can make yourself an insufferable c u next tuesday anyways.He attempts to wade through fitness BS to find gold as best he can. Though many health studies are often sponsored/tweaked by big pharma, he takes even that into account. I like him alright, but judge for yourself.
>>70317076Stop being a faggot
>>70317077>c u next tuesdayI am astounded that you unironically typed this on 4chan.
>more concerned about my health recently>want to buy a blood pressure monitor>apparently the arm ones are more accurate than the wrist ones>take a look at some popular ones>cuff goes to 32 cm>my arm is 42 cm fugg
>>70317076Fair enough, that is even better protein to calorie ratio, but this pudding is sufficiently good for my diet and tastes good.I'm down 82lbs in 11 months btw
>>70317226>my arm is 42 cmYou must be like 150kg?
>>70317188Too much Friday Night Tights, then.
Fatty contestPisshead248 lbs
>>70317178I'm a fat in a fat man thread and people are telling me to drink coke, eat pudding. Am I crazy? No the children are wrong.
>>70317325I said pudding but it's fucking 90% skimmed milk. It's not like I'm slamming down four cakes and not everything has to be plain chicken breast.Coke is shit though, I avoid drinking any calories.
>>70317226They sell larger cuffs for the popular devices. No it won't give you a bad reading using a larger cuff.
>>70317342The homemade protein pudding on YouTube says just use protein powder, sugar free pudding mix and water. Milk is optional.
Fatty ContestEkseption82.5kgI became lazy and complacent, it's time to get back into the swing of things. I will post each week until at least June.
>>70317325People are allowed to enjoy the things they eat if it gets them the results they want, is sustainable long term, and doesn't create issues elsewhere. How hard is this to understand? People often fail by only allowing themselves to eat 4 different things for their weight loss journey that is ultimately doomed because they get bored of eating the same shit. Highly restrictive diets may be necessary for those who are trying to build some self control but jesus
>>70317443It's commercial pre-madehttps://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/310130017
>>70311756I think as far as the contest is concerned it still pays to weigh in every week, even with no progress.
>>70317535This is true, I think the fattycontest deducts points for missed weigh ins
Im happy im losing weight but not sure im going to be happy where i end up. Hope i just dont feel like the same person after getting to my -100lb goal.
>>70317428That's true, but a lot of the time it's difficult to assess that, being a fatty state of mind you think: I want the food now, and feeling hungry for too long causes pain. But seasoning and having a variety of foods helps with the diet blahs, as well as probably giving yourself a choice of some different nutrients.Under TDEE? Eat it if it doesn't put you over. Over TDEE? Drink water, black coffee and teas without sugar or milk. The caffeine in the latter two may help you not to eat anything else.
>>70312151Whats your goal weight. I started at 150kg too, lost about 30kg so far and pretty much look like this already. Ive still got 25kilos to go to get to your current weight.
>>70313780Kinda what happened to me, went from 85 to 65 and thought I don't need to watch my weight for a while, I can just lose it again, went up to 88 very recently and just in a few months. So this time I'm gonna try to implement some permanent diet changes, first time I'm losing weight counting calories, first time I did keto, second time I did my own special banana diet, 5 bananas a day with nothing else, man I must have eaten a lot of bananas that year
>>70312887ah, the mystery is solved. always quietly pondered what greyplastic was in reference to also.
>>70317554just lift once you stop you'll be fineunless you mean psychologically? then yes you'll likely be the same as you are now. once a fatty always a fatty
>>70311756>>70317535>>70317538>No points are deducted if you gain weight. But you need to beat your minimum in current leg to start earning points.>If you join then you should consider it as a commitment. You won’t be able to leave the contest until the leg has finished! And 5 points will be deducted if you fail to submit an entry. So even if you gained weight, submit your entry to avoid losing points.So it says on the fatty contest website. Take the L and keep consistent with your points. You're not infallible, the dip in gains (losses?) may even remind you of something difficult you were trying to overcome at the time, or a particularly embarrassing mistake you made. These things will motivate you and inspire you if you don't give up, bumps in the road are a part of the process. It's only outright failure when you choose to give up.wagmi my fren.
>>70315173hot mfer, keep going
>>70313207Interesting. Going to look into this. Always feel like something is up with my guts. Feeling sluggish and bloated, food takes a long time to make its way through my guts, i test sometimes with corn but it can be days until I see it pass. I get reflux in the evenings, start feeling my throat tighten up just before bed.
>>70315376coffee is not just bad for your heart but your stomach too
>>70313623Im on about that many cals now at 260lbs and losing 3lbs a week, so maybe you need to drop it a little.
>>70316429I wouldn't risk it. The happy merchant says so many things are safe, ima only trust God and the food he creates
>>70313780Im with you brother, know that pain. My last 5 years have been like 313 to 280 to 297 to 324 to 291 to 317 to 330. This year has been good to me so far and this morning I am at 265. It doesnt make me feel good what ive put my body through but trying to make amends.
WTF do I binge at nights before bed?I need to put something in 0% fat greek yoghurt otherwise I am not satiated.I can eat apples but I need to eat like 3-5 in one sitting.Same with stuff like cucumbers I need a full big bowl.
>>70314097>Six Pack in 30 daysWill check it out as Ive been meaning to start ab training
>>70315200I look at it this way, if you truly were sure that you ate at a calorie deficit for the week. Then that number is water weight and if you keep up eating well. One day the whoosh effect will take place and the number will drop dramatically
>>70317784put the fat back in it lol
>>70314144I used to have this after dinner, I think it helped my night reflux a little
>>70314262I add a pinch of pink salt every time I fill up my water bottle.
>>70315769I'm 285 and my target weight is 220.When I had a 6 pack I was 205Regardless I am a fat fuck right now. I'm down 32 pounds so far. Can't wait to be fit again
>>70314378I sit at my pc most mornings putting foods into MFP to plan ahead for my day. Guess its handy to be NEET and have the time to do this. Once the macros look ok I lock it in and thats my day of eating.
>>70317784>WTF do I bingeYou don't. Eventually your ghrelin takes the hint and the pre-bed cravings go away.
>>70316429I like drinking a coke zero a few times with a meal that calls for it. Other than that I'm mostly water and coffee with a little 1 percent milk.
>>70314418Same, starting to notice veins in my hands and feet, aslo definition in my quads has become quite noticeable. Might start actually buying some shorter shorts for summer. We all just be might fucking making it. Lessgo
>>70317784The night cravings are the worst - they literally prevented me from sleeping every time I've tried, and ruins my next day. If it's a low calorie day I have my single meal right before bed, usually 8 - 900 calories. If not, I time my first meal for 3 - 4pm (It took time to avoid eating at work, was hard) and have my last meal at 10pm. It's been a while and now my cravings aren't as bad but getting to this point took a lot of attention. I just find it easier to delay eating in the morning than to avoid at night. So long as it all fits my macros and calorie goals. You got this anon
My roommate ordered some creatine and I pitched in half so we could share it. Been taking it every day this week. Is it any good for fat loss? I know it makes you retain more water so maybe the numbers on the scale will be bigger but I think that's in the muscles right? Basically what I'm asking is: does it impede fat loss in any way?
>>70314951Yer, try this anon. I rate it highly.
>>70312023Shit, I'm about 275 and demoralized as fuck. How'd you do it bro?
5'9" 182 lb.pretty lean somewhat. but i have huge T gut or something? I DO NOT take T tho. if I stick it out, my upper body looks more feminine but i'm look pregnant ish and i'm definitely not. and as I stick my tummy out to reshape my upper body more leanly, i get a nice thing going on. but then i'm hunched, because my shoulders are wide. i'm just wondering. how do i recompose the visceral/corporeal mass residual in my chest, to get the stomach more toned as it used to be before some stretches I did to my body. my current plan is prego mode with ''baby sculpting'.' i just didn't take body recomp and took weight training in high school like some sort of cave machine thing, so i don't know why it's so hard to wrap my head around anatomy but! How to get it done without knowing?i need to know anything from a bro. even a single.
>>70318061ok sensei, taking pics soon
How worried should I be about "starvation mode" where if you eat too little calories, your body freaks out and starts trying to conserve as much fat as possible?
>>7031762530 min of walking may be only 150 calories for you. But the same exercise at an incline will almost double the calories burned. The rest doesn't matter. Small meals or large it is just calories in and out.
Im looking forward to my next family gathering in may. I should have lost 20kg by this time since I seen everyone last time at Christmas. Will be interesting to see what happens. Probably nothing, but Im going to feel good either way.
how do you gain any muscle while trying to be /notfat/?I'm an obese retard and want to lose weight, but getting 250g of protein a day requires me to eat so much
>>70318128The only thing the body can hold onto US water weight. Starvation mode isn't what people think it is. When people starve they slow down, sleep a lot. A slower metabolism does not change the concept of calories in and out.
>>70318151Same here, I've read that 1g of protein per 1cm of height is equally good.
>>70318151Why don't you start your diet by getting at least 100g of protein a day. Because the whole point of a diet is it is long and you should have started last month. Not worrying about macros. After you hit your target weight you can body recomp with a sensible bulk and lifting weights.
>>70318151Then dont eat so much protein? You dont need that much.
>>70317668Yeah, I meant psychologically. I guess there is no reason to really wait then to start improving other areas of my life then otherwise I might be waiting forever. Fat brain sucks
>>70318166is water weight Not sure why I wrote US.
>>70317784Have some cottage cheese with apple or pineapple, or like the other anon said use full fat greek yogurt instead.
>>70318187realistically that's what I'm getting. I hover around 170-200 a day and I'm 175cm>>70318192>>70318196if I'm gonna stall/lose muscle anyway, why shouldn't I just crash diet for a month or two and drop 1lb/day in the meantime?
>>70318128What he said, excess caloric debt makes me lethargic (usually with a delay).
>>70318216I'm dealing with stomach issues right now and can't drink coffee and the gastrologist told me it was bad for the stomach
>>70318235then again she was a woman so there may be room for doubt
>>70318232Nothing is stopping you from doing a crash diet. As long as it doesn't lead to a binge. I'm on a nice easy 2.5 pounds a week. Currently eating a 90 calorie homemade chocolate chip cookie cause I had calories left over for it. Used to eat like 15 of these guys. Now I get one a day from the freezer if I can fit it in.
>>70313207Update: I didnt exactly tell him it was a gastroparesis diet cuz im a fag but i told him i found it by searching "slow gastric emtying" which return pretty much only one thing. I still dont know if he understands what my diet is but hes not worried about deficiency as long as im eating "something resembling a normal diet" (whatever that means) and "fruit and vegetables" (which i am). He referred me to a dietician anyway tho which is kinda nice, will probably go, and is testing me for pylori antibodies and thyroid health.
>>70318281Actually keeping them in the freezer seems like a good way not to binge on them. I like your thinking anyway with regards to diet. I too enjoy treats throughout the week when my calories allow it. Counting cals and losing 1-1.5kg a week has been good. I know a lot of others here struggle even with eating pretty much nothing, but I can keep hiting my 1800-2000cals a day at the moment and lose pretty consistantly. Currnently 120kg.
>>70318232>if I'm gonna stall/lose muscle anyway, why shouldn't I just crash diet for a month or two and drop 1lb/day in the meantime?I mean you could but thats not what im saying. Theres no way you currently have 250 pounds of muscle so dropping your protein intake, as long as youre not crash dieting, isnt gonna increase your muscle loss.>>70318235Just because its bad for you (what he meant) doenst mean its bad for everyone. Coffee is acidic. People who struggle with heartburn can get triggered by it, as well as people with ulcers. Caffeine also causes the body to increase stomach acid production, something that also aggravates those other diseases (and possibly others). Its also quite gross on an empty stomach, but i probably dont need to say this,
>>70318317>>70318281>>70318323fair enough. I enjoy OMAD/20-4 fasting but stopped because I was struggling to hit even 100g protein unless I binge ate for the 2 hour windowguess I'm gonna start that up again. I hate the first few days of fasting since I'm always hungry, but I love how quickly stomachs adjust.
>>70318317I once had two cookies from the freezer. I hit the side of my head hard with my fist that my eye socket nerves were sparking. I have yet to eat a second cookie in the same day. This is the way.
New thread time>>70318665>>70318665>>70318665
>>70314951hamburger steaks with mushrooms onions and green peppers are pretty dang good.