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Lifting for women is a meme isnt it? I'm 6'2,205, can bench 300 pounds. Squat 365, deadlift 405. I could be a bit leaner but i have some muscle. Women literally dont care. Im in my 30s and once i hit 30 its like hot women vanished. I work with a 5'7 dyel thats like 23. But hes young and lean and gets 7-8 10s all the time. Do i just take the lean pill and cut to 190 and be a dyel skeleton?
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>>70310941
Lifting for women is one of the best things you can do.
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>>70310941
Those are terrible lifts
Also start permabulking

Reminder that Grizzly gets laid on demand
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>>70310959
Actually those are the guys who use tinder because they're too anxious to talk to girls irl.
Tinder is, in fact, a scam.
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>>70310941
tl;dr: Yes

Longer answer: Why would you imitate incels instead of dudes who score?
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You don't lift for women directly.
You lift for the social gains of others acknowledging you as an equal or superior
You lift for the career gains from the halo effect

And being socially and financially successful is what gets women.

If you are a shredded waiter at a restaurant, the only ones who want you purely for your body are the over 45 divorcees.
Be good at what you do, make money a non issue and have a large social circle who are happy to see you, that's it.
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>>70310941
Your friend is just in situations with young girls more often.
I put in no effort and was never single for longer than 2 weeks from ages 14 onward.

But I got married young too, which is what you're supposed to do, before it all drys up in your 30s as women stop just having fun and start trying to employ strategy which leaves them miserable but "in control"
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>>70312041
Yeah I'll second this. If anything, your success with women should be a result of the CONFIDENCE boosts you get from seeing yourself stronger or more muscular. The fact that OP is on here posting about it shows me you're probably still a little too self conscious about things
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>not lifting to beat the shit out of your dad

get it done soon, lads. one day he will be old and sick and it won't even count for anything to beat him up then.
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>>70312057
>But I got married young too, which is what you're supposed to do

looksmaxxers have some kind of fucked fantasy where they're 38 and get a good wife then, or something.
lolno. yes a 38 year old can pull 18 yo girls.
are they the good ones? fuck no.
the good will not do large age gaps and they are taken by their mid 20s.
everything available to you as a 38 yo Chad, assuming you could be one that late, will be garbage.
there will be exceptions but they're fucking rare.
eg. some places in the usa where christian families will be happy to see their good young girls marry much older men if those older men are rich and rock solid.
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>>70312132
>implying my dad didn't die already
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>>70312057
>Your friend is just in situations with young girls more often.
Can you tell me more about your Life and teen years?Im interested since I was one of the weird kids,got chances to be normal but I just couldnt be bothered,being with people felt like homework to me.
My life as a teen was basically school,videogames,Sports and maybe hang out once a month or twice.
Most of my free times was vidya,how was Life on the other side?
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Once you're muscular enough to do a bunch of pullups and bench your bodyweight a few times, and be LEAN, additional progress makes .001% difference with women. You've gotta do it for yourself RE further progress at that point, anything else is a waste of time.
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>>70312150
The best luck I ever had and the best decision I ever made was meeting my wife when I was 23 and marrying her by the time I was 27.

The idea you gotta "spread your seed until you're 35" is a meme and has a strong chance of leaving you absolutely miserable and alone. If you meet the right girl, lock that shit down.

Notice I said the RIGHT girl, if you don't think she's the one, don't waste a ton of time with her.
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>>70312175
I am happy for you. I'm on the wrong end of my 30s now and no joke - some of the best looking women I see around now are single fucking mothers.
They were at least hot enough to knock up once and they're typically looking a lot better than childless women of their same age.
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>>70310941
>lifting for women instead of lifting women
ngmi
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I did a lot better with women as a 180lb ottermode (6'2) than I do now several years later at 205lb. I'm going to cut back down and chill at 180 for life tbqh, the eating is also less stress.
I was never skinnyfat but I imagine being otter gives you a big improvement over that.
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>>70312211
GL out there. There's no shortage of good looking single moms out there but from what I've observed and heard from friends and coworkers, they have a host of issues that sound like it could be a nightmare to deal with.
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>>70311798
But I met girls from Tinder, how is it a scam?
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>>70310941
Idk sounds like larp to me
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Honestly my life was the same as yours, but I had a friend group that was roughly 40% girls
We all just liked the same music and hung out in our free time as a large group or subsets of that group.

If it was just us boys, as it was most nights, the girls would hang out together, we'd play vidya or cards, or just wander the town together texting girls while we did.
We'd have camping trips every couple of months where we'd all save our money and use the one girl who dated a guy over 18 to buy us alcohol, and we'd all fuck off to a field for 2 days to get drunk and try to make out with anonettes

I wasn't a chad but I was probably in the top 2 of the guys in our friend group because i was taller and still skinny from an ED I had age 14.

But my larger point was, when you are a teen girls will date you because you have some classes with them, your voice got deep 3 weeks before others and you like the same bands.
In your late teens and 20s, they're still in that sort of mindset, nobody has their life together yet.

After that, they've either settled with somebody or dated around a bit and now they "need to get serious" and land a good one, the scene dries up, and the only girls left are ones nobody married.
TV lied to the last few generations and dating in your 30s sounds grim.
One or my employees is a girl my age who nobody married and she is puting a brave face on it, but she's not able to find somebody worthwhile.
Probably never will, at least not in time to procreate.
Sad. Many such cases.
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>>70312211
Obviously I wouldn't want this situation for myself, but maybe you could do worse than a single mother.
You take the hit of helping raise her kid (if it's white), in return you get 2 or 3 of your own from her, and she behaves herself knowing that she's very aware of how shit single mother life is.

It's not exactly 17 year old virgin tradwife, but in the right circumstances I would do it.
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>>70312471
>three guys actually made money off Madoff
>They ask "How was Bernie Madoff a scam?"
Deep thoughts with Random Anon
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>>70310941
They do care. They don't show it in a way you understand because they communicate differently than men do.
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Roids age you. Women like older guys but they like them fit and aged well. Zyzz is legendary for looksmaxxing but you need to realize he looked 30 at 22; if he had lived to this day he would have lost his looks a long time ago.
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>>70310959
I don't know what to tell you anon, but most the women I had negative experiences with in junior high and high school did, in fact, hit the wall

and it didn't even take them until 30 to do it
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>>70313784
Man if this is true there are more girls that liked me than I thought. And lots of girls who didn’t like me but I felt cool because they were excited to see me. Damn
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>>70312168
Nonsense, you can absolutely max out hitting your physique on other areas.
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>>70310941
If women don't care they why do all those romances movies/TV shows aimed at women have men who are fit?
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>>70313784
thats explains why every woman hates me up front, r-right?
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>>70311777
Trips of truth.
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>>70311082
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