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I am the guy on the right. I got three problems

My arms don't grow, my abs don't show, and my chest is shaped gay as fuck.

Is all of this genetic? Is steroids the only solution? Or is this totally doable.

sorry about the gross armpit hair.
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>>68426239
Grow up and dont use fucking anime as your goal
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>>68426239
You need to eat more, and you need to actually struggle to lift the weights in the gym. You probably have fuckarounditis so I suggest SL 5x5 just as a way to see yourself getting measurably stronger. You’re gonna have to bulk and gain a little body fat, but by then you should know what you’re doing.
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>>68426239
baudrilard spinning in his grave
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>>68426328
kek
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>>68426239
>My arms don't grow
Eat more, train more and sleep more
>my abs don't show
What abs? Train them, and when you lose weight after they'll show
>my chest is shaped gay as fuck
it's fine anon just not that big atm.
Wanting to look like an anime character is like a irl girl wanting to look like a 2d wifu, it's just not realistic.
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>>68426328
Based fit/lit out in force today.
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>>68426239
You're not that far off actually. Use a bodybuilding program and bulk up slowly (100-200kcal over maintenance) for a year and then begin cutting until you're shredded after that. Leanness is the main factor here. Hes not that big but he's diced.
Your abs will show if you work them with weighted ab exercises for higher volume. Weighted situps, leg raises, and Russian Twists are my 3 favorites. Ab wheel of increasing difficulty is also a great addition.
Your arms will grow if you spam isolation lifts like incline Skull Crushers and EZ-Bar Curls. I'm doing 3 sets of each and then 3 down sets for the same exercises using about 10-15% less weight. I've increased my arm size by 3/4" over the past 2 1/2 months using that method instead of using lots of different variations.
Learn how to maintain that shredded body through diet and lifestyle and allowing your body to adjust to it as your new state. In total you're looking at around 1.5-2 years of investment from that point but you'll look great and you'll be healthy.
Also your chest shape isn't that bad. I've seen way worse both in person and online. You also need to really work on your lateral and rear delts in addition to the arms and abs if that's your goal physique.
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>>68426239
>steroids
Uhhh...try lifting first before you make that jump
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>>68426239
Your frame is fine retard you need to drink an extra two glasses of milk a day plus an a couple eggs and workout a couple days a week and youll grow. Cant put on muscle past a low threshold without having excess resources, eat eat eat.
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>>68426239
Height?
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you dont need steroids your just not eating enough meat you retard

YOU NEED TO EAT ALOT OF MEAT TO PUT ON MUSCLE
LIKE WAY MORE THAN YOU THINK
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>>68426610
im 5ft 11
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>>68426716
You will need 3 - 4 years if you do everything right.
Meaning eating in a surplus and lift and recover like there is not tomorrow
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>>68426487
>>68426628
Sorry about the "sHoUld I dO sTeRoIdS?" shit in the OP
I admit I wasn't in best mindset when I posted
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>>68426239
Your twink potential is through the roof. Are you cute? Seriously gay old men would pay five figs to fuck you in the ass. Embrace being a pretty boy. I like your proportions.
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>>68426730
I think OP underestimates how muscular the guy on the left really is. If you want a perfect recreation Op it will take this long. But to be honest with one year of proper training I think you can evoke the "feeling" of the anime man on left. I would say go for hard slow bulk then a little cut at the end should do it. You should post your height and current weight and I'll tell you what weight and bf to aim for
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>>68426456
thanks for response! it was helpful

>>68426558
I guess eating more seems to be the meta. I read that leanness was number one priotity but I guess that comes later. Right now I mainly eat protein bars for meals and the occasional toast or hamburger or something.

I also take multivitamin (you can see it in the OP on the right if you have a sharp eye)
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>>68426239
Bro
You are on the right pat literally just start working out properly.
You could look amazing and feel amazing, probably more than 90% of people, and you are thinking about roids?
Why?
You lose all your roid muscle afterwards and you give yourself chronic mental and physical issues.
Just take your time, give yourself 2 or 3 years of proper working out and you will probably have cloud's physique.
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>>68426239
>tfw your hair will never be behind your eyes and eyebrow.
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>>68426239
bro cloud wears dresses like a girl. is that someone you really want to idolize? besides, he didn't get that way natty, he's been hitting up that mako for a long time now, everyone knows this.
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Your frame could support 15-25lbs more of lean mass easily. You've got a ton of bulking today. That is all of the issue here. It's fine to add some fat and get a little uncomfortable, you can cut that after. Bulk slowly, but consistently. Roids aren't even in the conversation, you need to see what you can do when you bulk first.
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good idea to try to look like Cloud

based
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>>68428028
For some reason all my favorite game characters are shredded as shit.

Cloud, Captain Falcon, Santa from 999...
Even Godot from AceAttorney looks like he's probably diced out underneath his suit.

No homo I swear lol
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>>68426239
show full cock and balls
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Just train hypertrophy for fuck's sake.
>My arms don't grow, my abs don't show, and my chest is shaped gay as fuck
Hypertrophy retard. Don't just lift a weight you can, lift a weight with purpose and control. Otherwise you won't look like you've lifted a day in your life
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>>68428280
even dudes can't resist
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>>68426239
Have you done any buster sword presses? I would start with those.
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>>68428335
Seconded.
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>>68426239
>reddit spacing
Ngmi
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>>68428666
I hate reddit as much as the next person, but at least the spacing makes everything easy to read.

It breaks the post up so it comes across like a collection of statements with cuts in between rather than a wall of rant, which people just pass up.

It even makes it more expressive in a way, since every sentence can be said on it's own with unique emotion.
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>>68426239
you can achieve that physique naturally and pretty quickly considering you're lean already. Don't do SL 5x5 like the other guy said, instead focuse specifically on hypertrophy training and you'll achieve that within a year or two MAX.

Reps on reps on reps > strength training.

Also, look up the routine of a real person who has a similar physique and just copy them. Or someone similarly aesthetic who is bigger and just stop focus on maintaining when you reach that physique.

You've got this OP. Best of luck.
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>>68429054
thanks for the response!

I heard that high reps doesn't increase muscle size or shape at all, it just burns calories and helps stamina. Almost everyone else suggests heavy weights to increase that size. Is this wrong?
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>>68426896
Why are zoomers like this? Why do they WANT to have mental issues?
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>>68427782
I don't know why this made me laugh as much as it did
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>>68429402
>Almost everyone else suggests heavy weights to increase that size. Is this wrong?

They exaggerate how much strength you need to actually build a decent physique. Again focus on hypertrophy workouts and don't fall for the strength meme unless that's what you want to build. And, even then you'd be better off getting the body you desire first and then working on the strength after.

Progressive overload but don't waste time doing 5x5 rep schemes, focus on getting as many reps as you can and work with weights that allow you to do so. 90-120 reps per muscle per week over 2 sessions = plenty.

https://youtu.be/m-uINT0cquI
https://youtu.be/dr-v9OYVTmU
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>>68429933
>90-120 reps per muscle per week over 2 sessions = plenty.

I should specify I mean 45-60 reps per session over 2 session a week resulting in a total of 90-120 reps per week.


5x5x2x52=2,600 reps in a year
vs.
90x52=4,680 or 1.8x the amount of reps
120x52=6,240 or 2.4x the amount of reps

guess which one is going to build you the most muscle.
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>>68426239
Ayo I want to look like this. Are Steroids the only solution????
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>>68426328
That could apply to half the posts on this board
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>>68426239
eat more fucktard, bulk then cut to achieve something closer to the left

however obviously since youre comparing yourself to a literal fictional character you have to keep your expectations in check. Cloud's physique there looks to be at like 3-4% bodyfat but without any of the obvious giveaways of a roider (giant abdomen and traps). Forget steroids, that physique isn't achievable with or without them. You can get pretty close but I would honestly just bulk and then try to maintain 12-15% bodyfat, you'll be pretty close to what you want.
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>>68430601
Bulking is annoying though. I've been trying to do so but 3.5k calories is a disgusting amount of food.

That's why I thought the whole diced look would come easy but I guess not
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>>68430887
Retard just do it if you want to look good and then do a recomp
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>>68426239

Your chest will be fine bro. Do a little bench and never, ever underestimate the power of pushups. I bet if you did 200+ pushups a day your chest would fuckin' pop.
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>>68426456

Based anon
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>>68427394
>thanks for response! it was helpful
in case this is not a bait thread; he's fucking with you. you are a total skinny fat dyel. you are probably worse than being fat because you don't have any muscle mass to begin with or the motivation of losing weight. of course isolation won't help you when you have no muscle whatsoever. the guy who gave you advice is probably no better than you. Cloud looks like he could be some gymnastics perma conditioned guy who started working out at the age of 8. ab workouts do work. the problem is that most people don't have anywhere near the discipline to train their core everyday. two or three sets will get you nowhere. get a gym membership and start doing the basic barbell lifts. you can't even think about skipping the basics. don't ever pay attention to bodybuilder meme terms like "bulking" and "shredding" you should just focus on getting stronger. you want more reps and more plates with good form.

>>68426252
>Grow up and dont use fucking anime as your goal
this.
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>>68429970
>5x5x2x52=2,600 reps in a year
>vs.
>90x52=4,680 or 1.8x the amount of reps
>120x52=6,240 or 2.4x the amount of reps
>guess which one is going to build you the most muscle.
The one with the most hard sets. Lmao. You can't just lift baby weight all day and expect your body to build muscle over it.
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>>68426239
Maybe you should try working out first
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>>68429835
They think having mental issues and talking about it is refreshing and relatable



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