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If you’re at the early stages of balding, take fin as soon as possible.Seriously. Fuck all the sides scaremongers, most people do not get them. Even if they do, they tend to pass after a few weeks or with lowered dosage. Dont wait and fear them like I did. You will save more hair and look better. Remember, 95% of men do not look good bald. Even worse while balding. You are not the 5%.

Don’t deny it to yourself. If your individual hairs are miniaturizing, you are balding. If the crown is looking a little thin, you are balding. If your temples are looking screwy, you are balding. Accept it and get on fin.
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>>68404866
Why do you care if you're bald or not. Age gracefully without poisoning your body for vanity.
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>>68404866
gave me gyno
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I'm taking it but not sure if it's working. I really don't want to jump on stronger shit like Dut or RU
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>>68404885
What was your dosage? And I honestly prefer gyno than being bald. At least with that you can get a surgery to remove it
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>>68404871
How do I age gracefully if I look hideous bald/balding
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>>68404871
your body is literally being poisoned 24/7 by pollutants and all kinds of crap being put into your food, waters and everything else. nothing is graceful about how you're currently aging.
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>>68404905
1mg 3x a week. tried .5 too but same sides after a few months. I have a little pubertal gyno too so it was doubly bad. Just said fuck it and stopped taking it bc I was having weak erections/watery semen etc. as well.
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I tried, I couldn't handle it. I started getting random panic attacks like I was doomed, and I couldnt stop them. I felt like aggressive in the gym, less manly, if that makes sense, and I started having weaker erections. I just minox and dermaroll now and i've been getting regrowth. Nothing made me feel as shitty as fin has. I was doing .5 x3 a week after lowering down from 1mg, and then I even tried .25 and it still was affecting me too much. I've always been buzzed, but it looked like I was purposely doing it, instead now it looks like im balding, and it's going away with the minox/derma, so i'm not anti fin, but the sides were way too prevalent for me.
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>>68404866
It made my gyno worse but I refuse to stop. I'd rather have full-blown titties than lose my hair.
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i'm balding and i simply don't care because i have completely given up on women. just going ask the barber to shave it next time i'm there. just stop caring.
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I should have started at 18 desu, I'd still have a superb head of hair. Now it's just barely holding on because started at 25
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>>68405074
Fuck it, I'm going to start minoxidil and dermarolling asap, my fucking hair is falling our after I started to lift. My hairline was bad before, but the speed is insane now
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You fags need stoicism instead of a prostate cancer drug that ironically may cause prostate cancer.
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>>68405247
>I'd rather have titties and thick, full hair than go bald and have a man's body
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>>68404866
Fina and minox will give you permanent depression, heart damage, gyno and impotense.

1.5mm dermarolling, nizoral shampoo and castrol/peppermint/rosemary oil dilution works just as good without any side effects. Changed my life.
Check the hairloss talk forum mega thread for microneedling success stories and recommendations, and dont let these idiots trick you into doing the same damage on yourself that they have caused to themselves.
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>>68404866
Made my balls ache all the time

Disregard the shills
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>>68405397
I'm 5'6 and have terrible baby-face. I'd look like absolute shit without hair
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Does fin or min help grow a mature hairline? And can I take lower quantities of it if I'm not balding?

My hairline has been fairly stable for the last 8-9 years, but I have a very unfortunate mature hairline. Norwood 2.5 and thin/fine hair. Really limits what I can do with it.

And would I lose all the progress if I stop taking it, even if my DHT levels are stable?
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>>68405552
>Check the hairloss talk forum mega thread
Where is this thread?
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>>68405602
>Does fin or min help grow a mature hairline
Does it? For some people yes. You? Can't know until you try it unfortunately.
>And can I take lower quantities of it if I'm not balding?
To maximize the chances/rate of regrowth higher doses of finasteride help.
>And would I lose all the progress if I stop taking it, even if my DHT levels are stable?
Yes. Once you stopped taking finasteride your DHT levels would go up again and start killing the hair you regrew.
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>>68405328
Everybody who says this actually cares. You can cope as much as you want but you will always hold resentment and misery within you if you are not attractive to look at. Especially so if you are young.
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>>68404866
Daily reminder that if you're diffuse thinning all over your head, you likely have an underactive thyroid and while taking fin/using min might help cover the symptoms, it won't help in the long term.

You need to fix your diet and lifestyle.
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>>68405689
There is almost no difference between 1mg and .5mg of fin. Some cases even .2 suffices. Lower doses reduce sides.
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>>68405394
>have problem
>convince self you dont care about problem rather than fixing it
>this is the correct way to approach life
Being attractive objectively makes life easier and gives you more power. Letting that go is stupid as fuck unless you dont care about the outcomes of life
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>>68405818
I have that and the hypothyroidism but I also have an extremely good diet and healthy lifestyle. Got it diagnosed way too many years late sadly, being healthy hid it slightly but you can't beat thyroid with just health if you get it bad. Underactive thyroid for too long will fuck your heart/other muscles essential for life/digestive tract/literally everything. Literally determined your growth and utilization resources by your body.
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>>68404866

Here's my experience with finasteride. I started when I was 21 or 22, currently 25. I am perhaps 50% less interested in sex than I used to be. Instead of jerking off every other day I'm doing it once every week or so. My erection quality seems fine. For a while I thought the loss of sex interest was just me getting older, but last week I accidentally took the wrong pill two days in a row and jerked off like crazy. It was a curiously robust natural experiment because I didn't realize I had taken the wrong pill until day 3, so there was no placebo effect.


Hair effects: when I started finasteride my crown was fully dense and my temples were receding. Four years later my temples have receded a bit more and my crown is slightly less dense, though I only notice it when my hair is wet. In short I went from being way balder than my peer group to being a normal amount of bald for my peer group. I suspect that by 30 I will be less bald than the average 30 year old. For reference, I also did topical minoxidil until last month, when I switched to oral minoxidil.

Take from this any conclusion you wish.
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>>68404866
>>68404885
>gyno

>>68404930
>weak erections

>>68405074
>panic attacks
>weaker erections

>>68406877
>50% less interested in sex

fucking poison. it's depriving of your manhood you fools. just get a toupee or shave it. being bald sucks but you all are being trannyfied by that poison
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>>68404866
yes goy take the trannypill
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>>68404866
>Fucking up your body and blocking potential gains by taking fin.
How can you be this retarded?
Just fucking use RU58841!
The absolute state of /fit/
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>be me
>January 2020
>32 years old
>notice a horrifyingly large bald spot atop my head
>start Rogaine immediately
>bald spot is gone by the year's end
>start using Finasteride January '21 as a preventative measure
>no side-effects
>turned 35 last month
>almost three years since my darkest hour in January 2020
>hair is still as fluffy and full as can be
Am I safe?
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>>68404866
Daily reminder the only reason trannies take fin is because it prevents male pattern baldness. they have to take other hormones to actually transition
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>>68404866
hair roller and minoxidil
argan oil \ coconut oil
do not sweat in hats
massage skull\scalp

it will help but not more than 30-40%
if you're gonna be bald just be bald who cares
you can delay it somewhat though
stop eating hormone disrupting (((foods)))
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>>68404866
for any kangaroo bros there is legit prescription topical fin + min spray that is easy to get online (no video calls needed, just pics and family history etc), search 'get mosh'
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>>68404866
Fuck off, tranny.
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>>68408351
Reminder finasteride has feminizing effects on males. I can't post the link, but use Google.
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>>68406507
>>68405818
This can also happen if you hop on shit like tren. A lot of guys will think it's dht related, do everything in their power to stop it without realizing how fucked up their thyroid has become from steroid use.
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>>68409011
It fucks with the neurosteroids in your brain, but because the company that makes it didn't fund more research because they were legally able to sell it as is, shills will say it doesn't do any of that. That shit is fucking poison for men.
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>>68405809
Yeah OP here and I know it’s a cope. There’s nothing I can do that isn’t even more cope though so might as well just accept. It sucks because it instantly eliminates you from modern dating so I’ve also just had to completely give up on the chance of having another girlfriend in the future.
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>yeah Im gonna poison myself so instead of balding I can look slightly less balding but still very clearly balding

Anons, stop delaying the inevitable, everyone knows you're balding. And guess what, everyone looks better bald than balding.
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>>68404871
Second this >>68404929
>high amounts of chromium and other metals put into protein drinks and vitamins as "nutrient enrichment"
>microplastics in everything
>anything with fragrance contains formaldahyde in levels that affect blood concentration
>majority of cotton/polyester clothing blends contain formaldahyde which gets absorbed by the skin in enough levels to affect cognition
>most areas in america still use led piping because its too expensive to replace, when the calcium content gets too low led seeps into the water frequently
>some toothpaste brands are allowed to contain unsafe levels of led and other chemicals because its listed as a "cosmetic product" which are allowed to contain unsafe levels of led
>all furniture offgases formaldahyde in concentrations high enough to affect health
>carpet offgases formaldahyde
>modern american homes use wood used with formaldahyde among other chemicals

We're literally absorbing shitty chemicals 24/7, America is super lax on the allowed chemicals it uses, basically its allowed unless its proven to be unsafe, opposed to only being allowed if it has evidence its safe, like other countries do.
Finasteride isn't that big of a deal, some people get side effects from it, if thats you don't take it. Its less harmful than SSRIs or other meds that can cause brain tumors. Some people feel better with higher DHT levels, some feel better with lower DHT, Asides balding DHT does do other things like help libido, grow body hair, facial hair, etc. So lowering it can cause some problems in some people, but others dont notice anything.
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>>68409091
if you get to it early you won't look like you're balding at all. I grew out my hair during corona and it's thick and past my collarbone. I started noticing my bangs getting wispy and freaked out.

I got on fin 2-3 months ago 1mg every Monday. I got findick but other than that nothing else. I use tongkat ali 1g a day to get rid of findick and my hair is getting better.

This is what I've noticed in the 3 months.
>yes the shedding phase IS REAL.
I was losing a ton of hair during the shedding phase that made the spots I had problems at more noticeable to me to the point I started hiding them manually
>baby hairs where my old hairline started sprouting again
So before fin my hairline was slowly creeping upwards which is why my bangs were getting thinner and thinner. After I started taking fin maybe a month in I started seeing baby hairs where my old hairline use to be. 3 months in those baby hairs are starting to fill in my temples and slowly but surely my bangs are coming back to the point I don't even notice I was ever balding.
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>>68404866
shit kill my libido, was using low doses which had less sides but my prescription ran out and cbf getting a new one. kind of at piece with being bald
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>>68404866
>surpress the most important male hormon
>take medication for the rest of your life
gay faggot whats next? becoming a tranny?
nobody gives a shit about your hair
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hello frens. i'm 21 and not balding but half the hair follicles on my head died because of treatment for brain cancer i had as a kid. what do you recommend for this, apart from derma roller (which i've already ordered)?
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>>68405074
>was doing .5 x3 a week
Nocebo'd yourself hard

t. Dutasteride 0.5mg every day with no sides
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>>68404866
>Don’t deny it to yourself. If your individual hairs are miniaturizing, you are balding. If the crown is looking a little thin, you are balding. If your temples are looking screwy, you are balding.
All of this happened to me at 20, I did nothing, got that mature hairline and nothing else ever happened. I am now 29
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>>68410785
>t. sissy
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>>68404866
I'd like to use finasteride but I have bad OCD and I've read that fin can fuck you up further with increased anxiety, and I definitely don't need that.
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>>68404905
You can also get a surgery for hair lol
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guess ill share my experience with fin too

>19yo
>norwood 2 going 3
>take 1.25g fin every 2 days
>lower the dosage to 1.25g every 3 days cause of low libido and weak erection
>still getting side effects so decide to take a break
>all side effects went away after 4 days of stopping fin
>now take 1.25g every 5th day

this all happened in the span of 2-3 months. hairfall stopped for a bit but i started shedding a week ago so i started taking topical minox now. any opinion from fin-veterans would be appreciated.

>>68404930
yea you shouldve looked into it man. fin will give you gyno but only if youre genetically predisposed. Id suggest not taking fin if you have gyno or have a close relative who has it.
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>>68404866
>go from NW1 to NW2 when I was 19
>panic and get fin
>take it for half a year
>still NW2 and not going back to 1
>stop taking it
>still NW2 at age 31 despite stopping fin a long time ago
Guess NW2 is my natural hairline and it probably won’t get any worse.
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>>68410778
if the follicles are then i guess the only way to go would be hair transplant. meds wont work on hair that dont exist bud
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what's bad about shaving bald?
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>>68413519
some people can unironically be born with up to NW3
>think im balding
>check hairline
>NW2
>panic
>look for old pics for comparison
>all covering forehead
>fuck.jpg
>later talking to my mom, asking her if she notices my hair was going
>uh anon you had a massive forehead, why else do you think I made you cover it
welp
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word of warning with minox, I got diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse. It's not suitable for people who have tendency in family for cardio vascular diseases. I had only hypertension diagnosed several years back and take beta blockers and candesartan.

It even worked well for the 7 months I took minox but I rather keep my heart than hair.
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>>68404866
These threads are cope from people who claim onions is put in food by jews to turn men into women yet put all these fucking chemicals in their head.
Balding is entropy bros, we all have to accept it at some point
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>>68404866
I don't care if I go bald. Convince me otherwise
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Reminder that this is what fate has in store for all eggheads and "just shave it" copers. GET ON FIN BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
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>>68415840
no, enjoy being an egg for all eternity you STUPID FUCK
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>>68416577
Imagine caring about superficial bitches. Suck my cock tranny.
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>>68404866
Started fin last December.

>1.25mg EOD, got sides within a month, started getting real ass sides within a few months including aching balls along with the lack of morning wood, could still get hard with girls but generally no random bones
>kept taking it, but by May I had to cases where I either wasn't getting hard very well with one girl and lost a boner with another girl (although there were other factors with both)
>took a month off to give blood and started back on 0.75mg daily
>within a few weeks had side effects going again
>finally decided to quit and take another month off
>got on homebrew topical 0.05% solution, applying 2ml daily
>after a month of that got the same full on no morning wood no boners and only weak boners when jerking off sides

So yeah. That's where I'm at now. I'm going to be making up 0.005% solution since the original topical studies showed that's an amount that won't go systemic but does promote hair preservation. I think if you're one of the guys who doesn't respond well to it there's just not much you can do, it's gonna fuck you up if it gets in your system. Not only that but it stacks in your tissues since it has a half life of 28 days, I once did the math and if you're taking 1mg daily, within a month you have 22mg of fin in your body still burning out.

Glad for the guys who are apparently completely unaffected, but before starting fin I was a rampaging sexmonster who'd get boners just by having sexual thoughts. Once I'm on fin it's like I've been fucking chemically castrated. On my month off periods I do notice things starting to get better thankfully.
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>>68410785
>nocebo

Tired of seeing this shit. You can certainly fuck your mind up consciously, but you can't fool your morning wood or lack thereof. It's a body process independent of your conscious thoughts.
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>>68416577
what a fucking gigantic insecure pussy lmao
>i shaved my head and started acting like a pathetic sorry for myself faggot and apparently women dont find that attractive
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ITT: coping eggheads kek.

Dudes in general but particularly on this board are completely clueless about whats attractive and what isn't to women. The overwhelmingly vast majority of women want you to have a fluffy full head of hair unless they're over like 40 years old and even then they would probably still prefer it. inb4 "heh who cares what women think" ME faggot, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be appealing to the opposite sex.

Most men including (You) will look like shit bald. You do not look like le gruff masculine Jason Statham, you WILL literally become a real life basedjak. Do everything in your power to prevent this and remember that the guys telling you to 'just shave it' are trying to drag you down with them to become a miserable incel egghead.
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>>68417516
This.

I wouldn't give a fuck except that I'm 29 and seem to have entered a phase of life where hot 18-21 year old girls want me to fuck them with my belt around their neck and call me daddy, and I know I'd be giving that up if I didn't have my hair. Young girls are all vanity. They're not looking for bald dudes.

>inb4 "lmao bro I'm 34 and bald and I bang college girls all the time!"
Show me a picture of the college girls and I'll judge.
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>>68404866
My dad is completely bald. I’m on fin 3x week. Fuck the 7x week Jew doctor recommendation. Have had zero sides and my hairline is looking healthy at 33. I hoped on at Norwood 0-1(aka minimal obvious balding) and I’m beating my dad who was Norwood 2 at 27.
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>>68417516
Why do you care so much about other men taking some kind of drug? You are either a farma shill, a retard wanting attention (you) or a troon that want others to be in the same hole as you. Stop pretending to care about others wellbeing.
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>>68417576
v nice anon, dodging sides is really the only hard part to fin.
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>>68417607
>baldies think this looks good

aw hell nah
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>>68404866
Where do I get finasteride? I'm not interested in asking my GP prescribe me some. He'll be a faggot about it. I live in the US.
Also any rough estimation of how much it costs?
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>>68417652
cost is negligible in the US for generic finasteride 5mg. there are online clinics that prescribe finasteride to anyone
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been on fin for over year, didn't notice any improvement other than a few (very few) vellus hair on my temples (it's been over 6 months and these new vellus hair didn't change into terminal hair at all), thinking about starting min too

no sides other than a lowered semen volume, libido and erections are basically the same shit, no gyno, no swealing, either
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>>68417607
would look 10x better with hair, to add insult to injury 95% of men don't have his skull shape.
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>>68404866
>26
What do I do with picrelated
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90% of stories I hear about fin are people getting horrible side effects. Not sure why anyone thinks big pharma is trustworthy in anyway at this point.
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>>68417775
anhero
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>>68417827
There's a bit of bias because people with bad effects will be more likely to share. However the 1% number is complete horseshit. The 15% is probably closer to the truth, and the reality is that more than that likely get some measure of effect but just not enough to be very remarkable.

To me fin is poison to a man. It's cool that dudes don't get effects and good for them, but objectively it fucks around not only with your endocrine system but also a shitload of other things that 5ar2 converts in your body. I think if you're a dude worried about your hair, go on microdose topical fin and min. Don't start fucking around with oral and saturate your entire body in a drug just to have some in your scalp.
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Only regret i have is not starting sooner.

Having used it for three years now both my crown and hairline have stabilized. Waking up every day knowing that you will keep your hair for as you want gives such a huge amount of confidence that i would recommend it to everyone.

Am still considering taking a hair transplant to fix my temples, but it isn't something i'm particularly worried about.
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>zoomertranny balding thread
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this finasteride shed is really not bussin fr fr
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all the side effects if any are gone the second you stop right? I don't care anymore. somone give me a resource to get some
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>>68418161
No.

Finasteride has a half life of 28 days in your tissues. If you spend a month taking 1mg of finasteride per day, then stop cold turkey due to sides, even a month after stopping you've still got 22mg of finasteride in your body in your tissues. For reference, as little as 0.5mg of finasteride still inhibits your 5ar2 enough to cut your serum DHT by 70%. This is why some guys still have side effects up to three months later, it takes forever for it to get out of your system.

However, some guys say it mostly gets better after three weeks or so. For me I've taken months off of fin and I find after about a month it starts to feel a bit more myself I notice.
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>>68418121
It literally means that you're weak hairs are replaced by better new ones. What's wrong with it?
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>>68417516
>>68417549
post a pic of your hair
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Been on it about 4 years and while it's helped regrow a decent amount, I waited way too long and was basically completely bald before starting, so there's only so much I can expect at this point. Honestly hate myself for not starting literally a decade earlier. I haven't experienced any sides and my minor gyno from puberty hasn't gotten any worse either. Fuck all the dumb faggots trying to scare/shame people away from using fin/min..being bald sucks ass.
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>>68404866
>just shave it bro!
Hair is always better than no hair. You literally cannot tell me that right looks better than left, toe rogaine looked 100x better with hair than without. With the right medicine and a good hair transplant you can stop balding almost entirely so I don't get why some give up so fucking easily but that's always the first answer I see to balding guys.
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>>68418161
Are you in the states? I used some telehealth app called lemonaid. Took like 10 min and got a script for fin. Just ask to have it sent to your own local pharmacy instead of their mail service crap. With goodrx shit costs like $25 for a year's supply.
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>>68418194
fuck it. I am going to try it
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>>68418237
>using this roided up manlet as a lookism example
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>>68418237
He is like 25 years older, you fucking retard. That's not a good comparison.
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>>68418237
Still looks better with hair
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>>68418263
Do topical. There's no point saturating your entire body in a drug just to have some in your scalp. Make up 0.005% solution and apply to your head.
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any fintrannies going to post a pic of themselves
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>>68418291
Slap a fucking wig on the bald manlet now and I guarantee he'd look better than he currently does. My point still stands, hair is always better than no hair and if you give up so easily then you're a fucking moron when you can literally cure it if you weren't such a cheap pussy.
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>>68418298
where can I get legitimate topical?
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>>68418208
Shit, they better do. It's been going on for too long. I feel like my hairline got worse too
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I literally had an appointment at a hair transplant clinic today and they recommend dutasteride after the procedure and say they have no people with sides,why are cucks still using fin when dut is 95% effective?
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>>68418363
Hims sells it.
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>>68418363
Same places you get oral, however if you do they're going to give you a 0.3% solution generally which will go systemic and defeat the entire purpose of using topical to escape sides.
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>>68418385
Fin is just the standard and is easy to get.
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>>68418366
Fin will force your hair back into a regrow state, thus shedding the miniaturized hairs that you have still left (Sometimes it can regrow already lost hair as well). The first positive results should be visible 3-6 months after the first dose, but after two years you will know if it worked for you or not.

Godspeed anon, hang in there. Nothing to lose anyway.
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I use fin and minoxidil. I really don't like minoxidil because it's made my hairline a bit unnatural looking on the sides. I've been using it for about 7 months now and haven't seen any substantial regrowth, although there are little baby hairs where there weren't any before. My hairline isn't too bad, but it bothers me that if someone where to look at me, they'd know my hairline is receding. I'm just so vain. I realise a lot more people have it much worse than I do, though. I really hope staying on fin and min will net me some better results in the near future.
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>>68418420
Nothing wrong with optimizing your life anon. We all just want the best chance of getting a qt if we're honest.
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>>68404866
You should try dutasteride OP. Fin didn't work for me at all, started taking 1,5mg of dut and got results.
You just gotta pull bigger guns
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>>68418661
Who's your supplier? Not even sure where to get dut in Canada here.
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>>68409302
You will absolutely go bald soon and you're gonna wish you'd just accepted it instead of wasting time and money on this major copium.
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>>68404866
This thread is the reason why you don’t have kids with a woman who has a bald father. DONT DO IT
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I feel like shit, dudes. Am I withdrawing from working out because I was sick yesterday?
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>>68418775
All the men on my father's side were bald. Father started balding in his 60s. My hairline has receded a bit in my mid-late 20s. But my mother's father had a full hairline well into his 90s.
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>>68418799
Balding when you’re past 60 is fine. Your looks are already gone. I don’t know what your hairline looks like but it seems like your moms side saved you if you still have hair. My moms side the guys are not bald but their hairline is receded a little. Maybe Norwood 2. My dad is 50 with a perfect hairline. So I got my moms fucked up hair genes but at the same time I also got the height from her side so I’m 6 foot. Which is a balance I guess considering my dads side are all 5’8 or shorter
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>>68417462
This basically happened to me, and I was on shit like tren, and I literally couldn't get hard, whereas normally on tren I get hard at the mere thought of someone's hole. I'd catch myself staring at tits, wanting to fuck every girl I interacted with, introduced fin and that shit completely vanished. I couldn't get hard even with someone licking on my balls or my cock, the thought of pussy was enticing, but I'd literally have a girl sit on my face and it'd do nothing, I'd stay as limp as a noodle. Some guys just get fucked by fin and there's absolutely nothing you can do to combat it, it sucks.
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>>68414366
Yep. Check out my hair when I was like 10ish. Even grown out a couple inches from a buzz you can tell its fucking atrocious
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>>68418097
>ugly baldshit seethe
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>>68418194
Half life is 4-7 hours, total turnover of affected receptors is what your citing at roughly a month. A simple internet search does wonders
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>>68419291
take your fin beta incel
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>>68418385
Dut goes nuclear on your dht which will result in sides if youre a sedentary fatass (which 75% of people are) and have too much fat aromatizing testosterone. Dut is based if youre in shape because it boosts t levels by keeping it from converting to dht, and t is anabolic unlike dht so most people who tolerate it report feeling better lifting
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>>68418775
Not how it works aaaaaaaahhh stop spreading bullshit wives tales

Almost as annoying as people still saying widows peaks are autosomal simple dominant
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>>68417485
You have subconcious stress and anxiety over it then yes it will actually change your hormone profile and cause a legit problem, the root cause though, is still nocebo
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>>68404866
I started taking it at the first sign of thinning. I’m hoping I can just make it to my wedding day with a full head of hair, I can take the baldpill then but I refuse to be thinning at my wedding
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>>68419492
You'll make it. You'll have a shedding phase off the bat but it isn't super horrible.
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>>68404866
>just castrate yourself bro
>make sure you do it as early as possible before you finish developing
>yes it is normal this is the same drug that is prescribed to trannies
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>>68405552
oral nizoral is given to men with prostate cancer to chemically castrate them

if you are dermarolling it will go directly into your bloodstream
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>>68408351
yeah they also take dutasteride to feminise themselves lmao
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>>68404915
Own that shit, homo.
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>>68415154
if I rub minox on my head I get heart palpitations within 5 minutes lmao
literally rebranded blood pressure medication
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>>68419390
>>68418385
dht is extremely androgenic, unlikely test
dutasteride is unironically the number one tranny drug for a reason
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>he's not at Norwood 5
not gonna make it
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>>68419314
No, the half life in your blood is 4-7 hours. I'm talking about in your tissues. A simple google search does wonders.
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I think most of the faggots whining about “who cares what women think” and “pharma jew poison” are either underage/not balding. When you start seeing your temples receding and big bald spot growing on your temple, I guarantee you will start wanting to take fin.
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>>68404866
nope, look up danny roddy hairloss on youtube and you can stop balding without castrating yourself
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>>68422553
>believing a business major scammer who thinks cutting out oils, nuts, and going vegan is the magic cure to balding
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Why are random faggors obsessed with making sure other random faggots are taking their prostate enlargement meds. Why do you care if I go bald, or anyone else but yourself for that matter? ZK0J8P
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>>68422741
>why care about anybody else’s well being other than my own
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I'm NW2/3 and started fin at the age of 28. Did it for 2 years and it probably stopped some receding for sure and didn't give me any significant sides. However, I did have a lot of depressive and suicidal thoughts over these years. I don't know how linked those are but my lifestyle before and after hasn't really changed except for the pills (that coincidentally affect your hormones). No sides other than this.
I'm 30 now and stopped with it because there's only so long I can keep postponing the inevitable and I gotta learn to accept it eventually.

My advice to guys considering it - if you're really insecure about your hairloss, then try it 3x/week and see how you feel. If you're generally a depressed person then it will likely enhance your depression and make you hate life even more. If you're under 25, then don't touch it. It's really not worth messing with your brain development for a few more years of hair. Remember that fin doesn't stop balding, it just slows it down and whether you like it or not you will be having to make trade offs with your hormones once you hop on it.

Good luck balding-bros. I wish the media and modern women didn't psyop so many young men into chemically harming themselves, but it is what it is and we all have one life.
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>>68418851
As if the receding hairline wasn't enough, I've been getting white hairs appearing every week for the past few months. I just pluck them out, but it bothers me knowing I might miss one and someone will see it. I'm too young for this shit dammit
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>>68404915
step 1: stop letting 4chan tell you what to think about your body
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>>68422799

>wellbeing
Nigger its just hair. Unironically anybody balding and taking fin for it should be offed. Your hair will not stop you from being a genetic dead end.
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>>68423151
This isn’t 4chans opinion, this is real life. People literally treat you different the uglier you look. Balding before 50 reduces your chances of social and financial success
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is it 1/4 of 5mg daily enough to prevent balding?
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i hopped on finasteride for a while but it turns out my hairloss was purely stress related. though sometimes I'll get the balding itch
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>>68423370
depends on how your body responds to it. you could get regrowth or it could only slow down balding
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>>68423363
>Balding before 50 reduces your chances of social and financial success
Source a 4chins virgin that still live with his parents.
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>>68423318
>Bro just look like shit. Appearances don't matter bro
Cope
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>>68423641
They don't lol. Stop trying to play the game.
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>>68423549
>what are models
>attractive actors with no talent in major movies
>onlyfans
>egirls
>not a single vtuber voluntarily chooses to look ugly
You're fucking delusional if you don't think the blackpill is BS
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>>68423809
>stop trying to look good bro
>start looking like a fugly dude
You should give crystal cafe a visit, women aren't genuinely attracted to sub8 men
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>>68420955
Nizoral is a mainstream dandruff shampoo used by countless people, if it had any nightmare side effects from topical application we would know by now.
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>>68404866
I'm Norwood 6 bros..Is it over?
I'm also 47, married and have kids so....
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>>68406877
Going to say I had a similar experience with it not saying ITS POISON ONLY JEWISH SHILLS WANT YOU TO TAKE IT just would like to relay and honest experience so people can make their own decisions
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>>68423833
>crystal cafe
>women
That place is full of trannys. The few women that frequent that place are mentally ill social rejects, their opinion doesn't matter. You need to get out more.
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>>68423935
i stopped nizoral because i started getting more grey hairs and i started to think that was the cause. after i stopped i didnt get as many grey hairs
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>>68405552
show me one study that shows that essential oil do anything
>inb4 shaved mous stuy or some shit
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>>68404866
>enslave yourself to the pharmaceutical Jew just to have shitty hair a bit longer
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>>68423833
The harder you try to more it will hurt lol. Who said you were entitled to look good? You're like a child that can't accept reality
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>>68418405
Yeah, that's how I'm coping right now since my head is full of those shitty miniaturized hairs so hopefully I shed them for stronger ones.
But at the same time I'm kinda paranoid that Fin is not working at all and my MPB is just progressing further. Gotta give it some more time I guess
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I started fin 2 weeks ago, 1mg eod. I’ve noticed that my hair has pretty much immidiately stopped falling out. Used to get a bunch of hairs in the shower, or ruffling my head. Also noticed my sleep is a lot deeper and harder to wake up, kinda like this desu due to the crazy dreams. Libido has gotten little higher, probably due to extra free test in body.
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I'm 21. I think I started receding around a year ago, but didn't notice till December.
It got really bad this summer - I have this constant sharp pain/aching in my scalp that I assume is the DHT absolutely destroying my hair. I've been to see my Doctor and he said I wasn't receding, but I know I am. I wanted to start on a topical solution like those mentioned in this thread (fin and minoxidil), primarily to keep my hair, but also to stop this debilitating pain in my scalp. It feels horrible and I'd really like it to stop. Does anyone have a similar experience and did the pain go away after starting on treatment? Thanks.
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>>68425807
>pain
I dint think that's balding. Maybe causing some balding, but not male pattern. You should see (another) doctor. It's likely something else
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>>68425807
Assuming it’s not a scalp fungus, fin should work. DHT attacks on hair usually feel like burning sind stour hair follicles become inflamed. All you can do is try it
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>>68404866
>take tranny drugs
No
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>>68426251
why spam your face? You don't have diffuse thinning and prove nothing. You look fine. Now respond to yourself with the Russian czar pic
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>>68426301
>why spam your face?
Why spam shill about taking tranny drugs across all boards?
>You don't have diffuse thinning and prove nothing.
You can tell all that from a single picture, that right?
>You look fine.
Kinda the point, that rather than being a soiboy and taking tranny drugs to hold on to your hairline, it's better to embrace being a man and just get some more muscle. You can't stay a boy forever anon.
>Now respond to yourself with the Russian czar pic
why would I respond to myself? You okay bro?
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>>68408334
ffs when you write shit like that WRITE A DOSAGE so it's actually useful and not an empty shill
Preferably body weight as well
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>>68426407
I'm anti all spamming. Both pseudo-tripfags and pharma shills alike. If you have diffuse thinning post your crown and I'll concede. You're right I can't tell from this picture, but I also can't tell from the other dozen of your face you post
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>>68420955
The chemical is ketoconazole you retard, nizoral is a shampoo brand that carries a nonprescription amount of it. Oral ketoconazole is hugely toxic and not in usage anywhere, topical application is entirely safe and the most commonly used chemical to deal with dandruff.
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>>68405328
>>68405809
Lol don't listen to insecure fucks dude. Most dudes look fine with their head shaved. You just can't dress like a faggot.
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>>68426530
> If you have diffuse thinning post your crown and I'll concede.
What exactly will you concede to?
>You're right I can't tell from this picture, but I also can't tell from the other dozen of your face you post
You mean the posts on /fa/ hairgeneral, where I'm discussing my facial hair? Doesn't it seem logical that unless you see my crown you can't tell whats happening there?
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>>68419390
fin and dut have exactly the same mechanism of action. Dut is just stronger
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>>68426678
Then what the fuck is the point of posting the picture?
>I don't need hair drugs even though I'm balding, look at this picture!
>oh I may look like shit because to my thinning, but you can't see it due to the angle of the picture
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>>68426950
>Then what the fuck is the point of posting the picture?
Don't take tranny drugs, be a man. Hairline going is a relatively expected thing for a man. You aren't a woman who by all accounts and hormones should keep her hair.
>I don't need hair drugs even though I'm balding, look at this picture!
yes you can clearly see the receding and thinning of the hair at the front.
>oh I may look like shit because to my thinning, but you can't see it due to the angle of the picture
You seem to think that the point is to be as ugly as possible any why am I not showing off every flaw possible. But if that was the point, why not just take a buzz cut and chop my hair randomly so it's completely deranged and patchy. That's where your logic would go.
Frankly it just seems you don't have any sensible point and are just seething at anything you can.
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>>68427079
>You seem to think that the point is to be as ugly as possible any why am I not showing off every flaw possible.
No you retard, the point is that pictures which you carefully select for your blogposts like a teenage girl don't represent what you actually look like irl.
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>>68427148
>No you retard, the point is that pictures which you carefully select for your blogposts like a teenage girl don't represent what you actually look like irl.
You sound really insecure if that is going through your mind when you see an image of somebody else.
like
>don't represent what you actually look like irl.
How do you know this even? Have you seen me in real life? Are you just making this up without anything real to go off on?
Did you think even a little before you started reflexively seething?
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>>68427205
>How do you know this even?
See:
>You don't have diffuse thinning and prove nothing.
>You can tell all that from a single picture, that right?
So either you're full of shit and don't actually have diffuse thinning that would make one consider hair loss drugs, or you do have diffuse thinning but are hiding it with camera tricks.
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>>68427205
Why are you trying to cope so hard? If you’re really so obsessed with being a real manly man go ahead and be bald and ugly
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>>68427339
Why do you care if he copes? why would you care if he shaves and become an "ugly bald man?" you have issues, boy.
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>>68427339
>respond to a guy seething at me for apparently looking too good or bad or something
>why are you coping
not how it works anon
>>68427297
>So either you're full of shit and don't actually have diffuse thinning that would make one consider hair loss drugs
So what you are saying is
>it doesn't count, your hairloss is not bad enough to consider tranny drugs , which is why you can reject them
is that right?
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>>68409128
>led
>formaldahyde
kill yourself
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>>68427415
>>it doesn't count, your hairloss is not bad enough to consider tranny drugs , which is why you can reject them
Not quite, but close. You're at a point where you should've started way sooner if you wanted to keep a good head of hair for the next couple of decades, but it's also visually not so bad yet so it's easy for you to cope with hair loss.
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>>68427410
I don’t care if he’s bald, but I don’t get why he tries to stop everyone else from keeping their hair
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>>68417462
I'm taking 1.25mg fin, zero sides. Strange how some people get so many sides, maybe a nocebo? Aching balls is really fucking strange.
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>>68417607
>posts picture of a good looking man with the terrible handicap of being bald
a classic for baldcels
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>>68427455
>Not quite, but close. You're at a point where you should've started way sooner if you wanted to keep a good head of hair for the next couple of decades, but it's also visually not so bad yet so it's easy for you to cope with hair loss.
If it gets worse I'l just get a horse shoe haircut, thats all.
But it's funny that essentially you are telling me I'm not balding enough to have a voice in the matter.
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>>68427558
Ok maybe you'll have absolutely zero issues with going from a Nicholas larper to a Lenin larper, but there's also a very real possibility is that the only reason why you're capable of coping is that you do not look like Lenin in the present moment.
Either way, it's really strange of you to assume that everyone is alright with looking like Lenin when you do not even have the experience yourself.
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>>68421016
>dutasteride is unironically the number one tranny drug for a reason
the number one drug is testosterone
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>>68408240
>>68408231
>>68408975
>>68410696
>>68418303
>>68426251
You tards realize trannies also take Testosterone right? You know, to "transition" to males?
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>>68427509
Maybe because of the dangers of the drug?? and he cares about others and hate the constant shilling and trolling on the board? I'm thinning too, my hair still looks "good enough" I almost bought finasteride, I could potentially have fucked over my life for that decision (or maybe not) is like russian roullete. Taking that kind of chemicals is not something to take lightly. I agree with him, it's better to take the bull by the horns than use a crutch.
4chan is not a hugbox. There will always be oposition to your opinion or ideas, that way people can have proper judgement and decide for themselves.
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>>68404871
You must have lots of hair
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>>68427558
>bro don’t worry, just rock being bald, it’s all about confidence and being a man
>oh me? no I’m not balding but I for sure will look great and be confident when it happens
Kys faggot
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>>68427592
>but there's also a very real possibility is that the only reason why you're capable of coping is that you do not look like Lenin in the present moment.
You sure you aren't the one coping here by projecting your feelings on to others? I can imagine myself in a different form and how I would feel, the future is bright.

>Either way, it's really strange of you to assume that everyone is alright with looking like Lenin when you do not even have the experience yourself.
Comrades we must reject the tranny drugs, they are a bourgeois vice and a way for the capitalist jews to confused and disarm the proletariat!

>>68427663
literally balding as we speak
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>>68427652
You have absolutely no idea how you would react with fin. The vast majority of people who take it have little to no sides and usually it’s a matter of managing dosage. Fin half life is pretty short so you could have tried it for a month or two to see how things go. Instead youve been completely scaremongered into going bald. Hope you can own that hairline recession as well as you believe you can.
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>>68427702
Why don't you do a test run and shave the top of your head and leave the horseshoe? Try having that style for a couple of months and see how well your imagination matches reality.
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>>68427635
Stop trying to be a smartass. You know we are talking about mtf troons.
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>>68427711
>You have absolutely no idea how you would react with fin.
True, that's why I decided not to use it. Using finasteride could be the best, it could be the worst or a middle ground. I didn't want to take that risk.
Being able to fuck, no depression > hair
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>>68427741
>Why don't you do a test run and shave the top of your head and leave the horseshoe?
>shave
nah, buzz at lowest setting should be good enough and I planned to do just that come next spring
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>>68427810
but you won't be able to fuck without hair because no woman likes a baldy and you will be depressed because of it haha
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>>68427662
I started going bald almost five years ago.
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>>68404866
I’ve taken fin 1mg daily for 5 months now, and had no side effects besides 2 positive effects. For some reason my ejaculation size literally doubled around 3 days after taking it, and it’s remained that way ever since. My sex drive also has like tripled. I went from being horny a couple times per week to easily being able to get off 3 times a day and still not be dry. It’s weird since most people report the opposite, sexual dysfunction. I know finasteride can treat enlarged prostrate so maybe I’ve always had one and just didn’t know it? No clue, but I’m in my 20s. I also suspect that I was/am low test and maybe fin help stabilize my levels since test isn’t being converted into DHT anymore, therefore slightly increasing test levels. Combining fin, min and dermarolling has brought me from a norwood 3 vertex to a norwood 2 in those 5 months, with big thickness increases all around my head and the crown filled back in (had about a quarter size bald spot before). Thanks for reading my blog and I recommend this treatment to all my fellow balding bros.
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>>68427810
>Being able to fuck, no depression > hair
You're not going to be fucking anyone when your disgusting bald head exposes you for being genetic trash, you coping egghead
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>>68427899
Also forgot I use ketoconazole shampoo but that might just be a meme.
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>>68427911
what type - Nizoral? Is it the 1 or 2%? Very confused about the Ketoconazole meme.
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>>68427842
>>68427901
I'm fucking regularly with a receding hairline and thinning crown. It will be the same when I'm totally bald.
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>>68405575
literally same, if you experience this go to >>68405552
best "natural" solution that doesnt fuck with hormones too much
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>>68427960
DS Laboratories. More expensive but it is actually good shampoo and leaves my hair nice, unlike Nizoral which makes everything dry and itchy. Supposedly it decreases DHT on the scalp externally while the fin does the same with hair follicles internally, but doubtful how effective it can be in the 5-10 minutes that I leave it in.
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>>68405552
how often on derma? weekly? how u often apply oil?
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>>68427960
Also 1% sorry. I think 2% requires a prescription.
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>>68427819
>inb4 he ends up looking good and all the people will seethe that of course he can cope with baldness when he looks good bald, you aren't ugly like me abloo abloo bloooo
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>>68424118
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25842469/
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>>68428004
thank you mate, appreciate the reply.
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>>68427965
>It will be the same when I'm totally bald
No it won't you genetic dead-end balding retard. Enjoy the last few years you have to fuck prime pussy because once your hair is gone you will only be able to attract ugly old hags at best kek
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Does Milk & Dairy products increase hair loss?
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>>68427410
Either a jewish shill here to peddle product,
it is after all a drug you will have to take for the rest of your life, regularly, think of the profits of selling something like that, it used to be smoking and alcohol back in the day, but these days they need to expand their market and reign in those profits. If men aren't insecure about something, MAKE them insecure and then sell them the solution.
or a depressed tranny that wants other to be like him, suicidal.

>>68427842
>but you won't be able to fuck without hair because no woman likes a baldy and you will be depressed because of it haha
REMINDER TRANNYES ARE ON SUICIDE AND THEY WANT YOU TO BE AS WELL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fefu33e8O-0&t=3044s
Do no take fin baldfags, embrace being a man instead of taking tranny drugs!
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>>68404866
I take finasteride. The only side effect is a slight decrease in sex drive, but I used to fap 2-3 times a day, so being less-horny is actually a good thing for me lol.
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>>68428268
ffs if you post your experience INCLUDE THE DOSAGE, HOW OFTEN AND FOR HOW LONG BEEN TAKING
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>>68428268
>here is why fin killed my sex drive, AND THATS A GOOD THING
>t.huffinton post
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Question: Why use any of these pills and not just do a full transplant? I get that some of you don't have the monk/crown pattern. But if the back and sides are still full of hair while the top has thinned tk the max, isn't doing a transplant THE solution? Or do you have to supplement the transplant with pills too?

I do know you have to transplant more over the years, I just don't get touching any pills at all.
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>>68428295
If you get a transplant you'll have to get on finasteride too.
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>>68428412
Why? You can just let little by little go until you do another transplant right?
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>>68404866
Fin gave one of my friends ED and the other gyno.

Don't waste your money on this tranny dice roll drug
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>>68428412
I fucked up >>68428314
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>>68428423
From what I read the transplanted hair will not fall, but the normal hair you had before will. So, you will end up almost the same. And there seems to be a limit of how many of your hair they can use. Some people need more, some less, but at the end it will be a losing battle without fin.
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>>68428314
You have a limited number of follicles on your head. Hair transplants work by strategically shuffling these follicles around to make it look like you're not losing hair.
As you continue losing hair, the effectiveness of hair transplants goes down because you're trying to juggle a constantly decreasing number of follicles along a static surface area.
The bottom line is that while the hair from the back and sides of your head is more resistant to balding, the full horseshoe pattern does not contain enough follicles to cover the whole head.
tldr yeah you need to take the drugs even if you wanna do transplants
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>>68404866
I take fin but I don't notice any side effects like no boners, watery cum, or gyno because I also roid use test and HCG
uhh natties BTFO?
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everyone's hair receeds. just because youve noticed it starting doesnt mean youll end up lie OP's pic.
if men in your family arent bald like that you dont have anything to worry about
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>>68409128
>>68404929
This is just demotivational garbage. If you recognize that the world you live in is full of constant exposure to toxins, you can either be like these two fags and shrug and say
>oh well, i guess it doesn't matter, might as well poison myself more
or you can learn and apply yourself and reduce your exposure as much as possible. I'm exposed to a tiny fraction of what the average person is exposed to because I take steps to avoid it, and I take steps to mitigate the damage from what I do get exposed to.

For example,
>microplastics in everything
Stop using plastic food/drink containers, stop wearing plastic clothes. Regularly donate blood to help remove what gets into you anyway. Congratulations, you now have a level of microplastic exposure that's 1/50th of what the average person gets.
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>>68428544
>This is just demotivational garbage
It's the favorite tactics to get people to accept unreasonable things.
>it's pointless, why resist, you can't have perfection so why even try to avoid anything at all, take the full beating
etc.
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>>68404866
This. If you do get sides, opt for topical. Has helped me a lot. Might look into topical dutasteride. I'm lucky as fuck to have had only thinning.
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>>68424581
Some of us aren't far gone like you nigger
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>>68404866
Sorry but I hate these Jews so I’m just going to shave my head. You will never get my shekels or be a woman.
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>>68428123
y did u use a edit where its all patchy and he didn't just shave it all off so it would look better. Even as it is he looks good albeit ungroomed. Y are you so negative be nice :D
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>>68429244
It may be negative but it is the truth. That guy went from a 9 to 6 at best
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>>68428959
This is pretty sad damn
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>>68428426
your friend doesn’t have a dick and the other has no nipples. Stop bullshitting people
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>>68427544
It always works, make trannys like you seethe.
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>>68427901
Calling someone a genetic dead-end is a pretty bad way to advertise a product. Now it just sounds like you're coping.
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Would using only topical minox like Rogaine be enough for diffuse thinning? I'm afraid of using fin because of the side effects.
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>>68423370
In 90% of cases yes.

In fact for most men, 1mg per day is overkill.
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>>68427529
Human biodiversity is a gigantic spectrum.

>nocebo
Can't fool morning wood.
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>>68412774
only the transplanted hairs stay-non transplanted hairs die due to mpb. so u still have to prevent balding after ht too

Best is to get a hair system if ur refusing meds so hard
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>>68430457
mainstream news was making a big deal about a new study that showed efficacy for taking roagine orally
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>>68428478
>>68428475
Damn I really thought you'd always have enough candidate follicles around the hroseshoe.

Worst case scenario though can't you just settle for a full top and always shave the sides and back?

I ask all this to try and avoid the drugs as much as possible.
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>>68404895
Takes a few months to see results.
I just started it two days ago. I finally caved because the center front of my hairline has been shedding bad. Honesty I probably waited too long but I think I can get back to something presentable.
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>>68423549
Look up the Halo Effect, specifically in relation to looks. Stop being delusional. There is nothing for you to gain by denying the truth. Humans are extremely superficial and shallow and if you are ugly you are effectively doomed in many regards. Being bald with an ugly face and an ugly skull shape can be akin to a social death sentence. It is only natural that young men wish to prevent this fate for themselves.
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>>68428959
ffs gootecks... hope he's doing alright in street fighter at least...
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>>68430550
Your mental state literally directly affects your hormones, so yes, you can fool morning wood and plenty of other unconscious or reflexive phenomena. I still wake up with morning wood, maybe stop being fat
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Fuck no. Latest research shows fucking with you dht like that is way worse than hair loss. Just accept and move on. Wear a top hat or something.
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>>68428146
Only if you are severely allergic, otherwise negligible. Nothing other than dht and chronic stress/thyroid/autoimmune stuff is really significant for hairloss
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>>68428496
Natty with healthy t levels and 0 sides, its mainly just whiny fatties or hypochondriac that bitch about sides
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>>68430457
Minoxidil is the devil, you have to take it forever to keep the hair and it loses efficacy over time, not to mention it doesnt stop the underlying hair loss at all. Also fucks with your heart which to me is a way bigger deal than messing with hormones that only low t people miss. Itll work for a couple years maybe if your thinning is slow and minor but its kinda silly to take over anything else
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>>68410696
>nobody gives a shit about your hair
Well women do
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>>68432089
>as a bald retard, le studies show being bald is actually better than taking drugs to grow your hair

kek, you would say that wouldn't you bald head ass
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>start balding but don't give a fuck
>eventually go bald
>suddenly realize you don't look like jason statham and can't fuck young girls anymore
>midlifecrisis.wav
>desperately try everything from proven treatments to donkey piss empowered by healing crystals
>nothing works because you let the balding go too far
>"a-at least I'm not breaking my dick with fin"
>spend the rest of your days spreading fud about hair loss treatments
Why are they like this?
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>>68404866
>tfw in the 5% that looks better bald
>6'3
>frame
>face
>7 incher
>140+ IQ (the test administrator said the normal tests can only reliably predict IQ up to about 140)
Life is good
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hey bros, has someone any experience with pic rel? at least in europe it's shilled big time
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Is pumpkin seed oil any good?
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>>68432478
Expensive and doesn't do shit against male balding

>t. used it regularly for a year
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>>68404866
It is fucking insane how much this board obsesses over hairlines. Nigga, there are 20 somethings in this thread right now with pristine hairlines that get absolutely zero pussy.
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>>68433860

hair does help but you still need social skills and talk to girls
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>>68433987
Just don't jerk off. It really is.. that simple.
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Been on fin for 4 years and have started fapping to tranny porn and seeing tranny escorts in that time. Not sure if it's related
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>>68406483
This.
t. people started treating me noticeably worse after I started noticeably balding.
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>>68404866
yeah I use topical and I don't even notice it anymore, it's been like a year
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>>68432538
https://purador.com/products/anti-hair-thinning-shampoo-with-coal-tar

This is about as hard as you can fall for the herbal meme.
I use this shampoo daily and have for a few weeks.

I noticed very bad shedding shortly after I started BUT this coincided with my schedule changing so I can only apply minox once a day.

So two possibilities:
> shed from minox deprivation and I'm fucked
> shed because this stuff actually works and good hair will grow in after
The shed was bad enough that I caved and started taking finasteride which further taints any data I might be able to give you.
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>7 weeks fin and minox
>still shedding and probably thinning

It should stop soon?
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>>68434692
>7 weeks
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>>68430309
>It always works, make trannys like you seethe.
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>>68428544
>Stop using plastic food/drink containers, stop wearing plastic clothes.
You don't ingest microplastics through the use of plastic containers, it's the tiny particles that are literally everywhere from discarded plastic trash that slowly "break down." Donating blood might be okay but and it's always good to avoid plastic, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're cutting back on microplastics by not buying bottled water. The damage is already done worldwide.
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>been on fin for over a year (1mg every other day)
>bad shed at the start but then nothing
>past week I've noticed hairs both long and short being shed
Is it over? Do I need to up it to every day?
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>>68428231
>you have to take it for the rest of your life
Wtf are you talking about, this doesn’t give you withdrawals you absolute faggot
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>>68435645
>he doesn't know
HAHAHHA wOW
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>>68429295
>right is a 6
top kek post a selfie
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>>68435713
Keep your mouth shut before I shove my tranny dick into it, YOUR GIVING UP THE GAME
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>>68433860
zoomers are literally OBSESSED with hairlines and balding
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>>68435747
he still has strong masculine features/jawline. he would be a 6 if fully shaved and maybe some beard. Reminds me of 47
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>>68404866
Does this work for black guys? Not balding but might need this information in the future
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>>68435784
>implying he's lower than a 6 with any hairstyle
post a selfie you beta
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>>68417775
Fin and $3000-5000 transplant will fix that. Really not much money for perfect hair.
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>>68435759
>zoomers are literally OBSESSED with AGING
FTFY. What will happen in 5-10 years when they reach their 30s? Mass suicides??
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>>68419242
That's a widows peak, stupid.
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>>68436003
respectfully, no cap hopefully fr fr
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>>68436003
>Mass suicides??
Its already starting, with the trannies
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>>68435645
If you ever stop taking fin or min, you lose all the hair you got with it very fast. Dumb retard who didn't do any research lol
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>>68435795
What would you rate him
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>>68436059
You fucking idiot l said WITHDRAWALS. Of course you lose hair when you stop taking it but your body doesn’t suffer the same physical and mental dependency problems you’d get when quitting something like benzos or ssris
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>>68436123
That is a withdrawal symptom by definition. And that's what the guy you were responding to was talking about. Retarded faggot.
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>>68436144
ywnbaw
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>>68436151
Cope and seethe, room temperature IQ.
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>>68434769

How long does it take
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>>68436144
Know the difference between withdrawals and side effects
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>>68434985
Fin makes many of your follicles sync up their shedding cycle when you start.
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>>68432063
No you legit cannot. A person who has normal morning wood who then does not after taking fin hasn't mentally tricked their body into no longer performing its routine button check every night. It's the drug they're taking that directly affects their endocrine system.
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I'm not scared of fin or min. I'm just not financially able to commit to being on them long-term, and I'm definitely too lazy and unstable to keep a consistent schedule on them as well. I'm 26 and have quite the high/receding hairline btw, but I also don't care. I'll probably shave it all off by 30. If the effects were semi-permanent, I'd maybe consider taking them more seriously, but by that logic I should just save up for implants instead.
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>>68436341
A full transplant when you are done balding will be like 25k, if you have enough donor hair. 30 bucks every three months for generic fin gives you 40 years of hair for about $5000. And it will probably be covered by your insurance.
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>>68436449
Not everyone is privileged enough to have insurance. I'm also genetically predisposed to gyno and erectile dysfunction, so come to think of it I am pretty scared and hesitant because of that.
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>>68436478
>privilege
He compared the costs and one is clearly superior fuckwit.
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>>68436527
Simmer down.
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>>68436540
Make me nigger.
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I'm just waiting for phase 3 trials of Pyri and FDA approval then I'll get a transplant and hop on that. Look up the research, the cure's finally coming bros
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>>68436478
Forget about insurance, are saying you can’t afford $30 bucks every 3 months? ( Walmart charges me 25 btw)
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>>68436562
Looks promising but lmao if you think it will be fda approved before 2026 at least. You’ll probably have to ship it in from china
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>>68436685
You can already buy it, just depends on how brave and stupid you are.
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>>68436562
That's way too long of a wait if it even gets FDA approved.
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>>68436004
Yea no shit. But it's also have a really high hairline along with that widows peak, similar to the hairline people get as they lose their hair. Not everyone starts with a low hairline
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>>68434363
>hair falling out when not on fin
>must be one of the things im taking
Have you considered that if you have dht and mpb youre hair will naturally do that shedding bullshit? If its recent tho and youre a good fin responder itll all come back, usually takes years for follicles to die even after going dormant.
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>>68434692
Youre on the best treatment short of dut and a topical antiandrogen, you no longer get anything by worrying about hair loss, know that you've addressed it and just let the stuff work. Also ya 7 weeks is short as fuck, fin hyper responders get gains in a few months but in all the studies normal people continue to thicken up for years after starting and its at like 1-2 years you see the nicest stuff usually.
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>>68435793
Yes. Doesnt fix balding from pulling your hair into retarded braids though so go easy on it, nothing brings back tension alopecia
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>>68436562
Lol those phase 2 result suck ass and it’s just another anti androgen. Complete dead end treatment path and absolutely nowhere near any kind of cure
Get out of here
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>>68437407
>Lol those phase 2 result suck ass
how do they suck? phase 2 results show that pyrilutamide is significantly more effective than finasteride and dutasteride

>it’s just another anti androgen.
What is your point? antiandrogen topicals can be very effective at treating hair loss. also, pyrilutamide is the only antiandrogen to have large-scale studied conducted on it to evaluate its efficacy and safety profile
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never touching fin but I might consider a hair transplant if they develop a way to regenerate donor hair which seems to be likely
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>>68437462
Whats the sides profile?
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>>68437462
22 hair va placebo which grew 15 hairs.. that is nothing and just barely stat significant. Side effects will be same as ru4881 or whatever it was (gyno and all the fin sides)
Move on. Any actual ‘cure’ will absolutely have nothing to do with androgen
Blocking
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>>68437250
I mean I never had a real shedding phase when I started minox so I think I might be a nonresponder.
My hair loss has been progressive, this shedding was unlike anything I'd ever seen, I assumed it was something I did.
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>>68436059
Not for fin, only min results in total shed. Going off fin just removes the protection from the hair so they will fall out soon but they arent tied to it like with min.
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>>68437920
>Going off fin just removes the protection from the hair
I'm curious, does fin "reset the clock" so to speak?
Like, I lost hair around my temples earlier than in the middle of my hairline. If I'm on fin for a few years and grow back all those hairs, will it take as long for them to fall back out as it did the first time around?
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>>68426427
Sorry. 1 mg Finasteride. 5'10 and 165 pounds.
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Is it the end for me? I had long hair twice in my life. I cut the first time because I noticed the same lack of hair at the top of my haird and cut them to see if I actually lacked hair. Cutting them made this line and hole disappear.
Now, I have them even longer than before but damn, the past few days, I feel like I'm actually going bald.
I'm scared brehs
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>>68436301
Nigger the adrenal system is endocrine and affects massively the rest of your hormones. If youre depressed for a while, or stressed, or angry, or anything, it affects your hormones, like on the order of halving your testosterone if you were stressed for a couple days. Stress makes you have wet dreams and sleep paralysis, what sort of mental gymnastics does it take to think that cant affect morning wood.
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>>68438024
If you had grown it back to the exact same density and thickness maybe, but they'd also likely be more sensitized to dht after levels were lowered so it might happen faster again, though thats just conjecture. Its also unlikely youd ever get the same amount of density as when you had juvenile hair, by the time you lose hair somewhere, some of its been gone for years but you just never noticed
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>>68438549
Looks like female pattern hair loss lol
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Does regular scalp massage have any effect on slowing down balding? Can it make it worse?



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