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dammit op, I'll fucking finish the pastebin

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POST STACKS

i'm currently trying to move from an ABCABCrest rotation to an ABABABrest rotation because i want to and can hit parts 3 times a week, not just 2.

the problem i'm running into is where to fit in OHP. if i do it on A then i do it straight after bench which fucks it. if I do it on B then i don't recover from bench in time for the next day.

if i rotate it (bench first on first workout, OHP first on second workout, repeat) then i'm still only achieving 2 good workouts for one of them per week and i'm actually down to ONE good workout per week for the other.

i ask here because i'm a roidtranny and natties would just tell me not to train so much.

any tips?

>>67847802
Just alternate variations. Like one day, do ohp first then some dumbbell chest press after. While the next time, do bench press first and dumbbell ohp. So you go heaviest on chest on the bench press day, heaviest on shoulders on barbell ohp day.

>>67847841
yeah but that's what i meant by not getting in the three good workouts i'm looking for.

if i do bench first then OHP suffers; if i do OHP first then bench suffers. i usually have to drop about 5-10kg off my top set to hit 10 reps, or drop 2 or 3 reps. would that impede growth?

i suppose getting the extra volume matters less than losing a bit of weight every other workout, right?

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>>67846740
>Pinnin' For Her
roiding=simping

Just got 100 insuline syringes, NPP and testo P in the mail. Bought a gym membership last week. What am I in for boyoos

>>67847858
Well, you can think of it as activating different stabilizers when you switch between dumbbell and barbell. You're still getting good activation. I like to do single handed dumbbell ohp just to knock off the balance a bit.

>>67847908
gyno and eventually a neck extension because your a retard for roiding without even lifting a day in your life, nigger

>>67847908
no idea, i'm in the same boat. i'm going on ~200mg of test a week, having never lifted or done steroids before.
i figured that after ruining my body and test levels for ~30 years, bringing myself up to a superphysiological level of test and working out probably won't kill me

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>>67847908
Test Prop is dogshit, alot of oil to pin for not much else. NPP is da bomb tho.
>>67848001
>superphysiological level of test
I thought we bullied all the MPMD faggots outta here, 200mg of test ain't shit lmao

>>67848159
>200mg of test ain't shit lmao
i'd rather start with room to add more than go through the bostin loyd method. 200mg a week as a base dose seems safe enough to stay on

on over a gram of test and every week I get leaner while stronger and bigger
also eating whatever I want

why havent you done over a gram of test yet?

>>67848386
How can you even tell you are getting leaner with so much bloat? I ran 1G test-e with 400 tren-e and I was super bloated, although the gains were good and I didn’t put on much fat after I lowered the test and pissed out all the water weight.

>>67848441
what bloat?
pinch test on stomach also more veins popping out and better definition

>>67848159
>NPP is da bomb tho.
Why is NPP three times the cost of deca!?

>>67848386
>>67848441
Just started 1gr test and 400 masteron.
The mast is keeping the bloat away

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>>67848216
>500 mg test makes you bostin loyd level crazy
lmao, no. Also enjoy spinning your wheels for months boomer, then you'll up the dose.
>>67848386
poor mans bulk
>>67848602
cus it doesn't take three years to hit your system like deca does. Also it's like 150 bucks for 100gs of it. So eh.

Do I need to pct if I'm only doing 200mg of test-e weekly? I lost 30 lbs from a stomach virus and i just wanna get back to where i was man

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>>67849426
i see youre also doing 200mg a week do you plan to PCT or nah?

>>67849429
fuck meant to reference my post to yours
>>67848001

>>67849429
i don't plan on ever coming off desu. worst case scenario i drop to like 100mg for trt.

>>67848534
Wait till your e2 slowly builds up, then it'll hit you overnight.

>>67849796

accurate

>>67849796
why would e2 build up when im taking aromasin?
if anything im feeling low e2 right now

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Damn I scrolled like 3 three times in the catalogue looking for the thread on my phone. I thought this shit died at like 10 replies lmao

How’s everyone doing? Listening to Sorority Noise and Modern Baseball while working out so that’s night

>>67849051
>cus it doesn't take three years to hit your system like deca does. Also it's like 150 bucks for 100gs of it. So eh.
I hear you about the deca. I'm using up a big stash of it but gonna graduate to NPP in the future.

>>67850059
Just woke up and pinned 280mg test C in left deltoid. Bout to hit them legs while blasting afsky. Life is great.

Everybody says massage the injection point but I've had mixed results. I tried foam rolling my VL last night after I put 300mg of deca in it and it really did the charm. Some of you may want to try it, just a thought.

What drugs cancel out the negative side effects of finasteride?

>>67851872
Test would probably do the trick, but who wanna have to pin for the rest of their lifes? Haha lmao imagine that (what a dream hnnnnng)

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>>67846740
Gonna pin til' the moment I lose track of time and space staring into her gaping anal. By then it'll all be worth it, I will be stuck in that moment for all eternity - formulating infinity deep inside of me

Gonna get on test-e been lifting for 10 years and im sure im low t im 34yo. Dont get morning bonera anymore. Planning on staying on ot forever what is the dose to stary ot and how does blast n cruise work.

test-c second time pinning, noticed my face gets really warm/hot an hour or two after each. Anything to worry about, or is that normal? I've been low test all my life.

>>67851863
I dont see how massaging can help it would only force the bolus of oil through the muscle causing more trauma right? It might hurt less but wouldn't it damage more?

>>67852644
Holy fuck anon you are 34 years old have you not learned how to fucking read? You just come in here and ask us to cum basic information right into your mouth? Why? Why would I help you?

Anyway 500mg/wk testosteorne enathanate injecting every 3.5 days for 16 weeks is your blast then drop to anywhere between 100-200mg per week for cruise. Get bloods during your cruise to make sure you're achieving normal levels of serum testosterone. Time on = time off is a safe rule of thumb for blast and cruise phase duration but not completely accurate - if you're not going to do your own research then do that.

Don't take orals. Do take an aromatase inhibitor on your blast. Don't ask me any more fucking questions.

>>67847802
Why not just do dumbells for shoulders the fuck you trying to increase ohp and Bench at the same time gear or not over developing front delts and asking for injury

Your having issues cause it's an issue you have to pick 1 why don't you do PPLXPPLX with shoulders on leg day or just switch out bench for ohp and do fucking chest flys

>>67852820
Wouldnt say it is normal at all. Some reaction caused the substance or carrier oil. What carrier oil is it? Please do not respond that you don't know. Thank you.

>>67853096
>why don't you do PPLXPPLX with shoulders on leg day
That's what I was doing previously but I wanted to up the frequency to 3 times a week

>Your having issues cause it's an issue you have to pick 1
Yeah sadly it looks like this is the case. Rip my hopes and dreams I guess lol

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Alright guys, strange question. Back when I used to drink, my shit always smelled like blueberries the next day. I've since quit drinking, shit back to normal. Until this week, when I started taking oral primo. The blueberry shits are back. Something weird going on in my liver? Primo is supposed to be easy on the liver, that's why I chose it.

>>67846740
is that dread pirate roberts?

>>67852918
>Anyway 500mg/wk testosteorne enathanate injecting every 3.5 days
So just 2ml each time?

>>67853836
Get bent, Winona is a top tier fuck doll

>>67853983
Anyone take anything for prostate?
Feels like I have a softball behind my balls. Fucking uncomfortable, hurts to piss lol

>>67853959
Your retarded

I think finasteride might start to be giving me gyno I've been on it for around 5 months now what do I do bros? Is there anything else I can take? Would going back on testosterone counter it?

>>67851926
Will the gel suffice?

I see more UGL's offering MCT as a carrier oil and advantage over GSO other than allergic reactions?

>>67853586
MCT, or should be.
No injection site reaction or swelling, and no other reaction other than the hot face.

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>>67846740
Pls help friends
>L-carnitine homebrew
So I've got benzyl alcohol to make bacteriostatic water for the injection.
I'm having trouble knowing the right sterile water to buy though.
I asked a pharmacist and she said everything I need would have to have been made under a "sterile hood" and she doesn't even have one of those, so there's no way to do it safely.
She also said the solution has to be isotonic which means it needs a certain amount of salt to be balanced to my body's water salt content.
I'm just confused and don't want to inject some shit and get my leg amputated
Someone pls link me what to buy

>>67854997
I'm not linking you anything, fuck the pharmacist bitch, you'll fuck the solution adding salt. Don't do it

Been pinning tren ace subq to slow release (3x/wk), but it hardens into angry red lumps, is that temporary til I get used to it or do I need to increase frequency and do it IM?

>>67855599
Ok do I need sterile water vials or can I just get irrigation water or what kind of water do I need?

>>67847908
Immense moon face

>>67848386
Hahah. 1gram of test and being lean? I dont think so bub

>>67856328
Water is lean, technically

>>67856328
>Gram of test bro
>All ya need
>I'm totally lean
Lmao

>>67856982
being fat and looking fat from water retention are two different things

>>67856998
Correct, too bad to everyone else on the planet you still look fluffy my friend

Hi. I'm planning on doing steroids for the first time. Should I stick to the same program or change?
Doing Texas method at the moment and I like it

Alright goys, I am forgoing HCG my first cycle, I am going to do 250mg test E /wk for 8 weeks

then wait 2 weeks and take 5mg of nolvadex for 3 weeks. From what I've read this is a decent strategy. Not doing bloodwork since im canadian and it would cost me ~$1.5k CAD for everything

>>67854013
Sounds like high estrogen according to some infographic I have saved
>>67857248
That's a pretty low dose of test for a short period of time. Also that's a really low dose of nolva.

Thinking of throwing in 75mg deca with my 125mg test cruise.

I know the whole point of cruising is to give your body a break and recover your health markers. Would this small dose of deca be counterproductive?

>>67857248
>Not doing bloodwork since im canadian and it would cost me ~$1.5k CAD for everything
Just tell your doctor you want to hop on on finasteride but you want to do blood work first just in case. You'll get similar blood work done and for free

>>67857487
interesting.... ok ill try. maybe a walkin clinic too

>>67857477
Atleast it wouldnt be productive lmao

on week 4 of
250mg test e 400mg tren e
i've been on no ai for a week and a half after being a retard and crashing my estrogen
the horniness is hitting me like impending doom, like i desperately have to do something about it or i'll die. i searched through all my contacts trying to find a bitch who may fuck. sent her a current pic of my body and thank god she's just dumb enough. i go out with her in 3 hours. i'm so fuckin horny. feels like paranoia. it reminds me of my pentecostal childhood and being afraid jesus would return before i was saved and filled with the holy ghost. i gotta FUCK! why the hell does my slampig roommate have to be gone this weekend. i'm fuckin dyin
theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdnl0Tc-mEA

>>67858296
Make her anal gape wide open - make me proud anon

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First cycle & I started 400mg test cycle. Few weeks in and my feet swelled up like Edema and it was pitting. I thought I was going to heave a heart attack or some shit.

Popped an AI and 24 hours later the fluid retention in my feet has basically gone. I assume this was my Estrogen going way too high ? anyone else had this ?

This scared me.

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Anyone else here ever suffered from a mild case of Lennyism?
How did you reverse it?

I guess it's fluid inside the belly and/or visceral fat.
(Lots of alcohol + roids)

>>67858662
that's a symptom of autism, if you take test on autism your body reacts differently

>>67856982
are you saying 1gr of test makes you fat?

I ordered my test but it got delivered while I was out of town and it sat in 100 degree heat for 3 days. Is it fucked?

>>67859272
it's sealed so no

>>67859272

It's possible, that heat can cause the problems with the carrier oil.

>>67859385
youre supposed to heat it anyway to prevent crystals

>>67858867
Too much hgh over a long period of time dude. Makes your intestants grow man. Peace out, surfs up yo

>>67857435
>high estrogen
Thanks anon, I'll look into it but estrogen should be good
It's almost certainly the mast
I've taken saw palmetto in the past, starting it again, see if it helps
Any other suggestions for grapefruit size prostate?

>>67857435
I just want to minimize side effects, I'm not that big yet so ill still get a lot of gains

>>67847456
That's a man

>>67860002
it'd would be better to start at 500mg pw then reduce to 250mg if you were getting side effects.

one of the issues with super low doses (other than the shutdown during pct countering the gains) is the side effects might be too minimal to track properly but still an issue that accumulates over time.

for example
if i felt that 300mg tren per week was the sweet spot for m, it'd be worth trialling what 400mg feels like for 2 weeks just so I've got a better visibility of how it's effecting me

>>67855919
SubQ injections suck unless you’re doing GH or insulin. Always do IM

is there a way to prevent or deal with the ugly red skin you get from steroids?
I'm only planning on using 500 test, am I going to have to worry about it?

>>67860065
But i'm only doing a 8 week cycle probably 1 time ever. I was the guy who lost 30lbs from a stomach virus, this is just a boost. I'm cool with staying at my natty potential levels. I can try it and taper, I suppose

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>>67846740
I do it for her

>>67860665
>I’m only going to do 1 cycle
Kek there’s nothing more addictive than gear. You’re here forever

>>67854013
zinc and cialis

>>67854520
MCT flows through a slin pin so easily

>>67856022
>what kind of water do I need?
distilled water straight from the bottle, syringe filer into sterile vial or bottle top filer into a media bottle. Remember you don't need a pvdf or nylon filter because you are not putting in benzo benzoate.

>>67849980
Juuuust wait :^)

>>67860912
Might have to give it a go next order.

>>67860899
Checked and beautiful, thanks brother
See cialis is recommended so I took some, will add some zinc

>>67857477
My cruise is test c 200mg and deca 100mg per week and it's great. I don't lose muscle between blasts and my joints feel great, even when I'm cutting.

>>67858662
Yes, you let your e2 get too high. Now you know what it feels like. Take AI whenever you start to feel like your girl on her period: oily skin, pimples, bloating, itchy nips, overly emotional, etc.

>>67858352
She kept talking about my new muscles, "how'd you get those muscles," touching my muscles, etc...
So I was playing with her hair, running my fingers through, etc (we were waiting for a table for a while), and I said, "you know how I got these muscles? I played with a black girls hair how I'm playing with yours"
Best joke I've ever made in my life

>>67853787
Madone

>>67861997
I cant tell anymore if this pasta or you're literally retarded.
Could be both.

>>67857477
just bridge with cardarine and cut

>>67862156
She thought it was funny. What's wrong with you?

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Week 5 of MENT E. Still getting regular comments on how big I'm getting. Ment doesn't seem to make me any worse at cardio, but it doesn't seem to help either. Don't fall for the no cardio meme. Also starting to have a strange effect on attraction. I sometimes catch myself looking at young zoomer males a second too long. I'm still only sexually attracted to women, but maybe I just envy younger guys that are better looking than I am. Since similar situations are reported with tren I think 19nors just fuck with sex drive and desire in general. 4 months remain.

Also get chest pumps when I sleep on my side. You literally gain when sleeping on ment lol.

My gear guy lost a package and offered me tren instead of mast to make sure I at least got my money's worth. I typically just cruise on a tolerable dose of test and mast to build strength and size slowly for strongman. Is it worth trying the tren or should I just keep it to trade with someone and find a new source?

>>67860665
>>67860842
>1 cycle
yeah I was in the same boat champ

>>67862177
don't listen to that sperg, it was a decent one

>>67862192
Dont fuck with tren if you care about safety imo, not worth.

>>67862210
Im not so much concerned with my well being long term but I want to stay healthy enough to compete. I need another 10 years healthy at least to be a high level competitor.

>>67862228
Definitely look up the side effects yourself, there's cardiovascular and cholesterol concerns not sure how long term or short term it is to take effect.

The mental aspect may also affect you as well and prevent you from reaching your goals. High risk substance, but of course everyone is different.

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>>67846740
absolute scrub here, Im on 100mg test for TRT, but I have a surplus of test since its been getting shipped to me regularly. I am currently cutting,
>1. is it safe to up my weekly dose?
>2 How much is a reasonable increase?
>3. If so, should I use my extra test cutting or building myself up after?

>>67862312
holy fuck you trt boomers are cringe

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>>67862329
im 25. I work in the plastic industry.

>>67862341
just increase it to 200/w

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>>67862349
Ok im gonna send it momentarily. Ill take your word for it anon. It feels good being able to trust strangers on the internet.
>mfw hyped to finally be thin for first time in life
>mfw my soon to be ex chubby gf is getting more and more panicked as I get thinner, probably knowing the inevitable is coming

>>67862370
BBs take multiple grams of shit weekly for years on top of insulin and gh. You're 200mg/w isn't going to kill you.


>It feels good being able to trust strangers on the internet.
There's something deeply wrong with you.

>>67862381
Being ironic my brother in Christ, but ill be loading up 200mg tonight. Now that im losing weight finally i figure ill finally find out if I have actual gyno or if I just had bitch tits most of my life.

how do i convince my mom to let me do a cycle

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>>67860693

>>67862408
dont tell her. Assuming youre a minor here.
>convince gay teacher you are born a woman and just dress like a man (ftm trans)
>they will groom you, and help supply you with test
>just try not to get raped but that butthole is a small price to pay for results

>>67862381
>>It feels good being able to trust strangers on the internet.
>There's something deeply wrong with you.
>>67862402
>Being ironic my brother in Christ
I'll tell you this, I trust /fraud/ a fuck of lot more than I trust doctors
Also my question got legit answered above with verified working broscience. A doctor isn't giving you cialis and zinc to fix your masteron induced prostate problems

>>67862441
Unironically fuck doctors. The same fucking scumbags that advertised cigs, got paid to write unnecessary OPIOID PERSCRIPTIONS cant tell me shit. A lot of them should be hung for the shit they pull

>>67862508
dude heckin epic reddit updoot!

kys nigger ur post isn't related

>>67862508
I dont understand why you would lie on the internet. What sort of false reputation do you think you will gain, being completely anonymous?

>>67862508
no one here wants to associate with you, let alone be subjected to your dogshit world views and jokes.

>>67862467
Exactly! What I've learned, especially as a man, is that in the end you are responsible for yourself
Be careful who you trust

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>>67860842
Same here

>>67862559
seethe more you fucking redditor scum

Just deciding to take accutane. 18mg per day. Hopefully in six weeks I’ll be done and I’ll never have acne on my shoulders again when on cycle.

What can I expect?

>>67862838
>steals from neighbor
>commits identity theft
>destroys their heart medication
And being against this would make one a redditor? kindly kill yourself

>>67862984
Lol, not that faggot. Up the dose to at least 80mg a day.

>>67853959
Yes Jesus
If you’re this bad at math you don’t deserve test

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>>67862999
>dose
Checked, fucking boomer needs to blow his brains out already.

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>>67862441
It's fucking retarded, as much I hate the natties giving dosage advice or random other shit that happens in this thread. It's still better than
>Reddit
>BB forums
>Roid discords
>Talking to actual doctors lmao
I lurked for years in all of the above and /fraud/ and /fraud/ comes out on top. The fucking Mongolian basket weaving forum is better than everything else. Ridiculous if you think about it

>>67863067
A lot of advice on fraud is not bad at all. It’s 4chan so shitposting and some retards come with the territory

>>67863067
Why is this? Is it because in the reddit/forums/discords there's an extra factor of social dynamics and post history?

>>67862996
Holy fucking shit. You are literally a fucking brain dead nigger. You must be fucking underage or compeletly retarded. How in the fuck you didn't even think for a second before posting this shit that his post is just a shitpost for trolling dumb fucks like you? To top it off you're telling me to kill myself. Not to mention being actually offended by shitposts on 4chan. You don't even deserve the air you breathe in you fucking subhuman fuck, never post here again.

>>67863160
kek we got one boys, what a faggot

>>67863160
>>67863187
roid rage, this is why you shouldnt cycle boys

>>67863160
>>67863187
>>67863220
I’m actually confused at what’s going on here
>anon point retarded bait
>other anons call retarded bait retarded
>anon(?) seethes that people don’t like his bait post
Is this like double baiting?

>>67863276
you missed this one >>67862996

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Alright frens I have a post that's actually on topic
What's your personal experience with anadrol symptoms/efficacy? I plan on taking it toward the latter third of my cycle, and I'm only accustomed to the sides and effects of anavar and turinabol.
>just google it
Anecdotal evidence is unironically better in this field

>>67863441
On 100mg since 2.5 weeks.

Cons:
Titties are a bit puffy even though I take 120mg ralox with it.
My stomach doesn't really signal hunger anymore and I have to push myself just to barely eat enough.

Pros:
I break my last PRs with every single set every single training day. Just ridiculous strength I didn't even get with 700mg tren.

how do you guys even eat enough calories for steroids to be worth it?

>>67863740
By putting food in our mouths you deficient fucktard. Don't take them, you can't afford to lose any more cognitive ability

>>67863777
normal people dont eat 4k calories a day it would take forever

>>67863740
>>67863797
How is this even a question? Even on roids I eat too much without even trying and I’m only eating chicken and rice most of the time

How long can you run anavar for? Also is it true it kills appetite? Test has made mine go through the roof so will it balance out, or will I feel less hungry than I would have natty?

>>67853642
No no no bro from what it sounds like since you wanna put in the extra effort get a set of bands and really work them some bitchs

3-5 x12-15 all
dB ohp
Lateral raises
Facepulls
Band pull aparts

Very solid kind time consuming I just pyramid everything after ohp

>>67863883
I run liver support and it balances it out, if I don't my appetite gets slightly too poor to bulk.

>>67863865
I'm skinny what can i say, i'd prefer to not eat at all shit's annoying

>>67864168
GH secretagogues

>>67849426
Yes.
You are running DIY TRT. You will need PCT after your cycle.

5 mg dbol sublingually every day?
Would that affect my mood?

>>67864168
You don't need 4k calories if you're a twig you fucking retard. I can bet that you are eating like a bird.

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Are PEDs actually addictive?

>>67864587
They are not addictive but after you try them you will realize that lifting natty is absolutely pointless.

>>67864587
of course

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32_wVUEiHQc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncd9mxXViBk

It's not too late bros, you can still save yourselves.

>>67864604
>Hormone bad, stronk men bad, m
Btfo you gatekeeping kike. I will keep injecting hormones, blasting Black Magick SS and living without social media, TV and all your other filth. I will keep enjoying the sun, our sole provider of energy, without your hazardous sunscreen. I will keep growing my own vegetables, potatoes, peppers and spices without your chemicals. I will keep breeding my wife with white children despite your ongoing psy-ops.

So forget your wet dreams about decieving me into anything else.
Soon to be back in the summer of '39, uh-huh

>>67864604
>check chapters of long ass video
>"This isn't a lecture on morals, this is logic"

That faggot doesn't know what these two concepts actually mean.
All-of-his-opinions-status: DISREGARDED

I hate unprecise midwit fuckheads so much, it's unreal

has anyone experience with sesame oil through slin pins?

>>67864587
It's the gains that are addictive

>>67864744
he's just a clout chaser that doesnt want to roid, which is fine, but he's just as disingenuous as the PED users that claim to be natty when he claims that anyone who doses T are a "deathcult". Arnold is still alive and he took deca, it's just fear mongering and sensationalism like faux news... baka

>>67864687
Bada Bing Bada Based

>>67865190
You take your gear and throw it into the garbage because you're a fucking retard who should stay away from steroids.

>>67865190
If you can't learn it from the Bible, you probably don't need it.

>>67865190
you don't take any unless the estrogen symptoms seem to be an issue. then you fine tune the dose until you've got the lowest aromasin intake possible that blocks the estrogen symptoms

>>67861462
two more weeks?

how do I get Woody Harrelson face gains like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uTTU3LnzsA

HGH?

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>>67862997
yeah ok i did some research, sorry for me earlier retard post (pic related as apology)

here's what i know:
a dose of around 1mg/kg of body weight for around 6 months would permanently kill off some sebaceous glands, which is fine on cycle, but then when you come off you may permanently have dry skin

a dose of around .1-.2mg/kg of body weight (so around 10mg per day) would be enough to offset the effects of steroids. it's also sufficiently low that it should have minimal psychological side effects, and minimal effects on the liver. all the same, not a bad idea to get liver check ups while you're running it. be careful to use sunscreen and not drink too much alcohol.

some people get great results with even just 10mg per week of accutane

accutane purges the oil and bacteria in these glands, so it will make acne worse before it gets better, so probably a good idea to start accutane before you start your cycle


here's what i don't know yet:
how long does it get worse for?
how soon after i start taking accutane will my skin become worse, and how long until it starts to get better?
will a small dose of .2mg/kg body weight for 3 months lead to long term skin gains if i have moderate shoulder acne when i'm not on cycle?

is it that bad to combine tren and winstrol? Like do they interact with each other in some specific deleterious way? Not sure where I heard it from but idk if its true or not. I'm only on 200 tren, just wanted to add 50-100mg of winstrol to peak for a photoshoot

>>67863121
reddit attracts leftists who are by nature midwits and pussies and do what they are told
if there isn't a verified signed and sealed by a doctor academic PEER REVIEWED journal article telling them it's safe to take zinc and cialis for prostate issues while taking niche steroid compounds, they won't do it

>>67863777
do aas decrease cognitive ability? oh fuck..

>>67858867
Fixing diet biggest one. Keep binges/huge meals to an absolute minimum
Daily cardio (45 mins) wearing waist trainer
Takes time

>>67863441
Bumping your question, a lot of anons here love Adrol. We'll see what they say
I tried Adrol once a few years ago and felt very little/nothing. I think the timing of when I used it wasn't great. Haven't tried it since

>>67866115
thanks, anon
I'm also considering fasting for a week to shed a bit of ascites (and hopefully fat around the organs) first.

>>67866829
I've never fasted (done IF a lot though). Yes, definitely need to get rid of that shit, any constant/chronic bloat. Fuck I hate that feeling

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I created a program for myself. I'm starting my first experiment with oxandrolone. distributes usage over weekly periods, with a drop in concentration on weekends. At the beginning and end there is an adaptation gradient. The peaks go up to 50mg/day and the administration is correlated with the time of my workouts. Oxandrolone is soluble in saline, it is easy to dose. I used official calculation factors and for personal parameters I used anecdotal experiences. Workout 2x a day, full body. I was natural for 17 months, I want to polish it now.

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>>67867359
well, despite what the masses say you can actually do orals only just fine, this autism chart made me lul tho like seriously, especially the top one is pure autism

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>>67860009

>>67867692
Kek, I know

I am retarded, otherwise why the fuck I am here? Thing about it and search the answer on your own hearth

God bless you

Fuck, at my sister's house enjoying a massive amount of food. I wanna pin a bit of extra tren but I only brought 1 slin pin Reusing okay if washed in 90% alcohol?

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>>67867934
Yes yes har har you have two charts of autism. Pin test along with it pussy if you want to keep your gains.

>>67867359
What a fucking spazz. Just take it an hour before you lift and be done with it.
None of that other bullshit matters.
And its fucking Anavar. Its like the weakest steroid there is so who even cares.

>>67868018
>>67867964
I am 34. I am very aware of the human mortality, I can feel it at this point in life. Death come slowly and with lots pain and I dont want to blast and fuck me up for decades for a summer of glory

I am retarded but not that much

>>67863121
The reddit threads are just full of faggots.
They say tren is the worst compound to bulk with because it "ruins your appetite".
They are adamant that any gains from orals disappear the moment you stop taking them.
Anyone who disagrees with the above gets shouted down.

>>67847908
Fuck off

>>67850059
Fuck me look at that

>>67868056
300mg Test, 600mg Tren
You're mindframe/worldview is fucked
Thank me later

>>67868056
So you're intelligent enough to plot vars concentration but stupid enough to make the statement that a blast will "fuck you up for decades". Even as hyperbole that's just plain silly. When you have a stroke in your 60s are you going to be thinking "omg I shouldn't have done those 2 lines of coke when I was 19, I knew this was going to happen".

Maybe take some more time to learn about manipulating your hormones as a whole because it sounds like you honed in on var and are clueless about everything else. Put that autism to work. It's genuinely interesting stuff too which helps, at least in my opinion.

>>67868343
You make sense, thanks

>>67867807
God I’m in love with her
Do you think she’ll be my mistress for $2k per month?

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Anyone Have Experience With Picrel?

I've Already Done a Test And Anvarol Cycle. It Went Pretty Well And I Even Kept Most Of My Gains After PCT. I Think I'm Ready To Hop On Tren For My Next Cycle.

I Read On The Reddit Wiki That You Can't PCT off Tren. Is This True?

Also, Are The Tren Side Affects Really As Bad As People Say?

>>67861462
mate your full of shit

>>67868702
yes yes yes

>>67868702
just pin synthol into your nuts

>>67868802
I Don't Think They Have That On The Website. I Also Prefer To Avoid Needles If Possible.

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>>67868702
this company LOOOOOOOOOOOL
I was wondering how they were still in business, I can see they're still at it farming retards

>>67868899
you rub the gel onto your balls, it's like icyhot which you should try as a warmup

>>67868984
Nice Try. I Wouldn't Put Icyhot On My Balls Like Some Retard.

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>>67869029
>Like some retard
You buy crazybulk supplements and don't pin test.
What the fuck are you even doing here?

>>67869193
I Do Take Test And I Use Crazybulk Because It's Legal And Trustworthy, Unlike Your Bathtub Steroids. And I'm The Retard.
LOL
Sad

>>67869268
You're taking multivitamins and talking about it in a steroids thread. Stop posting here

>>67869268
I Agree. Crazybulk Is A Safer Option IMO.

Just Ignore Retards Like >>67869193

>>67869350
obvious samefag bait, capitalizing every word LMAOOOO

You got me earlier though. You play a very convincing retard

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back from vacation
off all orals
took molly for 3 days straight my brain is mush bros

>>67869511
yeah that's not good mdma is extremely neurotoxic after the first dose

>>67869511
Enjoy serotonin syndrome

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>>67869268
>crazybulk is trustworthy
They're modern day snake-oil salesmen, who try to trick people that don't know any better into thinking taking a multivitamin + 3 random herbs not even supported by clinical OR anecdotal evidence will get you jacked, just like the models they use (who are actually on roids)
If you buy from them, I feel sorry for you. Not because you got scammed, but because you're absolutely retarded.

>>67869526
it was pure crystal. i don't even drink, just adderal and xanax.
took 5hpt throughout the trip and some yesterday and today. adderal today is helping my brain repair. feel fucking retarded and just kinda different thinking nothing DRASTIC but like a hangover .
but had amazing fugs

>>67869511
did u cum in her pussy or butthole at least?

>>67848386
People who fear 1600mg eq will say this causes bloat

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>>67869562
>adderal today is helping my brain repair

>>67869567
been on trt for like a decade but still nervous to do that. i will every now and then but it's hard as FUCK to cum on that shit. wont go into detail but I did not lmao
>>67869592
adderal is brain sterons

>>67869623
How do I grab some TC, you have an email where I can ask you?

>>67869675
tomcruiz at safe-mail dot net

>>67869705
sent. ty bud

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>>67869511
>>67869562
>>67869623
Was meaning to email ya, hope you're having a good vacation T.

I was smashing triple burgers and superdrol and was thinking about ya lol

I FUCKING LOVE EQ

>>67869824
dude i went into vacation pumped as fuck on sdrol now I'm deflated as hell lol it goes so fast I feel I also didn't train or eat right for a week but still. how long you run sdrol? I've never gone or heard of going over 4 weeks

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Did you know that Oral Turinabol is UFC approved?

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>>67869982
It's pretty great, I'm veiny asf, even tho I'm bulking.
>>67870033
Longest I ever ran it was 2 months, but yea dude I told ya to bring some orals with ya lol. Gotta keep the look going

>>67870224
>scene chicks
man i'm engaged to a former scene girl, some tats n smol. love it
for now I'm going to 400mg test, get blood work in sep and try and just cut bf, up my cardio feel healthy, focus on mental health and lower stress.
want to feel athletic again

>>67870456
roiding and still have to settle for a tatted girl , sad

>>67869623
>adderal is brain sterons
Yes

>>67869982
Nice. What's it doing for you

>>67870162
Yes, been a few fighters popped for tbol

>>67870636
chicks w cute tats are hot as fuck. not degenerate doodles all over - that's v different.
>>67870721
yes.

>>67870721
>>67870800
what do you guys think about Leo longevity's take on adderall? Never XR, always limited to 10mg, only 4 out of 7 days a week max.

>>67870976
leo is pretty spot on with stuff, trusted.
I've been on various adderal since I was 15 so I do what works for me.
right now I use about 15mg split throughout the day (ir) when I work, sometimes I need more. then I weekends I shitpost here and play cod and take about 50mg. sunday none, rinse repeat.
i took none while on vacation, but the mdma had my heart racing like actual meth, even tho never done it.
mdma felt like meth and lsd, even though i've done neither

anyone got bloodwork from their dr and not told them you're on sterons?
my primary is legit obese and sometimes she's all about putting me on anything and other times she's suggested taking me off meds I want to keep an rx for
afraid she'll pull me off. what's the worst she will see? high lipids? or LDL (I honestly know nothing about either just know that comes with sterons)

>>67871660
They can report you to your insurance unironically even though cigs are infinitely worse for your health

I really cba to pin rn I'm sick, inspire me bros I don't want to sneeze with a needle in my ass

>>67870976
Interesting, haven't heard of Leo. Will look into it
>Never XR
Completely agree. Garbage. With instant release can control/know how long the energy will last
>always limited to 10mg
I take dexedrine (had adderall in the past), so the dosing might be a bit different. Like everything you have to find what works for you
10mg a day would do very little. 5mg I won't feel anything. I take a lot more total per day
>>67871660
>anyone got bloodwork from their dr and not told them you're on sterons?
No. Like you I don't want my prescription pulled. Doctor already asks every visit if I want to reduce dosage. I don't talk to doctor about anything except refills and very general crap. No blood tests of anything for years

>>67871833
Checked and lol it will be fine. That shit will heal you quicker

>>67871860
i'm in the same boat.
i need my adrl and can. i only use xan to sleep - which she prescribed very quickly then a year later asked if id switch to ambien. tried ambien once it was god awful, so declined.
then she offered muscle relaxers for my bad back - which I even declined. so she's open to tossing out whatever but then at times asks about going off meds or different. I've dodged blood tests for years too even tho each annual she says to send them to her
>Completely agree. Garbage. With instant release can control/know how long the energy will last
yes

>>67871972
Yeah, finally find something that works, it gets me through, leave it the fuck alone
Good on you for declining muscle relaxers, no need for things if they aren't truly needed, but great as a last resort

>>67871972
Also wanted to say back injuries are the one I want no part of. That shit ruins lives
Chronic pain is no joke

>>67872093
i have arthtitis and stenosis in my back, broke my hip, vertibre and tailbone all at once. the pain gets really bad. but I've realized over time it's like 75% stress when it hurts and swells up. so I try and manage that way.
i don't wanna be hooked on relaxers in my 30s

>>67872165
>it's like 75% stress when it hurts and swells up
It really is amazing how much stress fucks everything up/makes things worse
I've mentioned in the past how you've posted all the stressful shit you've been doing over the last year. Trust me, that shit will drag anyone through the wringer, you've done damn good getting through it. Guarantee that vacation helped release a lot of bullshit

>>67872288
>double checked
and i agree. getting back from vacation my back is not in pain. but when it's hectic at work I'm icing it while at work. i come home at 6 and just sleep, stress is a motherfucker

>>67859272
No it ain't a peptide, being in a mailbox all day is the same as making it bruh. You are fine.

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>>67871972
wtf, do you they literally just throw drugs at the problem until it's somewhat better lmao

What's a good ratio for Test:Deca:Eq?

I keep seeing 1:1:1, 1:1:1.5, 1:1:2, and 1:2:1 across different message boards.

>>67847908
>What am I in for boyoos
Disappointment, faggot. You’re probably a skinnyfat nigger with zero willpower to actually try to improve yourself by your own abilities. You should’ve had at least 5 years of natural training to not make yourself look like a complete retard in the gym, imagine how much more retarded you’ll look when you’ll have to admit that you’re not natty along with that.

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>>67872165
I was reading everything and then... This

Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeek whaaat???

bros why didn't anybody tell me how fucking B R U T A L the pump is when you're takin cialis daily?

>>67873274
>admit that you’re not natty
I trained for 5 months naturally before hopping on. My only regret is not hopping on a month sooner. I will always claim natty.

>>67873911
I can't really bring you down honestly, spending 4 years training natty was retarded

>>67873956
Sometimes I get form checked by guys smaller than me. Moments like those really make me happy. I just smile and take the advice.

cosindering dnp because im a fat fuck

talk me out of it

Lost weight so might have loose skin, want some test

I'm also bipolar and already fucking insane. I have pretty high test already and off the charts free test. Is this shit finna be worth it

>>67874203
>shit finna be worth it
>finna be
no, just die actually

>>67874184
Just use one of the caffeine based fat burners like hydroxycut and use a cardio machine for an hour a day. Also eat less.

>noo but I literally can't eat less and exercise more
then you'll just gain the fat back dumbass

>>67874254
how could you possibly be bothered by that word considering you use nigga ironically

>>67874268
Read my post again and tell me where I used that word. Talk like a human please before responding to me. Thank you.

>>67874280
Youre upset about a cultural decline but tell people to kill themselves

>>67874286
If all the people I don't like kill themselves we wouldn't be in a cultural decline.

>>67874298
you dont understand linguistics or culture

you have a stem brain and live in constant cognitive dissonance LOL

>>67874316
reddit spacing

>>67874298
Lol based

>>67874325
does roiding automatically make you seem like a bronze age mindset twitter worshiper

how are those andrew tates video on your feed doing king

>>67874347
You say you have high test, but here you are crying that someone has a different perspective than you. Also that dig is so fucking pathetic. Crazy how I only see natties trying to undermine other men with these 'gotchas'. You come in here talking like a nigger, you get told to talk like a human, than instead of adjusting you cry for multiple posts straight instead of just asking the question again.

Get a fucking grip.

>>67874413
>tells me to kill myself for saying finna
>hey man cmon that dig is so pathetic

Cognitive dissonance.

Undermine other men? You told me to kill myself faggot, quit pretending you're holier than though. You also have a lukewarm iq take if you think the word finna is causing cultural decline just because black people use it LOL.

Also you seem like you aren't even fully white if I had to guess LOL

>>67874444
Holy mother of reddit spacing.

>Also you seem like you aren't even fully white
Straight to the race baiting when called out? Low effort

>LOL
Insecure and mad, yep. You don't have to attach "lol" or "lmao" to an insult, you're allowed to be a man here.

>>67874481
>straight to the race baiting
You called me a nigger and got mad at finna and I knew you weren't even fully white lmfaoooooooooooo holy FUCK

Also considering you're probably part South American or hispanic I thought you'd fine it interesting that the etymology of fixing to came from there.

Anyways quit telling me about being a man, get out of your redpill stage and quit being a rude faggot and maybe people will be nicer to you.

one of you is a legit nigger or both. I can't tell yet

>>67874498
>lmfaoooooooooooo holy FUCK
I am white though. Which is why I have a problem with animals like you coming into this general. Even if I wasn't white that wouldn't discredit anything I've said.

>Also considering you're probably part South American or hispanic
Where are you getting this from? You were right about being mentally ill. I didn't even call you a nigger, just told you to stop typing like one and you're having a full on mental breakdown. Where is that high test you were talking about? It's only natties that go into mental hysterics when called out.

>quit being a rude faggot
Nah, don't want more freaks like you shitting up one of the last good generals on this board. You're still reddit spacing btw.

>>67874552
Thank God you're working hard to preserve the steroid general on 4chan from degeneracy anon. The white man truly marches on today because of this.

>Where is that high test you were talking about?
High natural test makes you calm.

>nooooooo reddit spacing
You're terminally online, racist and the worst part, not funny. I've never seen a terminally online racist who isn't funny until you.

>>67874528
its him, I wouldnt lie

>>67874595
>High natural test makes you calm.
Which is why you still haven't been able to ask the original question like a normal functioning human being, makes sense. I don't care if you don't find me funny. I want you to talk like a human being or fuck off. Why would I ever care if some faceless random finds me funny as if I need validation from you? That concept is mind blowing to me.

>>67874640
Look king, we're both running out of steam and I have to work.
You seem nice, I'm not trying to high road reddit fag you right now. Try therapy someday. I think if you had some more perspective you wouldn't tell others to kill themselves. I think I've decided against steroids because the affective empathy already drops with mania and it's not good. I'd lean over my computer rn and kiss you on your cheek rn if I could

>>67874650
I would happily kill you in front of your loved ones and feel no remorse. Fuck off.

>>67874660
Probably a bit of an extreme reaction on your end but I feel the same way often, hence the avoiding steroids.
You're gonna lose your mind when you start therapy.

>>67874670
>start therapy
Wasted money that could be spent on more gear. If you're not here to talk about PEDs fuck off. Fucking cringe nattycucks always having mental breakdowns where they have to play the nice guy at the end so the faceless random doesn't hate them. It makes me want to gouge my eyes out. Not replying to nattycucks anymore, you aren't worth it.

>>67874691
*slides my paw on your thigh*

>>67874708
*you moan*

You two will end up having anal sex

ran out of needles and missed a pin.

currently pinning e3d. should i shorten the interval to e2d until i "catch up" or just carry on without compensating for the missed pin? standard practice with most medicines is to ignore a skipped dose so that's my inclination but on the other hand any excuse to pin moar makes my monke brain go beep

>>67848386
i did a gram of test for my first cycle. i will never do less. it's incredible. people who think it's a "high dose" are crazy lol.

that said there are better compounds to run rather than just straight up blasting 2 or 3 grams.

>>67857193
if your goal is size do a hypertrophy program and start a few weeks before the gear so you can settle into it.

otherwise keep the same program, but you will probably find you can adjust it for more frequency a few weeks into your cycle because the gear helps with recovery.

>>67857573
bro just fucking say you are taking anabolic steroids and need a blood test.

i do that in australia (i assume the systems are essentially the same) and i get free bloods, whatever i want whenever i want, plus EKG, echocardiogram, whatever.

you might have to doctor shop a bit but the appointments are free so just keep trying different clinics until you find some overworked pajeet who doesn't give a shit.

it's not illegal to use roids, only to possess them.

>>67866115
>waist trainer
IT'S A CORSET JUST CALL IT A FUCKING CORSET THAT'S WHAT IT IS I FUCKING HATE THIS NEWSPEAK BULLSHIT

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>>67862187
>Don't fall for the no cardio meme
Pray *pant* for me *pant*

>>67864587
They cause conditioned place preference behaviour, which suggests that they at least have the potential to be psychologically addictive.

They do not create physiological dependence though and there is no "withdrawal" associated with them.

I take dexamphetamine on prescription and it's way more addictive than roids are.

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>>67874347
I have no idea who the fuck that is.

I popped my fucking prami, nutted and came back this hit show of a thread. Wtf

>>67858867
If it's visceral fat, fasting.

>>67874803
I'm on adderall I'm not sure if they'd flag me as a drug user if I said that. They're really getting heat for prescribing scheduled substances so they prefer not to prescribe them at all if possible

>>67875993
>I'm not sure if they'd flag me as a drug user if I said that
what kind of system "flags" people as drug users? healthcare is for health care, not executing the government's moralfaggot agenda.

even if they do have it in your records it's sealed anyway isn't it? i don't know how canuck laws work but over here it's top secret.

if you've got a script for adderall then you should be fine; if you don't then just go get one, if you've actually got ADHD it should be piss easy. doctors generally prefer to prescribe dex these days though, at least for adults, as far as i'm aware.

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Brehs, what's the Finasteride-rule again?
Useless when on DHT-derivatives?

(e.g. it won't help me as long as I'm on Adrol?)

>>67876149
The Swedish system flags people for use of AAS/narcotics. Doesnt give any info to the Gestapo, but good luck getting any pain, anxiety and/or sleeping meds om prescription except paracetamol and antihistamines for the remaining time of your life lmao

>>67877324
Bad even on DHT derivates, yes, however; jeez she sure helped me get long right now

Is blasting tren enough on a cut or do i have to actually lift weights? I am so fucking tired i simply cannot lift shit.

>>67878049
Tren will make the tired go away, trust me

>>67877339
Same in Germany once you're flagged as abuser, though I don't know how they react to AAS. Always paying for bloodwork at private labs to be sure.

>>67878276
I've been on 500mg of ace for past two weeks and i went from feeling like shit to feeling totally dead.

>>67878276
not at all lol
>>67878389
500mg of tren ace is quite a lot.
lower the dose. I'm sure your test is on the lower end than the tren.
usually higher test/tren ratio makes you feel better.
but the opposite nets better physical results.
also- in my 20's nothing made me lethargic besides stacking like dnp, sdrol. low test/high as fuck tren.
now in 30's just 20mg of sdrol or eq wipes me the fuck out.

>>67879043
>I'm sure your test is on the lower end than the tren.
200/500 right now

>>67879157
>>67879106
200/500 is a great recomp.
you do not need that much tren though. for real. you will get the same results ar 400mg. i'd say start with 200/400 and run that until if you get real lethargic then like 400/400.
the only issue with raising the test cosmetically is that you hold water, carry that blood. nothing major, but you'll notice.
now I'm in my 30s I just do tren/test 5 at 400 each. it does the job, but did not look freaky like other ratios.
adding mast never did much for me one way or the other - wini was what did it for me.
I'm going to do cardio and will be back in 90 and shitpost the rest of the afternoon

I'll try again, last time the 2 morons started fighting and ruined everything for hours:

Has anyone pinned something with sesame oil as carrier with slin pins (29G) and how did it go? I heard it's thicker than GSO or MCT, but usually holding the pin for a minute under running hot tap water solves problems with thickness for me. I'm not drawing with the slins, just backloading.

>>67874444
Black "people" huh? Shut the fuck up you worthless fucking shitskin.

>>67879207
>200/500 is a great recomp
What do you mean exactly by recomp? Eating in a
deficit and getting temporary tren fullness or eating around maintenence and praying for magic fat loss?

>>67869511
based typhoon lagoon enjoyer

>>67879473
>praying for magic fat loss
People here gonna hate on me, but that's actually a thing. My body gets so hot, the fat just melts away over night while the numbers in the gym go steadily up (leading to not just glycogen fullness, but actual tissue that stays even after dropping the tren).

>>67879577
dubs of truth. People have been lied to think "you can't build muscle and lose fat at the same time" for so long. it's simply not true.

>>67866006
Post acne

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>>67846740
how is it, bros? Im natty and dont want to pin yet but what is it like to roid? how crazy are the gains?

>>67879577
>>67879682
i did 300/300, ate at mainenance and got zero results in 10 weeks besides some strength boost

>>67879415
i was fucked up on xan and just saw everyone calling everyone nigger and reddit spacing had no idea what was going on.
i wouldn't pin with small as 29 for various reasons (I'll be back in an hr I swear)
I draw and pin with (the same) 23g.
when I first started, I would use a wider needle, then switch it, clean it yada yada.
after a while you just get it all over with in 30 seconds.
bigger - quicker. less time to squirm around while you keep pushing and pushing leading to other problems. wider is just smoother.
heating def does help
>>67879473
it's about what your body LOOKS like. not a layne norton well (adjusts glasses) it's simple calls in calls out.
not when you are fucking with powerful hormones that control water and estrogen, and vascularity. look up PAUL BARNETT. "lower dose tren" is a good one.
he's basically like a tldr coach steve.
>>67879540
I love you.
i was fucked off my ass floating around that place. i spent 4 days of hopper passes, only to visit HS and MK once, then just typhoon everyday bitch. those waves pwnd me. i grew up going a lot. very nostalgic to be back. they've been closed for so long too, it was so good to be there. many feels.
>>67879773
no hate at all but 300mg of tren and not having results is a def problem. like that's not ok at all lol
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OK IM LEAVING FOR CARDIO BRB GOD DAMNIT

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>>67879820
>it's about what your body LOOKS like. not a layne norton well (adjusts glasses) it's simple calls in calls out.
>not when you are fucking with powerful hormones that control water and estrogen, and vascularity. look up PAUL BARNETT. "lower dose tren" is a good one.
>he's basically like a tldr coach steve.
I have no clue what you are trying to say here.

>>67873305
How much Cialis are you taking daily? I do 3-4mg a day, the pumps are alright but I do it mainly to keep my blood pressure where I like it.

>>67879762
Depends on what and how much you're taking. It ranges from disappointing to gaining fractions of inches on your arms every week.

>>67872156
Yeah I hurt my back. I want to say it was 3 years ago but it still bothers me from time to time. I just try to pretend it doesn't hurt.

>>67879889
Shit this reaction made me laugh lmao

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>>67879963
Not him, but I pop like 10-20mg Cialis everyday, because I'm afraid of getting my dick randomly sucked and not getting hard because of stress due to the unforeseen surprise

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>>67876149
Well my point is that I'm rolling the dice if my doctor is willing to continue prescribing me a high risk abuse drug after saying I'm doing other illicit drugs. The college of physicians is pressuring people to reduce prescriptions of scheduled substances in general. I didn't mean flag as in systemic just a red flag in their mind