Anyone else take this, it’s the only drug I take, no weed or alcohol just phenibut twice a week, anyone else like this?
>>66766542Never tried it. Considering it tho. Any one tried kratom? I heard its basically coffee that increases confidence (if you don't take a really big dose)
>>66766542Yes. It's a lifesaver. Kills anxiety. It's a useful tool. Reminds me of limitless. No super thinking speed, but social ability suddenly gets unlocked.
>>66766559I didn't like Kratom. Felt nothing with low doses, and with high doses just felt sedated. Moving took effort.
>>66766561Is this picture supposed to be pro xanny or phenibut
>>66766588>he wants to spend $4,000 on a drug that will probably kill him or fuck him up for life
>>66766582different strains of it have different effects, some are really sedative but some give you a pretty strong energy boost. Recently quit though, it's a bad habit
>>66766605>still can't tell if you're recommending phenibut
>>66766559Nah it tastes like shit, gives me nausea and if anything just makes u tired, phenibut is much better imo
>>66766561Yep, FAA is the superior version tho
>>66766626Phenibut is like 30 bucks for 40g, so not bad, lasts me around 4 months
>>66766650I don't like things under my tongue.
>>66766650What's the difference between them?
>>66766625What's the best strain you found for confidence and energy?
>>66766663Well you could mix it with water if u wanted to but I find it’s much to let it dissolve under the tongue, you’ll also feel it faster and stronger since FAA is more pure.
>>66766626He's recommending it dumbass
>>66766678The FAA version comes in powder form and is much more pure, than the HCL version, which you can only take in capsules or dissolved in water since it’s very acidic it can’t be taken sublingually like the FAA version can. The FAA version, since it isn’t acidic, is better for the stomach and you’ll feel it faster and stronger then the HCL version since it’s more pure and can be taken under the tongue so it absorbs straight into the bloodstream instead of having to be digested by the stomach
>>66766716Are there any downsides besides price?
>>66766692I took indo white, but remember it's a drug anon. Shouldn't take longterm without breaks. Gotta be careful because some people get withdrawals when they stop after prolonged use.
>>66766542Since it's a depressant, would it ruin my metabolism?
>>66766734There's withdrawals if you take too much. In East Europe the prescription is between 250mg-2g per day for up to 4 weeks. People who use it regularly swear by limiting use to 2x per week or approx once every 3 days
>>66766734If you take it everyday and become addicted to it you’ll suffer serious withdrawals which will suck, which is why I never do it more than twice a week but if I was just starting out I would stick to once a week, probably on the weekend or sumt. Really helps to be social too although I’ve never used it for that since I have no friends
>>66766777checked. I took about 2g per day for that amount of time and I had terrible terrible withdrawals. Any anon considering using phenibut needs to be advised that you should not take it daily no matter what. It will fuck up your brain chemistry in a hurry.
>>66766813i will always post in these threads when I see them to warn people because of what happened to me. It was seriously a nightmare coming off of it, common advise is to taper dose when quitting but I just tried to cold turkey it and it was a big mistake.
>>66766829How high and frequent were your doses?
>>66766559Kratom is real but get it from a reliable source.
>>66766833I'm the poster I linked, I think it was 2g per day for a month, but this was a long time ago so I can't remember much. Numbers might be off, could have been higher dose and slightly longer. Point is, it happened extremely fast and I didn't even realize how much my body was dependent on it when I stopped.
>>66766846Any recommendations for strains/vendors?
>>66766542just took 500mg pill. Use 1-3 times per week. sometimes a skip a week or two. Some bad sideffect if used too much. Lke everything. Also very good to do cardio on.
>>66766559I found kratom pretty addictive. Its also purely recreational
>>66766883>also very good to do cardio onThis. I wake up, take phenibut on a fasted stomach, then do go on an hour long bike ride, I notice that it helps the phenibut kick in faster and stronger. Best to eat like 2-3 hours after taking it
>>66766542Where can I buy phenibut faa? I'm American, so it's not something I'd have to get of Whitehouse market right?
>>66766542Will this cause me to piss hot for piss test in the army?
>>66766997The best site is liftmode, but they’re all out of stock. You can also buy some from science.bio, they’re pretty good toohttps://restricted.science.bio/product/phenibut-faa-powder/
>>66766942never got this meme. i get the effects just fine even if i take it after eating
>>66766559Tried Kratom three times, the first two times it just gave me that slightly drunken feel. The third time (4gr) was horrible. It made me sleepy but at the same time awake, so you just lie in bed trying to sleep but you can't while having nausea and when you finaly threw up and slept you wake up with a fucking hangover that last the entire day. It also taste absolutey disgusting. It also makes you addicted and the withdrawal is the same or even worse than as a heroin withdrawal. Listen to your body and don't even start with that shit, just drink a beer and you will have the same effect.
>>66766542its alright i just use it as a crutch but at least im no longer drinkng alcohol because of it, i average like 7-8g per month. id like to cut down a bit, now i take like 500mg every 3 days sometimes more when theres an occasion. makes me horny af too been on some crazy edging sessions on this shit
>>66767076I heard it kills sex drive
>>66767127>Reduces anxiety>Increases dopamine (attention hormone)>______ sex driveYou decide what makes more sense.
>>66767127nah lol where the fuck did u hear that? It make u horny as hell, increases sex drive
>>66767004It's banned by the DOD, but it's not on regular drug panels. They have to specifically test for it and those aren't cheap. It's not a common drug so just keep your mouth shut.
>>66766542This stuff is worse for you than heroin
>>66767387Why do you say that?
Is the effect really only 3 hours long? Or is the afterglow really long?
>>66767410the withdrawal is apparently really horrible, especially considering that it only has a mild sedative effect and not much of a highI never took it often enough to see, having this information in mind, but it's allegedly really bad
this stuff's weird. I don't really notice it while im on it no matter how much I take (most I've taken was 3.5g). But fast forward to the end of the day, I'll notice my general mood throughout the day was more relaxed and I got more of my work done. I still don't know how to feel about it
This stuff doesn’t do much for me, have plenty left, should I just up the dose?
>>66767524It's not euphoric and it doesn't have a high in a conventional sense. It just lowers your inhibitions.It's piss easy to not get withdrawals, just don't take it more than twice a week.
>>66767618What's your dose and have you actual taken it in social settings?
i used to be able to get this stuff easy in australia even though it was banned but i guess theyre cracking down harder because its impossible now
>>66767524>calls it worse than heroin>i took it but not often enough to get addicted/withdrawalsbased retard
>>66766542How does this stuff compare to GABA?
>>66766559I personally love kratom, relaxes me and gives me a lovely cozy feeling. Also gives me a fair bit of euphoria. I personally like it more than alcohol.Also makes your orgasm way stronger and makes you last longer
>>66768097What strain do you use and how does it affect your anxiety (if you have any)
>>66768105I used mostly green and some yellow bali. Green was ussually more euphoric and energic, also made me way more social. Yellow and red made me sleepy and lazy, I would just lie in my bed and listen to the mincraft soundtrack lmao, gave me also more of the relaxed and really cozy feeling. White was imo the closest to coffe, made me feel more wired and didn't have much of a high, I just felt different but it was pretty meh. It generally really reduced anxiety for me. But the effects of kratom vary from person to person and my friend doesn't like it because it just makes him feel sleepy, tired and heavy.I also suggest taking it max 2-3 times a week as it's addictive and tolerance increases pretty fast
>>66768210Thanks I ordered some green maeng da caps from superspeciosa.
>>66767127absolutely not, in fact phenibut is the only reason why I'm not a virgin
don't do kratom brosyou'll start out taking it once every few days and inevitably end up taking it multiple times a day and then having shit withdrawal symptoms when you stopit's just a shitty opiate, it'll help with anxiety at the very start but it becomes a major crutch and will fuck with your hormones>t. bought kratom for the first time in over a year a few days ago and am about to have a teaspoon of itnot worth it brosphenibut fucking rules though and I've never had a problem sticking to a 2x week rule with it, often go weeks without taking it with no problems
I'll just ask because i'm retardedHow would you measure this out : https://restricted.science.bio/product/phenibut-faa-powder/Would you get capsules? Or does it come with a measuring/dosing tool?
>>66767037in countries where it’s a prescription they say to take it with food lol
>>66768231Caps take longer to kick inAlso take them on an empty stomach and eat a fatty snack like 40mins after taking them for maximum potency. Some people don't feel anything if thes take kratom on a full stomach and it generally reduces the effects. Green kratom is great with caffeine so I suggest drinking a coffe with it. And start around 2-3 grams to see how it affects you, if you take too much you'll get extremely nauseous and puke your guts out.
>>66768290Mine came with a 200 mg cup, but it's not very precise.You should get a scale that has at least one decimal to a gram. I have a cheap chink scale with 2 decimal precision and it works fine.
>>66768295Will do. Thanks again
>>66768290if you order from liftmode, they provide a 1/8 teaspoon measuring spoon with ita flat spoonful of that is about 350-400mg, a heaping teaspoon is more like 500mg
>>66767686I’m 170 lbs and usually take a bit over a gram And yes I have
>>66768544I'm the same weight and have to take 3g to feel anything (tested in social situations) and it lasts way less than everyone says
>>66766542Love it, anyone know a site that delivers to Australia?
>>66768034GABA has practically no real effects, since it does not cross into the brain.If you feel like GABA has been useful, phenibut will do wonders.
>>66766542Broz I can't source phen anywear liftmode is alway out
>>66768034it cant cross the blood brain barrier unlike phenibut, so it doesnt have nearly as an effect
>>66768034Straight GABA is a placebo at best, and gives you weird side effects at worst. Its not psychoactive so it doesn't effect your mental state, and there were a few times that when I took it about ~45 minutes after I got extremely short of breath and felt like I couldn't breathe. This was at 500mg and 1g. These might be retard level doses but the bottle I got came in 500mg capsules
>>66768290Gemini 20 scale on amazon
>>66766542Can I drink alcohol on this?
>>66771334Yes, but you will get shitfaced
>>66771365Because it increases the effect of alcohol, or because it lowers Inhibition so I'll drink more?
>>66771386BothAnyone know a European seller?
>>66771334I had around six shots of vodka 30 hours after taking a dose and ended up out on the street and so incoherent and deranged that I got taken by the police to the hospital for "alcohol poisoning" whereupon they found my BAC level was too low for that to be the answer and started testing me for all kinds of illegal drugs, found nothing and discharged me and I slept it offSo, I'm not going to say "no" but I will say it's a difficult brew
>>66771478Hmmm. I was gonna take it before a frat party. Guess I'll just stick to booze, which makes me moody
>>66771514Yeah don't mix it, 1-2 drinks tops if on pheni. It's absolutely not something to play beer pong with kek
i prefer modafinil but it makes my hands shakey so i cant perform dentistry the best so i only use it for recreational liftingphenibut is decent
None of this garbage ever did jack shit for me. Been sitting unused in my cabinet for like 7 years.
love the feeling of falling asleep and waking up after taking pheni.
>>66771710Did you take it on an empty stomach and make sure not to eat anything after for about an hour?
>>66771716Yes. Back years ago when I was wasting money on it I followed all the guides and tried tons of doses. I’m jealous of people that get results because I just wasted a lot of money. I tried one of them way after the expiration date like last year and felt like I was drunk but I can’t remember which.
I take modafinil everyday. I am useless without it
>>66766542Everyone I know on Phen turns into a weird, anmoying fuck that sounds like they're high 24/7.It's far better to just get more social exposure. Usually people with anxiety have it for a reason like they are constantly violating norms they never bothered to learn about.
>>66771724Where can I buy it?
>>66771734Online. Modalert tablets sourced from India, dirt cheap and they're not bunk so it's legitI've been taking it for years, and the pills were always consistent.
>>66766883You wanna do cardio? get albuterol pills. Best preworkout ever and you can go for hours without feeling spent
Anyone has an alternative to phenibut that isnt booze? I fucking love phenibut, sadly in my country they banned not too long ago. I had a small bag that I finished months ago
>>66771724You never noticed any sides? I get real grouchy if I do it every day.
>>66771805Don't let that gay shit stop you. Gotta be sources online.
>>66766561>>66766542it fuck with your GABA systemjust like benzo and alcohol, you'll develop dependency
Any UK anons taking this? Seems hard to find
>>66771334dont listen to these fags. i usually dose 1.2 grams and have a few drinks throughout the night on special occasions. 10/10 experience
>>66771716I had a colleague that took 1 gram of phenibut, without any effects. Her friend took 200mg at the same time and had a great experience. It really depends on the person
we live in a time where young men have to take drugs to feel normal. It's unironically over
>>66772380Damn weird man.
>>66766559RIght now on kratom love this shit. Pheni occasionally. Both godtier drugs for me
>>66771904No, I'm as placid as they come so it's not like moda exacerbated anything bad within me.
>>66772380Sad thing is, when I took Phenibut I literally thought "Oh, this is what being normal feels like".
>>66771805Klonopin can make you dopey too, if you're not one of those fags who get addicted easily.
>>66766559Kratom tanks your t levels. Don't do it.
>>66766781So what do you use it for?
>>66770285Had the same effect with me when I took it, couldn't breathe (technically I could breathe but I couldn't get enough oxygen it), heart rate shot up, thought I was going to suffocate. Maybe a histamine reaction.
>>66766542withdrawal can kill you. be careful with it.
>>66766542I take ~1.5g phenibut hcl a few times a week most weeks, have done for a couple of years now. Some things I've learned: it takes 3-4 hours to kick in and the more often you've been taking it the longer it takes (sometimes up to 6 hours), any food ruins absorption, tolerance develops reasonably quickly so regular breaks are a good idea, higher doses can be the most euphoric feeling ever but come with physical side effects (weird body load, 'chemical feeling', random muscle twitching, feeling like you can hear the inside of your brain), it can be more disinhibiting than perhaps any other substance, the effects become 'activated' by cardio, it makes music sound incredible, very good for socialising if that makes you anxious, if you overdo it and end up with withdrawal it feels like a bucket of ice on the soul- begins on day 2 and then lasts for exactly 7 days ime (never bothered with tapering), the horror stories on places like reddit are almost always idiots who wound up dosing like 10gpd for months giving themselves psychosis when they try to stop, the 'compulsive redosing' effect is minimised by the long onset time, most normies have never heard of it so it's worth not talking about when you try to explain what it is.
>>66766559kratom is addictive for most people. and if you are taking it regularly, you *will* have your skin and hair age dramatically. you will look older and haggard, people will constantly be asking you "you look tired, you ok?" eventually you will quit it, some months or years later and it will be a very tough, shitty month when you do. your hair and skin will mostly go back to normal after a whilei know from experience. also, ive heard that if you ever had an opioid pill problem in the past, your kratom quit will be 5x worse there is no confidence boost from kratom, and it only calms you down the first time you take it in like a 2 week period. if you take it any more than that, there is no positive feeling to it
I don't trust some sketchy Russian shit that effects brain chemistry. Russian science is Chinese tier, they will cut corners and do not care about consequences
>>66766542Umm guys?? Asked a Russian friend and I got bad news for you. This is a controlled psychoactive drug in ex USSR Don't take it lol
Oh no steroids?
>>66776218>>66776231Is this the legendary Russian bot I've heard so much about?
>>66768260Can liftmode phenibut be taken sub-lingually?Or what's it best to mix with? cause it kinda tastes tart and sour, unpleasant.
>>66776462Phenibut FAA isn't acidic. The other kind can give you stomach ulcers and ruin the enamel on your teeth if you take it too much
>>66766542How often does liftmode restock? Or should I just get the hcl from neurotropic depot?
>>66767014Not out of stock lol tf u talking about
>>66766542its been a while. i like modafinil more, phenibut makes me happy for an hour or two then sleepy as fuck and usually wake up groggy as hell. ive been meaning to try mixing modafinil and phenibut tho i hear thats a great combo
>>66776986Know where I can buy modafinil?
>>66766559kratom is great, but the addiction potential is real. i took it for years and really enjoyed it up until the last year or two when It wasnt actually making me feel good except normal and ive quit a few times the withdrawals are bad with sleeplessness with restless leg syndrome and diarhea for weeks. id say stick to kratom a few times a week you will be fine, but if you start taking it 4-5 times a day it will lose its magic fast
>>66777002buymoda or modafinilXL.... if you are comfortable ordering online there are some other vendors too if you just search around. most of it comes from indian pharma but you can usually find a US based supplier but it will cost a little more. i ordered it strait from india and it made it through customs just fine.