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/fraud/
The "no one else made a fucking thread" edition.
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I started feeling constant pressure in my head, is it time to get rid of some blood?
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>>64467325

No it's time to chimp out and beat women
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>>64467325
Its time to check your blood pressure
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currently on dnp, should I wait until im done to start test? used to both separately but idk about at the same time
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Can I get away with 400mg/week Test-E without any AI? I haven't been able to source any but started pinning this week. I'm only planning a short cycle so hopefully can be in and out before the worst sides show up.
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>>64467608
It's individual, some people need an AI at 200mg some don't need one at 750mg. Get your bloodwork done.
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ADROL + SDROL?
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Is there any decent way to fraud without losing more hair?
I've already lost a noticeable amount without so I'm clearly prone to balding.
I can only think of anavar only.
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>>64468023
RIperino to your liver
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>>64468174
Maybe deca. It's not very androgenic so it seems safe enough. You'd need to keep test high enough to keep dick working, but not so high you start shedding.

I only lose hair on tren, so I can't really confirm or deny though. And all hair lost from tren grows back when I stop taking it.
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>>64468174

Tbol/anavar w/very low dose trt (actual trt)

Deca w/very low dose trt

Could try a moderate dose of test with 1mg fin (300-500mg)

At least with orals if you notice your hair is coming out it'll be out your system quickly.

There's massive variability though. I've had some hair line recession since 16-17, hopped on fin a few years ago and completely halted it.

Used a lot of anabolics and only dbol pissed my hair off. Even 500mg test didn't do anything to my hair.
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>>64467906
What should I be looking for in the blood work? I had some done a month ago that checked a few things but not estrogen levels. Should I get another round done a few weeks into the cycle?
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>>64469130
e2 sensitive assay. If E2 is high and you have symptoms like itchy/sore nipples, you need to take or increase AI dosage.
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>>64468174
Deca only cycle
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Anyone know the relationship between gear, red blood cells and mast cells? I'm aware gear elevates your RBC count. Does this affect your mast cell count?
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>>64469427
Say goodbye to your penis
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>>64468807
Maybe an idea could be to check my T-levels first and then if I take a steroid that doesn't cause hair loss by itself, I just inject enough testosterone to not be terribly much higher than my normal levels (combined with fin and minoxidil).
I'll still making noob gains (about 6 months) so if I ever do a cycle, it won't be any time soon. I'm just trying to learn to see if I'll do it later. At least not this year and probably not next year, maybe the year after that.
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is anavar only good for retards? its not very harsh but should make me a functioning human being (currently 340 test here, no doctor wants to put me on trt because I have chest hair despite obvious mental and physical symptoms and absolutely 0 libido) so I thought anavar would be good because it isnt very harsh and masculinising so it shouldnt fuck up my hormones so bad, right?
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>>64467283
in 3 years I will reject my natty card.
t.22 yo
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Literally killing your own body and shorten your lifespan by 30 years just to look good for a few years.

These threads are the most retarded on this board
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>Received the roids a week ago
>Ordered the needles last night
>Didn't bother ordering PCT for the first time

I will now cross over into the dark side
My life will now be nothing more than sticking needles into myself and picking up heavy pieces of metal.
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>>64471244
here for a good time not a long time
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>>64471250
based

>>64471244
cringe
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>>64471244
>I want to turn 80+ so i can slowly die of cancer or Alzheimers disease and rot the last 20 years of my life away while being forgotten by the world

wow great plan champ! I want to die at the age of 63 while high on coke and viagra banging a 20 year old caribbean prostitute.
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>>64471493
You wont even get to that age and die by 50 since your organs start dying then faggot
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>>64467283
Can I do one 14 week cycle of 400mg test and some hcg, and completely regain/retain endocrine function and fertility? I just want to fast forward some gains. I’ll wait until I’m 24 (6 months time), and I’ll be at 1/2/3/4 and have 18 months of working out and solid diet.
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>>64471507
Fuck it, i want to die at the age of 33 if this means i die at the peak of my life. What the fuck i wanna turn so old that i have to shit in a diaper again?
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>>64471203
It still shuts down your balls.
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>>64471628
You should suicide right now 20yo retard if you think 33 is the peak
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Alright guys, I had my fun but now I think it's time for me to cycle off. I was thinking about cruising on 75mg x 2 per week of test for the next four weeks to let the other stuff clear out of my system then dropping the test for three weeks before starting PCT with nolvadex. Thoughts?
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Did my second pin today. Didn't have to work up the courage like the first one, but didn't have the adrenaline either. Was standing in the bathroom with the shower running, and it kept sounding further and further away, until I couldn't hear it at all. Managed to finish and sit down before actually fainting, but god damn, I didn't realize how much doing this myself was going to bother me. Never had anywhere close to this reaction when someone else has used a needle on me. Strangely, I hated the first pin, but found myself looking forward to the next one. I hated the second pin even more, but I'm still kind of excited to try the third.
Sorry to blog post, but have other anons had this reaction as well?
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>>64467283
The heck? Where do I find all of that here in the US? :(
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>>64467283
>make thread using picture of gear with easily googleable ugl labels
hope no one reports it, OP
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>>64472606
dont know why you have a hard time with the difference between a lab and a source
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>>64472825
when it comes to ugls, they're one and the same.
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>>64472841
no
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>>64467447
I'd do a TRT dose, personally. But there's no real reason to be on gear, especially not at a high dose.
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I'm losing my hair but (so far) very slowly. First started at around age 17, I'm 30 now and most people don't notice.

I'm thinking about doing a test cycle and I was wondering if I face the same risks by taking fin during my 16 week cycle? I know it'll nuke my hair as all the extra test will be converting to DHT and raping the hair follicles. I really want to do a cycle but still want to hold onto my hair for as long as I can. If I was at the point of buzzing, I would do it without fin.
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>>64470554
It's hair or penis. You can't pick both (if you're prone to mpb)
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>>64467608
>>64467906
bloodwork is good and probably necessary but again e2 is very much about feel, my levels are 4x higher (blood concentration) at 700mg a week than a friends of mine's and he's taking 200mg alongside alongside higher doses of dht based compounds, but still has estrogenic effects come in way easier than me and stops spicy nips with a serm, but i have low high e2 sides all around no need for an AI

so basically yes you can start
but also
>short cycle
this on the other hand is dumb, especially if you're only using test, 16 weeks minimum with a higher dose if you're going to pct. you'll actually make gains and if you're lucky you'll keep some
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>>64471203
Anavar will do the opposite of what you want. Just buy test e and take .5ml a week if you want trt.
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>>64472521
no because i'm not a dum dum who doesn't use insulin needles
use them and you'll forget you even pinned anything
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>>64471493
Cringe
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>>64471493
Based and old school /fit/
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how was your first time, /fit/?
Mine was pretty awful. Test made me anxious, felt like I was getting gyno two days after first dose of test, since I worked chest and had some chest hair growing, it felt like my nipples were in pain and that it was itchy all over. If I could go back I'd tell myself to get my head fixed before doing it
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>>64473411
it actually is prescribed for trt, had below 200ng/dl and im in 30's.
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>>64471244
lmao, these are the faggots that get mad when they're mogged at the gym.
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>>64474276
mostly uneventful. I kickstarted my first ever cycle with dbol and learned that that was gyno in a pill for me even at low doses, so that was fun. I was on 25mg of asin a day and that still wasn't enough, it also fucked my aromatase for a while. even after weeks being off of dbol I still had to pop asin like candy on just 500mg test. 2 blasts later I needed less than 12.5mg once a week (with more or less the same bf%). I was underwhelmed, people who have never been on definitely overhype the shit out of roids. a babby 500mg/week cycle is basically the equivalent of bringing noob gains back as an intermediate/advanced lifter, which is really good but nowhere near what people make it out to be.

it started getting really fun many blasts later when I realized high test isn't for me and that I respond much better to low test + high doses of other compounds.
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It took me a gram of gear to get the confidence to open up a dating profile, wish me luck bros
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>>64474276
I gained 30lbs of muscle within four months.
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>>64467283
Unironically any permablasters here?
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>>64468624
I don't care if my dick doesn't work for a couple of months as long as there's no lasting effects.
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>>64474663
yes
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>>64474663
I wouldn't call it blasting because I am under a gram but I cruise on 500 test 400 mast, thinking about adding tren or eq and I'd cruise on that too.
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>>64471624
This is what I want too except I'm 30 and know I'm prone to balding. It looks like it'll be difficult for me to find anything perfect.
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>>64474696
"anything less than a gram is a cruise" this is a true permablaster bro
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>>64467906
Like other anons say it's individual but I haven't had problems going up to 700 a week, but I've been staying around 500. I had some bloating the first month but I cut down on the sodium and it went away. My nipples have never felt weird or itchy.
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>>64474663
Been blasting tren for months, upped the test to 1G to bulk a couple of months ago
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>>64470554
Just temporarily right? Then I don't care. I haven't had sex for years and I'm pretty sure no girl will magically appear at my door any time soon
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>>64468023
SDROL plus some kind of liver support and only run it for a short time.
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>>64474787
Use it or lose it.
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>>64471244
This is the person that makes threads like "For me, It's Jameson Irish whiskey. What's your drink of choice boys?" and "Smoking a pipe is based and masculine"
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hey /fraud/ steroid abusers, i heard SARMs are good, who knows a good source :D
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>>64471624
14 weeks isn't shit. You'll probably be disappointed in the results and you will be suppressed. That said though, PCT wasn't even much of a thing until the last 20 years. Bodybuilders who blasted like crazy have children long after.
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>>64474805
That's not true
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Are blood tests really necessary? I plan to do 600mg test a week and 500mg equipiose + dbol and anavar preload and finish as my first cycle for like 20-24 weeks.
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>>64475033
You’re right
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>>64475054
no one actually gets blood tests
you just go by how big your arms get
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>>64475054
what exactly do you think you will accomplish with a blood test lol
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>>64475054
you only get sick if you find out about it
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>>64475054
>4 compounds on first cycle
brilliant, I see absolutely no issue with this
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>>64467283
First cycle starts thanksgiving day. 600mg Test + 12.5-20mg Dbol kickstart. How do I avoid growing tits? Start with 1mg Adex e3d?
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>>64474696

>cruising on tren

based and Icarus pilled
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>>64475320

0.5 and titrate up or down
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>enhanced cruising
>1830ng/dl test
>85pg/ml est
>BP 150/80
You guys think it's the estrogen?
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>>64475320
you are going to need a lot more than 1mg adex e3d on 600mg test and 20mg dbol
report back on your tits, hope you ordered some letro and raloxifene
inb4 he will be fine etc
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>>64476834
he COULD be fine. I very much wouldn't be and I'd grow some nice milkers, but not everyone's the same.
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>>64467283
Yo, cardio been impossible lately because my shins and quads just get like massively pumped up, to the point I can barely move my legs anymore????

I'm only on 250 mg test EW, how tf do I fix this lmao
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Imagine being so fucking weak that you must take this shit from the pharmajews. Why are you even lifting? you failed as a /fit/izen, you never had any gains so your only solution is this shit.

Definitely didn't make it, absolutely pathetic
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>>64476955
Keep coping, deadlift was 260kg at 95kg before even touching juice.

Can you even pull 5 plates? 4? 3?
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>>64476955
how long at what dose do i cycle this for?
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>>64476834
I’m just gonna drop the Dbol and go down to 500mg test then. I don’t have ralox or letro, just 20 1mg Adex and a ton of nolva
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>>64476932

try taking some magnesium
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>>64476955
bless your little cotton socks
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>>64476976
20 mg ed 12 weeks at least
also say goodbye to moneys
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>>64476955
lol, I bench more than natty than you ever did.
>>64476976
pin pussy
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Anyone used methyl test as a preworkout?
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I got banned from reddit, bros... i was having so much fun.
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>>64467283
Is it true steroid's increase jaw size? Which ones are the best at increasing jaw size? Least downsides?
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>>64478067
Yeah they do but it takes a while. As always start with test.
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>>64478067
no
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I get the whole no sources but hypothetically what would be a good place to go if I hypothetically want to get big
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>>64478304
google
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>>64467283
ANONS
IS there something wrong with me?
I've been taking LGD for 3 and half weeks now and every time i take a shit i end up bleeding out of me asshole, i assume it's just tearing from the shit? Or am i fked bros and do i need to go to a doctor?
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>>64478475
so what do you type in google for sources to get anobolic steroids, anon?
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>>64478605
exactly what you just typed in this post
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>>64478555
>sarms
Don't know don't care
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>>64478605
If you can't figure it out then stay the fuck away from steroids and kill yourself for being so goddamed incompetent. Seriously, don't start. You're not smart enough and will eventually chemically castrate yourself and grow tiddies.
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>>64476955
But chinksects make my gear
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Can anyone explain the science behind loss of gains when coming off a cycle? I understand the relationship between muscle growth and testosterone, but surely if maintained a good diet and exercise regime off cycle the muscles I put on while on cycle would mostly remain, no? I'm not just going to atopy like crazy because of a short dip in test levels.
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>>64479794
Yeah you can maintain most of it if you do it right. The main loss is the look, fullness, water weight and glycogen. The dip in test does hurt as well. And the further past your natty level the more you’ll loose.
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>>64471212
Proud of you..
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>>64472606
Oh my god youre so right I'm so scared dude what should I do? How do I delete this thread please God help I'm so afraid of the Law.
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>>64477349
Yeah but it's all fake, you lift thanks to the roids not thanks to your legit gains.

I don't care how much you lift, if you are a roidtard you are pathetic
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>>64482503
Cope
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>>64482503
>reddit spacing
>natty seething
I pinned today, you mad?
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>depressed
>take AI
>still depressed
Guess I'm just depressed.
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>>64467283
Look at you with your fancy labels and shit
My shit comes in powders marked bean flour and I weigh it out into jars I'm afraid to mark
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had to take 2nd dose of the clotshot yesterday to keep my job now I feel like shit... will probably need to miss the gym. Don't feel "sick" really just plain fucking tired... like I havent slept in 2 days and just ran a marathon. Just laying on my couch and watching my work computer for important emails.... luckily almost everyone is off for thanksgiving week... and I can barely stay awake for 10 minutes.

Just made myself a double strong coffee, we'll see how this goes. If I drop dead of a heart attack its been fun frens.
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>>64471250
still got my pct stuff from my "first cycle" they expired 5years ago lel

fuck going off, on for live
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>>64471250
you should have a PCT drug on hand just incase something happens and you need to drop the test even if you plan to BnC for life... I mean you can just do like bodybuilders in 70s did and simply stop pinning but PCT will make things a lot easier for most people.
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>>64483820
I keep undeca on hand in case I need to stop pinning for a while lmao
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>>64483820
>>64483963
I humbly suggest keeping a bottle of triptorelin around. Once shot and you get ~2mo of HPTA stimulation. Reasonably all you need to emergency PCT. A large single dose of a SERM would help too.
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6 months on 600mg a week, what do you think of my progress?

I wasn't prepared for how much my body hair would grow but I really think I look great and I've been spending a lot of time at the beach!
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>>64484151
shit b8 m8
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>>64483491
all of my vials are unlabeled and i use my autism to associate the colored tops with the different drugs in the vials
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>>64484048
>triptorelin
Try harder anon

>>64484151
Terrible effort anon... at least claim you used Melanotan during your cycle.
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>>64484151
600mg melanotan is way too much, you only need to taper up to 1mg per day tops for a week or so and then you can maintain on a few mg a week
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>>64484348
Triptorelin is no bate m8

Just make sure its mcg not mg ;)
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>>64483574
I started going back to my old gym and found a gym acquaintance today who I know for a fact got the shot. He seems to be exhibiting Bell's Palsy but I didn't say anything about it.
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>>64484884
based retard
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>>64484151
Looks like 3 months on 200mg/week
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>>64484912
looks like 30 years on 0mg/week
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>>64471203
i've ran it before only anavar and didn't notice anything, I did feel hornier though
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>>64471203
rope, its the only way to be sure
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>>64467283
I’m red as fuck like I got a sun burn. I think it’s from the gear. What could be causing this? I’m just taking 500mgs of test E.
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>>64485002
Fake var. Anyone who says they didn't feel var hasn't used real var or severely underdosed it. 50mg and you can feel the increased sympathetic drive and pumps. When you think you're squeezing your hardest it allows you to squeeze even harder.

Can't wait to try anadrol.
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>>64467283
how do you even inject this?
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>>64485131
you take the syringe filled with liquid and inject it into your muscles
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>>64485153
nono i mean measurements and location, i remember that guy who shot in his inner thighs saying your glutes are the best spot.
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>>64485183
you fill up the syringe and shoot it into your glute right at the top under your waist line, the syringe has the measurements on it lol
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>>64467608
I used to skip it, but Im using one this time and I feel much much better- get the AI if you can, but just be ready to stop early if you can't.
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TA is so crazy nowadays, I literally get my steroids faster than I get my amazon prime packages.
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Anyone run deca? I have some, but no caber. Anyone have experience with deca sides?
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>>64486662
caber will fuck your brain up
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AHHHHHHH
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>>64478304
Steroids without the st dot com pal, figure it out from there
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I need an answer for this thread:
>>64485799 (OP)
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>>64467283
hey quick question, and I really hope that this isn't a bannable offense & I'm sorry if so for asking, but I wanted to know if anyone could point to a good clinic or source or something? I've already gotten my blood work done & taken a few courses in endocrinology but the TRT clinics are rather expensive for the volume. Please & thank you
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>>64467348
based
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How do I fraud into trt? Just got tested and was at 500
Should I do baby's first cycle and no pct then get tested. My insurance would 100% cover it if it was 350
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>>64488482
don't waste your money bro, get ugl test and do your own TRT protocol.
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>>64488947
She’s definitely a freak when she gets her sleep
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redpill me on clenbuterol
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>>64489201
I heard its hard on the heart.
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>>64489201
The redpill is: safety wise it's worse than salbutamol in almost every way
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How much do you pay for gear in America? I'm paying $120 a month for everything.
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>>64489201
Best cardio gains you’ll ever see. Mile time went down by almost an entire minute on this shit. Didn’t get me very shredded tho despite being in a huge deficit. Would recommend just to experience the cardio gains.
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>>64490031
Literally $55 for a 20ml vial of test, so incredibly cheap it’s unreal
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was it worth it /fraud/sters?
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>>64471244
what else am i am going to do with my life
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Can I run low dose tren forever
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I'm seriously considering doing a phlebotomy of 500ml to myself, by myself, alone in my bathroom. Is this a fantastic idea or what?
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>>64491446
Why? Just donate blood, nigga. They don't check for anything other than STDs
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Any advice on running MT2 for the first time that isn’t the usually dosing info. Will I die if I order off a chinese site? Feel as though there’s no culpability on their part. Also when the 1ml insulin needle is fully loaded does it have to be refridgerated inbetween uses?
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Winstrol and test during cut
What dosages?

Also, does Nolva actually become bad after expiration date? I have some nolva that expired about a year ago.
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>warm up oil
>pin delt
>must've hit a nerve, hurts a little more than usual
>pull out the needle right after the plunger is down
>blood and oil leak out, soak the square inch alcohol wipe
It's like watching gains go down the drain. Fuck.
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>>64491446
I've done it, it's hard to hit the vein right.
Some people pass out if they see blood, so you might bleed out, as the blood just keeps pouring out not stop while you are passed out unconscious.
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>>64467283

do i need to run pct after using 20miligrams of Dianabol for 1 month? Dbol only cycle.
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Because of tren I sabotaged my relationship. I'd give these gains back for her in a heart beat
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>>64492893
Anger, cheating or what? Does NPP cause the same anger?
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>>64493048
Sucked her brothers dick and then fucked him in the ass.
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How do you heat up your oil?
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>>64493253
I did never heat it, why would you do that?
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do i need to do pct for sarms ?
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>>64493273
as far as i know if u use Rad140, Yk11, Lgd4033, S23 PCT is recommended not sure tho.
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>>64493269
If it's too thick to inject through that specific needle.
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>>64493048
Anger. Like basically sent her a message meant to destroy her self esteem
Before that I was experimenting with how being can asshole to her made her submissive but I kept pushing it too far. Started with making her laugh by making fun of the weight she put on and kept getting more toxic
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>>64493366
Oh, you fucked up, there's no coming back from that.
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gib discord link
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>>64493403
You glow bro
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>>64493378
There's a few things I'm going to try before giving up. Like get shredded (and bigger), social status max and practice a lot of game for when we inevitably see other in person
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First time pinning quads. Used at 27g needle so I wasn’t worried about any pain doing it but wtf shit hurt. Putting it in was fine and easy, but when I was pushing the plunger down it started hurting and felt really tight. Did I press too fast or something ?
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>>64493269
I found that it feels much less unpleasant when I inject warmer oil.
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>>64493864

more nerves in quads compared to something like glutes
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>>64494405
you would feel a nerve the second the needle even starts touching it, not when you're already in the muscle and pressing on the plunger. what does that have to do with his post?
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>>64494581
the needle might not have touched it lol
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>>64485084
Blood pressure maybe

Do your LISS cardio
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what's a good amount of test for cruising?
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>>64488236
cause once you check in you can always go but never leave
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>>64488236
It's one of the first things mentioned in the reddit wiki.
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>>64492353
its not turning into poison. medical products have to have an experation date for legal reasons. they do degrade over time but that just means either they concentration is droping or the absorption rate is falling.

you can savely use most stuff 1-2 years longer and even after its more like a 20mg tab only does 10mg work
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>>64492253
Do I need to show ID? I'm ineligible to donate and don't want to bloodlet myself
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>>64493145
anon skipped the tranny phase and went straight to gay.

mad respect
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I feel that taking PCP has possibly helped my muscle growth even though I don't go to the gym just do manual labor. Thoughts?
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>>64495300
what do you think? they just gonna take a bag of blood no questions asked?
what shithole country you live in? i guess us
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Sometimes i just wanna hop on tren to feel hypersexual again. Normal libido feels kinda boring now bros
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>>64494719
250mg sust weekly
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>>64493366
>roiding for this
ngmi. roidfags stay taking L's LOL
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>>64467608
It shouldn’t be needed for your cycle. Usually people would tell you don’t because it’s 400 mg a week but then again others need it anyways . Maybe if you start pinning without it start using the AI once you get bloated and acne then use it. AI have side effects you don’t want and are dangerous later. So it’s better to use without if you want better health.
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>>64493253
You buy electronic Warmer. Like candle wax warmers, leave the test on it inject after it feels hot.
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>>64493253
Run the vial under hot water for a bit, and let it sit in a cup of hot water until you're ready to draw
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Idk if sarms counts for /fraud/ but I can't see why not. Does it really fuck with your test afterwards? I meant to run 8 weeks and then just go natty for a while afterwards, and they're the only thing I have a source for. But what should I do after the cycle to minimize test impact, IS there anything?
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>>64492855
Lmao where do you people come from?
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World War II was instigated because Hitler was in search of melanin rich assholes to bleach. Beca2use the minorities he preyed upon, the Jews, did not produce enough melanin in their Pineal Glands they were tossed aside and Genocided. The entire point of World War II was so Hitler could ponder upon black assholes to bleach, as that is the only point of White Male Masculinity.

Sodomy was legalized in the United States as to avert white men from going to such lengths to obtain the means of gay sex.
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>>64496949
sarms are better than roids and you wont risk affecting your dick health. these faggots are too buttblasted about their irreversible side effects from abusing roids lmao.
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>>64497134
>sarms are better than roids and you wont risk affecting your dick health.
>t. 80iq sarm baby zoomer
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>>64497235
>>64497134
Elaborate



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