commercial food has WAAY too much salt
>>63917527Did /pol/ meme salt into a hate symbol?
>>63917527Garbage. The “science” behind low sodium is garbage. Read The MD Emperor Has No Clothes.
>>63917527why is modern nutritional science so dogshit? > salt causes high blood pressure> dietary cholesterol increases MI riskits like the bloody dark ages
>>63917544salt does raise blood pressure but it raises it to a normal healthy level in people without other cardiovascular issuesobviously brainlets over at the fda/cdc cannot comprehend this fact though
>>63917544>why is modern nutritional science so dogshit?Follow the (((money))). Salt probably exacerbates issues in combination with other shit compounds in food. Better to take down salt than the other shit that’s killing fatsos.
inb4 conservatives start hording salt
>>63917544because they want you sick and unwell.
>>63917527Luckily I'm not American and eat a shit ton of processed salty foods
>>63917527im guessing high salt in food protects you from viruses
>>63917682kek. I’m guessing it’s perfectly fine if not healthy in a moderate diet but not if you’re morbidly obese.
>>63917544>>63917557>>63917659I'm a perfectly healthy individual. I weight lift 6 days a week and do 3 25 HIIT cardio sessions per week. Dropping my salt intake to 2600mg a day lowered my blood pressure from 148 to 118.
>>63917527funny how they have plans to reduce it by 12% which means they already know the outcome and were testing others methods and found that 12 is what they need to come toalways remember, shit is planned ahead salt was originally added to food because of iodine and how drastically it reduces hypothyroidism
>>63917742eating 5g of salt a day lowered my blood pressure from 165 to 120
>>63917544dietary cholesterol causes atherosclerosis and high blood pressure
>>63917764Oh shit man let me make some shit up too. uhhh eating 30g of salt made my blood pressure better and my loads are huge now.
>>639177429 anaerobic events per weeks is not healthy you are either not working out hard or you are extremely fatigued from overtraining
>>63917780>things I say are true>things you say are made upyeah, how can you lose an argument.
>>63917803https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6770596/Find me a single piece of scientific literature that has a negative correlation between salt and blood pressure.>>63917784t. doesn't understand how to apply periodization to their training to bring down systemic fatigue Here you go brother. This will really help out your lifting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuG-gvFtSgU
>>63917527Japanese people consume 3x as much salt as us and have less issues. Salt is good for you. Just need to drink enough water.
>>63917871the only thing that reduced my blood pressure significantly is removing sugar from my diet.The difference in eating 100mg of salt vs eating 3000mg of salt was 2 points.fuck you and fuck your kike studies, I will trust real world testing over what some faggot tells me.>bro who you going to believe, real world data and your own lying eyes, or shekelstein tell you what to believe?!
>>63917527Salt is only really an issue if you're obese, and most Americans are fat as fuck, so it makes sense.If you're healthy, don't worry about it.
>>63917527I'm eating green olives to spite those bitches. Worthless bastards are wrong about everything.
>>63917659This. Better customers
>>63917920>>63917903Thats what I thought lol
>>63917872I'm not Japanese.
>>63917872They also get like five times the iodine our government recommends. 90% of Americans probably have low level iodine deficiencies.
>>63917742i imagine getting off 4chan would decrease it more
>>63917780As another data point decreasing my sodium made my blood pressure go up very slightly (let's call it no change), but increasing potassium dropped it 20 points.
I don't give a fuck about blood pressure.
>>63917659and who's they huh?
>>63917527The FDA nutritional daily values are retarded anyways. They recommend you eat 4x as many carbs as protein. That means 3000 calorie diet would have almost 450 grams of carbs with only 110 grams of protein.
>>63917544>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23263240/>These data demonstrate that excess salt intake in humans impairs endothelium-dependent dilation independently of changes in blood pressure.> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22048126/> Thus, changes in plasma sodium concentration occur each time a meal containing salt is consumed> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23141486/>Dietary sodium restriction reverses vascular endothelial dysfunction in middle-aged/older adults with moderately elevated systolic blood pressure. > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22907057/>These data demonstrate that dietary sodium loading impairs cutaneous microvascular function independent of BP in normotensive adults and suggest a role for oxidative stress.> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21228265/>These results suggest that high salt intakes have acute adverse effects on vascular dilatation in the postprandial state
>>63917742Which is like double RDI. The advice from these folks is less salt is better, unbounded. Their advice is basically to eliminate salt from your diet.OK advice if you're eating lots of processed food, but no one should be eating lots of processed foods.
>>63918128You can get most of your sodium from whole foods as well. Just about everything has some sodium already in it. From meats to starches.
>>63917527good, good. more room for sugar.
>>63918058Qui is "who", not "what".
>>63918047>>63918058the people profiting off you
>>63917742Same thing for me. /fit/ doesn't realize that things like high blood pressure can have different factors. Some people have fatness cause hypertension, others genetics, others salt, and some live the most unhealthy lives and have perfect pressure. If low salt works for you, do it.
>>63918120you do know it's extremely easy to test this shit for yourself and see results right?More salt, less salt, more water/less water, more pottassium, less potassium.Hmmmm would be a real shame if people would just test thing for themselves independantly and didn't just eat up whatever kike papers write?Real....shame....
>>63918220this, its all a plot by big salt alternatives
>>63917527salt is literally iodized at least here in the states, and I have to consume just enough salt to reach the minimum recommended dose to reach 100% RDI for iodine
>>63918257I take kelp tablets for iodine. They don't recommend enough.
>>63918356What's the capital of Kentucky?
>>63918423Nah it's Frankfort. Nashville is Tennessee. Not actually sure if it's their capital though.
>>63918372In all serious, Janny deleted my post, a basedjak, but didn’t ban me. This censorship is deeply disturbing.
>>63918438I’m from bongistan so I’m not familiar with burger state capitals kek
>>63917527This nothing to do with salt and everything to do with you mutts being fat fucks and eating ridiculous amounts of processed food.
>>63918460I couldn't tell you the capitals of a lot of our states. You memorize it once for a test in middle school and then forget.
>>63917544this is the true dark age fren, from the 5th to the 15th century it was a fucking paradise by comparison, butgood thing it is not the jews, the jews are good people
bros .... i just want to eat more salt ....
>>63917527Is this the same group of people who for 30 years told everyone they should stop eating eggs and then had to finally admit they just made shit up?
>>63917527>ionized salt raised IQ's by something like 15 points over a few generations>shut. It. Down!Fuck the (((FDA)))
>>63917527I just ate a whole jar of green olivesFuck you, pussies
>>63919218Based as fuck
>>63917757Iodine is added to salt dumbass. They could easily add it to another staple food aswell,salt is just the most ubiquous.
>>63919250Used to be in flower>implying they want people to have ideal iodine levels
>>63919261*flourI'm dumb and distracted
>>63917852>left ventricular hypertrophy>hypertrophyYou aren't a real bodybuilder until you've felt a pump in your blood pump.
>>63919218>haha I owned the libs by killing myselfso based
>>63917544The whole heart department is fucked.Studies are all funded by big corporations that cherry pick shit to show how good their product is for health.Proper ones can't get funded and get sabotaged by companies so they can't get exposure.Most studies are garbage questionnary shit and long-term ones can't be done because it's against "human rights" to force people to diet so they are banned.
>>63917542Enjoy your water retention
>>63919645water retention is good, actually.
>>63919652A degree of it, yes. An excess, not really especially since it elevates blood pressure. The constant peeing sucks too as your body tries to regulate it back into range if you carry too much. It's not a huge deal, wont magically kill you. But there's a sweet spot.
>>63917527>FDAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAYour body craves salt, because it needs it. It also needs a balance between water and minerals, drink water and you're gonna crave salty food. Eat salty food and you're gonna crave water. That's it, no need to reduce it or have more.
>>63917527How about some sugar regulation fda?you fucking faggots.
/fit/ only has a problem with this because we exercise and drink plenty of water, so our bodies are plenty capable of managing our salt levels. You guys have to realize the average person is a sedentary retard and barely drinks water at all, and that's who these recommendations are meant for. Don't take personal offense to them trying to fix the average overweight American.
>>63919732Sedentary retards should be eliminated. Also salt isn't itself making anyone fat.
>>63919732thisAll of these dietary reccomendations are not for people who are trying to be their best selves, or better than average. They are for the type of guy who goes to his 9-5 office job 5 days a week, goes for a jog maybe once a week but mostly sits at home and watches TV. Claims to care about health but really just says that for social points, and follows these standards these organisations set out for them.
>>63919688>Your body craves salt, because it needs iAh shit this is some top tier logic. I guess those 400lb fatties who crave more calories must NEED them because the body is totally adapted to the surplus of food we find ourselves in for the last 50 years right? Oh wait....Find a rope
>>63918148Ty I shall fix that
>>63918058The people and companies who stand to gain something from it, coincidentally, a certain group is over represented in their ranks...
>>63919984>>63919117>>63918220>>63918145Literal schizophrenics.Not everything is Muh Jews.
>>63919919Humans do need salt dumbass
>>63920092Humans need calories too dumbass. What's your fucking point?There is such a thing as over consumption
>>63917871>t. doesn't understand how to apply periodization to their training to bring down systemic fatigueeverybody does - use roids, fuck off i like my balls full and healthy, they get mogged by dick as is anyways
>>63920223Periodization doesn't have anything to do with roids you mongoloid. Actually watch the video
>>63917527I mean the fda wants you to eat mainly carbs too so....
>>63917852If you're low salt the body will take it from the bones, also releasing magnesium and something else I can't remember, which cause weaker bones. So what are the science for lower mineral density in bones on HIGH salt?Salt is a VITAL nutrient and the we were to follow the current guidelines we'd die. Luckily there are a lot of salt in food.
They'll put more old people on even lower salt intake and the next summer heatwave will kill even more people.Check the news in ~8 month's.
>>63917564How does anyone profit from you eating less salt? Take your meds
>>63922807The entire system is set up to make you sick so pharmaceuticals can profit off you.
>>63917544And why do you believe YouTube man selling click bait sensational truth$™ instead of very worldwide expert consensus on those matters?
>>63920761>Luckily there are a lot of salt in food.>>63922832>The entire system is set up to make you sick
>>63922898Stop trying to make sense of these schizos, they'll just come up with more nonsense
>>63917639lol I can see that happening. Culture race war in USA affects everything. Trumptards don't believe anything coming from le system anymore and do the opposite on principle. Perfect light switch brain goy cattle to fink at.
>>63919669Then consume more potassium salts ez fix really or use msg which for the sodium content tastes more salty
>>63917527>Federal Lifting Authority issues lower rep/weight guidelines: Being fit is anti-anti-blah blah blahwhy don't people just make their own decisions and live with the consequences?
>>63917852>added at the tableI never eat food with people. Wouldn't it look rude to salt somebody else's cooking?
>>63922970Ever notice how anons who post little anime girls are terrible while people anons who post real little girls are bros?
>>63917742>Gives blood pressure as a single numberConfirmed for Hall of Fame retard.
I take iodine and test supplements and I still have a good BP. >>63923007No.
>>63923007I think it's safe to say if you're here you're probably a horrible person. Trying to hide it behind an anime facade just let's people know you're at least a little ashamed of it.
>>63923007The best people are the ones who post full grown anime babes
>>63917639>>63922970>Hey the government says something about salt>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ORANGE MAN BADJesus fucking Christ he's not even President anymore. Can you deranged idiots please find another note to screech?
>>63923053I didn't say orange man bad, I commented on your culture race war. I mean I'm not wrong am I?
>>63917527>am i out of touch with reality from all the youtube chiropractors that i have watched?>no its a big conspiracy by the lean meat and vegtable industry telling you that sugar, lard and high sodium processed foods are unhealthy
>>63923085Yes and noThe guidelines are based on what would be beneficial to the majority of the population which are old, fat, sedentary, blobs. The problem is when it becomes regulations in places like new york that have broader legal impacts on country and shapes our eating habits through force. Because the pigs they're trying to protect from themselves would never listen to the guidelines any how. Just more eventual authoritarian policy and less personal responsibility and the freedom that comes with that.
>>63923147>shapes our eating habits through forcewould be cool if they actually did that for fat people, have dietary recommendations ever become policy outside of fringe cases like limiting caffein
>>63917742>A perfectly healthy individual>Blood pressure of 148Here’s your (you)
>>63923085lard is unironically healthier than most dietary fats
>>63922951Dumb cattle like you deserve everything they get.https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/revolutionandrevelation/72407
>>63920223Dear lord you're a brainlet.
I shake as much salt onto my food as possible before it gets the unedible sting to it, and no one can stop me.
>>63917784>9 anaerobic events per weeks is not healthy you are either not working out hard or you are extremely fatigued from overtrainingNot him but tell me more. I want to hear the theory behind this because it more or less agrees with my experience and i need to know why
>>63917742>HIITSo you don't train cardio?
>>63923188Yeah yeah, you're a proud lion, everyone who disagrees with you is a sheep blah blah
>>63923187>trust me I heard this from rotten meat eating baldy, chiropractor and acupuncturist
>>63923385Exactly my point.
>>63923016Or maybe, only his systolic was elevated so listing the diastolic was pointless
>>63917527>the FDAthe same people who recommend only 40g of protein a day? Yeah these are the people I would listen to.... fucking lmao
>>63923170In Europe, yes. They have a tax on sugar that limited the amount in the food supply. So far, it's helped reduce obesity and health problems slightly.
>>63917527Good. Do more things to create unhealthy sojaboys. I will still eat sugar, salt and saturated fat and there's nothing that will chamge this
>>63923691They recommend 50g/day as a minimum for anyone over the age of 4. They don't really have a maximum. And a physically active adult definitely needs more than a 4 year old. Minimums are just that, minimums.
>>6392390650g limit is retarded and should be removed
>>63923984>LimitGod you're a brainlet. It's not a limit, it's a minimum. If you eat less than that you have a protein deficiency. You're supposed to eat more than 50g daily. Even if you're a small child. They aren't saying "don't eat 200g of protein per day". They're saying "don't eat less than 50g. If you're only eating 30g of protein per day, it's not enough for your body and you need to up that."
>>63918120Salt effect on all health markers is incredibly individual for genetic and behavioural reasons.
>>63923187Beef tallow*Lard is trash
>>63917534>>63917639>today I made a difference
>>63917774No, elevates lipids are a symptom of atherosclerosis
>>63917774Dietary cholesterol does nothing. That myth was disproven ages ago.
anyone else like to suck on salt flakes throughout the day?
>>63917527>reduce public intake of electrolytes>people gas out faster>people get fatter>covid deaths rise>lockdowns foreverYeah, I see what they're up to.
>>63918215>the 23 year old Whatever Works For Yoomer
>>63917527this is retarded, why don't they limit the amount of sugar and HFCS in food products instead?
cause non-whites dont take salt well