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To anyone who has done nofap for 90+ days is it worth doing? What benefits have you noticed if any? I dont care about your opinion unless you have actually done it
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>>63914336
Yes, I lost libido.

Good.
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>>63914336
ive been on nofap for a few months. havent noticed any big benefits, but i still enjoy the freedom from my former coomer brain
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did nofap once for a month. and in my experience I felt less tired and had more energy. also had better concentration and a better mood.
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day 126 currently

libido is on the floor and my skin is acne free
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>>63914336
true to life sexual dreams but then I wake up with cum all over my bed sheets and body
So kind of a win/lose situation
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>>63914336
Nofap for a few months. What this guy said >>63914416

Also, I've in these same months I've devoted much more time to self improvement. Gained 20 pounds of muscle. Another way to view it; what is being a coomer STOPPING you from doing?
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>>63914336
My record is 138 days. Happiest time of my life, also I was close to become a divine figure in my university. I was considered by many some kind of messiah by the way I spoke and helped people. I want to break my record.
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>>63916426
I always believed if I hadnt broke the streak I would had become some kind of jesus or hitler. I seriousky tell you my spirit was growing much bigger and it was taking control over me.
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>>63914336
Yeah, I’ve been celibate for 3 years now
Woman rarely cross my mind these days, the world is just so big, so many things to experience, I love being alive
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>>63916426
>I was considered by many some kind of messiah
bait
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How do you do it mayn. What finally got you over that first week/2/month hump
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>>63914336
I've only done nofap November, but the only real changes was having low libido and finding other things to do when you're bored.
The inital test boost was nice while it lasted, but that went away fast.
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>>63914336
Didn't fap until I was 18. My autism became far less severe after is started, so no, not worth it at all.
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I had a better time just not using porn. Lot of low t people in here if they're just not trolling. You don't lose your libido, you lose your porn addiction. These guys have spent their entire lives jerking off to other people's fantasies over the internet that they have no idea what their own sexual identities are.
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>>63916835
WRONG. See
>>63916801
Nofap ain't do goddamn shit for me other than make me naive to sex
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>>63914336
Everytime I go past 3 months I get laid.
Everytime. Never reached 4 months because of that
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>>63914336
Yes but I'm truly an addict. The way I watch porn involves a few hours at least and possibly a tens unit with the electric pads on my dick to feel like it is getting sucked.

When I'm done my brain is completely fried for a few days from dopamine rebound.

So taking a break from it for a few weeks makes me feel like a different person. Or I guess how a normal person is supposed to feel.

I recommend reading easypeasy method.org and if you fall off the wagon reread it. The website has a free audiobook as well to listen to while doing chores.
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>>63914336
You're only supposed to do it one week at a time
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>>63914336
unless you are a bit autistic, I see no benefit from blueballing yourself. My friend is a sperg and he stopped fapping and uses his horny motivation to lift and it has worked out extremely well for him. I know he isn't lying because I've known him for so long and he doesn't joke around so easily, maybe you too can try his methods. I personally fap every few days or weeks, making it a reward for myself after long days of work
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>>63916857
How many women have you slept with? Didn't masturbate until 18 just makes me think that you're just low t, not gay.
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>>63914336
My longest streak was maybe 120 days, I'm currently on 21 days.

I don't know what the long term optimal strategy is here, but this is what I know:

-If you're jerking off everyday, you are killing yourself. When you go on nofap you will very noticeably have more energy, confidence, wit, and intelligence.

-If you're actively trying to fuck girls at the same time you're on nofap, it will be hell. You will constantly be thinking about sex, it will absolutely torment you. Every hour of every day you will be haunted by the urge to fuck. You could very easily end up fucking some absolutely abhorrent women because your horniness will blind you, all you will desire is for that damned demon to cease his persistent torture, and return from the depths of harlot's hell from which he came. This precisely happened to me. I am still ridiculed to this day for that nut. I came in 12 seconds, then I almost threw up from kissing her. I could taste the indian food from her last meal. I ran away that instant like a bandit, disappeared into night in solitude and shame. I never spoke with that poor girl again. God bless her, for she certainly has missed out on his other blessings.

-If you are to be without women for an extended period of time, nofap is an absolute necessity and will make you stronger, wiser, more accomplished, and more prepared for your circumstances to change. For example, when corona started all my leads immediately died and I went on nofap for 100+ days. That was the most productive period of my life. Right now, I am living at home until I graduate, trying to get my shit together, nofap is a good choice for me. But, you must be resigned for that period to have no interest whatsoever in women, for once you allow the possibility to enter your mind, all is lost. You must be as a castaway on an island, your sole focus to build that raft to extricate you from hard circumstances and into the promised land of happiness, civilization, and social acceptance.
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>>63914336
Yes. I did pretty much 90 days on the dot.

It rewires your dopamine circuit to enjoy smaller things in life like socializing or really anything. Cooking a good meal. Working harder, paying attention in college, whatever. Your mind works better and you become more self confident. It can fix depression and anxiety.

The damaging aspect of it is modern porn itself which rides your seek and find reward circuit.

Some people get limp dick for awhile and I did too. That's because your dopamine circuit is unhinging from porn and rebooting. It's a normal thing that happens during nofap and can take weeks to months. If you're worried about it then just jerk off once per week using your imagination. It's porn itself which is fucking with your dopamine circuit. The amount of novelty providing organisms is very bad for your brain chemistry. It just makes you a more lethargic, closeted, anxious, depressed, unmotivated and anti social person. That's the side effect of overstimulation on dopamine. Minimizing or quitting porn entirely will do wonders for you.

I don't do nofap anymore, bit I don't fap nearly as much as I used to. I hit around 90 day mark and fucked some girl I met on the same day I met her. Then was like fuck this I miss porn. But my time off porn was when I functioned better than ever
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>>63914336
Do it for a week, 90+ days, or not at all. I only noticed significant changes after 7 days and 90 days. I was definitely still addicted to porn around 50 days, but by the time I was close to 90, I wasn't even thinking about my streak. Now I'm 100+ days (honestly just stopped keeping track) and I feel like a new man. I feel nothing when I think about porn. I feel nothing when I see porn on accident while browsing the catalog. If I wanted to fap, I could comfortably do so without seeking out porn. But I don't really have an urge to fap anymore.
Beyond curing my porn addiction, nofap proved how strong my willpower really is. I mean think about it: if you can avoid stroking your dick for THREE MONTHS when it is within stroking distance 100% of your waking hours AND there is no direct benefit from abstaining, what CAN'T you do? Since starting nofap, I am
>eating healthier, cooking more
>drinking less
>working out more
>sleeping better
>wake up more easily
>have more energy during the day esp. at work
>more mental clarity (imagine post-nut clarity but 24/7)
Is that all because of nofap? No, it's mostly because of eating healthier and working out more. But it all started with kicking the porn addiction. It all started with cutting a habit out of my life that had zero benefit beyond a quick dopamine hit. You know what else fits this criteria? Sugar. Booze. Weed. Nicotine. YouTube. Nofap forced me to take a step back and reevaluate what the fuck I'm doing. Is this helping me? Do I really need this? Will I feel better in the long run without this? Mind you I'm still working on some of these, mainly the weed and Internet usage. You still have to want to change, it doesn't just happen magically if you don't touch your dick for a while.

Oh yeah, still no gf. But that was never my goal. I'm not doing this to get laid, or because I hate myself. I'm doing this because I can.
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>>63917284
I appreciate you writing this. Good luck.
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i went almost 120 days or so

you are far better off not thinking about it if that makes any sense. instead of saying OK I AM NOT GOING TO FAP ANYMORE and then relapsing like crazy when you fap again, go for a lifestyle change. fap less. aim for 1x a week but replace the habit of jerking off with something else so that you dont feel suicidal when you break your "streak".
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>>63914336
I did NoFap for 150+ days. I am a severely-addicted cumbrained degenerate. I failed and have since been unable to go more than two weeks.

Benefits: no latent shame from porn use, don’t feel weird about people letting you use your phone or PC, people seem to respect you more but maybe this is just my brain. I hate myself whenever I masturbate. It disgusts me but I can’t stop. I’m thinking of just destroying my phone and computer and living in the woods in a tent and just bring like 50 books and only come out when I’ve read all of them.
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>>63916372
Yeah this. In my 150+ day streak, I got a gf, I whitened my teeth (actually whitened them with strips, takes 2-4 weeks of daily effort), my skin cleaned up great, lost 10 pounds, got better sleep. I think cooming is fine but fapping makes you feel pathetic so you act pathetic.
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>>63916835
My fetishes are so fucked up and so specific now that I honestly don’t think I will ever be free of them. Like, even on my 150 day streak, the first thing I broke my streak to what one of my fetishes.
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>>63917284
Good post
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>>63917409
Good luck to you, friend.

May we all dine yet in the halls of Valhalla, and uncover the great mysteries of this world.
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>>63916426
absolutely blessed
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The low T in here is strong. It's ok to jerk off just dont over do it and lay off the porn.
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>>63916891
I also recommend listening to the audio book Smart Phone Dumb Phone on kindle app to wean yourself off 4chan addiction.

The biggest benefit to "nofap" is the empowerment to spend your time how you want to, and not let small cravings lead you around by the nose.

It has nothing to do with touching your dick being inherently bad, but not letting your life get out of control.

However, nofap helps my dick get hard with a woman in bed. It's nice not to worry about my dick. I'm a bit low T. You'd think noporn would be sufficient but it's the same part of the brain that's getting the abuse.
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>>63917694
I've got better things to do with my time than fuck my hand.
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>>63914336
>What benefits have you noticed if any?
time to improve yourself
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>>63914336
meh, I did it one summer out of circumstance and I honestly didn't notice too much of a difference. I've found the best strategy is just limit it to a few times a month. I feel benefits after a few days but then eventually the horniness will start interfering with work/school and I'll rub one out to something tame. Basically, everything in moderation.
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bros im on day ~300 (started last december as my new years resolution) and my libido is practically gone when it comes to sexual stuff on the internet. i think im pretty much immune to porn or all the other coomer shit people post on here and i was wondering if thats normal or if my libido is just gone, i do still get frequent boners throughout the day but they're mostly from real life experience and such, when it comes to blatant suggestive things online i dont feel anything anymore. is this normal?
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>>63917978
It's normal. Your dopamine circuit disconnects from porn. Some people experience months of limp dick unable to get hard at all which is part of getting the dopamine reboot. The younger you started on porn and the worse your addiction to it, the longer this phase takes.
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retards, the benefits come from stopping watching porn everyday, literally the biggest form brainwashing that exist today. cum to your imagination and you'll see how different it is: you don't feel like a pathetic loser afterwards, like with porn
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>>63917482
Is this a guy or girl? Still would fuck buy I need to know what im working with
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>>63914336
You become like Superman. You gain confidence, strength, testosterone and the girls pee on themselves when you pass them by.
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>>63918057
but when I do this, I coom to worse things that I could ever find online
pls halp
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>>63917284
based nofapbros wagmi
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>>63918328
this is why nofap goes hand in hand with noporn.
you need a good solid break from fapping altogether to recalibrate your brain if all you coom to is degenerate porn. when you continue cooming to porn, even porn that you create in your head, you only feel worse about "missing out" on actually watching porn. What you should really be worried about is missing out on the world of possibilites that exist outside of porn.
I didn't "give up" porn. I escaped it.
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>>63918057
This. Jerking it a couple times a week actually helps you be productive because you’re not distracted by how horny you are. Porn is what really causes a lot of problems
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>>63918181
Obviously a boy faggot.
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>>63914336
Have sex
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>>63914336
In high school I went 2 months or so without fapping, and I did get to a point where I didnt have many sexual urges. That is, until the full moon hit and a fucking jizz demon roared to life inside of me with an insane and unreal thirst and I HAD TO JACK IT.
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>>63914336
Benefits? Does being frustrated all the time counts? If not then fuck all
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>>63916372
>Gained 20 pounds of muscle
>months
What's your stack?
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Nofap/semen retention is godtier and greatly improves the quality of your life.
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>>63914336
I got 4 months back in 2018. I felt genuinely content with life. Every morning I'd wake up and spring out of bed ready for a new day. Got promoted at work. Socializing was nice, people were a lot more receptive toward me and I was more confident and willing to push myself out of my comfort zone.
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>>63914336
I've unintentionally done it over a period of 4 months when I was visiting my partner's family and didn't have enough private time/motivation to fap in secret.
All I felt was increasing horny to the point where I started being interested in my sisters-in-law. So for me it was pretty uncomfy but I've never felt like a fap/porn addict like the people who fall for nofap do so I don't think I'm the intended audience anyway. I'm pretty comfy with my once or twice a week as needed fap routine.
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it's all in your head. I realized the brain fog fucking me up was caffeine
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I felt more focused and energetic
now I am a coombrain
fucked my gf this morning and still jerked off a few hours later
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Totally worth it. I don’t feel guilty or dirty around my female friends. It’s honestly a huge confidence boost. I just feel like a human being worthy of others love and attention now.
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>>63919983
>fucked my gf this morning and still jerked off a few hours later
and here i fucking thought a gf would fix this
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>>63917482
The videos of him fapping and eating his cum are kino
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>>63920211
wtf
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Did it for a little over 90 days
>deeper voice
>fuller complexion
>higher mental capacity
>faster gains (have stretch marks on bicep from gaining so fast)
>less implusive behavior
>enjoy arousal without the desire to coom
>more outgoing behavior
>bigger and harder erections
Tha list goes on...
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>>63914336
I got symptoms of prostate cancer.
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>>63914336
Fuck

Yes its worth it, I also relapsed
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>>63917284
You talk like a faggot. Good post though
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NoFap is ostensibly a method to improve your sex life, but Nofappers get no pussy. Curious.
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>>63914336
yes thanks to nofap I can no longer get an erection and am unburdened by physical desires

my wizardry knows no bounds now
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After 2 months it felt like I couldn't get an erection anymore.
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>>63920731
It's to improve brain health retard
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>>63916426
Shut the fuck up Connor
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>>63914336
This is how it was for me
>stop doing a bad thing (excesive mastutbation)
>felt more confident because i had will power and knew i didnt play with myself
>dick started working properly because when i would fuck my wife i didnt have the lingering thought of knowing i just jerked off to degenerate porn couple hours ago
>every sight of a womans ass, picture on /fit/ or seeing anything sexual would result in an extreme urge to rape something
>would cum faster because im not jerking off constantly and numbing my dick
>would cum buckets
>blowjobs never felt better
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>>63914336
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201307/your-brain-porn-its-not-addictive

Porn and masturbation addiction isn't real, it's a natural biological urge and there is nothing wrong about wanting sex or love. Most people that get really into nofap are permavirgins like >>63920731 points out. Nofap relies on sexually shaming lonely and depressed men to get them to hate themselves. I lived like one of them for years and the repression and shame ruined my ability to try and date women, I was a christcuck zealot as a teenager and I used to look down on girls I could have had a chance with. A decade later they are married with kids and I'm bitter and alone. Normies don't ever have to think making some plan not to touch their dick to be confident and date, it just happens. People who are depressed, have social problems, are isolated and alone, have few or no outlets to enjoy their desires. They are cut off from one of the most basic human drives and are left to suffer. Nofap just uses pseudoscience to subject lonely men to abuse.

There is also a huge crossover between nofap and the alt right, christian extremists, and other groups that rely on sexually shaming men to control them. All authoritarians need their followers to hate themselves to some degree so they demand their own enslavement. I've been obsessed with these movements for years, and it's been destroying my life. I'm trying to break out of it now, following this shit is much more "addictive " then porn ever could be.

Nofap is something adult men should try for a bit, just to make sure they are not living with severe depression and relying on distraction techniques to get by.
All the dopamine overload and fried brain talk is bullshit. There is a reason that the DSM5 doesn't recognize these behavioral and internet addictions as real. People who complain of porn addiction just have a disconnect between their desires and behavior and their beliefs.
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>>63921303
More like the 24 year old self castrater who has willingly given up every bit of unique spirit he had and completely surrendered to the system.
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>>63921089
>dick started working properly because when i would fuck my wife i didnt have the lingering thought of knowing i just jerked off to degenerate porn couple hours ago

The lingering thoughts are a result of internalized sexual shame. People who don't have this internalized shame don't experience this. Internalized shame and feeling like you have no control and porn is digital heroin is why people keep up this talk of relapsing. If you reject the porn addiction lies and just do it to see if you can It's much easier.
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>>63917284
>If you are to be without women for an extended period of time, nofap is an absolute necessity and will make you stronger, wiser, more accomplished, and more prepared for your circumstances to change.
>you must be resigned for that period to have no interest whatsoever in women, for once you allow the possibility to enter your mind, all is lost.
Great to hear nofap has improved your life but this part of your post is a load of bollocks. If you're not interested in women nofap WILL change that for most people. It's precisely why I don't do massive nofap streaks, having libido bothers me somewhat because I couldn't care less about fucking random skanks yet nofap makes me think about throwing that preference away.
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>>63920588
not necessarily, just coom'd to porn again
even though I fucked her this morning and twice yesterday
also I am 32 and "low T"
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Last year did 150+ days. Maintained a high sex drive, fucking popped off at work and forced myself to talk to girls once a day so improved confidence. YOU HAVE TO FUCKING WORK HARD FOR ANY BENIFITS NOTHING COMES FREE REMEMBER THAT
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>>63914336
I’m trying to quit porn forever and in the month+ streaks I feel mental clarity and confidence. Genuinely convinced that shit rots your brain. Dunno about nofap but what have you got to lose by trying it for a couple weeks.
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>>63914336
Day 25 checking in.
Prayer + fasting is the way to go. Also, a keto diet seems to be helping me. Something to do with not having sugar highs and lows I think.
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You also have to be careful when it comes to wet dreams. Expect 1-3 days of chaser effect following a wet dream, but if you stand strong during this period, the temptation will go away again.
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>>63921374
Wrong.

Does a castaway on an island get horny? Does a prisoner of war ever need to go on nofap? No, because we have an evolved state for survival over reproduction.

An extended nofap streak is meant to return you to this state. You convince the body that sex is not an option. Then you get all of the nofap benefits and become completely detached from sexuality, letting you focus on yourself until the circumstances are improved.

The budddhist monks have been celibate for thousands of years. You really think they’re horny as fuck this whole time? You think anyone could withstand that torment?

If you have increased libido on nofap it’s because you allow the possibility of sex to flood your mind and torment you, rather than declare to a body willing and obedient from discipline that it is an impossibility.
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>>63920731
Nofap is a temporary mode for men who don’t get pussy to better work on themselves until they’re able.
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>>63914336
Bros. Will my dick regain sensitivity and my skin stop sagging? That’s all I need to know, i’m fucking stressing out here. I got now fucking feeling in the thing!
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>>63921340
>links main stream psychology site
Don’t forget to eat your whole grain breakfast cereal and watch your prescribed Tik Tok programming. You should explore and experiment with your sexuality too. You can volunteer the time you have free from 9to5 slavery at the homeless shelter, and donate what little money you have left over to Africans that may not even exist. And don’t forget to smile at a stranger and post on Reddit you’ve found the meaning of life!
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>>63914336
i have done it thrice:
>penis turned into to adamantium. had actually problems to get hard before
>each time got a girlfriend
>planning on marrying this one since she is a trad christian virgin
currently on day 110ish and planning to let my wife break it after marriage
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>>63921089
can confirm all this except the stretch marks lmao
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>>63920731
It’s to break masturbation and porn addiction and nothing else. You ease yourself back into jerking off after you hit 90 days, this time making sure you don’t get addicted.
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>>63914336
The big horny.
Whether I abstained intentionally for months or just didn't have to time to fap, the biggest part was insane horniness.
Made me consider fucking a twink at some point
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>>63917619
same, bro. im like 3 weeks without porn now and tomorrow im seeing a hooker. its gonna be a wet time
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My balls start hurting after day 14, my dick gets rock solid and bigger to the point it hurts and eventually cum during sleep, be it a wet dream or not. So, not worth it. I just embrace it and there's no shame in masturbating. Once you do so, it feels better and there's no remorse afterwards. I usually wank 3 times per week, which is the days I'm off from work.
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>>63922410
>>63922476
fuck off kikes
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>>63922427
This, the big horny is just ridiculous. A week with no fap or sex and every hairless manlet looks like a snack
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>>63922427
yea this, there's no way i can do nofap for more than a week. im all for noporn though. i'll do nofap if im gonna approach women.
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>doing it to recover from deathgrip and to get some shit done this month
>three days sleep like shit constantly being horny
>sweaty nights
>fourth night wet dream

I think my last wet dream was like 15 years ago
dream was nasty and involved cumming and then pissing into a pussy of a fat slampig
woke up and feel something wet next to me
giant slurp of cum on my sheet

but I slept really god afterwards and the horny brainfog I had yesterday is gone

if anything, this whole experience is at least interesting
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>>63922507
>I'm a kike because I wank and don't force others to do so
What's next? Glowie? Nigger? Chink?
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My streak was 27 days, cleaned my fucking room just because of a manga (Molester Man). Felt really good, pumped but I did it because I thought god was punishing me by making my dick dry and chafed.
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>>63916835
I do have things that I like. For example, tomboys, bike shorts, spreading pussy, pussy juice. Quite simple.
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>>63922507
>describe real experience in an unbiased manner from a position of genuinely wanting to improve the life of himself and others
>"hurr durr jewish propaganda"
You're a literal NPC
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>>63917482
Where's the video of him doing that. My last fap will be that.
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>>63920698
no you didnt you liar
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>>63922309
>Does a castaway on an island get horny? Does a prisoner of war ever need to go on nofap? No, because we have an evolved state for survival over reproduction.
Do you have a source for me to read more about these instincts you mention? It doesn't make sense to me that humans can enter a state where reproductive instincts are not even existent. I would understand suppressing one's reproductive instincts, but the idea that reproductive instincts could disappear altogether is kind of baffling to me.
Surely castaways and prisoners of war don't feel reproductive instincts because they don't have the energy given from basic subsistence level consumption covered. Meanwhile, picture a busy individual in the 21st century - for such people, subsistence level consumption is a given, so survival is a given. If survival is a given then surely it makes sense to have reproductive instincts?

As productive individuals in the 21st century we're all going to survive in the sense that we aren't castaways or prisoners of war at this time. We're all going to survive, so surely it's natural to have an instinct to reproduce.

>The budddhist monks have been celibate for thousands of years. You really think they’re horny as fuck this whole time? You think anyone could withstand that torment?
Yes, I thought that building resistance to such mountainous torment was entire reason they practise abstinence?
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I'm doing semen retention for 5 months now, i found out that you can still have some kind of sexual activity to blow off steam without ejaculation
for example i just got fucked in the ass
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>>63922737
Sorry anon, I can't remember his name. But if you do find his name, just google him. He's on pornhub
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>>63922389
>All mainstream medicine and science is the Jews trying to trick me.
>I've taken modern medicine at some point though.
>The your brain on porn people also link to a bunch of research on internet and video game addiction to support their theory of dopamine addiction. >That part I can just ignore though since it's not related to Christcuck sex shaming.
>Nofap material is freely disseminated on YouTube and gets millions of views, but there is still a conspiracy to suppress the truth.
>The alcohol industry doesn't have the money and power to end all research critical of it, but somehow the porn industry does.

Internet cults rely on getting people to never trust outside information while keeping people angry and paranoid. The dopamine addiction theory would tell you spending time on 4chan is also an addiction, but anons still spend their free time here.

>>63922427
I'm into the fourth month now and this is part of the point of nofap. The confidence man grifters on YouTube promise guys that they too can get hot women if they just don't touch their dick long enough. This makes guys horny so they get bolder in approaching women and sometimes they get lucky. Incel zealots start hating themselves even more for having desire, so they get even crazier. I fell into this trap of self loathing for years, don't do it. Your life is better off without it.

>>63922507
Everything is trannies or Jews, they are clearly out to get you. You're that important that people with lives come here to try to trick you. You're life as a paranoid outsider would still have meaning if you didn't think the world was out to get you.

>>63922703
Just NPCs repeating their lines. Brainwashing is a real bitch. When someone's life sucks they get pain from three sources: their shit life, the guilt, and the shame. You can get rid of the guilt and the shame if you adopt a victim mentality. It's hard to snap people out of this since no one wants to blame themselves.
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>>63914336
The first flatline is the most important. Its usually around week 3. Everything past that is pointless
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>>63923189
>The dopamine addiction theory would tell you spending time on 4chan is also an addiction, but anons still spend their free time here.
Not him but it is an addiction for the vast majority of people here including myself and I fucking wish I could leave for good. I agree with the rest of your post though.
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>>63916372
>what is being a coomer STOPPING you from doing?
Not a whole lot, thank your for asking.
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>>63922333
NoFap is a cope because they don't want to address the actual reasons they don't get laid - looks, physique, effort, social skills. Penis touching is far down the list.
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>>63923230
Internet addiction is just the modern moral panic. If you are depressed, have low life satisfaction, or a bunch of free time you spend a lot of time on video games or the internet. Lonely people rely on 4chan for socialization and validation. Many of us need this place emotionally. Much more so for /pol/ schizos, since they often bemoan the fact that they cannot discuss their views with close friends or family or have already destroyed some relationships by sperging out. True cults want followers isolated from all but other cultists and prey on their personal insecurities.

I've been thinking a lot lately about how the libertarian spirit of old /b/ was killed and replaced with neetsoc larping. Stormfront, no doubt filled with feds or their informants, started to infiltrate and offer the victim card to lonely men. The alt right that sprang out of 4chan when the backlash to woke happened during gamergate started with nerds that loved their hobbies and anime girls and wanted to be left alone. It got co-opted and now is trying to be the concerned Christian moms from the 1990s that people hated for being moral busy bodies. They were so ineffective and off putting while making for god lolcows, after trying to ban Harry Potter and violent video games they flamed out. Old 4chan used to hate people like that, and now it's full of them. I think that the alt right has been controlled opposition from the start, allowed to get just far enough to justify digital censorship and provide validation for the woke by giving them and oppressor to rage against so their existence feels justified. There is just enough of a boogey man to justify state management of the internet, and the guys hopping on the porn ban crusade are just another pawn working to create universal digital ID for the internet.
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>>63922845
There is actually rituals from Daoist monks that involved them pretty much jelqing or gooning
They’d stroke their penis every day 50 times with their right hand on the right side of the penis, and 50 times with their left hand on the left side of the penis
On top of all the sexual practices and techniques written by monks and wisemen, I don’t think they were as celibate as we think
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>>63917284

>Does nofap just to be a virgin loner scared of girls

This sound pointless. Why do no fap just to be a lonely faggot that stays in your room?

>You must be as a castaway on an island

This is literally the opposite of how you should do nofap.

Do NoFap and take advantage of the extra energy to network, build connections, meet people, and have a more fulfilling socially life so that you wont be consumed with thinking about porn.

Your "im going to be a loner until ___ date" is not going to work out. You will just waste years as your social skills and physical beauty erode, and you will be even more of a weirdo unable to connect to people due to your choice to willingly isolate because you're not willing to channel your libido.
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>>63924131
you dont need this place emotionally

you sound like a palefaced loser or an obvious chink with no life outside of the computer
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>>63923859
Normies never have to think about not touching their penis to summon a trad gf. For them, social success and romantic success just happens. All the people I used to look down upon as a teenage Christian zealot beat me in life. They are more well adjusted and most of them have families now. Guys who shared tips about how to look at porn on dorm wifi without getting caught are now husbands and fathers. Most of the nofap guys are virgins, they are the last people you want to take this kind of advice from. They stay in their cult of self hate to justify their unfulfilled lives. If they couldn't be victims they would have to face the shame and guilt for their shortcomings.

>>63923299
It's no different from doing something else unproductive in your down time, at least it was for me. Sexual shame obsession made my life worse, not better.
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>>63922410
For the purpose of having a healthier, more fulfilling sex life. 10 years ago, you weren't pitching it as an end unto itself. Probably because the only people with a masturbation problem are ones in relationships, everyone else has a lack-of-pussy problem, and NoFap didn't actually help with that - so you weirdos shifted the goalposts of your pitch.
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>>63924194
>All the people I used to look down upon as a teenage Christian zealot beat me in life
Obviously, Christianity as a social institution completely imploded and the bombed out remains offer basically no help for navigating sex, relationships, and marriage for young men. In fact, what it does offer is often actively detrimental.
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I do nofap off and on. Relapsed today. I usually relapse when I am "wired and tired". I teach English to Chinese university students in China. I'm an introvert and have to teach to crowds of 60-70 who barely understand me. It's exhausting.

I think my brain fixates on the pleasure of orgasm and women's bodies when I'm that exhausted and sleep deprived. It's really relaxing.

Overall I will say nofap makes me a lot more confident in general.
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>>63924287
How are you not getting pussy as a white guy in Asia?
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>>63914336
Longest I've made it was 30 days on last year No Nut November. Felt great but sadly fell down the hole again and been busting nuts the entire year on and off. Now I'm on day 6.
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I did it back in 2018, and got my first girlfriend in that period. Now of course I can't be sure it was due to the increased libido, but it sure was nice until she broke my heart
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I can cum to everything. My imagination, porn, Leanbeefpatty, just watching myself in the mirror. I can completely give up porn now and I would masturbate just as much. But I MUST COOM.
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>>63924178
I'm just another average autist wagie. I've gotten used to coming here and miss the old days of shitposting.

>>63924133
This is accurate. A lot of medieval monks in Europe wrote gay love letters and poetry to each other too. https://thithuthuytran.blogspot.com/2016/01/love-letters.html

>>63924150
My old attitudes about sex ruined my ability to socialize with women in anything but a platonic fashion. Cutting yourself off from the part of you that has desire just makes you more of an outsider. Ancient Greek soldiers and athletes would abstain from ejaculation before a battle because it made them more angry. There is no great battle ever going to come. A lot of people base their lives as angry outsiders around the delusion that they are the vanguard of some coming uprising where they can indulge their bloodlust. It's never going to happen. Some of the big alt right influencers are starting to admit this, since January 6th a lot of these types have gotten super blackpilled and/or angry. The far left and far right desperately need each other and live for the power fantasy of killing their enemies, in reality they will just keep seething online. The only damage they will do is to each other via infighting or to new members who get caught up in the lies.
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>>63922587
>>63922703
>>63923189
>t. jew
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>>63924299
his boss told him not to fuck any of those girls and as the fap cuck he is, he obeys.

why are fappers so dull and docile?
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>>63924390
Well, Jews run the world, so they must be correct about quite a few things
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>>63924402
Why do Nofappers project their humiliation fetishes onto everyone?

Take the thong out yo bussy, player.
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>>63914336
Autists always put the cart before the horse. I don't think you can move forward in life if you spend hours a day jerking it to porn, but that doesn't equate to abstinence suddenly giving you the wind in your sails to live a meaningful existence
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>>63914336
>Day 1-7
Irritability while brain rewires from addiction
>Day 8-14
Better mood, extremely horny, more energy. Morning wood like I am 15 again
>Day 15-30
Less horny generally, but still feeling effects of increased discipline
>Days 30-120
Flatline with random bouts of extreme horniness. Discipline/motivation are constant
>After 120
Around this stage, I felt like my body readjusted to no longer being a coomer. My bouts of horniness felt more natural rather than random urges for addiction/withdrawal.The discipline and motivation from no longer cooming and from breaking an addiction have remaining constant.
>Around 180-240
Got a girlfriend and realized my death grip issues had been completely cured. I also felt more free and confident than I ever had in bed with a woman.

I don't jerk off anymore, I only coom with a woman. I am not "doing" nofap, I just do not masturbate.
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>>63924235
That's exactly what is happening now. Nearly 30% of men ages 18-30 are virgins. A lot of the social problems that have sprung up since the internet are just what no pussy does to a motherfucker. Abrahamic faiths rely on sex shame to control their followers, but also use the promise of sex to keep people in line. The church used to be able deliver on this promise to young men, now it can't. Women are liberated and benefit from state handouts and legal privilege in family court. They don't rely on men for support as much and can take them to the cleaners at any time. Churches impose no real consequences on women for hypergamous premarital sex since women hold the pussy pass, they could just walk away and the promise of sex for obedience would vanish.

The Christian conservative position is chained to a bloated corpse, it's part of why the "nones" or people who identify with no religion are the fastest growing segment in America. Young people walk away from faith, most who stay are lukewarm about it at best. Men dreaming of a virgin bride are unlikely to find it, I promised myself I would settle for nothing less for years and I'm alone as a consequence.
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>>63924390
Imagine hating Kikes while worshipping their lie. Jesus was invented by Paul as controlled opposition to Judaize the antisemitism of the gentiles. Before the Jesus hoax, pagans correctly saw Jews as hostile to all outsiders, while tolerating different peoples and faiths that didn't have the same outgroup aggression. There is just enough of a specter of antisemitism to keep average Jews in line, can't have them getting a better deal in life because they assimilate with the gentile society that is actually tolerant of them. I've worked with enough modern Jews to know they are just regular people, just more normies, they annoying liberals are the same CNN devotees as everyone else.

>>63924415
They obsess over and desire what they are afraid of.

It's why leftists are into non-con play and hypnosis because in the post me-too era their biggest taboo is consent. Lurk around /pol/ and you'll see a fair bit of right wingers have a shameful interest in traps/shemales/futa because they fear faggotry more then anything. Actual faggots talk less about gay sex then them. The Khazar milkers meme comes from /pol/ for a reason too, they are obsessed with Jews and the idea of Jewish womb equaling Jewish baby destroying their Aryan seed excites them. Israel has a long history of combatting an interest in Nazi porn, there are many old adult films from Israel where an all Jewish cast does scenes with hot women in Nazi fetish outfits dominating Jewish prisoners. Since the holocaust and Nazis are key to the modern Jewish identity and what they fear most so they have a suppressed desire to be sexually dominated by Nazis. Buck Breaking is the same thing, obsession with white slave owners creates a sexual obsession with them. A lot of MGTOW or guys who dislike women or feminism are into femdom. Lonely autists who fear love and intimacy are fixated on gentle comfort from their waifus. Shame, fear, and desire and linked together.
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>>63924498
>Abrahamic faiths rely on sex shame to control their followers
>muh Abrahamic faiths
Wait till you see what Buddhism has to say about women lmao
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>>63924299
I stuck myself in a LTR with a gf who rarely puts out. She's a single mom with a low libido. Night and day difference from when we started dating. She's also put on weight. We recently broke up, I had better stick to my guns and not go back to her for the Nth time.

There are plenty of girls in China who like to compliment white guys and say you're handsome, etc, can we take a photo?
But it's mostly the exotic thing. A lot of them are traditional and want a serious LTR and eventually marriage and many of their parents who forbid it with a foreigner.

But there are massage girls and Twitter hookers I could probably hit up...
And I could always take a trip to Thailand, COVID permitting...
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>>63925256
>single mom
Oh, so you're a cuck. Say no more.
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>>63916448
celibacy isn't chastity, retard.
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>>63925172
Yeah, it's pretty based. Calls them emotional children who cannot ascend. Losing the patriarchy along with the welfare state is why women have gone nuts and things are shit now.
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>>63921340
>A recent study supports growing evidence that compulsive sexuality can indeed be addictive. In 2007, a VBM study out of Germany looked specifically at pedophilia, and demonstrated almost identical finding to the cocaine, methamphetamine, and obesity studies.[25] It concludes for the first time that a sexual compulsion can cause physical, anatomic change in the brain, the hallmark of brain addiction.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3050060/
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>>63925808
This 2007 study was done long before the DSM5 was finalized in 2013, and these behavioral addictions still did not make the cut. I've read some research before that pedos have different brains from normal people from the start, basically they are personality disordered can't can't be cured. No cure is the opposite of what porn reboot promises and claims. The similarity to obesity is also a problem, since food addiction is not recognized either. To try to claim that food is like the digital crack porn is claimed to be makes all of us food addicts, since nofap is adamant that any porn is destructive. It's hard to claim any erotic stimuli is massively brain damaging when you're trying to link it to food addiction. These brain scan studies have trouble showing causation since you can't show someone porn or CP from a young age in one group while enforcing nofap strictly on another.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28287845/

This study from 2018 on relationship problems and porn use show that perception of a porn addiction problem was most closely related to belief in having a porn addiction problem. It's belief in porn addiction, not level of porn use itself, that causes the distress. Couples with a permissive porn use attitude, or those who watch it together, don't report problems. Those who view it as addictive report the distress, and they are more likely to be more religious. This supports the idea that it's attitude and belief that predicts distress and dysfunction, not porn use itself. You wouldn't expect to see only belief that crack is a problem actually cause a problem, crack is addictive on it's own and your beliefs about it don't matter.

For the food addiction thing, I used to have a serious problem with weight. I changed my diet, dropped portion size, and went to the gym. Dropped over a hundred pounds that way. Went on nofap this spring, minimal problems or distress, none of this shit the true believers experience.
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>>63924348
blood meridian is one of the best books ever written
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>>63914336
Actually i did it for around 90 days. You feel much more focused and sharp, also more manly and confident specially around women
The thing i find though is that for you to really notice these changes you need to relapse so that you can really tell the difference
The one negative i got from it is that when i eventually did relapsed i had a severe case of premature ejaculation and that's just masturbating i imagine it would have been even worse with an actual woman
My advice is that if you have a girlfriend/wife you should indeed quit porn and masturbation entirely and just have ser with her, if you're an incel then you should be doing occasional nofap months or weeks but not quit masturbation entirely because if you do end up getting a girlfriend you're gonna come in seconds and not just the first time, the PE effects of no-fap last a couple of weeks
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>>63917978
That's pretty much my goal, congrats bro
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>>63914336
Yes it is worth doing I no longer have unneeded horniness any more. I been doing it over a year and 2 months. It feels great to finally feel free from slavery of lust and vice that masturbation and pornography entails. Keep in mind people overplay the benefits of nofap and It won't magically fix your life though it will help it. Also another thing you literally don't need to masturbate at all as your body has nocturnal emissions.
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>>63924471
Absolutely based
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>>63919200
And I think celltower radiation is part of it too.
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Try it for a couple weeks and find out, you're not going to die. the benefits are so blatantly obvious after about a week and you'll learn to hate the mental state you're going back to when you fuck it up. this is a very powerful tool to learn and unlearn other habits and form a foundation of discipline if there is none, but saying you went x days without jacking off should not be the primary focus of this. this should be used as a wakeup call, a sort of slap in the face to get your shit back together. if you had it together none of this would even be in your mind right now. you wouldnt be in this thread on this website.

the deciding factor is whether or not it turns you into a silverback gorilla that nobody wants to be in a room with after the first week, which it will if you've got remotely normal libido and T levels. if you're a totally unintimidating prey item of a male it might be the kick in the butt you need to actually look like a man for the first time in your life, but as a 6'3" very built dude with a very angry looking slavic face as my default, totally limp facial expression, i can't really afford to also be a sex crazed gorilla, social interraction is already an exercise in me trying a de-escalate someone who is automatically on the defensive
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>>63924131
Genius insight. I screenshotted this.
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>>63927791
Stop samefagging
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>>63927836
If I wrote the original comment, there would be a (you) in the number I responded to.
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>>63927891
Everyones actions are justified in their own eyes. This post reminds me of women who claim 'Men want to take away our right!' when in reality they just want to stop abortions lol
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>>63927953
Explain.
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>>63927994
No I really don't feel like starting an arguments about this lmao let's just say you've won
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>>63924131
Excellent analysis. I've been here since 2007 and I remember what it was like before Stormfront started pushing their propaganda on us. The only thing we cared about was getting our lulz. We were outcasts, perverts, trolls, laughing at everything and everyone, and we hated moralfags. So far as you didn't hurt cats, it was fine by us. Basically, we were degenerates by /pol/'s standards. I miss that 4chan.
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I just cut off completely for a month, now I just despise porn and stay with my /hgg2d/bros. Fuck /weg/ and their dangerous job.
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>>63928983
>despise porn
3D porn, real porn, idk what should I call it. If I ever watch real porn is some amateur one. I've just seen enough in my life, and I'm a few days early for my 20th birthday. Ngl, felt good edging for 2 days straight though, but I don't want to go back. It just killed my dick. I haven't wake up with a boner for at least 1 year.
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>>63928488
>we
>us
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>>63921303
Omg he’s literally me
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>>63914336
I did nofap/SR for 375 days. It's all a meme. Libido came in waves every few weeks. I guess if you do it for a couple months it will cure any ED you have.
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The only thing I miss about not fapping for extended periods of time is those ultra-lifelike wet dreams where I'm having sex with a '90s celebrity or high school crush where I wake up with my pants covered in jizz.
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how do i stop my morning wood from hurting so fucking much?
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>>63914336
Did it for half a year during quarantine. It seems to have made me permanently less horny and I now coom once a week tops. Benefits? Uhhh none
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>>63916861
>>63917704
>>63922395
I believe you bros, i'm gmi

>>63917380
>when it is within stroking distance
kek

>>63920698
>>63921340
post nose
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>>63920731
>NoFap is ostensibly a method to improve your sex life, but Nofappers get no pussy. Curious.
>>63923859
>NoFap is a cope because they don't want to address the actual reasons they don't get laid - looks, physique, effort, social skills. Penis touching is far down the list.

Then you have the autists who start making up endless ridiculous benefits they gain like this loser
>>63920693
or the ones who go so far as to talk about not even just masturbating but "semen retention", where releasing your semen in any way is actually a detriment to you because you want to "absorb semen's nutrients", which then is completely counterintuitive to the reason they start nofap, which is to have sex and ejaculate.
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nice to see so many people quitting this kike poison ITT
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>>63914336
I’m on like 3 or 4 months now I never keep count. Went on a few long streaks with nofap before. I believe I will continue until forever with this round and no relapsing in the future.
Now, there are no huge Superman benefits, you will feel really powerful first month or so, but that’s just cause your going from absolute zero to something. The moral and mental relief of doing it is superior I think to any of the fake superpowers people talk about. However, your desire for cooming will go down, you’re sexuality will become normal and not full of fantasies of crazy porn shit. You will be able to talk to females better, though I’m still no good at that. Also cumming in your sleep stops after a bit but will happen after month maybe a few times. I noticed that after a few long streaks in a row my perception of females improved. What turns me on in girls is more wholesome and less disgusting. I also feel like actually deserving of respect and not just a nasty little creature. I have decency back that I’ve been missing a long time.
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>>63924131
or maybe the baby boys of 4chan who liked anime tits and video games realized their lives were hollow and unsatisfying then after scouring every corner of the internet and espousing many different ideologies they realized that Christ is the ultimate rebel in our history and by rebelling against The world of the flesh and reality as a perceived phenomenon is the way to a meaningful and tolerable existence
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>>63932513
I am a virgin btw so can’t give any info on improvements in the sex department. I would assume you’d be less of a degenerate though after being on nofap. I would say I’m a virgin by choice though many would probably view that as a cope.
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>>63916446
>I was close to become a divine figure in my university
>I would had become some kind of jesus or hitler
Unironically me too.
It's really bizarre how differently people treat you when you stop jerking off or looking at porn.
Anyone who hasn't had a long nofap streak will think it's bullshit.
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>>63932552
What’s great is you can use it against coomers and faggots. Like when you argue with fags they always say some shit like “I bet you jerk off to lesbians” or call you a porn addicted fiend to bring you down to their level. Being able to say you don’t masturbate or watch porn to coomers and queers causes massive brain melt and fluid begins to leak out their ears.
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>>63925273
Yeah, my parents divorced when I was 8. My dad is on marriage #5. Maybe a part of me wanted to be a good step father to my (ex) gf's 8 year old girl. She was one of my students at an kids' English school. Then I met her mom and we got romantically involved. Her ex-husband cheated on her multiple times.

Honestly it's kind of shitty. Imagine yourself as a Chinese woman, your parents pressure you into marriage and birthing a child in your late 20s, and within a year later your husband cheats on you, your parents tell you to stay with your husband (because your dad also cheated on your mom). So now you are just another statistic: a single mom raising a child alone.

And the father doesn't give a shit about his daughter. He doesn't want anything to do with her. He sees her maybe twice a year, if that. While living in the same damn town.

So yeah, maybe a part of me felt empathy for that situation. But just pencil me down as a beta-cuck if it's easier for you.
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>>63921605
kek thanks anon
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>>63918029
Thanks anon, I am only like a week and a half in and noticed that and was wondering if that was normal.
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>>63921340
you have just posted cringe
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>>63923189
"...I fell into this trap..."
you sound like that one fag who "escaped the alt right" but was actually just a sub-midwit who listened to stefan molyneux
"muh muh muh and he called it objectivism!"
what a specimen you are
promptly kill yourself
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>>63923189
i have been to 90 day nofap on 8 occasions in my life.
what you are suggesting is simply not true.
you are a dependent thinker who defers to the aristocracy of western civilization on all aspects of your base existence.
i wish you would see just how dependent you are.
i wish you would see how much out sourcing of your identity exists.
you will not understand what i am saying to you.
this is because you are the slave.
your opinions are discarded, simply on account of the reality of me being able to receive your propaganda via the television.
there is a point in which people are too far gone.
this is the case with you.
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>>63928488
>Internet addiction is just the modern moral panic. If you are depressed, have low life satisfaction, or a bunch of free time you spend a lot of time on video games or the internet. Lonely people rely on 4chan for socialization and validation. Many of us need this place emotionally. Much more so for /pol/ schizos, since they often bemoan the fact that they cannot discuss their views with close friends or family or have already destroyed some relationships by sperging out. True cults want followers isolated from all but other cultists and prey on their personal insecurities.
>I've been thinking a lot lately about how the libertarian spirit of old /b/ was killed and replaced with neetsoc larping. Stormfront, no doubt filled with feds or their informants, started to infiltrate and offer the victim card to lonely men. The alt right that sprang out of 4chan when the backlash to woke happened during gamergate started with nerds that loved their hobbies and anime girls and wanted to be left alone. It got co-opted and now is trying to be the concerned Christian moms from the 1990s that people hated for being moral busy bodies. They were so ineffective and off putting while making for god lolcows, after trying to ban Harry Potter and violent video games they flamed out. Old 4chan used to hate people like that, and now it's full of them. I think that the alt right has been controlled opposition from the start, allowed to get just far enough to justify digital censorship and provide validation for the woke by giving them and oppressor to rage against so their existence feels justified. There is just enough of a boogey man to justify state management of the internet, and the guys hopping on the porn ban crusade are just another pawn working to create universal digital ID for the internet.
are you samefagging?
you better not be
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>>63927891
Thanks. Holly rollers are going to end up killing the only real resistance to universal digital ID under the old think of the children excuse. The 60 minutes Facebook whistleblower was pushing for digital ID to ban hate speech and misinformation. The only real pushback is going to come from Republicans who are still salty after stop the steal, Hunter Biden's laptop, and corona vax skepticism being banned. Now they will hop on board completely. Just like the nofap of 1900 panic that caused circumcision to be the norm in America, people will fall for a masturbation panic and agree to China style digital control. Only when they get arrested for sharing wrongthink will they realize they fucked up.
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Isnt nofap just a /b/ meme?
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>>63933853
why did they try to ban Harry Potter?
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>>63914336
>6 months
>I had to jerk off because my balls hurt so much I couldn't take it.

>3 months
>Got with a girl and my dick refused to work
>When we did have sex I came in 15 seconds

Overall nothing great. I've also never been addicted to porn and can masturbate to my imagination. My masturbation habits beforehand were maybe once or twice a week at most. If you aren't compulsively beating your shit into oblivion I don't see the reason to torture yourself.
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>>63928488
Spam filter won't let me post about a certain radio host /b/ trolled in 2007 who turned out to be a federal informant from the start. Kind of odd. Even redacting the name won't let me get this past the filter. Tl;DR this guy was a fed informant from the start and his followers stayed around to propagandize people, slowly changing board culture.
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>>63932522
Jesus was not a real historical figure, let alone a miracle worker. He was made up by Paul to Judaize the anti-Semitism of the goyim. Christianity is the original controlled opposition. Adam Green of Know More News interviewed Skrbina who wrote this book. He issued challenges to both Dr. E Michael Jones and Jay Dyer, to major Christian influencers who are major supporters of the porn addiction myth. Both of them originally accepted but then quietly backed out and acted like nothing happened. Both were publicly called out when Adam went on the killstream but both Jones and Dyer just ignored it. Both have been on the killstream before and would likely show up, Dr. Jones came on to debate Styx about porn before. Dr. Jones even had a friend of his who is a Catholic priest with a PHD in theology agree to debate Adam instead before he too backed out when he realized what he was dealing with. Right then and there I realized that the Jesus Hoax theory was real. All of a sudden my former beliefs didn't make sense anymore. What else had I been lied to about?

>>63933811
See above, watching men I respected bitch out from a challenge made towards the very core of their beliefs broke me out. They either know they are deceiving people, or they realized they couldn't win the debate and didn't want to risk having their world view shattered or getting humiliated in front of their audience.

>>63933853
See the (you)s in the screencap, not samefagging.
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>>63917822
like post on 4chan?
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>>63934571
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/g4eGH
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>>63934222
Checked.

For supporting black magic and Satanism in a kids book. Movement had been flaming out for a while. It peaked when they joined with Bob Dole to criticize Cambial Corpse and Marilyn Manson, both bands did shit to draw their ire to make the news and sell tickets. Concerned moms may have been used all along to promote a few bands, this happened with Alice Cooper when he first toured England in the 1970s. No one knew who he was, so his manager paid some news papers to put out articles pretending to be from concerned parents. Shep Gordon, his manager, also created a fake media panic to sell Cooper's new album in the US. He wanted the album to come with a pare of women's panties wrapped over it, and for the album to get seized at customs when coming in from Canada. First time he tried customs didn't care. So he found a pair of panties that didn't meet US regulations for flammability safety and used those instead. Still didn't get seized. So he called in some favors and got them seized the third time around so an article could be run promoting the scandal. Moral panics can easily be manipulated to sell shit or promote your own side.

When it came to Harry Potter, the first book was a sensational success. The concerned moms had been starting to grate on people by then by finding smaller things to panic about, kind of like the woke now. The Harry Potter ban failed and they flamed out. Next moral panic was the Hot Coffee sex scene scandal in GTA San Andreas. This time senator Hillary Clinton took up the flag of defending against sex and violence in games, shit that pissed off the old anons. With gamergate shit got messed with for not being woke enough so another scandal happened. Looks a lot like theater to prop one side up then let it decline and switch to the other. Right now the anti-human trafficking Christian coalition is getting some status so they can co-opt the only resistance to Digital ID online.
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>>63914336
Yep, did nofap for 3 months.

The only difference was massive huge loads when I fucked my wife and sex dreams and huge libido.
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I'd like some advice, I've been trying my luck on Dating Apps (got a couple dates within a few weeks, nothing insane). I've become so used to fapping everyday, that the combination of going a day + looking at chicks all day while swiping. I literally have to masturbate or I'll waste actual hours edging while swiping until I finally blow a load or two and get on with the rest of my day. It's not stopping me from working out, but it's pushing my sleep schedule to 3am - 8am (Luckily, eating well + modest exercise has give me much more energy in the morning, I'd be absolutely fucked otherwise).

So basically what I'm asking is: Should I keep masturbating and make it a quick ritual so I'm not wasting time and I think clearly or should I try to fight my urges while literally trying my best to get my fuck on? I'm 24 btw, just so you can get an idea of my libido.
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Stop drinking and nosurf is more effective
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>>63934607
The one paragraph post in a thread this long is no big ask.

https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a28715187/semen-retention/

Semen retention has been around for a long time. Ancient Greek soldiers did it before battle or sports because it makes men more frustrated and angry after abstaining for a week. Historically it was tied into the idea of retaining life energy, something not supported by science. Nofap also doesn't make a real distinction between not jacking off and abstaining from sex with a partner, both are ejaculations but only one is condemned harshly.

There are real conspiracies, like suppressing information about covid vax side effects or that the vax doesn't really protect people or stop transmission. Contrary opinions are banned from all major sites, doctors who speak out are removed from social media and have their medical licenses threatened. This is what a conspiracy looks like. YouTube videos promoting nofap and semen retention can spread freely and get millions of views, they are not even shadow banned by the algorithm. These ideas are not widely accepted because the proof isn't there. The alcohol industry is wealthy and powerful and they can't stop publication of studies about the dangers of excessive drinking.
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>>63931759
It's all the Jews again. I also worship Jewish myths and devote my life to a Jewish sect. I still believe that the Torah was handed down by God, but you must be the Jew for challenging me.

This shit is worse then Reddit, same five canned responses. Most Jews have better things to do then argue with people in the middle of the night.

>>63932189
The whole point of nofap is to go get laid or focus more on your wife. Make a guy sexually frustrated for a bit, and he will spend more time hitting on women and will take more risks. It's a version of the PUA tactics, it's something you can learn with practice.

>>63934219
It's a Reddit meme, /b/ has always been a porn board so promoting porn as digitial crack wouldn't make sense there. Guys who believe just scrolling past porn in the catalogue is mind rot would never come there. /b/ used to push penis inspection day as a way to scare underage b&s that they would be caught for having jacked off by the school doctor when they started high school. It was a way to use shame around sex to fuck with people who were shitting up the board with bad posts and shouldn't be there to begin with.

Nofap started out after "the contest" from an old Seinfeld episode got attention again and Reddit stated doing it. This was around when No Nut November started, which was just a fun personal challenge where guys would troll each other a bit to try and get somebody to fail. Nofap and it's support of porn addiction science came around right after this. The two communities are different and do not endorse each other. The guy who has run the r/NNN board has always said that it was just a fun challenge and nothing more. NNN was a thing on /b/ a decade ago, mostly because people had fun spamming porn in threads about NNN to try to make people fail.
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>>63934664
You got it all twisted.
You need money.
You need to focus on you, you will meet women without trying when you get your shit together.
You definetly need to stop masturbating and stop going on dating apps.
Focus on yourself, form a life that you can be proud of.
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>>63934678
>not supported by science
Who is science? Science will tell you what the dude paying them wants them to tell you.
You sound like a sheep/shill/(((other)))
Plus we are all born naked, no one can tell me what to do or what not to do.
Pic related is you, do some self reflection
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>>63917619
What is your most specific fetish?
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>>63934617
Good reading
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>>63915654
did you have acne before you did nofap though?
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>>63934748
So Nofap started out as bullshit but NNN was harmless? I just want to get that confident, productive me back again.
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>>63930925
>We save the Sneed
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>>63914336
nofap = cringe
noporn = based
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>>63938057
and nofap can help make noporn easier.
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>>63924194
most normies are miserable
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>>63938057
So cringey to not touch my dick… nigga I just have sex
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>>63917619
Milf x daughter threesome is kino.
I just can't...
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>>63917619
Has anyone got rid of there fetishes? I “quit porn” like 3 years ago. I have had many relapses along the way but am no longer watching porn daily or weekly. I have streaks that last months. Also I still have sex and sometimes fap without porn.
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I did it starting february this year for 2 months.
I wasnt a massive coomer, but id look at porn for 15 mins every few days and crank one out.

Nofap findings:
At one point i noticed i was waking up without an erection and that scared me.
My interest in sex plummeted, i had more "confidence" but it was false confidence, i would posture and act sure, and it was probably a big turnoff.

On the other hand i felt good about myself and my decision to do something good for myself, i found that regular pics of women were more like candy to my eyes. I told myself it would help my lifts and felt like there was progress being made.

I eventually went back to fapping once a week, sometimes twice, and my appetite is back to normal, I'm waking up rock hard and feeling good about myself.
Never going back to consuming porn though. Overall its worth trying, just dont join any communities or base your personality around it.
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>>63914336
It's worth doing but after the 2 -3 months mark you stop caring so it becomes normality. Most of the benefits are placebo, apart from improved skin, sleep and test.
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When I had a gf no fapping was giving me nice dreams with her almost every night, now that I am alone only sadness and sorrow comes at my mind
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>>63915654
>>63917601
>>63940635
>Skin improvement
This is what I like to see, my skin is fucked up and full of scars from acne so hopefully nofap and all the materials semen holds help in restoring by original skin back. Only day 7 at the moment and will try my best to make it at least 90
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Redpill me on semen retention
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>>63918734
I am a newfag, so not sure what a "stack" is yet, but here is the rundown. I quit cooming and started working out around early June. I was 165lbs; I am 185lbs now. I read the /fit/ sticky and started doing 5x5s. Here are the starting to current numbers:

>Squat rack: 155lbs -> 265lbs
>Dead lifts: 155lbs -> 265lbs
>Leg press: 210lbs -> 380lbs
>Incline dumbbell press: 45lbs each -> 95lbs each
>Bent over dumbbell rows: 45lbs each -> 95lbs each
>Dumbbell curls: 25lbs each -> 45lbs each
>Curlbar skullcrushers: 45lbs -> 100lbs
>Significant increases pullups; I can do about 14 per set now.

These numbers probably suck, but I am just getting started. I've made a lifestyle change, since I STARTED to view masturbation as a sin, after converting to Orthodox Christianity from atheism. I am not going back to being a hedonistic coomer, ever. I am way happier, and way more productive, with much more righteous indignation towards modernity, which fuels my self improvement as well. I am happier with my wife, and probably have much higher T levels. I am just getting started.

>>63923299
My post isn't for those who've accepted and gave into hedonism. It is for those who are trying to free themselves from the bonds of their impulses and passions, which enslave them.
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>>63941051
Mostly a meme, as long as you don't cum more than once every 3 or 4 days you're okay. If you want to have babies as great as possible it's wise to retain semen for around 3 months. Do NOT retain semen for longer than 4 months, even Xiao Lin monks jack off every 4 months or so to evacuate
The real cancer is porn not ejaculation
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>>63914336
I didn't do nofap which is a weird neurotic and feminine way of saying "didnt jack off", I just didn't masturbate for two weeks.

I got horny as hell and developed all sorts of strange fetishes because I was so horny. Also couldn't concentrate because of how horny I got.
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>>63941036

Dermaneedle bro. Get a pen that goes to 2.5. Nofap will improve acne and skin but it won’t make scars away. I got a dermapen (knockoff) for my hairline and it’s been a godsend for that but I used it on my face too because I thought what the hell why not, and it’s been great for old relatively minor acne scars. In my opinion it’s probably the best available option for treating acne scars. Be realistic though, you can see some great improvement but they’re never going to completely disappear
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>>63920731
Jokes on you anon.

I get boi-pussy
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I am nearing 300 days. That's no fap, no sex, no orgasms at all, but I do watch porn and edge a little bit every day (sometimes a lot, have gotten blue balls only 2 or 3 times, though).

my personality is much more dominant and my social anxiety has reduced to maybe 10 or 15 percent of what it used to be. i am now much more like the chad that would make fun of the nervous beta that I used to be. i basically turned from one stereotype to another - not 100% of the way, but honestly 90% of the way. it has reinvented my personality and i would legitimately recommend extended nofap to any beta male anywhere in the world, no matter his age (im 29 for reference).

also my taste in porn has changed, i now fantasize about being much more dominant in bed, probably to a length that normies would consider violent. the amount that i now want to objectify women kind of astounds even me sometimes to be honest, but it is what it is. those are my natural instincts and im not really that ashamed of it. i want to note that the nofap made me like this, not just watching porn, because ive been watching porn all of my life and only doing these long nofaps this past year.

just to elaborate on my changing 'instincts' - not just in terms of sex/porn, but also fantasizing about nonsexual interactions with women. i used to fantasize about walking late a night, seeing a woman walking on the sidewalk, and basically going way the hell out of my way to not scare her and show her that i'm safe (i used to imagine I would sit down on the sidewalk and say to her "see? I can't attack you like this, go ahead and go past me"). now i fantasize about teasing her about absolutely everything, kissing her suddenly, and just being cocky as hell. i'm talking about these fantasies because long nofap does more than change your public behavior, it changes on a very deep level what you end up fantasizing about and even dreaming about. anyways just my experience. also now i prefer when girls are very feminine.
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>>63941712
what did it do for your hairline? how much did you gain back?
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>>63941774
>no fap
>edge a little bit every day (sometimes a lot, have gotten blue balls only 2 or 3 times, though).
what the fuck
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>>63941875
a few times i got carried away and edged too long, but mostly it's just a little bit. just get hard, not necessarily really close to orgasm. it's just a free test boost in my opinion, and low-risk if you don't get anywhere near blue balls territory,
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Why do I still have a cuck fetish / mmf threesome fetish? I have another fetish that developed before porn addiction but pretty sure this one came after years of porn use.
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>>63941774
you are a legit psycho
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>>63942072
hey, beats being a beta
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>>63914336
Yeah I did it when I was 7 to 8
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>>63914336
I have, still not fapping now, for me I don't get randomly horny or really think about women unless when interacting with them.
I don't feel that NEED to have sex anymore and it's super chill and freeing, don't expect super powers.
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>>63942045
Going from normal/non-cuck stuff to cuck stuff i feel like is beyond just porn. That might mean your test dropped or something, i don't know if porn would suddenly make you think about something like that. Usually the 'slide' into degenerate stuff is about doing stuff a little more extreme, but along the same lines. Wanting someone to fuck your girl is just a different thing entirely in my opinion. I've gotten into some crazy stuff but i have never moved even one inch towards wanting to be a cuck.
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>>63941774
Dude edging on porn fries your dopamine circuits but you do you if it works.
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>>63942561
really, source? i figured the 'frying' process was more from actually cumming but id love to read about it. edging gives me energy and makes me want to jump up and do things from the sexual frustration so i dont think ive experienced anything negative.
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>>63914336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs1vHF8yKbQ

You can do it anon don't listen to the coomers. Everyman can live a life of true happiness and a dick in your hands is not gonna help out.
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>>63942602
Too lazy to look for the image, but watching porn gets your dopamine levels very high, way more than anything natural can (A good book, flirting with a woman etc.) These levels drop back to normal after you coom, but you get desensitized from small those small but more import dopamine hits. Edging without cooming keeps levels elevated for even longer periods, thus being even worse.
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>>63942532
I don’t know how to explain it, but the fetish is different than what I want in real life. For example in real life I get extremely jealous if my girl is around other guys. even to the point of being physically sick to my stomach just by a girl a like being around other guys. So the cuck thing is more of a fantasy, it’s not actually the submissive cuck part the turns me on it’s more of the Hotwife thing, basically a women being a slut and cock hungry and taking more than one cock at once. Also usually my fantasies are about me fucking some other guys girl. It’s still gross, but just trying to give some perspective.
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>>63942732
not to derail the thread, but couldn't that then be applied to video games with immersive graphics? or hollywood movies with CG? or just being around women who have a lot of makeup? they are more exciting than natural stuff in the same way.
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>>63942772
Wanting to fuck other girls is 100% normal, so i presume that's not what you're worried about. Imagining her being slutty can be a gray area, sure. If you don't want her to actually touch other men, then it's probably not a big deal.
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>>63942772
You need to detox, my friend. And it sounds like this beyond just a porn detox, you need a dopamine detox.
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>>63942774
Could very well be, just not the extreme levels porn takes you to. I would quit porn, you don't even have to nofap. I'm on nofap now but when I controlled myself to just fap once a week I felt amazing too.
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>>63941774
Let me give you an idea.
Grab a woman by the hair near the base of her head and force her to wal on all fours as a bitch.
That's gonna be up to your liking.
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Whitepill:
Whatever this thread may end like, nofap or fap, do yourself a favour and try noporn.
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>>63914336
>>63914356
>>63917978
I'm on day 974 and I've also mainly noticed a lack of libido (enough to make me concerned). I also abstain from sex although I have been approached by girls in the past (I also don't put myself in social situations very often). I fantasize about sex sometimes and have wet dreams every once in a while still (especially if I watched a movie that features sex/nudity prominently, like I watched Halloween the other night and had a wet dream after).

For me my need for stimulation just shifted to the internet and scrolling and I still am not near my potential. I don't drink or do drugs so I have that going for me. I really need to quit scrolling but I've had so much trouble (it's harder than nofap IMO).

If anyone has any nosurf types I'm all ears.
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>>63943152
I now know my low libido is normal btw and think it is a good thing for where I am.

I've also only ever ran (marathon runner) and never have lifted in my life - I started running only 2 miles a day and will go to the the gym 3x a week starting Monday.
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>>63916426
either bait or delusional indian
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>>63942813
Yeah, things that turn me on are conflicting with what I actually agree with.

>>63942989
How long of a detox? Can I still have sex?
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Day 650, the secret is just not jerking off. Like just stop, don't ever let yourself start. Masturbating plain makes you retarded and gay hahahaha
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>>63943682
oops email name from /k/ bst thread
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>>63943682
Does masturbating condition yourself to get aroused by touching penis? Think about it: you are turned on but you are also stroking a penis so that might create some weird brain wiring where you enjoy touching penis which could lead you to be gay. Any flaws in this theory? Sounds legit to me.
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>>63934643
Saving up for better loads and making yourself a bit more horny for her are both good things. It's single men who never touch their dick who just frustrate themselves for no reason.

>>63935364
Science is a method, not a person or an institution. Like everything else in society now, it is going to shit. Objective reality still exists and it's still possible to learn things that are true. Not everything is a conspiracy. Real conspiracies exist, but they are hard to pull off without mistakes.

A lot of people have to be in on a conspiracy to make it work, and the more people know the more chances exit that someone will fuck it up or grow a conscience and go public about it. The best misinformation conspiracies use shitty evidence and group think to trick people so they don't know they are pushing lies. This is why half the media went on about the Trump/Russia collusion thing, people like Rachel Maddow were true believers so push it relentlessly. Mike Lindell really believes that electronic voting machines moved around a bunch of votes, that's why he spent all that money on some cybersecurity project and kept to his delusions when it all fell apart for not being real at his symposium. When confronted with his fake evidence falling apart right in front of him he couldn't comprehend that he was wrong even when his cybersecurity expert bailed on him during the conference.

It's the same kind of behavior /pol/ engages in. Jewish people push mind poison porn on goyim so they don't breed, but they are often making and acting in these movies themselves. So it's poison for us they willing take themselves for some reason, not just people with a more permissive attitude on sex. Israel is the most vaccinated nation for covid-19 on Earth and also has some of the harshest mandates and vax passport requirements which Jews enforce on other Jews. The vax is still a Jewish conspiracy to sterilize people or genocide them though.
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>>63941774
>I am nearing 300 days. That's no fap, no sex
so ur sexually agressive but getting no pussy?
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>>63920698
Fucking jew, gas yourself
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>>63943852
Take your meds, I dont know wtf you talking about
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>>63914336
I'm near a year of nofap, I just don't want to fap, it lowers your libido and you can use your brain more efficiently. In my opinion, all benefits from nofap just come from this, but maybe i'm wrong, because I may be drunk as fuck
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I think the vaxx made me into a coomer. I fap 3-4 times/day now
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>>63943152
what do you mean by 'scrolling'?
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>>63943927
100% correct. might seem like a fallacy but im convinced i never would have gotten this aggressive if i had sex at a normal age and normal pace like a normie.
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>>63943682
hahahaha how is cooming real like just dont touch your dick like nigga close your hands hahahaha
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>>63924324
This is literally the same story as mine, but happened last spring
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>>63936470
Thanks. This type of false flagging your own shit for hype has existed long before the internet.

>>63937671
Nofap was always bullshit, it's always mostly been super religious people mad that the internet allows for transgressions against their values. Or people who developed a dysfunctional view of sex and relationships that want an easy excuse to be the victim so they don't have to take a hard look in the mirror. People want to be a victim if something in their life makes them unhappy, since this rids them of the guilt and shame caused by having a shit life. NNN came from a Seinfeld episode and was a joke where guys claimed they got super powers from doing it or just wanted to try to make each other fail. Running joke was that (you) were the only person actually doing the NNN challenge and everyone else was just memeing. Nofap is mostly sexually frustrated virgins or people who had some trouble in their marriage so they stopped having sex with their wife and turned to porn and now blame porn rather then wanting to address whatever was causing the relationship problem in the first place. Unless that also address the real problem in their relationship things won't improve.

>>63940166
Most of the nofap people are frustrated virgins or get into some cult of hating themselves or others, if just going out to have sex was an easy thing most of these people would not spend all day talking about this shit.

>>63940494
Going on extended periods of nofap didn't change anything about what stuff I'm into. A lot of people get into nofap because they are super religious and get caught up in shame for some of the stuff they found they enjoyed.
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>>63940612
It's something every guy should try for a bit. I've found I feel kind of like a eunuch after a few months in which I don't really like. I respond the same to just normal pictures of women, dudes that get obsessed with trying to purge all desire from their lives are the ones who get super excited about normal pictures of women because they are creating an obsession. The communities that base their lives around this are all cults, it's an easy way to make frustrated men hate themselves and feel dirty so they can be controlled. People who they that they are weak or broken on their own will demand to be enslaved by someone offering to absolve them.

>>63940635
It's all placebo benefits, but is worth doing at least once for a few months. If you find yourself suddenly depressed or unsatisfied with life even a month later, it's a good sign you need to make a change and were relying on distractions to avoid noticing. A better diet and lifting more with boost testosterone. If semen retention was a huge part of getting buff then every guy in porn moves or who his in a relationship for that matter would look like a DYEL. Arnie when he was young was banging hot women constantly and still buff.

>>63941611
This is a big part of how people make nofap a lifestyle. They get super horny because their exual needs are not tended to so they start thinking about more fetishes and hate themselves for it, then blame having looked at porn for all of it. Being constantly distracted by it upsets people so they get more into the cult.

>>63940920
It's because love is just a chemical reaction in your brain, one you can set off without a gf. Guys who are alone are distressed by it since getting laid and having a partner are basic human drives.
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>>63944679
>>63944416
biggest faggot in the thread
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>>63944069
I thought all modern science, medicine, and psychology was a trick of the Jews and not real. If I took meds I would just be giving into the pharma Jew.

>>63942989
Dopamine detox is just mad up, it would tell you that coming to this site is just as bad as porn, video games or gambling. Gambling is addictive not in a chemical sense, but in a behavioral sense. BF Skinner used rat studies to show that intermittently reinforcing a behavior caused rats to go the longest in a behavior before they stopped dong it. If the food lever gives them one pellet every time they push it, then you turn it off, they stop pushing the lever quickly. If the lever gives them food only sometimes, it could take one press or 100 to get food, they will press the lever for a long time once it shuts off until they give up. Skinner managed to create superstitious pigeons using intermittent reinforcement, this is how many religious rituals get started.
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>>63944818
This is bait. You are being retarded on purpose.
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>>63942772
It's because people can have attraction to what they are ashamed of or find taboo. Brood parasitism is a huge threat for a guy trying to pass on his genes, so you mate guard IRL. Guy like the idea of a hot woman who would give them sex easily, and there is something regarding about being the one picked by somebody hot and desired by many others. It's why women are into sparkly vampires or 50 shades, the want a desirable man who is chased by all to chose them over everyone else. This is the romance plot in almost all women targeted love stories. It's why Hallmark makes so many movies like The Christmas Prince. The idea of being high status enough to cuck someone else is appealing, which is why you are thinking of it.
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>>63934748
>The whole point of nofap is to go get laid or focus more on your wife. Make a guy sexually frustrated for a bit, and he will spend more time hitting on women and will take more risks. It's a version of the PUA tactics, it's something you can learn with practice.
That's a good theory, but it doesn't hold up practice. All the NoFappers posting a whole lot about their relapses, and very little about getting their dicks wet suggests that it's terrible tactic for getting any pussy, let alone younger, hotter, and tighter pussy.
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>>63944416
>A lot of people get into nofap because they are super religious and get caught up in shame for some of the stuff they found they enjoyed.
That's really weird to me. My porn tastes have been extremely vanilla and have barely changed. For me, it's blowjobs and vaginal sex - anal is a turnoff.
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>>63944709
Thanks nigger, you won't do shit about it. Most of the nofap people or /pol/ schizos are massive Christcucks who worship a lie and enjoy being slaves. The shit you guys obsess over is easy to prove false, but you need these delusion for your life to have meaning. I stopped being one of you and my life improved.

>>63944833
All disagreements must be Jews or shills or somebody trying to stop us, no one could seriously disagree with what we are saying. I'm just tired of alt right faggots shitting this site up now that I'm done with their delusions. It's just like talking to braindead woke liberals on reddit. Any real counterargument is called disingenuous or you're called some kind of bigot so you can be disregarded. It's the same kind of triggered lib memes people were obsessed with in 2015. You're just the same kind of idiot so it's either the Jews or bait when it happens to you.
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>alt-right
Worse, they're probably closeted homo Fuentes fanboys
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>>63924498
So your answer to hypergamy and promiscuity is to lean into them rather than rejecting them and the social order that allows for these problems to persist?
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>>63945035
More bait
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>>63943605
Your only entertain should be the Bible for like a whole week.
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>>63944906
It is a terrible tactic because you become very self hating, which is the whole point of a cult so you want to be enslaved so somebody can take all your flaws away from you. These guys live for internalized guilt and shame, while also justifying the sad state of their lives by blaming an external enemy (porn) for using its power to ruin them. Same as /pol/ blaming Jews or BLM blaming whites.

There are a couple of YouTube grifters where an attractive and confident man tells guys that nofap will get them hot women, also make sure to by my confidence man program now at a discount. They will combine tactics that offer benefits, like learning social skills better, with things designed to make guys feel weak or bad without submitting to control to keep people around. Doesn't matter if they know they are doing this or not.

Most of them are virgins who can't compete for women easily when hypergamy is subsidized and enabled with privileges granted from the state. So they turn to the only outlet they have and some of them get into creating a cult around hating themselves for it as a cope. Never take sex advice from such people.

The subset that is people with relationship problems, most of the testimonial section, stopped having sex due to a problem in the relationship so typically the guy will use porn as an outlet. Often they are super religious so their attitudes about sex or porn cause much of the distress. Look into stories by sex therapists who treat women who come from religious backgrounds that are sex shaming or value virginity above all. Once they get married they are so repressed that they have problems with having good marital sex lives.

>>63945031
It's a common story told by religious nofap people, the shame and transgression is part of the appeal. People have different sex drives and preferences just like they have different personalities.
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>>63945589
>value virginity above all
Virginity is more valuable. In ye olden days, even if your wife wasn't fresh, she couldn't unitaterally initiate divorce and you were the authority of the house. Now, without those household privileges, and since virginity correlates highly with a lasting marriage, it's even worse for a guy to marry a hoe than it was in the past.
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>>63917532
Stay strong man and keep trying , i made it 150 days broke my streak and couldn't get past a week for months but i finally did
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>>63944223
Just going on 4chan and scrolling through threads nonstop (either on my computer or phone). There is always a happening on pol and the demoralization threads always get me!
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>>63934571

>not a real figure
>somehow still in the the>>63934571
>>63934571
writings of tacticus
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>>63945078
Fuentes getting outted as gay is going to be sides in orbit levels of kek. No straight man spends half an hour joking about slapping around his friend's dumper on a public stream while the guy he is hitting on is getting angry about it. Catboicami has no problem getting viewers for being gay or bi or whatever, his videos are funny and he's a great troll. Most people that like kami watch him because he's funny and really racist and edgy. Nick might have to get better material then repeating the same talking points over and over again or claiming he's a movement leader because he grifts disaffected teenagers and managed to pander to gullible and desperate boomers during stop the steal.

>>63945242
My answer is to end all socialism and legal privilege granted to women. By funding single moms and granting them the legal privilege to divorce rape men and steal their money in alimony and child support, the state removes all barriers to hypergamy. Leave women to experience the consequences of their action without welfare and things would get better. This larping about brining back Christian social norms enforced by the state is never happening, it's one of the reasons the alt right is committed to failure an is a controlled op. Israel is much more socially permissive then the larpnostate /pol/ dreams of because they don't enforce a theocratic dictatorship, they just have ingroup preference which is totally normal and doesn't take alt right faggotry to believe in. Almost no one wants to give up the freedom they have now, so no one will buy onto this rigid worldview, and enough new devotees will never draw enough people to the alt right to even make a real attempt at taking over.

>>63945322
Bait, Jew, shill, tranny. Same NPC lines when your dogma is threatened. Don't worry, you don't have to experience the pain of confronting your flawed world view, you can just rage to the echo chamber online forever.
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>>63944416
Just came to optionaltypo. Good stuff.
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>>63946015
Religion only offers real utility in marriage because it still enforces patriarchy. Religious girls are not any more chaste, it's why I looked down on them as a teenage zealot. Almost all of them would go blow their boyfriends, it's just some of them wanted to save vaginal for marriage. A decade later those I scorned are doing better and have marriages and families. My trad gf unicorn never appeared. Most married couples now did not lose their virginities to each other on the wedding night, yet they still have normal relationships and love each other. Women wasting their youth because they fucked Chad once and now they think they can get him to marry him are the big fertility killers.

You're right about divorce. Even with permissive divorce if all welfare was eliminated single moms couldn't support themselves and would have to settle for the guy they could get. Without the power to steal from a man using alimony and child support the problems caused by hypergamy would plummet quickly. Ideally marriage should be a fee contract, parties can agree on the terms with total freedom and won't get any alimony if they didn't bargain for it. Most single moms can't earn enough to support their kids so why should they have them?
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>>63946738
Wrote decades later, from second hand sources. Adam Green addresses the Tacticus cope thoroughly. It's why all these "based trad" influencers agreed when they were challenged but they quietly bitched out later when they watched his videos and realized they would lose a debate. Have you read Tacticus yourself? Never meant someone who sites this cope that actually bothered to read him.

https://odysee.com/@KnowMoreNews:1/Jesus-Hoax-Interview:c

Watch this. Losing my old beliefs was painful and made me miserable for months, I see why people would rather rage or cope then reassess their beliefs. Both Christianity and the alt right are controlled ops. Hal Turner and his fans along with stormfront slowly started propagandizing 4chan after Turner the fed got trolled into the dirt. The freedom loving 4chan of old, which could have had something to offer with exposing conspiracies and providing a free space to hate on authority, got co-opted. A generation of young thinking men now living for frog twitter fame could have gotten somewhere with more moderate or libertarian politics, and could have gone out into society to talk about real corruption and conspiracy and gotten somewhere.

If the only guys trying to tell people about the corona vax not working and not being properly tested didn't start the next sentence with the Jews did this, blacks are monkeys, burn the gays, hate all women etc. they might get somewhere. Combine a bit of truth and reason with psychotic hate and insane conspiracy and you get nowhere, even if these alt right types weren't getting banned right and left they would do nothing but chase off almost everyone with this shit. The only ones who will listen are the angry and disaffected, and they will have their lives destroyed for it. Head pumped up with lies, taught to hate himself and made into an alien in his own mind, he'll struggle to live a normal life let alone try to get married.
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>>63934507
Hal turner
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>>63933837
thanks anon you spurred me to reflection (i am not the other anon)
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>>63947029
Thanks. I hope a few other guys won't get caught up in this delusional anger cult like I did. I'm done with it now and working on improving my life. I'm already doing better. Went to hang out at a local club and made some new acquaintances who invited me to go do stuff later. Even had a woman start flirting with me, tell me she'll be around later if I come back again. My poor social skills held me back and getting into this cult made it a million times worse. I think I pan pull out of it though.

>>63946522
The whole dopamine addiction myth tells people exactly this, though scrolling through /pol/ threads is much worse then porn. I tried talking to a normie friend of mine about some of this stuff and he thought it was just nuts. Normal people will look at porn but haven't fallen into the terminally online state that gets people caught up in this stuff. Those happy normies with normal careers, relationships, and families don't think about this shit. Normal guys look at porn sometimes and it never causes an issue. There has been a spike in demoralization lately because the fact that this alt right struggle is pointless is starting to set in. Trumps not coming back, they can't even discuss their beliefs with their families let alone wider society. Some are even talking about making intentional communities (cults) out in the woods. Given how catty and prone to infighting these groups are I'm sure it will go well once they all live together. Just hope it gets live streamed.
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>>63933837
Missed this one. I still don't believe CNN, hate the woke, hate socialism etc. You are the one who is dependent. Dependent on echo chambers to validate your beliefs. Needing other lonely castaways to pat you on the back for buying into the next mental gymnastics competition. You live for the few places alt right ideas still can be discussed, chasing a thirst for knowledge so you can look down on others. I understand what you're saying because I used to be you. The world isn't some conspiracy or trap, you're just insane. You'll probably never get out of these circles, where you live for power fantasies.

The only life you will destroy with your hate is your own.
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>>63924363
I don't know if you're still here, anon, but I have enjoyed your posts
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>>63932552
I was on day 85 and started thinking of myself as some golden lion that was being gazed upon by a divine entity.

I felt like this person who radiated warmth. i felt like a leader, any problems i had wouldnt overwhelm me because i knew that while they were hard i could overcome them because i had mastery over my urges.

how can you expect others to respect you if you dont respect yourself and take the easy out by jerking off to porn.

I'm on day 6 and i can feel the lion returning, that or im entering some psychosis.
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>>63947718
Thanks. Don't fall into the same cult I did. Don't let these people try to attack you into joining them. Ever see some of their meetups? That's the soft looking nerdy guy you are arguing with. Appearance shaming is so common because they are projecting. I don't want to see other wayward men fall into this, getting caught up by the guys who ruined my favorite piss ocean and those they propagandized.
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On day 4 of no fap bros. Ready to fuck just about anything. So glad you guys are here in this with me.
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>>63947789
It's weird, I started coming here because I got sick of other forums I was visiting, and all their self righteousness. Somehow, at first, it was easier to treat 4chan like a joke because I align with the left. I could read NatSoc threads all day with an emotional distance that I couldn't keep when I saw other leftists behaving like fascists.

At some point, though, it was like a switch flipped and I was in over my head before I knew it. I began to enjoy pol, and everything that means, even while I knew it wasn't what I believed, and that I was ashamed of ow much time I spent on these boards.

I don't even know why. I'm happily married, have a good job I enjoy, exercise, have hobbies, close family and friends. By most measures I am modestly successful and happy. Yet here I am, some days literally for hours. I have lost sight of myself and I do not know why
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One thing I garantee for you 100%: you will realize how the Internet has fucked your mind.
You will see how simple things actually are.
There are no "huur bbc stacies chad durr"; this shit only exists in the microcosmos of the abiss of the Internet: imageboards in general, reddit, discord, foruns etc

When you get off from porn, your brain makes a "sexual revolution" and you see that things are more pure and natural than you think

Also: daily reminder that this place is full of porn addicts that think the real wolrd is actually what they see on 4chan. They REALLY belive that.

Get away from this people
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>>63947874
When did you first start coming to 4chan? I came here right around the Habo hotel raids and chanology, before Boxxy showed up. 4chan was a completely different place, the change was no accident. 4chan was the wild west, an experience that is almost gone now. The alt right and /pol/ still has parts of the old humor left, sadly because many from the old days are the ones doing it. It used to be easy to troll these types off the board with shock images, /pol/ got as bad as it did mainly because it doesn't allow porn and gore posting. It was how old /b/ kept normeis out. /mlpol/ was a well loved experiment because it was funny again and allowing people to post weird porn scared outsiders off.

It's like Alice Cooper said about his concerts, he provided a free space for people to transgress against society for a bit and go back to their lives. People love doing this. /pol/ has just enough of it left to be interesting.

The creativity is gone though, 2016 was the last of it. When was the last time /pol/ or 4chan for that matter made a decent new meme? Corona chan was the last, most of the humor that was actually funny gets called degenerate by the killjoys now. They just post new edits of old things. Almost all new memes are edits of wojack, which is from 2015. The OP meme is just another wojack, that's all there is now. Advice dog and it's spinoffs felt like they became the eternal redundant cancer and they were only big for 3 years max. Once the alt right really took over, the fun died and with it the humor. Transgression is a key part of humor and they see all transgression as Jewish tricks, so other then the same few tired jokes the fun is gone.

Don't beat yourself up over coming here, just see to your responsibilities first and don't take this place too seriously. Some boards are still alright, typically the ones that allow porn posting since it scares these people off or the ones for nerdy hobbies. /k/ is wonderfully apolitical.
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>>63948118
shit got bad when politics came in here
we had no political focus, we just wanted to see the world "burn", have a laugh and have fun

I blame the wave of Incel-poltards that took everything too seriously and ruined everything
(funny how most of them are all zoomers and most are actually underage trying to be ~le hardcore edgy from the dark internet)
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>>63916735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZktxO6adTnI&t=1
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>>63914336
I've only got to 60 days max twice. Both times I did it, it was the best times in my life in every possible aspect. Whenever I stopped, my life would go to shit again.
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>>63947874
Are you me anon?
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>>63947405
Nigger seriously you doing your same shit
The vax works, the mainstream media saying it also works doesn’t mean that it don’t. Don’t throw out your brain in the process of questioning shit
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>>63914336
Idk about your benefits but i benefits a lot from you not doing it, it fuels me and I do it two times more
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>>63924363
Bless you anon, thanks for this post
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>>63948179
I've started to notice that too, I still find oldfags on /pol/ but most are zoomers who know nothing about what this place used to be like. It's primarily these tradcath types who hate women but also hate porn and masturbation. I used to watch some of these guys frequently while stuck at home. A lot of them would just watch hentai anyways and there were discord wars where they would mast post hentai to one of their private discords to troll the nofap people. These groups still carry the more libertarian shitposter culture and hate of authority with them, they hate censorship and want decentralization and love crypto. They are often the first to defend free speech, even though they want to get rid of it. Mainstream woke culture is so repressive that these guys are the only ones with remotely controversial humor, that attracts people and warms them up to fall for the conspiracies.

Back during 15-16 is was still mostly people from this board doing all this, so they were not near as bad. The new zoomer generation is the roided out version of the chanology tryhards everyone used to hate. Shit changed when this site started lionizing the irl try hards rather then mocking them. The clown world/honkler meme was a bit of a revival of this spirit but the boring and uncreative soon took back control.

These guys pride themselves on being incel, telling themselves that through faith and no pp touching their trad gf will be summoned. That's not happening and as they get older their skills with women get worse and outside of school they are cut off from meeting new people and easy dating opportunities. They are setting themselves up to destroy their youth. They'll break eventually, but could keep up their spamming for years and attract new aimless teens until their old guard finally cracks. Maybe when Fuentes gets outted as gay it will fall apart, anyone with fame and money not using it for pussy at 21 is gay.
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>>63948404
The vax mostly likely just isn't that effective and there is political pressure to make it look like it did. It's not made to kill people since they could be taxxed to death. With the boosters I think big pharma is just trying to use this crisis to compel commercial activity. How much would they make to jab everyone twice a year? Reevaluating your entire life and worldview isn't easy, I'm just trying to make sense of things again.

>>63948431
Thanks man, I'm trying to work out my own thoughts on the way out of this. If you like it feel free to share this stuff with others. Maybe there are some other wayward anons we can break out of this or newfags we can save. My story with /pol/ is a cautionary tale, I just want to save those I can.
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I genuinely need help bros. I've been so fucking addicted to porn it's actually ruined a good chunk of my life. I am confident I can still recover, but I have missed out of 9 years of social and personal development by jerking it 4+ hours almost every day. I just finished a 6 hour VR porn binge and frankly I feel like anheroing wouldn't be a horrible solution.

I have deluded myself since I was 14 that jerking off to internet porn constantly was making me better because it numbed all emotions and urges, and kept me robotically focused on school. I realize now I just made myself super depressed, and my mental faculties were literally only capable of doing my homework, jerking off and going to sleep after 1am. I wasn't 100% focused on academics, I was 40% focused on academics and 60% dead inside from the dopamine spikes.

I'm 23 now and I seriously think I need to go see a psychiatrist or something. My hobbies are intertwined with my fetishes and porn: I browse it, download it, organize it, discuss it. I even go as far as to try to learn to draw just so I can make my own fetish porn. I hate having a crippling porn addicting so fucking much. Nobody takes it seriously. Even as I read this pitiful /blogpost/ I feel like a fucking clown for even having this problem.

tl;dr: Fuck porn, fuck jannies, fuck my life
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This is literally the only good thread on /fit/ in possibly years. Jesus, I miss what this website used to be. I already blocked this website on all of my PCs, so I literally come here to read posts and mobilepost once every few weeks or months. It makes me feel really sad for what was lost, and what will be lost for the people who are still here.
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>>63948691
delete everything right now
its a small step but its something you can do RIGHT NOW that WILL help you
ease of access is a huge trigger
if you can't even delete every bit of porn off your hard drive right fucking now you don't actually want to get better
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>>63934678
That point about the YouTube algorithm was interesting
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>>63914336
>>63914336
>1st streak: 140 days seed retention
>current streak: 150 days
>nofap since Nov 1. 2020

Yes, you can become extremely disciplined and have control over the flesh

You treat thotties as regular humans and can get any heaux you choose, because you dont need the box. when you move like this they love you and 'feel safe' around you.
Plus you become more productive and more intelligent, jacked and handsome(you use the pent up aggression for positive endeavors & self-improvement) it's a win win
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>>63949260
Getting nerfed by the algorithm is a key early sign that something is being suppressed. If there is a conspiracy to hide something one of the first things that will happen is a shadowban. The election fraud stuff and corona skepticism both got nipped in the bud early, whether or not either is true doesn't matter for noticing this pattern.

The your brain on porn website bases it's marginalized status from most mainstream science around a conspiracy, claiming everyone else is a tobacco science doctor on the take from a well monied conspiracy. That's why their research is a complete 180 from everyone else, they are just the only ones telling an uncomfortable truth to money and power. If they were on the side of a dangerous truth, the first thing that would happen to them is YouTube trying to hide their videos while making it look like they aren't.

Simplest answer is the most likely. There is no conspiracy, they are just wrong, and only bitter virgins on the losing end of hypergamy or religious zealots fighting a losing war against the results of personal freedom combined with fee exchange of information believe them. The ultra religious need them to try and regain their hold on a straying flock, the "nones" are the fastest growing faith in America and churches have an average age of attendance higher then a GOP conference. Almost all young people raised online like porn. Men, many of whom cannot compete for women effectively, have no other sexual outlet. These are the only men extreme dissidents can appeal to, make them hate themselves so they demand their enslavement and they are yours.

>>63948786
What about it did you find so interesting? I just want what this place used to be back too.
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>>63948691
You’re not alone anon, I’m not far off you porn addiction wise, and I’m the same age. Started for the same reasons too at about the same age when my girlfriend left me for my mate, I had to watch them hugging while I was waiting for the bus it hurt so bad lol.

Not sure how to proceed desu. On the plus side though, at least we’re not addicted to alcohol or heroin lmao.
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>>63948673
It’s hurts when you realise something you always relied on is not only dead but also septic, your post really hits home.

I’m a centre left (if that even means anything anymore) sorta guy, and am a ausfag obviously it’s a bit different to burgers, but always liked the bants as a way to escape the stick up ass people I often dealt with.

But now it isn’t just fun escapism anymore.
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>>63948691
Believe you are addicted and porn is a delicious forbidden fruit or an evil super stimulus and it will rule your life, whether or not you stop looking at it. With this time commitment to it, you probably don't have a job or friends knocking on the door. If you just quit porn and spend your time here you won't get anywhere. Try applying for some jobs, anything that will take you. With shit jobs your competing with junkies so showing up is over half the battle. Just start talking to people, doesn't matter if you think their bluepilled, this mindset is designed to make you an alien so you rely on online idiots.

The man ruining you life isn't a Jew in a porn studio, he's the man in the mirror. Don't focus on blame focus on positive steps. Find some charity to volunteer your time with, they never have enough help. Find any hobby or activity group in your area and join, even if it's something you aren't into. Make yourself talk to people. Isolation is your main issue. Step away from porn for a few months, the pain will still be there because your life is still shit. Fix why it's shit or nothing changes.

Normies never care about this shit because it all just comes naturally for them. You're not one of them, never will be. You'll have to force yourself to learn to act the part if you want to change. Don't waste your time being angry or bitter towards them, your only victim look back at you in the monitor. They will never need some plan to avoid touching their dick because it just happens for them. Craft a mask to be likeable, wear it well. Force yourself to speak to people, as long as you aren't super spergy it will go fine. Force yourself to fit in with them for a few months while walking away from porn, then make your own choice about how you want to go forward.

Absolutely do go to a therapist. Tell them about your porn addiction and why you believe they have it. Listen to what they say about it. Please make a new thread about this topic when you do.
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>>63950198
Yeah it sucks man. Effort posting really was the death of it all. I just wanted a place to be an asshole and break every social norm as long as I didn't break the law. The escapism is still fun, it's just gone. It only becomes a problem to escape if it becomes your life, unless you are satisfied with Bohemian rhapsody. It's fine if you are just don't lie to yourself about it. Don't live for the validation of others either, that's something that just comes and goes. Make peace with yourself, you'll never outrun your own shadow so don't try.

The /pol/ schizos have a far bigger stick up their ass then 99% of the population. Anons used to hate these people now they become them, all for permission to belong with guys who are alone. Tryhard faggots took this place, and sad part is they were bitches of the original fedposter and ruining 4chan was an op to kill any effective resistance. Nones are the fastest growing religion, Christcucks and other moralfags used to make for good trolling targets, now they keep people chain to the corpse of tradition. Blacks, Jews, Asians, etc in America have some kind ingroup identity and cohesion without being right wing authoritarians. They are making themselves lose on the one issue they value the most, all according to plan.

Some boards still have the old spirit. /v/, /r9k/, and /fit/ are recruitment targets because they have lonely incels, guys at least trying to improve (good self starters), or just the most people (gamers who don't like reddit). Outside of these places /pol/ is more widely mocked. Any of the boards where porn posting happens are free if it, but long before deciding to do nofap again I just found them and their content boring. Nerd hobby boards are better, weebs, horsefuckers, and niche hobbyist give less of a shit about this. /k/ is wonderfully apolitical, one of the better havens for the old ways. /biz/ is like /x/ (now ruined by christcuck schizos from /pol/) but actually funny.
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>>63915776
hot
seems like win/win to me ;)
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>>63949972
Based, it’s hilarious how everyone who gets all pissy about “hypergamy” is a permavirgin
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Does nofap help if you have a generally low libido?
I suspect I might actually be low t, since I don't tend to be very aggressive and don't really grow much body hair, and a big problem for me during sex is just not being horny enough to keep it up, especially if the girl isn't super tight. I'm good looking enough to be twinky and maybe a femboy if I put more effort into my appearance, its just annoying to have be having sex and my dick isn't cooperating.
How do you know if you have some type of porn induced erectile dysfunction? Is it possible to get that with just masturbating?
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>>63950517
If you have dick function problems it's either a T issue or more likely it's a social anxiety issue since you are with a partner. You are probably just feeling ashamed of yourself or nervous about disappointing her for some reason.
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>>63950687
social anxiety is part of it honestly. I have no clue how to deal with that though other than just fucking a lot more and improving my overall self esteem (but like thats all a lot of work :/ )
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Did accidental nofap for around 6 months
Didn't really feel any different than when I was masturbating 1-2x a week.
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>>63914336
I got to 47 days nofap&noporn. The evening on 46day i pray to god to bless me with wet dreams so i could finally release, the tension was too much to bear.

As for benefits, i was more horny and energetic as i used to coom to much. IMO it's not worth it to go more that 1 or 2 weeks. Semen retention is a meme but so is masturbation. You have to go out and fuck a woman or die trying.
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>>63914336
3 days already and this shit thread still isn't dead ? Who the ruck cares about cooming or not ? Just don't look at porn and don't do it 10 times per day.
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>>63932513
>Females
That's your first problem right there
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>>63948691
what VR porn? i tried some about a year ago, it honestly wasn't even that great. tracking wasn't that great, some games have terrible graphics, VR porn videos often don't have great quality, etc. wasn't actually worth a VR headset
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Just do noporn, fapping is completely healthy. You keep your libido and lose your unhealthy addiction.

In fact, it's probably BETTER to fap since you can only rely on your own fantasies. Once you start repairing your own fantasies, you'll be closer to recovering your baseline.
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>>63953507
Discussing the specifics isn’t healthy, but basically I comb through hundreds of super high res videos and pirate the ones that have more talking or striptease in them. Virtual BJs are retarded but everything before that where there’s face to face with a 10/10 talking to you and flaunting her body is next level immersion to the addiction.
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>>63953802
dont listen to that. he is a paid jewish fap promoter.

jews want you to fap because it makes you dull and docile. porn is just one weapon to GET you fapping.
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>>63952328
This is what I was thinking, neat.
Also, any weabros able to translate this sign? I'm just seeing the kanji for wind and wondering if it says do not fart.
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>>63948691
just remember that you're never too far gone my friend



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