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This is my goal body, the reason I started lifting.
I don't have a problem if this physique takes 10 years of consistent lifting, but is this size and shredded-ness possible for a natty lifter? He doesn't have any of the obvious roider signs (huge delts compared to pecs, vascularity, etc)

Obviously aesthetics depends on my insertions, but I'm concerned about size and shredded-ness.

Also, what do you think his lifts are? (5RM or 1RM)
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idk
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>>60820438
why would you reply
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>>60820423
Looks reasonably natty in this shot
scott herman tier
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>>60820456
scott herman is natty? you're telling me this is achievable without roids?
bruh /fit/ makes it seem as if nothing is possible without roids
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>>60820423
Any body can be achievable with roids, but not every body can be attainable natty. That being said. If you think that it's attainable then it is, because at the end of the day it's you that's putting in the work.

Lifts don't equal size, i can squat 5 plate and bench 3 plate and I look like shit
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I have that hairline
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>>60820423
Idc who he is, but he's achievable natty
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>>60820763
yes, but I've usually heard that natty means you're either big and builtfat, or small and shredded. Usually both don't go hand in hand, which is what my initial question was.

Can you post body? Genuinely curious (I'm building up to a 1pl8 bench from skelly)
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>>60820778
Both you and Joe Delaney are going bald.

Finasteride, minodixil, nizarol shampoo. Start today and you might be ok.
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>>60820907
Joe Delaney is 30. Going bald at that age is still acceptable.
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>>60820481
>pump
>professional lightning
i mean he looks pretty ripped and juicy in this one but in something like pic related
sometimes its hard to say in pictures
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>>60820763
>Lifts don't equal size
What equals size then?
I don't give a fuck about lifting more, just growing bigger.
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>>60821009
Cope
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>>60821080
volume or more specifically, mechanical tension.
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>>60821081
I'm 20 with a normal hairline lol
But from what I see around me, a lot of people around that age begin to go bald
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>>60820778
Then go bald and fuck all the faggot duel zoomer buzzards that tell you shaving it off is some kind of fail.
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>>60820907
Not that anon, but my hairline is only marginally better than his, and it's been frozen in time since age 20, I'm 30 now.
Back then I felt a little bit insecure that I had a middle aged hairline, but it's holding strong so far. I don't think it's going anywhere.
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>>60821094
Why the FUCK does 4chan keep shilling powerlifting programs then

I've been doing reddit ppl and though my lifts aren't progressing cleanly, my muscles definitely are getting bigger
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>>60821180
the volume in the ppl is a bit too high though, especially since the first compound lift of the day is AMRAP
But I still manage to do fairly well on the secondary lifts of the day
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>>60821180
Strength programs for novices are good for beginners since they are simple. programs like PPL have way too many exercises that you end up mastering none of them.
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>>60821066
Second this. Angle, lighting and pump can look any lifter look enhanced. I really believe Scott Herman is natty. Dude hasnt become much bigger despite 10+ years of dedicated lifting.
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>>60821391
>>60820763

dude you have body dysmorphia
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>>60822312
he doesn´t look like shit but i have seen better looking guys barley benching to plates



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