Is self improvement a meme?
>>59342029If you do fitness, you are improving yourself
yes and no. improve to be a better version of yourself, but dont try to to "improve" into someone else manlet destiny style
Not really. I'm much happier now that I'm fit, know how to cook, DIY house repairs, pc building, electric management, cable management, etc. Self improvement is good.
>>59342029the only realistic self improvement beyond not being fat is just not giving a shit about needing to improve anymore
>>59342029Kek, i'm literally this guy. How to get girls, anons?
>>59342150>The Chad "I don't care"You're not wrong. Nothing feels better than relieving all your stress by simply not caring about things out of your control.
>>59342029Literally everything is a meme in life. Some memes are funny. Pick the memes that you find funniest and live them, at the end of the day it doesn't matter too much. Just try to be kind to your fellow man.
>the image that ended /fit/
>>59342029if your obese and self improving to loose weight, noif your improving for praise or satisfaction of someone else, yes
>>59342294most based post on this website
>>59342294This but unironically
>>59342029>>59342309Our actions determine who we are. Act as a Chad, be a Chad. Act as a virgin, be a virgin. Which one do you think spends his days improoooving and which one demoralizing people on the Internet
>>59342446>Act as a Chad, be a Chad.
>>59342029>Is self improvement a meme?You need to spend some time away from the computer if you're actually serious
>>59342467before and after mewingrespectively
>>59342029Literally? Yes, quite a meme. In the haha funny picture sense? No.
>>59342029Self improvement is only a meme if you focus on trivial shit like mewing instead of actually bettering yourself
>>59342029>he willingly nerfs his skin, fashion and hairMight as well marry the fattest woman you find while you're at it. Don't want to show off now do you?
>>59342309The dudes here who attempt self improvement are miles above the mgtow incel doomers who post shit like this.
>>59342467right one obviously doesn't care about his appearance, meanwhile the left one self-improved to his peak. by improoooving you can get 2-3 points of physical attractiveness guaranteed. then you can farm charisma exp by hanging out with other people, doing interesting stuff so you can tell stories, etc. The Chad on the left obviously doesn't spend his days shitposting, demoralizing or playing DnD, he spends it improving and with other people
>>59342029kek literally me to a T
>>59342029>>59342309>>59342446The image that saved /fit/, /r9k/ and lookism fags all at once
>>59342029are you retarded?yeah it's a meme bro just stay the same never improve never try, you were born as good as you could ever be
>>59342294This is the gayest and most retarded thing I've ever read
>>59342309I don't get why ppl seethe at this?ur upset bc you didn't some cheap pussy in high school?If u feel sad or some shit over this pic you should probably kys lmao
>>59342887There's a site known as Reddit that might be more your speed :)
>dude becoming better and surpassing what is average is gay lol just sit on your ass and cry on r9k about girls not wanting to suck you off under your fupa all day lolNah I think I'll keep fixing my body so I can do things you'll never be able to do in your life.This thread is utter fattie cope, and OP is just projecting their inability to get off their ass and lift>ALL FIELDS
>>59342129>I'm much happier now that I know cable management
>>59342467Literally me after eating nothing but meat and showering my pillow in cold water for 2 weeks.
>>59342029There are ways to self improve for real and there are meme self improvements.Example of memes would be nofap and cold showers, mewing, etc.Real improvement is stuff like actually doing real cardio, lifting, calorie restrictions to lower your bodyfat %
>>59342294This sounds deep and philosophical but you won't be happy if you do this. Real happiness comes from others.
>>59342598Left is a criminal that brutally beat 3 children to death but of course he's a good person just like you correctly judged from his jaw and chin.
>>59342598trolling or delusional?
>>59342029it’s only a meme in that true improvement is understanding there is no self
>>59342029"le self improvement nofap yeah wommyn are BORING xxD!!" a la reddit is definitely a maymay.Wanting a srs change for the better definitely isn'tNobody here would know, thou
>>59342309young boy became a monk. He dreamed of enlightenment and of learning great things. When he got to the monastery he was told that each morning he had to chop wood for the monks fires and then carry water up to the monastery for ablutions and the kitchen. He attended prayers and meditation, but the teaching he was given was rather sparse.One day he was told to take some tea to the Abbot in his chambers. He did so and the Abbot saw he looked sad and asked him why. He replied every day all I do is chop wood and carry water. I want to learn. I want to understand things. I want to be great one day, like you.The Abbot gestured to the scrolls on shelves lining the walls. He said,“When I started I was like you. Every day I would chop wood and carry water. Like you I understood that someone had to do these things, but like you I wanted to move forward. Eventually I did. I read all of the scrolls, I met with Kings and and gave council. I became the Abbot. Now, I understand that the key to everything is that everything is ‘chopping wood and carrying water’ and that if one does everything mindfully then it is all the same.”
>>59342029No, people who rip on others who try to improve are just insecure. It’s like all the DYELs and fats on this board constantly trying to demotivate others. Crab bucket mentality.There are definitely some meme self-improvement things and not everyone is as good at it. However, just trying & having hope will give you a better life.>>59343445>cold showersUnironically are actually healthier than hot showers. It will also get you used to the feeling of ‘taking the leap’ into something uncomfortable. You should do these and warm showers. Hot showers are fucking terrible for your skin.>no fapSome people genuinely have a problem with pornography and need to address this. Maybe not no fap but no porn or just dialling back cooming. I’ve never had these issues but it’s important that some fix this. (Eg telling a skinny person to lose weight is retarded, telling a fat person to lose weight isn’t)>>59343464>real happiness comes from othersHow about some moderation instead of retarded binary thinking...
>>59342150the omega cope
>>59342029lol this meme is made by a fucking gay who prolly thinks his gyno is curvaceous or som shitnigga gets so flustered seeing someone self-improving -_-
>>59343496>Left is a criminal that brutally beat 3 children to death but of course he's a good person just like you correctly judged from his jaw and chin.
>>59343521>trolling or delusional?
>>59342903You are a giant faggot and should kill yourself
>>59342029its the only tool to get out mediocrity.
>>59342309What 0 pussy does to a mf
>>59342029If you're a faggot, yeah
>>59342029There is nothing wrong with self-improvement, however, before you do that you should do some self-acceptance, unless you want to end up like a (not anymore) friend of mine. He was a cool dude but a bit on the incel looking side, at around age 14 he got into all the lookism stuff and he actually started to look like another person relatively quickly (party thanks to growing up too), but he never accepted himself so he kept carrying his insecurities around, now even though he looked good, his "self-esteem" was nothing more than an inflated ego and he got deeply narcisstic to the point that he could not recover from it. Now his whole sense of worth was based on looks and perceptions of others, there was no foundation, you could compare his fragile ego with an inflated balloon, one touch by the needle of reality would shatter his view of self, which is his whole world. However since there is no place to retreat to, the only way to cope with his world being questioned was to attack, with words, smearing and sometimes physical violence. In some situations he could simply not act on it in the moment, so he would bide his time, smile you in the face, and when the time was ripe, deliver a knife into your back. This sense of revenge was very strong, if you attacked his ego conciously or unconciously, the hurt would sit so deep he would remember it for YEARS, including stuff most people would not even remember for a week let alone not care about at all. It all only got worse with time, now he needed to constantly brag, show off, talk down on other people, find the weakest people in the city, befriend them just so he can "permamog" them and fuel his ego otherwise he would not feel good. By the way, he made very good progress in the first year of his looksmax journey, but after that the changes were almost unnoticable. Nowadays he walks around squinting and just looks like a legit retard doing it. He can never be happy, because he never accepted himself.
>>59345098TLDR: Guy didn't accept himself, became obsessed with lookism, and his personality became irreversibly fucked over the years. Do self-improve, but on the basis of self-acceptance, otherwise you will ruin yourself irreversibly in the pursuit of acceptance from other people.
Self improvement is only worth it if you are tall and have a huge dick
>chewing imported sapWhat does this mean?
>>59345098>>59345108good post. i've been there. too bad a lot of people are still like that.
>>59343307Hahahahahah do these losers even read shit they write lmao
>>59343445I think that nofap is a meme because you're treating a symptom instead of the disease itself. Coomerism is a symptom of a shit lifestyle and the best way to stick to nofap is by doing things that have nothing to do with cooming that just generally improve your life like exercising, reducing idle time, filling up your time with hobbies, activities, social interactions, getting a fucking job, having goals and a schedule for yourself, etc. But instead nofappers use shit like porn blockers and cold showers
>self improve in many ways>still get denied for being too short (5’6)Yes, self improvement is a meme if you don’t pass certain standards that are out of your control
The reason self improvers don't make it is because they treat it like a quest in a video game where you do a bunch of predetermined tasks and get your reward at the end. That's not how it works
>>59345464you’re just moving the goal posts to continue gaslighting low status men into being distracted instead of revolting....
>>59342309The man who posted this will never amount to anything at all.He might go through life, and have that nice wife, that job that pays enough, the house with the white picket fence, and the two kids.But he will stagnate there. He will stay with his wife, no matter how bitchy and fat she gets. He won't try to work harder and won't get a promotion. That house will never look better unless he hires someone. He will lose his kids as he won't try to be a better father.The genetic dead end, will, no matter what, will feel better after finishing his goals rather than the man who stagnates through life.The man who criticizes the weak when they are striving towards strength is the weakest man on earth.
>>59345484No, it's that self improvement needs to be about a change of mentality above all. The>I've done x y and z where's my normie statuspeople are the biggest autists of all. It's cargo cult mentality applied to everyday life.
>>59343687>No, people who rip on others who try to improve are just insecure. It’s like all the DYELs and fats on this board constantly trying to demotivate others. Crab bucket mentality.This is very true. People going out of their way to bring others down usually have a lot of insecurity themselves, and there is no shortage of these people anywhere.Always remember to love yourself and improve for YOU first and foremost, to live better, healthier, stronger, not to make other people like you more.
>>59342239Never underestimate the pressure of having everything within your control
>>59345519I deleted my reply because I wasn't happy with what I wrote but I agree with you, and applying discipline to day to day life is way of changing your mentality as-well.
>>59342029reminder that the virgin self improver meme BTFOs itself because the virgin self improver mogs the virgin walker
>>59342029Be yourself but be better than yourself.
>>59342309I have no idea why people ever take this post seriously, it's the most obvious cope ever. It was very obviously written by a lifelong loser who rather than having the will and balls to try and lift himself up, simply resigned to his shit life and tried to project it on everyone else. Most fag ass shit ever, honestly
>>59342294I feel that but I usually think of it like this: your existence is physically tied to your brain. for all you care, reality — all of the universes’ history and whatever is yet to come — literally only matters so long as your brain is switched on.
>>59342029This hits way too close to home
>>59345697why would you squint?
>>59345697for dem eyebrow gains bro
>>59345794>>59345803Well brow ridge more specifically
>>59342029It is because the fact that you've lived a loser your entire life and out of a sudden you decided everything will be okay with some mental gymnastics is absurd. You've missed the train. Everything is cope.
>>59345828i get what you mean and the uphill is going to be nothing but catching up if there is any luck. And it is mostly cope for people like this. But there is truth in having the "nothing to lose" mindset, it´s just i think most people do not fully use that point of view to their advantage
>>59342309this was written by a /rotter/. You wanna ascend? Go to /fraud/ and take /tren/
>>59342129>pc buildingwhat did he mean by this
>>59342467Me on the right.confidence posters are delusional
>>59342446>>59342559>>59345518>>59345681Holy fucking cope kek look at these wall of text replies
>>59342467They both look like different cartoon archetypes
>>59342029>>59345275This. If you consider jaw surgery self improvement, it is completely legitimate advice
>>59345623sincerely hope his delusion is never shattered. There is nothing in this world for him
>>59342892It implies that a person has missed on the "high school" life. Drinking(unless you are american), socializing and having teenage sex with what alot of people on /fit/ consider to be the prime age for girls. Now they are stuck being wagecucks in their mid 20s, with no dating or sexual experience, balding and struggling to get fit because their body has stopped growing. And they just get depressed because they missed out on those things and feel it's too late to make it better, but they still try to "fix" something about them just to avoid getting even more depressed that they haven't achieved anything in life and eventually kill themselves.
Once you grow past 25 you realize that self-improvement just means not being an overthinking retard. Exercise and eat right, but other than that just do whatever the fuck you want instead of trying to live up to someone else standards of what a """"modern man""""" should be.
>>59342029Oh totally, just sit there. Going to die anyway, what's the point? Might as well kill yourself now but meh, that's too much effort. Just stay in bed, have some more junk food, I'm sure everything will magically turn out in the end, someone IS coming to save you, right?
>>59342129>pc buildingholy midwit
>>59342029>lost weight>started lifting>went into higher education5 years later>still a khv>never went to another country alone>all my friends are shut ins aswell>failed uni 3 times despite studying 7 hours day (you can't improve on low IQ)>27 years oldYes, self improvement is garbage. 99,99% of all people I know who live a better life than me didn't even do 0,0000001% of the effort I put into my life, they naturally slipped into girlfriends, an active life, their degrees and high paying jobs, literally.The blackpill is the objective truth. It's ALL genetics. It wouldn't matter if I were an obese lardass throughout my 20s who never bothered with education, or would be in shape and bench 3pl8s for 5 reps trying HARD in college like I do now. I would still end up as an shut in loser not be able to graduate anything or develop a worthwhile skill despite doing 1000000 times more to develop one than everyone with that said skill.tl;dr: if you have to try, it's over
>>59346884Failing uni thrice is the most brutal part of your post. But normalfaggots here will just spin a wheel and pick an excuse why it's always YOUR fault bro.
>>59342598>playing DnD is badAre you retarded. Pen and Paper rounds improve your social skills and creativity if anything. Anon, they sit around, talking to each other and must adapt to a new situation given by the dungeon master.Spending time in Pen and Paper rounds is a good thing as far as self improvement goes
How do I learn to “love” myself? I lift for girls and because I hate myself and my insecurities. I never felt like I've tried hard enough or done enough or gone for that last rep or bite of food because I was afraid of failing.
>>59346429Literally me except for balding. What do I do?
>>59342892Women between 14 and 16 are the prime anon. They never will be easier and prettier.I was fat as a teenager and blame my parents for it (no teenager is smart enough to know what's good for him), was bullied hard and got mental illness. No one ever bothered to help me despite asking for help.High school is the prime of your life and if you missed that, it's over. No amount of cope can make this one not real.
>>59342029No, it's only dissed by incels with a sour grapes problem
>>59346925True. The worst thing is that almost everyone I studied with was fucking lazy and started 2 weeks prior to look over the material a few times, while I always studied the stuff for hours on day one.Yet I am somehow to blame for my situation. In a just world I would be a nobel prize winning scientist with an phd in quantum physics cause this is the amount of work I put into a shitty bachelor course.IQ is the mean to all ends, the most important thing in life and the one thing you can't change. It's determined by a random dice roll at birth.
>>59342309So what's the argument exactly, that some incel find it cringe?
>>59345518The guy who wrote that IS the genetic dead end, he just want an excuse to not trying
>>59346268The pic they're replying too has a wall of text itself, smartass.
>>59342029Yes, just stay fat and retarded.
>>59347125Evidentally that would make zero difference even when he would try to improve >>59346884
>>59345098kek das me
>>59347149Still sounds like he just wants us to feel pity for him. I’m pretty certain if he wasn’t such a fucking sperg he would eventually pound some pussy. About that whole education thing I’m not so sure, but still he’d probably fucked himself again in some way.
>>59347226Cope. If you are handsome, women offer you sex out of nowhere without trying.
>elevate cortisol levels due to cold showersIs it true? Is it bad?
>>59342239>out of your control.>self improvement>your control>self
>>59343573"Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water."There, I just summarized your stupid story into a better and more well-known adage
>>59346937It’s the purest form of escapism. It is at best neutral for self improvement.
>>59347268Yeah no shit, but most of us are not (including me) and have to try hard, or you can always give up and shit yourself in your mother’s basement while ranting about women on /r9k.
>>59347391>the only actions that matter should involve self-improvementSome actions have a purpose in of itself. Not everything needs to contribute some imaginary progression in your head
>>59342029>is trying to better yourself a memeNo, it's one of the most fundamental basic drives we have. Obsessing over it like that picture, and many spergs online do is a meme. Not trying to improve yourself is pretty ridiculous
>>59346960Women's prime is 16-25, then they can only decline, which starts accelerating somewhere around 30 to 35.
>>59346960t. 20 yo
>>59347903I'm almost 30.
>>59342129>thinking cable management or pc building or whatever "electric management" is supposed to be are skills, let alone an improvement of yourselfLiteral 8 year old kids can build a PC, it's not any harder than putting together a couple pieces of LEGO
>>59346884You think successful people never fail?You want to give up because of pussy?You think you have it bad at 27 because you didn't travel alone?What a spoiled, entitled piece of shit. Keep being a faggot with that loser attitude, meanwhile people born miserable in shitholes actually achieve things and ascend higher in life than you because that woe-is-me garbage won't put a roof over their heads or food in their plates.Faggot.
I fucking hate jews man. No, self-improvement is not a meme.
>>59348181>I just ignore 99% of the post and focus on that one small detailHoly cope. And yes, I have it objectively worse than most people. >muh loset attitudeLmao I legit did more in 5 years than you in your entire life you delusional coper. Try studying 7 hours a day 365 days a week and still fail almost everything and try to talk to over 200 women in real life and get a rejection rate of 100%, for nothing but your face.And those "people born in shitholes" had a better genetic outline in the first place. They are less than 5% which represents the bell curve perfectly cause this is the amount of people with an IQ in the 130s.But keep spouting ad homs without realizing that you literally agreed with me and contradicted yourself KEK
>>59342029this meme should be replaced with a photo of Lex Fridman. dude is basically an embodiment of the virgin self improver
>>59348024Then you've somehow managed to utterly fuck up your 20s if you consider high school the prime of your life. There's very few people that would agree with that because of just how obviously easier and better your 20s general is.
>>59348266You are an entitled autist and 4chan has fried your brain
>>59348296Ye, if you have an high IQ and a good looking face maybe. I fucked up my 20s despite improving constantly due to bad genetic outlet. My 20s were awful and my 30s will suck even more. I genuinenly wonder why I didn't roped myself yet.
>>59348320>literally worked my ass off>DURR YOU ARE ENTITLED BECAUSE YOU EXPECT A POSITIVE OUTCOME AFTER WORKING COUNTLESS HOURSJesus, you are either 15 years old or a woman
>>59342650literally me [spoiler]i actually should use glasses though[/spoiler]
>>59348328>improving constantlyWhat does that mean?
>>59348356That means that I worked my ass off for 5 years and yet got nowhere and even straight up failed everything."It will get better" is a giant cope. Every year is worse than the prior one. If you have to try, it's over.
>>59346960>High school is the prime of your lifemore like university
Pursuing somebody else's ideal of the improved self is cope, pursuing things that actually make you happy and committing to things that are important to you are good for personal growth, especially considering that the alternative is to stagnate or get worse.
>>59348408>having to study 40 hours a week to barely pass if you are not high IQ is the prime of your lifeYou have a weird definition of prime. Maybe if you are IQ 120 and pass everything with 5 days worth of studying.
>>59348343Calm down autist, you're the one bitching like a girl hereWorking "hard" is not and has never been a guaranteed way for success, you're still young, and many people have been at it longer than you aren't where they want yet, and that's okay, because success is more about consistence and discipline long term than it is about overworking yourself like a fool for a few years then expecting to become a self-made man when you are still in your 20s and have a whole life ahead of yourself stillFaggot
It's not a meme if you actually work on things that help you move forward in life. It is a meme if you think if you only read enough inspiring shit or try enough "weird little tricks" and shortcuts you will somehow find the secret to success or whatever you are looking for in life. One thing I believe will automatically put you on the right path is getting your priorities right and vouching to always try and make the best decisions you can.
>>59348440>27>whole life aheadHOLY COPENo, I don't. The AVERAGE age for a bachelor degree is 22, 99,99% of all jobs already filter you out for your age alone.Second it's a giant cope that prime women want older men. They want older men with money who look like Jean Val-Jean. Hence my dating pool are ugly single moms as soon as I became 25.So no. Maybe in the fucking 80s you could graduate at 40 with an awful gpa and directly went into a high paid position, but graduating at 22 with a PERFECT gpa and flawless skills is AVERAGE.Your life is literally over if you are not high IQ, which is 100% genetic.
>>59346884Here’s a redpill: you deserve to be alone becuase of your whiny attitute. Once you fix that maybe you’ll be able to attract friends and mates. So smart yet so blind lol.
all these "dude just improov go to the gym three times per day join 12 different book clubs become rich and extremely passionate harp player" empty normalhomo casual advice is useless considering that the vast majority of dudes that are in relationships are none of those things, probably even more boring and interest-less than a standard kissless virginjust get with the terms that people like you and I are simply meant to die alone
>>59347043You deserve this “fate” buddy. This is the future YOU chose.
>>59346884Would your life be better if you were still fat and uneducated?
>>59348530>so smartI don't even have to go into your rest because you didn't even read the post. The point is that I am not smart and that's why a failure despite doing more than every single one of you "successful" self improvers who were just high iq Chads under layer of fat and hence your success had maybe 0,1% to do with you improving anything and all to do with genetics.
>>59348545People want to surround themselves with people that make them feel better, not pull them down.
>>59342210Unironically be yourself.
>>59348266Study how to talk to girls then pleb, or get a mail order bride/ gold digger, it’s the only way for cretins like you.
>>59348479>Hence my dating pool are ugly single moms as soon as I became 25.U ugly
>>59348581wow riveting insight anon bravo, just as I thought I was a 11/10 supermodel
>>59348479>flawless skills and gpa>unable to secure a girlfriend.The answers obvious, you are an annoying peice of shit, plenty of ugly fat guys get laid/ girlfriends, your a slave to this victim mentality, nothing more, nothing less. Take pussy off a pedestal simp
>>59348559This is the future I chose cause the current economy expects you to have a bachelor degree in stem to be even considered for any job above putting things in shelves.>>59348561It unironically would, cause I could still cope with that I am just lazy. Now I know that I am not lazy, but all this hard work proved my genetics are sub par and I am extremely low IQ. Probably only slightly above 85 cause I can at least boost a computer.
>>59348479> Your life is literally over if you are not high IQ, which is 100% genetic.Do you even listen to the things you say? If yes, how cant you realize how retarded you sound?
>>59348444>getting your priorities rightThis is big, and it's what I struggle with.Also, checked.>>59348479>cope cope copeYou can only speak in 4chan buzzwords, this place has fried your brain indeed.Like Trump says: Sad!
>>59348603>I know a guyThere it is, the bluepill cope answer number one
>>59348603>Take pussy off a pedestal I do that my entire life, I pretend as if I don't care around women so much that they probably think I am genuinely not interested in them in any way at all
>>59348606High IQ is 100% genetics. It is nothing but a random dice roll.
>>59348567You have an inferiority complex bro, unironically. If you can channel your “low iq” to get good grades and 3plate bench you can channel it to get girls. The only difference is with human relations youNeed to be able to reflect on why you are ublikeable. I’m sure when you worked out it wasn’t just effort in the gym, you looked up how to eat well and how to rest . If you get what I mean.
If you're not content with where you are then no.
Holy fuck go back to /r9k already, this is fitness board.
>>59348642>If you can channel your “low iq” to get good gradesWhat. Did you read anything. I wrote that I straight up FAILED uni three times despite studying 48 hours week
>>59348617I don’t know fat people, I hate them, just like I hate blackpill faggots like you. If you want to deny that there are fat and ugly (or just genetically unimpressive people) who manage to date, that’s you being delusional. Fucking pussy.
>>59348658Protip: Every single board on this site is and was just /r9k/ + a hobby/interest.You can make a kissless virgin thread on any board you want and you'll get +200 replies almost everytime.Anybody who is not a flaming tourist newfaggot is aware of this
>>59342029if u make it your whole identity, yes it is
>>59348658This is pre stadium r9k with bluepill copes
>>59348669There are. They are called rich people.
Anyone watch the universal man on YouTube?
>>59348434>40 hours a weekbased retard
>>59342309I think I could have gotten some pussy in high school. I was not super attractive, but I wouldn't say I was ugly, and some girls were attracted to me in middle school, though at the time I rejected them because I wasn't interested in girls and relationships, yet. I was social too, much more than nowBut then, my mom put me in an online school for various personal reasons, so I never really experienced the social aspect of high school. But maybe I could have gotten pussy, I think. I'm also suspecting that online schooling made me into the antisocial shut-in adult I am today.
>>59348695Cope and wrong. >>59348662You’re right I mixed you up with some one else. Either way if you have the high energy to study for 7 hours a day you have good work ethic. Find something your iq “permits you to do” and you’ll be successful.
>>59348723Yes, this happens if you are not high IQ and in stem.The average IQ of an stem graduate is 125.
It is for faggot nerds who spend all day trying to bring others down. At least you know you have no potential and are worthless, us genetically superior makes will continue to rise as you watch and seethe.
>>59342598>>59343496Crazy example of halo effect.
>>59348745True fuck these nerds always complaining
>>59348604The fact that you're able to type correctly and to produce abstract thinking shows you're above average, probably in the 105-115 realm like a true midwit. Don't you feel better in your body being muscular and not fat? I think you're genetically cursed but your curse is negative thinking, you'll probably find a way to be depressed if you were good looking as well
>>59342029Not everyone can be 10/10 but everyone can end up as a 0/10.
>>59348799This his inferiority complex/ slave mentality is holding him back
>>59348799If I were good looking, I could at least leeche on others who drag me to passing grades and not study from 10 am to 9 pm every day to fail anyway.
>>59348800This anon gets it
I'm 24 years old, no physical disorder, no diagnosable hard mental illness, raised normal, decent parents, normal siblings, standard grades at school, look normal, don't dress like a manchild, lift and eat better than most people around me. Never even kissed, let alone had sex
>>59347295Worry is part of your control retard
>>59348866>JC Denton. 23 years old. No residence. No ancestors. No employer. No –
>>59345474Is that really what you guys think? Go ahead and revolt if you want.Because here's a real blackpill for you: if you had the agency to revolt (and I mean effectively revolt, not ER style "months of planning foiled by a locked door" revolt) then that would mean you would also have the agency to fix your fucked up lives and therefore, not feel the need to take out your frustrations and failures on other people to begin with.
>>59343496bruh thats miro cech, a czech model
self improvers need to live in the momentthe problem is they are living in the future instead of enjoying the nownothing but the moment exists
>>59348992*slovak model, im retarded
>>59346429The "high school life" is really not a big deal. I guess no one ever clued them in that you can still drink, socialize, and have sex with hot girls in your 20s too. Add to that, these guys are losers who chose not to do anything fun in high school. Probably because they were too busy shitposting on here all through their formative years.
>>59349008once you miss your developmental milestones, and you spend your formative years as an outcast, there is nothing you can really do. you will be a friendless loser for the rest of your life, if you turn out to be good looking you can maybe fuck some whores on tinder but thats it
>>59348832>study from 10 am to 9 pm every day to fail anywayI am a KV with a 4 inch dick and aspergers, but holy shit I'm glad I'm not you lmao.
>>59346960You sound like a fucking total loser. No, not because you didn't get girls in high school. For the following, much deeper reasons:1. You couldn't figure out on your own that being fat is unhealthy and makes you look worse. You shouldn't have even needed your parents to tell you this.2. Holding on to high school (as a fucking almost 30 year old) and still not doing anything about being a loser in the 10+ years that followed.3. Thinking of 14 year old girls as "the prime", again when you're almost 30. This should speak for itself I think you fucking creep. Shout out to Uncle Anon who is at least (I think) joking.4. Assuming that everyone else is in the same boat as you otherwise they're just "coping".Do the world a favor and just fucking end it you pathetic victim.
Self-improvement is a meme if you're genetic shit. Because it's a multiplier to your base value, rather than an addition. So a good-looking person who already gets girls without lifting will get even more after he improves his physique, while an ugly person can have a body like Zyzz and still be a virgin. A person who's already smart can go into STEM and make six figures yearly, while a stupid person will always be unemployable no matter how much knowledge he tries to cram into his dull mind. A man who's already six feet tall will look even more impressive in elevator shoes and command even more respect, while a man who's five foot four will barely make a difference in his quality of life with even the tallest elevator shoes on the market.
>>59349089Even if a 7 can improve himself to a 9 because of the multiplier effect, but a 5 can only improve himself to a 6, it's still worth it for both of them.Any improvement will open new possibilities in life and the journey towards improvement in itself can also fill you with a sense of purpouse.The only losers are people like op that remain a 5 because they realise they will never be a 10.
>>59349062I would gladly be at least JUST a khhv if I get an higher IQ in exchange
>>59346884>failed uni 3 times despite studying 7 hours day
>>59349152People who find themselves in the incel/outcast situation can only dream of being a 5.
>>59348635True but he may be contesting that your life is over if not high IQ.
>>59349268You can do okay if you're handsome and stupid, or ugly and smart, but not if you're ugly and stupid. That's a guaranteed miserable existence with no hope for escape apart from suicide.
>>59349240Believe me or not. My biggest accomplishment was passing calc 1 in 2019 with a grade slightly above the failing grade. This was after 4 months studying nothing but calc 1, visiting all lectures, tutors and exercise groups.
>>59349252Not always, I know guys in that situation that could easily be a 7 with self improvement. But if you have nihilistic mindset and have given up, you'll never get anywhere.
>>59349329There's that "I know a guy" line again. Why is it so hard for people like you to accept that genetic failures exist?
>>59349308>This was after 4 months studying nothing but calc 1, visiting all lectures, tutors and exercise groups.Nigga that's what you're supposed to be doing if a class is hard for you. What's your point?You passed. That's what matters. It's behind you now, that should feel good right? Math is not everyone's subject.I also just barely passed calc last year after studying my ass off. Believe me, I know.
>>59348832See it's your mind that's failing not your body. Why weeping about spilled milk? Just enjoy what you can have and accept what you can't have
>>59346884the fuck u were studying to fail 3 times?
>>59348832>I could at least leeche on others who drag me to passing gradesDrag you to passing grades how?Do you think that once you reach a certain threshold of looks people offer to take your tests for you or something?
>>59349352Because you're handing out detrimental advice not just to those people but also to those who do have potential but don't see it.You're one of those people who tries to drag others down with them, quite dangerous
>>59346960>High school is the prime of your lifeHow's being 19 treating you anon
>>59348384But yet you haven't explained what 'working my ass off for 5 years' entailed
>>59348434I'm in the last semester of university getting a 2:1 and I left every assignment till a week before it was due. Unless you're doing law or some shit you're not doing 40 hours a weekScience student here btw not even social sciences
>>59342467>>59342446Yes, but unironically.
>>59349451I don't give a shit about failed normies. I want my people i.e. genetic dead ends to know they're not alone, and it's not their fault for not wanting to keep putting effort into something that clearly and evidently does not work.
>>59343687>>cold showers>Unironically are actually healthier than hot showers. It will also get you used to the feeling of ‘taking the leap’ into something uncomfortable. You should do these and warm showers. Hot showers are fucking terrible for your skin.
>>59342650another mentally ill cope image macro
>>59349553You can decide about your own life anon, but don't try to poison other people with that mindset when you know nothing about their current situation and if they truly are hopeless.
>>59349640If they're on 4chan whining about being a 26-year-old kissless virgin, they're probably hopeless.
>>59349664Why have you given up anon?
>>59349678Same results as not giving up, but with less work. Better ROI.
>>59342981He never said any of that. You're the exact type of person OP is looking to trigger by making these threads and it shows how much of an utter loser you are that you respond like this.
>>59346960Women between 11 and 15 are prime anon. Take the Islam pill anon and lift for Allah.
>>59349079>Uncle Anon who is at least (I think) joking.He's most definitely not
>>59349687That's not a whole lot of information
>>59345518you had to make up a whole story in your brain to cope with the fact that someone trolled you hard? holy gde cope
>>59346884>failed at uni 3 times despite studying 7 hours day [sic] (you can't improve on low IQ)>not getting fit after working out 7 hours a daylol, sounds like you really are stupid
>>59347391As a /lit/ fag, I find that playing tabletops helps me practice writing better settings/visualizing with imagery. It's fun, too.
>>59342309pure cope and resentment condensed into a single post. kind of impressive in that regard.
>>59346884Why not learn a trade to become a carpenter or a plumber or something? If you're not smart enough for university, why waste your time on it?
>>59346960You should probably just kill yourself
>>59346884Don't bother anons, these faggots are all spoiled rich tall attractive kids who got everything and achieved success, they cannot relate to you and have the nerve to bitch that its your fault. Bunch of stuck up arrogant faggots
>>59350151This. Not everyone is cut out for college especially STEM. Just like not everyone is cut out for bodybuilding but this board is still full of people crying about their genetics. There's no shame in either of these.The real question is the WHY...like why do people here put so much value in succeeding in one specific (often very niche) thing and think of themselves as failures if they don't? These guys have to find what they actually like to do and what they're actually good at, and I have a feeling the decisions a lot of people here make to try and become xyz was never really made by them, just based on what they think people want from them.A fish who tries to climb a tree will think of itself as a failure. So will a monkey who goes deep sea diving. See where I'm going with this?
>>59350252>you need to snap out of it and stop being a btich>durr you must just be RICH and TALL durrThis one's NGMI lads.
>>59348545Yea agree. Im rich, fit, workout and lift, swim, bike and cook yet im still a khv meanwhile my friends are all either NEETs, construction or min wagejobs and smoke weed and drink yet they have sex and 1-2 have gfs. Not even ugly either
>>59350274Not all talents or vocations are made equal. Why woud someone embrace being a mouse when there are tigers roaming this world? Who gets a better image? A tiger or a mouse?
>>59342446>>59342467>>59342309>>59342029Hylic hands typed this
>>59342029I do the squinting but that's just because I don't like the way glasses feel or look on my face. And contacts annoy my eyeballs so I just walk around squinting all day. It's a pretty manageable existence if you're near-sighted.
>>59350317Yeah well, you're not a tiger, obviously.>Who gets a better image?And there you have it, exactly as I predicted. You don't do things based on what you're good at or what you actually like. You do things based on how you think it will look to other people.
>>59350321>>59342446You my friend aren't a hylic.
>>59350350Most people do that to a certain degree and those who are the most vocal in criticizing it are massive copers
>>59349043>>59349008HS makes or breaks you. I spent 4 years in HS chilling with drug dealers and criminals, and 4 years in uni and still a khv. Its weird, violent angry guys I can easily get along but never women
>>59347276It's a temporary spike, not a big deal.
>>59350364Keep coping.Yes, most people do all kinds of stupid things they shouldn't. Your point?
>>59350252>spoiled rich tall attractive kids who got everythingI'm a 5'7'' 25 year old KV who works a shitty warehouse job despite having a masters degree in a STEM subject. It's a weird kind of arrogance to believe that everyone who disagrees with you is just privileged.
>>59349664Why do u blame a man for being a khv when its women who chose if they fuck you or not? There's only so much a man can do before he reaches a sky limit
>>59350252>>59346884Self-improvement isn't only about losing weight and getting fit it's about reconnecting with your spirit and starting your spiritual development.Negative outlook will produce negative results and opportunities, accept god or gods into your life and you will see improvements.
>>59350317We're talking about humans here not tigers and mouses.And humans have this weird thing where they form very complex societies where almost everyone has their own little niche , their own little job and their own little family. Stop thinking in terms of tigers and mice and just think of a giant machine with countless cogs.Your job as a human in a society, is to be one of those cogs. Not the biggest cog, not that one very flashy cog, just the best cog you can be within the confines of your personal interests, talents and skills.
>>59342467me before and after covid vaccine
>>59350431If a man can't laid because he's either a complete fucking loser and/or has never really actually tried, why wouldn't you blame him and not the women? None of that is the women's fault.
>>59350518Thats some bullshit fallacies, not every virgin is a late 20s NEET living in their parents basement. Sorry khvs have jobs, exerise and looksmax to look good appearance wise. There's only so much a man can do to get laid, if he get no success then it kinda puts the pressure on women. Wtf kind of logic is that, if no women wants to fuck you yet your presentable, females have a problem, no?
>>59350593Do you ever interact with women on just a friendly basis or have you never made it to that stage?
>>59349498I do 40 hours a week sheer studying. I went through all exercises countless times and wrote down explanation for each way.If you are not high IQ, it's over
>>59350317Mice are more evolutionarily successful than tigers. Animals succeed by surviving within their own niche, image is irrelevant.
>>59350274Yes, the fish is a failure if the only available jobs regarding his species require tree climbing.It isn't the 1960s anymore, a bachelor degree in stem is barely enough to get considered for a job.
>>59350650Then go for something that doesn't require smart people I.E something like car mechanic or plumber or something.
>>59350593>Sorry khvs have jobs, exerise and looksmax to look good appearance wiseWow, ok so you do the bare minimum expected of a functional presentable human being. What does any of that have to do with women liking you? Do you think you're entitled to sex just because you're not a NEET or fat fuck?>>59350631Do you really think women post here?
>>59350649Never had a female friend, I did talk to 2 women, 1 being a co worker but onced after a while I asked them to hang out, they said nah and ignored me after. So idk whats the issue
>>59350730Why do known drug dealers and known wife beaters always have girlfriends
>>59350705So how then do you explain all the people out there without STEM bachelors and yet who still have jobs?
>>59350705That fish's name? Albert Einstein.
>>59350753Because women actually like them in spite of that?How does that contradict anything I said? In fact it only reinforces it. If women don't fucking like you, it's got nothing to do with if you have a job or not. You're supposed to have a job.
>>59350757Most of these jobs are poorly paid. The ones who have a good paying job without a stem degree are 1 in 1000 and have it due to contacts, aka. they are successful normies in the first place.
>>59350731Maybe a step in the right direction would be to make sure women and people in general actually like you as a person and value your company. It's not going to make you a pussy magnet, it's not some get gf for no effort card, but it will at least get you out if that all or nothing mentality that you seem to have.
>>59350802Fine, so then be poorly paid then. Or stop being a lazy fuck and start your own business. Or find something in demand that you are good at that you can be paid for.Do you really think you'll be keeping your high-paying stem job for long if you have to study 40 hours a week to just barely pass your classes? You're in for a rude awakening if you think you can fake your way through the real world the way you can for school.
>>59350650I'm not high IQ and again i'm on track for an easy 2:1 in my Bsc, you don't need to be smart to know the criteria and then effectively tick the boxes you need to. Stop coping.
>>59342029too many neets treat self improvement as a last ditch effort to escape their autism and catch up to the normalfags. that's a meme, it leads to this retarded r9k mindset >>59342309 even worse it makes you view your life as a retroactive failure. it's a shitty way to live, it will make you bitter and resentful.the self improvement treadmill should be the end goal in of itself. find cool shit that makes you aspire to greatness and never stop chasing that and pushing yourself. this is all shit you natively understood as a kid before 12+ years of gynocratic prussian schooling and jewish medicine broke your spirit and conditioned you to be empty and servile. rediscover the joy and satisfaction that comes from mastering your body and your environment. become skillful and interested. a side effect of becoming a happy, competent, healthy and interesting person is that you will become far more attractive without even trying to be.
>>59348866It doesnt not get better once you hit 33, trust me on this. Try your very best RIGHT NOW or you will be a worthless piece of shit just like me. Money or /fit/ body will not fix it, you wont make it if you trust the mouthbreathing idiots here.
>>>59342029 (OP) #>too many neets treat self improvement as a last ditch effort to escape their autism and catch up to the normalfags. that's a meme, it leads to this retarded r9k mindset >>59342309 # even worse it makes you view your life as a retroactive failure. it's a shitty way to live, it will make you bitter and resentful.>the self improvement treadmill should be the end goal in of itself. find cool shit that makes you aspire to greatness and never stop chasing that and pushing yourself. this is all shit you natively understood as a kid before 12+ years of gynocratic prussian schooling and jewish medicine broke your spirit and conditioned you to be empty and servile. rediscover the joy and satisfaction that comes from mastering your body and your environment. become skillful and interested. >a side effect of becoming a happy, competent, healthy and interesting person is that you will become far more attractive without even trying to be.
>>59350871Alright, for the sake of your argument I believe youGive me a STEP BY STEP instruction EXACTLY how you study. I don't mean a overview, I mean a EXACTLY DETAILED DESCRIBTION how you remember and apply studied material.For the sake to make it easier I give you an specific topic: Calc 2
>>59350802What exactly are these 'well-paid STEM jobs' that people keep talking about? Are you saying that everyone who isn't an engineer or a doctor is poorly paid?
>>59350730Yea, every man deserves some sort of relationship or sex at least. In this day and age, women are picky and chose only a few pool of men. Your taking a individual perspective, im for society benefit as a whole. You cannot have most men being lonely, sad and having no sex or relationship, thats totally unstable
>>59348739what's your IQ then? 125 is smart but far from genius level. and it's only the average, not a minimum. you can assume there will be graduates with 105 or 110 as well.
>>59350780Idiot, your a fucking idiot if you think its right for women to accept a criminals as a partner instead of some STEM 6 figure nerd like guy. Thats totally unstable, in no way is that a good thing
>>59350981101. Tested 17 years ago when I was 10. It's over
>>59350833Highly doubt women will ever give my short ass a chance, they have so many opportunities its crazy. Im a bitter angry guy i admit for still being a khv even tho I keep fit and have a good financial base. When your burned so many times and been rejected, its hard to keep a smile on your face
>>59350973>Yea, every man deserves some sort of relationship or sex at leastNo. No one "deserves" anything.>In this day and age, women are picky and chose only a few pool of menMaybe, but that top pool of men really isn't hard to break into considering the competition.>Your taking a individual perspectiveYes, and so are you if you're talking about how YOU can't get laid. Don't pretend that you're making this about society.>im for society benefit as a wholeFuck society, and no you're not.You know how societies really improve? When everyone who comprises it strives to be their own best. When everyone does it, things get better. When almost no one does? Well, just look around at the world we live in today and see where that gets us.
>>59350877I known 28 YO NEET drug dealers get tons of pussy and same ages guys work in high finance and still be a khv. Wrong
>>59350901okay keep cryjerking to underwear models. i'm sure you'll save up for those zygo implants eventually
>>59351016>>59351059Things like that is also bad for our bros overseas. I guess you all heard of Just be White, essentially you can get laid easily in Asia (even the rich parts like Japan) as long as you're white, that means you doom an entire race of men into inceldom.
>>59350890As a 22 khv, I thought it would get better, no? My folks said screw girls, focus on school.
>>59351082>drug dealers get tons of pussyhow could this possibly be.
>>59351079Yep, your a individualist faggot, fucking delusional. You talk like those rich spoiled yuppies i see downtown, faggots who just talk shit 24/7 and are complete hypocrites. Im for societal benefits and that is keeping men happy and joyful, which means men need pussy and kids to make them turn into a adult. For me, something like nazi Germany or Islam is ideal model of society.
>>59351082Are these drug dealers fucking 10/10, educated, wife-material women? If not then who cares? Most people are mediocre, so mediocre people have a larger dating pool.
>>59351125Funny thing, most are short or ugly asf but just selling drugs means they get that niche pussy
>>59351095>long as you're white, that means you doom an entire race of men into inceldomif white women have never reciprocated any interest and other races women are literally approaching you I see no reason to not throw the 14 words straight in to the trashbin.
>>59342029>being ugly, a virgin, a loser + unhealthy, fat/skeleton, lazy, undisciplined>being ugly, a virgin, a loser + healthy, buff, active, disciplined>haha dude self-improvement is a meme because you cannot literally reach perfection so why even tryFat cope
>>59351215all relationships are transactional but transactional relationships aren't very satisfying. you really might as well just get an escort at that point. less headaches
>>59351212Not him, but they literally do LMAOIn my city lives a 28 year old neet drug dealer who lives with his momHe constantly bangs hot 18 year old students from well off houses
>>59351059That's not what I meant. I didn't mean "become friends with them so you can fuck them" I meant actually getting to know people , making sure you're a likable person in general. You're viewing women as a goal, not as people with their own wishes, desires, personalities etc. and the possibility of just being friends with one hasn't even crossed your mind. This is why you're still a khv. It has nothing to do with being fit or having a good job, It has everything to do with being a likeable person who people can consider their friend.
>>59351019>tested when you were 10get tested as an adult. not saying the result will be any higher this time, just saying you're obsessed with a number that is in NO WAY valid. tests for 10 year olds are to see if you're on track to become retarded or a genius. average results don't mean anything, they point at a wide corridor of possible outcomes. the take-away from an average result at age 10 should be "don't worry about it, there's no problem in this area". kind of ironic that it had the opposite effect on you and convinced you you couldn't achieve what you wanted.I'm not saying you can study anything and become good at anything. I'm also accutely aware of my own limitations while studying comp sci. in my case the constant obstacle is my extremely negative attitude towards school-like learning. I procrastinate until it gets dangerous, then hate every minute of the work because it's obviously stressful in that context of heading towards some deadline way too fast.any way, if you think you tried your best and you're still failing then think about what to do instead. what are your options now?
>>5935108515k is expensive? JFL at you.
>>59351101>listening to your folksSerial killers have higher smv than everyone in this thread.
>>59351272There is a pandemic going on.My only other option is being a neet.
>>59351262>18 year old students from well off housesAnon, I said educated and wife-material. Not generic 18 year-old rich thots.
>>59351301Nigger dont u listen to your folks ever in ur life? I could tell them to fuck off but me being a cheap fuck, I dont wanna spend money to move out. I was told to study hard, ignore girls and once you get a high paying job, focus on women
>>59351307>There's a pandemic going on!>Stay at home!>Wear the mask!
>>59342029self improvement is masturbation, now self destruction...
>>59351404Hi /pol/I mentioned it because right now the economy is the worst ever since the last 100 years.
>>59346884What degree did you try to get? Ever considered trying something easier (e.g. social science instead of physics) or if uni isn't for you, how about learning a trade? That will earn you more than most degrees anyway. Plus you can start you own business after a few years and make even more. Especially considering how hard working you are, there is no reason you shouldn't excel. I'm relatively high IQ but lazy as shit and I sometimes wish I could trade some IQ points for +1 standard deviation in conscientiousness. At least you don't constantly feel like your potential is going to waste. Point is we are never truly satisfied with who we are, so we might as well make the best of it and stop whining.
>>59351440Too late at 27.
>>59351263Its a 2 way street bud, I could be the nicest and joyful person ever but when no one respocraites to my advances, hard to keep going on. If I make friends with a girl, ill also be put in the friend zone cuz women have many options. My experiences proved this unfortunately. I really dont think most guys who get laid follow your advice, fuckbois or sandniggers for example do the opposite and it works, seems a bit weak to me.
>>59351307there are a lot of jobs that you do some kind of training for, not college. I don't know what it's called in english but the majority of jobs require something less prestigious than a bachelor's degree. maybe you have a bit of tunnel vision.
>>59351435wah wah wahget a job NEETliterally just work you pathetic nerd, don't be scared of a meme virus, I've already had it and I feel great.
>>59345345Good news for me then
>>59351465Bullshit, the only thing 27 is too late for is becoming a professional athlete. Any other boundary is grounded solely in your own defeatism and has nothing to do with reality.
>>59342029yes and noDo it in small steps, make it ahabit to spend a little time every day that you almost won't feel it.Don't spend all your time on chasing things other people tell you to, as "self improvement" often means just that. Chase those you deem important yourself.
>>59351401No my mom kicked me out at 15 and I lived with my dad who give the usual "give them a firm handshake" and "just bee confident". It's all BS by the time you have enough money to get a women she's already had 30 dicks.
>>59345098>when the time was ripe, deliver a knife into your back.He sounds like a real Brute.
>>59345098sounds like he's based
>>59351508go back to pol you 17 year old idiot
>>59351273His point is your too high inhib to do anything besides post soijacks and cry
>>59351803I've already had a rhinoplasty and plan for more after covid restrictions lift. Keep projecting you dumb faggot.
>>59345098>he got into all the lookism stuffHe's lucky. I got surgery and all it did was make my BDD worse because I didn't get the exact result I wanted.
>>59345355I think its to get good jawline or something idk
>>59351901>>59351763Based flyover doom metel reference, great band
>>59350252I'm 5'8, grew up in a literal trailer park and I assure you giving up because you weren't born perfect is the gayest, most retarded way to guarantee you will never get anywhere in life.
>>59346823I love this website
>>59349308There no way, do you know what your IQ is? You may have a learning disorder if its this bad.
>>59349079Everyone knows being fat is unhealthy but when you're raised on a shit diet of sugar cereal, soda and potato chips, are never told how to eat healthy, and never got into sports because your parents also hate sports, then getting fit isn't that easy. Find me a 12 year old that has the self-determination and will to break away from their own upbringing with enough time to improve into high school. Most adults can't even do this.All the above sets you up to be a fat socially inept person in high school, when the most critical social developments normally happen.Anyone that carries all the above baggage past like 22 is obviously a loser faggot who deserves his own misery, but give the guy's younger self a break.