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/fraud/ - too lazy to make up an edition edition

Before asking your stupid beginner questions (yes, they are stupid), make sure to read ALL OF the r/steroids wiki:
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

>Reddit link
yeah, fuck off

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual. or see CCFC's handy faggotry guide.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

ABSOLUTELY no source talk.

This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.

Don't ask us to help you schedule your pinning dosages. Use https://www.steroidplotter.com/

If you're going to ask a beginner question, make sure to include:
- age
- bf%
- time spent training

previously on tribulus terrestis general: >>56688769
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>>56720057
heating up a pin and my injection site. can't wait to bury that metal inside me ooo baby
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is IF/meal timing/starvation all bullshit?

If we take test and t3 then our hormones should be stable non-stop and it should be purely CICO right?
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Thinking of running an experiment, I’ve cruised on just Test E before but I want to try out adding in another compound,

I’ve always been shy to use dhb because of the pip and how bad that would feel especially if I’m having to inject so bad however that doesn’t seem so bad if I’m only injecting 1ml a week of it.

Thinking of doing 125test and 100dhb for a cruise that’s gonna probably last a while. I don’t really mind growing much as I’m pretty content with my size: however, I want to develop my muscle maturity, get a bit drier, and have better conditioning without having to lose much of the mass i developed during this current. Going more for that recomp effect currently at 215lbs wouldn’t mind dropping like 15lbs.

I also have a source that does a 75/25 dhb/primo brew so might use that instead for shits and giggles.
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>>56720454
>is it bullshit?
>starvation
yes
>IF
yes
>meal timing
no but it accounts for very little of effective results and if you're asking this question I can guarantee you need to fix other shit first before thinking about fixing this

>hormones should be purely CICO right?
there's more to just hormones involved, this solves part of the problem but wont stop you from looking like shit if you go full pepega and literally starve yourself

>>56720719
where did this dhb pip meme come from? i homebrew my own and I've never had this problem the few times I've run it

that being said not a fan of DHB, think its overrated
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>>56720057
HELLO AMATEUR HERE
so i know source talk is not allowed so im just gonna say it like this
is a site starting with S and ending with ify a good place to buy???
and i have a couple more questings if you guys would be so kind to anwser
im thinking of pinning 150mg test e/a week and was wondering if i will need AI after the cycle is done? i don't think i will since its a rather small dose but what do you think? oh yes and how many vials do i need to do 1cycle?
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>>56720454
"starvation mode" is one of the most harmful bullshit thing spread in the nutrition/fitness industry, yes. IF is not bullshit (I guess it depends what you mean by bullshit though) and hormones are a lot more complex than CICO. CICO is pretty much exclusively for weight loss/gain, macros matter for quality muscle gain/fat loss and insulin sensitivity is a big deal. you also have to remember that the >O< part of CICO is greatly influenced by your body and it's not as simple as using some random TDEE calculator on the internet. if you're actually interested, you should check out /fast/, the op usually has some literature about fasting.

>>56721516
dhb doesn't stay in solution at medium-high concentrations so to avoid people having to pin 4ml at once, sources often brew it at higher concentrations using guaiacol or various other supersolvents, which does cause monster pip. it's not that bad at the concentrations it naturally holds at (usually about 100mg/ml ish) though.
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>>56721614
I've never been let down there. Us domestic Is 2 or 3 weeks
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>>56721614
1) quality wise yes, price wise no, it's extremely expensive if you're american and the shipping times are atrocious.
2) 150mg/week is not a cycle.
3) you don't know what AI is, you probably mean PCT, do more research
4) do some math, it's not that hard.
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>>56721614
Also I don't understand doing anything less than 500 mg for 8 weeks.
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>>56721716
im from europe
1.okay if its not a cylce what is it? i just want to know what high test feels like
3.ai is the thing that blocks estrogen though right? i watched some yt videos and they said that you should buy incase you get side-effects
4. the math isn't the problem its that i don't get what it says on the vial it just says 10 ml x 250 mg/ml so im guessing this means that htis is enough for 10weeks of 250mg/a week?
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Anyone keto bulking here? Muscles flattened but growing, up 7 lbs, my piss smells like radioactive cheeseburgers, tapering my test dose up and so far i have zero bloat.
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>>56721812
it's basically just being on TRT for a short period of time. yes, AI is what "blocks estrogen" (in a very simple and not completely accurate way) but it's used during the cycle, not after. what comes once you're done is called post cycle therapy, or PCT.

a vial is 10ml, if it's 250mg/ml it means you have 10ml of 250mg/ml, or a total of 2500mg in the vial.
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>>56721812
also read the fucking wiki in the OP.
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How often should I pin test c at 500mg a week?
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>>56721812
I'll use some ball park figures.
lets say your free test is at 400. a cycle of 500mg test per week would stop you producing the 400, but also add 3000 in.

you're talking about adding in about a quarter the recommended starter dose, which is already quite low compared to what most people run once they know what they're doing.

so maybe you shutdown your natural production of 400 and replace it with 1300. the 1300 is gonna be fluctuating between injections so really you aren't getting much of a benefit. but it will still cause the shutdown (probably). so the post cycle therapy will put you at below 100 and that will probably be a big an impact as the cycle put on in the first place.

estrogen is required after the cycle to help stimulate the production of testosterone after shutdown. you want to use something that specifically inhibits gyno during that period so you get no permanent effects from the bad balance of estro/test. nolva would be the usual choice for that. personally i find its quite liver toxic unless i take it with a milk thistle tablet but maybe thats just me.

i use AI during the cycle because the extra testosterone metabolises in to estrogen.

one vial is 10ml. you probably want to inject 1ml at a time if you're aiming for 500mg per week. and you do that twice a week.
10 weeks would be 20ml.

it doesnt have to be exactly 3.5 days between injections. 3days then 4 days is fine.
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>>56721884
>>56721907
if its 2500mg in there and i pin 300mg a week
i don't understand how often and how much should i pin in a week
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>>56721957
damn that sound complicated... so what ai would you recommend? if im gonna do this i want to be as efficient as possible
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>>56722038
i dont take AI to protect my testosterone, i take ai to stop my estrogen getting too high.

there's lots of guides on how to detect if your estrogen is too low or too high. it effects your dick health a lot, especially if it gets too low. but if it gets too high, i can get the sudden urge to cry at sad movies and mostly i feel gyno symptoms. aromasin for keeping your estrogen low. nolva for preventing gyno. some people might be extra sensitive to gyno so instead of crashing their estro really low, they might use nolva on cycle.
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>>56721726
He wants to replace
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>>56721875
keto is a meme
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>>56722038
Recommend that you go back to 6th grade and learn how to deal with fractions, ratios, and algebra.

Then read the wiki as if you intended to take responsibility for your own health using the information contained within. Understanding that if you fuck up your doctor will not want to deal with your dumb ass and evem if he does he will fuck it up, so you are on your own.

Finally, once you've grown to a point you are capable of understanding what you want, whats at stake, and what it takes to not fuck up, pin 3 g/wk of tren e and leave humanity behind
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>>56722158
some people can just never learn maths.

when i used to work in laboratories, at the start of the day the first thing was always to make a 1:1 mix of pbs solution with distilled water.

the guy that had been there for 7 years still used a calculator to check 50ml of water plus 50ml of pbs was a 100ml 1:1 mix.
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>>56722158
fuck off faggto i had cancer for 3 years and almost lost a leg sorry if my math is not pristine
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>>56722191
Dont get me wrong, my math is weak, but lol holy shit
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>>56722247
So what, were you like 8 years old? Wtf does that have to do with canceling units you sub 80 IQ failure?
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>>56722247
Well did you lose your mind as well?
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>>56722247
>cancer

In that case you should skip the roids and go straight to HGH to keep your reg cells outpacing those cancer cells
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>>56722247
if you had chemo and shit then your natural levels might be a bit fucked up in the first place.

its recommended to get some blood tests done in advance so you know your natural levels, that way you can tell if you're levels recovered well. i didnt bother, and a lot dont. but there are labs that allow you to pay to do that. might be like £100 or so, i dunno.
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>>56722299
>heh you don't know how much to pin in a week heh what are you like low iq?
>>56722316
yes
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>>56722341
>if you had chemo and shit then your natural levels might be a bit fucked up in the first place.
yeah they were but i beleive they're back to normal considering im making good gains again and just genuenly feeling good
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>>56722347
No one's gonna spoon-feed you here; read the wiki and then ask questions
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>>56722247

Lol sorry to roast you bro. To answer your question, take the dose you want in mg and divide it by the mg/mL concentration of the juice to get the amount of fluid you need to injext in mL.

Eg: suppose i want to inject 300 mg/wk and want to do every other day. 7days in a week / 2 days between inj =3.5 times per week. You with me so far?

So at 300 mg/wk spread across 3.5 injections (divide 300 by 3.5) you get ~86 mg per injection.

So you want 86 mg and your juice is 250 mg/mL. You divide 86 by 250 and get ~.35 mL. So each injection you want .35 mL in your body.

I add an extra .05 for the stuff left in the barrel of the syringe, so .4 mL.

But seriously, study up bro. Good luck.
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500mg testosterone a week for 10 weeks

Or

400mg testosterone for 14 weeks?
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>>56721614
see you in the telegram bro
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>>56722547
Buy more test
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>>56722479
thank you
is there any difference between pinning 2 times and 3 times a week? i would prefer to do it 2 times
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>>56722588
w-what?....
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>>56722621
They have a telegram chat
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>>56722661
What happened to the discord?
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Ran 500 mg/wk at 15-18 % bodyfat. 5'10" 170 lbs with outline abs and slight vertical crease between them. I needed ~2.5 mg aromasin every other day.

I just cut down to somewhere around 10%, im 185 lbs and have a visible 6 pack without flexing in the morning. I am increasing my test to see at what point estro kicks in, so far im at 300 mg/wk, definitely moody, no nipple itch. I would have expected to need ai by now, increasing to 350 in a few days.

I know fat people need to run more ai than slender people, is this effect significant all the way to single digit body fat? Could i potentially get lean enough to run more than 500 mg/wk without an ai?
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>>56722675
idk wasn't around long enough for that. I don't keep up with all the messages either so if they're making one i missed the memo
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>>56722692
post progress pic.
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>>56722934
Would but im in the field and dont have it on my phone
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>>56722547
14mg of testosterone for 500 weeks
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>>56721614
damn they sell roids through shopify now niggas gettin bold
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I'm thinking about roiding for the first time with oxandrolone, since I've lost a lot of muscle mass during this quarantine. I've been traning for about 3 years and the gym reopened 2 weeks ago. I just want to get back to my old 10% bf with some decent muscle mass, using anavar only. What do you guys think?
Halp pls
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>>56723904
Does anyone have that picture of a guy in yoga pants with an obvious erection in between two little girls
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Is 200mg of test cyp per week worth cruising on long term?
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>>56724197
>caring about a plant that increases your natty test by 5ng/dl
wrong thread
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>>56724197
This approach to testosterone is like the jewish approach to money. Trying to nickel and dime a few values of testosterone eating aswaghanda tribulus and fenugreek is as boring as it is futile. The only methods of boosting test besides putting a needle in your arm worth pursuing are hiit, good resistance training and zinc supplementation. If you want a good way to increase natty test go longboard off the biggest hill in town
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>>56720057
Does anyone know if this is a good spot to inject?
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Does anyone know here if I can buy HGH from Greek pharmacy? I know you can buy shit like proviron, nolva and clomid there OTC from pharmacies but how about HGH??
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>>56724559
incredibly fucking gross
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>>56724620
I'm sorry man I've included a better shot of the area
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So I ran test e for a couple months about 5 years ago, was pretty good just gave me some shit acne that took me forever to get under control. Thinking about getting back into it, but I'm gonna get blood work so I know exactly what my free test is.

What's the best place to order a test from since I'm assuming online is cheaper, and how do I keep my skin gains on test?
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>Be me, in my 20s
>Go to see a doc about my chronic fatigue, sleepiness, and weak erections
>Check testosterone, it's normal
>"Well it must be something else, we'll keep working on this"
>3 years of checking and trying things and multiple docs later
>Nothing's working, even stimulants have little to no effect
>Everything keeps coming back normal
>Look at recent blood panel, testosterone is in 300s

Am I retarded for wanting to try TRT? The blood panel says total test needs to be under 200 to be considered low but a quick google search says I'm low by others' standards. I feel like I'm wasting my 20s by constantly being tired, even falling asleep at the gym, but my current doc says it's normal for people to feel tired and I'm expecting too much. But surely falling asleep while on a stimulant isn't exactly normal, right?

I know TRT is a life commitment but am I retarded for wanting to do a TRT-esque cycle and seeing if it does anything for my symptoms? I just hate wasting this time and money on various treatments and drugs.
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>>56725073
just inject heavy metal laden chinese mass manufactured powders like the rest of us and stop giving a fuck.

that extra 10 years you'd gain on your lifespan by not doing it is worthless if you sudoku from being a shitter anyway

but yes start with trt, try around 150mg/wk and move up or down as necessary. my sweet spot personally is 140/wk when im cruising
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>>56720057
>>56720057
Might be a stupid question but im gonna shoot.

28m test at 560ngml been feeling in a funk for a while now and just wondering if one shot of test would be enough to break me out of this funk? im willing to try anything but was thinking it might have to do with test.

Any advice would be appriciated
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>>56725099

I've no problem cutting down my lifespan 10 years if it meant actually living and not just trying to stay awake. I just am wondering if I'm retarded for wanting to try it vs sticking through with my docs and trying what they're suggesting, which right now is a cocktail of stimulants/SSRIs/vitamins.

Which honestly sounds more retarded to me compared to a little prickywicky every few days.
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>>56725150
My body fat is 17-18% been working out on an off since middleschool.
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>>56725150
your tes is normal and you'll likely be better off not being a 17-18% fatfuck
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Same question as last thread but fell asleep and now thred is ded.
6 ft 3, 240 lbs and 10-12%. Should I start running hGH? Will go to at about 3-4 iu. Already on hormonas ofcourse, got that question already.
Currrently running 600Test 200Tren.
Will bump tren over time.
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>>56725226
yea i know but i mean would it help? like is that even something you can do like one shot to get shit into gear?
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>>56725263
yes anon, but you might as well keep taking
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>>56725263
1) it would not
2) no
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>>56725293
keep taking what
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>>56725248
why tf not? post pictures
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>>56724559
don't know what's more gross your ass or your face
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>>56721614
I wouldn't buy gear from Spotify
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N-dGbKYYzI
>this dude's wife
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How do I stop cumming in my Hispanic maid?
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>>56720057
why no source talk? don't be a pussy
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>>56722692
idunno, maybe. my first blast i was running just to top of a very long bulk and i was getting fat. e2 was around 105 or so but i didn't use ai because i didn't have any negative symptoms. i cut down for my 2nd rather low and i was only at 60 and i was running test+deca so i don't know if i got better quality roids that time or it's because of the lower bf%
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>>56725333
Because shit's expensive
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>>56725512
And this one, bit bloated
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>>56725535
i wish i was just that "bloated"
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>>56725512
fuuuuaaaaaaaarkkkk
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>>56725073
Go to Titan medical, you can get a scrip over the phone/online. They basically hand them out. They offered me test when my levels came back at 700. Cost about 300 a month
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>>56725563
>>56726096
Thanks guys, but my question remains unanswered :p
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>>56726113
how much gear do you get?
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>>56726249
For that price a month it must be a gram a day, hot damn
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>>56726463
right? that seems a little obnoxious. but pharma grade + (I assume) access to physician advice and bloods does make the price a little easier to swallow
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>>56725178
>vs sticking through with my docs and trying what they're suggesting, which right now is a cocktail of stimulants/SSRIs/vitamins.
fuck that, run gear and get /fit/ you'll feel 100x better and be healthier
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>>56726491
Sure its pharma, but 3600 $ a year for what? 3 vials? And an occasional bloodtest? And I bet any extra you want to talk about the physician will be on the clock.
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>>56726606
This. Fuck SSRIs.
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homebrewed for the first time this evening, 10/10 would recommend, stupid easy guys. I did 20mls of test-e and mast-e, both at 250mg/ml, so 4 vials total. I blew out a syringe filter when I was doing the mast, so loss about 5ml, despite that no problems.


test-e raw is under $1/g, so a 10ml vial of 250mg/ml TE uses $2.50 worth of raw, your solvent/oil/vials/equipment costs will be more
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>>56726169
just do it? ChaseIron said it took his physique to the next level.
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>never had a gay thought in my life
>start taking test
>2 weeks in can’t stop thinking about pounding twink ass

Is this normal? I feel like I need a tranny hooker just to get it out of my system.
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>>56726113

if I were to go this route I'd rather buy it on my own and either privately keep the results to myself or tell my doc if I had some amazing turn around, rather than shill out 300/month unless I actually got regular blood work/gear to make 300/month worth it. shit's so cheap solo.
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>>56726710
My tren ace at 100 mg/ml and test E at 300 both cost me about 10 euro each, half of which are pre sterilized vials.
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>>56726742
>never had a gay thought in my life
>start nofap
>day 4 and any woman makes me want to fap
>twinks don't do anything for me
you're gay
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>>56726606
honestly I feel like gear and psychedelics will ultimately help me be a more whole person than SSRIs
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>>56726742
check progesterone
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>>56722692
>5'10
>170lb
>500mg a week

jesus christ, some roiders really are lazy
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Rate my second cycle? Currently on week 6 and the gains are great! Goals are strength and size

Week1-4: 750 test E/ Dbol 30 mg Ed
Week 5-8: 750 test E/ Mast E 400
Week 9-12: 750 test E/ mast E 400/ Dbol 50mg Ed
Week 13-16: 750 test E/ mast E 400
Week 17-18: 750 test E / mast E 400/ Dbol 70mg Ed
Week 19-20: 750 test / mast E 400

Then PCT
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>>56727286
why are you blasting this hard and long on your second cycle and why are you pcting? your balls are gonna be fried brah
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>>56727303
bitch what is wrong with you
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>>56722247
lmao dude you sound dumb as shit
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just ordered var and test what can I expect compared to sarms
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>>56726710
is it safe to brew in an apartment? where do you buy the equipment required for this stuff?
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>>56727347
why are you replying to everyone you mong
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>>56726491
Ya, they get you where you want to be, they normally give you test, hcg, and anything you need to estro. And your paying for it to be pharma, safe, done right, and it's legal
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>>56727301
It isn't that big of a blast? First cycle was 20 weeks too. I only blast once per year
I recovered just fine after my first cycle and I didn't even use HCG that time, which I am now.
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>>56727512
I hope they ban you bro
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I'm on day 9 of my first 500 test blast. I'm a little concerned about my lack of progress. I've noticed my arms and shoulders have had the most noticeable difference.

My rear delt rows, overhead press, curls, and tricep putdowns have progressed pretty well. My deadlift has had decent progress, but I might have been able to progress that fast natty for it.

But my bench hasn't really improved at all. It's kind of the same we when I got back into the gym a month ago, which didnt really go down during the several months I didnt bench. I haven't been able to squat yet because of PIP.

I'm just worried I'm doing something wrong. I was expecting I'd be adding like 10lbs every time I benched.
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>>56727524
it's pretty huge bro dont let the culture dictate your views toward dosage, base it on the literature

if you recovered within 120ish days you are genetically gifted
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>be pretty average pretty normal guy for the most part
>except I've had a bit of a sub and crossdressing fetish these past 5-6 years or so
>doesn't help that I have really good femboy genetics
>when I'm not horny I fucking hate it and feel disgusted
>end up almost going through with a "date" (getting fugged) with a guy from /soc/
>have a full on episode about it, really disgusted with self this time
>decide it's time to man up for real, no more fucking around, no more quitting, no more cheating on my diet and slimming down again just permabulk
>start eating big, drop almost $2k on a home gym, buy 50 lbs of brotein powder and a ton of magnesium, fish oil, vitamin D, etc.
>all is well for about two months, watching Hitler videos almost every day for spiritual motivation, envision myself leading my people into a new era of national pride and spiritual awakening
>been going to /fit/ for a few months now
>/fraud/ always has funny OP images so end up lurking
>realise that roiding isn't what I've been told by boomers and it's actually pretty legit if you do it right
>"h-haha, I should give this a try, what could go wrong?"
>get on 750mg of test and 80mg of anavar
>ffw to today, insanely horny 24/7, it's gotten to the point where I don't feel regret or shame because I'm never not horny
>fapping to degenerate fantasies >6 times a day
>it's gotten so bad that I even fap to the idea of dominating full on boy looking boy faced (but cute) twinks as well as being a femslut and getting dominated by Chad now, whereas previously I was only into the latter and the absolutely most feminine and passing traps/2d traps
And to think I was thinking about eventually doing 19nors in a future cycle. I will absolutely never fuck with roids again after this. I was gonna buy some mast as a finisher to my cycle after I got familiar with sides and how my body was handling the test, but there's no fucking way.
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>>56727760
>I'm on day 9
give it two weeks at least you momo. also wont be adding 10lbs to each time you bench LOL especially on just 500mg test. throw some dbol in there for some stupid strength.
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>>56727766
try caber and report back

also the mental image of a closeted tranny watching hitler videos for motivation really sent me anon, ty
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>>56727777
Thats good to know. I appreciate it.

I've got dbol on hand, but figured it'd be better to do a test only cycle the first time around.
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>>56727777
nice digits

is dbol better for strength than var? if so by how much?
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>>56727809
reported
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What steroid won't rape my cardio? I do boxing and the gains from EQ were very cool, now I want to try another cycle and hear you guys says Deca trumps EQ a lot. Now I'm wondering if it would be a good alternative, or what a good alternative could be. Didn't find much on the wiki.
Objective is bulk and at least maintain cardio, better if enhance it. Not concerned by weight classes, the street has no weight classes.
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>>56727797
no need to do just test for 1st cycle, that shits a meme. use 15-20mg of dbol a day preworkout for 4 weeks minimum your strength will explode after a few days on it, but watch your estro make sure you have AI for estro sides and nolva incase you start make tiddies as dbol is notorious for this.
>>56727807
never used var but dbol is godly for strength, better then adrol imo and it makes you feel good while adrol makes you feel like dogshit.
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>>56727791
>try caber
Are you trying to give me AIDS, anon? Why would you do this to me?
Not a closeted tranny though, I'd never "transition" because that shit is a meme and a scam and I don't want to live as a pretend woman abomination. And this duality is more common than you'd think.
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>>56727876
It lowers prolactin faggot, he probably read diagonally and saw your concern for 19-nors which prolactin sides are countered by caber.
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>>56727907
I know what it's for, but the meme is that it makes you insanely horny so I thought that's what he meant, like trying to pour gasoline on the fire.
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>>56727917
what is this a pic for manlets
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>>56727925
Horny or not your desire to dominate another man is probably unrelated. Didn't know about the meme though, thought it just brought you to normal horny levels as opposed to tanked ones due to prolactin.
Do you have a girlfriend? That might solve your problems
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>>56727948
It might just be that it cancels the prolactin sides out and then the true power of tren comes out, idk.
>your desire to dominate another man is probably unrelated
Unrelated to what? Obviously (highly) increased sexual desire and compulsive fapping will make fetishes difficult to control, and chasing more and more degenerate dopamine highs is also a real thing.
>Do you have a girlfriend?
Yes I do and it doesn't really help it just makes me feel worse.
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Feel like shit l, look like shit, Fat, insulin resistant. Go to doctor get T tested. Literally 29ng/dL. Dr wants to give me BioTE pellets. Should I go that route? Or leave humanity behind? 24 years old, 360.3 #, 6’4, trained for football in college for 5 years and haven’t been in the gym since hence the major weight gain.
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>>56728004
>Literally 29ng/dL
Lab fucked up your measurements, it's probably 290ng/dl and they measured in one of those amerilard measurements that's 1/10th of ng/dl for some reason. It's pretty much impossible to have that little test. If you want actual advice, literally just pin some sustanon every week
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>>56728002
I meant that it's a power move to dominate other men, and you can see it with monkey ending fights by the strong sodomising the weak. The increase in Testosterone should make you more ambitious and more competitive, thus this effect is exacerbated and you project on chads asserting dominance. Unless you project as the twinks, in which case repent faggot.
I asked for the girlfriend because you can probably keep that in check by making babies with her, also stop watching porn it's degenerate.
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>>56728047
Gonna get retested here soon because that’s what I though. So I’ll probably update once I get the new results.
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Anyone know if the site with uk in the name is legit?
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>>56727854
reported
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Who uses the fax nowadays? Is the quality worth the price?
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>>56721812
>EU
Go to eroids and select number 2 site on rankings, they ship from Netherlands
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>>56728068
That kinda makes sense. I want both, it's split like 50/50% of the time. Before it was more like 20/20/60 between, dominating traps, generic attraction to women, and wanting to be a femboy slut. Now women are completely out of the picture.
>repent faggot
I'm sorry, alright?
>making babies
We're not the same race and we both think race mixing is a terrible idea.
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>>56727766
bro 19nors are progestogens. progesterone increases homosexual behavior. look it up
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>>56728187
Are we talking of the best team ever?
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>>56727363
yeah totally safe, you're just dissolving the powdered raw with a bit of solvent into grapeseed oil and warming it, everything can be bought online through med lab supply places
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>>56728234
saw you're on test, how's your e2? can affect progesterone if low. if you're taking an ai with the var it might be lowering your e2
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>>56728261
but anon I'm not good at math
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>>56728268
excessively lowering your e2 I mean
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>>56728281
>when the triple-dosed tren kicks in
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>>56727766
>watching Hitler videos almost every day for spiritual motivation, envision myself leading my people into a new era of national pride and spiritual awakening
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>>56728460
i just noticed how white fraud is. is it just fraud? is it fit? is it 4chan? where does the whiteness end.
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>>56727856
You think so? Should I just start taking a 25mg dbol every day 30 min before each workout? Stay on 500 test with that?

How long should I stay on dbol?

I've got aromasin on hand for AI, and nolvadex for pct.

What kind of dosages and time lengths would you recommend?
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I just started experimenting with pregnenolone about a week ago.

Holy shit this stuff is making me constantly horny.

I've done steroids in the past, and with the exception of maybe tren, they never really improved my libido that much.

I'm 42 and preg has made my libido go from reactive to active, like when I was in my 20s. I could easily do nofap for a month since age 35, but now I constantly want to jerk off and get boners every time I see a scantily clad women on here.

I must have been deficient in preg or one of the downstream hormones that it converts into. I've tried DHEA in the past and that didn't do shit for me. Maybe it's the pregnenolone itself, or progesterone or the neurosteroid allopregnenolone.

I'm taking around 25 to 50mg, but I am in the process of finding the optimum dose, less might be more.

I've heard that some people on trt can get big improvements in libido and wellbeing when adding pregnenolone.

Anyone else have experience with this compound?
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>>56728565
I would assume an online fitness blog would be fairly diverse. I think that's just the bad thing about anonymity though, since it's kind of a safe space for bad people, racists, and incels.

I've never met anyone like that other guy in real life that I know of. That's not the kind of people most normal and level headed people would associate with.
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>>56720057
>CCFC's handy faggotry guide.

where can i find this
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>>56728827
Ask and you shall receive.
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>>56728741
You'd be surprised how many crypto nazis there are. A lot of dudes I know are racist as fuck, and some unconsciously have quite far right views. Open nazis are rare tho. The old school bike gangs aren't as prolific as they used to be, and most stupid regards who brought attention at themselves got quickly bagged by law enforcement.
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>>56728978
That's what you get when you let people with different cultures in a country. At first it all seems humane and nice but then people start realizing these cultures can't live together. Nazis are repressed and you're told how to think, so people just bottle it up and wait for the right time.
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I'm 9 days in to 500mg/w test e, is it possible to have low estro without taking any AI? I'm reading r/steroids e2 experience thread and the things these guys describe sound like I have low e. Could it just be an adjustment period since I just started? Am I just retarded?
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how do you use actovegin?
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>>56729017
Lots of low E2 and high E2 symptoms overlap, do a blood test or you'll be shooting in the dark.
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>>56728883

thanks
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>>56728978
That's really sad
>>56729007
You're a fuckin moron. Be better.
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>>56721716
This is a noob question, but I'm positive I've heard of people using AI as PCT?
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>>56721957
Advice AND test boost thots. Best namefag on /fraud/ bar none!
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>>56721984
1.2ml a week. You could pin that in one go or two times 0.6ml 3.5 days apart
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>>56722547
5g testosterone for 1 week
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>>56728234
>>56728268
>>56728291
I have a tiny bit of gyno from puberty so I went with the safer option and started taking 25mg of exemestane a week after my second pin (250 e3.5d). Shouldn't var indirectly increase e2 by lowering shbg thus leading to more test being up for grabs by aromatase? Either way, I don't think low e2 is an issue because I got puffy nipples after 2.5 weeks, so I started taking 20mg of nolva ed and it went away. Unless the gyno was progesterone related, but that seems kinda far fetched with just test+var. On a side note, do serms even work against progesterone gyno?
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>>56724948
Sorry bud, no source talk. How did you control the acne previously?
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>>56725178
Try it. If you dont like it you can come off it.
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>>56725331
Test, you faggot. The thing you originally posted about.

No, taking a single injection of test would be stupid. Test has a half life meaning the levels in your body start decaying immediately when you take it. For that reason you normally need to pin for about 3-4 weeks for test to reach its desired level and even then it's a saw tooth pattern with levels peaking when you pin and falling between injections.

A single shot of test would give mild, short term benefits followed by a crash before eventually returning to your original levels.
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>>56725497
>stop

But why?
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>>56729007
>these cultures can't live together.
there are some toxic beliefs, but i mostly put that down to any major religion. but the nazi stuff to me is the embodiment of intolerance that prevents people getting along. its not always nazi-xenophobia stuff. there's always going to be something for demagogues to target to build support through negative intergration.

I love the fact that london is multicultural but national pride looks weird.

>>56729204
people get way too uppity about namefagging. didnt r9k previously have everyone anon but also have some trip automatically on everyone? I preferred that. not so much about imposters, just generally being aware its the same person
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>>56728108
I use a site with uk in the name. Is it one that is open for business all hours, if you catch my drift?
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Any opinions on Modafinil or nootropics?
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>>56728978
It's also backlash from the way the politically correct progressive media has polarised the spectrum of political thought. For years they have been equating patriotism with nationalism, traditionalism with regression, a desire for law and order with fascism, chivalry with sexism, border control and/or a personal preference for people your own race/culture with racism, and proponents of the traditional nuclear family with homophobia.

Tell somebody they're a racist, sexist, transphobic islamophobic bigot enough times and the words lose their meaning. Instead of shaming that person into changing their views, they just think "huh, well, racism/sexism/LGBTQWTFphobia must not be so bad, then. Those KKK must not be such bad guys if we align on all these points. Lemme log into Stormfront, sounds like these people may be kindred spirits"

Basically it's the ultimate own goal for progressive liberalism. They polarise the opposition into becoming more extreme, which then justifies the far left alarmist rhetoric.
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anyone experience hair thinning from steroid use?
What was it like? How much hair were you losing? When did you notice it and how did you realise you were losing more than normal
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Can you fraud until you gain your desired size, than stop frauding and maintain "naturally"?
Or do you start losing mass once you stop?
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I have researched a lot but there isn’t a lot of good info on needles.

I plan to buy 25g 1in for drawing and injecting. I want to easily be able to count the lines on the syringe so I can accurately dose. Are there any syringes that have the lines larger or numbers written on all the small lines?
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Anyone here used mk 677 during bulk? On top of your injectables and orals of course. Is it worth the money?
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>>56731518
its cheap as shit, not much sides but the gains are negligible. great for the hunger increase plus hair growth/hair health and my skin got real good on it
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>>56729125
>This retard trying to shit up fraud again
Go back to soc you fucking cuck.
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>>56731537
Im going to end up taking over 2g of gear so i was thinking about something not as toxic to for some extra gains. What dose you were taking? I've heard from people that 10mg is enough.
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>>56731231
diet/muscle exertion/hormones/current level of muscle mass
all 4 stack up together to determine how much you grow, or shrink, in terms of muscle mass. the so the first 3 sort of determine where you would plateaux. you dont plateux quick though, it would just be slower and slower progress.

so frauding could get you to the point and past a 'natty limit' for that amount of exertion and diet. if you go past it, then you'll shrink down to where ever you would plateux, and that might be quite a slow thing, depending on how far you go beyond it.
thats kinda simplified though.

There is a very long term effect of testosterone on your muscles and stuff though so you probably would never drop back down to a point where it would be the same as if you hadnt frauded. i dont know how significant that difference is.
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>>56731689
Gotcha, thank you very much for the detailed response.
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>>56729659
>people get way too uppity about namefagging.

Uh yeah because you're not talking about steroids you off topic faggot.
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>>56728587
25mg might be too much esp for first cycle. stick to 15-20mg you dont need more then that. 1 hour before workout. keep the test at 500mg.

stay on dbol no longer then 5 weeks.

I can recommend AI/nolva doses as everyone aromatizes differently, you will have to keep a close eye on it. high estro is much preferable then crashed estro so dose carefuly. only use nolva if you nipples get hot/itchy or you wake up one day with double Ds.
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>>56728281
you deserve to die then
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>>56731584
25mg but split dose one in the morning one at night. i got no sides other than the hunger and some strength gains but i was running test anyway. i've heard some people get headaches on it which is the reason you should split your dose
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went from 175lbs 15% bf to 200lbs 12% bf on a 6 weeks of tren ace/test.. still have a few weeks of my cycle left going to run test/dbol for another 6 weeks to try and hit 210lbs. are my results considered decent so far?

btw tren fucked with my head so much, will never run it again.
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>>56731463
Don't know about numbers on every line, and larger line would just make them imprecise.
Take Luer Lock syringes and needles in 25g 1in (injecting) and 20g 1in (drawing) to make it more convenient. Don't forget the alcohol wipes.
>>56731231
The thing is you'll end up loosing in mass and strength when you come off, many people stop lifting between cycles as it's a joke. Besides PCT usually makes you feel like shit and weak as fuck until your testosterone bounces back.
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>>56727838
Bump.
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>>56732068
Pics cuz impossible
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>>56731584
>over 2g of gear
You could probably do with half

Also I use 10 mg in cruise+maintain, 20 mg in bulk blast.
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>>56731463
>I want to easily be able to count the lines on the syringe so I can accurately dose. Are there any syringes that have the lines larger or numbers written on all the small lines?
Have you tried not being retarded?
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>>56731518
>Anyone here used mk 677 during bulk? Is it worth the money?
Yes, for a bulk I'd say so. Water retention gets higher and hunger goes through the roof and satiation is much lowered. Especially good for a dirty bulk when you need to pound down the pizzas and milkshakes and just make as much gains as possible in a 4-6 week timeframe
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>>56732222
checked
>impossible
so I assume Im doing good in this case? not taking any pics but my pre cycle physique was shit so it was easy to put on the weight, was a weak skelly before this now it looks like I actually lift weighed self at gym yesterday 200lbs exactly and I can see my abs now. thanks anon feeling happy :)
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Anyone have experience with msten? Thinking about throwing it in my cycle towards the end.
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>>56732359
>was a weak skelly before this now it looks like I actually lift
Why roid then? Could have gained that easy natty in a year and not fucked with your endocrine system.
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>>56732068
Big if true. What was your tren dosage, also what was your diet like? Maintenance calories or above maintenance? I’m starting tren and hoping I will recomp.
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>>56732419
I know, and agree I could have done this natty, albeit a lot slower. only reason I do cycles now is because I used trt for low test anyways so said fuck it, would have been on trt for life so I just blast and cruise. dont care too much about my health desu.

>>56732433
400mg trenA/300mg testC per week. ate in surplus at about 3500-4000 calories a day with lots of carbs and protein. I have a very fast metabolism, did a small fast recently and lost some fat to get to what a few people have told me is 12% BF. my chest and arms blew up, I laugh at my precycle photo I really looked like ass. 6 foot tall if anyone wondering.
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>>56727838
deca will cause you to retain a lot more water, which could impact your blood pressure and cardio.

If EQ did you good man, do another cycle of it. EQ increases your RBC by a lot, which carries over to cardio gains. Maybe do like test/deca/eq at 250/250/500 or something for like 16+ weeks.
>>56731463
Leur Lock BD syringes and BD needles.
>>56731518
I've been taking between 10-20mg since November. I'd say about 12.5mg is the sweet spot. Sides are manageable, some people dont experience the water retention. It does however take a while to see the benefits. Good for bulk and cuts. If you want more GH, then going with CJC+GHRP2/6 is what you want. I take my MK before bed. So it helps me sleep through this tren blast.
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>>56732359
you're claiming to have increased over 4.5lbs of muscle per week

i think a natty would expect maybe half a pound a week. I don't think steroids would do much more than double that, let alone 9x it.
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>>56732652
Exactly my point. 4.5 lbs of muscle a week and dropping fat, he is living in a phantasy world.
It is kinda cute.
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>>56720719
Mast E is a great addition
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>>56732068

post body right now
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>>56732652
>>56732677
>water retention
Ever heard of it? Every time i start pinning tren ace im getting ~2lbs per day for 5-7 days straight. It goes away just as fast after dropping the compound.
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>>56732634
Eh, right. Didn't even think about stacking two compounds on top of testosterone.
Thanks sludge
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>>56732677
im leaning towards lying over delusional, but its 4chan so who knows.

bf% estimates are notoriously scattered though. my cut is defined by what id like my abs to look like, and i guess thats 9%bf ish but the actual figures dont matter to me so much.

>>56732696
i think tren dries people out. maybe you got nand instead? but yeh, te 4.5lb increase being all muscle doesnt sound right.
i was calculating mass change after removing body fat.
however if it was water retention id expect that to make the bf% estimate higher and skew the results to look worse, not better.
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>>56732730
welcome my dude.I hope your next cycle/blast goes great!
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>>56732686
Ill post a before and current pic later if thread is still alive. not at computer now with my before pic saved, dont have any mirrors take take a pic now anyways.

keep in mind my BF% were just guesstimates from people I know, they could be totally off but I do look quite a lot different at 200 vs 175.
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>>56721984
You're clearly too dumb to be doing steroids no offence dude.
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>>56728565
kill urself spic
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>>56727766
u gay nigga
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>>56727766
maybe don't do a full 750mg and drop the girlroids
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>>56727766
I'm a closeted faggot and gear has made my celibate lifestyle almost intolerable.
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started hgh in march
2iu, 5 days on 2 off
first kit was chineese, not sure if was legit.
2nd kit is german "ugl pharma" barcodes and all that.
i have noticed zero fatloss.
with that being said, i started hgh when gyms closed as a way to kind of stay lean, recomp. i have lifted very minimal and lost plenty gains due to gyms being closed. also gained a gut.
i thought maybe the gh (also on trt) would help stay lean. i got to a point it's the most out of shape i've been in so getting back into high intensity cardio and bodyweight shit.
not sure if i have a question, but if anyone who actually has growth experience.granted it's only been 4 months which is very early to see any effects anyway.
any hgh bros out there
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>>56729659
just dont use your name it isnt like you post anything of value anyway
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>>56734081

fraud gens years ago used to be namefag city and i loved it.
i'm actual friends with a few still.
it makes sense here.
one namefag/trip who dropped massive roidpills was ifbb status. even though a lot of what he would share was stuff i personally will never use/go that hard, i learned so much
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>>56733999
holy shit you're a moron
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>>56734164
we've never had an ifbb competitor in /fraud/.
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I suspect I have a naturally low T level. What is a good way to tell more concretely besides a test?
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Every day I pray for masT to return on his chariot of autistic fire to drive out the twinks in this thread with his insane ramblings.
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>>56732991
T-thanks
>>56732992
Too late, if I drop the test lower now it will just fuck with me and stall my gainz.
>girlroids
It's literally the best dry steroid. Lowers shbg, very anabolic, no hairloss whatsoever, no gyno whatsoever, no liver toxicity, decently tissue selective, no need for pinning. 300mg of test/w + 20mg of oxandrolone ed builds more muscle than 600mg of test/w.
>>56733002
Let's make out. I'll kiss your collarbones and bite your neck gently.
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>>56734202
this was 2010-2013 days
he never outright said it, but after months of communication i have a good idea who it was.
by no means a top olympia guy, but ifbb.
he was a slav living in miami.
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>>56734081
i guess your options are cry harder or report me to the mods

>>56733999
yeh i should of put total test not free test. the figures arent meant to illustrate the principal anyway.
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Y'all are too emotion.
Everyone needs to now take max dosage of accutaine and some tren.
Let the autism rage soothe you.
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>>56731580
What the fuck is a soc
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>>56734228
there isn't one. go get bloodwork.
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>>56735384
/fit/ but its /soc/ial
i think its where you go to make friends lol
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18 years old and i just know i have low t. i have a doctors appointment tuesday, and they will do a full blood work up. will this include measuring testosterone or will i have to have a separate test for it? i want to bulk on gear to get laid
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>>56735649
up the dose
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>>56728723
Where do you get this stuff? Is it "illegal"?
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>>56732222
Just hopping on i had the same gains just from water weight, 25lb in 3-4 weeks.
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>>56729386
oh you know what you're right im thinking of oral only cycles

I've heard ralox is selective for breast tissue which means it would compete for estrogen in those tissues and theoretically lower estrogenic effects
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>>56730135
>thinks liberalism is far left
wew lad
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>>56736286
Their label, not mine. In practice they're some of the least liberal fuckers you could meet.
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Asked on plebbit but got nothing but all I got was nooo u gnna die insulin gnna kill you fucking normies

thinking of dropping androgens completely (except TRT) and just running GH 4-6 plus lantus 20. Can I expect steroid-like results?
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>>56737107
you're not gonna get much here either, hgh+insulin is a very advanced (and pricy) combo. I've been on for 4 years now and I haven't even touched hgh yet, much less insulin. this thread is mostly on the beginner side when it comes to PEDs, don't expect too much.
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>>56737107
obviously androgens have side effects but im interested to know why you'd prefer to drop them and do hgh-insulin instead.

If you're female or worried about hair loss perhaps the choice makes sense? or maybe if you have heart problems

Im using hgh for my cut so im not stacking insulin on top. as with what the other guy said, few people here mess around with hgh because of the price.

i think insulin is very anabolic but that anabolism is steered towards body fat a lot more than other anabolics. i suspect you wouldnt see as much benefit in terms of muscle mass compared to 1g of testosterone per week but I'm just basing that on stuff i read online.
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>>56737107
that's where i'm at.
i realized the tradeoff with running heavy cycles. great results but the sides and cycles can feel like it's run its course. especially as you grow older and focus on health and longevity.
you sound like a coach steve bro.
i'm at a point now with a lot of stress with work, can't gym as much, can't come in with roid sides, ect.
as i mentioned above i switched to trying just test and hgh. i have NOT been training often since gyms closing, thought the hgh would help staying lean see >>56733967
but i think test, gh, slin makes sense because it's all natural hormones in the body.
as far as slin - get a coach for the first few months. coach steve seems good. i sub to bostons forum and he's very responsive.
but i suggest having training wheels with slin at first. never ran it before.
as far as gh, i have yet to see a significant change. granted only a few months and training has gone down.
sorry i'm all over the place. lots of adderal and playing cod kek
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>>56737286
>stims
>hgh
>roids
but not much fat loss?

I'm doing the same an averaging about 1.5lbs a week, with some increase in my lifts at the same time.
what's your calorie intake? I was kinda confused about how hgh should influence my calorie intake. Dorian Yates said it basically allowed him to eat whatever and not put on fat, however I'm trying to do as much cardio as possible and stay at under 1000kcal per day.
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>>56737363
>what's your calorie intake?
fuck knows. i'm all over the place. the past year i moved to a new city, new job with very high demands. my training has gone down, i come home tired will have ice cream and go to bed some afternoons.
since all gyms are closed, i'm reduced to random curls, bodyweight shit.
i've always heard the same with how dorian put it, so i figure well, no-lift boomers go on hgh and get lean. this will be a good time to get on hgh at least to stay lean. but has not been the case.
it's been 4 months, but have not been blown away. then again, as i mentioned, one kit was china generics and also doing meme workouts.
most say gh keeps you lean, but then others like nick trigili see it more of a means to grow
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>>56737244
yup, hair loss. would the GH not tilt the balance against fat gain?
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>>56735869
It's legal in the USA at least. You can get it at health food shops there. If you are outside the US, Amazon has it, you can get it shipped.

In certain countries such as Australia, pregnenolone is considered a steroid precursor and is a controlled substance. If customs detect it at the border they will confiscate it and send a stern warning letter.
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>>56737719
>precursor

It's a precursor to testosterone.

Here is the biological pathway in the human body.

Cholesterol -> Pregnenolone -> DHEA -> Testosterone-> DHT
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>>56735384
Retard
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>>56737580
you're right. hgh should. i dont know about insulin doses so maybe youve got the balance there, or maybe you can fine tune it mid cycle.

my point though, was more along the lines of 'insulin is the most anabolic hormone' but the reason its so anabolic is because it stimulates energy storage anabolism so much. muscle fibre development would also be stimulated but for something labelled 'the most anabolic' you might find its a bit lacking on strength gains compared to a typical test+tren cycle.

it will probably increase glycogen in muscles though, which is more endurance than strength but that's almost as good right? and that increases size too so maybe it will deliver what you want. glycogen might be more temporary than muscle fibre development.

with respect to hair loss, i think roids speeds up the process so maybe you're giving your nice hairline a few more years but im not sure you can save it forever. if hair loss is an issue on hgh then you can just hop back on roids too.
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>>56732585
i bet you're still above 15%. 400mg tren isn't gonna put 25 pounds of muscle on you in 6 weeks.
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Okay people I need someone to spoonfeed me here idk.
Im gonna do my first cycle of 500mg/week test cyp soon. I need a pct, is clomid enough or what do you guys recommend? Please be serious and right dosages are appreciated

>Inb4 do more research

I did my research but the whole pct thing is very hard because everybody says different stuff. Please tell me the necessary and what I should keep at hand for when sides come
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Everytime I work out my either my bis or tris I get overnight hypertrophy gains. It's like most of the pump is permanent. On 525 mg of test a week
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>>56733967
probably buying fake shit
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>>56737770
isn't progesterone also a precursor to test?
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>>56738312
Yes it can, the pathways are complex.

In the chart:

Cholesterol -> Pregnenolone -> Progesterone -> 17-Hydroxyprogesterone -> Androstenedione -> Testosterone
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>>56727121

This is exactly why I want to try at least one cycle at TRT level test. See if it does for me what all these other SSRIs and stimulants were supposed to do. Seems kind of pointless to toss more and more stims at higher and higher doses at a symptom instead of trying something that could tackle the root cause.

>>56729436

Gonna do it, thanks anons.
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>>56737476
don't give up. you said you have not been blown away by the results from 4 months. does that mean you don't see yourself sticking with it because it may be fake or have you noticed some benefits from using it. i got fat from quarantine too and I really think it has gone on far too long
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>>56738135
chinakit was $250 for 100iu. reputable source. couple times i'd pin like 6iu to see if any hand swelling but nothing.
the current kit i have is an actual german lab with barcodes and shit and $200 for 100iu. confirmed by a paid, top source.
tested both with a pregnancy test, so at least not hcg.
time will tell i guess. all trial and error
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>>56738554
there's literally one rule and you manage to break it, retard.
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>>56738510
that's the plan basedanon.
i hear ya bro. just started doing sprints and cardio feelin good past couple wks
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>>56738710
how long you been on it? it's been 4 months for me, 2iu 5 days a week. was really looking for fatloss (and recovery/ some growth before gyms closed)
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>>56728741
Then go fuck off to reddit. Causal racism is what shields 4chan from total faggotry
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>>56738761
about three months, 4iu M/W/F
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>>56738778
effects so far?
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>>56738805
noticeable joint "swelling" on pin days, improved sleep, much faster healing (also on BPC, this could be overlap)

significantly less than usual fat gain during bulk, but I've modified my diet a bit too so its hard to determine which is more of a factor there.
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>>56732634
How long does it take to lose the deca bloat after you stop using? I think it's why my gut is hueg
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>>56738901
good to look for. thanks anon
there has been swelling alright, but mostly this covid gut
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>>56738762
That's what I usually use. The fitness subreddit here is the only one I'd use on this website.
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>>56728383
Oh god
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Need your help guys. I got injured mid-cycle and had to be operated on twice which left me with alot of scars and unable to lift or exercise besides doing fast/incline walks on the treadmill for the next 2 months.

I dropped down to cruise test but I'm curious if keeping EQ at a low dosage (around 200mg/week) to act as an AI and promote collagen synthesis could help me keep mass and help with faster healing? Also any general tips to keep as most mass as possible?
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>>56734255
>It's literally the best dry steroid.
just razzing you you total faget
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>>56739555
prob not
>keep mass
just don't cut
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>>56739335
wow you really have to go back
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>>56736133
Yeah I wanted to get ralox against gyno but my source doesn't have it and I couldn't be bothered getting it from PP because of their $100 minimum order limit.
>>56740416
Ok, but can I retaliate by sucking your dick?
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>>56741486
i'm warning you i'm circumcised
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>>56741539
I'm sorry, anon. Make sure your sons never have to experience that. We can stop this madness, it's been done before. Australia went from 80% infant circumcision rate in the 60s to like 10% today.
I'm not picky though, give me that cut D.
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>>56741568
i encourage every broad i bang that, beyond all else, stop cutting kids
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>>56741574
I just ask if they would be okay with me cutting a little girls labia off at birth. Once you point iut the hypocrisy, most women can see the issue at hand.
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>>56739335
o i am laffin

this is unironically based
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>>56738490
holy fuck this is super interesting
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dosing 3iu hgh daily in 3 years im gonna make it bros
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Starting to have high E2 symptoms 10 days into fiest 500 blast.

How should I dose my aromasin I've got on hand?
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>>56742319
you plan to do this in 3 years?
or you just started and will for 3..?
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>>56742549

What are your symptoms? Itchy nips yet? It took me 7-8 days i think on my 500 run to get itchy nips, i ran 2.5 mg asin every few days.

Ccfc has a guide somewhere. Unless someone has a better idea, try like 2.5 mg and your symptoms should be gone within 12 hours. See how long it takes for high e2 symptoms to return. That should give you an idea of how much you need, but dose more freq with smaller amounts to make things stable. If you notice issues try to pinpoint high or low. Regardless, get a blood test to verify your test and e2 levels after a few weeks on that regimen.
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>>56742792
No itchy or spicy nips.

Little bit of bloat. Peeing a lot. New song from Taylor swift made tears pour down my face. And on my left pec it feels "sore" or sensitive a little bit above my nipple.
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Redpill me on hcg
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>>56742972
do your own research
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>>56742820
>>56742549
>>56742792
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>>56742980
I have, I know its an lh analogue and supposedly can help maintain testicular volume and function and keep levels of testosterone metabolites up, is prescribed sometimes for trt, can maybe help lipids, etc. i just wanna hear from someone here who has used it ya gatekeeping dingus.
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>>56743099
>>56743113
thank you so much floens
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>>56743161
bump curious about using hcg for trt whike blasting other compounds
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>>56724018
kek this sounds like a joke but at this point I can't even really tell
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>>56722247
That has nothing to do with you being retarded
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>>56743380
Apparently some men have a reaction to it that severely drops sensitivity to hcg after like 6 months, and after that you need to take more and more for the same effect until it just becomes ineffective completely. It's genetic and not very well understood though. Some men can use hcg with good results for years without sensitivity drop/tolerance. For most guys it will be in the middle I'd guess.
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Ok fess up, this was taylormade wasnt it?
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>>56720057
Q for the BnC senpai. How often do you guys order gear? Like how much for how long before you have to order another shipment? (e.g. A 6 month supply at a time)
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>>56743748
I'm assuming they're good to go for over a year.
shelf life stability is normally due to complex molecules like proteins breaking down in the presence of water ph ions, or because an emulsion will layer out and need shaking back into an emulsion. Neither of these is the case in terms of molecule complexity or ions for roids and carrier oils. or dry orals.
if they 'go off' then they probably werent properly sterile to begin with and you definitely didnt want to put that under your skin.
I'd probably still use a vial that's been loitering around for 3 years

Because I'm ordering from china, and because sources can sometimes vanish with exit scams or getting busted, I'd aim to order 8 weeks before i need to use a vial from that shipment. You could do it in 3 weeks probably but you're bumping into risks.
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- age
>28
- bf%
>almost none
-weight
>95lbs
- time spent training
>none

I need to look good by December someone help me I know it’s possible
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I've been on 750mg test E for 6 weeks now and Haven't used an AI yet. I feel completely normal besides getting bigger and stronger. Libido is normal, no spicy nips ext.

Was on 30mg Dbol for the first 4 weeks, didn't use an AI then either, definitely had alot of water retention though. Just added 400mg mast E in two weeks ago

Feels good to be a low aromatiser
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>>56744066
Help me faggots
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>>56741486
How do you use ralox raws?
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>>56743582
TM was the man until he rolled when the police got him and snitched.
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>>56743582
Just realised >2020
TM went outta business ages ago so I doubt this was him
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>>56744283
ive got one vial of nand deca that's been sitting around for a while to try. kinda wish id got nand prop instead now.

when i finish my cut i might bulk with tren for a bit just to enjoy my leanness for a while but i was wondering why you prefer nand so much. i guess if your bf% isnt great anyway then dry isnt much of a benefit.

my understanding is muscle mass improvement from equal amounts of tren and nand would be better in tren. but sides might be a lot less with nandrolone so you could probably run double the amount, still see less sides, and probably get more muscle mass. so instead of comparing equal doses maybe comparing 400mg/w tren with 800mg/w nand is where you see nand is better?
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>>56744192
maybe start lifting?
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>>56744394
I’m starting basic body weight calisthenics on Monday but I want to start a cycle after a month of breaking in my body I’m not trying to get super big just aesthetic as I can in a 5 month period
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>>56721957
>estrogen is required after the cycle to help stimulate the production of testosterone after shutdown.
Lmao you retard thats not how it works.
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>>56744127
>hasnt given the test time to saturate
>running a compound that masks symptoms of aromatisation
>"feels good to not aromatise"
enjoy your gyno you fucking mouthbreather
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>>56744127
Are SORE nips, the spicy nips you niggas talk about? I never understood that phrase. My nips felt sore when I knew it was high e2. Never spicy or itchy or whatever.
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for you legit roiders, is Athlean X >>>/fraud/?
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>>56744408
Doable?
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>>56744201
You eat it I guess. You can load it into gelatin capsules if it tastes like shit, never tried it so idk.
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>>56744408
>>56744851
Bro read a guide on training for hypertrophy and do a PPL program. In 5 months you can pack on over 15 lbs of lean muscle and some fat depending on your diet if you blast test the whole time. A 20 week cycle will shut you down for a while, but that's just the nature of gear. Add in 40mg of anavar for 6-8 weeks any time after week 5. You should be familiar with sides by then and your blood levels will be stable even if you pin once a week. Eat healthy fats and fish oil to help your lipids.
Read the faq on r/steroids for dosages, what to watch out for, sides, etc. Also use hcg there's no reason not to.
But most importantly train for hypertrophy, and 90% of the time that means no bw calisthenics.
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>>56744851
not even remotely
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on trt for 2 weeks, 125mg sustanon weekly split EOD, and 875IU HCG weekly split EOD, and 1mg finasteride a day.

my doc trialed clomid a few weeks ago for hypogonadism but i got a really painful right nipple a week in, had to stop and he gave me tamoxifen.

ive got puffy nips now but i cant tell if its just the bloat from estrogen and slightly higher body fat from lockdown. my nips are not sensitive, can you develop gyno without sensitivity? - what are the gyno warning signs i should look out for?
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>>56744201
Do I just mix it in bacteriostatic water, and use a syringe?
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>>56744836
Definitely at least TRT dose.
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>>56725487
6ix9ine music is literally like gear
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>>56744378
Nandrolone is just my favourite steroid
It's pretty much sideless for me, good fullness, makes me feel happy and less anxious, joints feel great, it's everything I want in a steroid.
Tren is amazing but tren is also draining imo, the sleep, the sweating, the tren "feeling", becomes draining after a while.
I've ran nandrolone while lean, it's pretty good, for most people they will look more full on nandrolone while lean than tren, a lot of people end up looking quite flat on tren.
If diet and everything else is equal then yes tren has nand beat but nandrolone is much easier to run so i wouldnt be surprised if in real world applications people faired about the same due to easier appetite and sleep.
Deca is nice because you can pin it like once a week but i'm pinning NPP ed atm and it's not the end of the world, used to be able to get nand cyp but it dried up last year when raw sources got raped.
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Thoughts on front loading long esters?
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>>56746777
A great way to give yourself horrible pip if you're pinning virgin muscle.
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>>56746690
just got 30g of npp in is this enough to see some results, last time i ran namd i ran deca for 15 weeks and barely got to see it work

also update on the 60 cardarine episode - i have a stomach ulcer so supplementing antiobiotics and l glutamine any ideas on how to heal quicker?
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>>56746919
I try to hit a nice 20 weeks on deca.
30g works out to about 20vials at 150mg/ml so yeah should be good kek
I'm running around 525mg npp and 350 test prop, might up the NPP after a weeks, idk yet.
>60 cardarine
Is that what the unmarked pills were?
There are studies done on oral BPC-157 for gastric ulcers, could give that a try?
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>>56742319
except you watch faggy shows so no you won't
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>>56747009
>525mg npp and 350 test prop
if nand doesnt really give you sides and you're running test at close to trt doses, is the intent to permablast this with some minor tweaks for the forseeable future?
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>>56743582
tiny ran out of gibs
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>>56721614
That retarded website reselss shit for double or triple the price. DO NOT ORDER FROM THEM unless you want to lose money
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Fact: without even training you'll look like an instagram model within a week of 1000mg+ tren a/test p/mast p a week
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>>56744066
Not gonna make it
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>>56747144
If you already look good you can stop lifting and you will still look good untill you start losing muscle. What is your point you retarded faggot?
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I can get pharma grade equipose, should I get that?
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>>56746690
does it have any long-term bad sides to worry about, like heart damage?
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>>56747363
i think all roids make your heart bigger which can cause problems but its not really something i worry about. id be more concerned with the lipids/cholesterol issues and blood pressure.
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>>56747009
yeah source fucked up and sent cardarine so fuck me right irony is i cant sleep now with all this reflux and i still didnt get my valiums motherfuck

babys first npp cycle gonna run trt test and mast with it advice on dosages? also orals of choice for beginning and end
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>>56747162
Lowdoses are a retarded meme peddled by forum users and people who can't figure out how to handle trensomnia, bodybuilding is all about the drugs and less about training and diet, anyone who has done an extremely high dose pro cycle knows what I'm talking about. Metabolism through the roof, fat(not just water like delusional forumkiddies peddle) shreds right off and pure lean muscle(not just glycogen like delusional forumkiddies peddle) is instantly added.
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>>56746690
how long till your nandolone kicks in?
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>>56747598
Are you fucking drunk or something? What are you even talking about?
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>>56747677
how long until steroids kicks in?
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>>56747766
how long until you end your virginity?
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If you're going to do your 1st cycle cookie-cutter 500mg testE for 12 weeks, thus crashing your natural test anyway, would it be a bad idea to do a 8-10week SARM stack before the test cycle?
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>>56748037
yeah
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>>56748334
Alright, but why?



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