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You guys said that I should socialize and i went on a date. The whole thing started with a hug and the whole thing ended with a hug. Lifting is the only answer.
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>>56217604
Receive a hug from me, bro

I am convinced, women are only for children and for magic rituals. Not for love. Love is from God, from the spirit, not from stuffing a smelly fishhole.

Abstain, retain the semen forever and achieve great things.
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>>56217604
Keep trying fren, learn from this experience and make the next one better
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Just one date? That's fine. Were you expecting to fuck or kiss on the first date?
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>>56217770
Idk dude women tend to do that nowadays
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>>56217770
If shes into you, yes
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>>56217792
If she's not a whore then no.
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>>56217788
>>56217792
Based and reality pilled.
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>>56217816
She doesnt seem like a whore but then again there is a saying that every woman is a whore for the right guy.
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>>56217788
>>56217792
>>56217857
Sounds like you guys have been with some pretty loose women. I waited until the 3rd date before kissing the guy. Every date was an evaluation of the guy in different settings and social interaction
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>>56217604
i feel you bro somehow all my dates are going super smooth i have trouble reading the chick and going for the move, usually i get laid because shes aggressive and makes the move on me
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>>56217604
You are the man, YOU started it with a hug , YOU ended it with a hug. If a girl goes on a date with you and is an adult, she probably already decided she would fuck you and at the very least accept a kiss from you. Did you expect her to grab you and kiss you like a movie?

Man up
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>>56217911
you sound highly autistic
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>t.
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>>56217604
>Tfw first ever hug was by a random girl I met at a bar
>Learnt later from a friend she was a hooker

I can't even...
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>>56217936
>pic reminds me of this
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>>56217940
It's called having standards. When I date, I'm looking for a long term relationship and it takes time to get to know someone. First date is an introduction and the dates after are for sizing him up, seeing if we actually click and if he is worth a damn. A man will be fake as hell on dates and I'd rather not get with a guy that is only dating me just to fuck me then leave.
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>>56217936
Paru wants her wolf and deer back.
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>>56218035
>I'd rather not get with a guy that is only dating me just to fuck me then leave

you both have a good time, if it doesnt work you lost literally nothing. you arent anything special and acting like fucking you is some sort of price is just weird. but if you are looking for some beta guy you can get to do what you want because you reward him with sex if he is a good guy then go ahead. I prefer girls who are more honest.
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>>56218094
>valuing yourself as a person is weird
Bruh fuck you
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The worst thing here is that she wasnt enthustiastic about meeting again, she said she "will see". I dont know if i am legitimately ugly or i am somewhat subconsciously creepy or boring but at this rate ill stay a virgin till i die
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>>56218094
Not that other anon but I’m glad my gf requested that we wait a little before having sex. She was also a virgin and I’m her first bf, so I wanted to make sure it was special for her and that she didn’t regret it (because I’m not a sociopath). It wasn’t that hard and it gave us a chance to develop a deeper relationship than ones I had previously had. Now we fuck pretty often and we’re both happy.
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>>56218140
you do you I am just saying for me it is a red flag if a girl strings you along like that. in college they fuck a different guy every weekend and suddenly when they are looking to settle down the guy has to bend over backwards.
not judging you as a person based on that I just think there are plenty of girls out there no need to deal with this.
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Ur not out of the woods yet just dont be salty about it and let her hit you up first
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>>56218094
You're jumping to a lot of conclusions just for someone that doesn't want to kiss a literal stranger. You forget what type of world we live in but I guess it's not suprising that you don't understand. Women have to be on guard. Look at this board alone who praises and promotes dating just for a cumdump. Saying women are only good for breeding. That's not a mindset just people here have, that's quite a few men in general who only see women as achievements and prizes. If you want a girl like that, go right ahead but don't get pissy just because some chick didn't kiss you on the first date. You say you want an honest woman but what you're really saying is you want a woman that gives into her desires easily without using her head. Be honest with yourself first.
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>>56218151
Damn, being ugly must really suck.... I believe in you king. But yeah if a girl ever said "well see" to me id never talk to her again.
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>>56218202
Implying girls arent horny
Implying girls dont want a kiss at the end of a date
implying girls dont also look at fucking guys they find attractive as an end goal
implying girls dont brag to their friends ab sex and fucking

yikes
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>>56217788
Can you imagine dating the girl you end up in a ltr with 3 times before fucking then find out she used to do one night stands in the past? I'd beat the shit out of her that's just cuckolding
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>>56218202
I am not saying they have to fuck everyone on the first date. But if you think so highly of yourself you reject a kiss after a date that went well then I would honestly just move on. We dont live in the middle ages anymore.
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>>56217733
Based
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>>56218235
I never said they didn't but I'm not surprised that you want to put words in my mouth just because you don't agree. I said I waited until the 3rd date or so and gave my reasons. Even if the guy is hot if they come off weird I'm not going to give in. Hell the last guy I went on a date with before I got married was hot as fuck but one the second date he said he believed he was a vampire. That's a nope right there.
>>56218256
>well then I would honestly just move on.
And that's absolutely fine. I expect a man to judge me just as much as I do him because comparability is more important to me than getting physical.
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if you’re going on dates, especially with women you meet online, the chances of kissing on the first date are slim unless you’ve already established beforehand that you’re both just trying to smash.

if that’s your goal, you have to build it up to that point. you can’t just go from zero to 100 if you didn’t touch her at all throughout the date. you break touch barrier by hugging, then continue by other means such as thighs or elbows touching while sitting together and talking etc. to where she feels comfortable and allows you touch her in more intimate places like hips, back and butt.

you basically be touchy and close to each other all night eventually leading to that kiss at the end, if the vibe is right.
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The trick is to act like its gonna work

>in Australia for 3 months just escaping life
>at a hostel with every other 20 year old foreigner
>cute grill asks me to play marco polo with group while im sunbathing
>have normie 'fun' for a while
>get back up
>they leave just saying bye
>breakfast next day
>girl sits next to me invites friends over
>tells me about how tonight is a full moon
>ask if she wants to go to the beach at night at the risk of getting ate by crocs
>she agrees
>sit down on the beach together at night
>her friends are there to doing random shit
>we just talk
>go in for kiss
>she backs off for a second then returns it
>make out for like half an hour, friends give us space
>sex a week later
>after our make-out session she says she thought we were just friends
>tell her I thought she was coming on to me
>nope just being Canadian

TL:DR go in for the kiss yourself if you want to get one, women don't like initiating that shit
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>>56218094
>if it doesnt work you lost literally nothing
She does, see pic
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>>56218433
ok Mr. #MeToo lol
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>>56218679
This doesn't relate at all to the conversation and you're proving her point.
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>>56218394
I'm too atustic and my emotional intelligence is 0, how and when should I do these things? I never dated a women before, idk how the dynamics work. Won't I look too thristy or a creep?
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>>56218776
What's your goal? Do you want a relationship or do you want to fuck?
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A different anon but I had 10 dates over past 2 months and all of them ended on nothing. I don't know how to deal with this shit anymore, I just don't.

I am skinny, tall enough (5'11"), and I don't dress too bad. I am bald and I was rated 5/10 on /soc/ but if that's the reason then I will never ever find anyone
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>>56218814
How did you get on these dates?
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>>56218814
how do you get dates in the first place ? if your looks are the problem why would they go on dates with you ?
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>>56218726
>and you're proving her point.
Yes
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>>56218814
>Bald
>Manlet

It's over.
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>>56218814
>10 dates over past 2 months

Literally how?
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>>56218876
>>56218917

1 was with a girl from a book club that I sometimes attend, 1 was with a girl i got to know from league of legends (i don't play it anymore), the rest were from tinder.

It seems like they don't have a problem with going out but then they don't really show any interest in me for me to push further. I can't be touchy because the vibe isn't there, like if we touch with our shoes she'll say "sorry" and move away. I am trying to be someone who doesn't really give a fuck but I literally never had a sexual encounter and it just goes on and on like that, drives me nuts inside.
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>>56217911
how very robotic

a nice reminder that girls can have the tism too
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>>56218814
>>56218945
if they're agreeing to go out on dates with you (especially 10? in the past 2 months) they find you attractive

the date itself is a shit test to see if you're compatible and have social skills. the vibe is there if you're being playful and flirty and they're receptive to it. you should be asking questions about them like you're genuinely trying to get to know them. dates involving drinks in an intimate setting make it easier to be touchy and flirty
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>>56218959
See
>>56218035
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>>56219016
Ahh, I rarely go for drinks. That would make things a little bit easier but then again if they are not attracted to me sober then I don't think it matters that much. I spend a lot of time in my head and I am not socially calibrated too much, maybe that's really the problem. Or maybe I am just ugly, if I were attractive by looks alone, I would have much more opportunities to do at least start escalation, right?
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>>56217911
I dated a girl like this briefly. It seemed odd. She also never liked tongue kissing but we went straight to bareback when we had sex.
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>>56217788
You spend too much time on the internet
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>>56219111
you create opportunities for escalation. it's the overthinking that cripples you. most guys can't even get 1 date and yet you're out here getting over 10. i'm guessing you date more of the nerdy introverted types since you said you met one from book club and league of legends. drinks don't need to be involved. i promise, your dates want it to work out just as much as you do.
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>>56219111
Like anon mentioned, you already got the date which proves she thinks you're good looking.
The actual date is all social skills.
And why tf are u baseding on /fit
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>>56218799
Either or, idgaf. What should one do
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>>56217911
this was written by a man
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If you're not in the top 20% of sexual market value for men, you have to put in a ridiculous amount of work to get pussy nowadays, to the point where a lot of men just say "fuck it" and don't bother.
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>>56218679
based data overall but a lot of that stuff on the left may not be causal.
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>>56219644
>you have to put in a ridiculous amount of work to get pussy nowadays
Not really.
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>>56217604
You know how much I would kill for a hug right now? Even from my own parents?
Physical contact is a good thing anon, you shouldn't feel sad or ashamed that it ended there.
Most people have tight restrictions on who they allow to touch them, you got past one of those defenses.
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>>56219737
The problem is that women have inflated egos, so a 4/10 won't have sex with less than 7/10. It's not about putting work in them, it's about having a power level much bigger than it really should be
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>>56219766
i’d argue that’s only true for online dating apps. women are always dating/hooking up with less than their worth irl
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>>56219737
I mean, depends on your standards, sure.
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>>56219766
You've been on the internet too long. I bet you base everything off of social media posts and statistics.
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>>56219785
That hoe is utterly insane, I can guarantee that.
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>>56219644
>you have to put in a ridiculous amount of work to get pussy nowadays
in reality its probably the exact opposite.
sorry anon, we're just autismo
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>>56219766
Think that is just you.
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>>56219819
Poster was only talking about looks not quality of a person.
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Stop glorifying fornication.
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>>56217911
beep boop
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>>56219867
I am just an incel virgin man, this shit makes you question your humanity
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>>56218094
Stop telling women to be whores, kike.
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>>56219946
based simp
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>>56217604
OP that shit is normal if its your first date you dumbfuck
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>>56219940
get off 4chan and get out of your head. things dont have to be this way
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>>56219977
But it almost never goes byeond the first date
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>>56219644
Idk man I'm pretty ugly and I manage to get laid by sending memes on tinder
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>>56218814
Lol get a load of this manlet
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>>56219016
>should be asking questions about them like you're genuinely trying to get to know them.
This is where I always falter. I am not curious about other people at all.
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>>56220063
>I am not curious about other people at all.
You’re going to make one large anime pillow very lucky one day.
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>>56220092
She is happy already ^.^
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>>56220005
Post body
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>>56217936
Bro shut the fuck up.
You try and go for a kiss she'll call you a creep if you're lucky, at worst it's sexual assault
Either way you're screwed and the relationship ends prematurely
I know cause it happened to me
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>>56220168
She probably wasn’t feeling it.
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>>56220209
None of them fucking feel it.
It's just getting to the point where I wonder they'd like it more if I forced myself on them.
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>>56220223
Why are you posting on /fit/
Try going to the gym.
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>>56220223
Anon that reauested you body. You're not fat so that's already a positive but you do look like you're young physically (16-17). Women generally like older looking men so buff up a bit to make up for your face if it also looks young.

Also when you're on a date, let her talkand ask questions about her hobbies and things she likes. She'll take this as someone having an interest in her and it will allow you to gather what type of person she is and how to flow the conversation. If she makes a joke, even if it's bad, laugh anyway. If she's a shit talker you can bantz with each other but if not, lay off. If she isn't talking much, she's not interested. If you get near her and she leans away, she's not interested. Don't take it as failure, take it as she's not right for you.

You might have better luck with older women (40s) IF you're into that.
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>>56218932
Americans.
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>>56220401
like europeans aren't doing it in the loo at the club or having orgies by age 15
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>>56220223
why is it that from this pic alone I can tell you're a beta faggot?
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>>56217770
Majority of my first dates end in sex...just ask them back to your place to watch Netflix. They know exactly what is going to happen but they can use it as an excuse to not appear to be a slut
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>>56220293
>>56220392
I am working on my body and that's that

>>56220432
Beta how? I don't think I am beta overall but I am definitely weak
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>>56220450
well duh, you're both going out with the intent to fuck, not for something long-term lol
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>>56220416
I wasn't talking about hookups or hook up culture. The dating culture is largely American design.
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>>56220510
>Americans invented dating
look at this retard
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>>56218151
This happened because you let that bitch know that you care anon. Don't ever let the whore know that you care anon.
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>>56220478
you have the hips of a woman
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>>56220484
Most relationships start with a ONS
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>>56220571
>source: my ass
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I am 26 years old and I never even kissed a girl
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>>56220554
How do you not let her know?
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>>56220809
you tell her you don’t care and she’ll think you’re alpha and wrap her mouth around your cock. it’s that easy
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>>56220168
Lmao ive gone for the kiss on every first date and have never been rejected
Stop making excuses and man up
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>>56220655
bruh
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>>56220571
So do divorces.
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>>56220844
every first date? lmao nice larp weirdo
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>>56219130
Some girls just aren't with the program. I went out with a virgin for a while who stuck her tongue in my mouth like twenty minutes after meeting, let me play with her tits and pussy in public on the third date, but wouldn't fuck after like two months.
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>>56217733
What, when you woke up, made you decide to be so based today
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>>56217604
Don't bother with roasties OP, you're better than her. These fucking whores have this crazy high standard because Chad needed to get his dick wet and decided to hit her up instead of fucking his hand, so because of that fling they think they're better than they are. Fuck that, don't bother with whores, retain your semen and elevate yourself to a higher level.

>>56217733
Excellent post King.
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>>56217911
Lol what? You picked the dates?
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>>56220943
cringe
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This is somehow related to this thread but when I am on a date, I feel so aware of myself that I limit my actions, i.e. I dont smile too much because it makes me uglier, i try to speak in a way that i cover my shitty teeth with my lips and I am just aware of every little thing all the time. Why cant I give a fuck lol
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>>56217604
Have you asked her out on a second date?
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>>56221249
I asked if she wants to meet next week and she said she doesnt know yet, so i wont ask her again
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>>56221278
You're just cucking yourself then. Girls who are super enthusiastic seeming to meet again will ghost you and girls who seem cold will meet up again. Don't worry about it and just try. Remember, MAKE HER SAY NO
>>56221199
Focus on her more than yourself.
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>>56217770
If you dint fuck by the second date it’s over, if you’re good first date sex is normal if you’re not chad and she has to think about the date before fucking then second date
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>>56217911
You’re not normal
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>>56217770
If you're not having sex on the first date then you have a big problem.
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>>56221199
How bad are your teeth? Unless they're all brown and rotten, you're probably better off just owning it and smiling more. Even with bad teeth, you probably look more attractive while smiling. If you're straight faced the whole time, she'll think you're either not enjoying yourself or just plain weird.
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>>56221405
t. virgin
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>>56217604
when I read all of this shit. I remember why am I a loser. this is all too much work and I don't have it in me. years of abuse and being raised fat don't help it either. whatever.
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>>56221333
Not that anon but man manipulating a girl to answer a simple fucking question is hard.
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>>56217911
Weird that so many dudes here will talk all day about women being whores, but the second a girl talks about not being horny, she's autistic.
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>>56221484
All women are whores for the right guy, that never changes. But if the right guy has to be 10/10 or else you won't even think about touching him, then there's a problem
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>>56217911
>Every date was an evaluation of how many meals and free drinks I can get out of him
FTFY
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Holy shit this board is filled with degenerates and autists it's not even funny
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>>56221969
The other boards are even worse, is this your first time here?
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>>56217604
Sounds pretty good. Maybe you'll do even better next time.
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>>56220902
My parents have been happily married for 25 years and they fucked the night they met at a club. Here is a hint anon, most couples have sex, a lot of it
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>>56221484
This is more of the hypocrisy that /fit/ has. Guys rant all day on and on about how much they hate how women nowadays are all whores, how they'll never find a virgin girlfriend, every girl went through miles of dick (make sure to talk about black dick as well), yet their main method to try to find girls is Tinder, an app basically made for sluts, and they get absolutely furious if a girl doesn't immediately fuck them as a random guy the first/second time they meet them and claim that she's likely fucking a dozen other dudes at the same time, just doesn't want to fuck you
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>>56218160
>She was also a virgin and I’m her first bf
hahaha
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>>56218160
>>56222368
Some anons are truly clueless
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>tfw khv never even been on a date or asked a girl out at 28 years old

I've just been a complete loser my entire life. It honestly isn't that hard to end up like this if you're a social retard. my autism has gotten so bad that honestly i don't even want to give a girl a compliment because i feel like i will come off like a creep or a pathetic desperate beta orbiter. like i have no standards when it comes to girls and find most of them to be cute, probably a hell of a lot more than a normal guy would find, but if i ever had to give a girl a compliment at work, on a dating app, anything, even as innocuous as you look cute or i like your clothes or something, i would immediately start cringing, dude stop giving her attention like this you desperate thirsty beta
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>>56218433
No, she was coming onto you
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>>56217604
Enjoy the courtship. Instead of just nodding your head or parroting lines and strategies just to get laid, have fun. Take the clownpill
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>>56222148
having sex every first date implies that the girl is also putting our every first date hence marrying a whore like your dad did lmao
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>>56220655
Have you tried talking to one first?
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>>56221028
Look, you incels are cool. You're like the retarded little brother of the TRP crowd. But, calling each other "king" is mentally painful to read. It's the equivalent of hens calling each other "queen". Which are both just as dumb as "ladies" and "gentleman" now that I think about it. None of us are remotely related to nobility, nor have aristocratic roots.
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>>56218160
Did she bleed?
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>>56220809
By not asking if you'll meet again first, for starters
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>>56222597
Speak for yourself pleb
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>>56221434
t. ugly beta who has to wait a month before fucking
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>>56222688
Post proof of inbred face.
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>/fit: all women are whores nowadays why are they all sluts obsessed with black dick and fucking tons of guys
>/fit/: if a women isn't fucking you, a random guy she just met, on the end of the first date a few hours after meeting, she wants nothing to do with you and you're a beta cuck simp
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>>56222885
have you thought thought they these people are seperate groups? have you also thought if a woman is a whore but doesn't sleep with you, she might not like you?
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>>56222710
t. larping fag who can't even get a girl to agree to go on a date with him
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>>56222918
stop projecting, most women will sleep on the first or second date. Hell ive seen dome dudes fuck a girl 10 minutes of talking to them
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>>56218814

Serious question, where are you guys getting dates? If you're going on dates at all at least that's practice and you can improve each time. The last date I had was from a board game meetup and I really wasn't into her. Been isolated in quarantine. Is online dating really the path? I feel like I'd do much better in person, I just need to meet girls somewhere
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>>56223018

Fair enough. It just seems like online dating selects for attractiveness only, and probably has a more promiscuous bias. Would not be my first choice. But it's somewhere to start, at least.
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>>56222948
statistics say you’re wrong virgin fag
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>>56223057
>statistics
>implying women aren't liars
Women fuck, bruh
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>>56222497
Yes anon but my parents are still married. Now kys you product of a divorce
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>>56223057
what fucking statistics? literally ALL my girls have fucked by the second date. it is kinda acceptable to not fuck on the first date since they have to think about it, but by the second date you are an absolute beta if you havn't fucked
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>>56223049
Online dating filters for your text game and your attractiveness.
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Why does this board care so much about 3DPD? I thought women were gains goblins. This has to be the board with the highest concentration of normalfags.
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>>56223085
You are a beta if you don’t fuck on the first date, PERIOD.
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>>56223098
>>>/r9k/
>>>/a/
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>>56223106
it really depends. if you just met the girl off the street then its different than going on a date with a girl youve seen before. plus I like my first dates to be during the day (i.e. coffee) so it doesn't last long and I have an excuse to bail if it's not going well
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>>56223085
Not that Anon, but I think there's a difference between wanting to date someone for a relationship and wanting to hook up. They're typically not the same people and while you can transition from hook-up to relationship, it doesn't often work as well for a variety of reasons. You and that Anon simply date for different reasons and encounter different women.
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>>56223097

Yeah, but even text game is something I hate. I always talk with people in person if possible, text sucks for any real human interaction. Text game seems to be all about conciseness and jokes. But yeah, no point in bitching, just gotta grind out the skill
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>>56223138
a date with a girl you've seen before is way different than a girl you met straight off a dating app lmao. you're not fucking the latter on the first date
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>>56223164
adapt or die boomer
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>>56223172
that's literally what I just said
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I have never payed for a girl when on a date, I only accept her paying for me if she wants. You guys lack guts and are too neurotic, I literally had a girl once beg to buy me a beer. I got drunk instantly because I almost never drink alcohol.
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>>56223172
If you are a beta that is true. Women on dating apps want to be fucked by an alpha on the first date, not awkwardly kissed by a pussy soiboi
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>>56223111
>>>reddit
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>>56223189
it depends on your text game and if you established sex was on the table

>>56223158
even relationship tier girls will fuck within the first 3 dates unless she communicates with you whatever reason she doesn't want to
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>>56223184
yes. but i was always speaking about the dating apps, and you were speaking about girls you met already. this thread was mostly tinder conversation. we're both on different frequencies

>>56223189
you're trolling at this point
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>>56223174

Yeah, I will. If the end result is worthwhile I'll get good at whatever I have to to get there. If online dating only has the worst of the worst (for relationships, not sex) then it's not worth it. I probably just have to go somewhere other than tinder
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>>56223208
>yes. but i was always speaking about the dating apps, and you were speaking about girls you met already. this thread was mostly tinder conversation. we're both on different frequencies
ah okay, we we're on the same page - the only thing is that you might be able to fuck on the first date with tinder sluts depending on your text game and if you set up the date to allow an easy transition back to your place.

but really i've had too many shitty online dates to not go with a simple midday coffee and then fucking second date if it goes well . That being said im not an absolute chad so maybe some chads can make it work with any girl on night dates.
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>>56217911
please be my fit gf
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>>56223254
Every date should be an easy transition back to your place. A nearby bar, beach, etc that you can say “hey want to go watch that new Netflix movie?”, which is basically saying “want to fuck?” Without being explicit. Most of the time if she is on a dating app she will go back with you. This whole “nobody gets laid on the first tinder date unless you text about it” is out of touch. You should be able to escalate in person and should not be putting sex on the table during text.
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>>56223305
What about if I don't have my own place?
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>>56223305
Im just not chad enough to invite tinder sluts to those things on the first date at night so im a pussy and go the safe route of coffee then fuck next date.
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>>56223337
ask to go to hers or get a room
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>>56223350
>get a room
>paying a hotel for hookup sex NGMI
you have CAR sex or you fuck in the bushes
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Since high school, I've had this bizarre move. I go on a first date with a girl, and I charm them the entire night and then when its over, i drive them to their house and kiss them on the cheek before they get out of the car. Its really smooth. Its affectionate and arousing, but not louche. its dominant but sweet. The girl always giggles and finds it really nice. You should all try it. Granted, it works better if you have a conventional/sporty guy, otherwise I imagine it could be sort of bizarre.
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>>56223362
this is a god tier move if you acknowledge you could fuck but say you don't fuck on the first date
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27 years old and never had sex, never been on a date, never even kissed a girl or similar romantic things. As you can imagine someone who ends up in this position is most likely a loser at life and I am a complete retard loser socially. Lost friends as a teenager > not in social situations to meet girls > develop no social skills > still can't make friends > still meeting no girls etc etc. At this point the thought of going on a date makes me hyperventilate, thinking of having a conversation with someone where I have to reveal what a loser I am

I don't expect everyone to be as big of a loser as me but then I can't even come to a board on 4chan without everyone talking about how much they fuck and how often they are fucking and fucking basically immediately after meeting dozens of girls. Don't even belong on 4chan, and no one in real life not even a therapist would believe this or look at me with anything but utter contempt and derisiveness. I just want to be dead but I'm too pussy to do it by my own hand.
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>>56223360
>being too broke to get a $60 room
>having car sex, fucking in the bushes
sorry I'm not a manlet or a degenerate bushwacker
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>>56223379
if you can afford hotel sex you can afford to have your own place
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>>56223305
i mean, that sounds like a gamble and time waster when you can simply ask and figure out what they're looking for before meeting them. i don't think that'll fly with the girl saying she's looking for something serious and long-term. but it's easy to establish sex is going to happen if they tell you they're looking for short term or casual fun
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>>56223375
have you put youself out there? im an ugly manlet and I still get laid
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>>56223375
Don't get demoralized anon, the fags LARPing about fucking right after they meet a thot are lying or fucking 1/10 landwhale disgusting thots normal people wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole.
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>>56223375
You are not alone buddy. 28, the idea of going on a date and trying to charm a girl seems so forced and unnatural to me, I son't think I will ever be able to do it
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>>56223360
>>56223350
>>56223337
>they are too plebean to know a deserted night beach to shag on
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>>56223350
Do i ask her if she wants to get a room, or do you usually plan that shit?
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>>56223368
Its a nice old-school move. Its something that women nowadays really like. That, and I usually call them instead of texting. Also, just be warm towards her. I see all these guys who try to "neg" women and its really-offputting to any woman who's actually proud of herself. Lastly, I always find that young guys are sort of ashamed of feeling anything towards anyone. as If they have to neglect her to come on, but that's not how it goes unless you live in a trailerpark.
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>>56223425
>sandy vag
>>56223428
don't ask just tell her let's get a room
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>>56223443
>>sandy vag
holy shit buy a bigger beach towel, don't ever insult night beach sex ever again
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since i'm an autistic worthless loser i have no idea, and this is an honest question: is it normal to compliment girls on dates or even before actually going on a date? like just outright saying how they are cute or pretty or smart or complimenting some aspect of them? it may seem obvious but with everything going on nowadays especially with how negatively girls view desperate/thirsty guys (they call simp nowadays i guess) i feel like i would never be able to actually compliment a girl without feeling like a total creep. like just randomly telling some girl "you know you're really cute id like to go on a date with you" or some shit. or when you are on a date, or even when you are on the way to having sex, do you actually give direct compliments to a girl?
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>>56223440
it really depends on your personality and your vibe. Girls like to fuck around because they get to meet different varieties of men - the best thing you can do is play your strengths. i.e. you can get away with CHAD if you are an actual CHAD but if you're a BRAD you are better off playing your strengths instead of pretending to be CHAD
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>>56223468
is Brad the gentleman that gets ladies with his charming old-school ways?
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>>56217911
Based
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>>56217604
Stop focusing on cooming and focus on having fun and getting to know her retard
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>>56223414
BRAD is somebody who can't be forward for sex (i.e. a CHAD can go "lets go in the bathroom for a bit") but is attractive and fun to be around to where if he dances around fucking for 1-2 dates then girl will happily come back to his place to fuck. BETA is anything past 3 dates
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>>56223407
come on man, every person here who has casual sex isnt just larping. i may be miserable but i dont lie to myself like that. this is just normal in this day and age but not for autistic retards like me
>>56223396
no and i fully admit i dont put myself out there at all. like i said never been on a date nor even asked a girl out, ever, in my life. it isnt like im some guy asking out women left and right and they all just reject me. i fully recognize that by never doing anything i will never get a girl but my social retardation since i was a teenager that led to friendlessness basically completely crippled my entire life. i have nothing to "put myself out there" to. i could never make a tinder profile because nothing about me is appealing: im not attractive and i dont have friends. i dont go places socially to meet girls, let alone girls thinking some random loner ugly creep just starting to talk to them is appealing to them at all.

i honestly dont even feel comfortable attempting to flirt because i just feel like a creep
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>>56223578
the best tip I can give you is start by fucking ugly/fat women and work your way up. Also get /fit/ or /rich/ so that you always have desperate women to practice on. You can succeed with no friends but its much harder since you arn't socially super in-tune but realistically by being on online forums you are better of than people who sit at work all day and watch tv.
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>>56217733
>Abstain, retain the semen forever and achieve great things.

Based & teslapilled
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>>56223717
he depicted women as men because only men were models
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>>56217770
They will fuck you on the first date if they're truly, physically attracted to you anon.
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>>56218945
How does a 5/10 get an average of a date a week on tinder?
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>>56219644
a woman’s sexual market value is her appearance

a man’s sexual market value is his success. just don’t be a loser and it’s not that hard
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>>56220809
she’ll know, you just have to reach the point mentally where you actually don’t care
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>>56221484
Shock horror, all women are not identical. We like to generalise about them a lot but using generalisations as a hard and fast rule is foolish and incorrect. They're just as varied as anything else.
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>>56217604

Game son, you gotta learn that shit, learn to escalate. Its not the woman's job to see where that goes, that's your's as the man.
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>>56222617
Go back to twitter you subhuman.
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>>56220655
24 here
Never even had a female friend
Don't know what went so wrong with me, I'm not even ugly
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>>56218433
sounds like you sexually assaulted her
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pussy is da besto im fiting in boyos
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You know, I can't tell if I am just low value or women are really demanding these days, I won't become gay just because I am an incel but holy fuck it is hard if you are not in the top 20%. Like the only things I can improve at this point are my body and my wallet. And I feel like even then nothing is guaranteed, I just don't know. Is having a good body and being rich enough?
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Dude that’s fine. Schedule another date if you’re still talking to her
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>>56226181
Face is everything if you want to experience satisfying romance with good looking women. Everything else is a cope and she's after your money/status to make herself feel better. Unless you're high sentience and can see beyond the looks and find a kind average to ugly girl(the majority of the female population).
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>>56223940
I don't know, I make a little bit funny bio, post 2 pictures (1 for my face, 1 with a meme) and I talk first to them. It isn't ideal and I am getting scraps but if I desperately want to meet someone at least once a week, that works. But then again I am not sure why I do this if the results are the same, it's the definition of insanity really.
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>>56223375
>no one in real life not even a therapist would believe this
Therapists deal with asylum tier shit on a daily basis and you're just a 20something virgin, chill.
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>>56217911
>Every date was an evaluation of the guy in different settings and social interaction
Why are women like that? Cant you act like normal people and have fun?
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>>56222359
Yeah these guys are complete jokes. They think all women are sluts and whores, but if a woman fucked them right after meeting them it wouldn't make her a whore. It's because these guys are just THAT good and they've got it going on like that.
And of course when that doesn't happen, their fragile self esteem comes crashing down and they call the girl a whore for NOT fucking them.
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>>56222914
>have you thought thought they these people are seperate groups?
I don't think they are though.
>have you also thought if a woman is a whore but doesn't sleep with you, she might not like you?
Well of course she didn't like you. So what? That's still her perogative. My point is why do you guys react so badly to that?

>She didn't fuck me after knowing me for an hour! but I don't understand other ugly weridos call me a king on 4chan all the time so I can't be rejected I don't understand how is this happening noooooo
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>>56223082
>yeah my mom's a whore who cares you've had as much sex as me: 0 lmao
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>>56223462
Try to be casual about it, dont say anything generic i.e.
>I think you are beautiful
>wow you are gorgeous
>Damn shawty you be lookin fine

instead after talking about whatever else you hopefully have been engaging in (movies, football, beer, anime) then slip in a quick:

>Your hair looks great by the way
>I love that outfit where do you normally shop?

When you compliment them pretend its something a gay dude would say. It comes across genuine and at least 1000% creepy, and lets them get that sweet reaffirmation and attention they are lowkey going to want bro
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>>56223578
try to get some friends first, check out some activity groups where they take beginners
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>>56223187
>I literally had a girl once beg to buy me a beer. I got drunk instantly because I almost never drink alcohol.
Based af
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>>56221484
I CONSIDER ALL HUMANS AUTISTIC !
YES,IT'S COPE,BUT IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER FELLOW AUTIST !
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>>56223375
How tall are you?
Are you white?
Do you even lift ?
If you are the best looking person in 200 meter radius people will assume you have a lot of sex even if you a virgin.Trust me.
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>>56217911
dilate discord trancel
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>>56217604
>i went on a date
That's impressive dude. You should be proud even if it was a failure. Now you can go on more dates.
most people on /fit/ have never even been on a date or hugged a woman, so I'd say you're better off than 90% of them already.
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>>56217733
fpbp with dub dubs
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>>56221484
I'm pretty sure it's the
>Every date was an evaluation of the guy in different settings and social interaction
That's getting her called autistic, not the not-being-a-whore part.
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>>56217604
From what you’re describing, that date doesn’t sound like a total failure. Despite what incel posts say, most women aren’t looking to throw their pussy at you on the first date no matter what you look like.
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>>56219737
Left out the important qualifier
>If you're not in the top 20% of sexual market value for men
This is true if you want to fucking something attractive.
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>>56217733
you're absolutely right God bless you bro
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>>56220018
You aren't actually ugly, or you're tall.
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>>56217604
>covid times
>hugging
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>>56217733
thank you king
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>>56232290
>discord trancel
I'LL REMEMBER THIS GLORIOUS INSULT !
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90% of MtF trannies exist because of sexual-frustration over inability to get a gf so great that they become the gf themselves. It's also why so many of them become "lesbian" after transitioning as well. I'm honestly shocked trancel didn't take off sooner.
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>>56222611
Profusely.

>>56222368
>>56222382
Yes because a virgin would totally have sex on the first date.
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>>56218094
Bluepilled beta
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>>56232314
I don't know man, this shit makes me feel worse, it makes me even more certain that there's something wrong with me and I should give up before I embarrass myself even more. I can't handle rejections because no one was into me, ever. Rejection itself is understandable but if your whole life is nothing but rejections, this ruins your self confidence
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>>56217604
Take it from someone who's been on a lot of dates and with a lot of chicks: Sometimes it just happens like that. You won't always have chemistry, but if you DO really hit it off, you go for that kiss at the end
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>>56218094
My grandpa is loaded rich and he's kind of a player. I'm the bastard son of a bastard daughter. My grandpa was married even though he fucked around a lot, you know what he told my mom when she was a kif? "There are some girls you marry and some you don't". You know what that really means? "She wouldn't lemme smash until marriage."

That is the wisest dating strategy for women
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>>56217936
Terrible advice. Most women don't operate like this, especially ones that still go on traditional dates
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>>56225901
>>56218686
Dudes shut up. Guys gotta make the first move simple as
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>>56217911
Please be male. The female body can’t handle this much autism.
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>>56220168
You're a creep. If you're on a date you can go for a kiss. She might still swerve you on first date but at least you make your intentions clear, can't fear getting metood so hard you incel
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>>56236045
no shit lol but you made it sound rapey cause you didn’t warm up to the kiss. it’s like initiating sex with a girl and going straight for penis in vagoo without any foreplay
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>>56236113
If you go out on a first date with a girl you already know beforehand, you can do anal with her. but it’s different if it’s your first meet.
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>>56220018
Then you're not actually as facially ugly as you think you are, or autistic
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>>56220997
Was she drunk on the third date?
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>>56223187
If a girl bought you something with nothing in return you are most likely Chad
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>>56236348
i made a drunk tall girl cry because i couldn't comprehend that a lanklet could ever be into a manlet like me. not even after she bought me a drink did it click. i was brainwashed by /fit/
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>>56223187
> I literally had a girl once beg to buy me a beer. I got drunk instantly because I almost never drink alcohol.

I remember a few girls (including my boss) did that a few years ago at a work dinner we had. I'm loud and boisterous at work but in social situations especially restaurants I completely shut down, I basically sat there for hours barely speaking. I don't drink at these places because I'm a huge lightweight and don't want to humiliate myself
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>>56217857
>every woman is a whore for the right guy.
This shit is PAINFULLY true and my friend has proven it dozens of times. The whole "i want a cutie virgin pure gf" shit is so dumb when you realize she's still a whore regardless of whether or not she's been fucked. She's just more likely to be attached to you, but no matter what, a Chad makes a girl wet and women do not fucking care about ANYTHING once they're wet.
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If you didn't at least make out on the first date you either fucked up or she wasn't into you.

A lot of you guys seem embarrassed by your sexuality. Like, you guys realize girls LIKE when guys act horny in the right way? You're not going to offend them when you squeeze their hips when you kiss them, or pull their hair a little bit. If you act like a tense high inhibition beta they're going to sense that. You're better off going out in the blaze of glory. If she sticks her tongue in your mouth grab that ass, she wants to feel like a piece of meat. Confirm the attraction first obviously, but push the limit, don't be a puss.

>t chad slayer
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>>56222795
Dude, just chek'em. There's your proof.
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>>56217733
Godspeed anon
Have a (You)
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>>56238226
t. kissless virgin
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>>56217604
well you got two hugs, I haven't gotten one in over seven years
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>>56232909
>caring about a meme virus
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>>56218349
I'd respond to the woman, but we all know it wouldn't be worth it.

Never ask the doe how to hunt.

This bitch has emotional baggage she's bringing into a first date. Maybe we all do, but letting it dictate our fuck schedules is not ideal.

Really what the woman is saying is that she's bad at making genuine connections so she has to substitute her lack of insight with a program to filter undesirables. If she was more intelligent she would put a stronger filter in the pre-date phase while having a first date methodology that allows for more dynamic outcomes, like fucking.

It might not be her fault. Maybe she's not a 8/10 blonde cutie with tons of options. Maybe she's the plan c on everyone's tinder.
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>>56223440
And you are married? It paid off?

Or you just fucked fewer times and have some ego filled fantasy of chivalry?
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>>56217733
Based dubs, absolutely.
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>>56218246
I struggle with this as well. And most zoomers have noods or ons.
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>>56236348
I'm very beautiful but I look like an ancient greek twink statue with very full lips. I think chads look more masculine/sharp and very tall.
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>>56218433
Agifk

Good job man. Always go in for a kiss.
I was a viegin until 27, after that I exploded into initiating everything. The only reason why Im single is Im waiting for the special one. But I will have to hit the ocean again since this aint working.
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>>56223018
If we are selecting our partners online how will this affect the future generations on the long term? I'm guessing autism overloaded
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>>56218246
99.9999% of girls have had one night stands
literally all girls I've gone on a date with have admitted to having one night stands, all girls I've fucked have had several ons in their past
I've never been romantically involved with a girl that hasn't had a ons
but here I am, the loser that fucks only on the second date, how the fuck do I become one of her one night stands wtf how?
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>>56242977
It hurts the most when you talk to girls who went on a student exchange, had tons of sex with guys there but are completely indifferent to you. Can you even consider yourself as a man at this point?



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