You guys said that I should socialize and i went on a date. The whole thing started with a hug and the whole thing ended with a hug. Lifting is the only answer.
>>56217604Receive a hug from me, broI am convinced, women are only for children and for magic rituals. Not for love. Love is from God, from the spirit, not from stuffing a smelly fishhole. Abstain, retain the semen forever and achieve great things.
>>56217604Keep trying fren, learn from this experience and make the next one better
Just one date? That's fine. Were you expecting to fuck or kiss on the first date?
>>56217770Idk dude women tend to do that nowadays
>>56217770If shes into you, yes
>>56217792If she's not a whore then no.
>>56217788>>56217792Based and reality pilled.
>>56217816She doesnt seem like a whore but then again there is a saying that every woman is a whore for the right guy.
>>56217788>>56217792>>56217857Sounds like you guys have been with some pretty loose women. I waited until the 3rd date before kissing the guy. Every date was an evaluation of the guy in different settings and social interaction
>>56217604i feel you bro somehow all my dates are going super smooth i have trouble reading the chick and going for the move, usually i get laid because shes aggressive and makes the move on me
>>56217604You are the man, YOU started it with a hug , YOU ended it with a hug. If a girl goes on a date with you and is an adult, she probably already decided she would fuck you and at the very least accept a kiss from you. Did you expect her to grab you and kiss you like a movie?Man up
>>56217911you sound highly autistic
>>56217604>Tfw first ever hug was by a random girl I met at a bar>Learnt later from a friend she was a hookerI can't even...
>>56217936>pic reminds me of this
>>56217940It's called having standards. When I date, I'm looking for a long term relationship and it takes time to get to know someone. First date is an introduction and the dates after are for sizing him up, seeing if we actually click and if he is worth a damn. A man will be fake as hell on dates and I'd rather not get with a guy that is only dating me just to fuck me then leave.
>>56217936Paru wants her wolf and deer back.
>>56218035>I'd rather not get with a guy that is only dating me just to fuck me then leaveyou both have a good time, if it doesnt work you lost literally nothing. you arent anything special and acting like fucking you is some sort of price is just weird. but if you are looking for some beta guy you can get to do what you want because you reward him with sex if he is a good guy then go ahead. I prefer girls who are more honest.
>>56218094>valuing yourself as a person is weirdBruh fuck you
The worst thing here is that she wasnt enthustiastic about meeting again, she said she "will see". I dont know if i am legitimately ugly or i am somewhat subconsciously creepy or boring but at this rate ill stay a virgin till i die
>>56218094Not that other anon but I’m glad my gf requested that we wait a little before having sex. She was also a virgin and I’m her first bf, so I wanted to make sure it was special for her and that she didn’t regret it (because I’m not a sociopath). It wasn’t that hard and it gave us a chance to develop a deeper relationship than ones I had previously had. Now we fuck pretty often and we’re both happy.
>>56218140you do you I am just saying for me it is a red flag if a girl strings you along like that. in college they fuck a different guy every weekend and suddenly when they are looking to settle down the guy has to bend over backwards.not judging you as a person based on that I just think there are plenty of girls out there no need to deal with this.
Ur not out of the woods yet just dont be salty about it and let her hit you up first
>>56218094You're jumping to a lot of conclusions just for someone that doesn't want to kiss a literal stranger. You forget what type of world we live in but I guess it's not suprising that you don't understand. Women have to be on guard. Look at this board alone who praises and promotes dating just for a cumdump. Saying women are only good for breeding. That's not a mindset just people here have, that's quite a few men in general who only see women as achievements and prizes. If you want a girl like that, go right ahead but don't get pissy just because some chick didn't kiss you on the first date. You say you want an honest woman but what you're really saying is you want a woman that gives into her desires easily without using her head. Be honest with yourself first.
>>56218151Damn, being ugly must really suck.... I believe in you king. But yeah if a girl ever said "well see" to me id never talk to her again.
>>56218202Implying girls arent hornyImplying girls dont want a kiss at the end of a dateimplying girls dont also look at fucking guys they find attractive as an end goalimplying girls dont brag to their friends ab sex and fuckingyikes
>>56217788Can you imagine dating the girl you end up in a ltr with 3 times before fucking then find out she used to do one night stands in the past? I'd beat the shit out of her that's just cuckolding
>>56218202I am not saying they have to fuck everyone on the first date. But if you think so highly of yourself you reject a kiss after a date that went well then I would honestly just move on. We dont live in the middle ages anymore.
>>56218235I never said they didn't but I'm not surprised that you want to put words in my mouth just because you don't agree. I said I waited until the 3rd date or so and gave my reasons. Even if the guy is hot if they come off weird I'm not going to give in. Hell the last guy I went on a date with before I got married was hot as fuck but one the second date he said he believed he was a vampire. That's a nope right there. >>56218256>well then I would honestly just move on.And that's absolutely fine. I expect a man to judge me just as much as I do him because comparability is more important to me than getting physical.
if you’re going on dates, especially with women you meet online, the chances of kissing on the first date are slim unless you’ve already established beforehand that you’re both just trying to smash.if that’s your goal, you have to build it up to that point. you can’t just go from zero to 100 if you didn’t touch her at all throughout the date. you break touch barrier by hugging, then continue by other means such as thighs or elbows touching while sitting together and talking etc. to where she feels comfortable and allows you touch her in more intimate places like hips, back and butt. you basically be touchy and close to each other all night eventually leading to that kiss at the end, if the vibe is right.
The trick is to act like its gonna work>in Australia for 3 months just escaping life>at a hostel with every other 20 year old foreigner>cute grill asks me to play marco polo with group while im sunbathing >have normie 'fun' for a while>get back up>they leave just saying bye>breakfast next day>girl sits next to me invites friends over>tells me about how tonight is a full moon>ask if she wants to go to the beach at night at the risk of getting ate by crocs>she agrees>sit down on the beach together at night>her friends are there to doing random shit>we just talk>go in for kiss>she backs off for a second then returns it>make out for like half an hour, friends give us space>sex a week later>after our make-out session she says she thought we were just friends>tell her I thought she was coming on to me>nope just being CanadianTL:DR go in for the kiss yourself if you want to get one, women don't like initiating that shit
>>56218094>if it doesnt work you lost literally nothingShe does, see pic
>>56218433ok Mr. #MeToo lol
>>56218679This doesn't relate at all to the conversation and you're proving her point.
>>56218394I'm too atustic and my emotional intelligence is 0, how and when should I do these things? I never dated a women before, idk how the dynamics work. Won't I look too thristy or a creep?
>>56218776What's your goal? Do you want a relationship or do you want to fuck?
A different anon but I had 10 dates over past 2 months and all of them ended on nothing. I don't know how to deal with this shit anymore, I just don't.I am skinny, tall enough (5'11"), and I don't dress too bad. I am bald and I was rated 5/10 on /soc/ but if that's the reason then I will never ever find anyone
>>56218814How did you get on these dates?
>>56218814how do you get dates in the first place ? if your looks are the problem why would they go on dates with you ?
>>56218726>and you're proving her point.Yes
>>56218814>10 dates over past 2 monthsLiterally how?
>>56218850>>56218876>>562189171 was with a girl from a book club that I sometimes attend, 1 was with a girl i got to know from league of legends (i don't play it anymore), the rest were from tinder. It seems like they don't have a problem with going out but then they don't really show any interest in me for me to push further. I can't be touchy because the vibe isn't there, like if we touch with our shoes she'll say "sorry" and move away. I am trying to be someone who doesn't really give a fuck but I literally never had a sexual encounter and it just goes on and on like that, drives me nuts inside.
>>56217911how very robotic a nice reminder that girls can have the tism too
>>56218814>>56218945if they're agreeing to go out on dates with you (especially 10? in the past 2 months) they find you attractivethe date itself is a shit test to see if you're compatible and have social skills. the vibe is there if you're being playful and flirty and they're receptive to it. you should be asking questions about them like you're genuinely trying to get to know them. dates involving drinks in an intimate setting make it easier to be touchy and flirty
>>56219016Ahh, I rarely go for drinks. That would make things a little bit easier but then again if they are not attracted to me sober then I don't think it matters that much. I spend a lot of time in my head and I am not socially calibrated too much, maybe that's really the problem. Or maybe I am just ugly, if I were attractive by looks alone, I would have much more opportunities to do at least start escalation, right?
>>56217911I dated a girl like this briefly. It seemed odd. She also never liked tongue kissing but we went straight to bareback when we had sex.
>>56217788You spend too much time on the internet
>>56219111you create opportunities for escalation. it's the overthinking that cripples you. most guys can't even get 1 date and yet you're out here getting over 10. i'm guessing you date more of the nerdy introverted types since you said you met one from book club and league of legends. drinks don't need to be involved. i promise, your dates want it to work out just as much as you do.
>>56219111Like anon mentioned, you already got the date which proves she thinks you're good looking. The actual date is all social skills. And why tf are u baseding on /fit
>>56218799Either or, idgaf. What should one do
>>56217911this was written by a man
If you're not in the top 20% of sexual market value for men, you have to put in a ridiculous amount of work to get pussy nowadays, to the point where a lot of men just say "fuck it" and don't bother.
>>56218679based data overall but a lot of that stuff on the left may not be causal.
>>56219644>you have to put in a ridiculous amount of work to get pussy nowadaysNot really.
>>56217604You know how much I would kill for a hug right now? Even from my own parents?Physical contact is a good thing anon, you shouldn't feel sad or ashamed that it ended there.Most people have tight restrictions on who they allow to touch them, you got past one of those defenses.
>>56219737The problem is that women have inflated egos, so a 4/10 won't have sex with less than 7/10. It's not about putting work in them, it's about having a power level much bigger than it really should be
>>56219766i’d argue that’s only true for online dating apps. women are always dating/hooking up with less than their worth irl
>>56219737I mean, depends on your standards, sure.
>>56219766You've been on the internet too long. I bet you base everything off of social media posts and statistics.
>>56219785That hoe is utterly insane, I can guarantee that.
>>56219644>you have to put in a ridiculous amount of work to get pussy nowadaysin reality its probably the exact opposite.sorry anon, we're just autismo
>>56219766Think that is just you.
>>56219819Poster was only talking about looks not quality of a person.
Stop glorifying fornication.
>>56219867I am just an incel virgin man, this shit makes you question your humanity
>>56218094Stop telling women to be whores, kike.
>>56217604OP that shit is normal if its your first date you dumbfuck
>>56219940get off 4chan and get out of your head. things dont have to be this way
>>56219977But it almost never goes byeond the first date
>>56219644Idk man I'm pretty ugly and I manage to get laid by sending memes on tinder
>>56218814Lol get a load of this manlet
>>56219016>should be asking questions about them like you're genuinely trying to get to know them.This is where I always falter. I am not curious about other people at all.
>>56220063>I am not curious about other people at all.You’re going to make one large anime pillow very lucky one day.
>>56220092She is happy already ^.^
>>56217936Bro shut the fuck up.You try and go for a kiss she'll call you a creep if you're lucky, at worst it's sexual assaultEither way you're screwed and the relationship ends prematurely I know cause it happened to me
>>56220168She probably wasn’t feeling it.
>>56220209None of them fucking feel it.It's just getting to the point where I wonder they'd like it more if I forced myself on them.
>>56220223Why are you posting on /fit/Try going to the gym.
>>56220223Anon that reauested you body. You're not fat so that's already a positive but you do look like you're young physically (16-17). Women generally like older looking men so buff up a bit to make up for your face if it also looks young. Also when you're on a date, let her talkand ask questions about her hobbies and things she likes. She'll take this as someone having an interest in her and it will allow you to gather what type of person she is and how to flow the conversation. If she makes a joke, even if it's bad, laugh anyway. If she's a shit talker you can bantz with each other but if not, lay off. If she isn't talking much, she's not interested. If you get near her and she leans away, she's not interested. Don't take it as failure, take it as she's not right for you.You might have better luck with older women (40s) IF you're into that.
>>56220401like europeans aren't doing it in the loo at the club or having orgies by age 15
>>56220223why is it that from this pic alone I can tell you're a beta faggot?
>>56217770Majority of my first dates end in sex...just ask them back to your place to watch Netflix. They know exactly what is going to happen but they can use it as an excuse to not appear to be a slut
>>56220293>>56220392I am working on my body and that's that>>56220432Beta how? I don't think I am beta overall but I am definitely weak
>>56220450well duh, you're both going out with the intent to fuck, not for something long-term lol
>>56220416I wasn't talking about hookups or hook up culture. The dating culture is largely American design.
>>56220510>Americans invented datinglook at this retard
>>56218151 This happened because you let that bitch know that you care anon. Don't ever let the whore know that you care anon.
>>56220478you have the hips of a woman
>>56220484Most relationships start with a ONS
>>56220571>source: my ass
I am 26 years old and I never even kissed a girl
>>56220554How do you not let her know?
>>56220809you tell her you don’t care and she’ll think you’re alpha and wrap her mouth around your cock. it’s that easy
>>56220168Lmao ive gone for the kiss on every first date and have never been rejected Stop making excuses and man up
>>56220571So do divorces.
>>56220844every first date? lmao nice larp weirdo
>>56219130Some girls just aren't with the program. I went out with a virgin for a while who stuck her tongue in my mouth like twenty minutes after meeting, let me play with her tits and pussy in public on the third date, but wouldn't fuck after like two months.
>>56217733What, when you woke up, made you decide to be so based today
>>56217604Don't bother with roasties OP, you're better than her. These fucking whores have this crazy high standard because Chad needed to get his dick wet and decided to hit her up instead of fucking his hand, so because of that fling they think they're better than they are. Fuck that, don't bother with whores, retain your semen and elevate yourself to a higher level.>>56217733Excellent post King.
>>56217911Lol what? You picked the dates?
This is somehow related to this thread but when I am on a date, I feel so aware of myself that I limit my actions, i.e. I dont smile too much because it makes me uglier, i try to speak in a way that i cover my shitty teeth with my lips and I am just aware of every little thing all the time. Why cant I give a fuck lol
>>56217604Have you asked her out on a second date?
>>56221249I asked if she wants to meet next week and she said she doesnt know yet, so i wont ask her again
>>56221278You're just cucking yourself then. Girls who are super enthusiastic seeming to meet again will ghost you and girls who seem cold will meet up again. Don't worry about it and just try. Remember, MAKE HER SAY NO>>56221199Focus on her more than yourself.
>>56217770If you dint fuck by the second date it’s over, if you’re good first date sex is normal if you’re not chad and she has to think about the date before fucking then second date
>>56217911You’re not normal
>>56217770If you're not having sex on the first date then you have a big problem.
>>56221199How bad are your teeth? Unless they're all brown and rotten, you're probably better off just owning it and smiling more. Even with bad teeth, you probably look more attractive while smiling. If you're straight faced the whole time, she'll think you're either not enjoying yourself or just plain weird.
>>56217604when I read all of this shit. I remember why am I a loser. this is all too much work and I don't have it in me. years of abuse and being raised fat don't help it either. whatever.
>>56221333Not that anon but man manipulating a girl to answer a simple fucking question is hard.
>>56217911Weird that so many dudes here will talk all day about women being whores, but the second a girl talks about not being horny, she's autistic.
>>56221484All women are whores for the right guy, that never changes. But if the right guy has to be 10/10 or else you won't even think about touching him, then there's a problem
>>56217911>Every date was an evaluation of how many meals and free drinks I can get out of himFTFY
Holy shit this board is filled with degenerates and autists it's not even funny
>>56221969The other boards are even worse, is this your first time here?
>>56217604Sounds pretty good. Maybe you'll do even better next time.
>>56220902My parents have been happily married for 25 years and they fucked the night they met at a club. Here is a hint anon, most couples have sex, a lot of it
>>56221484This is more of the hypocrisy that /fit/ has. Guys rant all day on and on about how much they hate how women nowadays are all whores, how they'll never find a virgin girlfriend, every girl went through miles of dick (make sure to talk about black dick as well), yet their main method to try to find girls is Tinder, an app basically made for sluts, and they get absolutely furious if a girl doesn't immediately fuck them as a random guy the first/second time they meet them and claim that she's likely fucking a dozen other dudes at the same time, just doesn't want to fuck you
>>56218160>She was also a virgin and I’m her first bfhahaha
>>56218160>>56222368Some anons are truly clueless
>tfw khv never even been on a date or asked a girl out at 28 years oldI've just been a complete loser my entire life. It honestly isn't that hard to end up like this if you're a social retard. my autism has gotten so bad that honestly i don't even want to give a girl a compliment because i feel like i will come off like a creep or a pathetic desperate beta orbiter. like i have no standards when it comes to girls and find most of them to be cute, probably a hell of a lot more than a normal guy would find, but if i ever had to give a girl a compliment at work, on a dating app, anything, even as innocuous as you look cute or i like your clothes or something, i would immediately start cringing, dude stop giving her attention like this you desperate thirsty beta
>>56218433No, she was coming onto you
>>56217604Enjoy the courtship. Instead of just nodding your head or parroting lines and strategies just to get laid, have fun. Take the clownpill
>>56222148having sex every first date implies that the girl is also putting our every first date hence marrying a whore like your dad did lmao
>>56220655Have you tried talking to one first?
>>56221028Look, you incels are cool. You're like the retarded little brother of the TRP crowd. But, calling each other "king" is mentally painful to read. It's the equivalent of hens calling each other "queen". Which are both just as dumb as "ladies" and "gentleman" now that I think about it. None of us are remotely related to nobility, nor have aristocratic roots.
>>56218160Did she bleed?
>>56220809 By not asking if you'll meet again first, for starters
>>56222597Speak for yourself pleb
>>56221434t. ugly beta who has to wait a month before fucking
>>56222688Post proof of inbred face.
>/fit: all women are whores nowadays why are they all sluts obsessed with black dick and fucking tons of guys>/fit/: if a women isn't fucking you, a random guy she just met, on the end of the first date a few hours after meeting, she wants nothing to do with you and you're a beta cuck simp
>>56222885have you thought thought they these people are seperate groups? have you also thought if a woman is a whore but doesn't sleep with you, she might not like you?
>>56222710t. larping fag who can't even get a girl to agree to go on a date with him
>>56222918stop projecting, most women will sleep on the first or second date. Hell ive seen dome dudes fuck a girl 10 minutes of talking to them
>>56217604>>56218814Serious question, where are you guys getting dates? If you're going on dates at all at least that's practice and you can improve each time. The last date I had was from a board game meetup and I really wasn't into her. Been isolated in quarantine. Is online dating really the path? I feel like I'd do much better in person, I just need to meet girls somewhere
>>56223018Fair enough. It just seems like online dating selects for attractiveness only, and probably has a more promiscuous bias. Would not be my first choice. But it's somewhere to start, at least.
>>56222948statistics say you’re wrong virgin fag
>>56223057>statistics>implying women aren't liarsWomen fuck, bruh
>>56222497Yes anon but my parents are still married. Now kys you product of a divorce
>>56223057what fucking statistics? literally ALL my girls have fucked by the second date. it is kinda acceptable to not fuck on the first date since they have to think about it, but by the second date you are an absolute beta if you havn't fucked
>>56223049Online dating filters for your text game and your attractiveness.
Why does this board care so much about 3DPD? I thought women were gains goblins. This has to be the board with the highest concentration of normalfags.
>>56223085You are a beta if you don’t fuck on the first date, PERIOD.
>>56223106it really depends. if you just met the girl off the street then its different than going on a date with a girl youve seen before. plus I like my first dates to be during the day (i.e. coffee) so it doesn't last long and I have an excuse to bail if it's not going well
>>56223085Not that Anon, but I think there's a difference between wanting to date someone for a relationship and wanting to hook up. They're typically not the same people and while you can transition from hook-up to relationship, it doesn't often work as well for a variety of reasons. You and that Anon simply date for different reasons and encounter different women.
>>56223097Yeah, but even text game is something I hate. I always talk with people in person if possible, text sucks for any real human interaction. Text game seems to be all about conciseness and jokes. But yeah, no point in bitching, just gotta grind out the skill
>>56223138a date with a girl you've seen before is way different than a girl you met straight off a dating app lmao. you're not fucking the latter on the first date
>>56223164adapt or die boomer
>>56223172that's literally what I just said
I have never payed for a girl when on a date, I only accept her paying for me if she wants. You guys lack guts and are too neurotic, I literally had a girl once beg to buy me a beer. I got drunk instantly because I almost never drink alcohol.
>>56223172If you are a beta that is true. Women on dating apps want to be fucked by an alpha on the first date, not awkwardly kissed by a pussy soiboi
>>56223189it depends on your text game and if you established sex was on the table>>56223158even relationship tier girls will fuck within the first 3 dates unless she communicates with you whatever reason she doesn't want to
>>56223184yes. but i was always speaking about the dating apps, and you were speaking about girls you met already. this thread was mostly tinder conversation. we're both on different frequencies>>56223189you're trolling at this point
>>56223174Yeah, I will. If the end result is worthwhile I'll get good at whatever I have to to get there. If online dating only has the worst of the worst (for relationships, not sex) then it's not worth it. I probably just have to go somewhere other than tinder
>>56223208>yes. but i was always speaking about the dating apps, and you were speaking about girls you met already. this thread was mostly tinder conversation. we're both on different frequenciesah okay, we we're on the same page - the only thing is that you might be able to fuck on the first date with tinder sluts depending on your text game and if you set up the date to allow an easy transition back to your place.but really i've had too many shitty online dates to not go with a simple midday coffee and then fucking second date if it goes well . That being said im not an absolute chad so maybe some chads can make it work with any girl on night dates.
>>56217911please be my fit gf
>>56223254Every date should be an easy transition back to your place. A nearby bar, beach, etc that you can say “hey want to go watch that new Netflix movie?”, which is basically saying “want to fuck?” Without being explicit. Most of the time if she is on a dating app she will go back with you. This whole “nobody gets laid on the first tinder date unless you text about it” is out of touch. You should be able to escalate in person and should not be putting sex on the table during text.
>>56223305What about if I don't have my own place?
>>56223305Im just not chad enough to invite tinder sluts to those things on the first date at night so im a pussy and go the safe route of coffee then fuck next date.
>>56223337ask to go to hers or get a room
>>56223350>get a room>paying a hotel for hookup sex NGMIyou have CAR sex or you fuck in the bushes
Since high school, I've had this bizarre move. I go on a first date with a girl, and I charm them the entire night and then when its over, i drive them to their house and kiss them on the cheek before they get out of the car. Its really smooth. Its affectionate and arousing, but not louche. its dominant but sweet. The girl always giggles and finds it really nice. You should all try it. Granted, it works better if you have a conventional/sporty guy, otherwise I imagine it could be sort of bizarre.
>>56223362this is a god tier move if you acknowledge you could fuck but say you don't fuck on the first date
27 years old and never had sex, never been on a date, never even kissed a girl or similar romantic things. As you can imagine someone who ends up in this position is most likely a loser at life and I am a complete retard loser socially. Lost friends as a teenager > not in social situations to meet girls > develop no social skills > still can't make friends > still meeting no girls etc etc. At this point the thought of going on a date makes me hyperventilate, thinking of having a conversation with someone where I have to reveal what a loser I amI don't expect everyone to be as big of a loser as me but then I can't even come to a board on 4chan without everyone talking about how much they fuck and how often they are fucking and fucking basically immediately after meeting dozens of girls. Don't even belong on 4chan, and no one in real life not even a therapist would believe this or look at me with anything but utter contempt and derisiveness. I just want to be dead but I'm too pussy to do it by my own hand.
>>56223360>being too broke to get a $60 room>having car sex, fucking in the bushessorry I'm not a manlet or a degenerate bushwacker
>>56223379if you can afford hotel sex you can afford to have your own place
>>56223305i mean, that sounds like a gamble and time waster when you can simply ask and figure out what they're looking for before meeting them. i don't think that'll fly with the girl saying she's looking for something serious and long-term. but it's easy to establish sex is going to happen if they tell you they're looking for short term or casual fun
>>56223375have you put youself out there? im an ugly manlet and I still get laid
>>56223375Don't get demoralized anon, the fags LARPing about fucking right after they meet a thot are lying or fucking 1/10 landwhale disgusting thots normal people wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole.
>>56223375You are not alone buddy. 28, the idea of going on a date and trying to charm a girl seems so forced and unnatural to me, I son't think I will ever be able to do it
>>56223360>>56223350>>56223337>they are too plebean to know a deserted night beach to shag on
>>56223350Do i ask her if she wants to get a room, or do you usually plan that shit?
>>56223368Its a nice old-school move. Its something that women nowadays really like. That, and I usually call them instead of texting. Also, just be warm towards her. I see all these guys who try to "neg" women and its really-offputting to any woman who's actually proud of herself. Lastly, I always find that young guys are sort of ashamed of feeling anything towards anyone. as If they have to neglect her to come on, but that's not how it goes unless you live in a trailerpark.
>>56223425>sandy vag>>56223428don't ask just tell her let's get a room
>>56223443>>sandy vagholy shit buy a bigger beach towel, don't ever insult night beach sex ever again
since i'm an autistic worthless loser i have no idea, and this is an honest question: is it normal to compliment girls on dates or even before actually going on a date? like just outright saying how they are cute or pretty or smart or complimenting some aspect of them? it may seem obvious but with everything going on nowadays especially with how negatively girls view desperate/thirsty guys (they call simp nowadays i guess) i feel like i would never be able to actually compliment a girl without feeling like a total creep. like just randomly telling some girl "you know you're really cute id like to go on a date with you" or some shit. or when you are on a date, or even when you are on the way to having sex, do you actually give direct compliments to a girl?
>>56223440it really depends on your personality and your vibe. Girls like to fuck around because they get to meet different varieties of men - the best thing you can do is play your strengths. i.e. you can get away with CHAD if you are an actual CHAD but if you're a BRAD you are better off playing your strengths instead of pretending to be CHAD
>>56223468is Brad the gentleman that gets ladies with his charming old-school ways?
>>56217604Stop focusing on cooming and focus on having fun and getting to know her retard
>>56223414BRAD is somebody who can't be forward for sex (i.e. a CHAD can go "lets go in the bathroom for a bit") but is attractive and fun to be around to where if he dances around fucking for 1-2 dates then girl will happily come back to his place to fuck. BETA is anything past 3 dates
>>56223407come on man, every person here who has casual sex isnt just larping. i may be miserable but i dont lie to myself like that. this is just normal in this day and age but not for autistic retards like me>>56223396no and i fully admit i dont put myself out there at all. like i said never been on a date nor even asked a girl out, ever, in my life. it isnt like im some guy asking out women left and right and they all just reject me. i fully recognize that by never doing anything i will never get a girl but my social retardation since i was a teenager that led to friendlessness basically completely crippled my entire life. i have nothing to "put myself out there" to. i could never make a tinder profile because nothing about me is appealing: im not attractive and i dont have friends. i dont go places socially to meet girls, let alone girls thinking some random loner ugly creep just starting to talk to them is appealing to them at all. i honestly dont even feel comfortable attempting to flirt because i just feel like a creep
>>56223578the best tip I can give you is start by fucking ugly/fat women and work your way up. Also get /fit/ or /rich/ so that you always have desperate women to practice on. You can succeed with no friends but its much harder since you arn't socially super in-tune but realistically by being on online forums you are better of than people who sit at work all day and watch tv.
>>56217733>Abstain, retain the semen forever and achieve great things.Based & teslapilled
>>56223717he depicted women as men because only men were models
>>56217770They will fuck you on the first date if they're truly, physically attracted to you anon.
>>56218945How does a 5/10 get an average of a date a week on tinder?
>>56219644a woman’s sexual market value is her appearancea man’s sexual market value is his success. just don’t be a loser and it’s not that hard
>>56220809she’ll know, you just have to reach the point mentally where you actually don’t care
>>56221484Shock horror, all women are not identical. We like to generalise about them a lot but using generalisations as a hard and fast rule is foolish and incorrect. They're just as varied as anything else.
>>56217604Game son, you gotta learn that shit, learn to escalate. Its not the woman's job to see where that goes, that's your's as the man.
>>56222617Go back to twitter you subhuman.
>>5622065524 hereNever even had a female friendDon't know what went so wrong with me, I'm not even ugly
>>56218433sounds like you sexually assaulted her
pussy is da besto im fiting in boyos
You know, I can't tell if I am just low value or women are really demanding these days, I won't become gay just because I am an incel but holy fuck it is hard if you are not in the top 20%. Like the only things I can improve at this point are my body and my wallet. And I feel like even then nothing is guaranteed, I just don't know. Is having a good body and being rich enough?
Dude that’s fine. Schedule another date if you’re still talking to her
>>56226181Face is everything if you want to experience satisfying romance with good looking women. Everything else is a cope and she's after your money/status to make herself feel better. Unless you're high sentience and can see beyond the looks and find a kind average to ugly girl(the majority of the female population).
>>56223940I don't know, I make a little bit funny bio, post 2 pictures (1 for my face, 1 with a meme) and I talk first to them. It isn't ideal and I am getting scraps but if I desperately want to meet someone at least once a week, that works. But then again I am not sure why I do this if the results are the same, it's the definition of insanity really.
>>56223375>no one in real life not even a therapist would believe thisTherapists deal with asylum tier shit on a daily basis and you're just a 20something virgin, chill.
>>56217911>Every date was an evaluation of the guy in different settings and social interactionWhy are women like that? Cant you act like normal people and have fun?
>>56222359Yeah these guys are complete jokes. They think all women are sluts and whores, but if a woman fucked them right after meeting them it wouldn't make her a whore. It's because these guys are just THAT good and they've got it going on like that.And of course when that doesn't happen, their fragile self esteem comes crashing down and they call the girl a whore for NOT fucking them.
>>56222914>have you thought thought they these people are seperate groups?I don't think they are though.>have you also thought if a woman is a whore but doesn't sleep with you, she might not like you?Well of course she didn't like you. So what? That's still her perogative. My point is why do you guys react so badly to that?>She didn't fuck me after knowing me for an hour! but I don't understand other ugly weridos call me a king on 4chan all the time so I can't be rejected I don't understand how is this happening noooooo
>>56223082>yeah my mom's a whore who cares you've had as much sex as me: 0 lmao
>>56223462Try to be casual about it, dont say anything generic i.e.>I think you are beautiful>wow you are gorgeous>Damn shawty you be lookin fineinstead after talking about whatever else you hopefully have been engaging in (movies, football, beer, anime) then slip in a quick:>Your hair looks great by the way>I love that outfit where do you normally shop?When you compliment them pretend its something a gay dude would say. It comes across genuine and at least 1000% creepy, and lets them get that sweet reaffirmation and attention they are lowkey going to want bro
>>56223578try to get some friends first, check out some activity groups where they take beginners
>>56223187>I literally had a girl once beg to buy me a beer. I got drunk instantly because I almost never drink alcohol.Based af
>>56221484I CONSIDER ALL HUMANS AUTISTIC !YES,IT'S COPE,BUT IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER FELLOW AUTIST !
>>56223375How tall are you?Are you white?Do you even lift ?If you are the best looking person in 200 meter radius people will assume you have a lot of sex even if you a virgin.Trust me.
>>56217911dilate discord trancel
>>56217604>i went on a dateThat's impressive dude. You should be proud even if it was a failure. Now you can go on more dates.most people on /fit/ have never even been on a date or hugged a woman, so I'd say you're better off than 90% of them already.
>>56217733fpbp with dub dubs
>>56221484I'm pretty sure it's the >Every date was an evaluation of the guy in different settings and social interactionThat's getting her called autistic, not the not-being-a-whore part.
>>56217604From what you’re describing, that date doesn’t sound like a total failure. Despite what incel posts say, most women aren’t looking to throw their pussy at you on the first date no matter what you look like.
>>56219737Left out the important qualifier>If you're not in the top 20% of sexual market value for menThis is true if you want to fucking something attractive.
>>56217733you're absolutely right God bless you bro
>>56220018You aren't actually ugly, or you're tall.
>>56217733thank you king
>>56232290>discord trancelI'LL REMEMBER THIS GLORIOUS INSULT !
90% of MtF trannies exist because of sexual-frustration over inability to get a gf so great that they become the gf themselves. It's also why so many of them become "lesbian" after transitioning as well. I'm honestly shocked trancel didn't take off sooner.
>>56222611Profusely.>>56222368>>56222382Yes because a virgin would totally have sex on the first date.
>>56232314I don't know man, this shit makes me feel worse, it makes me even more certain that there's something wrong with me and I should give up before I embarrass myself even more. I can't handle rejections because no one was into me, ever. Rejection itself is understandable but if your whole life is nothing but rejections, this ruins your self confidence
>>56217604Take it from someone who's been on a lot of dates and with a lot of chicks: Sometimes it just happens like that. You won't always have chemistry, but if you DO really hit it off, you go for that kiss at the end
>>56218094My grandpa is loaded rich and he's kind of a player. I'm the bastard son of a bastard daughter. My grandpa was married even though he fucked around a lot, you know what he told my mom when she was a kif? "There are some girls you marry and some you don't". You know what that really means? "She wouldn't lemme smash until marriage." That is the wisest dating strategy for women
>>56217936Terrible advice. Most women don't operate like this, especially ones that still go on traditional dates
>>56225901>>56218686Dudes shut up. Guys gotta make the first move simple as
>>56217911Please be male. The female body can’t handle this much autism.
>>56220168You're a creep. If you're on a date you can go for a kiss. She might still swerve you on first date but at least you make your intentions clear, can't fear getting metood so hard you incel
>>56236045no shit lol but you made it sound rapey cause you didn’t warm up to the kiss. it’s like initiating sex with a girl and going straight for penis in vagoo without any foreplay
>>56236113If you go out on a first date with a girl you already know beforehand, you can do anal with her. but it’s different if it’s your first meet.
>>56220018Then you're not actually as facially ugly as you think you are, or autistic
>>56220997Was she drunk on the third date?
>>56223187If a girl bought you something with nothing in return you are most likely Chad
>>56236348i made a drunk tall girl cry because i couldn't comprehend that a lanklet could ever be into a manlet like me. not even after she bought me a drink did it click. i was brainwashed by /fit/
>>56223187> I literally had a girl once beg to buy me a beer. I got drunk instantly because I almost never drink alcohol.I remember a few girls (including my boss) did that a few years ago at a work dinner we had. I'm loud and boisterous at work but in social situations especially restaurants I completely shut down, I basically sat there for hours barely speaking. I don't drink at these places because I'm a huge lightweight and don't want to humiliate myself
>>56217857>every woman is a whore for the right guy.This shit is PAINFULLY true and my friend has proven it dozens of times. The whole "i want a cutie virgin pure gf" shit is so dumb when you realize she's still a whore regardless of whether or not she's been fucked. She's just more likely to be attached to you, but no matter what, a Chad makes a girl wet and women do not fucking care about ANYTHING once they're wet.
If you didn't at least make out on the first date you either fucked up or she wasn't into you. A lot of you guys seem embarrassed by your sexuality. Like, you guys realize girls LIKE when guys act horny in the right way? You're not going to offend them when you squeeze their hips when you kiss them, or pull their hair a little bit. If you act like a tense high inhibition beta they're going to sense that. You're better off going out in the blaze of glory. If she sticks her tongue in your mouth grab that ass, she wants to feel like a piece of meat. Confirm the attraction first obviously, but push the limit, don't be a puss. >t chad slayer
>>56222795Dude, just chek'em. There's your proof.
>>56217733Godspeed anon Have a (You)
>>56238226t. kissless virgin
>>56217604well you got two hugs, I haven't gotten one in over seven years
>>56232909>caring about a meme virus
>>56218349I'd respond to the woman, but we all know it wouldn't be worth it.Never ask the doe how to hunt.This bitch has emotional baggage she's bringing into a first date. Maybe we all do, but letting it dictate our fuck schedules is not ideal.Really what the woman is saying is that she's bad at making genuine connections so she has to substitute her lack of insight with a program to filter undesirables. If she was more intelligent she would put a stronger filter in the pre-date phase while having a first date methodology that allows for more dynamic outcomes, like fucking.It might not be her fault. Maybe she's not a 8/10 blonde cutie with tons of options. Maybe she's the plan c on everyone's tinder.
>>56223440And you are married? It paid off?Or you just fucked fewer times and have some ego filled fantasy of chivalry?
>>56217733Based dubs, absolutely.
>>56218246I struggle with this as well. And most zoomers have noods or ons.
>>56236348I'm very beautiful but I look like an ancient greek twink statue with very full lips. I think chads look more masculine/sharp and very tall.
>>56218433AgifkGood job man. Always go in for a kiss. I was a viegin until 27, after that I exploded into initiating everything. The only reason why Im single is Im waiting for the special one. But I will have to hit the ocean again since this aint working.
>>56223018If we are selecting our partners online how will this affect the future generations on the long term? I'm guessing autism overloaded
>>5621824699.9999% of girls have had one night standsliterally all girls I've gone on a date with have admitted to having one night stands, all girls I've fucked have had several ons in their pastI've never been romantically involved with a girl that hasn't had a onsbut here I am, the loser that fucks only on the second date, how the fuck do I become one of her one night stands wtf how?
>>56242977It hurts the most when you talk to girls who went on a student exchange, had tons of sex with guys there but are completely indifferent to you. Can you even consider yourself as a man at this point?