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Do I squat/deadlift at the start or the end of the session ?

Half of the starting programs claim start, the other half claim end.

Help pls/
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>>51545097
For better stats you should probably start with it desu when u have the most strength. Do some warm up and get to it. Godspeed
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Based on my personal experience I think squat always comes first UNLESS you're going to deadlift too, in which case DL first.
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>>51545097
deadlift at the start, say you'll squat at the end but skip it anyway
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>>51545143
this
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>>51545143
>deadlift at the start, say you'll squat at the end but skip it anyway
I don't plan on DL and squating at the same day, this is my current plan based on reddit and the last natural programs:

Workout A

3×5+ Squats
3×5+ Bench Press
3×5+ Chinups

Workout B

3×5+ Deadlifts
3×5+ Overhead Press
3×5+ Chinups
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>>51545203
>3 exercises
>Work our
????
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>>51545203
lmao youre at the gym for 20 mins?

on leg days only for squats I do 6 sets
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>>51545288
>>51545299
I've never lifted for more than a month in my life
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>>51545143
>>51545161
>>51545165
>deadlifting before squatting
oh sweeties, don't do this
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>>51545394
Doing it the other way not only fucking blows but has a way higher chance of killing yourself
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>>51545097
I find it better to squat then deadlift. If I deadlift then squat, for some reason my squat really suffers.
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>>51545534
I did pretty good on my dead lift and when I was about to do squats it suffered so bad I had to do half the working weight! Did more volume though so it was kinda a win
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>>51545534
>>51545555
Not planing on deadlifting and squating at the same day.

Workout A

3×5+ Squats
3×5+ Bench Press
3×5+ Chinups

Workout B

3×5+ Deadlifts
3×5+ Overhead Press
3×5+ Chinups
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>>51545589
Yeeeaaaaa that's what I figured out. That's why I'm designating it on pull day and I'll still do some glute bridges and Romanian necrolifts along with squats on legday.
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Whatever type of press at the beginning
Then squats
Then diddlies
Last comes (another) pull
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>complex has squats and deadlifts
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>>51545143
>>51545165
>>51545161
DYEL retards begging for an injury
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>>51545411
You're objectively wrong. Don't give advice unless you can at least squat 3pl8 for 5.

OP, squat first then deadlift, preferably with an intermediary exercise in between the two like bench press to give your lower body some recovery time.

Deadlifting before squats will literally destroy your squats. Squatting before deadlifts hurts your deadlift a little bit but nowhere near as much as vice versa.
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>>51546445

all about that CNS
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>>51546460
Fuck off DYEL
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>>51545097
If youre going for strength, which most people are, you go for squat and deadlift first.
As for hypertrophy, i dont know if it really makes a difference if you do it first or last.

>>51545143
>>51545165
Dont listen to these cunts, they are retarded.

>>51545394 Do listen to this guy though.
There is a reason why powerlifting meets go squat -> bench -> deadlift. Its because squatting isnt as taxing on the body as deadlift, and the bench inbetween is just for resting sake.
>>51545411
Is also true. I care more about my deadlift, than squat, and doing squats first and being 5% worse at deadlifts afterwards is better than doing deadlifts first and being 25% worse at squats afterwards.
My advice is to space out the deadlift and squat days if possible, so you can get rest and only have to focus on 1 lift at a time.

>>51546445
>>51546460
Is true. Squats before deadlift, but if possible, try to squat and deadlift on different days if possible.
If you look at powerlifting programs you always start with squatting, benching or deadlifting. Maybe stretching/mobility work first.

On squat, bench and deadlift just try to progress your strength. (1-5 reps unless you follow a program, in which case you follow the programs order)
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>>51546526

post body
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Always do your big 3 first, just make sure to warm up properly. You want to make sure that you're at your strongest when doing them.
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>>51545097
For strength you squat/dl first always.
For hypertrophy it doesn't really matter, I like to high rep squat/dl last after other exercises. Just don't do tripples after 4 leg exercises, that's retarded.
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>doing squats and deadlifts in the same day



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