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Welcome to /fraud/ steroids general.

Join us on discord
https://discord.gg/usfCQqh

Before asking questions, please be sure you've read the wiki:
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

Once that's done, make sure to include the following alongside your question:
>age
>height
>weight
>bodyfat
>time spent lifting
>girth

Oral-only cycles shut down natural hormone production and put strain on the liver for small results. Just pin. If you're scared of needles, stop being a pussy or accept that you can't use gear.

Even as certified internet doctors, we can't tell you how to dose your AI. It's very individual.

Absolutely no source talk allowed.
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Previously >>50785761
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is callum back?
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>>50812758

Yea. But the tren has completely fucked his brain up.
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>>50812522
what steroids increase stamina/strength simultanously and can still be beneficial 4-5 weeks after u stop taking them? boxer here
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>>50812866
After watching some of his recent videos he seems so slow and out of it, is that acctually due to the ammount of drugs he's blasting?
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>>50812913
estrogen acetate
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>>50812930
I dont know man. His videos used to be very entertaining. But in the last years he hasn't progressed much. Many events caused that like the biceps and knee injurty, the break up with his gf, the bradley martin fiasco etc. If you see his stories on IG you will see that he is constantly eating shit like five-guys and partying at random bars with random people like Jon Skywalker.
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>>50812930
He’s always been slow and out of it nigga. He is a borderline retard with amazing genetics.
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>>50812958
quick rundown of Bradley martin fiasco? first time im hearing about it
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Debating between cruising on 150mg Test E/week or just running Letrazole 25mg/ 3 days. Obviously not looking for cycle tier gains just wanna counteract the chemicals in the water.
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>>50813520

https://generationiron.com/calum-von-moger-versus-bradley-martyn/
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>just get regular bloods

THIS SUCKS
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>>50813896
Jesus fucking christ
You guys over paying

Anyway post bloods when you get a chance...
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>>50813896
What are you running anyway some of those tests you're wasting money on
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How the fuck do you guys not have anger issues running gear
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>>50813903
>You guys over paying

Where should I be getting them done? I don't think my doc gives a shit as long as I get the labs requested.

>Anyway post bloods when you get a chance

Won't be that interesting, I'm just on a TRT protocol and HCG.

>>50813911
Doctor's orders. We're seeing if my current TRT dosage is good. Feels good to me but I think my test might be slightly too high.
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>>50813954
So what are you running

Somewhere between 150-185mg or they start you at 200mg per week

Why are you on TRT/HRT anyway
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>>50813966
140, down from the initial 200. I suffered from low test symptoms and my test was fairly low for my age but not low enough for low test diagnosis. My estrogen however, was extremely low and I was suffering low estrogen symptoms like shitty joints. TRT cured all my symptoms
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>>50814091
How old are you now
Any pre bloodwork?

Are you planning on staying for a long time
I'm planning on dropping the gear use one day and probably even give up lifting but not sure right now
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>>50814137
30, I believe I was 28 when I started treatment. Low test symptoms came hard after I turned 25 but they've been with me for a lot of my life. Pre-bloods I could dig up had my test at 317 and free test at 12.5. Sadly I can't find my old estradiol bloodwork but it was low enough that even my general practitioner knew something was up. I intend to stay on TRT for life because I feel so much better now. It's like any other health issue, if being on my meds makes me feel better I'll stay on my meds.

and if you were thinking of asking, no I never pinned before TRT.
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Former fatty 1 year lifting experience.. in caloric defecit. I want to know what to expect both good and bad from doing only 1 cycle ever. Will i keep the gains, is it gonna fuck me up etc
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>age
28
>height
173cm
>weight
82kg
>bodyfat
13%
>time spent lifting
12 years
>girth
22mm

Want to get on TRT (100mg of Test-C E3D), is my bodyfat % too high? I have read that at higher bodyfat % you will see more side effects.

Also I intended to never cycle off the TRT and take HCG which I also will not cycle off.
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>>50812958
>people like Jon Skywalker

Jon Skywalker seems like a cool dude but in now way should you idolise him or take any advice from him (other than not caring what people think).

If Calum was smarter he would keep going to golds and hanging with people who prioritise gym in their life and want to get good at their sport and reach new limits.
seems like calum has realised that he will never get to olympia stage and iv even heard you're lucky to walk without a limp after fucking up your leg like that.
Poor bloke but didn't really deserve it.
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>>50814365
Get 10% but it’s okay 500mg test
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>>50814830
10% is doable.

Why 500mg? I just want to get to normal levels.
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>>50814971
If your never going get off might as well BnC or just go 350 mg then go back down to 125 mg but it’s up to you my first cycle was 350 mg made decent gains
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>>50814350
Higher BF likely more sides you’ll be a bloated mess but yes you’ll lose the water weight after cycle just keep the calories high and intensity in the gym you’ll keep most
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Been on TRT for 3 years. Circumstances have changed and I’m going to try and get off. PCT rec’s?
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>>50815203
hcg clomid nova use hcg before nova/clomid
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>>50815203
what circumstances make you want to stop? anything health related?
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>>50815359
fuckign roid raging cunt
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>>50815359
Post hair routine please
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>>50815329
Maybe he's travelling somewhere and won't be able to pin himself during this time
>>50815359
Also concerned about your hair
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>>50815203
I've gone through pretty much the same situation. I'm guessing you're trying to have kids. Anyway, I followed this routine that I got off testosterone nation. the forum is gay as fuck, but there's this dude KSman or something that's VERY knowledgeable and recommended this both for PCT (as in after a real cycle) or coming off trt.

start HcG 250iu/EoD
after two weeks, stop testosterone injections
start administering aromasin (exemestane) at 12.5 EoD
continue dosing HcG at 250iu/EoD for two more weeks until the test clears out of your system
stop HcG
start using nolva (tamoxifen) at 20mg EoD
keep this going for 4 weeks
get blood testing done
if FSH, LH and test levels are in a good range, keep going. if not, go back to trt for life and forget about it, either your HPTA or your testes are fucked.
If values are good:
taper off the nolva for two weeks, cutting dose in half each week
stop nolva
taper off exemestane for a couple more weeks.

Done.

If your testes hang low and libido is back to normal, you're good to go. You probably won't be fertile for a few months since spermatogenesis takes about 3 months, but you should be up and running.

I did this and got extremely good results. 10 months later I'm absolutely recovered and even have a higher libido than when I started trt. go figure.

Good luck.
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>>50812958
Who was the girlfriend? The half asian girl with the bolt on tits?
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I want to cut for summer, im fatass but really strong. Clen or eca ? Is getting e even possible in europe?
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>>50812958
I followed him in the past. He seemed like a swell guy. Call me a shut in or whatever but partying ruined many people like that
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How much should I be jerking off on 500mg Test/pw?
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>>50813896
uh it’s $150 for full panel on privatemdlabs lmao
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>>50815996
ECA, almost as effective metabolically as Clen butwithout the sides, and also nukes your appetite to zero.
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What stats do I need to find out from bloodtests? Im in BE/NL, how does one get bloods here?
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Hey guys worried about gyno. These are my nips as they usually appear wearing cotton t-shirts. I don't think they changed since getting on gear and I've felt no itchiness at all (I heard this was the first sign) - it's winter where I live if that helps? Is this potentially gyno? I am at 25-30% body fat, I guess but losing about half a kilo to a kilo a week.

My cycle is 500mg E3.5D with no AI as of yet. I can't get bloods done right now so all AI and estrogen levels are judges and based off feel. Any advice would be great especially from some of the trips around.

Also some exercises don't really feel like they are hitting the right muscles - I have a PPLPPLX with three days based on power/strength to up the big 4 and three days based on volume (I posted it to CCFC in previoud /fraud/ thread). Say if I do face pulls at 20 or more reps with light weight my rear delts will light up like sun, with an ungodly burn and awesome pump. Obviously the stregrh/power days I'm not worried about this but on volume days I do lat pulldown and barely feel it activate the muscle despite following all cues (using hands as hooks and contracting lats at bottom) - I've tried close grip, wide grip, leaning back. I'm having the same trouble with rows, I tried moving to Pendlays with better results but still feel like they are destroying my lower back and not doing much for any other muscles there.

I guess I'm after some advice on back ever use I can use to get a good burn and pump going at high volume as well as something to replace hip thrust for quads. Also am I being paranoid or do I have gyno?

Sorry for the blog post /fraud/.
Cheers boys.
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>>50817010
you may be getting psuedo gyno if your estro is high, but not high enough to have painful nips and actual glands grow. That is, your bodyfat may accumulate around your chest more than it would have natty, but no actual tits growing

For back, always go a little lighter and think about a two stage movement.

1st: pull your shoulder blades down/back depending on if it's row/lat pulldown. Think of the same movement you do when benching where you pull shoulder blades together before you lie down

2nd: then pull arms down and finish movement

Thanks for subscribing to my blog response
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>>50816833
Thanx, im not asking for sources but is it possible to get it in Europe at all? Or only shady ug from china that could fuck me up
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Just started my first cycle. 200 mg test cyp and expect to go up as the weeks progress. Just wanted to gauge my reaction. Any advice or what to expect? How about realistic expectations of gains?
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>>50817165
eca is ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin, dude. ephedrine is legal over the counter in a bunch of countries.
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>>50817095
Is there anything I can do for pseudo gyno? Besides losing fat as fast as possible? Will nolva knock it back or am I destined to soldiers at attention nips for life?

Those cues are really helpful, I assume with number two that applies for pulling arms up (If rowing).

Thanks for your help, mate. I really appreciate it. I find heavy Kroc rows and sitting cable rows are the only thing that let's me get a burn. I think maybe I need to work on form. Thanks again.
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>>50817325
Nolvadex
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once you start taking illegal testosterone can you tell your doctor? or can they report you
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>>50817333
20 ed and keep lifting at 500test e a week,? I've heard bad reporrts of brain fog and the like. Anyone with experience chime in?
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How keepable are adrol gains?

Gonna do a gram of test and 25mg dbol for four months. Adrol pulsing worth the lethargy?
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>>50817179
Curious about this since this will probably be similar to my first cycle
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>>50817747
Nolva is most commonly used during PCT so gets a bad rep for sides associated with PCT.
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>>50817787
Adrol is fucking insane, I ran only 25mg and gained 15 lbs in 3 weeks.
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>>50817946
Yeah lol, same shit I've been hearing from experience reports. How much you keep after coming off and is the mystery gyno real?
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>>50817747
you're going to run 500mg and pct?
what in the actual fuck?
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>>50818657
What do you mean?
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>>50812522
I ordered 2 vials of test e and I noticed one of the vials exp date is different on the small box it came in. The other one is the same 'lot but exp date is the same on the vial and box. Could it be a fake one?
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>>50818676
pct is post cycle therapy.. why would you still be on gear and doing pct?
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>>50818685
he's running nolva to help with gyno. it's not just a pct compound you retarded monkey, don't try to answer questions or belittle people with your day 1 knowledge.
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>>50818712
youre parroting shit youve mistakenly read here before you fucking retard. nobody uses nolva for gyno.
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>>50813896
>paying for meme work because natties and stranger on the internet is peddling it as a necesaty
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>>50818712
and please for the love of god post timestamped body
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>>50818712
>Nolvadex doesnt have the ability to reduce estrogen in the body nor does it have the ability to prevent it from forming and building up; for such an affect to occur one would need an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI.) AIs actively reduce estrogen in the body, most commonly Arimidex and Letrozole come to mind but they also aid in preventing the estrogen
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>>50818712
very few people benefit from nolve preventing gyno fuckface.. AI does that much better.
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>>50818727
>>50818777
hurrrr durrrr hurrrr

>>50818809
you're an absolute moron who doesn't even understand how estrogen receptors work or how nolvadex acts as a serm
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how do roids close growth plates if its estrogen that closes them?
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>>50819215
aromatization
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Am I not natty once I use clen?
It's not even anabolic
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>>50812522
Ah Hell Yeah! Always wanted to make my dick smaller than it already is op Thanks
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>>50819314
so if you keep popping adex you’ll be good?
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Anyone have a link on how to make nasal spray?
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>>50817179
>>50817820
Same here
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>>50819410
if you keep your estrogen within range you'll be fine, yes. that's not an excuse to roid as a teenager though, there are other possible issues.
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>>50819650
>that's not an excuse to roid as a teenager though
it is for me
natty test was geriatric-tier at 18
05 fuck em my niggas lets cultivate this mass
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What kind of physique could I get with only test cycles? Any pros do that? Test cycles are so easy n chill, sides are way less severe etc... I just wanna be a big thicc guy. Can high test cycles do that? Deca is nice but it makes my BP and dick suck.
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>>50819410
>>50819893
Taking test+mk677+adex in your teens will make you a tall+robust slayer. I knew this kid who was only 70-5ish kg@190cm back in 9th grade and started taking all of the aforementioned stuff. By the end of high school he was a 2m 140kg beast. As long as you control your estrogen and don't take hard-core stuff like tren, you'll definitely reach or even get above your genetic potential. The only downside is you'll be stuck on it for life but honestly who gives a shit? Your life will be 100x better just for a small inconvience.
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is equipoise a mistake?
.t just ate 10000 calories today and still eating
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>>50820193
yes it's not gonna help you grow much
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>>50819379
Steroids don't make your dick small, brainlet.
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>>50812958
Jon Skywalker and his "crew" sometimes work out at my gym. One of his crew is a regular and I see him all the time. They are pretty cringy. Honestly brought my opinion of Calum down when I learned that he hangs out with them
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>>50817218
Lol thanx, they had 120mg , if its that simple to get it why was eca stacks banned ?
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>>50818680
Yeah its fake pharma then. Drug companies dont make these mistakes
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>>50817787
My understanding was that it's more water gains than dbol. Having taken both, I'm prob never running anadrol again but probably will use dbol. Anadrol just made me feel sick the whole time, looked juicy but it was alot of water too and my BP was impossible to control. Dbol won't blow you up as much but the sides are from estrogen mostly so it's a little easier to manage them. Gains for me are better with dbol because my appetite doesn't go to hell, and dat sweet estrogen makes me happy not sickly. Pretty sure estrogen is the only reason dbol is "less toxic" than anadrol.
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>>50812522
Is hcg actually necessary to restart hormone production? This guy says you need it but I'm thinking he's overreacting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcZ7o6OIkC4
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>>50820936
no, hcg doesnt help with recovery at all.
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>>50813539
cruise on a gram
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>>50817179
I did 300 my first cycle I gained 20 kept 15 just eat lift rest eat
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>>50817165
not sure if this counts as source talk (if it is delete it and warn me and I won't do it again) but a lot of UK and Greek sellers are borderline pharma tier quality and as easy as amazon to order from
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>never believed steroids affect dick size
>no change in dick size after b&c for a few years and running lots of test and heavily androgenic compounds
>10 weeks into 400mg of deca (with 800mg test and kicked with 50mg adrol) and noticably longer and girthier
what is this sorcery? surely if anything makes it bigger it'd be tren or DHTs like mast and proviron and not deca?
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>>50821654
think higher estrogen can add girth

because when I crashed my e2 my dick was way thinner than normal
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>>50821628

Nudge me into the right direction. I'm sick of shit USA china bathrub raws sellers that I've come across
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>>50815203
You don't need PCT, it's an internet meme that makes dealers more money than they make off gear.

Been on test 4 years straight, came off without issues.
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im getting my test checked next week by the doctor. im natty atm so how can i tank my natural test so i can get on dat dere free TRT?
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>>50820936
Of course it isn't. You think all the thousands of bodybuilders who used steroids before hcg/clomid became popular all went infertile and never recovered?
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>>50821740

Drink alcohol the night before the test.

On a real note, good luck. I've done something similar and have low test (322 and 280 levels), he sent me an endocrinologist, who still in the end did not want to put on trt. It was a long process of bullshit. Just find someone who specializes in trt/hrt
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>>50821599
This is the retarded advice you get from this board
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>>50821729
You don't need, but it accelerates the recovery.
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>>50821696
Mine was thinner as well actually when I crashed my e2. Test alone makes my dick bigger because I get a better quality of erection desu. Hard as diamonds every time.
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Prior to using roids in your regiment, did you guys wake up daily with morning wood? No homo
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>>50822542
How much AI did you take that you crashed your e2?
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>>50822654
no, but then again I had natty test of 164
(yeah.. fuck me, right?)
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>>50822654
yes, with roids it is now just to an absurd degree. Hard to the point it wakes me up throughout the night at times
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>>50821740
If you want to pin fucking pin
Purposefully tanking your test levels for a test thereby depriving yourself of actually useful information is asinine.
Especially because medical TRT tends to be fucking idiotic and meant to keep you within normal ranges without much concern for quality of life (eg every month 250mg of test injections)
You do not need anyone's permission to use steroids, take ownership of what you want to do.
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Can't get test c to draw with a 30 ga insulin needle. What am I doing wrong?
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What is the GOLD STANDARD stack for Gymshark Prettyboys?
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>>50822935
Genetics
Good lighting
Anavar if I had to guess
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>>50821625
Fuck that’s impressive, how many weeks?
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>>50813481
>amazing genetics.
he can't even get a pro card
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>>50822829
Uh... you're using a 30g needle to draw. That's what you're doing wrong. I mean maybe putting some air in the vial through the needle would help but I doubt it.
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>>50823220
Fucker. Those are the only pins I was able to find
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>>50820936
No.
But it will speed up the process and using it concurrently with your cycle will prevent ball shrinkage completely and protect your test levels and route the cholesterol build up.

Feorce is correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzASMuKu4gw
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>>50822935
Low bodyfat
TRT or slightly above doses
Anavar or winstrol if they don't have the money.
Lighting
Photoshop
Huge capacity camera that can take 10000000 photos and the tenacity to pick through all of them and get that one single nice picture.
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>>50823283
Amazon sells 23g needle/syringe combos for pretty cheap. That's what I use.
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>9weeks left into first cycle
>Thinking about adding tren

Should I do it bros? I was thinking test would turn me into a wild beast but it didn't, so tren should do the trick right?
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>>50823531
How many weeks have you completed?
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>>50823548
9 as well, halfway through
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>>50823568
Hmmm, how much weight have you gained ? Did you take before pictures sometimes it’s hard to gauge your growth since you see yourself everyday. But if you slept eat and lifted you should notice a difference anon. What’s your dosage?
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Had to stop Tren E 1 month in. Physical side effects were not actually that bad, insomnia kinda sucks but I don't sleep well pre tren. Started being neurotic / dick to the girl who I am lucky to have so called it off. Going to just do 800 Test for rest of cycle.
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>>50812522
If I'm using Test E and only taking 500 mg can I get away with pinning twice a week?
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Anyone know how to deal with sides from SARMS?

I took some SARM pills for like a month and now my cum is super clear. Like... it looks like water. It's thick but there's no color. Is my dick gonna fall off?
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>>50823624
200mg test c EOD, I've gained about 3kg so far, but I am eating clean maintenance calories cuz I got some lard to burn
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>>50823448
Thanks
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>28
>193cm
>92kg
>12%
>4 years
>7”
Is Supertest 400 appropriate for a first cycle?
It consists of test P 25mg/test C 187mg/test E 188mg.
Its 400mg/ml
The main reason is I want the test P to kick in quicker, is 25mg enough to be worth it before the cyp and E kick in?
I am away from the wife until September so would run a 10 week cycle pinning 0.4 or 0.5ml eod
And Hcg 2 x a week @ 250IU
.5mg of Arimadex EOD
Then Nolva 40/40/20/20 2 weeks after last pin.
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>>50824174
Hey man that’s not bad at all anon, keep up the good work. It’s easy to let the propaganda get to your head that you basically become a hulk but that’s solid progress.’keep up the good work, I’d suggest staying on what you have but if you decide to stack do your research. Besides there’s always time to cycle later. Cheers anon
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>>50824351
Thanks bro, I visited my family on mother's day and the first thing I hear when I walk in is that I "look like Captain America" kek feels good man

But honestly what I meant by wild beast is the mental stuff you know, the aggression on the weights, the mega boners and primal urge to fuck, the pheromones... I've heard tren described as "zyzz in a bottle" and that honestly sounds quite appealing brah
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Bulking on Masteron? Anybody try it?
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>>50824014
Yes 2 @ 250mg is what most people do, monday morning and thursday night to divide the dosage perfectly
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Quick question, i just got me some stanabol 100 and it's white. This is my first time using the shit. Is it supposed to look like skim milk?
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>>50824636
Yep, thats how winstrol should look.
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>>50823211
He hasn't even attempted to get one
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>>50824572
neat
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>>50812522
anyone else get mad stomach pains on Nolva? I feel like I took a punch in the gut 5 minutes ago... except all day..
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>>50824259
Just buy test E or test C, don't reinvent the wheel. The short esters necessitate you pin more frequently than a beginner would want, or ride a hormone rollercoaster.
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>>50824996
You're supposed to take it with food, numbnuts.
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So my supply site's telling me that I should use a second personal wallet when I'm paying with BTC. Is this to keep the feds off my ass or more of just good practice?
(I don't plan on using my wallet for anything other than buying roids and I'll only put money in it immediately before purchasing.)
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>>50825027
The pinning doesn’t worry me, and the 4 weeks before the test e would kick in seems wasteful, as I have a time restriction and extending the cycle to 12 weeks isn’t really an option. Ideally i would do test e for 12-14 weeks, then 6 weeks of Pct but its not an option.
10 weeks max, maybe could push to 11 but need muh dick to work before sept.
Also 2 vials of supertest is cheaper than the 3 vials of the test E I would need.
And could always drop back to every 3.5 days once the cyp and E are active.
Doubt I would miss the 25mg prop or would notice it desu.
Is there any reason why a test blend with prop is a bad idea for a newb? They’re esentially the same with varying esters.
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>>50825253
If you don't wanna wait for the saturation time then just buy a short ester test.
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>>50825076
fugg nobody told me that
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>>50825310
My source had it printed on the bottle. Yours didn't?
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>>50823150
14 wks no sides but I did do MasT hair routine incase
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what app do you guys use to track your weights on workouts
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>>50824505
Doing this currently, only 400mg though. In theory it keeps me drier and hornier.
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stop shit talking EQ

5 weeks into 1200mg right now so it should be kicking in soon

after 16-20 weeks I’ll post my results and then you’ll all be running it
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Is it easy to get hCG prescribed?
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>>50825822
yeah if you’re a woman
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>>50825609
A notebook.

>>50825765
>5 weeks into 1200mg
>should be kicking in soon
Bruh.
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>>50825860
1200 is a moderate dose
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>>50825276
Yeah thats a fair point
I just want to stay away from Dbol tabs as I did enough liver damage in my younger years
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>>50824996
happened a few times last cycle i would get stomach cramps all day.
but yea as others say pretty much any oral you take even if its ibuprofen or a multi always best to take it with food
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Is frequent urination a sign of high or low estrogen?
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>>50826276
Think about this logically. If high estrogen bloats you by causing water retention, do you think that involves your body excreting more or less water?

You should be able to solve this.
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>>50820108
>mk677
fuck that gay shit. GH should give the same effect yea?
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>>50826294

I have already thought about this but I keep wondering, if my estrogen is low/crashed then how come my nips are puffy and sometimes hurt?

Im currently on cruise dosage 150mg/wk test e, 30mg anavar ED and 2x 0.5mg adex/wk.

>inb4 your var is bunk

Its one if not THE most trusted source available. I also tested the var with 2 different testing kits and it came out as var.
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>>50826379
>trt test
>2x 0.5mg adex/wk.

lmfao
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>>50826386

I know its fucking overkill but I don't know what else to take for my puffy nips. I already tried nolva, letro, asin, ralox, and even proviron and none really helped.
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so this chick canceled on me last week but now I see she’s sending me shit on Snapchat and I figure she wants to hang out

but I feel like if I let her bail on me last week and then when she wants to hang I agree it’s beta as fuck

agreed?
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>>50817010
Awww little roid baby got gyno. Now you can milk your tits and drink your own milk while you cry yourself to sleep little baby
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>>50826659
epic meme my dude
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Will taking steroids really make my pp small?
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>>50826411
why do you give a fuck? as long as there’s no lumps who cares.
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>>50826766
Yes and you will go bald, enjoy :^)
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>>50826645
it’s beta that you’re overthinking it
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>>50812522
Von moger is on the mega chad list

Lundgren is giga chad tier
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>>50817010
Jumping on roids before you even learned how to lift
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>>50826822
Von Moger has become a complete walking meme now. He dresses as a fucking cowboy wannabe and dyes his hair black/brown/blonde for a some fucking reason. His beard also looks fucking nasty tbqh. He looked WAY better with a shaved face and good haircut like pic related.
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>>50826862
yet he looks better than everyone itt by a long shot
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You guys said this stuff wasnt any good.. You guys lied.

Two weeks in; will post a month progress pic but the appetite and sleep alone might be the rootnof these sudden gains. Also i have herniated l4 and l5 discs and havent had a pain free day in over ten years except for this ENTIRE last week.

I can deadlift and squat, bend over to pick shit up, everything without bracing myself or considering my back. Coincidence??
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>>50826914
>Also i have herniated l4 and l5 discs and havent had a pain free day in over ten years except for this ENTIRE last week.

fuck off boomer
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>>50826914
Did you only buy from proven peptides?

I got good results from them but got less good results from other places and I don't know if its because they also put prohormones in their shit.

I did it to try it an as soon as I stopped I felt like i was coming of of a cycle. I got some stuff from purerawz and I dont think its 100% legit but it also doesn't make me want to kill myself.
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>>50826936

Which compounds did you try running?

>>50826919

Happened when i was 19 doing landscaping, shoveling river rocks. You should always mostly use your back and heave the rocks with a jerking/twisting motion, essentially removing your legs from the equation altogether
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>>50817010
It's probably not actual gyno but is instead a fuck load of water retention on account of you being a fat fuck. Increase your water/electrolyte intake and take an AI.
If the exercises that you are doing are not working for you why are you doing them?
Lat exercise wise you could try: Rack chinups, (assisted) pullups, one armed barbell rows, db rows pulled to your hip, pullovers, john meadows style stretchers, one armed pulldowns while feeling your lat contract with your other arm, injecting your lats the day before you train your back so the post injection soreness helps with the mind muscle connection
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>>50825765
EQ gives me fucking bad bacne and the appetite increase that I get from it persists for longer than I'd like
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>>50826947
I wasn't doing anything else at the time. I have/had a rhomboid strain and some hip issues and I wanted to see if it would help.

It helped both and my hip issues haven't come back.
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>>50826967

I meant which compounds from provenpeptides? Same as me?

Running 677 at 12.5mg/day and ostarine at 25mg/day split in two doses. Will run both for three months
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>>50826961
>appetite increase
>ever a bad thing

twink spotted
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>>50826976
Just mk 677. I bought some mk2866 from them and some rad-140 but i couldn't get clomid so I didn't take them.
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>>50826976
I also ran 20mg mk677. Hunger was amazing
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>>50826997

From my understanding, 2866 is non-suppressive and very mild. Ive got nolva and clomid on hand just in case, though.
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>>50826987
it's the other way round, retard
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I’ve never seen any if you guys worry about lipids. Check this link, just a food for thought.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PEDsR/comments/b8btjb/temporarily_bad_lipids_may_be_worse_than_you_think/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
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>>50827055
>reddit link
Yeah, fuck off
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>>50827075
Certain niche subreddits are okay. Also enjoy your bad lipids and CAD, faggot.
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>>50827055
>reddit

This guys are legit too scared to run creatine lmao
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>>50827092
>not knowing the meme
lurk moar, newfag
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>>50827075
>r/steroids wiki literally required reading before posting here
>muh plebbit link
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>>50825765
You're lying. 1.2g of EQ per/week should have an effect already. That's most peoples frontload lmao
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>6 days on clen with 1500 calorie deficit cut and HIIT
>lose 13lbs
>still no side effects
God I love this shit
Also should I do a 3 week cycle with ketotifen? Dont really wanna run it for more than 3 weeks
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are there any other roids that pad the fuck out of your joints the way deca does without inducing a shitton of LVH the way deca does?
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Just started a gram of test gon get huge wish me luck lads! :D :D XD
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>>50827900

first cycle btw
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>>50822829
>cant fit my dick through a cheerio
if you could, i’d be very concerned
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>>50826379
>Im currently on cruise dosage 150mg/wk test e, 30mg anavar ED and 2x 0.5mg adex/wk.

If you need to take adex lower your test. see how you feel at 120
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>>50812913
4 to 5 weeks after taking anything your gonna start to crash and need pct.

For a boxer assuming lite HW or HW and first cycle, something like 750mg Equipoise and 500mg Test Enth would be amazing. Probably need a low to moderate dose of A.I, Adex 1mg 2 or 3x a week, depending on estrogen sides.

For a lite weight maybe 500mg Eq and 250 to 500mg test?
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>>50827156
See>>50827103
fucking newfags get out
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>>50828449
Whoa there, Mr. 4chan internet warrior
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might be wrong thread , but nowhere else to ask on this board without make a new thread, so im curious how long does it take to run 10km? not as skill to manage to run it, but as time spend running without taking any breaks? an hour, two h, more?
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>>50828920
>might be wrong thread , but nowhere else to ask on this board
There's literally a running thread in the catalog since two days
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>>50828739
uhm excuse me, good sir, but I guess what you meant to say was "4channel"
:^)
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>>50829061
ye i saw it now, i was looking for some sort of a questions thread..
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What would be the effect of taking a low dose of a "mildly" suppressive oral (such as anavar or tbol) during the 2-3 weeks after a cycle but before pct, assuming you've taken hcg for the last six weeks of the cycle? Will it just keep natural testosterone production suppressed that much longer, or could it allow some production while also helping retain muscle mass?
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>>50828920
You should aim to be allow 1h. You'll keep a nice pace at all times and will feel it at that 7km point.
Shaving additional minutes off of the 50mins mark can be considered hard.
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>>50820785
120mg ephedrine? mine comes in 8mg tablets
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>>50826645
smash her.. toss her in the gutter and go get another anon
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>>50822829
You're buying GSO shit made by a shit UGL. Buy only MCT or Mig840 (the clear liquid, not the piss colored GSO shit).

If you're poor and retarded, leverage a hairdryer and warm up your vials on high for a few minutes. It should make the oil less viscous and easier to draw.
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>>50829337
I already fucked her on the first date but she legit has a facefucking fetish which is hot as fuck.
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>>50825276
>>50825253
Holy fuck why are you both so retarded. Frontload. Literally, get saturated within a week you absolute retarded apes.
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>>50827103
I'll have you know I've been on 4chan since '07 and will tell you without any hesitation it's a bad meme that only people who joined in '16 use. Every old fag

also makes sure to space his

replies out properly so he doesn't come off like

some fat-fingering lard sack mouthbreathing cunt

that never went to grade school and leared what MLA format is
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General quality has gone way down now that all the trips are gone. I miss all of you. Now we have people that don't even do roids opining on roids and this guy >>50825405 who's probably only ran two cycles.
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>>50829427
nobody is forcing you to stay anon
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>>50829414
no, the meme is that fraud threads begin with:
">reddit link
Yeah, fuck off"
I made a shitty attempt at reviving that /fraud/-meme, but you all seem to be too much of newfags and/or brainlets to get it
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>>50829461
Yeah, you're right. I'm just whining. I'll go now, thanks for the reminder. No sarcasm.
>>50829466
Is this plus double retardism? The point of
>reddit link
yeah fuck off

Is to tell people to fuck off for complaining about the reddit link. Are you trying to pull a flipsie 180 ol lickeroo on me mr. cookies pls by bringing back an even more dead meme?
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>>50829492
>mr cookies
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>>50829546
Pls go, Jeff.
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>>50829492
yes, that was the joke. congratulations, I hereby reward you with gold and an ebic lululul r/whoooosh yikes bruh
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>>50829584
Go away, zoomer. In my day, jokes were funny.
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Going to pin for the first time on Monday to start my cycle up. I'm nervous. Anybody have any tips?
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>>50829619
Larger gauges means there's less likely a chance for infections. It has to do with the perforation left over from the needle. Smaller gauge needles create micro lacerations that are too small for the body to effectively supply immune cells. Whereas larger needles create larger areas that allow the immune system to fight infections faster and more aggressively.

Think about like a highway. 30g is like a one-lane, two-way dirt road in bumfuck nowhere. 18g is like a double 5-lane German autobahn. Immune cells can easily go to the infection and quickly leave with the infected material when their path is enormous. Not so much on a tiny road, where not enough immune cells can be provided quick enough to stop the infection in its tracks. Neither is there enough room for "used up" immune cells (the ones that sacrifice themselves to stop the infection, it's basically what puss is) to be efficiently removed from the wound. This is the reason some infections need to be "drained" or "lanced," because the circulation highway is just too small and too backed up that the body can't perform the action itself manually, and needs outside intervention.
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>>50829619
exhale as the needle goes in. you will soon love the feeling of watching the oil being pushed in
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>>50829590
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me.... etc. pp. ad infinitum
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I got a bloodtest for the following:
Total testosterone
Free testosterone
Sex hormone binding globulin
Estradiol
LH
FSH

Should I have asked for anything else? The purpose is to see if I am low test
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>>50829717
>pp
Yo bro, you gay? I'm not gay bro, but like you need me to help apply that DHT cream on your balls? No homo, btw I fuck women.
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>>50829735
>current year +18-(2*3^2)
>still falling for the women meme
a-anon, I...
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>>50829902
Ssh, little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. Your hear me, sugar? Perfect. Don't ever change. You deserve everything and anything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.
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>>50829363
Idonteven.
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Reminder this is also fraud. If they have enough muscle mass and visible abs, they probably fraud.
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>>50830033
>enough muscle muscle

uhhh that’s achievable in a year of natty lifting
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>>50830043
then achieve it, show us
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>>50830020
Lol fight me Crucy cock fuck club. The only thing I wouldn't want to warm up is tren. Too unstable of a compound, can't even store it for too long before it starts degrading into trash.
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>>50830033
plus/or lypo
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>>50829427
But what have I said wrong? I just kinda answer beginner questions because that's the bulk of this thread.
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I’m about to start my first cycle. It’s going to be anavar only in a calorie deficit while lifting 6 days a week.
Thought?
Suggestions?
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>>50830104
I almost feel bad about chewing into your plump ass, because you're so civil, but here goes my boy:
>>50823220
The current widely accepted answer should be: "If you can only use 30g, warm up your vial and don't forget to inject air to add a bit of pressure." Yes, adding air does make it easier. I've done it with thick as fuck test before with 30g slins. Everything makes a difference.
>>50825276
The current best-case answer would be "If you don't want to wait for saturation time, frontload." Using short esters to kickstart is an outdated technique.

Honestly, dude you haven't done anything wrong. I'm just in an anal mood right now and feel like being one of those stackexchange "acktchuelly" fucks. Stick around though, you're actually not braindead and these communities need people like that.
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>>50827055
>I’ve never seen any if you guys worry about lipids.
so you've been here for a week?
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ty testosterone for the irrational confidence to just shoot my shot on whatsapp
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>>50830203
Boy, wait till you find out what tren does.
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>>50830214
I thought the whole tren and tranny attraction was a jokey joke until it happened to me
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>>50830223
I fell in love and eloped with my cousin on tren. Then I got off and it was like "Eh, maybe this isn't a great idea."
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>>50830171
Yeah I forgot about front loading, and since needles are cheap I didn't even think about heating the gear to use the smaller needles. You have to admit, drawing with 30g isn't ideal.
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>>50830052
dude he’s like 140-150 lbs lmfao
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>>50830414
his dick at least 9 lbs
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>>50830323
>You have to admit, drawing with 30g isn't ideal.
Yeah, it's trash. I only do it because I'm lazy and stingy. Draw and pin with the same slin.
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>>50830435
25g even sucks when you dont warm up your oil.
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>>50826377
GH should be considerably more effective, but it's ridiciously expensive and very hard to get a hold of. MK-677 is much cheaper and should give good enough results during puberty.
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>>50830156
read the sticky
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>>50829619
Have a hot bath, warm the oil, have a beer or two, and enjoy the rush of doing it for the first time.

I'd pin the quad if I were you - look at some videos on youtube so you get the placement right - you want the lateral head.
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Anons, where do you buy your BTC? I've tried coinbase but I dont want to wait 14 days to transfer the funds and my card on coinmama isnt getting through. Is there another place where I can quickly buy and transfer funds to a wallet?
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>>50831484
i use shakepay
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>>50831498
in canada* btw
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>>50831509
Damn, I'm in the US
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>>50831484
coinmama is the best once you're verified, taking a couple days for verification is normal.

coinbase is instant if you link your debit card (or credit card once you've spent enough on there)

squarecash and circle pay are both instant and very easy to use but just like coinmama you'll have to go through a verification that might take a day or two.

localbitcoins if you want to deal with real people and inflated prices
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>>50817787
Very keepable. Most of my gains from blasts like 75% all come from the weeks on drol
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>>50831601
I think my bank is preventing coinmama from working, calling them didnt resolve anything

On coinbase my card isnt getting linked

Trying squarecash now but I cant seem to get my ID to scan. Have you used it before?

Haven't tried circle pay yet
Thanks for the info
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>>50830062
Ahaha cock fuck club
Kek’d
What about warming up a nice twink on a long winters night?
Just a little fire, couple brandys, bottle of poppers and a bag of cialis
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>>50829279
Turns out can't get pure ephe at the pharmacy it comes mixed with some other shit. Is that what people take with eca ?
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>>50831829
pure ephedrine.
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>>50831865
Hefe?
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>>50831829
In the US, people mostly use Bronkaid these days, since it has ephedrine in it. You can buy it over the counter, you just have to ask for it, and they put you on a list to make sure you aren't buying it super often to make drugs.
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>>50831829
i dont think so. you could try clen or albuterol for a similar effect (they are all diff compounds with their own risks mind you) and DNP if you might want to die
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>>50830214
I want to do a tren blast so bad, the stories about it that don't involve fucking a tranny are incredible
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>>50818680
Steroids don’t really expire, you could get a roid testing kit for 50 bones on the internet.
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>>50824151
Did you go to the doctor lol
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>>50830171
>current best-case answer
The current best case answer is never come off, if you're always blasting you never have to wait for saturation
YOTG BBI.
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>tfw feel amazing and strong and big while bulking
>tfw facial aesthetics ruined
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Girl here
How much clen is too much for me?
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>>50812522
Just wondering if any of you guys have used some NexGen pharma gear, any reviews any opinions, just ordered some and i'm not getting any reviews or info...
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>>50830203
rip lel
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>>50831484
bitbargain
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I’m gyno prone, which is less likely to give me gyno, dbol or adrol? Or should I just not fuck with either of them?
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>>50835380
the likelihood of getting gyno depends on how much AI and caber you have on hand, not the compound
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>>50831804
Sounds almost a bit homosexual
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Anyone had success with using TB500 for an AC Joint problem?

>>50833931
LONDON
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Getting ready for my first big-boy bulking cycle. 350/600/750 Test E/Tren E/EQ per week for 16-20 weeks, 4 week kick start and end with 50mg Tbol ED. Thoughts? Planning on front loading the EQ and starting with a moderate surplus, around 3200kcal
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>>50835380
I got gyno from dbol in just one nipple. I'm taking dbol and cruising on test rn. Idk why just an experiment I'm killing time till babys first 4+ month blast. Trying to go from twink to big boo.

My point is it can be controlled with adex or nolva. I'm popping 20mg nolva a day and 20 mg dbol
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>>50836692
Tbol is trash dispose of it in the garbage where it belongs. You absolutely wont feel any of that tbol at 40mg a day just makes you feel greasy as well
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>>50836692
Mirin the cycle, Planning almost exactly the same cycle even TBol, except
500 test e
300 tren e
600 bold c, would be higher dosage preferably but its a ton of oil. unlike EQ which commonly comes in 600mg/mL concentrations.

Curious, whyd you choose to go low test / high tren instead of the other way?
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>>50836717
Why do you say that? I heard it's the shit as far as lean, dry gains from an oral goes

>>50836949
I hate dealing with e2 and bloat, I want to stay as lean and dry as possible throughout the bulk. Lmao my EQ came in 250mg/ml so I'll be pinning 6ml of EQ/week for the first two weeks. I'm not even sure where I'll be putting it yet, I'm not certain how much oil certain injection sites can hold
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>>50825159
God i want to fuck yang
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>>50813896
I got my lab results back from a 500 test e cycle, paid 15 doll hairs and got everything from hormones, blood and liver all done
Freetest at 3400
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>>50837207
the levels should be 5-7x the test dosage it looks like you are good
>>
JUST
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I'm on tren E since 2 weeks and not solely attracted to traps yet, what am I doing wrong ?????
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>>50837351
u ok breh?
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>>50837396
it means you're not a homosexual that's coping by blaming it on tren
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>>50837499
This. Tren just makes you horny, if you want to jerk off a cross dressing man while on you’ve always been a faggot deep down.
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>>50837396
it's only been 2 weeks

>>50837667
tren really affected me mentally after a couple of months. noticeably made me into more of a degenerate and made me watch more fucked up porn.
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>>50838062
that’s just an increased sex drive + porn addiction
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>>50836669
Nothing gay about exploring the insides of a smaller weaker man anon
Only faggots don’t fuck faggots
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Is mk677 worthwhile as a poor man's hgh? With such a huge price disparity I can't imagine its nearly as effective, but effective enough to bother with at all?
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>>50839468
No
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>tfw can sleep for 10-14 hours again after 3 hours/night of sleep on tren
I wish I could undo some of the choices regarding my social life I have done on tren but I must now live with the guilt I guess
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Can I use an injection pen for steroid use?

If not is there any instructional video you guys suggest to start pinning? I'm scared.
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>>50840114
i found that it didn't have much of an effect at all, minus the added sweating, since i do cardio everyday anyways - 600mg tren e

definitely felt its quickly tiring effects back then when i didn't do cardio and only lifted tho
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>>50837499
traps is a straight man's thing

real gay men don't want to fuck traps
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>>50841654
Why have I never thought of this point?
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tips on pooping on tren?
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>>50829668
so 25ga is like a surface street in a moderately dense suburb?
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how’s this for a cut:
>test P/tren A/mast P 50/50/50ED 1-15
>var 50mgED 10-15
im sure my glutes will hate me
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Do you guys buy into the theory of single cycles significantly altering your androgen receptors? That shit seems too good to be true to me, that you could just smash otu one cycle and have more receptive androgen receptors permanently as a result
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>>50829546
isn't joff natty?
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>>50842105
get a better diet
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why is ephedrine so hard to find in the EU/UK? checked literally every domestic source
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>>50841391
Bump
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>>50841391
>>50842209
no expert but seems like it wouldnt penetrate enough for IM injections. Some people do TRT injections subq but my personal anecdote for that is dont fucking do it.
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>>50841391
do you mean one like pic related? it's gonna be hella slow to inject oils through such a small needle, and anything more than 0,5ml is probably gonna give you PIP
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>>50842230
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>>50842191
bro shut the fuck up
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>>50842271
lardo
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NEW

>>50842321
>>50842321
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What does fit think about subcutaneous test implants?
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>>50842384
worked for me for a while, then after about 3 or 4 weeks every single site i had done broke out in a massive hive, they got better before my next injection so i thought fuck it it must have just been a reaction so i pinned again and every single site broke out again. then i grew some balls and pinned IM and it was really easy and smooth and I never looked back.
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>>50824505
Tried this and I was really hyped for less ai, less water, hornyness, veins, leaning up while bulking maybe.

The only reason this drug is useful is for body hair. It was an expensive and eseless waste of oil and I'm never running it again. It also trashed my lipids which are usually only borderline trashed on test or test/deca. Really is only useful for a few weeks as mast P precontest or something.



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