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If I don't have any acne or exzma problems whatsover but want get on tret purely for anti-aging, am I still going to purge? If so what sort of timeframe is it likely to last for?

Starting with 0.025% btw.
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>>17533994
you're going to shed dead skin and it will be noticeable so always use tret at night and always follow it up with a heavy moisturizer like cerave. my "purge" lasted about a month
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>>17533994
what are you, a generic invalid?
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My routine from the last thread.
Cleanser is the Round Lab Dokdo 1025 cleanser.
COSRX snail 96 mucin essence when I need the hydration.
Moisturizer is Laneige Cream Skin refiner.
Sunscreens are Beauty of Josen Relief Sun and Missha Soft Finish Sun Milk, which I use alternatingly.
Only active is Tretinoin .05%. And I'll use the Etude Soon Jung 2x Barrier Repair cream at nights after Tret.
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Can anyone rec me a collagen supplant? Ive heard mixed revies on them but they can overall help for anti-aging
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>>17534306
Collagen is snake oil
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>>17533994
Sounds retarded but can tret cause permanent acne on people who never had acne? And does everyone get a outbreak
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>>17534146
/thread
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>>17533994
I just started it and had no issue except one small spot of irritation (but no redness) and if you don't exfoliate semi-regularly the skin turnover is fast so you will be shedding like a snake. I just take a wet cloth in the shower and lightly scrub to break all the dead skin off and I'm fine. Tretinoin compound with a moisturizer and sunscreen during the day. Already seeing my finer lines disappear after a few weeks, hopefully my deep forehead line will alleviate a bit
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>>17533994
Is it ever worth it to go up till 0.1%? I started at 0.025% and over the last 3 months bumped up to 0.05%.
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I want to start using sunscreen daily. Is it really worth paying twice as much for one of the fancy moisturising suncreens or is ordinary sunscreen like this okay for daily use? I don't want to look any more pale (I'm already very pale, hence why I use sunscreen) and I don't want to look shiny like a sheet of polished stainless steel. I'm a guy btw.
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Is there any downsides to using retinoids?

https://youtu.be/Xxb6EIKpS3s
https://youtu.be/Vu7-FBgoZyY

Watched this guy's videos and want to start a proper skin routine (already have cerave cleanser/moisturizer). Basically all i need to add is retinoids and some form of sunscreen.

My friend took accutane (which is essentially concentrated retinoids) and it fucked his libido and he couldnt get a boner for 3 months. Are retinoids estrogenic at all?
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>>17534310
no it is not lol
>>17534306
vital proteins collagen peptides with vitamin c and hyaluronic acid. it's actually insane how great this shit is but its expensive and ideally you want take it twice a day so it will go fast
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>>17534967
>are retinoids estrogenic
no but the downsides are that our skin becomes extremely photosensitive so if you just use tret and go outside all willy-nilly than you're going to do more damage to your skin in the long run. tret at night, twice a week max, and use sunscreen all the time
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>>17534959
A quality sunscreen is probably the most important out of all your other skincare products. I have never had acne ever. But once when I was visiting a cousin and we were to go surfing together, I used some of his sunscreen and in a few hours my face was red and I had acne on my cheeks out of nowhere. Fuck that shit, took a week to completely go back to normal.
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>>17534959
I use the one from Beauty of Joseon. Not that expensive, but super hydrating and pretty cheap. It contains niacinamide though, i don't know if you r skin likes that
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>>17533994

Will this clear up psoriasis?
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Anyone know what I should use for picrel? I was thinking about using azelaic acid.
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>>17535656
Whoops
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>>17535393
Yes, it is. HA is good for skin products that go on your actual skin but eating it doesn't do anything. And free form collagen is just protein with extra steps. You can get the same thing from eating meat or drinking chicken broth and it's probably better for you. Your digestive system is dismantling it into aminos before it reaches your skin one way or another. Chugging collagen isn't going to make it migrate into your skin by osmosis that isn't how any of this shit works.

If you want to waste money it's your money just don't spread this misinformation.
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>>17535659
>>17535656
When in doubt the answer is always tret
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>>17535669
Should I start with 0.025 like OP? When do I increase concentration?
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>>17535686
You should only start with .025 yes. Plenty of people have written this up already but you only really need to increase concentration if you've reached 7x a week nightly treatments of .025 and been doing that for a few months with no unmanageable peeling/dryness/irritation. If you[re ordering online I'd just get like 6 tubes of .025 and by the 4th tube you'll probably know where things are headed. My guess is you'll eventually want to move up in strength for vanity reasons and not because your acne needs it.
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>>17535716
>if you've reached 7x a week nightly treatments of .025 and been doing that for a few months with no unmanageable peeling/dryness/irritation and the acne is still happening
fixed for clarity. I haven't had a pimple in years and I'm only on 0.025 but mine was never as bad as yours
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>>17534306
Pork rinds
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>>17534146
I started with 0.1% and noticed that, too.
I remember itching my face and a shitload of dead skin under my finger nail.
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>>17533994
>only with a prescription
life is suffering
people talk about legalizing weed, how about legalizing not having acne without going to the derm every 2 months
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>>17535659
Try curology. It's an easy way to try out a bunch of different things without having to deal with seeing a doctor.
Once you find out what works, you can cancel and get it yourself elsewhere.
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>>17535885
Same plus the dead skin would bunch up on my face while I apply other products. Had to scrub it away with a dry towel which would cause more dead skin to shed lmao. The purge period was insane but happy with the results.

How long you been at it with tret? Were you targeting a specific area on your face for acne or was it for general anti aging?
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I've been on 0.05% tret for about a month and its done jack shit, I've been peeling minimally, as in the day after its gone. I've been using it for acne, how long until I get skin like a babys ass?
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>>17536692
You'll have to use it for 3 months at the least to see differences but it's not magic. It can't fix shitty genetics.
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>>17535912
It's legal in India.
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>>17535659
damn man. Is this skin from your face?
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>>17534306
Bio Sil

Christie Brinkley uses it
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>>17535912
Weed is legal though and you can buy tret online without a prescription
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>>17534959
Just buy Japanese sunscreen. Its insanely better then American sunscreen. You can get a decent sized bottle of skin aqua uv moisture gel for $15 on Amazon. I would still probably wear a light moisturizer under it but if you have greasy skin you probably don't need one.
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>>17534967
Taking retinoids orally sucks balls, rubbing the cream on your face is fine and works great for anti aging and acne
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Just finshed epruis/isotrentonin aka oral retinoid a week ago. Looking online it says to use sunscreen with the treatment however the derm never mentioned this so I didn't use it and my face seems to be fine.
My current routine is just cleanser with a blue neutogena mositourizer once a day before bed
Do I need to exfoliate if im shaving every other day?
Would something like the odinary buffet show visiable imporvment or does it just slow aging?
I had a routine going because of the treatment that I want to continuie however I don't want to buy a bunch of shit that barely improves your skin
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>>17537539
Peptides are pretty decent, they will help fill in fine lines and wrinkles but the effects aren't permanent. Don't get buffet it feels nasty, get the ordinary Matrixyl 10% + HA instead, if you don't notice any difference after a bottle you can drop it. Also wear fucking sunscreen, get some skin aqua uv gel on amazon, it's light and doesn't feel greasy or oilly at all. If you want to exfoliate the Neutrogena skin perfecting daily liquid exfoliant for dry skin works pretty well and is mild. You just splash some on your face and then put your moisturizer on over it, or you could get the ordinary 10% lactic acid and use that 2x a week. But if you use acid exfoliators you need to wear sunscreen
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>>17537559
>HA
Moistourizer states it has HA, can you have too much of it or does it not matter
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>>17537580
>can you have too much ha
It doesn't matter unless you are one of the very rare people who think it irritates your skin. Its in 2/3s of the stuff i use everyday and its not an issue.
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For me it's tretinoin, jap moisturizer and jap sunscreen
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YO
What sort of 'baseline' affordable skincare routine/products would be worth my time? I only moisturise right now. I don't like the idea of being a rampant consumer, but if there is only one or two things I should do, I'd do it.
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>>17538096
Wash your face with cerave foaming face wash if you have oily skin, or Neutrogena hydroboost fragrance free foaming gell facial cleansernif you have normal or dry skin. Get a bottle of aveno or vanicream facial moisturizer, or just a bottle of cerave daily moisturizing lotion and use that as moisturizer. Basically any decent moisturizer is fine, i would be looking for one that is cheap, doesn't feel heavy and is unscented, aveno sheer moisture unscented lotion would probably be another good one.
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>>17535668
NTA but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAS9hz5_rSE
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>>17538096
>>17538380
If you live in Europe laroche posay might be more available as a drug store skin brand. Just their cleanser for normal skin and their standard facial moisturizer are another solid choice.
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Is there a template for skincare outside of the face?
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>>17538386
I live in burgerstan and I can buy laroche posay at duane reade, I don't know why everyone acts like it's some obscure high end fashion brand
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>>17538616
Yeah they sell it at target. I just wasn't sure if aveno or cerave is sold in Europe
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>>17538686
cerave the brand is in europe, but their best product (SA cream) is a bastardized version that uses urea and not SA
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>>17538615
Wash your skin with dove bar in the shower, i prefer unscented. Dry off gently will towel untill you are still slightly damp, slather on thin layer of Aveeno Tone + Texture Daily Renewing Body Lotion everywhere except on your dick for mild exfoliation. If you have body acne use some salicylic acid face wash on it in the shower maybe put some cerave SA lotion on it after the shower. If you have keratosis pilaris rub amlactin lotion on it when you get out of the shower. If you have eczema wash with cleansing oil in the shower and slap cerave eczema lotion or whatever other eczema lotion on it afterwards.
Regular soap sucks it drys out your skin a lot, scrubbing with a towel is also bad for your skin, if you need to exfoliate rub gently with a washcloth in the shower.
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any anons have a go to facial moisturizer that is unscented and contains no alcohol?
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>>17538700
funny that you mention dick because i was wondering if there was a safe way to whiten dick skin?
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>>17537120
Unfortunately yes
>>17535914
Just started my trial, thanks anon
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>>17539445
>Just started my trial, thanks anon
Just make sure to regularly talk with your consultant. They should ask you for a followup two weeks after you start it.
If you feel like it isn't working well, I'd suggest contacting them a week or two before your next shipment to change up your formula.
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>>17533994
anyone hear have deodorant recommendations?
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>>17539343
I use this instead of after shave. It works great.
It isn't unscented but it's scent is very light and pleasant.
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>>17539503
thanks bro, nivea is great stuff
I'll try it out
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If I still have acne at 21, should I still be waiting it out or should I do more about it? I've seen a (shitty) dermatologist and I'm on benzoyl peroxide (Onexton), but it only does so much. I think the next step up is Accutane, but that seems a bit extreme.
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Got this, COSRX snail 96 essence and paula's choice BHA exfoliant cheap today. Is it a bad idea to use the Korean toner before Paula's since there's overlap? My goals are even skin tone and enlarged pores.
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>>17539547
Maybe just try Tretinoin for a couple months first? You won't even need a derm to order it if you do it from India. Drink a lot of water and exercise too. Eat less oily food.
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>>17539343
I use Ponds Light Moisturizer in winter and Ponds light gel for summer. Cheap and works really for me. Is scented, but only lightly.
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>>17539388
why?
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>>17539604
aesthetics but mainly curiousity
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Ever since I started washing my face with a cleanser I started having dandruff on my eyebrows. I keep trying to specifically avoid that area but it's not that easy especially once I splash water on my face. Should I apply moisturizer over my eyebrows as well, or is there something else I can do? Shampoo them with anti-dandruff shampoo maybe?
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>>17539388
I'm not a doctor but in browsing online derma telemedicine sites they're pushing hydroquinone for "private areas" which I assume means anal and genital bleaching

don't come crying to me when your dick turns weird colors and gets zebra stripes
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Does the hydrolized collagen in my daily spf do anything notably good for my skin or is it just there?
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>>17539591
Don't use that miracle toner and Paulus choice bha exfoliant on the same day, that would be a lot of BHA. They are basically overlapping products so use up the miracle toner and then start using the paulas choice. And please wear sunscreen when using chemical exfoliation. You can get a bottle of skin aqua uv super gel for $15 on ebay or Amazon and its super lightweight, you won't feel like you have anything on your face, nothing like the greasy stuff you put on as a kid when you went to the beach.
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>>17539626
Radiant lite hyperpigmentation cream
Be careful start out 1x or 2x a week and increase slowly, stop if anything weird happens
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>>17539818
Wash your eybrows when you cleanse your face don't try to avoid them. Also yeah put moisturizer on the skin under them. If that doesn't work try and find a milder cleanser and look for something unscented, its possibe the one you are using might be causing some minor skin irritation.
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>>17539869
It doesn't hurt, it probably results in some temporary hydration and plumping of the skin but it's hard to say if it does anything more.
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>>17539888
thanks anon, i'm going to patch test the toner on another part of my body besides the face is there a generally agreed location?

currently i only put on lightweight korean sunscreen like joseon when i rarely go out after chems would you recommend i just put it on regardless (shits expensive)? i'm home most of the time with blackout curtains so no sunlight
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>>17533994
any adapalenebros here? 1.5 months in so far, feels good
got into it instead of tret because i wanted to start out with something less likely to cause irritation
negligible side effects (i moisturize twice a day), though i once accidentally got it around the creases of the nose which caused huge flaking
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>>17539906
I patch test on the inside of my forearm
Im supposed to tell you you have to wear sunscreen every day but its probably fine if you only put it on when you go out as long as you don't sit next to an old window with no uv filtering all day inside. Make sure to put it on at least 15 minutes before you go outside for maximum effectiveness.
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>>17539906
i'm full NEET shut in mode atm i feel like no sun for weeks has done wonders to my skin. other than missing out on vitamin d what's the downside for my skin?
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>>17539916
I throught adapalene was more harsh but maybe im misremembering. Any way if you are on .1% adapalene and its been going smoothly you should be totally fine switching to tret without major issues. Just don't go straight to .1% tret, start out at the lowest concentration and move up after a tube or two.
Or just stick with adapalene for a while, nothing wrong with it really except that tret can be stronger, iirc adapalene .1% is roughly equivalent to tret .025%
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>>17539934
No downsids, you should be wearing sunscreen every day when you go outside.
But consider talking a micronized vit d3 supplement so you don't get osteoporosis or something from vit d deficiency.
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after never using lip balm my upper lip is way darker than my lower, any recommendations on chemical treatments?
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>>17539946
Kojic acid, tranexamic acid, hydroquinone (don't start with this), azelaic acid.
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>>17539906
Oh i almost forgot, with the exfoliating toners i would start with using it every other day and give your skun a few weeks to get used to it. If you just dive in to daily your face might sting a little or be a bit dry or peely
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So do people in say Scotland (or other similar countries), where there’s just a few sunny days each year, have really good skin?
Doesn’t really seem like they do but on paper it seems like they should.
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>>17539971
No thry don't but that's more because of the rampant alcoholism and shitty genetics. Also your skin is still getting uva and uvb damage even if it's not bright and sunny out.
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>>17535668
>misinformation
Tbh anon I have zero information about how this shit reacts in the body. The biology of consuming collagen is completely to me. All I know is I bought vital proteins collagen peptides, take it twice a day, and my hair is thicker, my nails are stronger and grow at an insane rate, and my skin is observably softer, more flush, and more plump than when I don't take it. Reviews for this shit all over the internet reveal very similar experiences to my own. It works.
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>>17539971
I go to Scotland pretty regularly and you can tell who takes care of their skin there. White people who actually take are of and protect their fair skin have the nicest skin in the world hands down
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Is there significant uv exposure from indirect sunlight?
For instance I sit in a maintenance bay where the sun shines through a window in the evening and reflects off of the white floor.
I’m not getting hit by direct sun but I can certainly feel some light and heat coming from the reflection.
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>>17540230
It depends on the window and if it blocks UV and how reflective the floor is.
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>>17540260
Glass and plexiglas block UV-B rays but let UV-A through. Curtains or special window filters (unlikely anyone has them installed) help to block remaining UV-A rays.
>>17540230
Evening rays aren't as intense and heat comes via infrared rays which don't account for ageing. You're absolutely safe.
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How am I doing?
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>>17539602
will look into those
thanks anon
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>>17540679
Decent but I'd worry about that hair If I were you.
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>>17533994
what is best option for shaving for sensitive skin? wet shave is not an option
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Why does my face get red and burn when using products after I shave? I use a fresh blade and have tried using different kind of products before and after the shave.
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>>17541479
>wet shave is not an option
lol
Before shaving wash area with gentle cleanser, put on some aveno Calm + Restore Nourishing PHA Facial Exfoliator, leave it on for whatever the directions say, rinse it off. Then slap on a nice layer of Aveeno Therapeutic Shave Gel, shave with a decent quality fresh razorblade, the bic dual blades work fine, don't make excessive pasees, apply more shave gel if you need to.
Afterwards rinse clean again, optional, splash on a thin layer of some korean hydrating toner with cica in it like A'PIEU Madecassoside Fluid
Finally apply moisturizer to damp skin
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>>17541499
What products are you using? Aftee shaving your skin may be more sensitive or the products you apply may absorb more easily. Its possible something you are applying is causing some irritation. Avoid applying any alcohol or any fragranced products and consider changing your skincare routine so that say if you shave in the morning you apply the majority of your products at night or vice versa.
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>>17539547
I went through this exact same thing. I had bad acne throughout my teens and it was killing my social life. I decided i wanted to go through with accutane. My derm started me at 20mg once per day, we did this for 3 months. The 4th month we did 40mg, and the last two months 60mg. It was the best medical decision i have ever made. Acne was gone after one week even at the lowest dosage. It hasn't come back after 9 years. The side effects were minimal(nose bleeds, dry skin, a couple light headaches) all went away after getting off the drug and haven't returned.

If you are at the point where your acne makes you feel like you cant truly live because of how ugly it is, in my opinion, go for it.
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>>17541622
If you still have any acne scarring a few sessions of micro needleling with a derm with make a massive improvement, judt don't diy it or get it done by some beauty shop.
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>>17539916
adapalene didn't do shit to my occasional pimples, nor did tret. accutane was like a godsent to me the first time I used it
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>>17535788
Go on...
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>>17541196
I dont
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>>17541628
Are you sure you used it properly? You're supposed to spread it to your entire face and it takes months for it to work
Some people use it incorrectly as spot treatment for their breakouts, which naturally has little to no effect
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>>17534306
Use codeage, best one for the price
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Sorry if this ain't the place to ask, but can anyone recommend a good hand lotion? My hands get insanely dry in the morning for some reason, and I hate the idea of having old lady hands at like age 30.
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>>17543270
Had good luck with o'keefs working hands lately. They trick is that if you wash your hands frequently you want to reapply lotion while they are slightly damp, at least when it's practical to do so.
You can also get a tub of a thicker lotion, whatever you see at the drugstore and put a genrous application on at night before you go to bed. That helps a lot.
I find that just putting some lotion on my hands at night is enough keep them from getting dry and flaky.
If you wash your hands a lot or they are in really rough shape there is this stuff called gloves in a bottle that coats your skin in a thin layer of silicone that resists washing to some extent so they will stay protected.
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Are cleansers a meme? I splashed some warm water on my face in the morning today then wiped it off with a paper towel with light-moderate pressure. The paper towel physically removed all the oil easily. Skin felt the same as if I used my Cetaphil cleanser.
Just use a paper towel?
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>>17544031
most people do just water in the am then a cleanser in the pm after your face has been bombarded by filth all day. it’s so cheap why not
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Is there a decent all around routine for men? I don't know shit, I have retin a but haven't started using it
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>>17533994
w2c tret
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Started using the 5% granactive retinoid, except instead of following the 'couple of drops spread across fingers and then patted into face' I put like 5 drops over my face and just slather that shit on every night. Throw in a matcha clay pore mask, propolis anti-inflammatory mask and then a 10-12% lactic acid peel once a week and it's amazing.
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Any protips for large pores? It basically looks like blackheads but it's just regular skin pores filled with gunk.
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>>17544326
Pick a drugstore brand, laroche posay, cerave, aveno, Neutrogena hyroboost, whatever is easy to get where you go grocery shopping or whatever, buy face wash for normal skin, buy moisturizer for normal skin. Wash your face with face wash, put on moisturizer while your skin is still slightly damp.
If you want to use a retinoid use a slightly heavier moisturizer like a regular bottle of body lotion. Wash face, put on pea sized amount of retinoid on damp skin, wait a minute or two, put on moisturizer. I suggest doing it at night but whenever you normally shower is fine.
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>>17544553
ipl
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>>17544553
salicylic acid face wash
Cerave makes a few
Neutrogena make a Stubborn Texture™ Acne Cleanser for Textured Skin that would work great since it has a few acids in it
You can also use an oil based (not oil free) cleanser before you use your face wash. You use it on a dry face rub it in then wash it off with water and the oil will get into your pores and dissolve the gunk, easy to get on Amazon just search oil cleanser and get whichever is cheap.
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can creams with urea cause skin peeling?
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>>17544882
>Urea, also known as carbamide, is a keratolytic (peeling) agent used in some skin care products. Ingredients with keratolytic properties are used to soften and slough off the outer layer of dead skin cells.
So basically they can cause peeling because they help exfoliate old dead skin cells.
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>>17544882
>>17544923
Depends on the concentration. 5-10% urea is moisturizing. 20-30% is exfoliating and typically used for stubborn dead skin like heels and elbows. Don't use those on your face.
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>>17544927
Thanks
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>>17539591
I use this in combination with the ordinary niacinamide serum. Works amazing
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is there anything i can take orally that will just fix my skin? ive been taking biotin 10k mcg biotin almost daily for like a year. help an anon out
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>>17544923
>>17544927
i used some rough and bumpy cream on my foreskin and now i'm pretty sure my skin is peeling
amazing
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>>17539591
this toner is kino btw
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>>17545419
>>17545565
any issues when you first started using it?
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>>17545647
none. I've been using this for a year already. Really made my skin clear, lost those blackheads/whiteheads on my nose
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how should i treat red nose and area around it?
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>>17546571
Use a gentle facial cleaneser everyday, pat your face dry gently, no scrubbing, use a light moisturizer like cerave lotion.
If you are already doing those things wear sunscreen on it daily and stop drinking alcohol excessively.
Beyond that try a topical tranexamic acid cream at 10% or whatever is below prescription strength.
If that doesn't work go to a dermatologist for a diagnosis
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>>17546775
I started put cerave lotion before sleep, helping a bit, don't have much sun in my area and don't drink a lot. Will try tranexamic acid cream, thanks man. Do have any thoughts on also using toner like this >>17539591 if I have a bit blackheads on nose and whiteheads under lips?
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should i wear sunscreen if im brown? additionally, how can i fix wrinkled knuckles.
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>>17546848
>should i wear sunscreen if im brown
If you want to protect yourself from photo-ageing then yes.
>additionally, how can i fix wrinkled knuckles.
Use creams.
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>>17546929
Thanks, any recs?
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>>17546812
You can use that toner for sure, will help with blackheads, but you need to wear sunscreen if you use acid exfoliation like that toner. It makes your skin much more vulnerable to sun damage
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>>17546985
thanks man for helping out
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Would turmeric soap lighten my skin if I'm white or will it just make me look like I have jaundice? Assuming it actually works.
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>>17547922
Is tumeric soap supposed to lighten your skin? Just use azelaic acid or tranexamic acid.
Good molecules discoloration correcting serum will treat dark spots, uneven skintone light acne scarring etc without making you look weird
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>>17547924
Thanks for the quick answer.
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Anyone else feel like that beauty bliss tretinoin is bunk? Or at least underpowered. I may try to get it through my dermatologist again, her 0.025% felt as strong as the beauty bliss 0.1%
>>17534312
>does everyone get a outbreak
I never have and I've progressed from .025% to .1%
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>>17547941
Try curology if you don't feel like going to your derm, $20 a month as long as you don't let them upsell you their facewash and moisturizer and shit
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>>17547941
What are you judging by, skin irritation and peeling? There's a wide variation between tret products of the same nominal strength.

I only order from BB when my all day chemist orders get seized and I need something to tide me over but I've never noticed a difference in quality between it and the indian stuff, which makes sense, since BB probably gets it from the same place
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My routine is cleansing with LRP micropeeling gel, then moisturizing with LRP dermallegro moisturizer.
In the evening i do the same but also apply some LRP ultra concentrated serum which is basically just niacinamide/salisylic acid/lha, helps with blackheads and enlarged pores.
I'm aware i can get the same stuff cheaper but I like LRP.

I should probably start using some tret but i'm scared of the purge.
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>>17548031
Maybe it's because I only noticed (very slight) skin dryness when I started with dermatologist-prescribed 0.025% every other night, so at least I knew it was active. It definitely reduced dark spots on my face.
Since then I've bought 0.05% and 0.1% from beauty bliss, hopped straight into nightly application for both and had little noticeable effects, it just keeps my acne to a minimum. If I cycle off of one for a month and hop right back into nightly application I don't get a "purge" or dryness phase.
>>17548023
>curology
It appears that they don't sell pure tretinoin but I'll keep it in mind.
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>>17548097
Have you tried the 0.1 gel from beauty bliss? Not the micro, not the cream, just the gel. If that stuff doesn't make you peel, nothing will
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>>17548146
Ah I forgot that exists, that's the next step. When my 0.1% cream runs out I'll try the gel. Thanks bro
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>>17548097
>It appears that they don't sell pure tretinoin but I'll keep it in mind.
They will if you tell them what you want i think. Or you can just have them put in like .5% niacinimide. They do offer compounded formulas but im pretty sure they will just sell straight tret, they just want to offer value adds.
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I use differin gel from Amazon for $13 bucks a tube. I use it for facial eczema and it keeps me 99.9% clear. When I stop for a few days and I break out I use a prescription called fluticasone for two days and go right back on the differin. It really is a miracle cream.
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>>17533994
my country used to have both tret and adapalene OTC
first they made tret prescription only, then also adapalene for whatever god forsaken reason

now i have to use all sorts of shitty websites and sometimes deal with customs faggotry because dealing with dermatologists is even worse
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Anyone got any experience with treating seborrheic dermatitis on the face? Should I use a stronger or weaker cleanser? Moisturize the area or not?
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>>17549681
Buy nizoral shampoo, 2 to 3 times a week lather it on yoir scalp and the areas of your face that are flaring up.
You can also try using a benzoyl peroxide wash in the shower several times a week, lather and leave on your face for 5 minutes before rinsing it off, don't get it on your clothes or towels it will bleach them which is why its bet to use in the shower or standing in your bathroom right before you get in the shower.
Use a fairly standard daily cleanser and moisturizer. If you excessively dry out or strip your skin with harsh cleansers it can exacerbate symptoms.
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>>17549816
Oh leave the shampoo on for 5 minutes when you use it.
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How soon do you apply moisturizer after applying a serum like tretinoin?
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>>17550080
Within a minute or two, you want your skin to still be moist from whatever you put on.
Wash face, dry gently, put whatever shit on while your skin is still damp, put on moisturizer
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retard here i quit nicotine and now two weeks in i have a horrible acne even on my tummy
what do i do
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only time i really get pimples is after shaving, i usually find one or two really small ones, what do?
also my nose has lots of little blackheads/clogged pores (not really sure which, if they are blackheads they're not very large), is there anything i should do for that besides bha?
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>>17550214
This is incorrect advice. Your face needs to dry completely before you apply tretinoin. After washing your face wait for 15 minutes before using tretinoin, and it's fine if you don't use moisturizer after applying tretinoin. Just use it in the morning after you wash your face.
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does face massage like kobido works, or does it just speeds up the face-aging
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>>17539503
Same here. Just works.
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i'm a guy and i sometimes watch youtube skincare tutorials for women is there any caveats or advice that doesn't apply to males?
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>>17539916
>any adapalenebros here
yep. Whats wrong with adapalen, why should I hop on tret? I currently only have a prescription for adapalen
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>>17540437
>Glass and plexiglas block UV-B rays but let UV-A through.
are you telling me that sitting inside your room with some minor light coming from outside damages my skin? SHould I truly embrace the neetdom and just shut it tight, letting on my face only the glow of the screen?
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>>17550790
Not really.
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>>17550962
>why should I hop on tret?
Tret is stronger, in clinical trials .1% adapalene has similar results to .025% tret and there are stronger concentrations of tret available.
That said if what you are doing now works then i guess it's fine. But if you are already getting a prescription and getting tret isn't significantly more expensive you might as well switch and then try to increase the concentration over time
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>>17550967
There is a picture that gets circulated online of some older woman whos desk in her office was next to a window for 40 years, the side of her face that was next to the window looks like a rotten grapefruit.
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>>17550566
bump
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protip, buy some 4%-5% benzoyl peroxide face wash, in the shower wash your armpits with your regular body wash or whatever you use, then lather with the benzoyl peroxide wash and leave it on for a couple minutes while uou are doing the rest of your shower routine. Shit absolutely annihilates your smelly underarm bacteria.
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>>17550382
>This is incorrect advice. Your face needs to dry completely before you apply tretinoin
Why? Letting it dry first is just going to decrease absorption slightly
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Thoughts on retinol for your penis?
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>>17551467
Bitches love it wha ya dickskin be peelin and flakin off
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guys guys guys... I've come to big realization recently what is wrong with my head exterior.

any anon.. any anon help me.. help
my skin is so terrible... should I go to a cosmetic dermatologist? or are they a scam? I don't know what treatment to get.

aaah someone help me fucking help help. I think my face is discolered, and I have deep acne ice pick scars and my mouth skin area is just absolutely repulsive.

I used to pick my skin open badly for over a decade and pull out my hair (don't do this anymore really)
I'll lurk this thread I want to learn more about skincare if there's still hope for me. Never been on this board.
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>>17551771
See a real dermatologist and don't sperg out while you do.
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>>17551916
alright Ill try see a real one once I'm out of the loony bin, I hope soon. why shouldn't I go to a cosmetic one? I don't want to waste the real dermatologist time since my unfortunate face is just cancer just. Should I post my skin? I mean post of a random person that isn't me?
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>>17551931
First ensure your skin is actually salvageable in terms of health before you worry about aesthetics. So yes, a dermatologist.
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>>17551941
llook how terrible, outside in daylight it looks worse
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>>17551332
I've read that tretinoin becomes less effective when it absorbs water
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>>17551771
See a dermatologist, professional microneedling treatments can work absolute miracles on acne scars and discoloration
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I bought a vitamin C oil serum and a retinol oil serum but the moment I pump it into my hands it soaks into them before I have time to apply it to my face. What can I do other than coating my hands in vaseline?
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My back his looked like this since maybe late 2010. It has been a never ending cycle of a few new white heads and red bumps every day that turn into scars and take months to fade. Even though the scars do fade, they're always being replaced by new ones daily. I shower daily, use antibacterial soap on my back, use an exfoliating wash cloth a few times a week, wear clean shirts during the day and to bed, eat relatively clean, don't drink soda or consume much sugar, and only drink water other than a coffee in the morning. I've tried different soaps, lotions, laundry detergents, etc, but nothing makes much of a difference. Has anyone here had any success in curing bad bacne with any specific otc things or life changes that I maybe haven't tried? I just want to have normal skin on my back and be comfortable without a shirt on for the first time in 13+ years.
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>>17552487
thanks thanks thanks. I wasn't sure if I needed to go now I know. thank you anon. in different pictures my face doesn't look so terribly bad but when outside or bad lightning looks awful.
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>>17552488
Put lotion on your hands first, wait a few minutes for it to soak in.
Or you can pump it directly on to your face and then just use a single finger to spread it out on your face
I usually pump serums into my cupped palm and then use two fingers on my other hand to dip in and then spread it on my face.
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>>17552510
>use antibacterial soap on my back
Shit sucks don't use it, switch to using dove bar as your soap in the shower. Use some body or face acne wash containing salicylic acid on your back. You can also find some salicylic acid lotions you could put on there instead
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>>17552603
Thanks anon for the actionable advice, I will try that next time.



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